Joe Rogan and Tom Papa on “Cats” and Other Massive Flops

Those movies that are really big, you also have to think of how much money is invested in them. Right? Oh, huge. And if they go bad, it's a giant financial... And go bad means like not make a billion dollars. Yeah, well, or lose money, like Dr. Doolittle. Right? Right? Yeah. I think that movie is probably going to lose money. Oh, really? Which is real dangerous coming from a guy like Robert Downey Jr., who's amazing. Yeah. Who's so incredible in The Avengers, and that movie made fucking kajillions of dollars. Yeah. All those movies are amazing. And then he goes and does his kids movie, and it really doesn't do well. Like those are dangerous. Those movies are like, oh, Jesus, we're on thin ice. Yeah. Get back to the shore. Right. Dangerous for who? For the actor. For the actor. Yeah. For the production company, for everybody. Yeah. What if they come to the production company a year later and say, hey, we have a new idea for a movie in the theater or the studio, and the studio's like, hey, fuck you. We lost $100 million on you, you fuck. Right. See all the issues with cats. Oh, it must... That was probably the biggest financial disaster of the year, right? Yeah. They pulled it back to like redo it, and they're going to re-release it. What? Yes. So many people are making fun of it. Are they going to do it again? They like, yeah, they left the visual effects team only apparently like nine months, and they like left watches on people that didn't cover their hands up. All sorts of bad stuff. I saw it with my kids. We were... My daughter's like, we have to see. Was it good though? Like fun to watch as a disaster? No, because in the beginning, like we thought... My daughter's like, we have to see the worst movie of the decade. How do we not go see that? And we were the only ones in the theater who was really brutal. And at first... How bad is it? It's bad, but it's so bad. Is it good? No, it's so bad it's not good bad. Wow. Yeah, it's just bad. It's so bad it's not good bad. No, like in the beginning you're gonna have a laugh, and it's like, all right, I can see why this is going to suck. And then by the end of two hours, you're like, no, I've just been hitting the head with a shovel. It's that bad. Yeah, it's really bad. Wow. And you're seeing all these people that have been in other things who are just not talking about it. You know, like, Judi Dench and... Well, it's bad. There's some other movie that came out recently that someone was saying was as bad as The Room. Oh, really? That movie The Room. See if you can find that movie as bad as The Room. Yeah, there was a whole article about it saying that this movie is so bad that it's good, that you need to... I didn't even finish typing it and it auto completed. What is it? Well, it says... Now he's showing off his skills. No, it said that it finished up, says The Room is the worst movie ever. Yeah. Maybe Hollywood or something, but... A movie as bad as The Room. The one that shocked me that everyone said was so bad was Will Farrell and John C. Riley in that new one, right? Was it true? It was a Canadian movie so bad it rivals The Room. Yeah, what is that? It's called Ryan's Babe. I don't know. Never heard of it. Is that a recent article? Yeah, it's from four days ago. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. People are telling me you have to see this. I'll turn 2,000. That was that movie. Oh. It's not a new movie, but someone just discovered that. Hey, hey, hey. That's the trailer online. But I figure you put Will Farrell and John C. Riley doing anything and I'm in. Right. Should be. And people really rebelled against it. That girl's hot, though. This looks pretty good. She's in her underwear running around for some reason. Perfect. Oh, this is terrible. Yeah, it's pretty good. This looks really bad. Some rough edits in there. So how are they going to redo cats? I don't know. Are they going to re-edit it? I think they already did. I think they re-edited it and then... But if they re-edit it, everyone's going to know that it sucked so bad they had to re-edit it. I've never heard of that, ever. Never. A movie gets released and they're like, you fucks. Okay, we'll fix it. We'll be back in a week. How much money is cats lost? It almost happened with that Sonic movie. They just didn't put it out. They put out a trailer and the internet freaked out and they're like, oh, okay, we'll redo it. Yeah. They spent a bunch of money redoing it. Sonic the Hedgehog? Yeah. Because coming out now, it actually looks a little bit better. They gave them better teeth or something. Dude, it's hard, man. Making a movie has got to be the most brutal thing ever. So hard. Guys in here that have poured their heart and soul into a movie for years. Like Motherless Brooklyn. I know. In this movie. I know. That in here, was it good? I don't know. And I love him and I love the subject matter. God, he loved that movie, man. He really did. He was so interested in it. And he puts such heart and soul into the soundtrack. And I haven't seen it. Yeah, I haven't seen it. You know, sometimes- Jesus Christ, cats headed for a hundred million dollar box office loss. What the fucking shit. Oh my God. Oh my God. I just keep thinking about them all like being at craft services and backstage. Like this is pretty great, huh? Have you seen that, girl? Like some celery sticks.