Jerrod Carmichael Doesn't Believe in the Moon Landing - Joe Rogan Experience

Well, she was about to be an intern working at NASA. Oh. Look, here it is. Everyone shut the fuck up. I got accepted for a NASA internship. And look, he writes language. She says, suck my dick and balls. I'm working at NASA. And he says that I'm on the National Space Council that oversees NASA. Oh, that's hilarious. Oh, how dear. That's so dear, you Homer Hickman. First of all, that shit is funny. Suck my dick and balls. Second of all, look at this. And it's a girl. Second of all, we didn't even go to the fucking moon. You don't think we went to the moon. I saw you talking about that. Yeah, no, I don't. Look, I could be convinced. I was convinced that we didn't for a long time. Now I'm convinced I have no fucking idea. Yeah, I don't really. I don't think we went to the moon. What makes you think that? Just off of base. It's not rooted in science. How much have you really paid attention to it? Because I went down the rabbit hole for many, many years. I go off kind of like it's always like the social kind of where there's smoke, there's fire type clues of just like us being in a race and no countries coming second. Right. Other space programs not catching up to 1969. 1969, 1972. American technology. Right. You know what I mean? Like every time we went was under the Nixon administration. That's a good one. These types of little things that just make you go out probably like a flat earth there, but it was just like, watch the press conference. You ever watched the press conference when they returned from the moon? No, wait. What's the what's the clue? What's the clue in there? Or what's the suspicious thing? They look super depressed. They look super deceptive. They look fidgety. Yeah. And they're talking weird and they're saying shit. They refute later. One of the things they said, Michael Collins, who's actually never. He's supposed to be in. He never landed on the surface of the moon. Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong did. He stayed up in the orbiter and they were they're asking about stars. And he said, I don't recall seeing any stars. And then years later, he wrote in his book about how magnificent the stars looked. There's a lot of that shit. But the press conference, if you want, this doesn't mean anything. I'm not a cop. But if I was a cop and I was interviewing them, I'd be like, these motherfuckers are guilty. Something is wrong here. Like they they seem like guilty people. And you could look, you could say, hey, man, they were probably psychologically distressed. They were probably dealing with the the pressure of having come back from the moon and all this fame that they had never experienced their whole life. They're they're astronauts. They're scientists. And now all of a sudden they're standing in front of all these people and everyone's asking them questions and they feel super nervous. But like, nah, these niggas was lying. Let me tell you, everybody. My favorite thing is when you win because I'll say it very casually and people become like, you know, patriots and rocket scientists want to tell you like how we went. I'm like, you don't know either. Well, all this we shit is bullshit because it wasn't you and it wasn't me. Yeah. Let's stop. Also, we probably lied about it and we lie better than any other country on Earth. And I'm proud of that. There's a lot of weird shit with the video footage. There's a lot of footage where it looks like their own wires. So they're like dangling from wires and they bounce back up from their feet in this weird way. It looks like they're being yanked up from the ground. There's a video where there looks like they're on trampolines. If you Google astronauts on trampolines. No, I'm not even kidding. It just looks like they're. I actually put it up. It's a video that I found. Google astronauts on trampolines is a video on YouTube and you're watching them bounce around. You're like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You guys are on the fucking moon and you're hiding behind the lunar module. Like you can't see their feet. You can't see how they're doing this. But it looks like either they're bouncing on something or they're being yanked up in the air or it's one sixth gravity and it just has a weird effect on people. Well, look at this. Watch this. Like how strange is this? See look, he just lands. But doesn't that mean even the way he's he's moving, it's like he's being dangled. It's very strange. Yeah, I see him bouncing around. But that also could just all the stuff we did at the we like playing golf and bouncing around like the moon landing set was built by the people who made discovery zone. But it also could be like slides. He fell. Boom. He just jumped up and fell. That's so strange. But it also could be this is just what your body does at one sixth Earth gravity. You know, there's a whole bunch. I don't know. You know, I'm excited to see this one's weird. Someone else going back to the moon and then if it matches. This is from a movie. I forget what was the name of the movie was. But you could watch some of the go. They show some special effects. They use in movies. But watch some of the weird shit go a little bit further ahead of this. Yeah, right there. There's some of the weird stuff where you see these guys like fall down and then it looks like they just get yanked back up by wires. It's very strange. But the press conference is strange. Yeah, it's the social aspect of it because it's like I won't begin to know like how the flag is supposed to look in the waving and the shadows and the thing that like a lot of people argue about. I it's just the political. And so it's like I kind of think I know when the government is lying about something. You know what I mean? Like the history is there. Watch this. Watch this. Watch that guy stand back up. Watch this. Like he got yanked up. There's a bunch of those. There's a bunch of those. It makes it look like they're on wires and pulled back up to their feet. Very strange. But again, have you ever been in one six earth gravity? I haven't. I don't know what that maybe maybe it just looks fake because when you're in one six earth gravity, that's just how movement. Yeah. Do you think we never ever been like a pent up? I my my my conspiracy belief is specific to thinking that a man has walked around on the surface of the specific to that crashing, you know, lunar, whatever. That's all 100 percent. Yeah, of course. It's specifically man moving. Did he get out and go like this? Yeah, it's specifically that. I don't think anybody has ever done this. I don't think so. No. In life. Like Evan. I don't think I'm with the only country that would have. But I think there is a press conference, some clips, weird clips from the press conference because the press conference to trip you out and see and see just like other, you know, countries who have the means to do it like they're in intention about going. Yeah. Play some this, play some this and go big screen. Michael Collins. Look how sad these guys look so weird. Watch this. It was our pleasure to have participated in one great adventure. It's an adventure that took place not just in the month of July, but rather one that took place in the last decade. We all here and the people listening in today had the opportunity to share that adventure over its developing and unfolding in the past months and years. It's our privilege today to share with you some of the details of that final month of July that was certainly the highlight for the three of us of that decade. They just went to the moon and they all looked like they just saw their dad naked. That's only part of it. They all look like they lying. You tell them, Neil. It looks so fake, but again, that could be just extreme nerves. It could be people that don't know how to handle being in front of press. It could be introverts that are forced on the camera. It could be a lot of issues. If you went to the moon and then you came back and you were sitting at a press conference, would you be at the light? What would your actions be? Would you be like, yeah, or would you be more light, like certain? It would look like a Lakers press conference after they won. Just like, lead back, I have my hat on. Some champagne. Just pointing to reporters. Why did they bring back like a rock or something? They did. They brought it back a lot. They brought back many rocks, but some of them turned out to be petrified wood. They gave one of them to the prime minister. They gave a moon rock in 69 or 70. It's the prime minister of Holland, whoever it was, whoever the person runs Holland. Years later, they analyzed it and it was petrified wood. It was not a moon rock. In fairness, I do get the like, by the time we got to Holland, the gift basket is going to change. We're not giving away the real moon rocks to Holland. England gets a real moon rock. France gets a man. France gets a moon rock. They get a moon rock. They gave us a statue. Just go find some rocks. You got some fucking dude's rocks. What did you think about this Mars mission? Look, that's all real. Rovers are real. The technology is proven and legitimate. I don't think you could ever fake anything today. Like you could fake things in 1969. I think if anything, for sure what they did is, it's been proven that they faked some footage. For sure some photographs. You know NASA recorded over the original... Again, those little things, it's like you recorded over the original... In a world where even the importance of syndication was known. I think they also lost the telemetry data, which is like the binary hard ones and zeros that show the distance between the Earth and Lunar Module at every step of the trip. They lost it? Yeah, they lost that shit. But then again, you got to realize, people die and people are responsible for storage and no one's paying attention. And there's funding and the funding gets pulled. There's plausible reasons for some of the fuckers. I mean, there are episodes of Blossom being guarded in a vault somewhere in Burbank. Episodes of Blossom, bro. Right, but you could get fucking money off of Blossom. You can't make any money off of these goddamn moon landing clips. Look, there's some people that absolutely are convinced that we didn't go and I used to be one of them. And I would love if they proved that it was fake. It would make me more happy than anything else in the world. You know what? Oh, it would make me very happy. The thing that keeps me holding on to maybe we went is I toured NASA once and they were nice. Wow, that's probably it then. I was like, yeah, they were nice. But you got to realize those aren't the same people. You know, when people say like, NASA lies. Okay, but those were NASA from 1969. These are different humans. Yeah. You know, we were talking about 48 fucking years ago. These are completely different human beings. They stand on the backs of liars. Yeah. Well, there was a stop inviting us to NASA so we can let us ask questions if you're gonna fucking lie. What? That's what you say about the tour. I'm like, stop inviting us to NASA and allowing us to ask questions if you're gonna lie. I don't think they're lying. I don't think they're involved. If there was a conspiracy, like say if they did fake the moon landing, no one today who's alive was a part of that. Except Buzz Aldrin. He's the only one still alive. But he did something. Did he punch the dude in the face? Yeah, he punched some guy. What did he say? Bart Seabroell. Bart Seabroell made a move. I had dinner with him. Oh, with the guy he punched? With Bart Seabroell. Yeah, yeah, dinner with him many years ago. And back when I was a full blown moon non-believer. Uh-huh. And, you know, I contacted him, got a hold of him, took him to dinner and just asked a bunch of questions. I like that you use your celebrity for good. I love it for good, but it was for my own curiosity. No, but just like these real specific pockets of like people that you just want to talk to, it's like, yeah, let me talk to them. Well, I wanted to sniff them out. You know, you could see someone doing interviews. You could see someone in an edited format and you kind of get a sense of who they are. You don't really get a sense of who they are until you actually talk to them. Like you and him sharing a plate of pasta. What was his, what, like, what did he give you anything that's like gives context to like that? Or like just like why did it, uh, he was convinced. He was absolutely convinced that it was a hoax. And he, what he was convinced was that there was a space race between us and Russia and that it was, uh, it was essentially a militarized space race. And what they were trying to do is prove military superiority. If you had the rockets that could get you to the moon, your technology was superior. Yeah. And the way he framed it is like the United States had control over what was aired. Um, they put it on television and no one foresaw the future. No one foresaw that one day you would be looking at these clips on YouTube and analyzing them and putting them in slow mo. They didn't even think that that was going to be a thing. Oh, it was going to be a show on television. And that would be it. Yeah. And they were going to show it black and white and they were going to have it 3d projected so that you would project it on a screen. And then people who were filming it would have to film the screen. Like they didn't even get a live feed when it was airing on television. It was airing people filming the screen that it was being projected on. So what? Yeah. Yeah. They broke it down. So it looked more and more, uh, grainy and fake. Like they, if you were trying to do something that was not done to the technology of the day, that would possibly obscure some fraud, they did it all those ways. There's so many things that they did that you would go. It's in terms of like conspiracies. It's a conspiracy theorist wet dream because if it is a fake, it's the biggest fake of all time. And there's so many things that are squirrely about it. There's so many things. Doesn't mean it's fake. Yeah. But there's so many things. Has anybody been to the moon? No, no one's been to the moon since 1969 to 1972. Those are the only trips. They did seven attempts, six of them successful. Apollo 13 was the one that wasn't successful. That was that big movie. Um, they landed on the moon and then came back seven times. It's 262,000 miles away. Now here's where it gets crazy or plus or minus, depending on where the moon's at. What's crazy is 262,000 miles is pretty far. Um, what's crazy is, wait, wait, no, no, no, my bad. I'm thinking about, oh, that's three zeros. Cause I was like, what map are you seeing? Oh man. Interesting is that no other human space mission where a human's been a part of it since then has ever gone more than 400 miles from the earth's surface. Is that where the space station is? All the space shuttle missions, everything. I thought it was further than 400 miles. So the guy you had dinner with did what for Buzz Aldrin to sock him? He told Buzz Aldrin he was a liar. He said, you're a liar and a crook and Buzz went, Bwah, bitch. Yeah, popped him right in the jaw. Anything happened after, does anyone contact him after that? I mean, I'd imagine. I don't know. I don't know what he's doing these days. I think he's a Uber driver now. I mean, immediately after the punch. No, no, no. The guy Bart Seabro. But I mean, immediately after the punch, is there any type of like... I think he tried to press charges and the cops told him to go fuck off. I think it was one of those things. It wasn't the best punch either. I mean, if you go to the hospital from that punch, Buzz was like in his 80s at the time. Damn. But he tried, he followed, he harassed a lot of those guys. He harassed a lot of the astronauts and tried to get them to swear on Bibles. He'd bring a Bible and say swear in his Bible that you went on the moon. Yeah, I mean, it was... There was a lot of weird shit. There's another one that's a 25th anniversary of the Apollo moon missions. He gives a speech at the White House in front of this group of honor roll students, like some of the best students in the country. And Neil Armstrong gives this real weird fucking speech. It's like, we have here amongst us... You want to hear it? Find Neil Armstrong's cryptic speech. What makes it weird? When you see it, you'll get it. It's just real... It doesn't mean we didn't go to the moon. It doesn't mean that. By the way, it's fucking weird. It's really funny because I presented it as like, yeah, I don't think we went and... And I didn't even have half of what you give. Oh, I'll give you way more. There's a lot. Watch this. You're going to watch this. ...public appearance and held back tears as he spoke these brief cryptic remarks... This is from a funny thing happened on the way to the moon, Bart Seabro's movie. ...as they toured the White House. But this is a real thing that happened. Today we have with us a group of students among America's best. To you, we say, we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered. Breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of Truth's protective layers. What? He is. The fuck... Okay, well, two things. Does that mean...? A little unfair to it is when you add that fucking Wonka music to anything, everything sounds incredibly creepy. Yes, true. But it does sound like... One of Truth's protective layers? He's trying to tell you something. Yeah, that's it. I mean, you can't get more cryptic. Yeah. And you also can't get more exciting if you were a conspiracy theorist. It almost kind of sounds like he's like, and to the child who actually figures out how to go to the fucking moon. There are great breakthroughs for those who can remove one of Truth's protective layers. What would you rather? The moon confession or the R. Kelly confession? If you had to pick one. R. Kelly made a song. It's your song, it did. I need that moon confession, bro. Yeah. I need that moon confession. The R. Kelly... I don't need that confession. I'm good. Yeah, no, we don't. I got it. That's up to the wall now. I think the law is going to have a piece of that. R. Kelly seems to be pretty Teflon, but the moon confession would be fascinating. I would be excited. Or a moon... I don't know, I guess it's not on them to prove that they went. Just some type of way. Why lie? Well, 1969, it's a different world. Nixon's president. I don't know if they did lie. I don't know. I used to think I knew. I do not think I know. I mean, it's foolish. I don't know jack shit about astrophysics. But I know if there was a lie... If there's any president we would guess would be down. It'd be Trump. He'd tell us about it. Well, no, I'm saying... I'm saying Nixon just like... It is a perfect storm of the time. Oh, yeah. That's Nixon. Oh, he's the most deceptive president of all time, except the current one. Yeah. It's very interesting. I've shut down a lot of barbecues. With that? Just talking about... Just bring it up like I think it went... Well, how about now you have more information? And by the way, this is a fraction of the shit that I've... Dude, I did research for years. I debated a scientist on Penn Gillette's radio show about it. How'd it go? Pretty good for me. Even though I don't even agree with some of the shit that I said back then. Where does that argument end on just the agree to disagree? It was a time constraint. I would do it far differently now. I think far differently now that I did that. I would not take this I know we didn't do it approach. Because I don't know we didn't do it. Yeah, no. And that's the thing. I very casually go, probably not. Yeah. But it just... The things that don't add up to me don't add up in a way that just makes me go, yeah. Do you know about the Van Allen radiation belts? You know about all that? Not enough to like... There's a belt of radiation. Like a donut shaped belt of radiation. From just years of... No, no, no. It just naturally surrounds the earth. Oh, you know what I'm thinking about? I'm thinking about the... Never mind. I'm thinking about the belt from years of like satellites and stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's that shit too. There wasn't much of that in 1969. What about it? The Van Allen radiation belts is an intense band of radiation for miles that surrounds the earth that you would have to go through to get to the moon. So they apparently though there's a hole that you could go through in the top where the radiation belt isn't there. But the idea is that there was no shielding to protect them from radiation. They just were in this aluminum tin can. You ever touch a lunar module like they have? There was a science exhibit I went to once that had a replica of the lunar module and you could put your hands on it. And it's like, whoa, this thing is made out of coke cans. It's like it's so sk... It's so nothing. I want to show you. It's so weird looking. There's also like photographs that are fucking wonky lights that go at two different angles. They say, well, that's possible due to uneven terrain and things reflecting off of things, all these different variables.