How Violence in Chicago Compares to Mexico | Joe Rogan & Ioan Grillo

I mean this level of murder that's happened in a lot of parts of Latin America now it's crazy but in these areas, and as well you talk to other people who are just on the edge of this where they have family members involved in this and it's just they're living this. I mean these are levels of violence and it's interesting to compare historically these levels of violence because you look at some of the worst cities like San Pedro Sula, Honduras, Caracas, Siro Juarez and these are places which have levels of violence which are like way worse than medieval Europe, a lot of places medieval Europe. I mean look at the figures per hundred thousand because some of them have you know over a hundred per hundred thousand, 150 per hundred thousand and medieval Europe a lot of these cities were like 20 per hundred thousand so they're way worse now way worse in the world west than like now there are some places in the United States today like I mean I've done some research recently in Baltimore, Maryland and I was kind of it's interesting to compare that to Latin America and that's a high level that's 40 per hundred thousand that's that's not the same level but it's significant. Still more than medieval Europe? Yeah. Wow Baltimore is worse than medieval Europe. Yeah I mean I guess you have to have to some professors they might you know like you get like you know they might be they might say well Jerusalem in this time or in a line I got to try and you know it's hard to know it could really dig down exactly and that there was outbreaks of violence and killing in certain places. Right but the overall average? Yeah overall average yeah. That's a significant leap a hundred percent leap. Yeah yeah absolutely. Baltimore. What about South Side of Chicago? It's not that I mean like the level I think in Chicago comes out around 20 or something so it's not now the the whole city now these again and one of the things about the violence in the United States compared to Latin America. I mean Baltimore is is is significant but it's a fairly well the city of Baltimore is a fairly small place what they're talking about so in Mexico you have entire states that are like really violent or entire countries in Latin America whereas in the US it tends to be neighborhoods which are violent um so if you really focus on the South Side of Chicago it's probably similar levels to Baltimore I think you know it's uh um but if you look at the whole city you've got neighbors that are pretty safe in Chicago as well.