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Bryan "Hotep Jesus" Sharpe is a public speaker, tech advisor, author, and one of the hosts of the "Hoteps BEEN Told You" podcast. His latest book is "The Patriot Report: Unmasking the Conspiracy of Money and War." http://www.bryansharpe.co/
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It's a conversation that I think is a fascinating one, the conversation of reparations, because it can be no doubt that something horrible happened to the black community and they're still suffering from it, especially in the Deep South when you look at these places where the people who lived are the direct descendants of slaves. And then these are the same impoverished neighborhoods that no one's ever done anything to try to fix. So how do you fix it? You first have to start with the subconscious mind and the black mind. And the problem with the black mind is the fact that the black mind starts off with the fetus mentality. From the day you're born, you're taught the white man's out to get you. So you start off with a boogeyman and then you're taught that you're a slave. So when your subconscious mind believes that the beginnings of your race is a slave, how do you aspire to be more than that? So in order to correct the black community, you have to teach black history or so-called black history or what I would say African history in chronological order. Before we were slaves, we were kings. So how do you have a whole entire nation of 40 some odd million black people and majority of them never heard of Queen Angola, who never heard of the Songhai Empire, the Mali Empire, none of this stuff, right? King Mansa Musa. How do you raise a people's level of awareness about this stuff? And how do you elevate them to want to do things in life when they think they are a slave? That's the first thing that you have to do to help black people. You have to teach them who they are. That expression before they were slaves, they were kings. The problem with that is a king is a monarch and a monarch is one person who controls giant groups of people. You can't have a bunch of kings. There's not a lot of kings, kind of a nation of kings. Correct. But that's very different from saying, you know, we had four kings, right? Let's say there were just four, right? That's better than saying Harry Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and these three slaves, right? You actually have to see at least one king. I see what you're saying. You know, at least say... Right. So see one advanced human being that also looks like you that came from the same part of the world where your ancestors came from. So recognize that the trajectory that you and your family are on is a direct result of being enslaved. That someone was enslaved in the past and brought over here against their will. That's why there's the negative mindset. That's why there's a negative self-image is because there's this great history of oppression. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when you think you are a slave, you can't operate outside of that. And even if you don't think you're a slave, you think you're inferior, you know? Right. Do you know who Ms. Pat is? No. Hilarious comedian. One of the funniest human beings alive. Okay. And she was here, and one of the things she was talking about was when she was younger that when she would see white people, she wouldn't look them in the eyes. She would get nervous. She felt inferior being around them. She just wanted to get away. She didn't feel like she belonged. Right. Right. And that's a product of not knowing who you are, not knowing your own personal power. You know, when you look at the Second Punic Wars of Carthage, you had Hannibal went through the Alps, which is a mission impossible, and he went all the way to the doors of Rome. And Rome said, yo, we ain't coming outside to fight you, bro. We ain't coming. That's how strong the power for the army was. They said, we don't want to fight. They knew if they came outside those gates, they would get their ass whooped. So how do you have a people that walk around not knowing that Hannibal Barca is a well-studied war general today, that Pentagon still studies him? Right. So how do you operate in America as a black person and not know who Hannibal Barca is? Well, it's difficult, I think, for people that were born in America and all their known ancestors were from America to even relate. Like, my family is mostly from Italy and Sicily and some of them from Ireland. I don't relate at all. I visit Italy in the summertime. I don't relate at all. Right. So then the other side, Yap, is the fact that we were the natives. We were not brought here on slave ships. That's not economically sound. What do you mean? So when Christopher Columbus got here, one of the... Christopher Columbus got to the Caribbean, according to primary source. They basically said the first thing he did was take slaves. He didn't bring slaves. He took slaves from the island. He captured people. So when you have colonization, you got to remember, the United States was only built 13 colonies at first, right? You think this whole land was empty? No, there were natives here. But today, we're taught that natives are some other people. Even though natives are the melanated African being that has come here since the beginning of the Mali Empire, we're talking about 14th, 13th century, we had already come here from Africa. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We had already come here. To the United States or to the Caribbean? This landmass we call the United States. So the way the ocean current works is it works from Africa, leaves out of West Africa, comes to South America and the Caribbean. That's just how the currents go. You don't need no paddle boat or nothing. The currents just take you there and then you travel up. But we had already been here. All you got to do is look up the story of Sarah Rector. Sarah Rector is a wealthy, so-called Native American. I think she was a Choctaw tribe or one of these tribes, but she was wealthy. And she wanted the VI pass to go somewhere. And they had her classified as a free person. Why don't we know about the wealthy, so-called black people in America? Why don't we know that there were black slave owners in America? Why is that not taught? How many black slave owners were there? The natives here had slaves. They were trading slaves with the so-called white man. Well, they definitely did that. Natives enslaved people of other tribes. Right. If those people are us, the so-called black man, if those natives were us, then we have to tell that history and say how we did have territories and we did carry out commerce and we weren't slaves. We were slave owners. Right. But the majority of African Americans that lived here were brought over here. No. No. No, that's not economically sound. What do you mean by it's not economically sound? There were slave ships, right? Let's say you wanted to sell marijuana, right? Right. Would you import marijuana or would you grow it here if it's already here? Well, it depends on whether or not marijuana grew here. Well, can you grow marijuana here? You can, but we're just talking about marijuana. What if we're talking about something that you can't grow here? What I'm saying is people were already here. Does it make sense to go all the way to this other continent to bring people on a boat when we know that half of your stock is going to die? You wouldn't do that. So how many people do you think were brought over from Africa on slave ships? Because that definitely happened. I don't believe it. What do you mean you don't believe it? I don't believe that story. You don't believe that Africans were brought over on slave ships? Correct. I believe it may have happened. Maybe people were brought over as slaves, but I don't think that the black people in America came from Africa on slave ships. I believe the people that were here were slowly conquered. First they got to East Coast, and then they started spreading out west little by little conquering. And when you conquer a tribe, what do you do? You enslave them. They're POWs. Right? Okay. That's what you do. So after you conquer this tribe, you make them slaves. Now how do you conquer the natives here? So let's say you got this tribe is warring against this tribe. Well, this tribe goes talk to the white man. My man says, yo, if you help me wipe out these people, then boom, I'll help you with whatever, whatever. So they get together and they wipe out this other tribe. Now guess what? The white man now outnumbers this tribe, so he wipes them out. You just kill two birds with one stone. You just keep moving like that. But I'm still confused. There's a great history of slave ships being brought over from Africa with Africans that became slaves and worked in the south. Do you think that's lies? History is his story. What about my story? Is my story not valid? But if you do 23andMe on someone who will be from these parts of the country, you'll find out that they... 23andMe? Well, that's real. So what is 23andMe? So when I take a 23andMe test, right? Yes. What's it going to tell me about Africa? That's a good question. We should find out. It's probably going to say, oh, you're from Kenya or you're from Angola. You're from this. Right? Right. So these borders were created by Europe? In terms of what parts of Africa and how it's distributed and what's a country and what's not a country. Yeah. These names? By the Afrikaners and Dutch. Yeah. Okay. So you can't classify me based upon a European name? I understand that. But they're saying geographically, geographic location, you can call it whatever name you want. Right. They can tell you where your genetics originated. I've got some weird shit in me. I got like 1% Asian. I don't know why it's there. 1.6% African. Okay. There's also the weird stuff that you find in your DNA that like your ancestors and ancestors ancestors someone was somewhere. Let's walk down that path. So either way, if you take black people here in America, you do a DNA sample and it point back to Africa, what does that say? It says black people in America are Africans. Now the argument is, were we brought here or were we already here? Did we bring ourselves here or did the white man bring us here? You see, when you say the white man brought us here, what you're doing is you're removing our ability to transport ourselves. You're saying, oh, we didn't know anything about boats. That's what you're trying to tell me. You're trying to tell me that we didn't know that there was a landmass here. Only the holy white man knew there was land to the west. But when you look at the holy white man, he said, when we got here, we met black people. Go look at the primary source. You got here, we met black people. You got the Caribbean, we met black people. You think the Caribbean is right next to America and they weren't in America? That's interesting. Does it make any sense? Well, it makes sense that you do have people that have traveled, whether it's Polynesians that traveled to Hawaii or people, I mean, there's the Olmecs who were thousands and thousands of years ago in South America. They have clearly African faces. Yes. I mean, really, when the noses, the lips, I mean, they look African. That was a South American culture that existed and we don't know anything about them other than the fact that they have these gigantic stone sculptures that have African faces. Well, like again, just go to... If you can pull up the ocean currents. No, I've seen that. You've seen that, man. Do you know who Graham Hancock is? I've heard about him, yeah. Read his stuff. It's really fascinating because he's all about that. He's all about the fact that the idea that human beings were probably living in advanced civilizations far longer than 14,000 years ago, and they did travel all over the world and that you do find the remnants of these ancient cultures that we have no explanation for throughout the Amazon and throughout different parts of South America and Central America. I mean, when you go and you look at real European history, you had the Magyars would believe that if they took a bath, it was bad. They didn't even want to change their clothes. They thought that dirty was purity. When we talk about the Moors going into Spain and into Europe, the stories in the history, our history, says that when we met the so-called Caucasian, he was sleeping in the barn with the animals and we told him, no, you can't sleep in the barn with animals. We taught them etiquette. We taught them running water. We brought that technology to Europe. Now, if we brought the technology to Europe that saved Europe from the Black Plague, you mean to tell me that if we saved the white race that we weren't already in America already? When we brought the technology, when Rome was dependent on Africa for food, remember when the Black Plague hit Rome, the cause was one of the officials was still in the grain that was coming from Africa. So there was famine hit Rome. If your source of sustenance is from Africa, how will you superior? You're not. You get your food from me. So if you get your food from me, who's more likely to travel this globe? Me, I'm the source of food. And that's the first thing you need to survive on this planet. So if your whole civilization is dependent on me to supply food, I made it to America first. It's just that you won the war and you got to tell the story. Is that their only source of food? I mean, it's a source of food that Rome had, right? But Rome is also very close to Africa. Well, let's talk about that. What kinds of food did they have? Well, I don't know. It's a very rudimentary, it was a very rudimentary civilization. It wasn't all what is cracked up to be. When you go look at what the Greeks said about Egypt, when they go into Egypt, it's like, yo, it's like the New York City of that time. The ultimate. If you really want to talk about African civilization being advanced, Egypt is the ultimate because Egypt to this day is still unexplained. No one really understands how they built those things. No one understands how old the culture is. That's another thing that Graham Hancock and Dr. Robert Chalk from Boston University, who's a geologist, he's pointing to water erosion and the temple, the sphinx that leads you to believe that that place might have been as old as 9,000 plus BC. So it absolutely is. If not older, you know, going back to Pharaoh Ramses. There's also different styles of architecture, right? There's older styles of architecture they find deeper in the sand. They think it might've been indicative of an earlier kingdom. And then there's also the Nubian structures of some of the faces, particularly the sphinx, you know, the sphinx they believe had a lion's face. And then when they were conquered by the Nubians, they changed the actual structure of the face of the sphinx and turned it into a king's face. Well, the way it was taught to me was that it is upper and lower Egypt. So upper Egypt is actually our new South, right? That's our South. And what the way it was taught to me was that was the mind of Egypt and the economic section of Egypt was what we see in Giza pyramids. And it's economic because if you look at it, it sits between three continents on the Mediterranean sea. So it's a perfect place to carry out commerce. It's the perfect place. That's why everybody wants to be there. That's why there's a war in the Middle East because it's a perfect place to be. So do you believe that some Africans came over here and slave ships or none? Very minimal. Very minimal. Really? So you think it's a myth? Almost. Now, does there any scholars that support these opinions or these your opinions or where are you getting this from? So here's the thing. This is stuff I've studied probably close to 15 years ago. So I don't remember a lot of my sources or who I learned it from, but I can give you a couple of names. What you got to do is you got to look up Shaka Akmos. You got to look up Dr. Kabakamine, Dr. Phil Valentine, Bobby Hemet. Who else is a good Egyptologist? Shaka Akmos is a real good Egyptologist. I think you should start there with Shaka Akmos. But these are, these are videos I used to watch and lectures I used to watch back in the day. Now I focus on like startups and that's where my brain is. That's where my knowledge is focused on. Right. But a lot of this stuff comes from my own common sense. It just does not make sense logistically to take people from all the way from over there to bring them here, especially when half your stock is going to die. When you got people right here, you have human resources right here. All I got to do is pop them, shoot a couple of them. The rest of them are like, all right, fine. And you enslave them. And none of them die except for the ones I actually killed. Right. I got a whole millions of people right here. Like why would I go all the way across the ocean to bring people back across the ocean? It just doesn't make sense. It's just stupid that nobody run a business like that. What's up, Jim? PBS. How many, the title was how many slaves landed in the US? Well, scroll it up. Scroll it up so I can read that whole thing. Okay. Right to there. Perhaps you like me were raised essentially to think of the slave experience primarily in terms of our black ancestors here in the United States. In other words, slavery is primarily about us right from the Crispus attacks and Philip Wheatley, Benjamin Banneker and Richard Allen, all the way to Harriet Tubman, so Jorn Truth and Frederick Douglas. Think of it as an instance we were might think of as African American exceptionalism. In other words, it is the black experience. It's got to be about black Americans. Well, black Americans will think again, the most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of slave trade is the transatlantic slave trade database edited by professors David Altus and David Richardson. While the editors are careful to say that all the figures are estimates, they believe that the best estimates that we have, the proverbial gold standard in the field, the study of the slave trade between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the new world, according to the transatlantic slave trade database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the new world. 10.7 million survived the dreaded middle passage disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America. How many of those 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America, only about 388,000. That's right. A tiny percentage. So a small percentage of all the Africans that were enslaved were actually shipped to North America. That's probably closer to truth. They didn't come from Africa, bro. That don't make no sense. Nobody run a business like that. Well, they're saying that a lot of people did though. That's 10.7 million people. Came on boats. That's what they're saying. That's a transatlantic slave trade. I don't know if that means that they necessarily came here. They could have been going to Europe. Well, no, they were saying that it was in Caribbean. The slave trade does not have to come from Africa. I can trade with you right here in America. But was it? No, it said directly to North America is only the under 400,000. Right. Right. Involved in the shipping and going all over the world. It could be going anywhere. But from Africa. That's less than 10%. Africans shipped. Yes. That's less than 10%. Less than 10% in North America, but 10.7 million Africans enslaved and moved. Yeah. 10.7 survive, right? Were shipped, but it didn't say where they were shipped. It's just to the new world. New world is very arbitrary. And only 388,000 actually made it to North America. I could trade from Haiti or Jamaica or South America. So you think that, yeah, right. So you think that there was probably already a significant population of Africans that were sea bearing that made it all the way over here. Yes. Well, if you listen to the words of Hancock and the discussion of pre-historic, what we would consider prehistoric use of boats and ships, it's probably likely. Look at ancient Egypt. Don't you see pictures of boats? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So they would bury them. I mean, if you could, there was the, what is the big science museum in LA that had the Egypt exhibit really recently. It's fucking incredible. But they had a depiction of the boats that they used. Yeah. I mean, they had boats for sure. They had boats. They definitely traveled. So how can you tell me that a civilization had boats before Europe was literate, didn't come to America, didn't set up shop? It's just not common. I mean, just, I don't need to read a book to understand that. But definitely makes sense if they made it to South America. I mean, if the Olmecs were, I mean, if you look at, you pull up an image of the Olmec heads, this is heavily disputed. John Henry Clark is author you should study. John Henry Clark has a book. They come before Columbus. I mean, look at that. Look at these Olmec heads. They all looked like that. South America. Yeah. So if you have, there has to be a large population of people in order to create these things, right? It has to be, you know, they have to be advanced. So if they're here already in South America, why are you going to go across and see when you got people right here, you can just enslave. South America is connected to America. You think we didn't come up north? You think we didn't take that walk? Right. It's just common sense. Well, particularly when they're finding all this evidence of people that were here thousands and thousands of years before they ever thought people were. Yeah. Yeah. Or the evidence in the Grand Canyon from Egypt. What? I didn't know about that. What's that? Is, uh, you heard about that part of it. Yeah. There might be some gold down there. Is this Egyptian gold in the grand canyon? Hey, imagine if they found a fucking the Egyptian tomb and there's Egyptian stuff that's been found in Ohio. Yeah. What? Yeah. Well, I was looking some stuff up, but the grand was telling me I went home and looked up the serpent mound stuff and like right up the road from where the serpent mound is, there's been a couple of artifacts found there. Like a hundred years ago. Artifacts you call mound. Pull that up. Yeah. There's mounds in America, which yeah. Supposed to be like pyramids or whatever. So there's even an Egypt, Ohio. I don't think it's named after that, but it's literally like in the same spot. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. There's this, this, this history of human travel is fucking fascinating. Circumnavigated this global for man. This, this isn't new stuff. It's new to Europe. It wasn't new to the African race, man. Yeah. We, we've been here. They got the mounds, the archeological evidence from Egypt and the grand canyon. It's right there. See, I've never heard that before. That is interesting. Archeological evidence in the grand canyon. Cause it's not part of his story. He's got to keep you thinking. He's got to keep the black people thinking you were slaves and you came from Africa on boats. That's what they got to keep you thinking. But you really think that there's some sort of a grand conspiracy to withhold information.