Joe Rogan & Candace Owens Discuss Religion

I think that's so bizarre to me is that we're sitting here and we're talking about the age like as if guns were just created Like you know when in reality right, but something's wrong, but what's wrong? It's not the guns. I'm asking you What do you think is wrong mental health right? So I say I I agree with you But I think it's the duration of culture altogether Yeah They used to be taught the Bible in school like you know people people make fun of that now like now We've got this culture where you're making fun of kids like Religion is like we're so far away from religion like that's like weird to us like you know like teaching religion is like It's you've got like a scarlet letter if you come in as like a holy Christian kid and like a normal public Public education thing you've got the family structure where it's like these kids are running the houses these days like I look on Like Facebook, and it's like supposed to be funny when like a four-year-old is acting like Cardi B I'm like okay. Yes, it's funny cuz she's four, but it's also like not funny cuz she's four right like How do you feel about little Tay who's a little Tay? You don't know who little I love card You know a little Tay is his little Tay little Tay is kind of out of the news now because they found that it's a hustle She's a nine-year-old Asian girl from what Vancouver is that what's from and she talks mad shit throws money around calls everybody bitches and haters Yeah, that's my point like this is considered like funny It's like entertaining like the fact that and and we're okay with that and so Parents are pushing their kids to be more outrageous because there's a way that they can make it so to me It's like a little Tay spotted hanging out with Rick Rubin. It's like it's not over. It's not over yet It's not over Rick Rubin. Oh, she looks look. She's uh like how old is she she's got double fingers Oh, those are hooks you should get the horns up and she's got a g-wagon in front. It's just like the cash me outside Girl, yep, right. Yeah, so we don't talk about any of that We don't talk about the fact that that we no longer focus on family No longer focus on religion doesn't need to be doesn't mean to be that everyone needs to be religious But there's structure in religion right there structure in me when I grew up and my grandpa used to make us read the Bible around The table there was some structure to that and lessons and and prayers that and then there's this Mass the Facebook the snap the snapping the the Instagram the Twitter It's like we've changed the world and expected children to say and stay the same of it and nobody talks about it So instead they say it's the guns fault. We need to be stricter gun gun legislation, but the entire world has shifted We're not talking about those changes the dynamic of the world that has shifted. So I I just hold a different position You know, I think it starts with family. It starts with structure. I think we need we need religion back I think that that needs to stop being such a dirty world needs to stop being mocked roundly by the media Like it shouldn't be funny, you know when Joy Behar, you know says something about Jesus and the whole Audience giggles that's weird. She says something Mike Pence being mentally ill. Yeah, because he talks to Jesus That's think about how weird that is Right Like how weird that the stuff that we used to would be normal like, you know praying talking to Jesus like when I grew up That was like my grandparents generation. That was everyone was religious and now we're so far away from that Right that that that seems like like it's okay to mock and we roundly mock it all the time So these the structure in the home is in my opinion the most important thing that needs to change the fact that so many people Are growing up without fathers in the home is something that needs to change Letting your kid have a Facebook account when they're seven, right? Like just it's just too much It's the information age. But what information are they downloading? Well, I definitely think that people need structure I definitely think that people need family and community and all those good things But when it comes to religions like which one is right? I thought all of them It's not about being what about yeah, it doesn't sound out. No, like there's not I'm gonna be honest I know nothing about Scientology. So I'm not I know that people hate Scientology. That's all I know about it Created by a science fiction writer. Okay, and it's all nonsense. Right? That's all you need to know. Okay. Yeah So it's one of the dumbest religions of all time. If you read like what they are What they're all about Leah Remini who was in it for you. Yeah, I didn't watch her series She'd been on my podcast and she explained her journey into it and what happened with it And when she started to question it and there's a whole thing there's a What is the fucking HBO documentary? It's also the book the HBO on Scientology the Lawrence Wright Going clear. Yeah. Yeah, I read the book and I watched the document so crazy But I know nothing about it besides like Tom Cruise. I'm gonna be like I'm gonna be honest. I'm totally ignorant Yeah, it's you know for some people. Here's the thing for some people its structure and it's helpful, right? ideologies are helpful sometimes because they give you like a Like a format to live your life by or scaffolding to keep your your your moral beliefs inside of these boundaries And it helps you get ahead and you have purpose and decision-making But at the end of the day, it's a cult, you know, right? Yeah, and there's a lot of them There's a lot of different ones. So how do you decide? It's just that there's something that comes from I think just learning certain lessons It doesn't need to be to I'm not saying that we all like structure from structure Like like the Bible used to be taught in school objectively They would be taught by people that you know, we're not practicing Christians, right? Used to be taught in school objectively because there's still lessons that are timeless in these Bible stories It doesn't do with whether or not you're you don't need to then say oh and then we go to church and then we pray In school and all that stuff you can almost extract that and try to teach these lessons objectively But what kids are learning now is like how to be an anarchist like, you know feminism 101 and every it's you're like actually Fostering an angry culture by telling them in every term if they should be outraged We are in outrage culture and then you're you're surprised when somebody does something outrageous Right, it's a little bizarre to me It's like everything should piss you off. Everything should make you angry. Everything should make you upset Everything is unjust. Everything is oppressed and I don't know why this kid just shot up a school Why was he so angry? Like it's like we're weird It's like we're weirdly fake and no one wants to have the conversation the shooting happens and everyone's talk about the NRA and then David Hogg is back on the news Jordan Peterson has some interesting ideas about religion and the fundamental beliefs and the lessons that are learned from things like the Bible and how they apply to human life and That our own belief systems without them without these sort of structures and belief systems is one of the things that leads Civilization astray and that it's done that before and things go awry Well, I actually had this debate with Charlie and I did a panel Down in DC and we were talking about whether like, you know The reintroduction of God and teaching him to school and I said like at some point there seems to be the struggle I have this idea that like human beings in a certain way were doomed to just keep repeating history I'm obsessed with Greek mythology. I'm obsessed with like Egyptian history hieroglyphics like anything that like where they tell stories especially Greek mythology because the lessons are there and we just keep doing It right greed lust like the things that human beings fall for right So I had this idea when we were talking because Charlie is is an evangelical Christian. I'm not right I believe in I the super smart guys and evangelical. Yes So does he believe like Jesus came back to life? Yes, really? Yes He's an evangelical so he believes that someone died. Yeah, and then three years three days later Yeah, they came back to life and that they walked on water and yeah I mean you have to I haven't really gotten into a thing because I'm not like I'm not the person that should ever be like Debating or are talking about religion. It's not my like schtick, I guess but so what I said to him is me and him both believe that in many ways the reason that the government has The media has started around Lee dissing God right like and dissing Jesus Christ is because the government wants to be God Right. So if people do a minute, do you think the media is responding to the government's suggestion? Is that what you think the reason why people are going after religion? Yeah, I think is responding to some sort of orders from the government not orders. That's that's wrong So it's it's directive. No, no, but you know, Andrew Andrew Breitbart said that politics is downstream from culture, right? So and you can argue that they they feed into each other whatever it is But there's there's definitely something between culture and politics that is linked and it should be linked so when you know When everyone's on the same page like so if the government wants to get bigger which it has been doing Right and wants people to look to them for answers, which it has been doing you have to Understand they have to sort of destroy everything else that they would potentially be looking to for answers, right? So instead of when you're down and out and people would just go to church and pray right or believing in your family or the family Structure they need to know that no matter what you think the government is the answer That is what a leftist at the end of the day the left believes the government can fix all of their problems And and I find especially when I speak about his office. They do not believe in religion like there's just a thing I've noticed that you know, I'm not religious. I'm not saying that, you know, there's something wrong with it But leftists tend to be you know, really apart from religion so you could make the argument could definitely be made that the destruction of believing in the Bible of stop teaching the Bible is because you want to make it so that every time you have a problem because You're still gonna our soul we still need to believe in something We're naturally beings that we need to believe that something can fix something I really believe that that it's the reason why we go get our palms read, right? like we just like there's there's something else somebody has the answer and People are starting to believe it's government in America. Well, and it freaks me out I I agree with you that people like structure and I agree with you that people without religion Try to find that structure and those rules and other things, but I don't believe that this is like some calculated Nature I think it's human nature