JOE ROGAN ON DMT TRIPS // "you should be scared bitch"

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If life wasn't real it'd be the craziest psychedelic trip ever - Joe Rogan

Joe talks DMT

Joe ''your brain produces DMT during REM sleep'' Rogan

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Yeah, anytime you think you got DMT figured out your next trip is gonna be a mind-bender. Your next trip is you get cocky going there like I've done this before, I'm just pretty relaxed about my DMT trip so I used to really freak out but I don't anymore. Bitch, you better be scared. You better be scared. You're white knuckling it right now. You're gonna go deep. And Gabra Mate said the same thing about Aya. He's done hundreds of ceremonies and he still gets nervous every fucking time he does it. So get nervous before you do anything that's important. It's a sign that you're getting ready for something crazy. Well, and there's a healthy level of respect. I think most people run into the issue, you know, they want to alter their consciousness and they'll take a substance thinking like this is gonna make me feel a certain way and then all of a sudden they gotta deal with some shit. They gotta work through something and that's not what they had on their radar. Yeah. No, I agree. And then also this need to control the experience is always the thing that fucking sends everybody off the rails and into the woods. If they're having any kind of experience, this need to control that experience like no, there's no, no, fuck this. I'm sitting down, you know, and like, no, man, you gotta let go. If you don't let go, you're gone. And you gotta surrender to it. And if you don't, you're gonna go through 15 minutes of Satan. I was with my old man in Panama at the tribal gathering and we're both doing a ayahuasca ceremony together and we had the first cup and it's strong. Like people, shaman came in, fucking amazing experience and they offered the second cup and I'm like, get up, dude. They're doing it. And he's like, I don't know. And I'm like, come on, let's go. So we take the second cup, we come way back down and I've had, I mean, to ballpark, I've had, there's been ceremonies where I've had four cups and it was launch, you know, this two cup, that's where we were fucking launched. So we go back into the teepee and, uh, you know, noble silence. We're not talking to each other and he just grabs my arm and he's like, I'm going to leave. I'm floating out of here. I don't want to go. I don't want to go. And I was like, fuck yeah, dude. Let go, let go, go with it. Now's your opportunity. Let go. See where it takes you. And he's like, no, no, I'm not letting go. I want down. I want down right now. It's too much. I'm too high. And I'm like, well, high's not the right term. And this other guy from Switzerland hurt us. And he goes, uh, he'll rub some peppermint on his, on his wrist. It will help him. Oh, Jesus Christ. Peppermint oil and that grounded him. Wow. After that, you know, he's done ayahuasca since then. And he was like, fuck, that was my opportunity to fucking break through and go deeper than I've ever been before. But I wasn't prepared. I wasn't ready to let go and surrender to it. Wow. And that's, that's it, man. You want to have that mindset going in where if you face some shit, it's okay. You know, and if you have the opportunity, especially in fucking DMT or ayahuasca, which is DMT based, like to have that ability, like, all right, the answer is yes. It makes you wonder what the guys who created yoga were doing. I think, I think those people, like those people that learn how to do those long holding poses that they were practicing, there's a lot of belief that those people were eating a lot of hash, like, especially the, the earliest people that were, that created it. And they were soma, whatever the fuck soma was ever here, references to soma. I don't, I don't even think they know what that is. Some sort of a psychedelic, but that whole practice of yoga, if you really think about a lot of what yoga is, like you have to just breathe and just concentrate on maintaining the pose. You have to put yourself into this like surrender zone. You know, you can't like fight a position. You just kind of kind of accept it and just concentrate on breathing and hold it as long as you can until your body starts giving out and then you let it go again. But I think that prepares you in some way to let go in psychedelic experiences. I think that people that don't have any, if you don't have any kind of physical altercation with your body, there's no like moment where you're like, come on, man, come on, breathe, breathe, breathe, go, go, go. If you don't have any of those, if you never, I mean, I don't give a fuck what you're doing. Whether it's a spin class or just, if you never have anything where you're pushing yourself when you don't want to do it, but you make yourself do it and then you did it. If you don't have those, like those, those moments where you overcame something that feels uncomfortable, then those, those bends in the trip road are scary dark because you don't have any success in coming back from bad states. You don't have any success from coming back from like feeling really scared or feeling really nervous. Like those build up a database. If you don't have a lot of success in doing those, or especially success in getting your body to just fucking relax, just fucking relax, it's just a broken leg. If you don't have that in you, like it's, it's probably real hard to navigate some of the darker roads of a trip where you just have to just kind of just breathe and just try to stay as calm as you can. Let it embrace you as calm as you can. I think that it works both ways too. You know, like you have, if you put yourself in uncomfortable, stressful spots in everyday life like a cold bath or the cryo and you come and you can stay calm in the fucking eye of the storm and come out of that, that extrapolates out in life. Somebody cuts you off in traffic. You're a little bit more chill. It's not that big of a deal. And same thing in the psychedelic experience. You go through some rough shit, you come out of that. Okay. All right. I still have my body. I was able to work through that. Now it kind of lowers the noise on all the bullshit in life. Yeah, I agree.