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Ben O’Brien is a writer, editor, and member of the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers Board of Directors.
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The plants themselves. Yeah. It's all very strange, man. There's no way out, man. There's no way out of this. But in their eyes, even if there's no way out, it's the path of least pain and suffering. And I would tell those folks, I respect the shit out of that. And I'm trying to do, I'm trying to take this into my own hands and actively, in a more tangible way. You're hands off, I'm hands on, is the way that I would say that. And I respect the hands off. I respect, I'm cognizant of what's happening here and I'm trying to make it better. I respect that. I feel what you're saying and I see what you're trying to do. But if I'm thinking through the eyes of a vegan, you can go fuck yourself. I'm being the nice guy and you're being the dick. Lots of butts like vegans, a lot of them are dicks. Like I get messages from those people all the time. Because you're killing and eating animals. You're killing animals. You fucking asshole, you think you gotta free a pass. Just kill animals. Anytime you bond, but you don't. Some of them, so. I like this devil's advocate side of you, Joe. Thank you. Did you see Moby, you ever look at Moby's page? Never had that. Moby has a wonderful Instagram page. Never looked at Moby. But he had something that was so preposterous the other day and I read the comments under it. I was like, this is so hilarious. About eggs. And this is what it said. I mean, first of all folks, you come talking to a person who has chickens. Eggs are like the most karma free thing. Says eggs cannot legally be labeled as healthy, nutritious, or safe to eat. First of all. This is true because eggs are full of cholesterol and saturated fat and because every year over 100,000 people in the US contract Salmonella from eggs, they cannot legally be advertised as healthy or safe or nutritious. Okay, first of all, that's not true. Okay, I don't know why you posted that Moby. You didn't look into it. Is there something called Add Animal Equality? How many people get Salmonella from eggs every year? Because if it was 100,000, the fucking egg market collapsed so goddamn fast. So let's dismantle Moby. Please go ahead, do that. Just dismantle this preposterous idea that 100,000 people get Salmonella. Okay, here we go. Even with safety steps in place, it is estimated that about one in 20,000 or one in 10,000 eggs are contaminated with Salmonella. Wow, that's a lot. Is Moby right? What did he say? 100,000 people get it? Right. But see if you could find how many people in the US contract Salmonella. Because if they find out that this Salmonella in eggs, are they finding out that's from uncooked eggs? Every year, about a million people get Salmonella infected from foods that have been contaminated by one of the many kinds of Salmonella. Is he right? Okay, let's see if it's 100,000 people from eggs. How many people per year get Salmonella from eggs? What does it say? Salmonella in the United States, 142,000 people in the United States are infected each year with Salmonella. Whoa, hold on. That says from chicken eggs. Wait a minute. 142,000 people in the United States are infected each year with Salmonella from chicken eggs and about 30 die. Dude, not only is Moby right, but he's off by 42,000. Now you're gonna be way more of a devil's advocate than you're gonna be for. I'm gonna hit you hard with this devil's advocate. Come on, what'd you do, Jimmy? I don't have any egg-related, I'm trying to say egg-related, or specific kind of Salmonella specific kind of chicken eggs. Salmonellosis, that's what it is when you get it. So we found that this is true? Yep, not only is it true, it's from 2010, maybe it's different in 2018. 142,000 people in the United States are infected each year with Salmonella enteritis. Enteritis, enteritis, enteritis from chicken eggs and about 30 die. So he lost 30 pussies. In 2010, an analysis of death certificate, joking. My dad died for, I was joking, it's just a joke. Rest in peace. We're in the comedy section of iTunes. Identified 1,316 Salmonella-related deaths from 1990 to 2006. Whoa. Whoa. Now, here's- Thanks, Moby. But this is a problem, these fucking dummies are eating them raw. This is what I want you to Google. How nutritious are eggs? How about Google this? Because I've been eating eggs my whole fucking life. I've never gotten Salmonella. They look pretty good. You look like you're doing fine. By the way, if you eat chicken raw, you get Salmonella too stupid. You're not supposed to eat it raw, you're supposed to cook it. Okay, one egg has only 75 calories, but seven grams of high quality protein, five grams of fat, and 1.6 grams of saturated fat, along with iron, vitamins, minerals, and carotenoids. The egg is a powerhouse of disease-fighting nutrients like lutein and zeaxothin. Okay, Moby, so shut the fuck up. They're super, super nutritious for you. Just occasionally- Back off, Moby. Somebody gets Salmonella. How about just cook your fucking food? Yeah, fucking eggs. But here's where it gets really dark. Why don't you Google this? How many people die every year from E. coli from vegetables? That's right. Because of a shitload of- Anticorn. It's actually from farmed animals. It's actually from agriculture. A little runoff from the shit. Let's Google how much methane comes from. How much methane comes from vegans' broccoli bars? Yeah. It's deadly. I like how, let's go back to this, like where you play the vegan and I'm like- It's perfect, dude. It's fun. Dude, Moby's so right. He's not just right. He's more than 40,000. Moby, please. Just six degrees of Moby. Let's edit your post with the correct number. You're right about eggs are dangerous, bro. Don't eat them raw. Good die. Yeah, don't eat them raw, stupid. Okay, here it goes. CDC estimates 265,000 infections occur each year in the United States of E. coli. Wow. 36% are caused by E. coli 0157.87. Dude, it's almost all from animal agriculture. It's almost all from shit, from shit water. Here, types of E. coli that can cause illness can be transmitted through contaminated water or food through contract with animals or people. Yeah, but when they say contaminated water, what they really mean is that water's contaminated with shit from animal agriculture. I think almost entirely. What is the source- What is the timeline here? The source of E. coli, Google this, most prominent source of E. coli in vegetables. I would guarantee you it's animal agriculture. I mean, if you see those gigantic fat- Yeah. farms in the runoff and- Most prominent source of E. coli in vegetables, is that what you said? Psh, you're better at this than me. Just as you can figure it out. I'm just like, get it, Joe. You find it. You find the evidence. I'm trying to be- I'm trying to be- Like a Moby. Yeah, I'm trying to be vegan. I'm not arguing for the vegans on the vegan side. I like this, I like this. It's not hard to do. No, it's not hard to do. It's a respectable position, man. And it just is. It's all three, actually. What does it say? The thing that popped up as the most common way to acquire E. coli infection is by getting contaminated. Ground beef, unpasteurized milk, fresh produce. And that fresh produce means not cooked. So if you get broccoli- Yeah, you have like a- Yeah, just spinach. You're supposed to cook spinach. Celery. And that's the problem with romaine lettuce, right? Because romaine is, nobody ever cooks that stupid fucking shitty lettuce. Fuck, the world had no romaine lettuce. Do you think you'd be okay? I think I'd be fine, bitch. My dad calls it the hard lettuce. He's like, I don't want that hard lettuce. Give me the soft. Oh, I don't like iceberg. Give me the soft lettuce. Iceberg is just a joke. It's just room for meat. I could be putting meat in my stomach instead of that shitty ass white. Delicious, delicious. Clear lettuce, yeah. Listen, I would say-