Joe Rogan & Ben O'Brien - The Downside of Food Abundance

Like you've had Michael Pollan on the show before he wrote that omnivore's dilemma and in it he was just said Basically in a paraphrasing, but he said it hunting is so different from the inside than it is from the outside Yeah, so easy to view hunting in the lens of like there's a dude sitting behind a deer smiling and grabbing its antlers There's also the problem that malnutrition in this country is almost non-existent Fat people are poor people in this country. Yes fucked like poor people are fat Yeah, which is one of the weirder things about our society. This is never her This has never happened in the history of human beings that the poor people were the big fat ones I got cell phones. I mean, there's a lot of rich people that are fat, too Don't get me wrong, but there's it's people don't have a problem being fat Sure, right and this doesn't mean that there's not a lot of malnutrition there most certainly is but it's nutrition It's not this not a lack of calories lack of calories was a massive problem Throughout most of your history the lack of food So it's the the access to food is so Normal to us. It's so easy, but the unfettered access to food is what's really normal now Yeah, that's what's changed with industrialization and and coming on fast fast food is processed food is fucked Yeah, even if you go back to when people When hunting was more normal in the 1920s or the 1930s or something like was really normal There's also no fast food Yeah so when you would get a roast even if you went into a butcher and you got a roast and you brought it home and You're making roast beef and you're cooking it or your uncle shot a deer Milk was delivered to your door. Yeah Not my dad, you know, so there's a lot of different there's a lot of raw. Yeah, so there's a lot of different Yeah, like the removal from The actual you know process that hunters go through but actually it might not have been raw like when they start pasteurizing and modernization That's a Jamie thing. That was a Louie Pasteur that is who it was Pasteurization right? That's that's what it came from. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we pasteurize milk. Um When they start implementing that like when you would get the milk on your door in those glass jars Didn't that milk go bad quick though, but that's you know, my grandparents. That's what they would describe the milkman 1880s so when it started that's when it started. I wonder when it was common. I Wonder if it was you think about like market hunting We always talk about in hunting like the turn of the century being this huge moment in hunting conservation Market hunting really became a thing when when it accelerated when refrigeration became a reality Right and accelerated when railroads could take meat from the great American West back to the cities in the East Coast Mmm and so those things like Accelerate that technology and those things accelerated Market hunting and the the depredation of things like the white-tailed deer and and and the buffalo as we all famously