Joe Rogan Experience #2498 - Brendan Schaub

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Brendan Schaub is the host of “Big Brown Breakdown” as well as the Tubi series “Gear Heads Gone Wild.” ⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300019796/gear-heads-gone-wild⁠ ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@ThicccBoy

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0:00UFC weekend breakdown: Joshua Van’s rise, flyweight/heavyweight age talk, Sean Brady vs Buckley, and suspicious betting movement
9:57Sports betting everywhere, ethics of betting on yourself, and UFC talk: Strickland vs. Chimaev
19:57UFC fight scoring vs commentary; Strickland–Chimaev hype and Chimaev’s weight cut/cardio issues

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the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day

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hey hey what's up brother what's up my man good to see you what's going on this

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is a good time

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for you to come in man right after this weekend holy shit brother bro for i

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mean everybody's

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talking about the sean strickland hamza fight and the debate but before we even

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talk about that bro

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how fucking good is joshua van and he's only been fighting about five years

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that's what's scary

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crazy five years crazy and he has some holes for sure that that certain guys

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are uh you know

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expose but five think how he's not the best on the ground he's also 24 he's 24

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yeah crazy athlete

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but his fucking boxing it might be the best in the ufc it's up there it's him

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or ilia yeah well

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ilia the thing about ilia is ilia is one punch night night that's the

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difference it's tough at flyweight

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to be a knockout artist but then also josh david davison figueredo true true he

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was starching

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people he was but with josh too again he's 24 but in tutsi or tyra he also just

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was blocking punches with

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his face well that's the other thing like his defense was so bad i think he was

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that joshua van's offense

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was so good you know what i think it's combo of both yeah it's a combo yeah for

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sure because tyra is

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primarily a grappler i mean he's obviously a mixed martial arts fighter and he

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he did strike i mean

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that's why he didn't completely get blown out of the water he did strike pretty

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well it's just the

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counters came so clean so sharp like i re-watched some of it today and i was

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like good lord that's pretty

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so good he looks so good and again 20 24. and you know it took all the stink

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off of the way he won

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the title yeah but the not not me i'm sure not you but there's a lot of

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questions that haven't been

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answered oh for sure because pantoja's a motherfucker patoja and look at that

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like assassin okay how would

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he do against pantoja hey man but again his stock went up after this fight i'll

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tell you that look

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it was oh it was always up right but tyra was a real threat tyra got him on the

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ground wasn't able to

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submit him joshua vange pieced him up on the feet man but again at 24 so let's

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say they do the pantoja rematch

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whatever q4 and let's say pantoja gets that win all good he's 24. right he's

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gonna be your champ for a

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very long time and how long how old is alchandre pantoja at this point not

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young in flyweight years

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he's 67. yeah flyweight's tough 36 36 yeah that's tough yeah that's tough if he

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was a middleweight you'd

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be like that's the beginning of the slide right that's the beginning of the

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slide yeah for welterweight

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you're like oh yeah but it flyweight oh bro it's crazy yeah heavyweight is like

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oh he's in his prime oh

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we're cooking it look at francis yeah francis is like 38 or something yeah yeah

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38 yeah francis is

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in his fucking prime why wait nobody looks at francis it goes eyes over the

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hill oh never

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not at all no there's some old cats at heavyweight doing the damn thing

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especially now the heavyweight

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divisions how old volkov 59. honestly i used to train with volkov back in the

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day right he was

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a bellator champion m1 champion he was a bellator champion in the early days of

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bellator yeah and

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remember he had in bellator and when he first got the ufc he had that moana

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tattoo on his back

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he had the stingray and he changed it into that japanese mask yeah i like this

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the new one looks

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dope the new one looks so dope i like to think i'm the one that kind of bullied

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him into doing that

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because i it's all i ever talked about for like six years when he fought and he

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comes out just this

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dope ass samurai tattoo i'm like yeah well sometimes you realize like this ain't

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making it i gotta fix this

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yeah especially that people like bro why do you have a fucking stingray on your

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back bro speaking of

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tattoos how many tattoos does sean brady have that's motherfuckers feet are

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tattooed bro like his

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entire body's tattooed how good did he look phenomenal this thing might

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phenomenal i always

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get stressed out because everyone's asking for betting picks before the fights

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and i mma's tough

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dude mma's tough to fucking pick yeah so uh with the joaquin buckley fight the

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reason i i told my

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brother mike literally put your mortgage on sean brady because joaquin buckley

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did an interview

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like a week before i was like i'm not working on grappling i'm not wrestling or

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grappling i'm just

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gonna keep this thing standing knock this motherfucker out i was like oh buddy

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no way he really said that

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yeah you can find it out there but that could have been just a tactic to try to

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get sean brady because

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sean brady probably saw that interview too yeah and was like cool say less and

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just i know but i mean

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ten seven rounds three of them i know it was nuts but i mean you could say that

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i get i hear you if

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you were just playing mental games i get you but maybe he actually did that and

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it appeared so it

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well hard to say because that's how good sean brady is hard to say it's just

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tough when you lose like

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that because you go back to the you go back to the locker room you're like

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fuck we're not even in the same ballpark no like i'm what am i gonna do you

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look at your coach

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staff you go what are we gonna do i thought i was a top five guy right i just

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got beat ten six three

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three rounds in a row okay i was gonna bring this up so i have some insight to

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this so there was a

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very strange betting behavior um it says it turns out to be meaningless bet

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online cited abnormal betting

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patterns as buckley moved uh from plus 150 underdog to minus 220 favorite

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before the fight

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so this is what happened um there was money that moved very quickly before the

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fight and uh the ufc

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obviously because they've been through this with the guys fixing fights and the

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fbi investigated it

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they got concerned and so um i believe what happened is they minimized the

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amount that you could bet

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online so you couldn't bet big money anymore i don't know what the let's find

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out what the cap

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they put on it was um but then you um they they were going to go ahead with the

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fight but they

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wanted to make sure that sean brady wasn't injured so this was the fear the

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fear was that some inside

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camp word got out sean brady's got an injury and then all the money jumps up

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because that a lot of

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times that's what happened but they they did it right because i before they

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would just cancel the fight

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like we don't know what's going on machine can't fight no just take the fight

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off the betting sites

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well they only did that one time they did that one time with the alexander hernandez

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i don't

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remember who he's fighting i don't remember who alexander hernandez was

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fighting but they did that

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with that fight and i thought that was really crazy crazy they asked alexander

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like are you okay he's

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like i'm fine like i am planning on winning this fight but for some reason he

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became an underdog like

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nothing came out from it either no like i wish they'd be a little more

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transparent like okay we looked into

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it it's our bat this you know but they just cancel the fight and so everyone

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now we just assume

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something happened something happened somebody's being dirty yeah but then hernandez

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fought again

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and lost his next fight um who did he fight he fought someone on a fight night

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it was a very good

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fight very close fight the dude was very good but i'm glad they're not just

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pulling the fight

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oh michael johnson it was supposed to be michael johnson yeah but they didn't

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have that fight and then who did he fight next instead so let's just go over

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this real quick

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before we figure out who he fought amid suspicious betting movement so what but

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what is suspicious

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betting movement like what if you and your boys all go it i'm going all in and

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you just decide to bet

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a hundred thousand dollars on buckley will that change it that dramatically i

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don't i think we're

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talking according to this i think it said that they had certain they have i

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think they have uh certain

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accounts that they knew oh we're shady yeah not shady but i mean they might be

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particular whales or

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whatever that are certain betters that always were betting you know two hundred

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thousand dollars a

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fight or whatever and maybe one or two of them changed bruce the two of the

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judges score that fight

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trying to see yeah 25 abnormal betting patterns from highly monitored accounts

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interesting highly monitored accounts is interesting bro you better get a new

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account

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figure it out they're on to you but they also said that they called sean brady

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here at the bottom i

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was going to point out so someone called him to let him know and he's like well

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i'm fine i love it he

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goes i'm gonna beat the out of this guy what are you talking about like yeah

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you're good to go i

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think that's what alexander hernandez said too that's a bummer yeah it is a bummer

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but you can also

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understand you can also understand from the ufc standpoint being like because

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it when it happened

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especially then they're like whoa whoa whoa oh yeah no they're in a bad spot

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right now with that

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because until that gets resolved the look the fight game has always been

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connected to shady people

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always that's the marlon brando movie on the waterfront i could have been a

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contender yeah you

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know yeah it's that's who he lost too oh that's right hafa garcia very good

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fight very good fight

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hafa did a phenomenal job but i but i think too back to the betting i think

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that's also a reason why

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now more than ever fighters again so much hate because if you you know you have

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a nine to five and

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you make a thousand dollars a week and you put 500 on say hamzat yeah and he

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loses that 500 that's why

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it's so toxic now because yeah your guy's losing but now it's costing you money

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so i think that's

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why fighters again so much more hate these days than they did even when i was

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fighting betting was

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oh yeah no i think you're absolutely right i think it's rafa garcia is it rafa

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or hoffa why am i saying

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it wrong i feel like it's rafa i think so too i think i want brazilian on me i

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get it yeah that you

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made a real good point about the betting because that's why people are getting

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so upset because they

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are betting money on it it's a big problem with some people with some people

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the ability

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to just bet on anything anytime you want and now it's like a polymarket and all

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these different

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things you could bet on you know fucking anything anything anything anything

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how about that soldier

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that got busted tight move he bet that maduro was gonna get kidnapped dude if

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you don't but my thing

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is it's like the pete rose thing at least pete rose is betting on his team to

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win right this dude

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was betting on his fucking team to win right don't discipline him if you don't

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think trump's giving him a

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hard in your goddamn mind well that guy's awesome that's a weird one that's a

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weird one um but i

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mean why is that bad but the insider trading in congress goes unchecked oh my

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god like that bro

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that's crazy like if you get mad at that people what a hypocrite you're also

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dealing with that guy

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special forces guy who it's not like they're compensated that great right and

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he was like oh i'm

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gonna bet the house that we fucking get this idiot right and by the way he's

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betting on himself because it

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didn't have to happen that's what i'm saying it didn't have to work they could

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have all got killed

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it's like pete rose too it's like you keep him out hall of fame i think they're

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gonna let him in now

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that he died but oh great yeah cool that helps thank you but it's also like he

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never bet against his

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team it's pretty gangster i don't know if that's true i'm pretty sure i don't

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know i read something

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online really he might have been against his team at least at one on one game i

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don't know if that's true

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i'm room for pete rose but i just read something i mean they might have been a

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pete rose hater that's

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what i thought that's what that's what that's what i mean if he only betted for

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his team i feel like

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that should be legal that's what i'm saying that's like this special forces guy

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what you're trying to

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win harder you're trying to win harder because you want money yeah that would

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be good that special

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force guy like dude you're really into this yeah he's like fuck yeah dude i got

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a million bucks right

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on this no confirmed evidence has ever been produced that pete rose bet against

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his own team

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there you go the cincinnati reds though there's some speculation all official

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speculation i must

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have read speculation um i mean what the you say person who believes pete rose

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probably bet against

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the reds at some point john dowd said but even he has acknowledged that his

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investigation did not

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produce conclusive proof of such bets so if i feel like you should be able to

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bet on yourself as a

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fighter i feel like you should be able to bet on yourself as a baseball player

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why not you're just

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betting to win now betting to lose different story different story but bet so

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if you're just saying

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is that because you can't tell them how to bet like if you're gonna let them

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bet they have to be able

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to bet on whatever they want like man i don't know if i'm winning this fight i'm

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gonna try i'm gonna try

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but i think i might lose so let me just see if i can make a little extra money

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just in case i lose

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say well i try my hardest i lost but still made some money made some money yeah

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that's good that's

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good it just opens a can of worms you don't want to deal with the problem

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nobody's been right because

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then what if you won you're like i won yeah but i lost money because i bet

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against myself like an

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idiot yeah right you made no money this fight you have to be a psycho like to

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try to win knowing

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that's going to cost you money like your whole camp paying your trainers your

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manager everything

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fucking nightmare what's like the the hamzat strickland fight you and i right

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when that fight

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got announced we text each other and i went good fight good fight i know

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everyone's gonna you know

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hamzat's a big favorite but we both went i don't know man i can see it i was i

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was nut riding for

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strickland the whole time i was like that guy is the captain of the deep water

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he knows how to go into

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deep water man and he knows how to survive he can survive and the thing about

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hamzat is if he takes

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you down he wants to hold you down and just beat on you and not not expand a

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lot of energy like you

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did with drekus that's an issue you can't do that with sean sean is not going

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to sit still he's very

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hard to hold down he's got super underrated grappling super underrated you know

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we saw he almost threw

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hamzat like later in the fight you know and he did wind up on top multiple

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times like it's

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he ain't uh easy for anybody far from it and he had a blown out shoulder boom

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that's the other

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thing everyone's like well you know hamzat was compromised because the weight

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cuts like well hold

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on sean had one on sean had one fucking arm and when he did throw that right

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hand in that second round

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he wobbled hamzat no one wants to talk about that the most significant punch

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was in the second round

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yeah he flash knocks out and hamzat's like oh and he probably fucking jolted

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his shoulder with pain

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and still defend the day noticed he was doing this at the beginning of the

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fight he before the fight

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started he was doing this with his arm so he's warming up he's doing this but

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he kept doing this

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with his right arm i'm like oh that's what i do if my shoulders hurt boom to

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see how hurt it is

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yep how's it feel feel the range yeah how's it feel and he was only going to

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here he was only going

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to here he kept doing but deadpan killer look on his face that motherfucker

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still won

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yeah here's my thing about still fought when a lot of guys would have pulled

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out a lot of guys would

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have said i can't use my arm i'm pulling out especially for that magnitude of a

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fight i think

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with strickland too now that he won people like oh is he a hall of famer one

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thousand percent 100

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100 he's a hall of famer my thing with strickland too it's like he's gonna be a

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bigger star now more

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than ever i think that fight is the one that put him even bigger the thing

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about strickland is he's the

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guy that's not supposed to be here like everyone when we talk about you know

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chechnians or dagestanians

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or wherever these war-toned countries are from and they're like this is the

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only way they made it out

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dude strickland was grew up a poor white kid in america disenfranchised dude

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had a abusive father

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the odds are so against strickland so against strickland and this motherfucker

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beat arguably the best

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strike in the weight division of all time when izzy adesanya beat him at

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striking at striking in

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australia and then they give him arguably the best grappler of all time middleweight

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division and he

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beats him so he we're all all of you listening all you guys are closer to sean

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strickland than you are

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to lebron james or patrick mahomes he's just a tough white kid who trains his

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ass off he's a blue

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collar guy he doesn't run a 40 and a 4-4 he doesn't have a 40 inch vertical he

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he got one bad leg

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from a motorcycle accident it almost ruined his whole career dude i get chills

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talking about dude he

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he's a he's the guy he's that blue collar guy through hard work is a hall of

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famer bonafide hall

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of famer and beat two of the greatest middleweights of all time and was under

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in all his fights he's an

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underdog fluffy underdog ddp underdog granted he lost but i thought he won that

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first fight uh

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hamza under massive underdog izzy massive underdog second fight with with ddp

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he the shoulder up too

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driving a dirt bike like a psychopath crazy crashed his dirt bike his shoulder

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up and they told him you

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had to fight so you had to take the fight so you had to take the fight with a

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up shoulder and if

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one of the things you notice about when he's throwing right hands in particular

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in this fight

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i noticed it was they were awkward sometimes yes sometimes they just looked

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weird like he was trying

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not to use his shoulder or something he was compromised yes 100 and i saw some

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of that in the second

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strickland the second ddp fight you know where it looked like he was kind of

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throwing his punches

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weird you know which sometimes he does anyway because he goes around the guard

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it's awkward it's

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strategic yeah he's throwing that you're not going to block correctly and then

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he's going to land you

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clean shots but when you see him when there's nothing wrong with him like he

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had this giant break

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because he punched somebody in some low-level promotion oh that's right yeah

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yeah

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he's a wild boy so they gave him like eight months suspension something like

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that six months

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suspension whatever it was um so you see him against hernandez where he's

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perfect and he looks

17:56

fucking phenomenal best i've ever seen his striking looked phenomenal

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everything looked phenomenal and

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i'm like oh god he looks like a better version of the guy who beat izzy he

18:06

looked better best we've

18:08

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you count them out

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based on that fight where you all thought homzat won a lot of people did look

19:16

it's a lot of people

19:17

that know fighting thought homzat won there's a lot i think it's split among

19:21

journalists i think i was

19:22

reading something they go easy on journalists i don't really read anything by

19:25

the way i really read the

19:27

headlines and then i move on you'll be careful with journalists i'll listen to

19:31

former fighters

19:32

it's in this or people that have been around the game a long long time if you

19:36

have homzat winning

19:38

yeah okay nobody was robbed but i can give you a pretty good argument why strickland

19:42

won that fight

19:43

yes you know i can give you a damn good i think he won the fight it was like i

19:46

was talking to him

19:47

inside the octagon before the fight said what do you think and i said it was

19:50

really close it was really

19:51

close because you really never know with judging you know we've both seen

19:55

fights where we were sure

19:57

that one guy won and the other guy gets it from the judge so you don't know so

20:01

you know in my

20:02

opinion i would have to go over and watch it again because when i call fights i'm

20:07

just calling them

20:08

it's tough i'm not really scoring them super tough it's weird because like what

20:11

you're trying to do

20:13

is make some entertainment out of moments and put some weight to it and express

20:20

maybe to people that

20:21

don't know exactly what's going on you're also listening to your other exact

20:24

partners in the booth right

20:25

well dc's great at that dc is the best at explaining to people that don't know

20:30

what's going on when it

20:31

comes to like wrestling in particular because he's such a elite wrestler and

20:34

there was a lot that was

20:35

a lot of wrestling moments in that so like that's what you're doing so you're

20:38

not really judging the

20:40

fight if you're judging you'd be silent like eddie bravo used to judge fights

20:43

unofficially for the

20:44

ufc in the early days and what eddie would do was he would write he would have

20:48

a piece of paper and

20:49

draw a line down the middle for each guy and then he would have categories

20:53

strikes land kicks landed

20:54

punches landed takedown submission attempts it would he would mark all these

20:58

different things like every time

21:00

something would happen he would mark it down and then he would also go by who

21:04

landed the

21:05

most damage and he was really good at it like he was very accurate in terms of

21:09

like i never disagreed

21:10

with him i was like that makes sense but if your intention is to score the

21:12

fight like you don't

21:13

have to be entertaining and do the commentating i can do that it's like i do

21:17

commentate for a game

21:18

bread and there's a fight fight of the night and jimmy smith is going who do

21:22

you think won i said

21:23

dude this isn't the time to ask because i was entertained by the fight we're

21:28

doing our thing

21:28

right right right i'll go home and watch i'll let you know exactly who won

21:31

right it's such a close

21:33

fight i don't know dude especially wars especially a crazy war it's so hard to

21:37

figure out who won

21:39

some some wars like like let's you know think of like what if tyra and um joshua

21:46

van had made it to

21:47

the end that's tough one that's a tough one i mean joshua van definitely did

21:51

more damage 100 which is

21:53

number one thing they are supposed to right judge it so i would judge that in

21:57

favor because we had a

21:59

conversation about the gomez fight uh who was gomez fighting um uh pat sabatini

22:09

so pat sabatini was

22:10

fighting gomez and all pat sabatini did was clinch him and try to take him down

22:14

took it down a couple

22:14

times but when they were standing up gomez pat landed a few strikes definitely

22:18

it wasn't like he was

22:19

completely outclassed on the feet but gomez landed more so i'm like okay i know

22:24

pat spent the majority of

22:25

the fight in control the majority fight clinching the majority fight working

22:29

towards the takedown but

22:30

new fights but it was unsuccessful for the most part gomez bounced back up to

22:35

his feet every time

22:36

never took any damage on the ground never got close to being submitted and then

22:39

when they stood up gomez

22:41

was the one who was going after him landing strikes i don't know if it was

22:44

enough to win though because

22:46

it's like there wasn't a lot of damage it wasn't like he hit pat and pat got

22:49

rocked and pat went down

22:51

and there was none of that but gomez was doing better in the stand-up which

22:56

when it comes to damage

22:57

that was the only damage of the fight but but the other thing you got to take

23:00

into consideration

23:01

it's like i love dc's one of my favorites but dc has an extensive wrestling

23:06

background so he's usually

23:08

gonna not that he means to but because he has such an extensive wrestling

23:12

background uh if you listen

23:14

kamar usman henry cejudo most of them will score that fight for hamzat because

23:18

of the wrestling

23:19

involved but if you talk to someone else who doesn't have a wrestling

23:22

background it's more of a

23:23

striking background most of them score it for strickland so you always gotta i

23:27

take it with a

23:27

little bit of grain of salt when those guys heavy wrestlers if there's

23:31

wrestling but they weren't

23:32

successful like takedowns were successful they're like that's a takedown like

23:35

but he didn't do

23:35

with it though there's also the strickland factor there's a lot of people that

23:41

he rubs the wrong way

23:42

boom and they don't want him to win because the wild that he says off stage

23:47

listen sometimes he goes

23:50

too far he said he went too far he apologized for going too far but god damn

23:54

did he sell some tickets

23:55

i like what you said they said don't apologize you're selling a fight yeah that's

23:58

my thing too it's

23:59

like whoa no no don't apologize don't apologize for any of that because on monday

24:04

i was so excited to

24:06

get in studio i was so excited i felt like for first time in a long time the ufc's

24:12

back i felt

24:14

back man it's like really think the ufc's gone away no no no i'm not saying

24:17

that don't get to it

24:19

i'm saying as far as like uh connor khabib like bad blood like big time couldn't

24:25

wait right like i

24:26

dude i was count i was tech day before i'm taking dude i can't wait it was like

24:30

i was so hyped for

24:32

this fight dude yeah it just felt like you know those those connor day khabib

24:36

days those are over

24:38

but this one the magnitude of it and i usually can tell when a fight's gonna be

24:42

really big because

24:43

i'm always at baseball fields and football fields and dads will come like dude

24:46

do you think strickland

24:47

has a chance i'm like you watch fighting like oh i was like this can be huge

24:53

dude this can be big dude

24:55

it was huge and it was huge because of the way sean sold it 100 not just that

25:00

sean has a ton of fans

25:01

for sure you know but it was the way he sold it the chaos people love it they

25:07

love that and especially

25:08

casuals they love the chaos i love it too i love it fun he makes things fun

25:14

makes things fun and then

25:15

people get so mad you know some stuff he says but it's like of course there's a

25:19

lane for that hate to

25:20

tell you there's a lane for that and i i think strickland you've been around

25:25

strickland he's a

25:26

good person yes he has some crazy thoughts and stuff like that which is fine

25:31

but remember too

25:32

people go yes he doesn't have stars and then you get a kid like strickland who's

25:36

building his name

25:37

it's gonna be the most watched fight one of the third most watched wayne's of

25:40

all time so he's trying

25:42

to be a star so you guys complain there's no stars and then when he's doing the

25:45

damn thing you guys are

25:46

hating on him you know so it's like pick pick your poison well they're hating

25:50

by the way he's doing it

25:52

right that he's making things super personal and but this is what connor did i

25:58

mean that's what connor

25:59

did with khabib connor crossed the line many times with khabib oh buddy the

26:03

lines here yeah it was all

26:04

the way over and there was no apologizing after that i mean that was the brawl

26:08

afterwards where khabib

26:09

you know jumped in the crowd and up dilly dan that was my favorite that's my

26:13

favorite picture of all

26:14

time i need it framing my stupid when khabib's literally flying off the cage

26:18

about the

26:19

but remember before that fight in the fight khabib was all professional he was

26:25

all good as soon as

26:27

that ended he's like yeah now it's time to get to work yeah dude that is a

26:31

crazy world world champion

26:34

just got done stopping conor mcgregor and he's leaping into the crowd just like

26:40

his nickname and super he's

26:42

the eagle yeah the eagle his talons are out for his face i mean you couldn't

26:48

come up with a better

26:49

nickname for that dude you know how dan henderson has that flying punch that he

26:53

landed on bisping when

26:54

bisping was down that's like his logo that should be khabib's logo 100 with

26:58

like rings on it like a

27:00

flying eagle fucking animal dude that was god i love that guy i love him oh we

27:06

you know we appreciated him

27:07

while he's here but maybe not enough but but with with hamzat too i also think

27:12

a couple couple of

27:14

factors that went against him uh on saturday night he's been in big fights but

27:19

he hasn't been in this

27:21

big of a fight defending the middleweight title you have this wild boy talking

27:26

so much so i i just i i

27:28

don't think he's dealt with that kind of pressure at that level and then also

27:33

hamzat's always kind of

27:35

had a cardio issue because remember when i went to his camp i called you i'm

27:40

like bro i've never seen

27:42

someone so fucking i'm talking vicious fucking everybody up destroying them i

27:47

was like oh my god

27:49

so there's an issue with him and i don't know what it is where that's not

27:53

translating inside

27:55

the octagon well i can tell you right now first of all first part of the issue

27:59

is the weight cut

28:00

100 dude he cut 22 kilos listen to me they he got 40 something pounds they were

28:07

making it so that he

28:08

was going to fight yuri prohaska 205 right so he starts bulking up and he's

28:12

eating like a fucking animal

28:14

and he's dead lifting and doing all kinds of crazy he said he was 230 i think

28:17

he was above that yeah

28:18

yeah he was somewhere north of 230 and so then he's 230 whatever and so then he's

28:23

going to drop

28:24

down to 85 which is bananas that's so hard to do he never got fat so what

28:29

happens well your muscle

28:31

gets eaten away yeah your body deteriorates you can't recover and he had a bad

28:37

breakdown in the middle of

28:38

the uh weight cut i heard his horror was here his brother today was like yes we

28:42

thought his body was

28:42

going to shut down yeah so they took an hour off weight cutting and then they

28:46

went back and he

28:47

only had like 1.2 kilos to lose at that point which is what is that was that

28:52

like five pounds

28:53

no no i mean two pounds two and a half pounds right two and a half what is it's

28:57

2.2 okay so

28:59

he was 230 a lot though if you're already dying you got to lose two pounds of

29:05

water oh it's a nightmare

29:06

two 16 ounce bottles of water when he was let's say 230 or maybe 235 how many

29:11

weeks out was that

29:12

do we know i don't know because because when strickland beat fluffy they were

29:16

like hey forget

29:17

this yuri fight you're fighting at 85 it's a few months it's a few months but

29:23

you know when you have

29:24

muscle and not fat it is a problem it's a real problem it's not the same

29:29

problem so if you get

29:31

big like strickland gets in between fights like strickland there's a lot of

29:35

videos of him training

29:36

where he's got almost like a belly yeah he's heavy and he makes fun of himself

29:39

he's fat that's a

29:41

different fat that's different to lose you can lose that you can lose that that's

29:44

not a problem to lose

29:46

when you're bulked up your body has decided that now you're 230 pounds and you're

29:51

still working out

29:52

all the time so your body's using those muscles all the time so if you want

29:55

those muscles to shrink

29:57

they literally have to eat themselves yeah so you have to fucking starve

30:00

yourself or you do a radical

30:04

dehydration which brings you to the brink of death that's what it seems like

30:08

that's what he did

30:08

probably a factor but my giant factor dude it's a factor for sure there's also

30:15

a factor but it's not

30:16

like in the ddp fight in these other fights not like he's going in there tenacious

30:20

finishing guys

30:21

well the ddp fight was uh just him in control it was just him grappling him in

30:28

control and no attempt

30:30

to finish that's my issue with him true he just wanted to secure the win i

30:33

think it's here

30:34

well it could be it could be and that also plays a factor when you're dealing

30:38

with a guy like sean who's

30:39

so durable and has such great cardio and can take the fight into deep deep

30:43

waters and always does yeah he

30:45

always he's always going after you in the final round like the final round with

30:49

izzy when he's got

30:50

his hands down he's screaming at izzy come on he looks he gets better as the

30:54

fight goes on yeah and

30:55

izzy had noticeably faded by that final round part of that because of the

30:59

beating that he took in the

31:00

first correct right he mean he got dropped too super close to stopped probably

31:04

concussed in the first

31:06

you know i mean that straight punch that he landed where he spun izzy's head

31:10

around and then hit him

31:11

with how many left hands in a row yeah 15 20 left hands in a row i mean let's

31:17

count them yeah let's

31:18

watch that and count them because it's crazy he just bang bang bang bang if you

31:23

think you're gonna go

31:24

and just fight normal after that that's not you're concussed you're compromised

31:28

probably you have a

31:30

concussion yes just by the way he went down his head spun around it was a it

31:35

was a right hand right

31:36

wasn't a right hand it was the right hand yeah and it's your perfect right hand

31:39

picture perfect

31:41

straight right i mean it was picture perfect and you don't get a cleaner better

31:46

right hand and then

31:48

blast him with all those punches in the clinch you're gone after that you're

31:52

you're a shell of

31:53

yourself you're gone i think my thing with hamza too is after again you you

31:57

could chalk it up to the

31:58

weight cut that second round when he doesn't land that take down falls to his

32:02

back i'm like oh he's

32:03

cooked dude i think we're six months into the fight and his body was shutting

32:06

down and he realized that

32:07

he went real hard in the first round but doesn't have the gas tank and said let

32:11

me coast i could

32:11

survive on the bottom here but i need to catch my breath if i'm gonna try to

32:15

finish this guy it might

32:16

have been a strategy and he got better that third fourth fifth round right

32:19

because the strategy might

32:20

have been listen if i'm on my back no big like he tries for a takedown can't

32:23

get it he realized like

32:24

oh jesus i'm not gonna be able to fight standing up like this for five minutes

32:29

after that first round

32:30

because his body almost shut down 24 hours ago 24 hours ago it is the dumbest

32:36

thing we do in the

32:37

sport where we allow these people to pretend that they weigh a certain way you

32:42

you pretend you you

32:44

oh it's a 185 pound fight the it is yeah one of those guys 100 strickland is

32:52

actually a bigger guy

32:53

than him strickland's a big boy strickland and that neither in the cage is a

32:57

bigger dude well he

32:58

definitely looked healthier yeah right and i think part of that you could

33:01

attribute to the fact that

33:02

hamzat is killing himself well what hamzat say to dana as soon as he jumped out

33:05

of the cage goes i'm

33:06

done fighting here i'm going to 205 but apparently now all he's talking about

33:09

is a rematch back on yeah

33:10

it's back on so my you know so what he's got to do love to hear is he has got

33:17

to limit his calorie intake

33:19

and he's got to literally burn the muscle off he can't just keep dehydrating

33:24

himself like that so

33:26

you'd have to talk to someone who's an expert at that but my friend cam haynes

33:30

when he runs these

33:31

ultra marathons what he does is he gets himself down like 160 pounds and the

33:36

way he does it is

33:38

he just limits his calories and keeps working out the exact same way and he

33:42

looks terrible when he does

33:43

yeah like he looks so tired all the time but it's just sheer willpower gets him

33:48

down to that weight

33:49

but that is slow running for days correct that's a different thing we can't do

33:55

that right what he's

33:56

doing is exploding and moving quickly and i my personal opinion is you have to

34:02

be biologically

34:04

healthy to do that you you have to be a healthy person you you can't just be

34:11

big right and you're

34:12

not healthy if you almost died a day ago correct because that's really what's

34:16

going on and we think

34:17

these oh these guys can recover but how much do they recover well they for sure

34:23

don't

34:23

recover a hundred percent not a hundo not that's why i'm excited for him at 205

34:27

like a lot of people

34:28

like oh i don't like them like if it's a if the weight is an issue at 205 if he's

34:33

a 100 hamza i

34:34

know he might be a little undersized but 100 hamza bro could be a lot better

34:39

than a 70 that's great

34:40

strickland ain't gonna do it he's gonna yeah you didn't make the weight the

34:44

first time 100 he's gonna

34:45

he's gonna talk mad it'll be fun he's a coward i beat him with one arm it's

34:51

gonna get crazy you got

34:52

to fight him at middleweight but he's got to go to some expert in losing weight

34:56

oh no i'm not saying

34:57

strickland hamza at 205 that no no no strickland's gonna no no strickland's

35:01

gonna stay at 85 and

35:03

dominate no hamza he's he's gonna do that rematch and then that's it he's a 205-er

35:09

well i think he's

35:10

or to your point he has to maintain a weight that's realistic and still perform

35:15

but he has to figure

35:16

that out he's got to stop lifting weights right so whatever he was doing that

35:20

got him up to 230 pounds

35:22

or whatever whatever he was we're guessing right that's what i'd heard that he

35:25

was north north of 230.

35:27

whatever he was doing he's got to not do that and he's got to do mad cardio

35:31

just just cardio like

35:33

working out like wrestling hitting a bag hitting pads and cardio i'm a big uh

35:39

proponent of

35:40

do do your sport get your cardio from your sport like i see it across the board

35:47

like i get a little

35:48

a little hesitant when i saw all these videos of hamzat you know hitting the

35:53

the tire with the hammer and

35:55

doing all these runs i'm like yeah but i'd rather you get your cardio from

35:59

actually wrestling against

36:00

top level guys and get after it dude because what's strickland do do you see

36:05

strickland doing all this

36:06

heart rate monitor no no why why is his cardio so good because he spars like a

36:10

madman

36:11

all the time so the strickland you see in that training camp is the exact same

36:15

you see in the

36:16

octagon there's no issues meanwhile you got these guys you know run their hill

36:20

sprints and do all i'd

36:21

rather you get your cardio in uh in your actual sport i see it at the the lower

36:26

level too uh with with

36:28

kids i coach football baseball these dads like i don't get it man i'm doing the

36:31

foot ladder drill

36:32

with my son five days a week can't catch football i'm like because because they're

36:36

we're not trying

36:37

to see who has the best foot ladder who can do it the fastest we're catching

36:40

footballs dude do you

36:41

think that there's balls if you want to get better at football a hundred

36:44

percent but do you think that

36:46

some of that stuff has a purpose yes but not not close to the fight interesting

36:52

because usually what

36:53

we would do is out like uh let's say you do have eight week camp before the

36:56

camp starts we're doing a

36:58

lot of that stuff and then once we get a camp where the focus was the cardio

37:01

was getting it in in your

37:03

training um you know who agrees with you aljamain sterling aljamain talked

37:07

about this he's pretty

37:08

good pretty good how good did he look against alal dude best back control in

37:15

the game so i and i

37:17

don't why is he so underrated i don't get it why he doesn't get his dues pure

37:21

young it's

37:21

crazy it's the win the victory where he had an injury from an illegal shot and

37:26

people hated on him from

37:28

then on out think think how good he did against evil i know he's amazing that

37:32

was a split decision

37:33

some people thought he won yeah yeah he could have easily won that motherfucker

37:37

so good yeah aljamain's

37:38

the man yeah um but he said that marab does the same thing now who the has

37:43

better cardio

37:44

than marab i would say nobody nobody alive ever in any sport i've ever seen

37:48

maybe that guy that broke

37:50

the whatever's four minute mile or something but as far as what yeah but he ain't

37:53

getting taken

37:54

down he's not getting punched in the face people should just go to rob's camp

37:58

like what are you

37:59

doing he's like i'm wrestling i'm fucking wrestling he does run he does run and

38:02

he does lift some

38:03

weights every now and then but he doesn't do any of that crazy garage stuff and

38:08

one of the guys that

38:09

spoke out against the garage stuff was cub swanson i shouldn't say spoke out

38:13

against it but what he did

38:14

say was that when he did that because he did some of the training lab stuff he

38:19

said he was too broken

38:20

down he said he was over trained and he said he was just too tired when he was

38:24

going into

38:24

like fight camp yeah like it's tough to recover you're doing all the other

38:28

stuff too you're you're

38:29

still boxing you're still kickboxing you're still wrestling and he said he did

38:33

badly in those fights

38:35

which is interesting because you know the marv marinovich approach was very

38:40

different with bj penn

38:41

and that was the best bj penn ever the best bj penn ever but they literally did

38:47

no fight training

38:48

what they did is all plyometrics and it's different from the stuff the training

38:52

lab stuff's doing

38:53

because the training lab stuff he's doing bicycle work and all this stuff

38:57

because that's what sam

38:58

calavita came from correct came from a cycling background what marv was having

39:02

him do was all

39:04

plyometric stuff and just build this fucking insane machine he's like bj yeah

39:09

you already know how to

39:10

fight fact you're not going to get better at fighting in eight weeks right fact

39:14

but what we can do is

39:16

gives you an unstoppable gas tank and one of the things that always bj up

39:21

earlier in his career

39:22

is that he wasn't when he was training himself or when he had you know it wasn't

39:26

him and his brother

39:27

yeah it wasn't the most different days yeah he's phenomenally talented and

39:32

freak freak and one of

39:33

the things won the world the mundials at three years in to jujitsu as a black

39:38

belt like nobody does

39:39

that that's why he's almost a bad example you know what i'm saying it's like

39:42

yeah right but what he

39:44

the problem with really talented people and i'm sure you'd probably agree with

39:48

me they tend to

39:49

not work as hard yeah right like sean although he's a world champion he's not a

39:54

guy where you see like

39:55

oh my god he is so talented like what he does is like no one can move that way

39:59

no one can do what he

40:00

does like you know there's certain guys that like that stuff is hard work hard

40:04

work so the guys that are

40:07

super talented it comes a little easier for them and sometimes they have a

40:11

harder time with the hard work

40:12

because they're not used to getting beat up they're not used to getting pressed

40:16

so when they have to do

40:17

this drill where you're rotating in new sparring partners over and you're

40:22

exhausted and when you're

40:23

doing that hell they don't like that no so some guys avoid that they just want

40:28

to be tuning guys

40:29

up spot on yeah and so those guys when they're fighting a george st pierre or

40:34

someone of a commensurate

40:35

skill level they might fade yep because that guy got there and through a

40:40

different path i mean george

40:43

although he's a phenomenal athlete one of the best wrestlers in mma ever and

40:49

didn't even come from

40:49

a wrestling background i mean george is one of the all-time greats there's not

40:54

like one thing that george

40:56

would do that would make you think like that guy's a freak athlete there's

41:00

never been anybody like him like

41:01

that no far from it to your point far from because i trained with george

41:04

forever and when we did they

41:05

would have us do some stuff like i did in the nfl like sprints and vertical and

41:09

the the agility drills

41:11

like nothing nothing crazy no but bj was bj was crazy bj is crazy bj could do

41:17

stuff where you're like

41:18

how the can you do that bk bj could jump out of a pool and and land easy you

41:24

know um bj can he has insane

41:27

flexibility like the way he moves his legs his balance is nuts there's a video

41:32

of someone trying

41:33

to take him down and they have a single and they are driving across the cage

41:38

and he's on one leg

41:39

hopping with zero fear of being taken down like but to your point like bj's

41:44

that talented john's another

41:46

one yep where it's right right exact exact perfect sure so talented so talented

41:53

and then the difference

41:54

being like john always figured out a way to win and john if he had a bad camp

42:00

for one fight he would

42:02

come back in the next fight and really put it to somebody right like the gustafson

42:07

fight first fight

42:08

with gustafson he doesn't train at all i talked to craig jackson he's like he

42:13

barely showed up at all

42:14

barely showed up in the gym and then has a five round fight war and pulls it

42:20

out in the final two

42:21

rounds it's crazy crazy gets taken down for the first time we see him get taken

42:25

down by gustafson like

42:26

oh my god gustafson might be the man and john pulls it out so the second fight

42:31

comes around and john trains

42:33

hard and john fucks him up i mean fucks him up in a way like this is what would

42:39

have happened if i tried

42:41

yeah if i prepared the way you prepared this is how it goes you get a beating

42:47

you know and

42:47

this is the dance of like who's the greatest of all time and that's why the

42:53

argument in most

42:54

people's eyes is that john is the greatest of all time because john was all

42:58

those things super talented

43:00

and when push came to shove and he he had to get back in into work and get he

43:05

would do it he would

43:06

do it and he would pull it off against dc he would pull it off the steep a

43:11

fight was i think that was

43:13

not steep a that was no that's when you like when you talk about his resume

43:17

like all right you know

43:19

steep a is the steep a that you know ran through the heavyweight division the

43:23

steep a that knocked out

43:24

alistair over him that beat fabrizio verdun for the titles beat francis when

43:29

francis was just

43:31

crushing everybody and i think that took a lot out of his chin that francis

43:36

fight i really that

43:37

changed him forever because dc knocks him out right after that and you know

43:42

wasn't the biggest punch in

43:43

the world no it was a big punch but i mean he had taken bombs from francis yeah

43:48

back to john being the

43:49

greatest of all time it's like when you look at his resume it's just like it's

43:52

phenomenal wow phenomenal

43:54

youngest ever ufc champion crazy but as far as like uh other than josh barnett

43:58

did josh

43:59

barnett win it earlier no i think john's the youngest john's the youngest and josh

44:03

that was

44:03

the youngest and joshua van second now right so josh josh barnett won the heavyweight

44:07

title what 24

44:09

yep and those boys were well it didn't they strip him for steroids when

44:13

everyone was doing steroids that is

44:16

it's like when wwe guys get busted you're like oh come on like you ain't

44:20

testing everybody you just

44:22

don't like josh the way to get him out i love josh it's a way to get him out

44:26

but yeah back to john

44:28

it's like you look at his resume grace to ever do it yeah beat the very best in

44:32

murderers row murderers

44:33

row yeah now you know it's not not even comparable to today's light heavyweight

44:37

and heavyweight but

44:38

then you don't think so no well listen close when alex especially at heavyweight

44:43

when alex was the

44:44

light heavyweight champion it's certainly comparable alex as the light heavyweight

44:49

champion the alex that

44:49

beat magomedov the alex that knocked out yuri prohaska the alex that starches

44:54

everybody that

44:55

up jamal hill like that alex perera and john jones in his prime would have been

45:01

insane that would

45:02

have been insane oh man tough to beat the wrestling of john like john's

45:06

wrestling was on a totally different

45:08

level his iq his iq would be tough what could he do to sheryl gone crazy i mean

45:12

he avoided the shots

45:14

he's read him like a book bullied him bullied him got all of his neck and like

45:19

i'll take that but dude if

45:20

you if you if you go back and look at john is my fighting years too you look at

45:24

that light heavyweight

45:25

division one through 15 good luck that's especially heavyweight true but good

45:30

luck but at light heavyweight

45:32

okay so not a lot of those guys are ranked in the top 10. how do you think yuri

45:37

how well let's let's

45:38

think of alex how do you think alex would have done against gustafson very

45:41

tough fight for him you

45:43

think so gustafson in his prime yeah you think so yeah and do you think that

45:48

based on the to share a fight

45:50

because he pieced up glover remember that fight yeah that was a video game

45:53

combination he knocked out

45:55

alex is one of those guys similar dc that when john just reigned as champ it's

46:01

like if if alex was

46:02

just born at a different time maybe five years before five years after he's our

46:07

john jones he was so

46:09

fucking talented huge six six six seven great wrestling great world-class

46:14

boxing good at everything

46:16

dude great card in the division with the goat you're fucked yeah yeah your mom

46:20

and dad did have us did

46:21

decide to have sex same time john and his parents did look at look at what

46:25

happened with ilia taporia

46:27

think about the guys that he's fighting think about max holloway think about

46:31

charles olivera think about

46:33

alexander volkanovski and he has blast all of them into orbit all three of them

46:38

first guy ever to stop max

46:40

it's like you if you're in that guy's division what are you going to do

46:46

especially at 45 i don't

46:48

know what it's going to be like at 55 obviously the olivera fight was a one

46:51

punch knockout but

46:52

that was such a bad knockout crazy knockout but when you see him and justin

46:55

next to each other like

46:56

whoa justin is quite a bit bigger just a big cat he's quite a bit bigger like

47:00

that's a tough fight it's

47:03

it's a different fight than olivera it's different but but then you see what olivera

47:09

was able to do

47:10

to max you're like good lord like olivera is a beast phenomenal and he couldn't

47:15

do none of that to ilia

47:17

yeah the only thing with all that is like the the 55 division everyone's no one's

47:22

in the prime

47:23

like charles is in his prime when i'll beat him justin's definitely not his

47:27

prime max is in his prime

47:28

they're all good they're good but not prime prime right and the issue is is ilia

47:33

is

47:33

just getting to his prime just getting to his prime urging and already one of

47:39

the greatest of all

47:41

time he's a problem yeah he's so smart and so disciplined and so like

47:46

completely focused and dialed

47:48

in great at everything great at everything great at everything and the crazy

47:51

thing is didn't even start as a

47:53

striker started as a grappler crazy now his toughest matchup is armin sarukin

47:58

that's the

47:59

motherfucking fight hundred percent oh that but that's what that's what i was

48:02

gonna say with with

48:03

hamzat he's not active i know i'm jumping around a little bit but with hamzat

48:07

he i think one of his

48:08

issues with whatever's going on inside that hot gun weight cut 100 clearly

48:13

there seems to be a mental

48:14

block when it comes to finishing fights because he's worried about gassing out

48:17

raf do take a game

48:21

page out of fucking sarukin's book just wrestle all the sarukin i think he's

48:25

wrestled like eight

48:26

times this fucking year just fucking dudes up making all the money he makes six

48:30

figures every time he

48:31

fucks somebody up but he's active he's staying active staying in shape

48:35

competing competing and the

48:36

ufc's going yeah go ahead and do it yeah so for hamzat yeah dude because he

48:39

fights once a

48:40

fucking year which is not good dude right so it's like stay active over there

48:44

stay active like like

48:46

armin sarukin's doing keep your weight down yeah i don't know if he's

48:49

interested in doing that i signed

48:50

with him yeah but what was the fight that they signed that he was gonna he was

48:54

gonna wrestle somebody

48:55

who was it do you remember uh i think they want to toss him like an olympian

48:59

which i which is it

49:00

that's where it gets dicey yeah here's my fear there was a recent event there

49:04

was a very weird event

49:05

i don't know who did it but it was uh kicks to the leg punches to the body and

49:11

jujitsu have you seen

49:12

that no get the fuck out of my face it was weird yeah so glace and t bow was

49:17

fighting uh i apologize

49:18

i don't remember who he was fighting and he takes this guy down and the guy

49:22

catches you know he's trying

49:23

to avoid the takedown he catches his knee in a weird way and it blows out so

49:27

that could happen to

49:29

fucking anybody wrestling is a little safer though i don't know about that

49:33

because this was in the

49:34

wrestling exchange that he took him down yeah but those those guys aren't

49:38

exactly like high level

49:39

wrestlers true you know like you're like the raf has it's top tier oh yeah no

49:43

doubt so good no doubt

49:45

it's so good wrestlers blow their knees out all the time true it's just a part

49:49

of the craziness of

49:51

explosive movement and a guy is coming after you and it's kind of what you sign

49:55

up for so for a

49:56

sunset it's like dude we can't fight fucking once a year and then you have

49:59

weight issues and clearly

50:01

there seems to be a mental block and you're getting finishes because your

50:04

cardio let's do raf

50:06

let's get this rolling keeps your weight down keeps you active also keeps you

50:09

in the limelight

50:10

like armin has blown the up dude true he's a massive star now true um

50:16

especially online i don't

50:17

know how much that translates to it's a great general public that's great dorks

50:21

like us dorks like us

50:23

fucking point we are some of riding his nuts he beat giorgio twice it's such a

50:28

good point uh is it

50:30

lance palmer the wrestler that he tech falled which is nuts nuts uri faber yeah

50:35

threw over the

50:36

fucking thing that was crazy why'd you do that what if you both got hurt what

50:39

if you hurt he's a bit

50:40

of a main head well he's a psychopath yeah he's a full-on psychopath i mean he's

50:44

rich dude he's so rich

50:46

literally wealthy do you see him on that stream they go so like if you want to

50:51

like buy a car like

50:52

500 000 car what do you do he goes i just call my dad yeah his dad's like a

50:56

billionaire he's got tons

50:58

of money but he's not savage lazy at all no he's like he flies in the face of

51:04

this like long-standing

51:06

belief that we all had that if you come from a rich family you can't be a great

51:10

fighter dude he's batman it

51:11

it doesn't matter if he came you come from the ghetto he's gonna you up he does

51:15

not give a

51:15

like you some dude's like i'm from the favelas you know i did like good luck

51:19

cool man good luck with

51:20

that armenian psychopath yeah he's pulling up in a maybox yeah caviar he gets

51:25

he pulls into la i

51:26

watch his uh youtube videos he's trained you know shows him training and all

51:30

the different stuff he does

51:31

he he when he lands in la he goes immediately to exotic rental car place and

51:36

rents a lamborghini

51:38

and drives it to the training lab it's not the way it's supposed to work but he

51:42

pulls it off bro good

51:44

luck with that guy good luck with that guy go ahead and make fun of him for

51:46

being like a greek god yeah

51:48

can wrestle like a elite top tier wrestler and he can strike and he can submit

51:54

you good luck and he's

51:56

angry because he he's denied a shot at the title because he hurt his back when

52:00

he was getting ready

52:01

to fight ilia which is the best thing that ever happened to him you think so

52:04

yeah because look how

52:06

much because he we were dorks and we knew who he was but the general like

52:11

especially online no one his

52:13

profile's so big now i think it's just with dorks i mean i think but those dorks

52:19

the equal sponsorship

52:20

yeah money well here's the deal there's only one compelling fight look at the

52:25

build on this cat

52:27

that is not a guy that grew up with a billionaire dad who could just go buy a

52:31

lamborghini with his

52:33

credit card if he wants to he's bruce wayne but his parents are still alive it's

52:36

not there's no reason

52:37

to be upset well i'll tell you what armenians look at the shut the up man just

52:42

shut up great body

52:43

that's ridiculous great body that makes me want to just quit and eat potatoes

52:47

all day

52:48

or get you in that kind of shape i'm kidding yeah yeah or just get get ripped

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but it's like he's the compelling matchup for ilia if ilia gets past justin if

54:11

justin beats ilia it

54:12

is not only one of the greatest upsets of all time it is one of the greatest

54:16

caps to a career of all

54:18

time like if he all through what he's been through wins the interim title wins

54:23

the bmf title if he does

54:25

that and caps his career off you go fuck yeah dude way to go out brother if he

54:30

beats ilia to perette

54:32

ufc freedom 250 in front of donald trump he's the only american that gets the

54:37

belt it's bigger it's

54:38

beyond just mma ufc yeah miracle on ice fuck off this is imagine the headlines

54:46

yes and if he beats that

54:47

guy bro in his prime who's knocking everyone into the shadow realm he says to

54:53

charles olivera i'm sorry

54:55

it has to be you has a celebration party the night before the fight at a party

55:01

at a party was drinking

55:03

wine and shit no he wasn't was he yeah pretty sure he's drinking mine no i

55:06

think it was water no i'm

55:08

pretty sure he's drinking wine imagine that fucking psychopath and he gets

55:12

starched yeah and he's got

55:14

that beautiful fucking spanish accent yeah dude just checks all boxes checks

55:18

all the boxes it's such

55:20

a tough fight for justin but i'm rooting for justin i love both of them but

55:23

just for the sheer fact of

55:25

again i like chaos and at that in front of the weird elites watching the fight

55:29

you don't know what the

55:30

fuck's going on it's gonna be great if justin pulls it off yeah if justin pulls

55:35

it off it'd be

55:36

one of the greatest upsets of all time one of the greatest victories of all

55:38

time and if he does

55:39

just retire taporia plans to celebrate before the gaichi clash at the white

55:44

house of course he's

55:45

going to celebrate whatever he's doing that's his move whatever he does he's

55:48

doing it again massive

55:49

celebration dinner the night before his lightweight belt we're going to

55:52

celebrate before the fight

55:53

actually we have everything organized my team has already taken care of that

55:56

that's some mind and a half when you're in your hotel room you know and you're

56:02

just scrolling on

56:03

instagram thinking about 24 hours from now you're going to be fighting and you're

56:07

like what's

56:07

what's this doing oh he's standing on top of a table dancing that's how that's

56:13

how sure he is he's

56:13

gonna beat the out of you he's eating spaghetti and doing a salsa dance like

56:19

what the

56:20

are you talking about man yeah and when did you see when all the fighters are

56:23

at the white house

56:24

trump's like i thought you liked this guy yeah you're like oh because why would

56:28

you give your

56:28

friend his toughest test yeah yeah well for gaichi that's the last fight i mean

56:33

if this is really

56:34

going to be his last fight that is the last fight and it's smart it's smart

56:38

because that that patty

56:40

fight is you know entertaining fight for the casuals as far as technical wise

56:45

it was so sloppy man it

56:47

was just so sloppy well justin told me that that's what he wanted to do which

56:50

he should do he just

56:51

wanted to just go you and just come at him and just throw caution to the wind

56:56

and just almost fight

56:58

like he did like back in the pfl days uh world series of fighting that's what

57:01

it was yeah right

57:02

yeah that's right that's exactly what he should be doing and that's exactly

57:05

what he should have

57:06

done and then for patty it was it was a sloppy fight but he got the job done

57:09

but you can tell like

57:10

and it's all good this isn't a knock on justin all the years all the wars one

57:15

of the greatest careers

57:16

we've ever seen it catches up with you 100 it has to and now here's ilia taporia

57:21

but again i i bet

57:24

justin wouldn't have it any other way you have an opportunity to pull off one

57:27

of the biggest if not

57:28

the biggest upset we've ever seen and trevor whitman fucking white house the um

57:32

justin has an awesome

57:34

series uh the art of violence i think it's called it's on uh youtube and it's

57:38

all talking about him

57:40

preparing it's all videos of him training and trevor whitman's in it and trevor

57:44

was saying we love being

57:45

the underdog we love it and he talked about being the underdog with rose nama

57:48

unis when she beat

57:49

um uh yoana yojacek sure when she beat young way lee same thing like that they

57:55

love being the underdog

57:56

in those situations like stopping way lee was nuts crazy you know that she was

58:00

the underdog head kicks

58:02

her yep crazy and that this is a little different but i hear you it is

58:05

different it's different but it is

58:08

it's similar in ways the zhong waylee is because zhong is everybody scary there's

58:16

no one like her the

58:17

physicality of her at straw weight she was a monster like her training was

58:22

bananas crazy i'd watch her

58:24

training i'd go good lord who's gonna beat her she's like shoulders and shit

58:27

but the way she trained she

58:29

trains like a dude yeah like an angry dude you know what i mean like women

58:32

haircut to show it's not and it's

58:35

not a knock on the way women train no i'm not saying that i'm saying like the

58:41

ferocity was like she's

58:42

filled with testosterone like she's trying to kill somebody probably is joe she

58:48

might be it might be

58:50

natural it might have slipped something into her noodles did you see that one

58:55

fighter who got busted

58:58

and she goes oh man yeah i was uh i took my husband's vitamins and just have p

59:02

steroids yeah my husband

59:04

she threw her husband under the bus for taking steroids he up is he an active

59:08

fighter i don't

59:09

i don't think so is he james no he's probably just some meathead he's like yeah

59:12

i guess i hope so

59:13

yeah me too because if he's an active fighter he'd be like what the fuck now we're

59:17

both

59:17

yeah yeah say somebody gave you the wrong thing yeah but back to whaley and uh

59:22

and rose the the

59:24

difference with that is rose was still pretty in her prime there yes 100 that's

59:29

that's a good point

59:30

that's a good point real good point um justin's not in his prime but damn he

59:33

didn't look like he

59:34

lost a step in the patty pimple fight he looked like he just was just being an

59:39

animal and pimple it's

59:40

that's good man you see what pimple did to bobby green and granted bobby green's

59:45

not quite at the

59:46

same level although he looked sensational he looked good against jeremy stevens

59:51

he keeps doing the

59:51

damn thing but also that style is so fun talking pointing at you man so far my

59:57

face so fun how

59:58

about at the end of the fight when i'm interviewing him he's like come walk

1:00:01

with me and he takes me

1:00:03

over to daddy's joe data yeah he wants that bonus they've never given a bonus

1:00:07

he was just talking

1:00:08

about he's one of the most exciting fighters that's ever done it he's awesome i'm

1:00:11

like everybody knows

1:00:12

that he's like why i didn't get my bonus yeah but i'm kind of with dana on the

1:00:16

bonus dana goes

1:00:18

well we do it also your strength of your opponent like zell huber was good dude

1:00:24

he beat zell huber

1:00:25

in his last fight and stopped him that was fight he should have got it for that

1:00:29

one that's what he was

1:00:30

talking about well but for this last fight right for his last fight you know he

1:00:34

fought jeremy stevens

1:00:35

great fight great fighter but you know uh compared to like the other guys on

1:00:40

the card yeah that's why

1:00:41

dan is like well well no but he was complaining about not getting a bonus in

1:00:45

his last fight that's

1:00:47

why he wanted a bonus in this fight he was saying because i even asked him i go

1:00:50

you didn't get a

1:00:51

bonus for zell huber fight he got 25k right because i didn't they change them

1:00:55

if you get a finish no

1:00:56

matter what you get but he wanted the big boy the big boy bonus yeah yeah i'd

1:01:00

hate i hate all of it

1:01:01

i hate people that have to ask for bonuses you know look the money is there

1:01:07

right we know the money's

1:01:07

there like this is a seven billion dollar deal i'm not a businessman i'll say

1:01:12

that right now if i was

1:01:14

running the ufc the stockholders they would fucking kick me out yeah

1:01:17

shareholders would have me fired yeah

1:01:19

i wouldn't you don't like affliction yeah you don't want that you don't want me

1:01:23

running no the ufc

1:01:25

because i treat it like i was a communist i'm also yeah me too i'm also a

1:01:27

little more careful

1:01:28

the way i talk about it too because i don't know their books i don't know how

1:01:32

to run a giant

1:01:32

company like that i assume with 7.7 billion dollars i'm like man i feel like we

1:01:37

could give some over

1:01:38

here but then if you talk to somebody in the know they're like oh do you well

1:01:42

look at this

1:01:42

motherfucker i'm like oh my bad okay now this is not a knock on re emmanuel but

1:01:46

it was reported that

1:01:47

he made 67 million dollars last year they worked very hard i'm sure he did but

1:01:51

that was from the ufc

1:01:53

from tko right that was his payout and he he's got a bunch of other things

1:01:56

going on he's a very

1:01:57

successful guy but is he the reason they sold for 7.7 billion dollars he's a

1:02:02

big part probably a big

1:02:03

one hundred percent and the big and also he took the big chance in purchasing

1:02:06

it for two billion dollars

1:02:08

which was a big deal you know the whole thing is like this is why you're in

1:02:11

business um i think

1:02:14

fighting is different than any other business and the reason why i say this and

1:02:20

you could speak to

1:02:21

this more than anybody you are putting your health on the line in a way that is

1:02:26

not required in any

1:02:27

other business other than maybe football and boxing and kickboxing you're

1:02:31

putting your health on the line

1:02:33

in a way that's different than any other business you are the only thing that

1:02:37

people are tuning in

1:02:38

for there's without the fighters there is no ufc it doesn't exist correct it is

1:02:44

the entire product

1:02:46

the the thing you're selling is entirely fighters and it's fighters that

1:02:52

operate for a short window

1:02:55

of their prime they have 10 years or whatever they have and and when they get

1:03:00

out you know we've all

1:03:01

talked about guys that are mumbling now you can't understand what the they say

1:03:05

you see like ticks that

1:03:06

they have and guys who have neurological problems memory problems it's real so

1:03:12

i don't think we should

1:03:14

think of it like any other business because the entire business model is these

1:03:19

guys bodies and the

1:03:21

consequence is their health and it's for the rest of their life and so if you're

1:03:25

doing something that

1:03:26

is is generating a significant amount of money for a very short amount of time

1:03:31

i think you should get a

1:03:32

lot of money for that if you're one of those people the amount of money that is

1:03:38

left over for the other

1:03:39

people the people that are making the money that put the money in they should

1:03:43

still get a lot of money

1:03:44

which is why they did it in the first place but i don't think the balance is

1:03:48

correct now i am biased

1:03:51

right because again i'm not a businessman but i have a deep empathy for people

1:03:56

who put themselves in

1:03:58

front of harm and and try to chase that glory for our entertainment for the

1:04:04

sport that we love

1:04:05

and i i think they should be compensated more yeah i don't i don't think you're

1:04:10

i mean obviously we're

1:04:11

biased because we love fighters and i was a fighter it's not even about being

1:04:14

biased it's it's just

1:04:15

fairness it's fairness it's fairness in the marketplace and well the thing is

1:04:20

it's such a dicey thing i know

1:04:23

people hate when i bring up fighter talk and i get sick of it too because i don't

1:04:30

know what you can

1:04:32

really do because i i simple well i go is it though because here's the thing

1:04:36

people will go okay they

1:04:39

made 7.7 billion here's here's their overhead we don't know what's going on but

1:04:42

it's like if

1:04:44

the ufc is the only the only sports combat sports promotion to ever make money

1:04:53

ever right nobody

1:04:55

else has ever done it better or made profit so my thing is like is this is this

1:05:01

what it is this just

1:05:02

what it is and i know some people like you're such an idiot they have this

1:05:05

leftover money i i hear you

1:05:07

but i'm saying is there's pfl bellator affliction world series we can go

1:05:11

through the list one

1:05:13

championship none of them are around someone like their last leg no one's ever

1:05:18

been able to sustain

1:05:20

it so all i'm and i'm not saying we don't deserve more money all i'm saying is

1:05:25

is this just how it

1:05:26

goes in the fight business i don't know i'm not businessman i know people are

1:05:29

yelling right now you're

1:05:30

fucking it i'm just saying i don't think it's is fighting different where hey

1:05:35

man that's just

1:05:36

it's not the nfl it's not the nba it's not mlb in order for us to continue this

1:05:42

rise

1:05:43

this is what it is it's 18 to the fighters i i don't know joe okay well that's

1:05:48

what i'm saying i

1:05:49

don't good points first of all let's just give the ufc its flowers because

1:05:53

without i love the kids say

1:05:54

that these days give it give flowers yeah good saying have your daughter

1:05:57

started using buns yet

1:05:59

oh yeah they use that yeah i just found it my my son's bad buns is bad yeah i

1:06:03

didn't know i got

1:06:04

a new truck my son's like everything's buns i'm like is that good what's that

1:06:06

it's ass yeah i know but

1:06:08

buns are always like cute buns yeah i know yeah we're young jamie yeah jamie

1:06:15

but what were you saying um

1:06:17

the ufc is the greatest organization in combat sports history period there's

1:06:21

nothing even close

1:06:22

the product is so much better than any boxing promotion and my friends that i've

1:06:26

brought to the

1:06:27

ufc that are boxing fans like my friend josh dubin he was like the production's

1:06:32

incredible he goes it's

1:06:34

so much more exciting than any boxing event it's so much better that is 100

1:06:39

true they've also been a

1:06:40

consolidated organization forever right i mean it was a different owner was bob

1:06:46

myrowitz back in the

1:06:47

day in 97 when i worked for them but from 2021 on so for the last 25 years it's

1:06:56

been zufa

1:06:57

right they sold zufa now zufa is sold sold to ari emmanuel tko and but the same

1:07:03

people are running

1:07:04

it right it's still dana white it's still all these people behind the scenes

1:07:07

that's another

1:07:08

conversation with yeah it's still anik it's still me and dc and michael bisping

1:07:13

and all the other

1:07:13

people that are doing commentary and and you know dominic cruz and paul felder

1:07:18

and laura senko

1:07:19

it's still the the team's the same the team behind the scenes is the same it's

1:07:23

so polished there's

1:07:25

never a problem when i show up at the ufc everything's so smooth you go and say

1:07:30

hi to everybody

1:07:31

i show my badge to the fucking security people i say hi we sit down everything

1:07:36

is smooth we got a hit in

1:07:37

five minutes okay great everybody's there the sound guy's on point well

1:07:42

everything is on point it's

1:07:44

so easy i've been close and it's like the production in the truck is so good

1:07:50

they always have the right

1:07:51

angle giordano is always on the case when it comes to like getting the right

1:07:54

angle for a submission or

1:07:56

getting the right angle for replays if i ask for something i got it right away

1:08:00

like like i'll push the

1:08:01

button you know let me hear his corner yeah because it's boom they're right on

1:08:05

it it's they're the best high

1:08:06

level they're the best the best and you notice that when you see other

1:08:09

promotions it's like the other

1:08:10

promotions the camera works on is good it's like things are good it's the

1:08:15

machine is so good and it's

1:08:17

become like the nfl like i know the xfl exists i've never even heard of a game

1:08:22

i've never even heard of

1:08:23

a game name one player no one's even brought up a game that's gonna happen

1:08:26

never i know it's a thing

1:08:27

never and the problem with casuals that's the same with the pfl even though the

1:08:32

pfl's got really good

1:08:33

fighters there's really good fighters in the pfl far cry from the ufc but yeah

1:08:37

some of them are really

1:08:38

good man that cat that just knocked out henna farrar the guy who's the um the

1:08:43

heavyweight that is uh

1:08:44

fedor's protege oh yeah yeah the russian cat bro he's good bro he's good in the

1:08:49

ufc's

1:08:50

shallow ass heavyweight division we could use that we could use them i'd like

1:08:53

to show up at that dude's

1:08:54

hotel room with a briefcase for all money like let's go dog but but yeah my

1:09:00

thing with the ufc

1:09:02

and when you talk about the staff and you got to give them their flowers they're

1:09:04

the only one that's

1:09:05

figured it out they're the best by the best organization by far and they

1:09:08

deserve to be rich

1:09:10

because of that they've made an incredible product but so do the fighters

1:09:13

though i think your product is

1:09:16

entirely dependent on the fighters now this is my position with my comedy club

1:09:22

so my comedy club

1:09:23

pays different than every comedy club the fighter the fighters the comedians

1:09:28

make most of the money

1:09:29

when it comes to the door that's how it should be but let me ask you this joe

1:09:32

and if it's too much

1:09:33

right dude get the fuck out of it but but is your is the mothership compared to

1:09:37

the comedy store the

1:09:40

improv are you guys crushing them it's doing really well i mean the comedy

1:09:44

store is always going to be

1:09:45

one of the great clubs on earth it's a legendary club it's dependent upon who's

1:09:50

there the difference

1:09:51

between the way the comedy store does it and the way we do it is that we bring

1:09:55

in national headliners for

1:09:56

the weekend like the weekend it might be dave attell yeah this week is tony

1:10:00

rock is there another club

1:10:01

that does that is there because it's a little different because you have your

1:10:03

regulars is there

1:10:04

another club that does that sure most clubs do that for the weekends but the

1:10:07

thing is they don't

1:10:08

have the same lineup for the weekdays yeah it's the weekdays we've got shane gillis

1:10:12

ron white tony

1:10:13

hinchcliffe kill tony's there every monday it's a different that's what i'm

1:10:17

saying is there anybody

1:10:18

doing that because you the comics have to be this is my whole point is what

1:10:21

however you run your

1:10:22

business it's like is is the model where you're doing it where the comics are

1:10:26

making the majority of the

1:10:27

money is that a sustainable business 100 it makes money if if we take it if we

1:10:32

take joe rogan out

1:10:34

of it and you and some dude want to start a club and did the same thing is that

1:10:37

going to be

1:10:38

profitable no you have to have the talent but that's the difference it's like

1:10:41

the thing with the pfl

1:10:42

versus the ufc you have to have the talent right and the reason why our club

1:10:46

works is because

1:10:47

everything look it's pure luck it's pure luck everything had a lineup we had to

1:10:53

hit every green light

1:10:56

it had to covet had to happen the comedy store had to get shut down all the

1:11:00

employees from the

1:11:00

comedy store had to get fired we had to not be able to do stand up in la i had

1:11:06

to be worried about

1:11:07

my family and like the the crime and the the riots and then the coveted with

1:11:13

everyone was wearing a mask

1:11:14

i was like this is bananas and then moving to to texas or just visiting texas

1:11:18

but you got to give

1:11:18

yourself credit like yeah yeah yeah but you were also the guy that had the idea

1:11:23

to do it yeah most people

1:11:24

wouldn't pull that trigger you didn't have to do that that is true but it's all

1:11:28

lot of luck because

1:11:28

it had to happen at the right time it had to happen at a time in my career

1:11:31

where i had a lot of money

1:11:33

you know so it happened it had to happen when the spotify deal took place so i

1:11:36

had all this money

1:11:37

yeah and then it all had a lineup where i was already the number one podcast in

1:11:41

the world so i could

1:11:42

easily get people because of you joe i understand but it had the line humble no

1:11:47

no it's i'm just being

1:11:49

honest like it had a line up so i couldn't have done it on my own i had to come

1:11:55

here and ron white was

1:11:57

already here so ron white's a big reason one of the club i mean he's one of the

1:12:00

main reasons why i

1:12:01

moved now i know because it was like yeah even if i'd ever do comedy again and

1:12:04

i was really wondering if

1:12:05

we're ever going to do comedy again ron's here i'll hang out with ron we'll

1:12:09

have laughs yeah so when i

1:12:10

moved here and then all sudden tony moved here and then tom segura moved here

1:12:13

and brian simpson moved here and

1:12:15

asan moved here and brian and derek posted moved here and it was like oh we got

1:12:19

something cooking

1:12:20

and then tim dylan came here and then it was like oh my god and then duncan trussell

1:12:23

moved here i was

1:12:24

like holy well they're moving because you're here i understand but they have a

1:12:28

mothership right but

1:12:29

they had to do it before the mothership even opened take a shot right they all

1:12:33

moved before the

1:12:34

mothership opened shane moved after the mothership opened but they all came in

1:12:40

early and trusted me yes

1:12:41

and so i was like okay these guys i i owe them what they took a chance with

1:12:48

their future i have to

1:12:50

throw everything into this and all together we'll do it yeah so it's our club

1:12:54

it's really our club but

1:12:56

it had to happen in a way where i had this disposable money i had disposable

1:13:01

income where i could do it and

1:13:03

it wouldn't hurt me yeah and then i could set it up in a way where the comics

1:13:06

make so much money so that way

1:13:08

you encourage people to stay so there's so many people that are there all week

1:13:12

long during the week

1:13:13

they don't have to go do shows other places they can make money at their home

1:13:16

club you're doing it

1:13:17

right i guess my example like can the ufc do that because because my example

1:13:21

for you it's like can these

1:13:22

other comic clubs do that and sustain and grow and have money and they could in

1:13:26

new york and they might be

1:13:27

able to do it in l.a so i don't think you could do it in l.a right now because

1:13:32

the store is open and the

1:13:33

store is always going to be the premier club in the world it's always legendary

1:13:37

so it's on sunset's trip

1:13:38

even though l.a's falling apart it's still the legendary destination for stand-up

1:13:43

comedy it's

1:13:44

one of the main reasons why i was excited to move to l.a it was mecca it was

1:13:47

when i was a a beginner

1:13:49

and an open miker in 1988 they would talk about the store like it was mecca

1:13:53

like you had to go to the

1:13:54

store they still do though i don't think that's ever gone away of course it's

1:13:58

you know the store comes and

1:14:00

goes in cycles like it always does it always goes in cycles depending on who's

1:14:04

in town who's there

1:14:06

it's a very it's all comedy clubs are dependent upon what talent is in town

1:14:09

during the weekdays and if

1:14:11

you don't bring in talent on the weekends that's the difference like so the

1:14:15

store doesn't bring in

1:14:16

headliners for the weekend like the way our club does i i told um scott scott

1:14:21

shore i was like i think

1:14:23

no no it was peter i'm sorry i told peter shore i was like i think you guys

1:14:27

should do that i think you

1:14:28

should like but do they have to though because you can still go on a saturday

1:14:31

night and you'll see

1:14:32

you know yes big names you will big names but you could have those people there

1:14:37

still as well

1:14:38

like they could also do shows with that person and you have two other rooms and

1:14:41

that's what you

1:14:42

guys you have the or and you have the belly room you have three rooms in one

1:14:46

location like you could

1:14:47

still have the or filled with top talent because they don't give a where they're

1:14:51

performing in the big

1:14:52

stage or the little stage in fact most of us prefer the little stage the or is

1:14:57

an amazing room yeah

1:14:58

but the thing is it's like you have to have enough talent in town and a lot of

1:15:02

people moved out of

1:15:03

la a lot of people yeah joey diaz moved out of la like a lot of people moved

1:15:08

out of theo moved out

1:15:10

a lot of people moved out so the problem is you would have to have enough

1:15:14

talent there and then you'd have

1:15:16

to have talent that was there all the time like us like we're we're at the club

1:15:20

all the time i think

1:15:22

and going back to if the ufc could do this like they're profiting so much now

1:15:27

there's no reason

1:15:28

to that's the other issue this is the problem do you want to hear my idea

1:15:32

though rational you want

1:15:33

to hear my idea yeah and you might be like you're out of your mind okay and it's

1:15:36

and again i'm not

1:15:38

anti you nothing you cut my wrist right now bob o'reilly spills out i believe

1:15:42

it made my entire

1:15:43

career yeah when that paramount deal was announced and i'm a wild boy when that

1:15:49

paramount deal was

1:15:50

announced what i would have done is and this is the issue why things will never

1:15:55

change i would have

1:15:56

talked to all the managers all the fighters and said we're not fighting another

1:16:01

fight they just signed

1:16:01

this huge deal 7.7 million if you guys want to get your equal share nobody's

1:16:07

agreeing to a fight bout

1:16:08

to a fight card unless we get i don't know someone's gonna figure out 30 so it's

1:16:14

18 right now if we go

1:16:15

up 30 which they're still gonna have profit if they agree to that then we'll

1:16:20

fight but they there's no

1:16:21

deal if we don't fight right those days are over now so you miss the mark now

1:16:25

you're gonna say yeah

1:16:26

but they can get other guys to do that and i'm saying across the board we all

1:16:31

agree as fighters

1:16:32

we're not gonna move an inch if you can get fighters to agree to that it would

1:16:38

work that's the problem

1:16:39

it'll never happen not in a million years that was my idea then here's the

1:16:42

other thought that

1:16:43

dana white has this thought about fighters that when they get paid too much and

1:16:49

they get rich

1:16:50

their careers end earlier but that's that's the other armand sarukian and he's

1:16:54

right yeah and he's

1:16:55

right well there's arman who's yeah bruce wayne but for the most part he's

1:16:59

right go go through

1:17:00

anybody's career he's kind of right he's kind of right but it doesn't matter

1:17:03

that's on them yeah

1:17:05

agree that's on them yeah that's fair yeah i mean he's right but you can't

1:17:09

protect them for unless

1:17:11

you have a bonus that you're going to pay them out when they retire and they're

1:17:14

not going to do

1:17:15

that but the other thing i think sean shelby said this uh it might have been mcmainyard

1:17:19

one of

1:17:19

them was like the other issue we have is when guys get paid a lot and then we

1:17:24

offer them fights we're not

1:17:25

fighting the fights we want to make once once they have that goose egg like i'm

1:17:28

not fighting that

1:17:29

fucking guy yeah i know but again you can't base it off of that because i'm

1:17:34

sure there's some guys

1:17:35

who will do it yeah and you with them but it's not a reason not to pay him

1:17:39

listen it's all this is

1:17:43

hippie talk but i feel like if i would if i was oh if i owned the ufc i would

1:17:50

not feel good if people

1:17:52

didn't feel compensated correctly this is just my feeling and i'm not a good

1:17:58

businessman if you want

1:18:00

to be a good businessman you got to make the most money possible i don't know

1:18:03

joe you've done pretty

1:18:03

fucking well bubba a lot of luck a lot of luck you gotta quit saying luck you're

1:18:07

driving me nuts

1:18:08

no but it's a lot of you work harder than anybody else well i work hard when i

1:18:12

listen i i stick with

1:18:14

things and i have a good work ethic that is true but that's half the battle

1:18:18

yeah yeah but i'm not

1:18:19

like a businessman in the sense of like if i was running a business like that i

1:18:23

wouldn't treat it the

1:18:24

same way i wouldn't say i'm trying to make the most money possible i would say

1:18:28

i got money and let's just

1:18:30

make this the greatest thing of all time and make everybody feel good about it

1:18:34

yeah but again i don't

1:18:35

know the in and outs i don't know if you can run a organization like that and

1:18:39

be prof i don't know

1:18:40

well it'd be profitable but it wouldn't be as profitable and that's the thing

1:18:43

when you have

1:18:44

shareholders so when you have shareholders you have an obligation to your

1:18:47

shareholders to maximize your

1:18:49

profits and and and this is this is the only knock on the uci i have is in

1:18:54

order to get that 7.7

1:18:56

billion dollar deal you have to put on whatever it is 45 fight cards a year

1:19:01

right so like those fight

1:19:03

nights so now you don't really have the talent or the stars to fulfill those

1:19:07

cards but because

1:19:08

you made this deal with paramount now you're getting just you know you're

1:19:12

signing these contenders

1:19:13

series kids who have three fights four fights where 10 years ago those boys ain't

1:19:17

sniffing the ufc

1:19:18

it was so hard to get in but now because we have to fulfill those cards you're

1:19:21

getting a lower level

1:19:22

of talent yeah well here's what's interesting so um one of the players in the

1:19:28

purchasing of the ufc

1:19:31

of the rights of the ufc was netflix they're one of the players they're one of

1:19:35

the people that were

1:19:36

thinking about doing it um so there was negotiations with them there's

1:19:40

negotiations with espn and

1:19:42

ultimately paramount was like this wild dark horse that came around with the

1:19:45

big money and i like

1:19:46

paramount i have no issues yeah look i love ads are weird but whatever i love

1:19:50

mobland i love land

1:19:52

landman yeah mobland is great everyone's that yeah this is audi is r6 in that

1:19:58

it makes me want

1:19:59

so bad me too i never wanted a wagon until i saw tom hardy drive that they're

1:20:04

sick they're so sick

1:20:05

it's a great show yeah but paramount has awesome shows so it makes sense i

1:20:10

already had it great

1:20:12

perfect i love the fact there's no pay-per-view but what's interesting about

1:20:17

netflix not doing it

1:20:18

because i think netflix didn't want the i might be talking out of school but i'll

1:20:22

just say it i believe

1:20:23

what i heard take this here's the caveat is that netflix did not want the small

1:20:29

fights

1:20:29

they did not want fight night good for them

1:20:35

they only wanted the big ones well some of the fight nights are awesome we like

1:20:40

them because we're

1:20:40

degenerates right the public's like who the are these guys apex there's no one

1:20:44

there yeah i love

1:20:46

that netflix like what take these i love the apex fights i've been planning on

1:20:50

going to an apex fight

1:20:51

card i'm trying to find the right one just to go and watch i'll go with you let's

1:20:55

go i would love that

1:20:57

i just want to go to watch because they'll let you in if you come with me yeah

1:21:00

i feel like i don't have

1:21:02

how many enemies oh here i kind of stood by the fact they didn't want the

1:21:06

volume that's it that's how

1:21:07

they say it which we understood from the get-go uh ted sarandos who i love um

1:21:11

bella bajaria i don't

1:21:14

knew her uh we're very up front with that we're looking for big events so the

1:21:18

fact that you could

1:21:19

give us one pay-per-view which is just we were just going to put on the

1:21:22

platform for free as long

1:21:24

as you're a subscriber as long as you just give us that we're in we'll pay

1:21:28

premium for it but we don't

1:21:30

want to carry the other 30 fight nights they said we don't want the yeah here's

1:21:33

the thing but then

1:21:34

where would those 30 fight nights go that's the question but then then that

1:21:38

fulfills pfl bellator

1:21:40

or you fight fight pass yeah fight pass i could do that fight pass but to to

1:21:44

again the business side

1:21:46

of it the zufa or tko's going well hold on the reason we get such a big nut 7.7

1:21:52

billion because we

1:21:53

offer so much content right you guys are trying to do what our game plan was 15

1:21:57

years ago which are

1:21:58

just one big fight every every once a month which for the fans is awesome it

1:22:05

makes sense for zufa

1:22:07

and it makes it makes sense for netflix i get it and all of it makes it just

1:22:11

wasn't a fit but what i was

1:22:13

getting at is now it's interesting because netflix has got a lot of money netflix

1:22:20

throws some money

1:22:21

around right and netflix has a tremendous amount of subscribers and now netflix

1:22:27

is in the mma game

1:22:28

i'm glad you brought that up so have you heard anybody talk about it keep going

1:22:32

it's us dorks

1:22:33

like you and me keep going no no one in the real world is talking about it to

1:22:36

me but that's okay

1:22:37

the point is they're gonna do it and just because it's on netflix i guarantee

1:22:42

you millions of people

1:22:44

will watch it i bet they'll have a hard time selling live tickets let's see if

1:22:48

it's sold out it's

1:22:49

definitely not and the tickets are 88 um but this is where it gets tricky

1:22:55

because

1:22:56

the the more places fighters have to go the better because ufc has no

1:23:01

competition right it's a monopoly

1:23:03

all good right which nfl is nba is i have no issues with that right so if

1:23:07

fighters big name fighters have

1:23:08

a place to go and can get paid i'm all for it right the issue of this netflix

1:23:12

and getting mma it's like

1:23:14

my thing would be well what's the plan here you know so rhonda and gino fight

1:23:18

this week and you

1:23:19

got two four-year-olds fighting the main event it's going to get good numbers

1:23:24

but again and you know

1:23:25

this you've been in business with netflix they're not going to give you the

1:23:27

real numbers right when

1:23:28

you negotiate they don't give you the real numbers no they don't tell you they

1:23:31

don't tell you they

1:23:31

say you did great they don't tell you but then all of a sudden jake paul did

1:23:35

400 million people i'm

1:23:36

like really did he so they're gonna say well jake paul can say that right did

1:23:41

netflix say that

1:23:42

netflix said this no definitely said 400 million people like that some how many

1:23:46

people have netflix

1:23:47

i don't think they have that many i made up a crazy number but it's a ton of

1:23:50

people that last

1:23:51

article said that they have over 300 million subscribers so 100 million people

1:23:55

were so say

1:23:56

100 million yeah yeah but so and right now you know and i get ronda's being a

1:24:00

promoter she learned from

1:24:01

dana she's like we're going to destroy the white house i disagree i don't think

1:24:05

it does but netflix will

1:24:07

tell you they did well here's the thing even if it gets really good numbers jake

1:24:11

paul versus anthony

1:24:12

joshua george 33 million viewers on netflix that's really good that's really

1:24:17

good um i don't know

1:24:18

what the sean strickland um hamzak chamayev numbers were they might not have

1:24:24

been 33 million maybe

1:24:26

they were i don't know the thing about it being paramount paramount does not

1:24:30

have the number of

1:24:31

subscribers that netflix has how many subscribers i'm guessing i might be wrong

1:24:35

i think they have like

1:24:36

60 million right how many subscribers does paramount plus have but but this is

1:24:41

what you're not taking

1:24:42

consideration paramount and the ufc it's only in america so in canada and other

1:24:48

like paramount in

1:24:50

europe there's there's not a thing right so what are those views now right you

1:24:54

know like when we're

1:24:55

adding all this up get paramount in other countries i i don't think the paramount's

1:24:59

in europe and

1:25:00

shit like that they're watching on like sky sports i think out there they have

1:25:02

a different deal oh

1:25:04

interesting and then australia i think still has pay-per-view interesting yeah

1:25:08

i think you're

1:25:08

right i think you're right okay 79 million paid subscribers so that's a big

1:25:13

difference between

1:25:15

it says globally yeah half of them are in the u.s 35 million are in the u.s um

1:25:20

are there any countries

1:25:21

where paramount is not in let's let's put that into yeah but i still think that

1:25:26

that ufc deal was just

1:25:27

for the u.s yeah it's just for you just for us yeah okay because uk is sky

1:25:31

sports so that means there's

1:25:32

only 35 million people that it's reaching period so they'll never get to the jake

1:25:37

paul number the jake

1:25:38

paul number of the anthony joshua fight if that's an accurate number 33 million

1:25:41

they're never going to get to

1:25:42

that but remember the white house is also on cbs that's different how many

1:25:47

people on cbs how many

1:25:48

people are watching regular tv i mean maybe they might 30 more views oh my dad's

1:25:54

my dad's that's

1:25:55

just on channel four in denver colorado you know your rabbit ears pick it up

1:25:59

they still have regular tv

1:26:01

man regular tv is crazy crazy like some people have to move the antenna the

1:26:06

signal's coming in bad crazy

1:26:08

people there's people out there with regular tv yeah that's wild where they

1:26:11

only have the four

1:26:12

channels that's crazy they're just getting their news from like like you know

1:26:16

robots fox and they don't

1:26:19

even get fox fox is cable that's right yeah regular tv you ain't getting jack

1:26:25

shit they can swear on fox

1:26:26

can they i believe so because if it's on cable i think you're allowed to swear

1:26:31

oh wow

1:26:33

i think so yeah but i don't think fox is well there's a broadcast version of

1:26:38

fox though

1:26:39

right but is it uh regulated but if it's broadcast it is that's the whole the

1:26:44

fox still right but

1:26:46

broadcast and cable so what do you mean by there's a broadcast version so there's

1:26:50

a version with over

1:26:51

the air what's what's what available what's available through the air right

1:26:54

that's what the fcc is so the

1:26:56

broadcast version meaning that you could just get it with a regular antenna

1:26:59

yeah there's like a local

1:27:00

fox oh okay okay you're right you're right you're right okay it came way later

1:27:05

that's right i'm so

1:27:07

old i remember when fox was just cable channel 31 i remember we wanted it for

1:27:11

the simpsons and married

1:27:12

with children yeah simpsons too maybe it was broadcast back then maybe i'm

1:27:17

wrong i think i am hard to get it

1:27:19

it wasn't the strongest of signals in most places okay but it was always

1:27:23

broadcast okay my have

1:27:25

times changed now because there's like we talk about mobland there's so many

1:27:30

dope shows there's so

1:27:31

many good shows out there but it's like hot for like a week and then something

1:27:36

else comes there's too

1:27:36

many things there's too there's too much like i don't like there would never be

1:27:40

like game of thrones

1:27:41

or sopranos where it's like the entire world shuts down right we all just kind

1:27:45

of binge it when we

1:27:46

want true and there's a new show here it's not good man true that's fact that's

1:27:51

fact um try selling

1:27:52

a show right now like that i was talking about the my gearheads gone wild on

1:27:56

tubi tubi has i

1:27:58

think 300 million subscribers they're big but trying to sell a show these 300

1:28:04

million subscribers on

1:28:04

tubi is massive i didn't know either i didn't know either when i first got the

1:28:08

offer i'm like where

1:28:10

but again trying to sell a show is tough a car show tough dude i didn't know

1:28:15

tubi had that many

1:28:16

subscribers look that up to make sure i've been so exaggerating this past 100

1:28:23

million monthly active

1:28:24

users um but i don't know how many subscribers do they have in total all right

1:28:30

i know that the

1:28:31

numbers is it a subscriber thing or is it like a youtube thing we could just

1:28:34

like and they have

1:28:35

view it i would imagine it's tiered of it says a free ad supported streaming

1:28:40

service rather than

1:28:41

subscription-based model it's free but they they have subscribed and then you

1:28:45

can get the non

1:28:46

ad paid where you pay i think oh okay so if you can just get it for free yeah

1:28:50

like youtube youtube

1:28:51

bread and right youtube is probably the biggest well like they probably have

1:28:56

the most active viewers

1:28:58

worldwide hey not even close yeah no one's but then remember they tried doing

1:29:02

like shows and it just

1:29:03

ate like youtube red you remember youtube red man they're like making offers i

1:29:08

remember youtube

1:29:10

remember that i think it's crazy it's interesting because just a regular show

1:29:14

on youtube can do really

1:29:16

well like mr beast yeah but i think youtube red was like kind of a little

1:29:19

before that right and they're

1:29:21

like right put your shows on here and like they jumped the gun yeah they jumped

1:29:25

the gun mr beast was

1:29:26

like or i'll just put my shit out and everybody in the world will watch it yeah

1:29:29

the thing about if

1:29:29

you put your shit on youtube there's literally an infinite number of options

1:29:34

and channels

1:29:35

that's the thing and it's completely dependent on what you see like the

1:29:39

recommended for you

1:29:41

it's completely what you're interested in everything's niche now it's like like

1:29:45

there's people out

1:29:46

there we don't even know and like my kids are like daddy has 60 million

1:29:49

subscribers i'm like what the

1:29:50

i know i know you know how much money he's making yeah it's all niche niche

1:29:57

there's that but then

1:29:58

there's also astroturfing there's a lot of these astroturfing is when you you

1:30:05

have fake

1:30:05

downloads fake views you have like companies that you can hire and they will

1:30:11

get you views but and

1:30:12

so but here's the thing that's gonna fuck you it'll fuck you but but the point

1:30:16

is people still do it and

1:30:17

they do it because it's you can do it right now right and so what that means is

1:30:22

like say if you have

1:30:23

like millions and millions of subscribers and then you look at the views the

1:30:28

views are hundreds of

1:30:29

thousands of views then you look at the comments like five comments six

1:30:32

comments like what the

1:30:33

is going on what's going on here but it's a weird thing to do because in order

1:30:37

to make money youtube sees

1:30:38

the back end so if you're trying to make money off your show right you're not

1:30:42

going to make money but

1:30:43

it'll get bigger because of the number so here's the thing like so if you go to

1:30:48

like brendanshob.com

1:30:50

if you did that if you have brendanshob's youtube channel and i looked at it i'm

1:30:53

like damn he's got 25

1:30:55

million subscribers well i should subscribe people do that they'll click on it

1:30:59

and they'll click on your

1:31:00

views or your videos because they think they're like missing out like clearly

1:31:03

this guy's doing something of

1:31:04

of course it definitely i don't i'm not saying that's responsible for all the

1:31:07

views that you'll

1:31:08

get because of that but it has an impact on how people see you you look more

1:31:13

legitimate and if

1:31:14

you're trying to develop sponsor deals or some sort of a brand endorsement deal

1:31:19

like well i've got

1:31:20

20 million subscribers on youtube like oh this guy's big yeah it definitely

1:31:26

doesn't like but there's

1:31:27

three comments well there was a there was scammers that were doing weird stuff

1:31:31

in the early days of

1:31:32

podcasts where they would rig things to exaggerate downloads back in the early

1:31:37

days of audio oh buddy

1:31:39

yeah oh yeah and then someone came and regulated it exactly but it's not like

1:31:43

we were all in on it

1:31:44

no like it was someone who was running because we're all kind of using the same

1:31:48

audio thing and i i

1:31:49

remember telling brian i'm like do we have 30 million audio 30 mil dude this

1:31:53

month and then tom's like

1:31:54

yeah i got 60 i'm like dude we're crushing it and then someone came in was like

1:31:59

actually yeah what it was

1:32:00

doing was like every time someone clicked on it it would count so that like i i'm

1:32:05

talking completely

1:32:06

if they started stopped it right it counted over and over again as multiple

1:32:10

listens that's right

1:32:12

and i think they do that with other things too like so you have to figure out

1:32:16

like who the actual

1:32:17

number of people but people have been accused of making like you can you could

1:32:23

pay to get instagram

1:32:24

accounts you can get followers there's companies that will get you followers i

1:32:29

don't know if it's

1:32:30

legit or legal but i know for a fact but doesn't instagram in the background

1:32:33

doesn't youtube don't

1:32:34

they try to shut that down just they definitely do millions of bots over the

1:32:38

weekend 100 and i i

1:32:40

notice it sometimes i'll notice it well i'll lose like a hundred thousand yeah

1:32:43

i lost a hundred thousand

1:32:44

yeah but yeah there are bots 100 and there's a ton of them and they catch some

1:32:49

of them but some of them

1:32:50

are more sophisticated in their approach and then they adjust so once they

1:32:54

realize what gets them

1:32:55

caught you can run an ai program yeah so if you run an ai program and you have

1:32:59

a like if you're in

1:33:00

Singapore or wherever you're at doing this you could run an ai program that

1:33:05

controls a bunch of different

1:33:07

cell phones that has a bunch of different accounts and you can have them even

1:33:11

commenting on things

1:33:12

and you'll notice this sometimes and they'll be programmed to comment positive

1:33:17

or negative or

1:33:18

and it seems like a person man but you'll see that there's like a bunch of

1:33:23

numbers after a couple

1:33:24

of letters or a name like bob 567254 and then you see like god i don't think

1:33:30

bob's a person and then

1:33:31

you go to bob's account and you're like there's almost no chance that bob's a

1:33:35

person but meanwhile bob's

1:33:37

posting all the time and making comments on things all the time and most likely

1:33:42

what this is is it's

1:33:44

paid engagement so it's not just paid views but because of ai and because of

1:33:48

programs you could

1:33:49

run there's the potential for paid engagement dialogue back and forth yeah me

1:33:53

and shop were talking about

1:33:54

before you got here is something i don't know that you're aware of this joe uh

1:33:57

the streamers paying

1:33:58

for the next level of what you're describing so it's not ai doing it i've heard

1:34:03

of clippers yes they're

1:34:04

paying for there's thousands of people that are just sitting around at home

1:34:07

making a shitload of

1:34:09

money a ton of money and they're posting uh because you'll think certain people

1:34:13

are bigger than they

1:34:14

are like man i see them everywhere it's like that's all by design and you can

1:34:17

pay for that too so that's

1:34:19

probably legal right so no i mean why would it should it be right i mean it all

1:34:27

depends on what are you

1:34:29

what are you doing are you getting money from it are you getting advertising

1:34:32

revenue from it to your

1:34:34

point it's it's it's a false sense of fame because to your point with arma it's

1:34:37

like yeah we know him

1:34:39

in the and he's getting views online but does that equal actual fans i think

1:34:43

it reinforces the fans that already love them yes and a few people are gonna

1:34:50

hop on board but as far as

1:34:52

like your general casual that will they're not tune in for a ufc fight card no

1:34:57

not necessarily but it's

1:35:00

also a younger demo right like have you watched the stream no you're older than

1:35:04

me no never watch the

1:35:05

stream no i had a talk with a streaming company the other day i'm like do what

1:35:08

wait wait you want me to

1:35:10

seven days a week turn on the camera and hear my just like breakfast and like

1:35:14

hanging out with my family

1:35:16

well the streaming thing is nuts where people just live online first of all how

1:35:20

bad is that for your

1:35:20

back and you're just ranting and raving and talking online all day can't be

1:35:25

good but then like you know

1:35:27

we love rampage rampage does it making stupid money yeah but you know it's a

1:35:31

good move for rampage

1:35:32

you know he's not fighting anymore yeah it's a good move makes sense and he's

1:35:36

got the jackson podcast

1:35:37

that's doing well it's good for him to diversify do a bunch of different he's

1:35:40

crushing other and he's

1:35:41

also got a great personality so he's great he's perfect for it perfect for that

1:35:45

but some people

1:35:46

you know it ain't that thing shouldn't be doing that but streaming is like the

1:35:51

biggest thing yeah

1:35:52

jamie yeah i get me sound old as but we're old yeah also that's live you know

1:35:57

it's also it's like

1:35:58

what are you doing with your life like i got things to do i know i can't sit in

1:36:04

front of the camera for

1:36:05

five hours a day i don't understand how anybody does it but also is it that

1:36:09

entertaining like my life's not

1:36:11

fucking lit 24 hours a day on camera and then they watch a bunch of things and

1:36:15

react to things

1:36:16

there's a lot of that like for a lot of them like for our channel there was a

1:36:21

lot of people that were

1:36:21

making a living just going on twitch and these other channels these other

1:36:26

streaming things streaming

1:36:28

my show and commenting on it like reaction videos yeah get mad about things we

1:36:32

said and doing stuff but

1:36:33

they were doing it through the they were playing the whole show out oh yeah

1:36:38

that's illegal well it was very

1:36:40

shady it was very weird because they were commenting on it but it was like your

1:36:43

entire content was based

1:36:45

on my content and your reaction to my content but you know it's weird you know

1:36:50

you're dunking on me or

1:36:52

you're pumping me up or whatever you're doing it's it's there was a lot of that

1:36:56

going on and so then

1:36:57

there's a lot of people that are watching whether it's mr b show and commenting

1:37:00

on that or other shows

1:37:01

are coming on that so they're watching stuff online someone will send them a

1:37:05

video of a guy getting

1:37:06

a street fight to comment on that yeah and then they're reaction videos and

1:37:09

they're interacting

1:37:10

with all these people that are in the in the car making money off of it yeah

1:37:13

and they're talking

1:37:14

to these people that are in the comments it's like it's weird first of all if

1:37:17

you think that

1:37:18

social media is bad for your mental health oh my god dude yes yesterday i was

1:37:23

driving down uh

1:37:24

i dropped my kids off and i was going somewhere i was going this uh this car

1:37:28

shop my truck's in the shop

1:37:30

and i was i was driving my father-in-law's car and i see a high school bus lake

1:37:33

travis high school i

1:37:34

live right by lake travis i see a lake travis high school bus pull up i just

1:37:38

look over every single

1:37:40

kid staring at their phone on their phone yep not talking to each other no that's

1:37:44

anyone it bummed me

1:37:45

out so bad i know it's you know the fun we used to have on that bus i know and

1:37:50

no one's no one's

1:37:51

talking to each other i know the bus is silent i'm like god you guys are doing

1:37:55

it wrong well it's not

1:37:56

just doing it wrong hey listen i know i'm the old dude you guys are fucking up

1:38:00

right now well you're

1:38:01

right but it is also where human beings are headed we're headed into this weird

1:38:07

world of the digital

1:38:09

world and this is the first steps these are the first steps we're taking by

1:38:12

staring into a phone

1:38:13

all day but but we know it's not good oh yeah no it's so so we're just going to

1:38:17

continue to go down

1:38:18

this shit road you don't think there's anything we can do nope nope people are

1:38:22

addicted they're 100

1:38:23

addicted to their phone i don't i don't see anything changing i think uh if

1:38:28

anything it's going to get

1:38:29

more invasive and then um it's probably the i mean who knows just guessing what

1:38:35

the next technology is

1:38:37

going to be but as this technology moves forward it's going to get more

1:38:41

invasive it's going to get

1:38:43

more you're going to interact with more people through whatever the it is

1:38:48

however they're

1:38:49

going to do it whether it's going to be some new tech that lets you communicate

1:38:53

with people with a

1:38:54

headset and you're reading each other's minds or whether you're hanging out

1:38:58

together in augmented

1:39:00

reality and you don't think anybody's like man that we're down a terrible road

1:39:03

they're not going to

1:39:03

no one's going to they're going to keep doing too much money no it's just

1:39:06

everyone's addicted

1:39:08

and everyone uses it for too many things it's also a primary source of news and

1:39:11

information

1:39:12

i get all my um like ideas about like how the world is working from social

1:39:19

media not not social media

1:39:22

commentary but social media stories well someone will post like this is going

1:39:27

on in iran this

1:39:28

is going on here i get it off social media i get it off of x but you have to

1:39:31

pick and choose and what

1:39:32

you pay attention to right it's yeah it's dicey and you got to find people that

1:39:36

are not full of

1:39:37

shit and not click engagement because there's a lot of click a lot of just

1:39:41

clickbait bullshit majority

1:39:42

is yeah there's a lot of that but you also find breaking news and you also find

1:39:46

things that you

1:39:47

wouldn't know about you know like certain stories and certain things that are

1:39:51

happening in the news and

1:39:53

certain certain really crazy stories they're like how am i not hearing about

1:39:57

this this is this should be

1:39:58

fucking huge but you don't think it's gonna be like uh and i know we have to

1:40:01

use it you don't think it's

1:40:02

gonna be kind of like cigarettes like in the 60s where everyone was doing it

1:40:05

and then eventually

1:40:06

the parents of those kids i'm sorry the children of those parents go what the

1:40:10

this is so bad for you

1:40:12

if it was a substance i would agree but the problem it is addictive but the

1:40:15

problem is it's

1:40:16

all facets of your life it is your calendar it is your email it is how you take

1:40:22

pictures and all your

1:40:24

memories it is uh how you interact with a lot of people there's a lot of people

1:40:28

i don't even have their

1:40:28

phone numbers i just they dm me and i dm them you know i have friendships with

1:40:33

people that are just dm

1:40:34

so it's uh there's that but that's basically the problem is that it's it's a

1:40:42

giant part of the

1:40:43

world now where cigarettes never really were we're relying on it yeah you could

1:40:47

there was a bunch of

1:40:48

people who didn't smoke even when people smoked cigarettes like let's look this

1:40:53

up throw this into

1:40:54

perplexity young jamie please um during the height of smoking in the united

1:40:59

states what percentage of

1:41:01

adults smoked let's guess god back in the back in the day whenever it was the

1:41:05

nuttiest like in the 50s

1:41:07

or whatever i think it was 50 that'd be high right crazy high 30 crazy i

1:41:12

thought i was thinking like 33

1:41:16

but it might be higher because those old days man everybody had a cigarette in

1:41:20

their hand

1:41:21

johnny carson show everyone yeah people walking down the street smoke on planes

1:41:25

smoke on buses smoke

1:41:26

on trains yeah everybody was walking down the street smoking but what

1:41:29

percentage of those people were

1:41:31

doing it okay 40 to 45 wow in the mid 1960s the height of cigarette use in the

1:41:39

u.s

1:41:39

roughly 40 to 45 percent of adults smoked which works out to the order of 80 to

1:41:44

90 million adults

1:41:46

wow that's a shit that's incredible that's incredible american lung association

1:41:51

summary notes that adult

1:41:52

smoking has fallen to around from around 40 to 43 percent in 1965 to about 11

1:41:58

at 12 percent in 2022.

1:42:00

i think it's back i think people are really i feel like it's lower i think

1:42:03

people are smoking

1:42:04

i see it a lot now outlawed it in san francisco outside that's hilarious gay

1:42:10

that's that's san francisco

1:42:11

that makes the san francisco tree well you hear what they're doing in the uk if

1:42:16

you were born um before

1:42:19

or after a certain date you can't buy cigarettes when you turn 21. just to stop

1:42:25

people from exactly so people

1:42:29

that were born in like whatever year whatever year they they set it at when

1:42:33

they turn 21 they will not

1:42:35

be able to buy cigarettes just trying to eliminate but you'll be able to buy

1:42:37

cigarettes because you're

1:42:38

born at a different time they say oh you're retarded you don't know any better

1:42:41

that's so stupid it's

1:42:44

there it's communism it's it's socialism didn't they just uh run out the

1:42:47

fucking was it prime minister

1:42:49

where the fuck they call him he's still there i thought they ran him out to

1:42:51

bring somebody else in

1:42:52

they probably want to but they haven't yeah but the point is it's like that

1:42:56

kind of woke socialism it's like

1:42:58

they're it's the government telling you what to do when i say communism i don't

1:43:02

mean like they take all

1:43:04

your money because they'll definitely do that eventually too but what they do

1:43:07

is they tell you

1:43:07

what you can say correct they tell you what you can do they tell you what

1:43:10

medications you have to take

1:43:12

it's all socialized medicine they tell you what to do and what to say and how

1:43:17

to think and they're

1:43:18

going to protect you protecting someone from cigarettes while you're selling

1:43:22

them alcohol

1:43:23

it's so dumb so dumb it's bananas it's dumb but but uh england's lost their way

1:43:30

man they've lost their

1:43:30

identity it's a fucking shit show well they're arresting people like crazy for

1:43:34

posting on social media

1:43:36

about the immigration crisis primarily also other things but criticizing the

1:43:41

government and now they

1:43:42

threw away jury trials for those things so now it's a judge and so you don't

1:43:47

even get people like you your

1:43:49

peers to sit there and go no this fucking guy shouldn't go to jail his daughter

1:43:53

got attacked by

1:43:54

some immigrants and he said some wild about immigrants and no he shouldn't be

1:43:57

in jail for that but my

1:43:58

thing have you like what's the agenda just to ruin just ruin the control so um

1:44:05

shrink you down to 15

1:44:06

minute cities they're implementing that in part of the uk the other thing is a

1:44:10

digital credit system right so a

1:44:13

digital a digital digital credit school a social score and um some sort of

1:44:18

centralized digital currency

1:44:20

which i think we're probably they're probably going to try to move us all into

1:44:23

eventually but

1:44:24

if they can attach your social credit score with this digital currency then you

1:44:28

have what they have

1:44:29

in china so in china if you up and you do something stupid guess what face you

1:44:35

can't buy a plane ticket

1:44:36

that's wild yeah you you can't get a loan you can't get this for a house and it

1:44:40

keeps people in line

1:44:42

and then the government can do its job without protests dude can i piss real

1:44:45

quick let's piss

1:44:46

two i gotta piss energy drinks we'll be right back folks ah so much better i

1:44:52

know it's hard to

1:44:52

concentrate when you have to piss bro you were talking i was like oh man i don't

1:44:55

want to hear this

1:44:56

moment to piss my pants what were we talking about let's talk about your show

1:45:00

um so we have cigar

1:45:02

brother yeah dude last time i smoking last time i smoked it i smoked it

1:45:06

backwards i got roasted so

1:45:08

hard online i know i didn't notice i didn't notice but maybe i just smoking

1:45:13

backwards from now on switch

1:45:15

it up it is funny though but it's really the same it's just where the label is

1:45:21

yeah man what are these

1:45:23

i'm a rebel smoke it backwards you are a rebel there you go thanks brother

1:45:30

here's the clipper you know how this works yeah thanks make sure you clip the

1:45:38

right spot that one

1:45:40

there you go yeah on that this this cigar is different because it's not a

1:45:44

torpedo like the other

1:45:45

one so the other one you could get more confused because both ends were pointy

1:45:50

do you know how to do

1:45:50

that yeah do you need help no i got a big time older you know no i'm dude you

1:45:54

know me cigars i smoked

1:45:55

only in here oh you light it that's right um so your show so your show is on 2b

1:46:07

2b hey so light this

1:46:09

part yeah well no but this part which yeah like this one it's fucking dude it's

1:46:15

tricky right no no like

1:46:18

i'm just retarded like yeah light the part that you didn't cut

1:46:21

um what is it called what's your show called gary had's gone wild oh that's

1:46:31

right just like

1:46:32

girls gone wild same text and everything is that a problem no hell no that guy's

1:46:39

i think in

1:46:40

fucking on the lamb in mexico i think we're good is he really uh hiding yeah i

1:46:44

think so either way

1:46:46

we're good didn't he get like kidnapped and they fucking hear some dicey yeah

1:46:50

yeah it turned out

1:46:52

pretty sad for him it's a car i mean it's what we would be doing anyways you

1:46:58

know and then they

1:46:59

wanted to make a tv show out of it so like i went to calvo calvo vipers he

1:47:04

scared the shit out of me

1:47:06

calvo vipers owned to the biggest porsche collection in austin i'm obsessed

1:47:10

with safari porsches man oh

1:47:12

you like those god those off-road ones you know i think russell makes them russell

1:47:16

i forget the exact

1:47:17

name but russell does i i don't know what the it is when it's an off-road like

1:47:23

that uh that just that

1:47:25

vibe i don't know what it is dude i love them man why do you love the off-road

1:47:30

one i don't know is

1:47:31

there a dirt track where you could take a porsche off-road car to oh i'm sure

1:47:36

where i bet i bet

1:47:37

especially in california like johnson valley and all that oh yeah yeah yeah but

1:47:41

out here there's

1:47:41

there's places out here people have been hitting me up about right but when you

1:47:44

take when you go

1:47:45

off-roading generally you're going off-roading with a truck where you can

1:47:50

bounce over rocks and

1:47:51

shit you can't really do that in an off-road porsche that's like more for those

1:47:55

crazy mountain roads

1:47:57

that are in the dirt yeah that's a jacar russell built fab oh that's dope look

1:48:01

dude some dad had

1:48:02

one at the base that's a 993 yeah oh wow so they took a 993 and and oh that's

1:48:10

pretty

1:48:11

it's my favorite thing in the world i don't know why look at the wheel wells

1:48:16

that's crazy

1:48:19

wow perfect daily driver too don't have to worry about you know what i have a

1:48:22

problem with those

1:48:24

extra front headlights that they stick on the hood i do not like them i think

1:48:28

it up the

1:48:29

lines of the car agree you could because you could put those on that front

1:48:33

there

1:48:33

just take them on the bumper what do you do you drive at night in the dark shut

1:48:36

the

1:48:37

up bitch you ain't really off-road i mean you're off-roading but you're not in

1:48:41

the woods oh don't

1:48:42

get twisted at night time like all my trucks i have that ram 2500 av that thing's

1:48:47

never seen the dirt

1:48:48

right but that's different that's a truck that looks fine with the extra lights

1:48:52

on it yeah but

1:48:53

porsche i agree i think it's like whenever i see those old 911s like the 1972s

1:48:58

and they have those

1:48:59

extra headlights on the hood i'm like ew yeah what are you doing you're ruining

1:49:04

the lines of one of those

1:49:05

beautiful creations like a bad set of fake tits you're like what are you doing

1:49:09

no it's like extra

1:49:10

fake tits it's like you've got two things on your yeah

1:49:13

you get some collarbone tits like get those out of there they don't belong

1:49:20

there

1:49:20

more is not always better and the shape of a porsche especially those long nose

1:49:26

porsches oh it's so beautiful the best when you have dumb ass headlights on the

1:49:31

hood like

1:49:31

can't it's just not meant to be yeah get out of here yeah i like different i

1:49:35

don't like i agree

1:49:36

those those those headlights do up the lines but like uh the other thing i'm

1:49:40

really i'm just into

1:49:40

different like i like when they swap the ls's in the porsches too oh yeah that's

1:49:44

dope yeah just the

1:49:46

sound oh that chop yeah yeah i don't know it's like that man i like those a lot

1:49:52

of people think

1:49:52

that's heretics that's like oh my god what you should go to jail for that oh

1:49:57

dude i brought water

1:49:57

cooled ls engine in a porsche bro this guy's like he's the head guy for porsche

1:50:03

driving he's driving

1:50:04

me around and i go man you ever you ever driven with those ls porsches and he

1:50:08

was like what the

1:50:08

fuck did you say i'm like you don't get down with those like no i'm like yeah

1:50:12

those are gay

1:50:13

so gay no they're awesome yeah i just like different shit man yeah rutledge

1:50:19

wood had one of those

1:50:20

he had um one of those um what what's the fucking japanese cat that does the y

1:50:26

bodies oh i know you're

1:50:27

talking about i saw rwb yes yeah yeah he he had one of those with an ls in it

1:50:33

that's pretty sick and

1:50:34

there's there's companies that do that yeah yeah they're sick and it sounds

1:50:38

incredible it sounds

1:50:39

like an american muscle car but yet it's in a car that's like 2 000 pounds dude

1:50:44

and all i do is search

1:50:45

facebook marketplace for rs swap porsches god you can get some good deals

1:50:49

because no one really

1:50:50

wants them you know that crazy yeah because everybody wants the air cooled

1:50:53

because the air

1:50:54

cooled has that raspy brown they are the best it's a wild it's great it's a

1:50:59

wild sound that air cooled

1:51:00

sound is a wild as i'm getting older too it's like uh you know i've had trucks

1:51:04

with 1400 horsepower i have

1:51:06

cars with 1100 horsepower and then if you just get an old school porsche air

1:51:13

cooled with 250 horsepower

1:51:16

manual it's all you need dude they're so fun as you get older you're like oh

1:51:20

why am i chasing this

1:51:21

fucking horsepower yeah because it's just about driving enjoyment it's not

1:51:25

about you're not racing it

1:51:27

no you know you're not on a track oh dude i knew i had issues when i was

1:51:31

driving my kid to his

1:51:32

fucking baseball game and my car was running hot my trx the 1400 horsepower was

1:51:37

running hot i

1:51:38

converted to twin turbo uh hellcat engine it's like 1400 it's running on e85

1:51:43

fuel there's no e85

1:51:44

out there i'm in the middle of like dripping springs i had to pull over on the

1:51:47

side of the

1:51:48

road because it's the engine was smoking i just went what the am i doing man

1:51:52

who am i doing this

1:51:53

for it's not like i'm taking it to the track yeah who am i doing this for well

1:51:57

a hennessy has a

1:51:58

thousand and you can drive it everywhere yeah that's probably the way to do it

1:52:02

hennessy trx yeah

1:52:03

they're crazy raptor yeah i almost bought one of those and then i got that av

1:52:08

ram and i linked

1:52:09

up with diesel r and we're doing a randy's transmission i got a freaking

1:52:13

stealth bigger

1:52:13

turbo on there fast fuel system oh bro let me get my pants oh yeah i don't know

1:52:19

if you're into

1:52:19

that stuff but i'm picking it up today it's finally done dude that sounds fun

1:52:24

oh dude i can't

1:52:25

fucking wait that sounds fun yeah um so the idea is you're just driving around

1:52:31

going to different

1:52:32

places having people do different things with cars yeah like check out what

1:52:36

people are doing

1:52:37

yeah different mods they're doing yeah and it's like that old school like car

1:52:42

shows that we grew

1:52:43

up on like it'll throw up facts about porsches and about the car it'll just pop

1:52:47

up with that stuff

1:52:48

and that's like our boys like uh gordon ryan was on there with his trx oh he

1:52:51

has like 120 000 miles

1:52:53

on it does he really dude that thing's so busted up but he just drives it every

1:52:58

day he off roads it

1:53:00

he just we go in his car i'm like dude i said no gordon i'm gonna tell you the

1:53:04

same thing i tell

1:53:05

everybody when i get in the car with them i know it's for tv i don't need to

1:53:08

show off nobody's trying

1:53:09

to get hurt he's like i got you man and was just ripping this thing dude i'm

1:53:13

like i flip one of these

1:53:14

things man it ain't fun but it ain't fun but it's uh yeah just we like you know

1:53:20

and then someone's like

1:53:20

you want to do a tv show i'm like yeah let's ride man it's interesting how much

1:53:24

that's a male thing

1:53:25

there are women that are into cars but i don't know any women i mean i'm sure

1:53:29

they're out there but i

1:53:30

don't know any women that are into cars the way we're into cars no no um some

1:53:35

of them some of them

1:53:37

like cars they're into some but like for me it's like that is one of the one

1:53:42

things about having some

1:53:44

money that is worth it like i always tell people having a nice house is great

1:53:49

it is great there's

1:53:50

definitely nothing wrong with having a nice house but after a while it just

1:53:53

becomes your house yes and

1:53:54

if you're in a humble house that has a nice kitchen and a big tv and a couch

1:53:58

and a nice bed to sleep on

1:54:00

you're set you're kind of sad yeah like the difference in the way you feel when

1:54:04

you're home

1:54:05

versus a knife nice house is not much different okay the difference in driving

1:54:10

a nice car is like you are

1:54:14

you are at disneyland yes you would wait in line to get in that car and you're

1:54:19

boom boom and you're

1:54:20

fucking shifting your own gears and whoa it's fun and the shit you have dude i

1:54:27

live through you

1:54:29

because you know obviously we're in different tax brackets you know i gotta do

1:54:31

my thing on facebook

1:54:32

marketplace and i picked up tires the other day he goes holy brenshaw buys

1:54:37

tires on facebook

1:54:38

marketplace oh yeah dude who doesn't want a deal man put those in the back for

1:54:42

me dude but uh

1:54:44

yeah you got one of those poor i think your gunther porsche yes and you took a

1:54:47

picture you're like

1:54:48

dude i'll just sit in my garage and stare at him like dude i've never i do i

1:54:52

stare at it sometimes

1:54:54

sit in the garage and look at it oh it's a piece of art man yeah all carbon

1:54:58

fiber yeah dude some when

1:55:00

when i see like that that that that type of porsche like the gunther work or i'll

1:55:04

see a certain car

1:55:05

i'm just like i i can't even describe the it's like dude that is so sick yeah

1:55:13

do you see

1:55:13

the gunther works made a twin turbo slant nose i sent it to you peter nam sent

1:55:19

it to me too bro

1:55:21

the owner of the company sent it to me oh you know yeah well i bought it off

1:55:24

him i bought one

1:55:25

off him not that not the slant nose but i didn't know if you're dealing with

1:55:27

like customer service

1:55:28

no no i do it with peter he's he's awesome but that's it that car is insane and

1:55:34

they raced that one

1:55:35

against the gt3 rs and it buried it buried it buried it yeah they did uh some

1:55:44

rolling race like from 30

1:55:46

miles an hour and literally it just shot ahead like the other car was 1067

1:55:51

horsepower it's nothing

1:55:54

it weighs nothing what does it weigh um please search what does the the new the

1:56:01

slant nose gunther

1:56:02

works way because they're carbon fiber 100 their carbon fiber 2000 something

1:56:09

yeah yeah i bet it's

1:56:11

about 2400 pounds 27 27 so it's close but the the engine's probably super heavy

1:56:18

well i don't know if

1:56:19

it's super heavy but there's a lot of jazz in there but what engine is it the

1:56:23

um i think it's a leader

1:56:26

twin turbo flat six yeah and it's air cooled which is so nuts a thousand

1:56:33

horsepower flat six air cooled

1:56:38

engine is crazy brother and people everyone like you talk to anyone like i want

1:56:42

a thousand horsepower

1:56:43

you think you want a thousand horsepower now it's not like your zrx uh zr1x it's

1:56:48

not like that like if

1:56:49

you buy it or like at my demon 170 if you get in the fact from the factory you're

1:56:53

good when you have a

1:56:55

trx or your corvette or you know i've had other trucks about my ford lightning

1:56:59

if you're reaching

1:57:00

a thousand horsepower buddy you think you want those problems you do not right

1:57:05

it's a fucking

1:57:06

nightmare and then every week i was in the shop calling buddy doing something i'm

1:57:11

like this is

1:57:12

exhausting well this won't be like that like the gunther works ones are

1:57:15

reliable i've never

1:57:16

those are great but the question is does that have any traction control

1:57:20

hopefully not

1:57:24

like jamie could you please look up whether or not these uh new gunther works porsches

1:57:29

have

1:57:29

traction control i don't know how they can do that now i know they can do it

1:57:33

there's like a computer

1:57:34

thing that you could buy that is gunther's in california where they at i

1:57:38

believe so yeah 99

1:57:41

sure dude if you should connect with him because i'd love doing an episode with

1:57:44

him a wooden shift knob

1:57:45

pays tribute to the porsche's motorsport carriage modern electronics like

1:57:48

motorsports grade abs and

1:57:50

traction control oh okay well that's good it's nice that it has abs too that's

1:57:55

dope that's you're gonna

1:57:56

need it you're going yeah but see if you can find the race between the gt3 rs

1:58:03

and the slant nose

1:58:04

bro it is hilarious that's crazy and the sound it makes is orgasmic it's i can't

1:58:10

imagine how much

1:58:11

that thing is wonderful oh it's got to be a million dollars yeah yeah here's my

1:58:14

problem with porsche is

1:58:16

even 20 years ago when i for my very first car i bought when i had money i got

1:58:20

from podcasts myself

1:58:22

15 years ago i bought just your base 911 went to the porsche dealer bought a

1:58:27

base 911 i could afford

1:58:28

it it was i don't know 80 grand now porsche has become it's almost like what

1:58:34

ferrari was 10 years ago

1:58:36

where just the base porsche is so expensive man it's pricing out their market

1:58:41

so now it's become

1:58:42

and we've been on porsche for how long like we've always talked forever forever

1:58:46

it's our

1:58:46

shit watch this oh my god it's top gear oh it's top gear yeah it's great great

1:58:51

great channel yes

1:58:52

so these guys they do a rolling i guess they did a rolling start because they

1:58:57

didn't want to dump

1:58:58

the clutch on this million dollar car way safer watch this when they get to 30.

1:59:04

look at that interior dude watch this go

1:59:06

bro it's not even close it's not even close it's not even close that's insane

1:59:20

and the gt3rs is a

1:59:21

fast car fast mother car but this was not his car obviously this is you know

1:59:27

someone else's car that

1:59:28

they're letting him test and so whoever bought that car and spent a million

1:59:33

dollars how much did they

1:59:34

cost one point two one point two million dollars yeah that again that's my only

1:59:39

issue with porsche

1:59:40

now is because if you want a gt3 rs they're so expensive now man it's like well

1:59:45

people flip them

1:59:46

oh yeah a lot of people flip them oh yeah because they're really hard to get

1:59:49

too yeah yeah it's just

1:59:51

a lot of demand for it's tough yeah back in the day you could if even if you're

1:59:54

a porsche you could

1:59:55

start somewhere and you'd be okay and now it's almost like ferrari where it's

1:59:58

unattainable for

1:59:59

a lot of people well you know what a lot of people are doing six what's it's

2:00:02

400 000 more it's 1.6

2:00:04

million that car is yeah 1.6 is crazy worth every penny if you got that loot if

2:00:09

you got that loop um

2:00:10

please buy it one of the things that people are doing is taking that lighter

2:00:14

weight porsche 911 t

2:00:16

you know the t yep and they're taking that and juicing it up to like 700 plus

2:00:22

horsepower and you know

2:00:23

putting some mods on it now you're talking my language yeah because you can do

2:00:27

that for way

2:00:28

less than it would cost you to buy a twin turbo and you're getting the same

2:00:31

kind of speed but

2:00:32

you're also getting rear wheel drive yep and you can get them for pretty pretty

2:00:37

i don't want to say

2:00:37

cheap but cheaper cheaper like it's so tough man to get some of those like the

2:00:42

gt3 rs's you gotta be

2:00:43

allocated or it's like 150 over markup like it's tough these days in the porsche

2:00:48

business they're

2:00:48

they're crushing it it's good for them right but again for like my kids

2:00:53

hopefully they're fortunate

2:00:54

enough for them making good money but it's gonna be really tough to get into porsche

2:00:57

man it's just

2:00:58

it's a different the porsche has become the marquee car when back in the day it

2:01:02

wasn't that it wasn't

2:01:04

no you know it used to be much more affordable it was the more affordable supercar

2:01:09

a daily driving supercar

2:01:12

but you know the market and it's also things change right because now

2:01:15

everything is twin turbo

2:01:17

they're all twin turbo yeah unless you buy a gt3 they're twin turbo yep yeah

2:01:21

you know i think too

2:01:23

um one of the reasons i went away from exotic because i mean you know i even

2:01:28

modded my gt2 rs

2:01:29

like i'm an idiot but it loses value in them so when you mod them when you mod

2:01:33

them yeah it

2:01:34

fucks them up and i i just can't leave anything alone so that's why i went so

2:01:38

heavy into american

2:01:39

shit because you know the c6 is all all all the american stuff you can mod the

2:01:44

fuck out of and

2:01:44

there's a market they're not losing your ass yeah and they're cheaper to mod

2:01:48

like when i would mod a

2:01:49

ferrari buddy exhaust whatever the fuck turbos if you want to do a tune it's a

2:01:54

fucking nightmare man

2:01:56

nightmare yeah well it's all to me it's all about enjoyment right and so like

2:02:02

what do you what do you

2:02:03

what are you getting out of it if you're not like racing it and trying to go

2:02:07

around corners

2:02:08

sideways and correcting and you're not really doing that with most cars you're

2:02:12

just enjoying

2:02:13

it when you're driving it and for me i love the feel of a v8 like i have one of

2:02:20

those shelby super

2:02:22

snakes yeah it's a six speed didn't you get the super snake car it hasn't got

2:02:26

it yet i haven't

2:02:27

that's on the way we i love that car because it's a modern muscle car driving

2:02:34

it is like driving an

2:02:35

old school muscle car but it's all modern and perfect starts every time

2:02:40

interior is great and

2:02:42

it's just the fun of just driving normal speed just normal speed just driving

2:02:47

to work normally not

2:02:48

speeding just you feel like you're doing something fun and do you get that same

2:02:54

excitement in your zr1x

2:02:56

no no it's not the same the zr1x is on another planet it's uh it's a spaceship

2:03:01

i mean it's the

2:03:02

most capable car i've ever driven by far like when i took the zr1 around the

2:03:06

racetrack we drove it around

2:03:07

coda i was like this thing is crazy crazy it's so fast and it handles so well

2:03:12

and it gives you so much

2:03:13

confidence but it's different when you're not you're not shifting your own

2:03:18

gears you're not using

2:03:20

the clutch it's all about that the the driving experience is about engagement

2:03:25

and if you're not

2:03:26

using a manual you're missing you you're gonna have fun don't get me wrong you

2:03:30

get a corvette you're

2:03:31

gonna have a lot of for sure great car but shifting your own you know they

2:03:35

finally started making a um a

2:03:38

gear a manual transmission for the c8 really yeah so it's not is the grand

2:03:43

sport coming in a manual

2:03:46

i don't think it's going to be offered by corvette i don't know if there are in

2:03:49

the future but you can

2:03:50

buy one now so see what the company is that does that but it's a famous

2:03:54

transmission company that's

2:03:56

making a c8 manual transmission and everybody saw that like oh because that's

2:04:01

the only knock i've heard

2:04:03

on like actual car guys with zr1x they go fast as fuck it's great but it's kind

2:04:08

of doing it for you

2:04:09

like the the drive's different like it's so it's spaceship it's space it's a

2:04:14

spaceship you're luke skywalker yes

2:04:17

does not offer a manual transit tremec okay tremec has developed a six-speed

2:04:21

manual that fits a c8

2:04:23

gm considers it not real for production what does that mean but tremec makes it

2:04:28

but they make it

2:04:28

yeah tremec are they selling it is tremec not selling it or did they make it

2:04:32

just for funsies

2:04:33

i have no idea because tremec made uh the transmission on my super they make

2:04:37

the best

2:04:38

transmissions tremec's new six-speed manual transactional opens the door from

2:04:42

manual swap vets

2:04:43

and other creations so you can do it this is what i would do what i would do is

2:04:48

get a z06

2:04:52

and put a manual in it now we're cooking let's go let's go now you have

2:04:57

literally the ultimate corvette

2:04:59

i get that z06 and that there's no word yet on price timeline or who's going to

2:05:03

cook up the software

2:05:04

to tell the corvette to cooperate with three pedal transmission that is the

2:05:07

problem because you're

2:05:08

gonna have to and the ecu yeah it's a big problem yeah like the biggest problem

2:05:12

i've had is with the ecu

2:05:14

people don't realize you know the guys who do all the mods they do but it's

2:05:18

like i got a 2024 ram

2:05:20

and right away i'm like all right what mods am i going to do i'm talking to randy's

2:05:25

transmission

2:05:26

banks i'm talking my boys at diesel r and they're like you got a 2024 i'm like

2:05:29

yeah what's up low miles

2:05:30

man like i fucked up like why like because 2024 and up there's no way to unlock

2:05:38

that ecu like you have

2:05:40

we have to find an ecu from a 2022 or earlier and i'm like okay those can't be

2:05:45

expensive oh they're

2:05:47

blood diamonds because every because everybody wants that you're looking at

2:05:51

seven grand for an

2:05:52

unlocked ecu and that's just the ecu that's not adding any power that's just to

2:05:57

get it so you can

2:05:58

add the power oh my god that's crazy and then diesel r they were like dude we

2:06:01

we have one i'm like no

2:06:03

fucking way well how about this new law that they just passed where your car is

2:06:08

going to monitor

2:06:09

you and then they're going to have a kill switch in your car so to keep people

2:06:13

from drinking and

2:06:14

driving or if maybe they don't like what brendan shaw posted on twitter and

2:06:19

just shut your car down

2:06:21

i think that's um even more reason to buy old yeah a lot of reason to buy old

2:06:26

um put that please into

2:06:28

perplexity and ask them when this law is being passed and what the law entails

2:06:35

because i've been

2:06:35

hearing a lot of different versions of it i want to know what's gonna pass in

2:06:39

california first let's

2:06:40

pass nationwide and thomas massey voted against it and uh i think fetterman

2:06:46

might have voted against

2:06:47

it too i'm not sure uh real federal mandate tied to 2027 model year cars it's

2:06:53

about impaired driving

2:06:55

detection yeah but this is how it starts the problem is if it has a kill switch

2:07:00

ask ask if it has a kill

2:07:02

switch if that's part of it i mean it probably is going to be in here if it

2:07:07

right okay why people

2:07:09

call it a kill switch because the system may be able to prevent the engine from

2:07:12

starting or shut down

2:07:14

performance if it decides you're impaired so that's a kill switch so that is

2:07:20

great if you're preventing

2:07:21

someone from drinking and driving correct that is not great if you are nick fuentes

2:07:27

and you're in your car

2:07:29

and you're you know but that's the trojan horse like they get you in with that

2:07:32

it's for safety that's

2:07:33

the thing may is a keyword in there may be able well the thing about that is i

2:07:38

think they already have

2:07:39

that with the corvette i think with onstar if someone steals your car correct

2:07:44

they can shut it down

2:07:46

right so that's the security if you have a corvette and brendan chob is running

2:07:50

from the law and you're

2:07:52

trying to get to canada but can't they do that with your teslas uh that's

2:07:57

probably i mean it's a

2:07:59

computer it's a computer of course they probably can do that i'm really bummed

2:08:04

out that tesla has

2:08:05

canceled the model s jamie and i were just talking about it before the show oh

2:08:08

they could all go away

2:08:09

and i wouldn't give two fucks i know he's your boy but i just don't care i

2:08:11

listen to you do your thing

2:08:13

i drive it all the time i love it with all the cars you have i love it it's the

2:08:16

one thing i'm like i love it

2:08:19

listen i love v8s look i drove my raptor here you know raptor's badass a fanboy

2:08:25

would say they just

2:08:25

can be replaced by that roadster that they haven't shown yet so yeah but the

2:08:28

roadster's a two-seater

2:08:30

my car is a four-seater four-door car that goes zero to 60 in under two seconds

2:08:36

but why would they

2:08:37

get rid of it i've never had four because they're in my car you never would i've

2:08:40

never had four people

2:08:42

in my car you haven't but like so like the other day i had to pick up my

2:08:46

daughter because she was

2:08:48

she was being driven and the car they were driving got a flat and i was on my

2:08:52

way home at the exact

2:08:53

same time and i picked her up and her friends that's dope so i had three

2:08:57

friends in the back seat

2:08:58

one in the front yeah i got everybody in my car no problem i like having a four-door

2:09:04

i have a family

2:09:04

i know you're a single guy like for you a roadster would be fine that's just a

2:09:08

just you know not for

2:09:10

you it's a small little car anyway i'd like the x is pretty dope too they oh

2:09:13

they also cancel the x

2:09:14

i know the x is dope tiffany haddish one had one and she showed me they could

2:09:18

dance in the parking

2:09:20

lot i remember seeing that video i was like this is crazy this is crazy i only

2:09:24

do four i don't have

2:09:24

anything two-door anymore because kiddos like i just try to create the most

2:09:29

badass dad whip i can

2:09:30

yeah it has to have four doors well i mean i have two-door cars but i always

2:09:34

have to have a sedan i like

2:09:36

a sedan your kids are older though too yeah if i didn't have a tesla and i have

2:09:40

a sedan what i would get

2:09:41

is the cadillac the ct vive black black wing let's preach and you can get a

2:09:45

manual you can get the new

2:09:47

one the f1 is only in manuals the the highest horsepower 685 i don't know why i

2:09:53

couldn't say

2:09:54

that word 685 horse i know you do we both suffer from marble mouth brother 685

2:10:01

horsepower and it's only

2:10:03

manual but take my fucking money i want an automatic i think so if it's that

2:10:08

yeah manual sounds fun but if

2:10:10

you're driving all the time especially where you know if you live in l.a yeah

2:10:13

oh yeah depending on

2:10:15

where you live yeah jamie that could be you but like we were just in new jersey

2:10:18

bro that's you jamie

2:10:19

i'm not saying it's a bad car i'm just like it's uh i'm gonna drive it 10 miles

2:10:23

a day it does yeah

2:10:24

it's an awesome 10 miles no it's not dude the feeling in that car with the

2:10:29

torque and the sound of

2:10:30

the engine can't go anywhere on 35 in traffic give me some volume and let's let's

2:10:35

hear this driving one in

2:10:36

this car yeah well jamie's not really a car guy very very driving to the golf

2:10:42

course but like

2:10:43

yeah yeah that's once a week yeah much better you play the sound look at that

2:10:47

carbon around it me or

2:10:50

oh why why would they do this to me why would you have a video this and not

2:11:01

have

2:11:01

yeah you want to sell cars or not for me please um here it is just just just

2:11:12

click that though that's the

2:11:13

black oh there we go oh my dick just got hard and we can spice that up jamie

2:11:18

you send it to me for a

2:11:19

day bubba that's fine the way it comes from the factory is fine i get this just

2:11:25

mufflers something

2:11:26

i know you can get it really loud but the thing is just that alone there we go

2:11:32

come on dog

2:11:38

yeah all right i mean it's not bad yeah he's in yes dude you don't understand

2:11:46

oh cam it is i feel oh

2:11:49

that's a cammed up one that one's nuts that's what you want oh there's a lot of

2:11:53

mods dudes jack those

2:11:54

up above thousand all the time oh that's gonna get robbed out here then no

2:11:58

bubble oh come on

2:12:00

where are you talking about where are you parking you going to the ghetto to

2:12:03

buy crack i don't drive

2:12:04

anywhere so where's he going come on he's buying a nice place are you buying

2:12:09

cracks you got covered

2:12:10

parking you don't need it but it's fun i just think of gone 60 seconds when you've

2:12:15

got a dope car and

2:12:16

people know you've got a dope car and you're seen driving that dope car they're

2:12:19

gonna follow you in

2:12:20

that dope with uh our friend he got followed what's wrong with you two oh yeah

2:12:25

yeah it's gonna happen

2:12:26

i don't need that he's in dallas he's in dallas buying tacos at three in the

2:12:30

morning there's a

2:12:30

million teslas all over the bro i drive and he's got a ferrari i drive crazy is

2:12:34

different than a

2:12:35

cadillac ah i've never had any issues especially out here you can catch an

2:12:40

issue every now and then

2:12:41

but the thing about texas is everybody's armed like you you can't just roll up

2:12:45

on someone and try to

2:12:46

take their car you're risking your fucking life it happened on fifth street a

2:12:49

block away from the club

2:12:50

not too long ago yeah on right in front of edds people get carjacked in every

2:12:55

city that's a fact

2:12:56

that's why i don't like having targets not where i live come on to this come

2:13:00

come on over to the burbs

2:13:01

dude so you think if you have like one of them cyber truck so supposedly cyber

2:13:05

truck is coming out

2:13:06

with an suv maybe yeah i don't know allegedly it'd be cool elon won't tell me

2:13:10

you won't tell me

2:13:11

shit he knows i don't tell you i got a big fucking mouth there's online people

2:13:14

have showed things but

2:13:16

like we don't really know what have they what have they showed uh potential

2:13:19

like it looks a little bit

2:13:20

like uh the mix between an x and a cyber truck see that would be a smart move

2:13:24

for them to make a

2:13:26

cyber truck that's an suv it's a smart move because you already have the shape

2:13:30

just instead of having

2:13:31

the pickup truck part where no one's using yeah extend the seats yeah have the

2:13:35

seats back more

2:13:36

and you could even shorten the wheelbase a little bit and make it like you know

2:13:40

like when the smaller

2:13:41

cadillac suvs you could or you could just say all that noise and get a hellcat

2:13:46

durango because

2:13:47

stillantis does the hellcat's back baby pretty dope hellcat durango the godfather

2:13:52

the hellcat tim

2:13:53

is back running fucking dodge yes thank god thank fucking god yeah dodges

2:13:58

crushing it they got silly

2:13:59

with that electric thing it's some french guy running it is that what it was

2:14:02

killed yeah and killed all

2:14:03

america facts that's what it was boom we wanted it wanted to destroy america

2:14:07

facts that's why i went

2:14:08

poeton to beat seril gun yeah it was like the most iconic american like v8

2:14:15

powered cars in a long time

2:14:17

were dodge dodge viper well that's a v10 yeah dodge viper you had uh but just

2:14:23

big engines right you had

2:14:25

you know gasoline engines you had of course the challenger challenger hellcat

2:14:29

hellcat red eye

2:14:30

they crushed crushed it crushed it are they gonna discontinue the challenger no

2:14:34

they're coming out with

2:14:35

a gas challenger so they fucked up and came out with a challenger all electric

2:14:39

and it ate a charger

2:14:40

was a charger and a challenger too they did both right you can't change they're

2:14:46

coming out with a charger

2:14:47

that's uh gas powered yeah the charge is dope i've seen some reviews it's dope

2:14:52

it's dope and it's fast fast as

2:14:54

fuck here now we're talking jamie what do you think of that this okay here we

2:15:04

go it's a straight look at

2:15:06

that jamie here you go clubs fitting there easily yeah now we're talking the

2:15:10

durango kept dodge engine

2:15:12

that's what you need jamie you need a goddamn v8 like a you're gonna come in

2:15:15

here with a

2:15:15

fucking hairy chest fuck yeah dude goddamn american yeah that's what you need

2:15:20

that's it forget the

2:15:21

cadillac we're on to this now we're on to this we're on to this that's what you

2:15:25

need i wasn't

2:15:26

this is also people love these this is a robbery car the track hawk that's why

2:15:30

i'm off that track

2:15:31

hawks are great dude there's not that many of them yeah and people are after

2:15:35

them okay how

2:15:35

about you get a hennessy and tell them to leave the badges off hennessy's are

2:15:39

so just have hennessy

2:15:40

do it and leave the badges oh did you just looks like a regular one a sleeper i'd

2:15:44

just be worried the

2:15:45

whole time oh my god what world are you living in dude did you see hennessy did

2:15:49

a super duty

2:15:50

hennessy finally did a fourth super duty yeah i love it he does dope dude they

2:15:55

do dope mustangs

2:15:57

they do dope cadillacs they take the black wing and see that that's why with uh

2:16:01

with tubi it was like

2:16:02

let's see how these four episodes go they do you know john uh me and him had a

2:16:06

conversation you should

2:16:07

you should do a show with him that's why i want to show with him i want to go

2:16:10

to gunther yeah but john's

2:16:12

great he's up the fucking road he's great i can connect you with him he's a

2:16:15

good dude he's a

2:16:16

friend of mine me and him had a combo because when i was building my rap to get

2:16:19

to 1400 horsepower i

2:16:20

called him well i'll hook you up with gunther too yeah they're great he's peter's

2:16:24

very cool too

2:16:25

rango smokes his track hawk yeah dude oh the the durango with the hellcat he

2:16:31

started a little fast

2:16:32

if he smokes yeah that's probably not a hennessy one well those it doesn't

2:16:38

matter i mean they put a

2:16:40

hellcat one of those things you're dealing with insane horsepower it's so much

2:16:44

horsepower they're

2:16:45

awesome jamie and it sounds the red interior it's awesome well we're salespeople

2:16:49

we'll see we're

2:16:51

selling dodge that actually might have been the track hawk on the right okay

2:16:55

whichever one it was

2:16:55

either way pick your poison just get one i would 100 drive one of those 100

2:17:01

yeah i might i might get

2:17:02

one too if you get one let's go charge it how dare you you son of a you know

2:17:11

what man he's not wrong

2:17:12

though with the way gas prices are i talked to tim dylan today he was i was on

2:17:15

the phone with him when

2:17:16

i came to the studio he told me that gas is seven dollars and ninety cents a

2:17:21

gallon in l.a right now

2:17:23

and that's down from what it was i was out there a month shooting a commercial

2:17:26

and it was up to 840

2:17:27

something here's what i don't understand are we getting oil from iran no that's

2:17:34

so maybe three

2:17:35

or four percent so are they just us in the ass they just know oh americans know

2:17:40

if we go to war

2:17:41

we can increase the gas price so we just go along with it is that real or is it

2:17:45

global prices went up

2:17:47

because some of the gas can't get to where it needs to go and so it they need

2:17:51

to make that money

2:17:52

so they just you isn't it funny like they're like we're going to make money no

2:17:56

matter what yeah

2:17:57

the american people are going to lose money so we make the same amount of money

2:18:01

and also you need

2:18:03

oil but my whole thing is even like when you know when we go to war people like

2:18:07

yeah they're just doing

2:18:07

it for money it's like how much money do they need they're all rich anyway

2:18:11

american gas prices are rising

2:18:13

mainly because crude oil has become more expensive due to the war with iran and

2:18:17

disruptions in global oil

2:18:18

supply plus normal seasons and cost factors and refining distribution and taxes

2:18:23

biggest driver

2:18:24

crude oil in the iran war but what if we got all our oil from america which we

2:18:30

can do well if we

2:18:30

did that why would oil go up because look because it goes up prices are tied to

2:18:35

global oil market well

2:18:36

that's just start selling it that's stupid yeah yeah the market yeah but they're

2:18:42

a bunch of crooks

2:18:43

they're a bunch of crooks yes they we should have a national oil company and

2:18:48

only sell in america

2:18:51

keep it in-house so no matter what right there foul we do outside the world

2:18:56

companies can still sell

2:18:57

wherever they want yeah even though us is the world's largest oil producer

2:19:01

companies can sell

2:19:02

oil on the global market to whoever pays the highest price and it fucks us high

2:19:06

world prices still

2:19:07

translate into high domestic gas prices hey mr president please fix that i don't

2:19:13

know if he can

2:19:14

do that they'll kill him they try to kill him three times already you try to

2:19:17

you try to with that oil

2:19:18

money oh but all sudden president jd is crying on tv i'm gonna miss i'm gonna

2:19:23

miss donald he was a great

2:19:26

mentor to me and though i didn't always agree with everything he said and i

2:19:30

wish he didn't post that

2:19:31

picture of him as jesus i dude what are you doing hey you know what's crazy to

2:19:38

me is there's been like

2:19:39

three legit assassination attempts and it's in the news two three days and we're

2:19:43

just like yeah it's

2:19:44

crazy and we move on well there was another one that barely made the news where

2:19:48

a guy showed up and

2:19:49

tried to attack jd you remember that guy no yeah see i know this guy showed up

2:19:55

i think it was at the

2:19:57

white house i think some guy showed up at the white you see this guy who just

2:20:02

got killed in or got shot

2:20:03

in cambridge so this guy he uh had a shootout with the cops three years ago

2:20:10

went to jail for three

2:20:12

years got out and was walking down the street in cambridge he uh just unloading

2:20:17

his gun on

2:20:17

yeah just shooting random people on the street this guy had gotten a shootout

2:20:24

with the cops and only

2:20:25

did three years that's insane dude he got a shootout with the cops i think 20

2:20:29

bullets were exchanged

2:20:31

and he only did three years bro here's the other problem is i saw they took a

2:20:35

again whoever's doing

2:20:36

these polls you gotta be an idiot to get stopped on the street and look at this

2:20:39

guy this is wild he's

2:20:41

just walking on the street shooting at cars bro by the way i'm running that guy

2:20:46

over oh thousand

2:20:48

especially for my my toyota my land cruiser where i know it's not gonna mess up

2:20:51

my car

2:20:53

that's insane meanwhile if i was in cambridge though i'd probably go to jail

2:20:56

for life 100 you're

2:20:57

fucked yeah for defending the public but i saw a survey said one in four americans

2:21:03

think the

2:21:04

assassination temps on the president are fake i wonder what percentage think

2:21:08

the world's flat one in four

2:21:10

yeah the people that thought that the butler pennsylvania one was staged don't

2:21:17

know anything about guns

2:21:18

that's a fact i don't know anybody who knows anything about guns that thinks

2:21:23

that the president would let

2:21:24

some guy nick his ear with a bullet so dumb that is in the guy behind him the

2:21:29

firefighter who lost his

2:21:31

life that guy got shot by a bullet that was intended for trump and then there's

2:21:34

a photo of a bullet whizzing

2:21:36

by his face anybody that thinks that that staged is out of their mind or the

2:21:41

guy that the correspondence

2:21:43

dinner who rushed in yeah they think that's fake it's like hold on so you think

2:21:47

this guy who's a teacher

2:21:48

educated clearly kind of had his together threw away his life well tim burchette

2:21:54

who i had on the

2:21:55

podcast congressman yeah he thinks that guy was like some sort of an mk ultra

2:22:00

type deal and he says he

2:22:02

he thinks they still do that he thinks someone's still doing i've always

2:22:05

thought that i'm not trying

2:22:06

to steal i'm sure he has way better points than me but if they did mk ultra all

2:22:10

those years ago when

2:22:11

you go through the list of charles manson the unabomber you think it stopped

2:22:15

right and you don't think

2:22:16

they've gotten better with it exactly so you just think they're like okay the

2:22:20

public knows we're going

2:22:21

to shut this down no dude yeah they just they expand it gets better and better

2:22:26

and better for sure

2:22:27

they're still doing that and that could have been thomas crooks too the guy who

2:22:30

tried to shoot trump

2:22:31

in butler pennsylvania yep that one was weird as fuck that one's so weird

2:22:35

because that guy's uh

2:22:37

house was professionally scrubbed he didn't even have silverware there he had

2:22:41

no online activity he had

2:22:43

no like social media black rock ties have you heard anything about him nope

2:22:48

gone how weird is that

2:22:49

dude vanished like what about the charlie kirk guy what about the guy who

2:22:53

killed charlie right we haven't

2:22:54

heard nothing one interview with them is that not weird dude it's super weird

2:22:57

nearly one-third of

2:22:58

americans 30 percent believe that at least 30 percent at least one of the three

2:23:03

attempts on donald

2:23:04

president's life over the last two years were staged wow for each attempted

2:23:09

assassination a majority of

2:23:11

americans said either that it was staged or that were they were not sure 54

2:23:16

percent said they either

2:23:17

thought it was staged or not sure and that's the problem only 38 percent of

2:23:21

americans believe all three

2:23:22

assassination attempts were authentic this is tick tock it's fucking that's the

2:23:27

brains that's the

2:23:28

fucking problem rotten their brains out from inside their heads i know it's not

2:23:32

good meanwhile you go on

2:23:33

chinese tick tock it's all like traditional dance and martial arts built

2:23:38

science projects yeah it shuts

2:23:40

down for kids after 10 p.m yeah and like americans have fun yeah they write

2:23:44

your brain they're doing such a

2:23:46

great job crush and then they sold it right so they sold it to that american

2:23:50

company and they're just going to

2:23:52

continue doing what the chinese did and make the most amount of money which is

2:23:56

rotten people's brains out

2:23:57

don't give a fuck wouldn't it be dope if this american company that bought it

2:24:00

said hey there's clearly a

2:24:02

problem with how things are emphasized and what your algorithm shows you and

2:24:06

what we're going to do is

2:24:08

promote like exceptional people doing exceptional things don't you think they

2:24:12

would get more users

2:24:13

because as a dad i'd be like okay you guys can have tick tock they there's some

2:24:17

rules there

2:24:19

it's an educational thing now not a fucking chance dude no it wouldn't get more

2:24:24

it would uh it would

2:24:25

go right over to instagram which is like instagram's all assassinations what if

2:24:29

they did across the board

2:24:30

you would have to have no one cross that picket line and they all would because

2:24:35

people are addicted to

2:24:36

watching fucked up street fights and crazy things now like my algorithm is all

2:24:42

like people fighting in

2:24:43

parking lots and there's so much of that man mine's just trucks cars and fights

2:24:50

on instagram yeah so my

2:24:52

problem is me and segura every day send each other the worst thing what we find

2:24:56

online i don't start my

2:24:57

day like that i don't either i don't either but it's too late but that's the

2:25:03

only time i'm going to

2:25:04

instagram now the only time and then i'll check my you've kind of gotten off of

2:25:09

it right yeah this is

2:25:10

so much better i feel so much better i go in occasionally and check twitter to

2:25:15

see what the

2:25:16

news is like what's trending what's what you're not like reading the comments

2:25:19

and all no no and i don't

2:25:21

even go into the news feed because i used to go into the news feed with

2:25:24

everything i find things about

2:25:26

me all the time like i don't want to hear what a douchebag i am that's a bummer

2:25:29

like come on

2:25:30

i'm not here for that i know it sucks but it's so i can't avoid people getting

2:25:34

mad at me or even

2:25:35

saying nice things about me i don't want to read that no i think what's better

2:25:40

is uh i go to the

2:25:41

trending stuff and find out what the news is so then i'll click on like what

2:25:46

the is going on

2:25:47

and i'll check that out like that's how i found out about this guy with the gun

2:25:49

and you feel so much

2:25:50

better right way better but i um also more often than not now not going there

2:25:56

for my news and i've

2:25:57

kind of curated my google news feed smart to be much more interesting like i

2:26:02

get more stories and

2:26:03

it'll show me stories from x yeah so then i can decide whether or not i want to

2:26:07

actually open up

2:26:08

that's cool to read the story and did you stop drinking too i did and i went

2:26:12

back i'm back how back

2:26:14

are you not back crazy but i'll have a couple of drinks every now and then i

2:26:18

haven't gotten drunk

2:26:19

since i've been back dude i've been sober over two years now that's not almost

2:26:23

three feel good

2:26:24

feel great never been in better shape yeah it's i feel it's definitely better

2:26:28

for you but i do like

2:26:29

a glass of wine or two with dinner and i do like a drink or two with the boys

2:26:32

when we're at the club

2:26:33

every now and then yeah but i just i was doing it too much me too and then i

2:26:36

recognized and so i stopped

2:26:38

yeah just it wasn't benefiting me and then also you know i have addictive

2:26:42

personality like if i do

2:26:44

something i gotta be all in like on cars like literally one day i woke up like

2:26:47

i don't need 11

2:26:49

cars and half of them are trucks and they're all the same you know it's just

2:26:54

like when i get into

2:26:55

something i get so into it now but i'm getting as i'm getting older i'm getting

2:26:58

better checking

2:26:58

myself good that's good getting better at um that is very important to managing

2:27:04

your life growing

2:27:04

really important it's growing up well it's also just realizing that there's

2:27:08

some addictions that

2:27:09

are just not beneficial at all and then other ones that are really beneficial

2:27:13

so just get addicted

2:27:14

doing things that are good for you yeah facts you know but that's the problem

2:27:18

is that you know a lot

2:27:20

of people can't regulate their addictions well they're just not good at it and

2:27:24

so they just get

2:27:26

caught up and you know it could be anything oh you know yeah to preach that's

2:27:31

me yeah but it's also

2:27:32

that same thing is what causes people to get good at stuff correct which is

2:27:37

weird you know like if you

2:27:39

show me a dude who can't get addicted to anything like not there's not one

2:27:42

thing that is taking up

2:27:43

too much of your time i probably can't hang out correct and it's not good yeah

2:27:47

not good yeah because

2:27:48

that same obsession is what led me got me to the ufc or football exactly

2:27:52

exactly like being all in on

2:27:54

something i think is uh where that's where obsession can lead the scary one for

2:28:00

me i think not for me

2:28:01

personally but when i see it is gambling super scary because i see people that

2:28:06

are really rich

2:28:07

not just dana but other people that i know that are really rich that gamble big

2:28:11

numbers and it freaks

2:28:13

me out like big poker games and crazy amounts of money they gamble and stuff

2:28:18

and i was like i don't

2:28:20

like that like that doesn't you get your rocks off in other ways i think for

2:28:24

those like super rich

2:28:25

people like that's kind of like they can buy any car they can buy any house or

2:28:30

go on a trip

2:28:31

in order to get their rocks off that's how they do it yeah but it has to be it

2:28:35

has to be a big number

2:28:36

for them to feel it the juice has to be so high if they bet a hundred bucks on

2:28:38

something they don't

2:28:39

even vote that doesn't mean they might not even cash that ticket like they don't

2:28:43

feel it you know how

2:28:44

you and i are similar with obsession do you do your kiddos have that do you see

2:28:49

it in anything oh yeah

2:28:49

oh yeah positive super driven but it's very positive kids imitate the

2:28:53

atmosphere that they

2:28:54

grow up in and if your parents have a hard work ethic and they're disciplined

2:28:58

and they're kind

2:28:59

generally speaking that's how your kids come out yeah i think that so when i

2:29:02

see shitty kids yeah i

2:29:04

generally genuinely think that it's at least part of it is from the parents

2:29:09

dude i coach my son's uh

2:29:11

baseball and football teams the crazy parents i deal with buddy dude and i it

2:29:18

for the kid

2:29:19

uh and i try to talk to the dads because most of them respect me so i'll go hey

2:29:23

can i give you some

2:29:24

advice man you gotta back off dude but they can't they can't it's that they can't

2:29:28

and you'd have to

2:29:29

change who they are and i tell them i'm like i'm i'm trying to help you out

2:29:33

here you're you're you love

2:29:36

baseball whatever you love football your son has told me he wants to quit now

2:29:40

the reason he wants to

2:29:42

quit is because you've made it not fun right he used to love this game when i

2:29:46

first got here nothing he

2:29:47

loved more than football now he wants to quit because you've made it a job for

2:29:52

him you've

2:29:52

up dude and who's it gonna affect a it's gonna suck for him because he likes

2:29:56

football

2:29:56

you're you're not gonna be able to watch your kid play football dude could you

2:29:59

decide to make it

2:30:00

not fun you're gonna up your relationship with your kid facts i don't try i don't

2:30:05

force my kids

2:30:05

into doing it other than they have to go to school i don't force my kids into

2:30:08

doing anything they

2:30:09

don't want to do if they're not interested in it you don't have to do it but

2:30:13

find something you are

2:30:14

interested in that's my thing whatever you're into let's ride i don't give a

2:30:17

what it's just so

2:30:18

happens it's baseball football cool let's ride man yeah but if you have a great

2:30:22

personality for that

2:30:23

and that you're very encouraging your kids but you're not you're not it's just

2:30:27

it's not you thinking

2:30:29

that like your self-worth is not tied up to your kids performance no you just

2:30:33

want your kids to have

2:30:35

fun yep the problem is with some people their kid is almost like their racehorse

2:30:41

or something

2:30:42

you know what i mean like it's like their it's their whole personality gets

2:30:45

wrapped around their

2:30:46

kid being an elite athlete brother and and now it's worse because especially in

2:30:50

base right it's like

2:30:51

uh it's it's a business now it's over a billion dollar business so now it's

2:30:55

like there's these travel

2:30:56

ball when i was a kid you have to be really good well now every parent wants to

2:31:00

say their kids travel

2:31:02

ball so there's the majors and there's two teams at the majors there's three

2:31:05

triple a three double a

2:31:06

three single a i just want my i don't need the best 10 year old i just want

2:31:10

them playing so i don't

2:31:12

give up he made the majors team i don't give a fuck it's majors triple a wreck

2:31:16

we're playing wherever

2:31:17

have fun have fun and get and apply yourself to something and apply yourself

2:31:22

and i don't give a

2:31:24

fuck whether what level we're at we'll play at all and some of the parents i'll

2:31:27

come back from a

2:31:28

tournament like oh you played double a i'm like yeah it's baseball man you what

2:31:32

you think he can

2:31:34

only play majors so what i can sit around the cool with a water cooler and brag

2:31:38

to you guys i don't

2:31:39

give a crazy that people will like talk down about a kid who's not playing as

2:31:43

good as other kids

2:31:44

oh it's like what are you but you know that's the it's like stage moms you know

2:31:50

there's a thing like

2:31:50

that with that to your point yeah he's tied up in them but they what they don't

2:31:54

realize that they're

2:31:55

fucking it all up oh yeah it's all gonna get fucked up i've seen that with a

2:31:59

lot of young uh actors

2:32:01

where their parents were like super involved in their career and then the kid

2:32:04

just did not want

2:32:05

to do it anymore and generally like i've seen it a few times and one of them

2:32:09

that i know really well

2:32:10

where the parents stole money from the kid dude yeah he stole like six million

2:32:15

dollars i'll tell you

2:32:16

who it is after the show that's terrible oh it's awful it's awful it's like

2:32:19

devastated them to find out

2:32:21

but it's like that's what they're doing they're using the kid as a piggy bank

2:32:25

they quit working

2:32:26

they relied entirely on the kid the kid's acting and let's pressure on the kid

2:32:30

oh i gotta afford

2:32:31

all this so we can live and i'm nine not only that but then you know the kid

2:32:35

starts feeling like

2:32:37

hey this is my money yeah i can't have cereal go yourself yeah he's the boss

2:32:44

yeah i mean he he had

2:32:46

problems with it too they all have problems with it and then on top of that it's

2:32:49

just super unhealthy

2:32:51

for your kid to get famous when they're 10. horrible also for pretending

2:32:55

horrible famous for pretending

2:32:57

that's what how's that gonna affect your personality yeah well there's a lot of

2:33:02

parents out there man

2:33:04

that just um but they don't understand you're you're developing a human being

2:33:08

and one of the reasons

2:33:09

they don't understand is they're not developed well correct they're fucking

2:33:11

nuts or it the biggest

2:33:13

problems usually the parents who never played right and they like man they'll

2:33:19

see just a glimpse that

2:33:20

their son has some talent and then it's they're the worst did your kid into

2:33:24

cars you big time oh

2:33:25

that's nice big time you gotta teach them how to drive so they don't do

2:33:28

something stupid when they

2:33:29

get old that's what i tell them all the time all the fucking time yeah don't

2:33:32

know they're gonna learn

2:33:33

how to drive a manual it's the easiest way to your car jamie you want to make

2:33:36

sure your car didn't get

2:33:37

stolen buy a manual the criminals these days don't even know how to drive one

2:33:40

do you don't drive one

2:33:41

sure oh he's gonna burn that clutch look at him i haven't done it in a long

2:33:45

time you could figure

2:33:46

it out right now yeah especially if you're only driving 10 miles a day perfect

2:33:51

candidate i just don't

2:33:53

want to uh it's disappointing yeah no like my kids know there's like there's so

2:34:00

many other cars in the

2:34:02

world it doesn't have to be that one what do you like i don't get so i don't i'm

2:34:05

not driving anywhere

2:34:06

okay okay okay okay but let's just put all that aside what what cars do you

2:34:12

look at you oh i like that

2:34:13

or do you look at a car that you like and go that's a target no it's uh if it's

2:34:17

one i like it it ends up

2:34:19

honestly being like uh like an x6 somewhere in that range x5 x6 amg glee okay

2:34:25

okay now we're talking

2:34:27

somewhere in there those are i'll tell you what whoever made the new grills on

2:34:34

the bmw should be

2:34:36

dick slap into the hospital like like what the did you do to one of the most

2:34:48

iconic grills and

2:34:49

they hit like the m4s like blah yeah what did you do it's they they're just

2:34:55

trying to switch it up you

2:34:57

know and they miss but they let that go through bring that up the only one that

2:35:03

looks good or looks

2:35:04

decent is the seven series there's something about the proportions of the seven

2:35:08

series with that big

2:35:09

grill it doesn't bother me that m2 is tasty too though okay that's dope those

2:35:12

things you cook they

2:35:14

didn't get it goofy with the grills yeah come on with that they've sort of

2:35:19

fixed it as time's gone

2:35:20

by but it's still got a big gap like that's yeah i don't like it the earlier

2:35:24

ones were the grossest ones

2:35:26

but look at that right there with the lower i'm sorry the that one's good but

2:35:30

the left one the white

2:35:32

one the white one yeah that's it look at that's perfect that's perfect that's

2:35:37

pretty that's perfect

2:35:38

do you still have the m5 uh no but i do have uh the e46 m3 oh yeah those are

2:35:44

cool the 2005 that was

2:35:46

awesome that one's great that was literally a perfect car that's a great car

2:35:50

like like that one that one's

2:35:52

gross that grill the lower right one the bronze colored one black yeah my

2:35:57

brother has that new m2

2:35:59

manual and that thing fucking oh m2s are amazing those are amazing the bmw to

2:36:04

their credit is still

2:36:05

making manual transmissions which is a little better do they make a manual in

2:36:10

the m5 they don't right

2:36:12

i don't think so i think the m5 is only does it make a manual the m5s are so

2:36:18

heavy now that's their issue

2:36:20

yeah it's like manual's not the first thing coming up yeah i don't think they

2:36:24

make it a manual

2:36:25

transmission anymore see if it says manual transmission that one's automatic

2:36:33

yeah i think they make the m4

2:36:36

manual yeah oh six speed but that's the e60 v10 that's an old one those are

2:36:42

dope the v10s are cool

2:36:44

v10 sound amazing yeah they sound amazing my uh e46 is not that fast there it

2:36:51

is that's old yeah yeah so

2:36:53

the last that does those the last ones they made in the manual but my uh e46 is

2:36:58

small it's it that's

2:37:00

what you want doesn't weigh a lot it handles really good it's got hydraulic

2:37:03

steering manual transmission

2:37:05

and uh you know it's a dinan so it has a supercharger on it so it's a little

2:37:11

faster so it's like 400

2:37:12

something horsepower but monster dude it's just fun it's just you feel it while

2:37:16

you're driving it

2:37:18

and they look something weird and i was trying to track that said that they got

2:37:21

two over that were

2:37:22

unless there's only two vehicles here what does it say might be it might be

2:37:26

just not an american thing

2:37:27

does that make no those are old no i know i'll show you what i saw oh that they

2:37:32

so put put in 2026

2:37:34

bmw m5 manual i just saw that we got two versions of the bmw m5 with a manual

2:37:40

that the rest of the

2:37:41

world missed out on that's what i saw it was clicking on when does that though

2:37:45

if you click on it i think

2:37:46

2025 right but i think they're talking about old cars i think they're doing a

2:37:51

history but bmw still has

2:37:53

it says two versions they're talking about older cars bmw still has great interiors

2:37:58

too oh yeah some

2:37:58

manufacturers still do it right bmw does it right they're they're really good

2:38:02

it's a solid car

2:38:03

and the m the new m5 even if it isn't a manual is a screamer of a car they're

2:38:08

monsters yeah but they

2:38:09

have to make them hybrids now i know because of all the fucking all the

2:38:14

environmental you see trump

2:38:15

got rid of the the engines the engine start you know how when you stop oh yeah

2:38:20

he got rid of that

2:38:21

that's good yeah that's i don't like that drives me nuts and i don't like that

2:38:25

and some cars i have

2:38:26

to press the don't do that at every red light don't do that hate it don't do

2:38:29

that hate it

2:38:30

you're not saving anything all you're doing is cooking my starter yeah because

2:38:36

the starter's

2:38:37

got to start how crazy trump was like i'm getting rid of that it's so annoying

2:38:40

parking next to one of

2:38:41

these oh is that a maserati yeah it's sick oh boy those are cool in person they're

2:38:47

really nice

2:38:47

oh those are dope that's a beautiful car why don't you get one of them jimmy

2:38:51

well

2:38:52

what's up i don't know he's worried about the attention i just had a tire

2:38:58

problem for

2:38:58

i didn't go that far this model s tires just like fell apart after 10 000 miles

2:39:04

i know that that was weird maintenance things the way your tires fell apart was

2:39:08

weird that

2:39:08

didn't make any sense because he said he had a flat tire and then he got a look

2:39:12

at it and it's like

2:39:12

there's the wires around he'd worn down the the tread at 10 000 miles well that's

2:39:18

the problem with

2:39:19

electric car because they're so heavy so you're going through tires faster but

2:39:22

i didn't think it would

2:39:23

be that fast 10 000 miles is crazy you might be driving like a maniac i bet he

2:39:28

is yeah it's going

2:39:29

sideways the wire dude you know ratchet you gotta be to wear down to the wire i

2:39:33

think it's the weight

2:39:34

yeah it's the weight because we looked it up and it was like 15 000 miles so he's

2:39:38

just a little bit

2:39:39

more lead foot a little more lead foot lead foot jamie just a sign to get out

2:39:44

of them as he gets

2:39:44

older we're talking on lead foot jamie these are dope austin martin's are dope

2:39:48

yeah now we're talking

2:39:50

come on jv you know some good shit here we go blackwing cadillac okay okay you

2:39:58

don't like the

2:39:58

cadillac okay that's fine awesome okay it's fine everybody has different tastes

2:40:03

that's fine as long

2:40:05

as you like that you like something dude i'll go on facebook marketplace for

2:40:08

you we'll get you track

2:40:10

hawks we'll get you aston martin's gotta get something we gotta get him

2:40:14

something fun let's let

2:40:16

let's know the budget dude seems a little hesitant yeah but he does seem open

2:40:20

to it yeah well you drove

2:40:22

race cars before around the track that's fun that's i do that all the time but

2:40:25

you could buy a car that

2:40:27

you can drive we're gonna have a don't want studio at the track more fun to not

2:40:30

drive your own race car

2:40:32

that's true that's true you don't worry about it up that's a good point so your

2:40:35

show's on 2b

2:40:37

show's on 2b gearhead's gone wild there's four episodes um and are you

2:40:41

releasing new ones you can binge

2:40:43

watch all four of them right now and then if the four do well they're gonna

2:40:46

order a bunch more and

2:40:47

that's where i do hennessey gun i got some and how long are each show uh i

2:40:52

think they're like 28 minutes

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each yeah okay cool and it's gearheads gone wild yes they're on 2b yep because

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it might be the first

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time i ever go to 2b i've never been to 2b please do but i did i i only heard

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about it like a year ago

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i just found out about it three months ago i just can't believe it has that

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many

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fucking when they're like we got a buyer to be i'm like okay let's do it they've

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been awesome

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that's great it's easy to watch yeah well someone's gonna be watching it there's

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that many people

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uh but it sounds awesome dude it's fine i'm glad you're doing something that

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you enjoy

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it's our all right brother you'll love it man thanks for doing this i love you

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thank you

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thank you all right goodbye everybody see you