Joe Gives His Real Thoughts on Bernie Sanders

The fucking mirror man. Like with long form podcasts you find out who the fuck everybody is. Yeah that's a good point. Like Bernie Sanders. Like I had Bernie Sanders on. There's a lot of people that like the fucking comments were insanely positive. They're like I thought that guy was crazy. Like I thought he was a nut. I would see him in these little interviews. I'm like he just wants to give away everybody's money. Like there's a picture with Bernie with my dog and one of the fucking hilarious comments. Like he just wants to give your dog treats to other dogs. That's the character. I mean everyone has a character right. The character of that guy is he just wants to take money from successful people and give it to lazy people. That's the worst the worst view of Bernie Sanders. You know and you get to see instead of like this narrative that gets established through these little short sound bites and these panel talk shows. There's three people talking over each other or debates or whatever it is. All those are ineffective and what's interesting about is all those are fueling podcasts. All those things that have so for so long been thought of as mainstream venues for getting your ideas out. Now they highlight all the problems with those and they highlight all the strengths of podcasts. That's encouraging. Yeah it's very encouraging. Are you Bernie Sanders man? He's a nice guy. I like some of his ideas. I do not have a problem with giving up more of my money as a person who's made a lot of money if I know that it's going to benefit the greater good of mankind in a real way. You don't want to see it squandered. I don't want to see it squandered. I don't like bureaucracy. I don't like red tape. I don't like government. I don't like people that are so lazy that they just want to take everybody's money and then do what they will with it and take long lunch breaks. This is the problem with a lot of what we think of in terms of government. Government is filled, it's bloated. It's filled with assholes. It's filled with people that just got government jobs and they're not good at it. No one else wants that job so they take that job and they do a shitty job with it and they squander resources. That's what drives people crazy and especially hardworking people that know how hard it is to make a living. If you're a fucking logger, you're going to give away a certain percentage of your money and you're tired all these splinters in your hands and you're exhausted and some asshole is going to take away your money and allocate a certain amount of it to nonsense, gender research and all sorts of stupid shit that you think is just fruitless. It's infuriating for people, for hardworking people with dirt under their fingernails. They don't want to think about anybody squandering their money. I'm instinctively fiscally very conservative. Not very fiscally conservative. People might look at where I'm at and think that I'm socially liberal, but in social issues, I'm somewhat libertarian. I feel that I need the right to come my direction quite a long ways on conservation issues. That's instinctively where I belong. But the right, I need them to move back my... When I say back my direction, because historically, I don't know, the right and left is hard, it's confusing, but I need them to come my way on conservation. Well, I like the way you've described yourself in the past that you're politically sort of alone, that you're kind of without a party because the left ones take your guns away and the right ones take your land away. This is what we see fiscally, the most disturbing aspects of right-wing administrations is they want to sell off public land. They want to figure out a way just a little bit, just a little bit, we're just gonna take a little bit, we're gonna use it for mining, just take a little bit, well, we might lose this salmon river, but who the fuck is paying attention to that? Yeah, I'm watching. Yes, me too. Ryan Callahan talked about that with, what is it called, Pebble Beach? Pebble Mine. Pebble Mine, yeah. That, I mean, gigantic salmon fisheries, the biggest, most important. It's a, yeah, deeply, yeah, I don't want to get into too hard, but. Yeah, you can get into the weeds with this stuff, but yeah, it's like there's no perfect party, and there's no perfect politician, there's no perfect ideology. Which pisses people off when you point that out. Yeah. Dude, we've gotten hit hard for that kind of stuff, for pointing out that it's just not, you know, we as a company, like at Meteor, we've been hit hard for pointing out that it's unfortunate that someone's not speaking for our, wholly for our concerns. Yes. Well, what's interesting about you guys is that people think that you're some sort of a green Trojan horse, which is hilarious. Yeah. I've heard that. Dude, we don't really like. You don't like guns. Oh, dude, we don't really like to hunt. I love it. But it's so preposterous. Yeah, I work with the hardest, yeah, I work with the hardest hitting, I work with the hardest hitting hunters and fishermen that there are. Ever. That have ever lived. You don't really like hunting. It's hilarious. No, it's like, it shows you. Some like beltway lobbies, you don't really like hunting. Oh, is that right? It just shows you how silly people are. It's like, let's line them up. Yeah. Yeah, come on, bring your side over here. Let me see what you're doing. Yeah, it shows you how ridiculous people can be in their desire to put people into a very small, easily dismissed category. It's like, this is what people love to do. Yeah, that's what you do that drives people crazy is you defy. You're so hard to bucket. I love it. I don't sit around night thinking about you, but I love it. I don't think about you either if it makes you feel comfortable. But I think we need more people like that.