Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes on Archery in the Movies

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Cameron Hanes

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Cameron Hanes is a master bowhunter, outdoorsman, elite athlete, author, and a host of the podcasts “Keep Hammering Collective," and "Sh*t Talkers Weekly." His new book, "Undeniable: How to Reach the Top and Stay There," will be released on May 6.  www.cameronhanes.com

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The J.Rogan experience. What is this J.Q. thing you did today? It was just so they had me breaking down like archery in movies. So I did Hunger Games and they failed my reaction and got me like talking about if it's realistic. So I did Jeremy Renner. I did Robert De Niro. He was in, God, some terrible movie. And I don't even think he, I was kind of surprised he was actually hunting with a bow in the movie. What movie was that? Was that a movie with him and John Travolta? Yes. Yes. And they had a fight. John Travolta played like a Russian. Yeah. And he shot, John Travolta shot an arrow at him. So Robert De Niro was in a tree stand. John Travolta shot and it stuck in the tree. Robert De Niro jumped, fell out of the tree, and broke his bow. And so then he like started crawling towards John Travolta for summer. Anyway, they had me, but Robert De Niro actually had a pretty good anchor. I mean, he looked pretty good with the bow. Really? He had a whisker biscuit on there, which wasn't good for the rest, but he was going to shoot this bowl. Like this five point bowl came out and he couldn't do it. He like, I don't know what happened. He like had, he hesitated. Then John felt bad. Something like that. I don't know what happened. Let me see this, Jamie. Do you have it? Killing season. Yes. It's pretty intense. Not bad. No, that's no, no, no, that's not it. I don't like that grip. He had a compound bow. Yeah. Oh, it's a different one. Yeah. Right there. Yes. He looks like, uh, look at him. I know. Yeah. So he's wearing flannel too. He went old school. His radio went off and it spooked the bowl, but he jumped out and broke that bow. Yeah. So I did that one. So him and John Travolta were shooting arrows at each other? Yeah. How dumb was the movie? Terrible. Did you get chills? It was terrible. Apparently the new Rambo is unbelievably bad. Yeah. We did Rambo too. Because I said, I go, we have to do Rambo. I want to talk about when he, do you remember when he had the exploding tip and he shot the guy? Yes. Yes. That was awesome. Why is he upside down? He got caught in a trap. Yeah. Look at John Travolta's beard. Oh Jesus. It's, he's rushing. Yeah. How bad is his accent? Oh no. Is it atrocious? I'm sure. Killing season. What is it to get a rotten tomatoes? A good, a rotten tomatoes. One. I want to see a three. What does it get? Please tell me it's like 13. 10%. 10. That's impressive. That's pretty low. Yeah. That's pretty high. Well, yeah. Should be a lot lower than that. Look at him. Hey, what happened? Oh no. He shot me. Let me get up. He's trying to get up. What is he doing? Oh, oh, he hurt his ankle. I took one to the calf. Oh, did he? Yeah. Looks like. An arrow? I think. I don't know. I wanted to hear his voice. I was hoping he was going to be right there. Oh boy. It's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. There's very few movies that depict bow hunting correctly. Yeah. I didn't see any. What is this? He's holding him. He's got the arrow there. You attack him before he draws. Just shoot me. Just shoot me. Come on. You hear that? Listen to the Russians. Shoot the shit. Oh boy. Oh my goodness. Stop that right now. I'm not. I cannot. I can't do this. That's. No. No, no, no. The best form I saw in any of the movies that I reviewed for him today was, I think it's called Brave. It was an animated movie. Oh yeah. And the redheaded girl. Not bad. She actually had perfect form. Really? Yes. Oh, let me see that. Is there a movie though where someone bow hunts correctly? I mean, is there one movie? Right here. Let me see her. I watch her form when she. Oh, here they're teaching her how to shoot. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, but you'll see her. She steps up the, and it's a confidence. Oh, the confidence. The confidence. So you know she's going to put her on the X. Watch this confidence. And the attitude. See that? She's pretty bossy. My kids did not like this movie. They watch it. For some weird movie. For some weird reason. It's her. She needs that her dress is too tight. See that? Back son. Watch this. On the move. That's pretty good. I know, but watch this last one. This one's. Yeah, right here. Look at this. Watch this form. And this is with a broad head. With distractions. She's so focused. The feather cut her face a little for some reason. Oh, I like how the arrows. I know. Like a real arrow. I know, but watch this. Oh, oh, look at this. Oh, she Robin Hoods it. I know. Pretty damn impressive. See that? Come on. That's so that's what I say. All the ones that I reviewed today. That's the best. That's the best. Yeah, look at her her release. I know. See that follow through. Yeah. Follow through is excellent. Very sweet, but there's no movie where bow hunting. Now. Accurately depicted. I don't know movie. Now I'm thinking I'm trying to think of a movie that even involves bow hunting. Can you think of one? No, not not not bow hunting. No, I mean there's deliverance where he winds up hunting people. Remember? Yeah. Bert Reynolds. I wanted to do that. But they didn't have that today. They had walking dead. They had. That's ridiculous. They call that a bow. That's a shitty gun. That's what I said. I said, I don't, I'm not down with the crossbow. And you got a rotten, a rotten corpse head and it's stopping an arrow. It's not a pass through. Excuse me. Yeah, it's outrageous. Yeah. Sticks in their head. Where's this, Jim? I don't know how we missed this, but Samuel Jackson plays in a movie called Big Game where I think he might've been secret service protecting the president. Either way, the plane crashes or something and he ends up with a kid and learning how to bow hunt to survive. Oh, really? Really? It came out three or four years ago. Oh, this shit must have went straight to. Yeah, it doesn't look fantastic. But I want to say bow hunt to survive. I mean, I was getting in a fight. Yeah, I typed in bow hunting movies and this was the most recent one. I think. Oh, that's hilarious. He jumps on the helicopter. I mean, there's one, there's one for you. Stop, stop that before I get brain damage. Yeah. Isn't it interesting? You would think that there would be a way to make a movie that involves bow hunting. That would be interesting. You'd think so. Yeah, like the movie, there's only a couple good pool movies. It's like The Hustler with Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason and then The Color of Money with Paul Newman and Tom Cruise. Those are the big ones. Yeah. The Color of Money changed pool. When that movie came out in 1986, it just literally pool exploded. The same as in the 1960s when The Hustler came out. Pool exploded. So pool had two giant explosions where people really started going to pool halls. They wanted to learn how to play pool good. And then with the Hunger Games, apparently a lot of people got into archery because of Jennifer Lawrence. We got a beautiful woman shooting a bow. That's what I said. I go, you take- Looking like a badass. You, yeah, the confidence is a key, but you- Yeah. And she's hot. She's hot. And then she's got a bow. It's like 10 times hotter. Both those things are good. So yeah, she, and she, what was good with her- Was she could go from having the bow to grabbing an arrow to putting it on the string to shooting in like half a second. Yeah. And just over. Wow. I go, that's not easy to do. Well, she must have had some serious training just to be able to pull that off on film. Yeah. I think she, and I think she shot a Hoyt and I think she took lessons from a Hoyt shooter. Oh. And same thing with even Rambo's old bow, I believe was a Hoyt. Really? Yeah. That's hilarious. I know. But yeah, he had the exploding tip and the guy, the bad guy who was shooting, ran out of bullets with his gun, threw it down, pulled his pistol out, and was shooting at Rambo. And Rambo just stood up there just like, you're not going to hit me. Oh, here she is, learning how to shoot. Right. That's not her, I guess. That's her coach teaching the reporter. Oh, so this is the woman who coached Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah. Oh, okay. I want to see Jennifer Lawrence. I don't even know this chick. I thought it was. The fuck out of here with this. Yeah. But that did get a lot of people involved in archery. It did, girls especially. Yeah. Yeah, young girls. Apparently, what is her name? Gina Davis. Yeah. Gina Davis is a big time archer. She loves it. She shoots. Yeah. She shoots like. I've seen that. Competitions, right? Doesn't she? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. She's done some target competitions. Yeah. And Ivanka Trump. Does she? I saw her with a bow before. Well, obviously, Donald Jr. is the biggest one in the family. Yeah. Donald Jr. is a legit bow hunter. Yeah. He shot a giant bull in Colorado this year. Did he? Yeah. Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah. Yeah. He sent it to Dudley. He sent a picture of it to Dudley. Oh, man. Dudley showed it to me on his phone. Really? Big ass bull. Yeah. God, I didn't see that. I want to see it. Yeah, he shot it. It's a great bull. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, he's a legit bow hunter. I mean, that guy loves bow hunting. He hunts a lot. Yeah. No, he's definitely avid outdoorsman. I mean, he's always putting up stuff and with his kids especially. He learned a lot from Dudley too. Did he? Yeah, Dudley taught him quite a bit. Gave him quite a bit of training. Yeah. But there's not a single movie where someone goes bow hunting. Like, you would think that that could be, I mean, that could be a good movie. Is that Gene Davis? She tried out for the Olympic team. Oh, shit. Oh, she's shooting an Olympic recurve. She tried out for the Olympic team? Yeah. Finished 24th out of 300 women. Not bad. Yeah. Those, in the Olympics, you know, it's no compound. It's bows just like that. Wow. I think it's 70 meters. They put them in there. Wow. But you didn't find any of- Look at her. She looks fucking super legit. Look at her form. I know. Her grip hand, everything. Yeah, they're such good shooters. It's amazing how good they get. Yeah, with tabs. I mean, it's crazy. Like, you're shooting off your fingers. Yeah. And you're shooting really accurately. Is she still doing it? That's what I was looking at. They made a video with her on Funny or Die. Let me see that video. Archery tricks. Is this it? It's a joke. You said I don't know how much of it is real. Or it's for Funny or Die, so I don't know what the context was. A couple years old. She's got a gun, too. Mm-hmm. Look at her. So it's just- Oh, so you don't actually get to see- Yeah, I don't know. Oh, okay. She's just not- Being silly. So you- Look at her form. There's her form. Yeah, look at that. Did, uh, we never saw Jennifer Lawrence practicing. That's what I- That's that video I- She practiced in hiding. I know. I want to see it. Yeah. I mean, she obviously has got to have a lot of training the way she executes. Yeah. It seems- Because, like, you know, when you see Keanu Reeves in John Wick, you're like, okay, that guy had some fucking training. Yeah, shooting. A hundred percent. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. Yeah. You know?