Joe Rogan - Comedians Should Stop Doing Late Night Talk Shows

Idians were I thought it was like people who go on tonight show and they had their sleeves rolled up you know ever known us Here's a crazy thing folks. Yeah that I enjoyed watching that but it never seemed like me I couldn't I couldn't see myself doing oh, it's people gotta stop doing that They gotta stop doing it like like why are you doing a your tonight show set and you? Cobert's not even They block it's so fucking disrespectful. They block shoot These things we like like it's they'll do like ten comedians at a time And he's not even there and they'd like throw to it as if you know like he's it It's the rudest thing I've ever heard and the fact that comedians Still go on the show and would still do it is insane of it. Wow. I didn't know that's it That's insane of it. So how many they do in a row? I heard like ten I could get the number up, but he's not there It's not you know, you're just doing like this show in front of this audience in the studio And he pretends to throw to you and you know see you like you there and it's like this thing That's like it. There's nothing here. No, well, it's again man Like but it's on it's on us as much as it's like, you know, of course they're gonna do that They're gonna do that to any you know, any Genre of entertainment that would allow such a thing to happen. They will do it to you right, you know, they're not gonna do Rihanna's doing a These these things are so contrived Like it's the same set you come out in front of same curtain people put on the same outfit that they didn't wear yesterday and would never wear again tomorrow and they come out and they pretend to be a comedian from 1993 And who the fuck are you who the fuck are you what are you fucking doing? For a set to get passed around to a couple of agents that want to come see you that you Yes, I was talking to Theo Vaughn about this we were talking We're talking about like whether it's worth it being on one of those shows. No, no, it's never It's never worth it capturing yourself not as yourself. It's a waste of your time Used to be worth something. This is why it's confusing because there was no venues before so when Johnny Carson would have you on the Tonight Show Yeah, no and that was a listen. Yeah, it served its purpose. It was very important at the time It was an outlet where there weren't a lot of outlets and now Those times are we doing? Yeah, especially unless it's like, you know what that said, you know, Kim will Build he built like a club like and has like the audience travel from the studio to the club and the comedians would do it And it's like oh that's like an effort, you know to me like an effort to create like a space Yeah, it was like a space a separate studio that like, you know, I believe they're still doing I don't know if I've seen like a camel set Sand upset recently, but but but there was like an effort, you know I always really appreciated that about like like Kimmel like You know At least try like I don't know just try there are too many options for comedians to Go through this same filter of capturing themselves In a way that's not authentic to them So you're saying that if I go on Colbert I should do it with my shirt off if you want Purpose you know to me like like you should you should do it like you would do a regular set in the belly room Yeah Well, I mean because it's like You know if stand-up is art Right if it's it's art if it is an art form Then it's supposed to be like the medium is supposed to come to the artist unique to not the other way around right You know even even on those same shows, you know If you see a live music performance like the staging is different It's specific to the audience You know in the context of a show and a live production and you have this space They fill it in the way that makes sense to the artist. Yeah, and then it's like I Think you could just go through a slideshow just the exact same thing, you know Well, I guess when a musical artist gets on Colbert one of those shows They're already kind of famous right there already have an album out and when a stand-up gets on those shows They're trying to get seen like maybe you don't have a special yet Maybe you're just you showcased and they picked a few people you've done any of it. I don't do any of those A specific reason yeah, I Never liked it. I remember once I'm like I I was gonna do letterman while letterman was on letterman and I remember sending a Set in or whatever and they responded like okay, you know, we could do it but could He do his jokes in a more traditional setup punchline format and I remember just like emailing back I'll just do it when I'm famous When I'm just not gonna listen to this bullshit note people they change that's the other thing they change it So again, compare yourself to a musician imagine you're a musician going on and I like we like this song But could the bridge come first right and then you do that you would be like go fuck yourself, right? You know like and they comedians allow like you can't say pop tart if you say pop yeah, exactly comedians allow a lot of shit Say pastry. Can you say pastry? That doesn't make any sense. Well, we just trying to hit the road. You're right toast is brutal I wouldn't do it even back in the day. It didn't make any sense to me There would go you should put together a five-minute set for the tonight show and I'd be like I Don't want to do it and they're like you should do it like it's it's good exposure This is like the fucking 90s right when it actually probably meant something. I was like, I don't I don't see it happening I'm not doing hey It's it's not stand-up. You're you're you're taking a little piece of it stand up A short set is 15 minutes and in 15 minutes. I might cover two concepts, you know, yeah, I need time Yeah, I go over things like I get thorough if I'm talking about a subject I get involved in that subject I want to I want to bring people on a journey and I also want to be able to set them up I want to be able to explain how I think about things so that by the time I get to something controversial They already have a sense of how I approach things You can't do that in five minutes in five minutes. You just gotta just get into it. Yeah, and it's it's a very condensed Homogenized version of who you really are man. Just do just do a late-night spot with a five-minute setup then leave Just a setup. Yeah, just to set up a shake. Yeah, I remember I saw Louie do one Louie CK did one one of those Letterman or tonight show or something like that and I was like god like he shouldn't even do this It's not it's such a not a good representation of what he's capable of well, some people are like Jerry Seinfeld should do yeah that he could absolutely do that. Yeah, he could do any he does I love Jerry's uh like tonight show sets. Yeah, and his like what I like his makes sense Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense It's like perfect for and it's like it translates very very well But when I watch those shows today, I'm like, why are they still a thing when I see a late-night show and no disrespect Anybody hosts a late-night show but to me it's like it's like they took a boat and try to turn into a plane Oh Like hey 2018 but let's pretend it's not yeah, we'll be right back with a commercial. Hey, we're gonna have commercials Commercials and things but today everybody watches HBO and Netflix like what am I doing here? Sit into a fucking commercial? I get I'm It may be weird like cuz I actually I enjoy advertising Do you do? Yeah, yeah, like a lot. I'll stare at like Billboards I watch commercials watch like oh cuz I do think it it speaks to what Like America thinks we are Mmm as a culture right? You know me like speaks to what they think Is appealing and what they think is gonna work and so in a sense It's like like in a way in the same sense Like you can gauge a lot from a person by the types of questions they ask you You know, I engage a lot from like even a climate by the type of commercials what they feel is Because they're trying to appeal to everybody. So this is what they're saying. This is what we think everybody is thinking right now yeah, you know or how everyone feels or what they want and But I love like I'll watch it and even like the Tonight Show and those um These things I mean, but you know anything in function at its best is fun. It's just you know The where it hits a wall and it's what we're saying about Comedy and what we're saying about a lot of things is like when a thing tries to be something that it's not right You know when it feels like they're just these late night shows when they're just doing fun things that they think are fun and interesting You know Kimmel always every year does like the parents that tell the kids that know Halloween that they ate all the Halloween candy Yeah, and the kids reactions and stuff like I eat that stuff up. I love that But but like when it you know when shows pretend to be you know 1989 It's just like when comedians pretend to be of a different era pretend to It just feels false, and I think that's where you check out yeah, it's just unnecessary at this point. You know Because the internet you you just have too many other venues. Yeah, well you it's a lot of options Yeah, a lot of options yeah, and the vent like watching things the internet is so much more satisfying It's like watching a comic on a podcast you're gonna get a chance to see who the fuck they really are yeah instead of Some weird set in front of some audience that got shipped in from Burbank, and they got applause signs and everything It's very surreal when you go to a live taping and you watch that. It's really surreal. Oh, it's very like And I'll sit it. I I have like you know it's always we have weird late night think cuz I Like I'm bad at being like the you know celebrity type of thing like I'm just in it and just like looking at it and when the crowd is giving an unnatural reaction To things is just like what do you right you're too introspective. You're not gonna. Just dive in. Yeah, I'm like hey no, but hey, bro What are we doing? For real is this what is this like what do you is this rewarding for you? I Pause side everybody What are we doing? Thank you, we'll be right back that we'll be right back shit. It's like yeah, is that yeah, where you going you promise they put Those commercials in later, let's just keep rolling We do it right back