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RZA is a rapper, record producer, musician, actor, and director. He is the de facto leader of the Wu-Tang Clan.
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So the guy that did your bar flying guillotine is the same guy that did the
mothership.
Oh wow. Richard Weiss. Yeah, Richard, the same designer, architect who did your
bar.
I have a flying guillotine t-shirt that I wear sometimes. I was trying to find
it this morning.
Couldn't find it. I wore mine yesterday. I went to the Alamo Draft House and
did a screening of the film.
And I said, would it be appropriate to wear my Staten Island Alamo Draft House
to them?
And the guy there, he was like, he wanted to wear his because he stole a stack
from Staten Island, but he couldn't find no more.
I've got it somewhere. I've got it somewhere in my house.
And I was scrambling this morning looking for it, looking for that t-shirt. I
couldn't find it.
Well, we got to send you some more.
Definitely, definitely. So it's great to see you again, man.
Back at you, man. Back at you. Just, uh, I got questions for you.
What do you got?
Well, I was thinking, like, well, remember you had this place in Woodland Hills?
Yes.
That was, what, eight years now?
We've been out here for six, six years.
So about six years ago.
Yeah, you were there like eight years ago, I think.
Yeah. Um, and I just remember you having, uh, the, like, the hyperbolic...
Hyperbaric chamber?
Yeah, the hyperbaric chamber. Do you still, are you still doing that?
Yeah. Was that what it was or was it the sensory deprivation tank?
Oh, the one where you float?
Yeah. Is that that, because we had that at the studio.
Okay.
We didn't have a hyperbaric at the studio.
Okay, so...
But I do have a hyperbaric.
You have that now here?
Yeah, not here. I have it at my house. Yeah.
Yeah, I just was always impressed at, um, just your consciousness on things
that are unique, right?
And, and, uh, I just, you know, and as time goes on, sometimes, you know, as we
evolve, whether we evolve in physically, mentally, spiritually, or economically,
sometimes we leave certain things behind.
Right.
And I was, I said, I wonder if Joe keep moving his chi in the same direction.
So that, that's my question to you.
Well, sometimes it gets caught up in momentum and you got to step back and just
realign yourself.
That's, that's definitely a factor.
Like sometimes I'm too busy and I get too caught up in momentum of things and
you kind of like lose, like, why am I doing this?
Like, what is the, what's the process?
Like, what, what is the reason for doing all this?
But vacation always fixes that.
Like you take a few days off and you go, okay.
Like, now I enjoy it.
Yeah.
And I, I feel the same, to be honest, I've been running around for like, uh, I
don't know, for like eight days straight.
And I like to kind of make sure I exercise, do my tai chi or something or
stretch my body.
Uh, but, um, I was telling my wife last night, like, yo, I haven't worked out
since we've been moving.
And, uh, but I've been drinking every night.
So I'm like, I gotta, um, so today, this morning, it'll be, before I came here,
I got up a little bit earlier and I went and stretched and got all that out.
And that's what made this question come to my head.
It was like, I wonder, like, as we grow and we become more and more involved
and we get in whatever it is in life that's given us, how we get in these
blessings.
But how far do we get away from the blessings that kind of made us solid?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I try not to get as far.
I try to stay as close as possible to, like, centering my body.
Like, if I don't work out, like, just a couple days in a row, I start feeling
weird.
Right.
Just two days.
Right.
Two days, I just start feeling like, yeah, crack, crack, crack, crack.
I feel antsy, I feel irritated, just, I don't think, I think I'm thinking clear,
I don't feel relaxed.
I think I'm the same.
Maybe for me it's three and a half days.
Well, what drives me nuts is, like, how many people out there, that's their
whole life.
There's no exercise in their life.
Like, my God, you're doing yourself such a disservice.
Yeah.
You're not, you're not a, your mind, not just your body, but your mind needs
that.
You need to blow out some steam and run the machine and stretch it out and
relax it afterwards and recenter yourself.
And if you don't do that, you're going to be anxious.
There's so many people are dealing with, like, constant crippling anxiety all
the time.
And how many of those people don't exercise?
Right.
I think that in Shaolin philosophy, we, you know, there's Qi Gong, right?
And there's the, the, the Qi travels through your blood.
So you got to always continue to have the blood moving because the blood is the
supply you have, but the oxygen, you know, gets it in and oxidates it and just
keeps it flowing.
And when you do stretching or you do exercises or you build up your respiration,
it actually energizes the blood, which energizes every part of your body.
That Qi travels through every vessel and every meridian of your body.
And it actually does enhance you and, and, and re-vigorate you.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
Fires up your endorphins, fires up your endocrine system.
Everything just feels better.
And it calms you down.
I feel like human beings are almost like batteries.
Like you're storing energy all the time.
But if you, if you've got too much energy, it's leaking out of the battery and
you're, you're not, you're not purging some of it.
You got to, you got to, your body has like human requirements for movement.
Right.
And if you don't, if you don't use those requirements, if you don't meet those
requirements, you're just going to feel like shit.
And I think that's a big part of what's wrong with society today.
There's just way too many people that aren't doing that.
And they're just tense and they're, they're tense, anxious feeling that, and
the mental health problems that come with that.
It just spills over into everything else.
Right.
I got, I got to agree with you.
And, um, I know that people that like my Sifu Xian Ming, who, uh, he probably
works out like six times a day because he has to train.
He has individual clients.
Right.
Right.
Right.
But, um, I think Sifu is maybe 10 years, 10 years old, 10 years older than me.
Look, 10 years younger than me.
Right.
Of course.
You know what I mean?
Because he's just constantly, uh, moving that chi and exercising.
He's, he still could kiss his toes.
Uh, in his sixties.
Wow.
Like, babies could do that.
Right.
Right.
He still could kiss his toes like a baby.
Um, but he said something to me that I, that I, that I took just heed to for
myself.
I said, uh, Sifu, why do you, like, why do you work out so much?
Right.
He gave me two answers.
He says, one, it feels good.
It makes me feel so good.
But then the other answer he gave me was that because in Shaolin, when you get
up in the morning, you have to exercise, run up a mountain.
Run back down the mountain, do chores and all that before you eat.
And he said, if you don't do that, you don't eat.
And so I was like, well, that sounds like something from the Bible where it
says that, uh, man should work to the sweat of his brow.
You know what I mean?
And I took that philosophy.
So I know I don't normally eat in the morning.
I would normally get up.
I mean, I drink coffee now.
So I've been drinking coffee about 10 years, I think.
Uh, but I will have some coffee, some water and bam-a-lam-a.
I, I, I get into my exercise routine when I'm home.
I think that's the best way to start a day.
Yeah.
I do the same.
I don't work out.
I don't eat rather before I work out.
Right.
I always work out first.
Right.
So, cause we didn't, then the, then the water is fresher.
The food tastes better.
Yeah.
You earned it too.
Exactly.
Yeah.
You earned it.
It's just a good way to start the day too.
You already did the hard part.
The most difficult part of your day is done.
Right.
And then everything else.
And also like that difficult thing makes the mental difficulty of the rest of
the day work smoother.
Yeah.
You have a, remember that old commercial, um, the army commercial.
Which one?
It was like, we do by 6 a.m.
Yeah.
So she's like, we do before 6 a.m.
What most people do all day.
Yeah.
It's like back when you first, you know, when I saw that I was young, I was
like, I don't know what the fuck they talking about.
But as a man, I'm like, you know, that's, that's, that's wisdom.
Get up in the morning, get your chi going, uh, and have a beautiful day.
There's something too to getting up early where you, you force yourself to work.
You force yourself to rise.
The comforter of your bed calls you, but you go, fuck you.
You get up, you get shit done.
And you're like, I already won.
I won today.
I've got a victory.
I've got a victory over my inner bitch.
You know, I got out there.
I did something.
I'm laughing.
No, because you say you told me to bed.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
That's what you have to say.
You have to get up almost angry.
Fuck you.
No, you're not going to call me in there with your octopus tentacles and suck
me into your depths.
Your depths of warmth and comfort.
No, fuck you.
Get up.
Get up.
Get going.
That's why I like to get in the cold first thing.
That's my morning routine is cold plunge before I work out.
That's deep.
Yeah.
I can't do that.
Now, that is, that's kind of extreme for me.
I'm, you know, I'm not fucking with the cold like that.
You get used to it.
I'm telling you.
You get used to it.
It becomes like a normal thing.
How long do you stay in there?
Three minutes.
Wow.
It sucks, but every time I do it, I almost don't do it.
Every time I do it, I'm almost like, don't do this.
I don't want to do this.
Fuck this.
Right.
And then I get in like, oh, we're doing it.
We're doing it.
And then I take my phone and I set, I got a little kickstand on the back of my
phone,
you know?
So I put the timer on there and I look at it and it's all like, it's at a
minute.
So I'm like, all right, we're good.
We're past the minute.
Once you get past the minute.
The minute mark is the tough part.
Once you pass the minute, it's pretty easy to get to three minutes.
You just relax.
I only did one ice bath and it was, they had bought this Tibetan llama to New
York.
And it was me, I forgot the brother name.
We was doing this TV show thing and they were trying to find out, they like,
they were scanning
our brains and see what would happen if we got in the cold bath before
meditating, then
meditate it and then get back in.
So it was some science.
And I said, yeah, I'll do it.
I don't know why I agreed to it, but I did it.
Right.
But, uh, I got in that motherfucker, bro.
And when I got in there, I was like, this is not the shit.
I'm like this.
And the host, he got in too.
Now, I don't know if that was his first time or not, but he was younger than me,
skinnier
than me.
You know what I mean?
And when I couldn't take it no more, around one minute and whatever, it was
past the minute
mark, I got the fuck out.
But he was still in there.
And I was like, I can't have this motherfucker beat me.
And yo, I got back in.
Nice.
You know what I mean?
And they got some footage of that.
I think I stayed in, I don't think it was three minutes, but I think I really
impressed
myself because I'm super anti-cold.
You know what I mean?
I run hot.
I stay hot.
I'm the hot part of getting, you know, when my wife is cold, she just put her
hand on me
and I'm the heater.
So cold is like something that, um...
Yeah, I don't like it.
Right.
I don't enjoy it.
But there's a little mind game that goes on.
And the mind game is almost immediately, you're like, oh, fuck this.
Let's just, let's get out of here.
Let's get out of here.
You got to ignore that and just concentrate on breathing.
So what I do is I breathe to a count of 10.
So I do this one, two, three.
And I just concentrate on the numbers.
And then by the time I get to 10, it's basically like a minute and I'm relaxed.
And then I just settle in there.
It's just, you concentrate on breathing and don't think about that part of you
that wants
to get out.
Right.
So I think I'm going to try a cold shower.
It's really good.
Cold shower in New York is great if you, like in the winter, because that's
real cold.
That's real cold.
Like, that's like, I used to take cold showers and my friend, Bob Caffarella,
he used to
do this at our Taekwondo school.
He would take cold showers after training.
And I was like, that guy is an fucking animal.
And I tried it a couple of times, but I was a bitch.
I did it like 15 seconds and I jumped out.
But he would just stay there in the cold, freezing cold winter, cold water and
just wash himself.
And I was like, this guy's an animal, man.
I think my brother Kung Lee, I haven't seen Kung Lee in years.
Kung Lee the fighter?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember we was, because we did a movie years ago in China, but he was, he
was the
cold plunger of the crew.
Oh yeah.
Kung, he's ahead of the curve on all that shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just, it's the mental thing is where it really, where it benefits you.
And not just while you're in it, like doing it because you don't want to do it,
but when
you get out, you feel so good.
Your brain just is flooded with all these endorphins.
He feels so good and it lasts for hours and hours.
I'm going to revisit that.
I think there's like, there's numbers on the dopamine increase, but I forget
what they are
off the top of my head, but there's a giant increase in dopamine that lasts
like two to
three hours after you're getting out of the cold plunge.
Wow.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
But I know you are, you're a long time martial arts student.
And I think anybody that does martial arts for a long time realizes that it is
as
much for your mind as it is for anything else.
Yes.
Like it's not just a workout, it's a workout, but it's also like, there's
something about
going through the motions of, of martial arts and training in martial arts.
It's so, it's, it's, it requires so much concentration and it requires so much
of your focus that the
rest of the world just kind of fades away and, and the impact of it is relaxed.
Right.
Because of that.
It's mental, physical, and spiritual.
Yeah.
Uh, it's emotional.
Yeah.
Um, it's will, you know, there's a, there's an esoteric thing.
Um, you know, seven planes of energies or five stages of consciousness.
I don't know if you ever came across these type of terms, but probably have,
but, but sometimes
we, we get stuck on a, on just the three dimensions, you know what I mean?
Just three planes, you know, and, and you don't get to the emotional, you don't
get to the
will part of it.
You don't get to the realization, the control, right?
If you could get to realization, then you can control what's going on because
you realize
what it is.
It's almost like you can now have the foresight of what it is.
Um, and then, then if you could get to that type of, uh, plane of energy, then
the possibilities
become infinite because you realize that, that you, I guess, you know, as they
say, we all
have a free will, right?
But then you realize that the will can be controlled, right?
You also realize that with a strong will, you can control others as well.
Yeah.
Because some people are walking around with weak wills.
Um, that's how you start a cult.
Oh, by, by having the strongest will.
And then you, come here.
Yeah, hold on, you made me, uh, I have a, uh, I have a, I do have a film and
shit, right?
Um, um, called One Spoon of Chocolate.
And I watched half of it.
I had a problem.
There was a problem with the, the early screener.
I was mirroring it on my television and it kept breaking up.
It kept fucking up where like the sound would cut in and cut out.
Okay.
And I did it a couple of times and then the screener ran out.
Cause I guess you can only watch it a few times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then I had to contact your people and then they gave me another one, but
then they gave
me one on Vimeo and I watched that in the gym today.
So I watched the first half of the movie and I'm gonna watch the second half.
Oh, good.
Take, take your time.
Take your time.
It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a crazy one.
It's a fun watch.
It's a lot of ways, but.
And you did it with Tarantino.
Yes.
Which is amazing.
And it seems like, yeah, it's got a Tarantino flavor to it.
But I was, I was, I brought it up just to say that there's a, there's a
character who actually
takes ice plunges, right?
Yes.
Um, and.
The bad guy.
Yeah.
The villain.
Yeah.
So you're talking about coats and things in a way there's a scene where, uh,
when we introduce
him, you could tell that everybody else there are bending to his will, right?
He, he shows them how to do this and you know, you do this and you do that.
And the, then the, there's the fucking, I guess the weak will guy.
And he's like, and that's why Jimmy's the fucking king, man.
I laughed at that.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It was, so that's the point I'm making is that, so will can control, you know
what I mean?
Yeah.
But if you realize yourself and have that self-realization, self-actualization,
you gain control over
yourself, you know what I mean?
And control your planes of energy.
So we were talking about martial arts and martial arts help you achieve that
goal.
Yeah.
My, uh, instructor used to say that martial arts are a vehicle for developing
your human potential.
That if it's so difficult that in learning how to get, I don't like the term
mastery because
I don't think you ever really master martial arts, but in learning martial arts,
the difficulty
that's involved in that, it expands your potential in everything that you do.
I agree.
And for me, I, I actually, you know, I always tell people on a physical level,
I don't know
if I'm good or not, to be honest, you know what I mean?
I took up some hunger and shallon, of course, uh, um, a little bit of wing chung
here and
there, but, but I don't claim to be like a martial art fighter, but I will
claim to be
a martial artist because of the mind, because the way I think, because the way
it allowed me
to think, you know, it's like, it's like, I have a probably 20 books on Tai Chi
and I
read them.
And so I understand it, the application of it.
Like there's a meditation called the eight pieces of brocade.
You ever come across that one?
No.
So, uh, it's, what's the word brocade?
Yeah.
Brocade meaning blockage.
Oh, okay.
So it's eight ways to unblock yourself, like to unblock your Chi.
Uh, one of the first ones, of course you sit in Lotus and you just take your
thumbs and
you bang on the back of your, basically your medulla obglanta.
I'll give you, touch this real quick, if you don't mind.
Back of your head?
Yeah, right here.
Okay.
You see how loud that, you see how loud that is?
Yeah.
Right.
So you cover, so you cover your ears and you bang on those drums first thing in
the morning.
Oh.
And it, exactly.
And it opens up some of your chakras.
Oh.
So.
That feels weird.
Because it's, it's loud.
It's as loud as it could be, right?
Yeah.
But point being made, by studying all these different, uh, books, it's like the
physical
part, of course, is exciting.
But to me, the mental part is even, became more exciting.
The more that I can apply.
Therefore, I can apply it to my music.
I can apply it to business.
I can apply it to how to be a, a, a better father and all those things versus,
uh, me
just punching and trying to break a brick.
You know what I mean?
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
There's, I mean, that's Tai Chi, right?
It's all mental.
The Tai Chi is a martial arts, sort of.
I mean, I guess like you would learn how to move your body better.
That could kind of help you applied in a self-defense situation.
But it's much more of a mental martial art.
And I used to, when I lived in San Francisco, I used to watch people in the
park.
These, uh, old Chinese people would go out there and practice, practice Tai Chi.
I was like, what are they doing?
I was a kid.
I was, you know, I was eight.
I was dumb.
But I was like, what is the purpose of doing this all day?
Right.
Like, and then once you do it a few times, you're like, oh, this is not easy to
do.
Right.
And then in doing that, it cleans your mind of everything else that's going on.
Cause all you're concentrating on is these movements.
These very difficult movements.
They're not stupid.
Like they've been doing this for thousands of years for a reason.
Cause it, it helps them.
Well, the crazy thing about Tai Chi, um, um, give you a little, uh, information
about it
that you may or may not know.
But the idea with Tai Chi is that if you master it or if you have that control
over it, you
should be able to move a thousand pounds with just four ounces of energy.
So the idea of them pushing constantly means that something that ever came to
them, that's,
they pushed that aside without even thinking about it.
Right.
Because just four ounces of energy can divert.
It's almost like tripping a giant.
I think it's great on paper.
An actual giant.
I don't care how much Tai Chi, you know, a dude who's like a 300 pound all
American wrestler.
He comes charging out.
You ain't going to use four ounces of energy and divert him.
Well, I'm going to argue that.
Right.
The four ounces you use is just step to the side.
Yeah.
Everybody says that step to the side.
It ain't easy.
It doesn't work.
Right.
It doesn't work.
They grab you.
Right.
You're not getting up.
But then another, well, I mean, a fight is a fight.
Yeah.
That's a, that's a difference between a martial art and a fight.
Right.
Well, it's also just the reality of physics.
Right.
You know, I mean, it's, it's one thing if you're doing that to an unskilled
person, but
to a skilled person, really, you need to know the skill that they're applying.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, that's the difference between like someone who's practicing something
that is great in
theory.
But I mean, it's not, it's not just in theory, like physically and mentally, it's
great for
you, but it's just, it's not the right application in terms of actual hand to
hand combat.
Yeah.
I mean, a fight is a fight.
I don't care.
I mean, in my opinion, a fight is a fight.
I don't care which, I don't care, you know, if you're the best boxer in the
world that
knocked motherfuckers out.
Like, like, like one of our greatest fighters, Mike Tyson, who wasn't just that
he was a fighter.
He was a fighter.
Right.
Of course he had a skill set and he was a well trained, but, but in the peak of
his
fights, I don't care how much somebody else trained, when he got in the ring to
fight,
they weren't better fighters.
They could have been better boxers, better athletes, better whatever.
So I think a fight, and this is my opinion, it's an instinct.
It's a, you know, like would you, like when Mike bit his ear, right?
Right.
That's a fight.
That's, that's, that's, that has nothing to do with, with boxing.
I think that was frustration, you know, unfortunately, you know, that was a, Evander
was beating
him up.
Yeah.
And I don't think he liked it.
Evander was beating him up.
Yeah.
Uh, professionally, skillfully in boxing.
But then Mike went to fighting.
Yeah.
And fighting, like in, like an MMA, you can't bite in MMA.
You can't bite in no sport.
Right.
Yeah.
Uh, you ain't supposed to hit the nuts.
Right.
You ain't supposed to.
I know, which is crazy.
Cause.
In a fight.
The nuts are one of the best spots to hit.
Exactly.
In the eyes.
You ain't supposed to poke the eyes.
My friend Eddie had an idea for a comedy sketch called ultimate sack fighting.
Where it's just dudes are just, just the nuts are the only target.
It's amazing how vulnerable we really are.
Our balls just sitting on the outside like that.
Yeah.
Fights, you poke in the eye.
I mean, you poke in the eye in an MMA fight, the referee stops the time and you
get a point
deducted.
Right.
But it's a very good technique in an actual fight.
Yeah.
Well, that's what I meant by saying like, so you could train and train and
train, but
when you, uh, when it's life against life or life or death, it's a whole nother
chamber
of, uh, of fighting for survival.
You know what I mean?
There's some horrible videos of no rules fights where they have these no rules
fights in Russia
and a bunch of other places, but they do them outside in a field and these guys
fight and
this wrestler gets this guy down and he just shoves his thumbs in his eyeballs
and he gets
on top of them and he just grabs his face and shoves and the guy's just
screaming.
He's trying to move his head away and he taps his blood all over his eyeballs.
Party over.
Party's over.
Yeah.
You realize like how devastating that is, like the pain and the, the, just the.
And you know what's so crazy?
The person who did it, like the, maybe the guy who got the chance to do it, it's
not easy.
I mean, and tell me if you agree with this, you could disagree, but it's not
easy to do
that either.
No.
I don't mean not easy that you can't do it.
It's not easy for your spirit to do it.
Right.
You see what I mean?
It's evil.
Yeah.
And so, so that's, so that's a whole nother chamber.
It's like, yo, will you do it?
Will you blind a man?
Yeah.
Will you do it?
Right.
And it's like, maybe you won't.
And, but if he will and you won't.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's, that's the, that's what I, that's when my seafood says that about, he,
cause he
doesn't train nobody how to fight.
He said, I can't teach nobody how to fight.
You know what I mean?
I could teach you how to build your body, how to build your chi, how to build
some strength,
but a fight, bro, it's, it's, it's, it's different.
There's no rules.
It's, it's life and death.
It's like, and, and, and your will, going back to the will, what we talked
about, your
willpower, uh, has better be strong to survive.
I love what Bruce Lee said.
Uh, he practiced the art of not fighting.
You know what I mean?
So, and I told that to my son.
I was like, yo, bro, listen, if you can run, bro, run.
Yeah.
I mean, be up out of there and motherfuckers chase you, you know, you gotta,
you gotta go
to, you gotta think on something.
But if you could just, yo, that's right now, yo, yo, you want to fight?
Oh, yo, you know what, Joe?
I'll see you later, bro.
You know what I mean?
I know there's too many people that get into fights for no reason and then you
wind up
changing the rest of your life.
You got a scar that's going to be with you forever or you accidentally kill
somebody.
It's stupid.
It's a stupid thing to do.
And there's so many men that feel like they just have to prove themselves,
which is what a gym is for.
Go to the gym, go to the gym, work out with other fighters, train, get beat up,
realize
where you're at, get a realistic sense of your actual ability and then improve
upon them.
But don't go getting in street fights, please, God.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
And for me, I put all my aggression and all my energy into my art.
You know, you think about some of my early songs, you know, when the motherfucking
rockers,
bro, that was, that was like, I used to have, I had a, I had like a problem of,
I don't know
if it was anger management maybe, uh, but I, but I would just like, like, I don't
know,
like I needed to hear the sound of breaking glass.
I used to scream like jizzle was like, yo, this dude, like, cause I, cause I
was, and I realized
that I had so much, uh, anger in me that, you know, I couldn't really get it
out.
I was kind of hulkish in a way, like, like Bruce Banner or some shit, right?
Uh, but then through music, it started to come out and it started to come out.
And by the time I got to, um, um, Wu-Tang Forever, a lot of my anger was in the
song.
If you want beef, then bring the rockers.
And like all that stage and all that energy.
So it really helped me.
And then I realized going to bring it up today to my, to my new film, I'm
watching it and
I'm just like, okay, once again, I took all the anger and I put it into the art.
You know what I mean?
There's actually, uh, a character in the, in the film, uh, name, his name is Unique.
Did you, uh, did you catch that when you saw the piece?
Unique is the, is the name of Oh Dirty Bastard.
His original name was A-son Unique.
And so that was my way of, uh, of giving homage to him by naming the, the lead
character of my new film, Unique.
And, and, and, and he, and it says in the film, he says, uh, you got a problem
with anger, anger management.
Right.
Right.
He says, he says, yeah, I'm working on that.
And, um, and what I, what I love about, uh, the art of it is that the problem
that he had with anger management was his reaction.
Like a lot of us, we just react too much.
We react before we think.
Right.
Um, cause they say a man could think seven times before he reacts.
That's how fast your mind can move.
But we go on that first impulse.
But this, this character, he keeps, uh, he holds the anger until one morning he's,
uh, he's at a veteran home.
Right.
And he's sitting there and he's having breakfast and he has this can, right?
You see, you see this thing, right?
And he's like, he digs the spoon in there and it's like fucking, there's
nothing in it.
Like it's, it's not even, it's like one spoon of chocolate in it.
And he gets what?
Angry.
And he bangs it.
Boom.
Who the fuck left one spoon of chocolate in the can?
But then it took an old man that was settled to tell him one spoon of chocolate.
Change a whole glass of milk.
Change the whole glass of milk.
And then you notice that character from that.
Then he calmed down.
He started reading to the kids.
Yeah.
So, and that was kind of me taking some of my personality, some of you, some of
old dirty's
personality, some of the personalities that I see in my community and putting
it into this
character, this, this say like, yo, sometime, yo, calm down, listen to the
wisdom of your
elders, right?
Have you ever, have you ever, um, in your life, I'm going to ask you, have you
ever like come
across some old person, whether it's a homeless guy, a devastated guy, your
uncle, somebody,
that you kind of didn't look up to in no way, just kind of, they was, but then
they say
something to you that's profound and changed your life?
Oh man, I'm trying to find an example.
I mean, I've, I've definitely getting, gotten a lot of advice from old timers,
but definitely
people, especially people that have done a lot of things, you know, people that
have accomplished
things and made mistakes and recovered from their mistakes.
I mean, I asked because I was maybe 11 and there was a, uh, like a dope fiend
that was dating
my aunt and he was at the table and shit and he was like nodding, but he was
just, he was
kind of in his, in the chamber, bro.
You know, you know, kids and be looking at, looking at this guy and shit.
And he said, said something about like, you know, I don't care, man.
You got to get knowledge, man.
You got to get knowledge, man.
The gods is right, man.
You got to get knowledge.
I started reading it since that day bro. Really? Seriously. The dope fiend
inspired you to read? Yeah, he said because he said you got to get what
happened was he had knowledge of self I guess back before the drugs hit him and
now he's like dead and he was like he was like you said you got to get
knowledge the gods are right the gods are right and and so what was he on? What
was the drug of choice? He was on fucking he shot that shit up. Heroin? Yeah.
He was on heroin. That's the old days back when he was on heroin.
And they shoot it. Now everybody's on pills. Right. Yeah. I know I know I don't
know about that. I don't know about it either. But I mean, I don't know about
it personally. But that's it's essentially what oxycodone is. All those pain
pills that you see all these people dying. Right. Opioids. Yeah. Opioids. Yeah.
The number one problem. I mean, I think the deaths in America. It's upwards of
70,000 a year. I know it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. Just from just from overdosing
on pills. Yeah. And
most of it happened because of the Sackler family. The what? The Sackler family.
This one family that convinced people that taking these incredibly potent
opioids. Did you ever see that Netflix docuseries, Painkiller? I didn't see
that one. It's really good. It's all about the Sackler family. It's Peter Berg
made it. Same guy. You know Peter? I know Peter. He's great. He's great. He's
great. Yeah. Lone survivor. He made a bunch of excellent movies. He's great. He
made this documentary.
on documenting how, well, it's not a documentary, a docudrama series or
recreation, showing how
this one family, they wanted to figure out a way where they could sell opioids
to everyone.
And the way they did it was like giving people pain management tools, giving
people medication
that you could be on forever. And they made it and they pushed it through these
different doctors.
And they had all these hot ladies who were representatives of the
pharmaceutical drug
companies that come to the doctor and they were the reps that would come and
sell the things.
Yeah. I mean, really. And they were all financially incentivized to sell it.
And they tried to
pretend that it wasn't addictive and they lied about that. And they got, who
knows how many
thousands and thousands and thousands of people ruined their lives because of
it. And like I said,
70,000 die every year, just in America, just from opioids.
That's crazy, bro.
From overdoses. I mean, and how many more would there be of that if it wasn't
for Narcan?
That's the counter, right?
Yeah. That's the stuff that the EMTs give you. If they find you overdosing,
they give you Narcan and
it kills it and brings you back to life. And that one family, you know, no one's
gone to jail.
No one's gone to jail. They, I mean, I don't even know how much they've been
fined.
But if it wasn't for what they did, and again, well documented in that Netflix
series, it's horrific, man.
It's really terrifying. Because it's not just the people that died, the people
that are addicted.
It's all the family members that were affected by them. All the children of
those people and what happened with their lives.
All the spouses and the brothers and sisters of those people and what happened
with their lives.
That's crazy. When you were saying that, my, my, my, the imagery in my head was
that scene in American Gangsta when, uh, it was like Thanksgiving and, and they
showed, uh, Frank Lucas at the table with his whole family.
They had a nice spread of food. And then they, the camera went and showed all
the families that was hooked on the blue magic drug.
They had like the lady dying over here, the kid, the kid looking at her mother
dead or so the, with the difference, I guess, um, that's the image that came to
my head when you said that.
But I guess the difference is in that particular case, uh, somebody goes to
jail and pays the price for the crime.
But in this particular case, you're saying that nobody, nobody went to jail.
They did it legally somehow or another.
They pimped it out and then sold it to everybody legally. I mean, it's, it's,
it's sick. They're the biggest drug dealers that have ever existed.
Fuck all these street drug dealers. I mean, these guys killed 70,000 people a
year for who knows how many years.
And it was probably more than that before they figured out Narcan. And, and
part of it is also because people get addicted to it and then they get stuff
from the cartel that has fentanyl in it.
And that's why they're dying. But there's a bunch of people that just died from
straight up overdose of opioids too. It's terrifying.
And it's over the counter.
Yeah. And yeah, no, it's not over the counter. You have to get prescribed, but
doctors are happy to prescribe it for you.
I got my nose fixed. I had a deviated septum and they cleaned it out.
And I was leaving the doctor's office and he gave me two prescriptions for
opioids. And I said, uh, but I don't, I'm not in pain.
He goes, but you, you probably will be. And I go, but is it going to be worse
than this right now? Like we're just out of the operation.
My nose was, I have like this, these things stuffed up your nose to keep your
nostrils open. And, and I was like, are you sure it's going to be worse than
this?
And he gave me two prescriptions and I went home and I was like, I don't need
these. Like I didn't fill them, but I'm like, this is not, but this guy was
giving me two different opioids to take.
You would have been, he would have had, you would have went back.
I probably would have been hooked.
Yeah.
I mean, I know a lot of people that got hooked, man. I'm not, I'm, I'm under no
illusion that I'm stronger than those people that I would have figured out a
way to not get hooked.
Right.
So many people that I know got hooked.
So you're saying like, let me just go back on this. Cause I actually don't take
nothing, bro. Like I drink tea or, you know, I'm very, um, I mean, I do pump an
asthma inhaler when I get it.
Cause I had asthma since my whole life. Other than that, I don't really take no
Tylenol or nothing, bro.
Yeah. Fuck all that stuff.
Right. But you're saying though, at the end of the day, let's take him doing
this back at you. The doctor basically sling gave you some free shit.
Yeah.
To kind of have you as a customer. Cause when crack came out, I think he's
financially incentivized.
That's what I mean.
I think they're financially incentivized to prescribe you this medic. Cause he
didn't say if you're in pain, contact me and I'll fill you a prescription.
Cause it's just my nose.
Right. It's just the nose. It's not that big a deal. Like I slept fine. It was
nothing.
That's crazy.
And I tried to tell him, I'm like, I don't understand why you're giving me that.
We had a conversation. I go, is it going to be worse than it is right now?
Like right now, I'm not in any pain. He goes, it could probably get worse. I'm
like, how much worse? Cause right now I don't feel anything. It's like nothing.
It's like mildly uncomfortable because I have these tubes stuffed up my nose.
Right.
But this is not, this doesn't require heroin. This is crazy.
I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing. I'm just.
But it is kind of nuts.
It's kind of.
Financially incentivized.
Let me go back to the film.
No, because in the film, there's a, uh, there's a, um, article that, uh, our
hero opens up in a, in a paper.
And it's not the same subject, but it's a medical thing. And then it's just
like this, this particular county is leading, is leading in this particular
process, uh, because there's money in it.
If it's money, sadly, you know, I mean, and that's, it's a movie, but sadly, if
there's money involved, uh, people can become insidious.
Right. Yeah. People can become like, uh, yeah, you, you, you could get strung
out. You could get strung out. I done sold. You know, I got, I wrote 20 prescriptions
this week and they're not cheap.
Right. How much is the prescription when they, when you fill it? Is that like
40 bucks, a hundred bucks?
I don't know. It's not cheap, but more importantly, the doctor gets incentivized.
When I hear some dark shit, I was reading about this doctor that was a, an oncologist.
So he's dealing with cancer patients and he was giving chemotherapy to people
that didn't have cancer because it would get him more money.
No, you kind of fucked me up with that. Yeah. Then you kind of hit my emotion.
Cause I just lost my brother to cancer, my brother power.
Yeah. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah. It's one of the
most profitable, um, medications, unfortunately for physicians.
Well, not unfortunate. Look, if it saves your life, that's wonderful. But the
reality is this one doctor that I'm discussing, this one doctor decided that he
was going to get paid more by just giving chemotherapy to people that didn't
have cancer.
So he diagnosed a bunch of people with cancer. They didn't have it. He said, Oh,
unfortunately you have cancer. The good news is we get you on chemotherapy
right away.
We think we can kick it. And they were regular people with nothing wrong with
them. And these, this fucking guy gave them poison.
You know how much the chemo costs? It's very expensive. Yeah. It's about 30 to
60 grand a hit.
Yeah. I'm not, I'm not surprised. And the doctors, uh, profit off of that. It's
one of the most profitable medications that doctors prescribe, unfortunately.
That's kind of fucked. And look, most doctors would never fucking imagine doing
that in a million years. But this one doctor, like his, his thought process was,
Hey, this is how I get paid.
You know, I'm dealing with all this overhead. I'm dealing with all this
liability insurance. I'm dealing with medical school bills. I'm dealing with
all this. Fuck this.
I'm just going to start prescribing a little bit of chemotherapy here and there
to people that don't actually have cancer. And I don't know how he got caught.
I don't know what happened. But I think it was just, there was some
red flat. Yeah. They got him. He's in jail. There was some red flag where they
noticed like, why are so many people getting cancer with this one doctor? Like,
why is his number so high? It doesn't, it's not representative of the
percentage that. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's crazy, bro. But that's what, that's,
what's hard to imagine is that money would incentivize someone to tell a person,
like how many people just commit suicide?
Cause they think they're dying of cancer and they go, fuck, I'm known on, I don't
want to do this. I don't want to suffer. I'm just going to fucking go out on my
own terms.
You know? Yeah. Well, how many people, how many people's lives did that ruin?
Well, I don't, well, that's, first of all, that was trouble. I had, I had to
kind of emotionally rebound from that because it's just, you kind of made me
think like,
yeah, I don't know, like, like, you know, we don't have the answer to shit, you
know what I mean? And things happen in life. And sometimes you just like,
you know, but I, I do have instinct and I always, I, you know, I just felt that
something wasn't, uh, I don't know. I won't even go there, but
you said that money, why would, that, why would he do it for the money? It's
like, yo, everything is for the money, bro.
Motherfuckers is doing, you know, cash rules. Everything around me. Well, you
know what I mean?
Get the money. Yeah. And people were stuck on that. You know what I mean? The,
the goal, hopefully,
because we live in a capitalist society, but the goal should be that cash doesn't
rule you. Money
shouldn't rule you. Right. We need it. You know what I mean? You know, food,
clothing, and shelter.
You're going to need that. There ain't nothing given here, but, but it doesn't
surprise me,
you know, that that's the motivation for insidious behavior. You know, I was,
um, I'm gonna go back a little history here.
Um, it's, um, we're working on another project where we tap into, uh, it's kind
of fantasy. I, I, I just write off my imagination, but,
but I, I had the, the, this family, uh, they are, they are, they, their
ancestors are from Congo.
And in the Congo, they trace their ancestors to be back to the Leopold days.
And you think about the
Leopold days, millions of Africans were mined, chopped off their arms and shit,
all because the gag was
they wanted them to work and to get the rubber from the rubber tree. So the
rubber at one point
became the main gold of the world, right? And, and King Leopold went over to
Congo and you get Tarzan
out of this shit. All right. That's the, that's the, the fictional story, but
he goes over and I think
they said at minimum two million people, but I think it's five million that
were just mined or killed just for the
economic profit of what those rubber trees was offering to, uh, Western
civilization.
Right now with cobalt. I had this guy said, Darth Cara on the podcast. Uh, he
wrote a book, Jimmy,
do you remember what the name of that book was? His book on cobalt mining in
the Congo. So cobalt is a
critical mineral that's used in cell phone batteries and many electronics. And,
uh, that is cobalt red,
the blood of the Congo powers in our lives. It's very disturbing conversation.
And he had,
he snuck in, uh, cameras and got some footage of these people doing what, you
know, you think
that this stuff is mined in some sort of industrial process. Look at this. This
is how these people are
mining and you've got women who are, uh, have babies on their backs and all
this cobalt that they're
knocking out of the ground is completely toxic. Some of them just have like a
bandana over their mouth
that they're using to protect themselves from. But look how deep that is with
human beings that are
just pulling cobalt. They live on dirt floors. They, they live at the lowest
level poverty imaginable.
They don't have clean water. They don't have good food and they are pulling out
a mineral that's
essential to the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society,
which is our connectivity
through the internet, through cell phones. And this is at the, which is kind of
crazy. If you think of
like the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, if you
follow it all the way down to
the very bottom of the food chain, you've got slave labor and that's a giant
percentage of the cobalt
that's in our cell phones and our electronics is coming out of this place.
You know, so I never seen that before, bro. A lot of them are run by China.
Yeah. And it's, it's very scary, man. I never seen it, but, but I wrote a lyric
that touches upon it. I didn't, I never seen those images before.
He's got video. See if you can find the video. The video's dark. I think my
lyrics said, uh,
let's see if I can remember my lyric. It was a song I wrote called the fate of
the world
is in your hand was me and DJ scratch. And, uh, what I, I knew that I knew that
cobalt or I knew that they was getting the mineral from Congo. Um, but I didn't
know it like that.
It was something like, you know, as an artist, you know, fucking antenna, right?
You get shit.
But I said something, uh, I said, I'm trying to remember the lyric I said. It
was like, uh, um,
Hey, could you pull up the lyrics to, to read the song the fate of the world as
well after you do this?
Yeah. Play that video real quick, but please look at this. How crazy is this?
By the way, all this
scene, almost biblical toil, the prize is cobalt. And here's the thing. All
this is super toxic.
So all these people are breathing in this insanely toxic dust and they're
knocking it out of the
ground with hammers and carrying it off in bags. Yeah. This is, this is, this
looks biblical, bro.
Right. And imagine how fucking heavy these bags are. And there's doing this all
day long. Look at
these guys struggling to pick those bags up and they're carrying this all day
long and they're
just knocking into the ground, trying to pull out this cobalt. And the thing is
like, this is what we
need to power our phones, which is so crazy. If you think about all these
people that are virtue
signaling about how wonderful and ethical and moral they are, they're doing it
on a phone that is
literally powered by slave labor. That's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. And it's
crazy that this is going on
in 2026 and most people aren't even aware of it. Well, this is, well, you're
back. Like I just said,
I'm the, my, the, the project I'm working on now, we just talk about it. We, we
take, we're tracing it back to
the rubber tree, but it's still going on. Still going on. Still going on. And
that's just cobalt.
There's other stuff that they're mining there too. That's, it's very similar.
There's other,
other what they call conflict minerals. Pull up, pull up my lyric for, uh, the
fate of the world.
Just want to just point out what I, what I said, if you, if you, if you got
that on genius or something.
Yeah. It says, uh, a thousand years of darkness, the world got struck with
sorrow.
Hallowed be the name. We need a better tomorrow. Go to the second, uh, the
second verse. Let me see.
Uh, uh, let me see. Wait, oh no, wrong song. That's what it, rhythm. I got too
many songs.
What's the other one on that one? Uh, um, go open that. No, not that one. Go to
the other,
uh, the other, uh, what do you call it? The other, uh, go to the album title.
Yeah. Hit the,
the album Saturday afternoon. You're going to edit some of this, right?
No, you don't edit. Okay. Well, we're going, y'all going, y'all going to bear
with us.
Saturday afternoon. No, no, no. Go to the, uh, oh, it's called the, uh, wait,
the great fishermen, right? Let me see the titles of the songs.
Uh, Fisherman. Fisherman. Yeah. Pull that one up.
So what is genius? Genius is it shows all the lyrics. Yeah, that's what it is.
And then it actually
has a song underneath it. Oh, that's cool. I didn't even know that existed.
People can annotate
and tell you what people were meant by what they said. Oh, really? Yeah. On
genius. Yeah. Oh,
cool. Okay. Right there. There you go. Look, the great fishermen,
the fisher of men are trying to make a remedy for the elixir of sin, a premonition.
We need divine
intervention. This whole world is the whole world is a stage. So it's time for
intermission
in the middle of the Congo jungle. There's a combo of concentrated elements
that make the world's
phones glow, but they got a small zone for their phones though, because they
don't even got
reception out there. But we used to communicate just banging on the bongo. That's
when the village
was more motherly and more brotherly. But then the Dutch came through and
killed them off for the
rubber tree. King Leopold city was built from a sea of gold and the Resurrectors
still trading on
a silky road. Yeah. Those are some bars. Respect. But point, but I'm not doing
that to show off or
nothing. But it's real. Yeah. Yeah. But you just gave me, but you gave me like
the full, you gave me the
connotation and the annotation of the lyric because I didn't even see, I never
seen that before.
Oh, that's crazy. I just, I just heard that they got to get it from there. And
I knew the history of
King Leopold, but I did not know that this is still, still, this is crazy. Yeah.
It's still going on and
it'll continue going on as long as no light is shown on it. And this is what Siddharth
Carr was trying to
do with his book and you know, the, the tour that he was doing and doing
podcasts and trying to let,
and he mean, he risked his life, man. I mean, they questioned him and he got
very lucky that he got
out of there with that footage because they want to make sure that nobody knows
about this shit.
They don't want any outrage. They want the mining to keep going as planned. I
mean, it's, it's dark. It's dark, yeah.
Because it's a multi multi-billion dollar industry that's powered by abject
poverty.
It might be trillion. Probably trillion. Yeah, because like, yeah, it's less
like you're just saying like,
if it's in all our phones, that means... Not just our phones, but I think it's
in a lot of electronics. I think it's, it might be,
is cobalt in electric cars? I think they're, they're trying to make new formulations
of batteries without cobalt.
So there's a, Jamie, what is that? I know a lot of the Chinese cell phones are
using a different
battery technology instead of lithium ion. They have something else that's more
dense. Well, that's what,
yeah, cobalt's a critical component in lithium batteries. Right. That's crazy.
Yeah.
Lithium ion batteries. What are the, what is, uh, like OPPO, there's a bunch of
these new Chinese
companies that have cell phones that have much more battery, like instead of
like, like a Samsung Galaxy
S26 Ultra has a 5,000 milliamp battery in it. I think these OPPO phones have 7,000
plus, but it's,
I think it's carbon silicon based batteries. I wonder if they have cobalt in
them. They've,
you know, as technology for batteries changes and advances, they need different
kinds of components
in them. Right. But I mean, then you got to find out where, where are they
getting that shit from?
Is that another like conflict mineral that they have people digging out of the
ground with sticks?
But the other thing to think about, you know, just the, okay, let's say it is
worth trillions of dollars.
Like when do, um, the people who, you know, like if that's on my property, bro,
you know what I'm saying? It's my, you come to my crib for it. I should get, be
getting paid off of that.
Right. I should be, I mean, well, you know how it works. China comes in. It's,
a lot of these are
Chinese run. China comes in, they pay off the people that are in power in these
areas and those
people will get wealthy. And then all the people that are with the workers,
they all get like pennies.
As small a wage as you could possibly pay them to keep them alive. These people
live on dirt floors.
It's crazy. No food. It's horrible. It's, it's really dark, man, because it's
what powers electronics,
which is nuts. Cause that's the most sophisticated aspect of our society in
terms of technology.
Well, the government of those places, they're not to get here. Like, I'm like,
you know,
I'm a artist and I'm a spiritual man, but they should be like, yo, hold on, bro.
Yeah. Like, like in Alaska, right? There's a pipeline that goes through Alaska.
You know about
this pipeline, right? Sure. But the citizens of Alaska get so, they get a
royalty for that. Yes.
Okay. Like the, the, like if I'm in Congo and I got this cobalt that's worth trillions
and I got all,
all these people, give them, give them more royalty. A hundred percent. If that
was America,
that would probably the only way to do it. But obviously you couldn't pay
people the way you pay people
in the Congo, in America. Anyway, we have laws, but this is also why they want
illegal immigration.
That's part of the reason why they like illegal immigration is because you don't
have paperwork.
You don't have to pay people what they're supposed to get paid. Do you pull
that back up again,
Jamie, please about the silicon carbide batteries. So it seems like one of the
reasons, uh, for utilizing
this new technology is because it's not using as much cobalt. So, uh, advanced
lithium ion technology
using silicon to replace traditional graphite a nodes, offering roughly 20 to
40% higher energy density
and faster charging, especially in smartphones. Does it say anything? I thought
that a lot.
Yeah, it did because I had cobalt added onto it. Yeah.
So it has cobalt in that as well, but less maybe?
Enables more sustainable cobalt reduced designs. So you have less cobalt and it's
more energy density.
So these Chinese phones are, yeah, here it is. Honor, Magic 5 Pro, a lot of
these, uh, one plus 13,
a lot of these, um, Chinese made Android phones are using, um, much more
advanced battery technology.
So they're trying to ease up on it a little bit, basically?
I mean, I don't know. The hard to, the question is like, well, where are you
getting everything else?
Where's all that other shit that's in your phone? And how are you mining that?
If you're hiding how
you mine cobalt, how are you mining all the other stuff? Because they're all
conflict minerals.
And a lot of these minerals, unfortunately, are mined out of the third world.
They find them in these
places where people are really poor and the people that live there, they don't
benefit from it.
Their lives don't get any better. In fact, they get worse because they get
poisoned.
Well, the thing, the thing that, but, but, let me add some wisdom to that. The
people got to realize
that they are not poor, right? Because if that is valuable and you're standing
on it, then you're
standing on value, you know. And that's why they keep them poor, because they
can't organize them.
But think about the Holy Quran for a moment, right? Let me go here for a little
spiritual here, right?
So, in the Holy Quran, it mentions that, you know, if the Muslims were to do
what they was going to do,
that they would have many wells, right? Because, you know, they're living in
the desert, basically,
right? And it says they're going to have abundant of wells. It's not an
abundant of water wells in the
Middle East, right? And these are people that are living nomadic, economically,
not really
at the level of the rest of the world. But it's a prophecy telling them that
they're going to have
wells. But what kind of wells they end up having? Oil. Oil wells, right? And so
now, all of a sudden,
they become the most richest small region in the world. Right. So the promise
is fulfilled,
right? But the gag is that the people got to realize sometimes where you stand,
where you stand
on your land. You know what I mean? The value of it, as the Bible would say, yo,
work to the sweat of your brow to dig and plow and make your land valuable. But
now, if you,
so if, I'm just saying that the people where they're going to get, whatever
they're going to get, bro,
okay? I don't care if you're going to get some berries in the Amazon. If the
berries is worth money,
then the dude who got all the berries got to realize that, yo, bro, let's make
a deal. But it
seemed like that ain't happening. No. No, it's not happening. And the reason
why it's not happening is
because you have enormous corporations to come in from other countries. They
get contracts and they
pay off the people that are the leaders of these countries or the people that
are the leaders of the
military. And then those people keep these people oppressed. Right. And that's
what, I mean, it's,
it's the people that are running these countries that are making sure that
these people don't get
paid what they deserve so that they can keep them working there for slave wages.
So they keep their
profits as high as possible. They also keep the options as low as possible.
These people don't have
any options. Right. If you're living in the Congo and you're, you're near where
these cobalt mines are,
what are your other options? Right. You know? I remember, um, I'm going to
shout out Burning Boy.
Uh, Burning Boy is a good dude. He, um, he had told me some, gave me some
insight about, uh,
Nigeria. And, and, and, and like, he was saying to me, like how Wu-Tang, when
we was young,
you know, we had to sling street pharmaceuticals, right? But out there, oil is
like a street
pharmaceutical, like dudes was, was slinging, uh, petrol and slinging oil and
shit. I was like,
in Nigeria? Yeah. Wow. It's like, that's crazy, right? It's crazy. But the gag
I'm saying is that
still, you know, of course the government controls all that, but, but sometimes
the people who got to
just, uh, snap, you know, just, yo, I don't know, stand on your land, yo, and,
and, and, and realize
the value of where you stand. You know, every man, um,
has a value. Um, right. We, we all walk with a living value. Every life is
precious. Every life
that's born changes the world. Soon as somebody is born today, this ain't the
same world it was
yesterday. Right. Soon as somebody returned to the essence, this ain't the same
world.
But, so we got to kind of, but the people, I'm going back to the people, not to
the military or
to the government. The people got to realize that, yo, hold on, bro. It's you,
you're the value.
Because without them, right, until they do get, uh, 10 million robots to do
that shit,
which I don't, I'm not opposed to that. Right. Send 10 million robots to dig it
up, bro. Right.
And, and, and, and still though, if it's on my land, break me off. Right.
You know what I mean? But people got to snap into that. Well, these are, these
places are all guarded
by the military. So it's all people with guns. Yeah. You can't leave. Yeah. You're
doing their
bidding. You'll get shot. Yeah. They kill people. They bury you. No one notices.
No one cares.
The value of human life is extremely low. Yeah. It's, it's, it's satanic. It's
dark.
Well, let's jump back on my film because in my film, the value of life is once
again, um,
we're talking about the world, but yet I got to relate it back because in our
film, the value of
life seems low as well. Yeah. Right. Low for the person living, uh, more for
the valuable for the
person that kills them. Right. Yeah. Without giving too much of the film away.
Um, what happens in the
film actually happens in real life. I mean, that, that is, it's based, I mean,
you say it's based on
real life, but there's been real life cases where people they've harvested
people's organs for profit.
Yeah. And that's a thing. I mean, that's a big problem with people in China.
You know,
people go to China for, for organs. Like there's a tourism to get organs
replaced. Like say,
if you need a new kidney or you need a new liver or whatever. We got it. Yeah.
They have it. And
what they'll do is they'll take their fucking prisoners and they, oh, look AB
blood type. Perfect.
Whack. And then now you got some dude's heart business. Yeah. There's a crazy.
There's another element
that, um, um, this is right here. I'm live on Joe Rogan podcast. I got a new
film coming out,
May 1st. It's called one spoon of chocolate. Uh, written and directed by the RZA.
Starring
Shamik Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood, Rockman Dunbar, the name of a few.
It's produced by
Quentin Tarantino and my wife, Talani Diggs. Hey baby. I did, I did an, uh, unofficial
radio drop.
Cause that sounded like we're on the radio. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, um,
this is the RZA.
Coming in at five after the hour. And, um, but I love how art can touch upon,
uh, things even if it's,
uh, unintentional. Right. Um, what I mean by unintentional is that, you know,
as an artist,
I just let the shit flow. Like I did, like when you showed all that, uh, Congo
Cobalt,
I never seen it, but yet it's in your lyrics. Yeah. But that's in my lyrics.
Yeah. And even as you're
telling me this chain of stuff here, I don't know about that. I do know some
things that happened,
but some articles, but I wasn't, I'm not, uh, uh, in debt, in depth with all
the N D E P H T H.
I don't have in depth knowledge of it, but I, but I strive as an artist, Joe is
to actually to at least
show the surface so that, you know, I don't know how deep the pool is, but I
will show,
show the surface through my art. Um, and I think in this film, which is a, it's
an action film though,
right? So Joe only seen the first half of it. So he doesn't know about the
revenge-o-matic
ass kicking and I'm not going to spoil it. I believe it. There's already plenty
of ass kicking
already. Right. Right. Exactly. See some. Okay. But it gets fucking, uh, you're
going to have a
good time. I'm sure you're going to have a good time, but still, once again,
the art of it, um,
it has a, I'm realizing as I'm watching with different audiences, like when I
watched it in, uh,
New York, I had motherfuckers yelling at the screen. Fuck that. They was on
some shit.
When I watched it in LA, the audience was like,
it was like a sense of nervousness. It was in the room. When I watched it in
Chicago,
it was standing ovation. You know what I mean? I watched it in San Francisco
and the Q and A was
very intellectual. So I'm realizing that, okay, this is touching. And when I
watched it, this other
place, the girl, uh, with Dave, actually I watched it with Dave Chappelle. He
said that, uh, you got bars
in this motherfucker. I said, what do you mean by bars? He said, well, the guy
says, uh, the girl says,
um, first the girl, this, this comes, you haven't seen the scene yet, but Paris
Jackson is telling him
that everybody in this town goes to church on Sunday, except for Jimmy and his
gang of degenerates.
They party all night Saturday and they sleep all day Sunday. She said, and I
guess they're not afraid
to go to hell. And then the hero says, but where I come from, they say, heaven
is what you make it.
And hell is what you got to go through to get it. And she was like, that sounds
right. And Dave was like,
that's a fucking bar.
And yo, hold on. So last time I was here, it was Donnell Rawlings was here,
right?
So check it out, bro. I was showing the film to Dave, right? And we're going to
do a Q and A. I'm in,
I went to Yellow Spring, Ohio, bro. Was Donnell there? Bro.
He was there, yo. And then he got up and he asked the question and he started,
uh, he, he, he interrupted.
He talked about the day we was here and he, and you inspired him to do a
podcast. I remember you said,
yo, start a podcast, but you might even help them. Right. And then he said, uh,
and I said, yo,
yeah, if you need something, hit me. So he hit me up. So, yo, let me get a, a,
a opening theme track.
And so I got like a, a bunch of beats that's on my little thumb drive. I sent
them like five of them.
Right. And he chose one.
Yeah. He told me about this.
Yeah. So now he choose one and that becomes his theme. And this is, it was a
nice fucking,
but that same five tracks, uh, my manager is sending it to other people too and
shit.
So I did give it to Donnell. I gave it to him gratis, but he comes up in the
middle of my Q and A
with Dave about my film and he starts talking about the beat and he says, Vrza
is an Indian giver.
He said, he said, I was, I said, I was playing. He said, I had it on my podcast
for almost two years.
And then one day it said flag license, uh, whatever they do and shit, uh, when
you can't use it, use a motherfucking shit.
And I was like, um, I said, oh yeah, bro. Yeah. The, the, the people from the
minions,
they had got, um, those five tracks as well. And, and, and they chose it and
they put it and they put it,
and they paid us a lot of money. And not going back to the money of it all, but
so I told him, I said, oh, that was another beat. He said, nah, son, that was
the one.
Oh no. That was the one. I said, bro, they chose it.
My manager made the deal. Oh no. It's all off the table now.
Oh no. So he had to change his opening. Yeah. So, oh no, that gives him more to
complain about.
Yeah. Oh no. It's almost worth giving him the beat just so he doesn't have to
complain.
Yeah. I owe you Darnell and I'm going to hook you up with something.
Actually going to cook you up something nice. All right. I can't wait for this
phone call.
Son, you know what he did to me, son? He took it back. He said that in front of
the audience.
I couldn't deny it and I was like, yeah, they, they, you know, that's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
Um, but anyway, um, but they love the film too. Like, like the audience and,
and, uh, um,
I'm only saying that cause I love, I love when my peers react to something.
Is this your first feature length film? It's my fourth.
Fourth. Yeah. I know you've done other stuff, but this, did you, have you
written
and done other things like this, the way you're doing it this way?
This is my second one writing. So I wrote my first film, man with the iron fist.
Right. Right. Uh, which was a Quentin Tarantino percent as well.
And then it was a, you know, Kung Fu movie. So then I didn't want to get stuck
and like,
oh, that's all he does. So my second film I didn't write, uh, was written by
Nicole and she, um,
she, it was called Love Beats Rhymes. Uh, and, uh, that was like a movie about
poetry
and a female lead. And it was actually, um, John, JD, John David Washington. It
was his
first feature film as well. Um, and then my third film was called Cutthroat
City,
which I didn't write. Um, just once again, a hired gun as a director. And in
that film,
I had Shamik Moore as the lead actor. And I kind of like fell in love with his
talent.
So that's why he was in Cutthroat City. He's in the Wu-Tang series. He plays Raekwon.
And now he's the star of my new film. So he's kind of, we kind of got this, uh,
I hate to say it,
but we kind of got this, uh, this Denzel Spike Lee energy, this Kugler Michael
B energy. I really
like this guy. But on this particular film, yes, I decided to write it and
direct it. Um, and
I'm back to the basic, right? Quinn Tarantino presented my first film. And now
here's my fourth
film and he's back in the building. And one of my favorite songs from that
first soundtrack is
Baddest Man Alive. Oh, that you did with Black Keys. Dude, that song, that song
killed it. Shout out to,
um, shout out to Dan and Patrick, yo. Yeah. I love those two guys. They're cool
as
fuck. And that song kills it. That song kills it. That's such a good song. A
bunch of dudes use that
song. Let's walk out, walk out for the UFC. I, I, I seen it on a fucking car
commercial one day.
Did you guys listen to the lyrics?
Right. I guess all you need is that hook, right? Right. Yeah. On this, on this,
uh, how we doing
on time? We good? Yeah, we're plenty good. On this, on this particular film, uh,
I got a guy
named, you know, Jason Isbell? Yeah, sure. Yes. So Jason Isbell did a song, uh,
in the film, uh, it's called, uh,
comic book life. And, um, it was, you know, it's my first collaboration with
him as well. Um, um,
and that was, it was a pleasure. Uh,
lyrics go, Jesus Christ,
walk, it's Jesus, uh, Jesus Christ may have walked on water
and Superman flies through the sky. The immigrant crossed the border. He's
looking for a better life.
Trying to find it. He's reminded that dreams are born to die. His reality
kills his fantasy. It's not a comic book life. You know what I mean?
And, uh, so it goes on, um, um, and I, and so I try to, when I do films, I try
to make like a unique
musical collaboration. Of course, that was me and the Black Keys back then. And
on this, on this, uh,
on this film, we got like music from Jason Isbell. We got clearances from the
Isley brothers who,
check this out, bro. I'm on a plane three days ago, heading to Atlanta to show
the film. Guess who's
sitting in first class in the seat right there? Ron Isley. Now I never met him
before. I'm like the
big fan. I love his music. I got two of his songs in my movie and I'm like, and
I'm going to show and
I look over, I'm like, my wife's like, yeah, that's fine. And I was like, I got
a chance to get up and
thank him, uh, for, you know, for his work and for even allowing, uh, his music
to be in my film
because, um, that was, that's special. Oh, that's cool. Are you a Ron Isley fan?
Not really. You're not an Isley brothers, bro. Listen, bro, you gotta, let me,
I gotta put you on
some Isley brothers, bro. Please. Because if, you know, I'm quite sure your
love life is good, all right?
I'm quite sure you got a good love life, bro. But if you ever get into any love
life trouble,
okay, put it on the Isley brothers. It will smoothen out. Tell me what to get.
I'm going to say sensual. Sensual? Yeah. Put that one on and, um, and, uh, yeah,
I'm going to just give you that one because when that, the way that comes on,
bro,
your shoulders are going to start moving and shit. Okay. All right. Come in
with two glasses of wine,
I'm telling you, bro, you're going to be good. Yeah. I'll check it out.
Who's your, who's your, uh, um, who's your favorite musician?
Oh, boy. I don't think I have a favorite musician. I don't even have a favorite
genre.
You know, I, I like all kinds. I mean, if you look at my Spotify green room
playlist,
it's all over the place. It goes from Nina Simone to Bill Withers to Wu Tang to
Leonard Skinner to
Led Zeppelin. It's all over the place to Gary Clark Jr. to it's everywhere. I,
I, I move around.
You name it some dope shit. Okay. I like to move around. I like all kinds of
shit. I'll listen to
Dwight Yoakam and I'll, I'll follow it up with, um, you know, cool G rap. I
like, uh, you know,
one of my favorite albums ever is when, um, the brand new heavies. Did you ever
listen to the brand new
heavies when they got heavy rhyme experience? Did you ever listen to that? I
don't know if I know that
particular, uh, Oh, brand new heavies got together with like cool G rap. They
got together with a bunch
of different rappers. Um, who else is in there? God, it's like, there's, there's
a ton of different
people that they did these tracks with. So they have like the brand new heavies
playing the music
and like, like heavy rhyme experience is the name of the track. Gang stars in
it, main source. Yeah.
What year is this bro? 92, I think. Wow. 92. Yeah. Right. Right. Cause I
remember that first album.
Oh my God. You got to listen to some of this shit. Yeah. Because by now 92 was,
you know what happened
to me in 1992. I'm on my own deck now. I don't listen to nobody. I'm just Wu-Tang
out. Oh,
okay. No, I'm trying to make it. So I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I get it. So I
missed it. Oh yeah.
I actually missed a lot of things during my career, bro. I realized like I'm
going backwards.
Like there was a point in my life where I couldn't stand R&B. Really? It made
me nauseous. I'm serious.
Like, like, like, like, like, like if I'm driving and R&B's on, I felt no, I
was so fucking hip hop,
bro. Cause you're so concentrated. Yeah. Yeah. It was weird. Like I said, that
makes sense though.
Yeah. It makes sense. But yeah, because you were on the grind. You were really
trying to make it happen.
Now you give me, now I play R&B, me and my wife, we'd be dancing around the
motherfucking house.
Yeah. It's, I mean,
there was a point in time where I was only into 90s hip hop, like 90s hip hop
was my shit. Right.
Cause like, that was when I was young and I was on the road a lot. And that was
like,
my getting fired up music was like 90s hip hop. But then I started expanding.
And then I got into like,
a lot of like old classic rock and roll. And I just think it's all dependent
upon your mood,
but there's so much different shit that you could listen to. Right. But this,
you got to listen to some
of this heavy rhyme experience. Yeah, I'm gonna put that on my list right there.
Yeah. Play him that,
uh, cool G rap death threat. This is like one of my all, so in the green room,
we'll have to cut this out of the podcast, unfortunately, because we don't want
to get dinged.
But at a, in the green room playlist, this is like one of my first beginning of
the night when the
comedy show starts and we're in the green room, getting fired up, pouring a
couple of drinks,
everybody's getting fired up. Someone's rolling a blunt. This is one of my
favorite songs to start
the green, the green room playlist. Hit me with it.
This is cool G rap and the brand new heavies. Okay. It's great. And, uh, the
gang star hectic.
That's another one of my favorites. You know what's so cool about it for me? So
I never heard it,
but it immediately like put me right back in Stapleton projects, like right
back
in that time of me, like my, cause cool G rappers. Love that dude. So it put me
right there. Thank
you. Cock blocking. One of my all time favorite songs. Right. Right. Talk like
sex. Um, I mean,
so many ill street blues, ill street blues, amazing. And cool G rap. I just
think in mainstream just
doesn't get the respect he deserves from like the influence that he had in the
nineties. Yeah. I think
the, I think the, the artists, we gave it to him, but yeah, you're right. The,
the, the public. Mainstream.
Yeah. People, there's so many people. I bring up cool G rap and they're like,
who? Right. I'm like,
oh, sit down, sit down. Let me play some shit for you. Yeah. And I didn't never,
he told me this
years later that the G stood for genius. And he's a, he's a fucking genius.
Even though we, we got the
jizzler, the genius in our crew, cool G rap is a, is a genius, man. I was
blessed to, um,
I was blessed to do a couple of tracks with him in my, in my catalog. We
actually, we actually, um,
got a couple that we did together and a couple that I just produced with, uh,
like him and Inspector
Deck and, um, and things of that nature. So that's one of the greatest
blessings of, uh, of the art is
that I'm sure you do the same as, you know, whether you're doing comedy,
whether you're doing your
physicality, that you have people that you admired and then all of a sudden you're,
they're your peers.
You're collaborating. Yeah. You're doing shit with them. Yeah, no, it's very
exciting. Just
being able to hang out with them. You know, we did, uh, uh, we went to dinner
with, uh, Quentin Tarantino
and Roger Avery and then they came to the comedy show and then we're all
hanging out in the green room.
Right. And everybody's like, this is the fucking coolest night of all time.
Just chilling and hanging
out with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery at the mothership green room. How
you gonna beat that?
It's hard to beat, man. Everybody the next day were like, didn't last night
really happen? Like,
that was so fun. When, when, um, uh, when I, uh, speaking of Quentin, when I,
um, had a cut
that was, um, you know, worthy to show him, uh, uh, our buddy Javid and my
buddy Abazar,
they, uh, so Javid kind of owns the, the old Desi Arnaz studio. Oh, wow. Um, he's
the guy that
started red cameras. So, and he has this amazing screening room. And so he said,
yo, um, you can
screen it here for Quentin. I said, all right, cool. So we finally got the date
to do it. And I go there
and his plus one is, is Fincher. Oh, wow. Exactly. So I'm just like, oh, crazy.
Yeah. So now like,
okay, whoa. Okay. Uh, and it, and it was, and I played the film to them and it's,
once there was
another great night, uh, some great, uh, what was we sipping on? We were sipping
on, um, some great
scotch. Yeah. We had some great scotch. I don't smoke weed like that no more.
So, you know, that's,
do you still smoke weed? What happened when you stopped? I just, I, I don't
function good in public
with weed. Who does? Well, okay. People think they do. Exactly. But I, I don't
want to see that photo.
I don't want to, I don't want to be that guy no more. It's like, if I'm home
also, to be honest with
you, if I smoke weed, bro, I started doing Kung Fu, bro. Really? Yeah. I'm out
there going to sit
quiet and like be a total. Oh, you start. Yeah. And motherfuckers like, yo,
what's this?
Yeah, exactly. I'll start doing shit like that. I mean, with a fucking suit on
or some shit.
Yeah. That sounds fun. Yeah. You know, so I, I, I kind of, uh, 2015 was when I,
when I stopped.
Really? Completely? Yeah. Maybe. I mean, not, yes, for completely. But then I
said I would only smoke
with, uh, with two or three people in the world. One of them is Quentin Tarantino,
you know,
um, because we watch our Kung Fu movies. We're not going nowhere. I smoke, if I
have some weed with him,
I know that I'm in a, you know, no photos is happening. You're not going to see
this. Right,
right, right. The, the, the Zonky RZA. Uh, my other brother I smoke with, I won't
say his name,
because I don't know if people know he smoke. I think everybody knows he smoke,
but I won't say his name and shit. Um, and that Barney see him once a year,
twice a year,
you know what I mean? Um, and that's really it. And even like, I haven't smoked
a blunt with Method Man
in over 12 years, bro. Wow. And that's my, that's my, that was my, he's the
king of smoking anyway,
but that was like my, but I just, like I said, I just don't like how, uh, yeah,
it just doesn't fit
my, my, my today's personality. So I'm a sipper now. I'll just sip on some,
some, uh, not no syrup.
I mean, I know what you mean. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. A little scotch. A little scotch.
A little tequila.
I love tequila. Mezcal. You know, look, there's nothing wrong with all those
things. I think they're all
tools. And I think one of the things about tools is you can misuse them. And I
think there's a lot of
people that just live in the cloud and they just get high all the time. And
then they just feel like
their life is out of control. And then pure abstinence becomes the only
solution. But it's really,
you just started abusing the tool. I think marijuana is an excellent tool for
creativity.
And the way I like it the most is writing. I think it's, it's the greatest
thing ever for writing.
There's something that happens with just not a lot, just a little bit of weed,
just all sudden,
bing, ideas start sparking off in your head. Then I go, I don't think that
these ideas would exist
without this stuff. That's one of the things that Carl Sagan said. Jamie, what's
that famous
Carl Sagan quote on cannabis? But Carl Sagan, who's obviously like one of the
most famous astronomers
of all time, he had, uh, and wrote that great movie Contact, that great book
Contact. He had this
quote about cannabis that I always like to say to people that want to say it's
for dummies.
Because it's like, no man, it's, there's something to it. You could look like a
dummy if you abuse it,
just like you look like an idiot if you get so drunk that you can't walk.
Exactly. It's the same thing,
but a little bit, just a, just a little bit sometimes just fires up. The illegality
of cannabis,
outrageous and impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the
serenity and insight,
sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and
dangerous world.
That was one quote, but there was a, another quote that he had about ideas that
are available through
cannabis that aren't available without it. That his perception, and obviously
here's, here's a guy that,
I mean, what better way to utilize weed than to smoke a little and stare at the
fucking vastness of the cosmos and just try to
with it, well, open up your mind to this. That's, that's exactly what I mean
for me, right?
So, so if I, so it's only two things going to happen for me. I'm gonna smoke
and I'm gonna just be like, even if I'll be in here finding fucking constellations.
You see what I mean? Yeah. Or kung fu. I'm doing kung fu. That's, those sounds
like two good things. Yeah, I'm not knocking them,
but it's definitely, uh, my schedule. It doesn't, it doesn't fit in. Yeah, it
doesn't fit in.
That's the thing is like, what is life? Is life about schedule? Is life about
enjoying moments?
And I think there's, there's something to be said for enjoying moments and
there's certain things
that will help enhance moments. And I think, uh, that's where cannabis comes in
into play. I think the
problem with it is the problem with anything that human beings abuse, whether
it's soda,
chocolate, whatever, alcohol, food, people abuse things. They go too far with
it. You don't use it
correctly. And I think it's also part of the problem with it being illegal. One
of the things about
alcohol being legal is we understand what a dose is. If I give you a shot of tequila
and we both clink
glasses and we do a shot, we understand the dose. That is one shot of tequila.
It's not confusing.
Whereas we all know weed, you know, you get ahold of some of Snoop's weed or
some,
some people are just, they're, they're dealing with botanists that are on
another planet, man.
Let me, let me say one thing about Snoop's weed one day, bro. When I was
smoking, I did an interview with him
and, uh, that's when he had that GSC. He had the G, he had some network that he
had and we was talking
about my movie and then I was going, everything was fine. Like then, you know,
he's, he's rolling it,
you know, he was talking. Then he lit that motherfucker up and passed that shit,
bro.
I hit that shit, hit it back, hit it again. I was like, I'm getting the out of
here.
And y'all, I was gone.
Yeah. That's Joey Diaz weed too. Joey Diaz got that same kind of weed. I've
given it to some
people and I'm like, careful, that's Joey Diaz weed. And they get scared. Like,
oh Jesus.
Yeah. You got to go home and get a pillow, get a pillow ready. Cause that shit
is going to
fucking, and he could do it all day. Like him and Method man out of, for my,
and I give burner boy in that category as well. Those are the three most people
that I've seen very
weed tolerant. Like, like, like, like they could be on the third one and then
you hit it and you're like,
what the fuck, yo, how the fuck, how the fuck are y'all going like that? They
going all day long.
Yeah. When Snoop was in here, he just kept rolling blunts and I was like, how
are you still awake?
How, how are you, how do you function? But they're so accustomed to it. Right.
That their tolerance is so high and that feeling of just being in the cloud all
the time, they're
fine with it. Did you find that other quote? There's multiple quotes. He had an
essay, so.
It was something about ideas being available. Um, that aren't, that was the big
quote. Yeah. It didn't
say, uh, understand himself. It doesn't say that in here. That's okay. I feel
no worries. I should
have found, I should have had it ready. But the point is, it's like, it's a
tool and you could use
any tool correctly or you could use it and abuse it incorrectly. So what's your
frequency of smoking?
Like you, you smoke once a day, once a week. I just wish it was legal. If it
was legal, then
people could. It is legal many places, isn't it? Yeah, but it's not federally
legal. It's just got
changed to schedule three. So schedule three is the same as Tylenol with codeine.
So what does that
mean? That means that you have to get a prescription for it. So it doesn't
carry the same, uh, the crazy
thing is it's completely legal in California and it's generating tax revenue.
It's completely legal in
Colorado generating tax revenue. And then people always want to point to the
negative aspects of
it. But like you could, you could have negative aspects with everything else
that's legal too.
Think about how many people die from obesity every year, obesity related
diseases. Let's put that into
perplexity, put that into our AI sponsor. What is, how many people die because
of obesity related
diseases every year? So you're saying, so should we regulate food? Should we
regulate the amount of
food that people are able to consume? Should we stop people? Should we, should
we make cake and ring
dings and ho ho should we make that illegal? No, you have to have some personal
responsibility and some
self-control and an understanding of like what the ramifications are. What is
the, what are the dangers of
overeating or eating the wrong kinds of food? That's the same with cannabis,
the same with alcohol.
If you think that alcohol should be illegal, well you're going to, people are
going to drink it and
then you're just going to empower organized crime like they did during the
prohibition.
Okay. How about this? World Health Organization reports that at least 2.8
million people die
each year as a result of being overweight or obese. That's fucking crazy. That's
crazy bro.
Globally it's three to five million people a year. Wait, so where's the 2.8 at?
That's here?
I don't know. No here is, uh, okay. Okay. Okay. U.S. is here. So it's 280,000
to 325,000 per year.
They knocked out opioids. Knocked it out of the park. So that, so we're, we're
all worried about opioids
and no one's worried about pizza. But that doesn't mean that pizza should be
illegal. Yeah. And that's
the thing, especially New York pizza bro. That's the best pizza. Connecticut.
New Haven. Look, there's,
you just have to have an understanding of what to do and not to do. You know,
don't eat pizza 24
hours a day every day. You'll die. Right. Right. Don't eat a pound of salt. You
eat a pound of salt,
you'll be dead. Wasn't there a documentary with a guy, um, I'm not talking. Supersize
me. Yeah. What
was he eating every day? He's eating McDonald's. Yeah. All day, every day for
every meal. And that was like 30
days before like the Grim Reaper started knocking at the door. Yeah. He wasn't
doing well, but he,
he had all sorts of liver problems. Didn't McDonald's just release some
subscription where you get like,
it's like $52 a month and you could eat as much as you want. I think they just
did that today.
What's that look, Jerry? What's that face? That doesn't make any sense. I know
it doesn't make any
sense. $52. I think they just did that today. I saw it on my Google news alert
this morning. Did that make sense?
No, it doesn't make sense unless they're limiting the amount of meals that you
can have in a day.
But if you have a subscription, say if you have a McDonald's subscription and
it's $52 a month
and they, and that's all you eat, you could live off of $52 a month. Well, not
according to that
documentary. That's two months. You out of here. Well, what if you only ate
their salads and you
only ate their beef patties without any bread? So it'd probably be better off.
It'd probably be okay.
But even their beef probably has like fillers in it and shit. I'm still, I'm
still living a vegan lifestyle.
Still? Yeah. Yeah. What do you get mostly for your protein? Mostly beans. Um, I
probably do consume
a little bit too much soy, I think. Cause I do eat tofu. Shout out to our
friend CK. Hey, in the building.
Oh yeah. Yeah. He bought in, I can't wait to eat something else. Yeah. Wu Chao.
That place. Rules.
Yes. He, he, he bought us lunch, which we will eat after we finish this. Phenomenal
Chinese restaurant
here in Austin. Phenomenal. You know what he got that, that I realized? What?
He has those Sichuan peppers.
Oh yeah. That's it. It's cracked. They kick. Yeah. They kick. They make my, my
bald head sweats.
Yes. Those are dripping. Yeah. Dripping down to my eyebrows. Exactly. I'm sorry.
What were we
looking up again, Jamie? It's McDonald's unlimited planet. Oh yeah. Did you
find it? Is it fake?
Well, I'm just, uh, the only places that it pops up are a, there's one
Instagram post. It was in my Google
news feed. People are reporting it, but it's, it seems to be only based off of
a photo, which is most
likely, uh, AI. Oh yeah. 54 bucks a month. This photo is going around, but
there's no links to
McDonald's isn't saying it. There's no like press release about it. Interesting.
Oh, cause so it's
bullshit. It's bullshit. Cause I was thinking like, how could they afford? Now
what else I would say,
they do do test stuff and it is claiming it's a pilot program being tested
somewhere. So
potentially they're trying something out somewhere, but again, I don't see any
reporting of it.
Unlimited meals is a weird, if you're going to limit it, you can't say
unlimited because if you don't,
if you, if it's unlimited, then you could just feed your whole family for $54 a
month.
Right. You go, you go like take one. Hey, go back in. Yeah. Well, you could
just say unlimited. I
like to eat seven Big Macs. Give me seven Big Macs, seven orders of fries,
seven sodas,
and then you're feeding everybody for $54 a month. That's crazy. Does McDonald's
own Chipotle?
I don't know. Do they own Chipotle? I'm bringing a Chipotle because I got Chipotle.
I did a campaign
with them and they gave me a card, lifelong card. I could eat at Chipotle for
free for the rest of my
life. Really? And that's part of the campaign? No, this was like the gift for
you. Yeah. I didn't
even know that that was a thing. And, and, and I could, and I could have 10
people with 24 hour notice.
And I think it's, uh, I could do a catered event at least once a month. Wow.
For the rest of my life.
That's pretty good deal. That is a real thing. Really?
That's like a celebrity gold card thing they offer. Oh, nice. Some people have
gotten their
hands on it through different ways. Like Travis Barker has one here.
Interesting. I got one.
Travis is a, he's a vegan too. Yeah, I'm a vegan too. So he's eating the, just
the bean burritos and
stuff? Oh, the sofritos. They got some shit called sofrito. What is that?
Hopefully there's no chicken in there. No, I don't think there's no chicken. I
think it's like, uh,
there's like a vegan, vegan meat. So most of your animal pro or most of your
protein is from
what? Tofu? Yeah. Chick, chick. I love chickpeas. Chickpeas. Lentils. I'm crazy
for lentils. Um,
my wife would throw a pot of lentils on. Pea protein is really good. Pea
protein.
Hemp protein is really good. Hemp is good. Hemp protein is, uh, I think it's
one of the few
plant-based proteins that contains all the amino acids and it's very bioavailable
too.
Pumpkin seeds, bro. Pumpkin seeds. Pumpkin seeds. Really? Yeah. Look up pumpkin
seeds, bro. Pumpkin
seeds probably have the most best protein. Really? Pumpkin seeds. They taste
good too. I keep them in my car, bro.
When they're roasted? Yeah. Roasted pumpkin seeds. A little salt on them? Mmm.
Trust me,
every time I get in the whip, I got pumpkin seeds. What's that? Wow. What does
it say about the...
Oh, and... They reduce the risk of cancer and improve bowel and prostate health.
Pumpkin seeds, bro. That's it. Rich in protein, fiber, unsaturated fats, and
must-have minerals.
Pepitas are a great healthy snacking option. All right. Yeah, pumpkin seeds are
delicious. Yeah,
so you get those, you get some chickpeas. Isn't it weird that people when they
make like
their fucking jack-o'-lanterns, they scoop that shit out and throw it away?
Yeah. Give them to me.
That's like the most, the healthiest part of the pumpkin. That's weird. It's
weird what we throw away.
Like we're just so used to like waste. Yeah. So used to like having an
abundance of food that we're
not concentrating on this part of the plant that has the most protein. Right.
In the plant, probably the
most nutritious part of the pumpkin. Well, you know, my buddy was here
yesterday. He, uh,
they don't throw away too much of that, uh, too much of that meat for that
Texas barbecue.
You guys got this motherfucking boy. No, they don't fuck around. Yo, yo, you,
there was a, a, a 15-minute wait line around the corner of 200 people.
Where were you at? Which place? Um, it was, I don't know the name of it.
Terry Black's? I don't know. Cause I just drove at my man, Amazon went there.
And so, you know, he couldn't come out to Texas and not get some Texas barbecue.
You know what I mean? I'm a vegan. What I'm gonna do? You know what I mean?
I only have some good beans and macaroni and it's just a bunch of different
stuff
that you can get there. Potato salad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, potato salad,
I got it. Oh, that's right. It's got mayonnaise and milk and eggs.
Yeah. You've been on, you've been a vegan for a lot, since the nineties, right?
Yeah. Well, no, I started vegetarian, uh, in the nineties. And by the time I
got to 2000,
I started. You don't fuck with eggs at all? No, I got rid of the eggs. No?
Yeah. I don't know. The eggs, what got me off the fucking eggs, bro?
I think my personality got me off the eggs. Why is that?
I don't know. So like, you know, it's like, like, like, I'm, I'm like, what's
the word?
I could be scornful. Is that the word? Like when you like, like, like, I don't
know,
like, I'm like, I'm like, I, I, I, like a Felix Unger type of shit. You know,
you ever watch Felix Unger? Like a couple. Yeah. Like you don't want pits in
his orange juice
or something. So eggs like one day, it's just, it's just, it's just the slime
of the egg.
It's just, just cook it. Yeah. But it didn't got that little white in it, bro.
It's so good for you. And if you have your own chickens, like I have my own
chickens, eggs are
karma-free protein. They're like pets that give you free protein. Right, right.
Because they're, they're laying an egg that will never be a chicken because it's
not fertilized.
Exactly. So it's just free protein. Right. And they lay them every day,
basically,
or close to it. And you feed them and they run around the backyard and they
pick bugs and grass.
Right. What do you feed them?
Chicken food. You know, you buy chicken feed and we also feed them some table
scraps
and vegetables and, and different things, but they're carnivores, man, which is
really wild.
Like you see them eat a mouse. It's crazy. What? They tear mice. You never seen
a chicken eat a mouse?
I've never seen the chicken. Chickens are straight up dinosaurs. There's some
great videos of chickens
around a cat and a cat's playing with a mouse. And the chicken just runs up on
the cat and steals the
mouse from them and tears it apart. I didn't see that. Yeah. I fed a chicken
that I, well,
one chicken stole the mouse, but this is what happened. So, uh, in my house in
California,
we used to have a wrought iron fence and we replaced it with a glass fence.
Unfortunately,
hawks couldn't tell that it was a glass fence and we lost a few hawks and they
slammed into it head
first and got KO'd and some of them died. We lost like two hawks died. It was
really sad,
but one of them survived and my family, my wife and my daughters took the hawk
and put it in like a
large cardboard box. It couldn't fly. And they had to feed it over the weekend
because the rescue
shelter couldn't take it over the weekend. We had to bring it in on Monday. And
so they go, well,
what are hawks? How do you feed it? We went to the store and, uh, the, the pet
store and the pet food
store had these things called pinkies and what they are is like little baby
mice. And so you put these little
baby mice in with the hawk and the hawk ate most of them, but one of them lived.
One of them,
the hawk didn't eat it. The hawk had enough, had enough pinkies. It ate enough.
So my daughters were
like, we want to keep that one alive. I'm like, it's not going to live. It
doesn't have the milk.
It doesn't have its mother. It hasn't been weaned. It's going to die. Right.
And I said,
let me just feed it to the chickens. I didn't even know if they were going to
eat it. I didn't know
what was going to happen. I put that little mouse down in the cage and that
chicken just ran up and
snatch it. And they all stole it away. So watch this cat. This cat's fucking
with this mouse.
The cats you think cats are ruthless. Yeah, he's playing with this motherfucker.
But he's playing
with it. He wants to watch it hop away. And then the chicken gets annoyed after
a while. And the
chicken's like, give me that shit, bitch. And when the chicken runs up on the
mouse,
watch this instantaneously. As soon as the chicken realizes this, look, give me
that shit,
and just starts tearing it apart. Chickens aren't into playing with things at
all.
They just rip it to shreds. Nah, that's it. This is dinner. Yeah, just shaking
it and mangling it.
I'm out of here. They were all chasing each other around the chicken coop where
this one chicken
had the mouse in its mouth and they were all trying to steal it from her mouth.
Oh, they wanted it more
than anything. That's crazy. Because they don't act like that with chicken food
at all. Right, right.
They wanted some meat, bro. Yeah, or dried worms. Or that's one of them, like
worm meal. You buy these
like boxes of dried and you shake it and they come running and you'll like
leave that out for them.
They love that. So, okay, so now your chickens, you got your own, how many? I
have 15, 15 chickens.
Oh, wow. So you're getting what? How many? A bunch of eggs, like probably at
least 10 eggs every day.
Wow. And so, because they don't always lay them every day. Of course, of course.
But it's free protein and it's healthy for you. You know exactly where it came
from.
There's no hormones, no pesticides, no herbicides, no nothing. Let me, let me
interrupt our podcast
for a moment. Okay. This is the RZA. I'm sitting here with Joe Rogan. I have a
new film coming out.
May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate, starring Shamique Moore and Paris
Jackson,
produced by Quentin Tarantino, in theaters everywhere, May 1st. And that's only
a couple days from now.
Today is the 27th. So it's this Friday, May 1st. This Friday.
There it is. One spoon of chocolate.
Because one spoon of chocolate can do what?
Change a whole glass of milk. Change the whole glass of milk.
But anyway, eggs. It's good for you. They're really good for you, healthy and
karma-free.
You don't have to worry about anything suffering. Right.
Now the only thing that I don't complain about as a vegan, and I don't cook
with it or use it,
but if some butter slipped on my shit, I'm not going to flip out.
Yeah, you shouldn't because it's just milk that comes out of a cow. It doesn't,
you know,
especially if you get it from an organic farm. It's no big deal.
Right. So that's the only thing that, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I
use all that plant-based butter,
and they got this thing called, well now Country Croc got plant-based avocado
oil butter.
Really? Yeah.
How the fuck do they make that?
That's the problem with all that stuff that's like fake meat and fake this is
that it's really processed.
Right.
You know, I think if you want to eat vegetables and vegetarian diet, like the
way to do it is the way
the Indians do it. It's like Indian food from India, you know, there's a lot of
amazing Indian vegetarian food.
I stay in an Indian restaurant.
Oh, so good. So spicy and so delicious, and they've been cooking just
vegetarian dishes for probably thousands of years.
Cleans you right out.
Oh, that's true. It opens up the gates.
Bama-lama.
Let's go.
Let's go, baby.
Don't have a flight.
Yeah, exactly. If you do get a seat in the back.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's a, but it's, there was a place that I used to live near, near my old
house in California,
that was in an Indian neighborhood, and there was this Indian restaurant. It
was like a,
you know, like a cafeteria style where you just go and, I didn't even know what
the fuck
the names of these things were. They had photos of whatever it was, but it was
all in Indian,
and I would just point it out. And it was all, everyone who ate there was
Indian.
Right.
It was very few regular, I mean, no white people, no African Americans, it was
all Indians.
Wait, where's that, wait, I feel like I might have fucking been there, bro.
In the valley.
In the valley.
In the valley.
In the valley, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's not a restaurant.
Yeah, it's like a store, and in the back of the store, you've been to that
place.
Yeah, and you could buy some fucking spices of your own.
Yes, yes, God, I wish I remembered the name of the place, because the spices
were awesome too.
It had, it was a great place, and in the back, they had this like cafeteria
style.
Yeah.
It was fun, it was all Indian people.
Yep, yep.
Phenomenal, phenomenal restaurant.
I'm the kind of guy that do that too, like I'll go to the Asian market and shit,
and I'll go, fuck, I'll go, I know that I'm getting a bunch of good shit.
Oh, that's it, India sweets and spices.
Damn, Jamie's a wizard.
Nice.
Where is that joint?
Canoga Park.
That's it, Canoga Park, that's exactly it, that's the spot.
That's not far from our old office.
Oh, that's real close to where my old studio was too.
Yeah, and I was on, I still got the same office though, right over there.
Yo, bro, your old studio, right?
Yeah.
You know what happened to it, right?
No.
Bro, that whole shit, they tore that shit down.
They did?
It's now the LA Rams training facility.
Oh, wow.
Do you remember that AMC?
Yeah.
Bro.
Really?
Tore it down, bro.
They building some other shit there.
Wow.
That's crazy.
That is crazy.
Because back, that's for the fans, you know, I could, I could see Joe's office
from my window,
his studio from my window back in those, back in those days and shit.
Wow.
But now, all that is the LA Rams training facility.
So I watched the Rams train and shit from my window.
Man, that's crazy.
Yeah.
That neighborhood's very interesting.
There's a lot of cool stuff.
There's a phenomenal Mexican spot down there.
What is it called?
The Big Burrito?
That's what it's called, right?
I think that's it.
There's this phenomenal Mexican joint and you go in there, it's all like
Mexican soap operas
playing.
Everybody speaks Spanish, no one there to speak in English and the food is
sensational.
Yeah, Big Burrito.
It's just, that's it.
The Big Burrito.
The Big Burrito.
That place fucking rules.
When I lived there, I didn't tell people about it because I didn't want to blow
up the spot.
I wanted to be able to go in there.
I would never bring it up on the podcast and they've reached out to me thanking
me because
we've brought it up a few times, but that place fucking rules.
You want to get like a legit burrito, legit quesadilla, legit tacos, like lengua
tacos,
like cow tongue.
I know you don't eat meat, but if you did, and even their bean burritos are
fucking phenomenal.
It's just like real legit spicy Mexican food.
Well, to me, it's all about the sauce.
If you got good salsa, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Oh, that place is so good.
There's those places that you find in LA, they're real hard to find in Texas.
Texas, you get a lot of Tex-Mex, you know, whereas in LA, you get straight
Mexican.
Let's talk about that for a moment because I actually thought about that
because New York,
I mean, now it's okay, but New York, we, for years, bro, we didn't have good
Mexican food, bro.
They do now?
Yeah, because now it's been more, some more brothers came in and there's some
pocket communities.
But trust me, in New York, bro, for years, I didn't, I thought I was eating
Mexican food
until I went to California.
Yeah.
Then I was like, okay, now I...
San Diego has some of the absolute best Mexican food in the world.
San Diego is great.
San Diego is great.
But I find Texas and New Mexico, like I find this part of the country as well
having a lot of good
flavors.
But I'm interested, how do you, like, if you were to say from your travels, the
best Mexican food,
is it California?
Is it the Midwest?
What would you say?
Well, there's really good Mexican food in Texas, but you got to seek it out.
Whereas there's a lot of Tex-Mex here, which is also really good,
but you could tell it's not straight Mexican.
You know what I mean?
It's like a fusion.
Right.
And in California, you don't have any of that.
In California, it's just Mexican.
And there's so many great Mexican restaurants in California.
Right, right, right.
San Diego is filled with them, but LA is filled with them too.
But it's spots like that, like the big burrito, where you go to a place like
that,
you walk in, you're like, oh my God, I'm home.
Because it's like the smells, and then you see the Spanish soap operas playing.
Right, right, this is real.
This is legit.
Yeah, I was driving down the street last night and shit, and I just found this
really funny,
right?
So I'm driving down the street.
I mean, I'm not driving personally.
I don't drive, but the car, my car.
You don't drive at all?
I don't drive.
I haven't drove since 2012.
I haven't driven a car.
How come?
I just let go.
You know what happened, bro?
What happened?
I was in China.
You don't want to drive in China.
Well, I got to be honest.
Like, we was doing the film there, and every time, every morning that I would
go to work,
it almost, like every day, it almost happened.
Like, it almost, like, that's...
Almost a car accident.
Yeah, every day, bro.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So, and even, like, my brother, Russell Crowe, like, we'll get to set in the
morning.
I love that, dude.
And yo, he'll say the same thing, like, yo, Bobby, like, I'll be, yeah, bro.
We made it.
Right?
But so then when I came home, I just stopped driving, bro.
You just didn't want to be a part of it anymore?
Nope.
I haven't drove since then.
Have you ever fucked with any of those Waymos?
You ever gotten any of those things?
No.
You?
No.
No.
No.
No.
But I do have a Tesla that'll drive me.
Have you did it?
Yeah.
I've had it drive me all the way home.
Yeah?
It's crazy.
Yeah.
How do you feel, though?
Uncomfortable.
I don't like it.
I like driving.
I do.
I enjoy driving.
But with my Tesla, I'll put an address, like, say, if I want to go to a
restaurant or something
like that, and go doo-doo, and it'll drive me.
It'll stop at stop signs and stoplights.
It'll change lanes if there's anything in the way.
It hits the blinkers to change lanes.
It turns.
It does everything.
Right.
I mean, it literally can drive you from point A to...
Do you ever fuck with it, Jamie?
Do you ever use it?
I just found out through the update that, like, I haven't been using full self-driving.
I've been using whatever was right before that.
Oh.
Which, to me, I thought was the exact same.
It drives itself, too.
But...
What's the difference?
Because it said that you're at, like, it gave me an option to turn it on.
Oh.
And I was like, I thought I was...
What?
Hold on.
What am I doing then?
Oh, that's weird.
Because it still drives itself.
I don't remember, because I turned...
I got my...
It's a part of a subscription, right?
Isn't it?
That's when I got...
I was like, wait.
I thought I had it.
Hold on.
Whatever.
Whatever it's been doing.
Whatever it is, I definitely have it.
Because I've used it.
You mean...
Yeah.
It ain't automatic?
I think so.
I think you pay more for it.
I'm not sure.
I don't want to talk out of turn.
That's why I also didn't understand it either.
But yeah, I think so.
I think you pay for it.
Because I think it's more complex.
It's using a bunch of different...
I don't know.
I'm making things up.
I don't know.
But I do know it works.
If you press it...
I saw the Waymo.
I saw Waymo on the way here to you.
Mm-hmm.
And it was right beside us.
And I was like, "Yo, bro.
Why have a steering wheel with the old school fucking uh..."
With a gear changer?
Yeah.
If nobody gonna drive this shit.
Well, in case it breaks.
And then if somehow, maybe there's an override where you could just drive it.
Yeah, but still.
That's the grandma thing, bro.
The shifter on the column?
Yeah.
It's like...
This is...
We in the future.
There shouldn't be no steering wheel like that.
My Cadillac has that.
My Cadillac shifts on the column like that.
That's for the what?
An Escalade?
Yeah.
Does it?
Putting drive like that.
I thought the shit is right here now.
Uh-uh.
I got my shit right here, bro.
Pretty sure.
Right?
That might be for your lights or shit.
No, I'm pretty sure.
Okay.
I mean, I have a bunch of cars, but I'm pretty...
I don't drive.
I don't even know.
I don't drive.
We're gonna put a studio in at the racetrack.
The Circuit of the Americas.
I'm gonna take you around the racetrack.
I'm gonna put you in the car.
You're gonna drive around the racetrack.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know about this thing for the Escalade, I thought.
Yeah, that's it.
That's the suit.
Not the new one.
Yeah, it says 2023.
No.
2026 Escalade V. Escalade.
Gearshift.
Yeah, but it doesn't...
That's not how it works.
I'm 90% sure...
There it is.
Right there.
On the column.
See it?
Right there.
That's how it is.
That's what mine looks like.
Okay.
See that little...
They put it back up there?
Yeah, they put it back up there.
They put them on your console.
Right.
For cups and all that stuff.
Yeah, that's where mine is.
I love that thing.
So anyway, I'm coming...
Well, I'm gonna Escalade yesterday, right?
I don't know where the gear shit was at.
But I got the window down, getting some of this beautiful Austin air.
And a truck drives up beside me, playing this Spanish song.
He's blasting this shit.
This shit sound cool like a motherfucker, right?
I'm like, "Yo, what is this shit?"
So I shazam it.
Right?
So I shazam it.
And then I get the song, right?
Right.
And then I start playing it in my car.
And the truck keeps going on.
But then we, you know, we're still driving slow.
Then I can see the car beside me.
They shazammed it.
You know what I mean?
And I was like, "Wait a minute.
That doesn't happen.
I mean, that's what we need again."
Yeah.
Like where...
Like somebody's just playing some fucking music.
You never heard the song before.
You like it.
Yes.
You got it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I love Shazam.
I got two Spanish songs now in my joint.
That is part of my new playlist, yo.
They just got from listening to people's cars.
Yeah.
Just driving by like, "Yo, hold on.
That shit sound dope."
Yeah.
That's a new thing, right?
Because we don't have radio as much anymore.
There's not a lot of people listening to the radio.
A lot of times you're getting new songs like...
Oftentimes like I'll be at dinner someplace and they'll be playing music.
I'll go, "Oh, what is this?"
Right.
And I'll put my phone up in the air and try to catch it.
Right.
You know?
That's dope.
That's one of the greatest things about technology to me because it is that
ability to know.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Like you can know now if you want to know.
Yeah.
You don't got to wait to know.
Yeah.
Like every time you get a thought here that we not too sure about, he could hit
that button.
Exactly.
And give us a reference, you know?
I know.
Sometimes we leave a podcast and I'm like, "Maybe we should have looked that
one up."
Because it turns out that shit's not true.
Well, I have beaten Google a few times now.
You've won?
You beat Google?
Yeah.
Well, Google's a little deceptive, I think.
But if you use AI, like we use perplexity, it searches for the whole internet.
Right.
It doesn't just, you know, use whatever Google.
The problem with Google, not that it's a problem, but these are curated
searches.
So like, like say, like here's a perfect example.
Say if you want to find a Mexican restaurant, right?
And you use Google.
What Google's going to do is some people are paying so that their restaurant
gets to the
top of the search list.
Right.
That's a little bit of a problem.
Right.
That might not be the best restaurant.
Right.
That might just be a restaurant that paid Google.
Whereas, if you go to like perplexity and say, in terms of like restaurant
critics, what
is the favorite authentic Mexican restaurant in Austin?
And it'll tell you.
Right.
It'll say, "These people believe that this is it."
And there's no curation yet.
Right.
I mean, my wife is actually, we were talking about this today.
Like one day they're going to fuck that up too.
And people are going to pay to get that to it.
Right, right.
But right now they haven't done that.
So right now you could find spots, like cool spots that haven't, you know, with
no curation.
No sponsored.
Exactly.
And let's check.
Let's do a test real quick.
Okay.
Okay.
So there's 196,940,000 square miles on the planet, right?
Whoa.
There's 63,360 inches, right?
Because it's 5,280 feet in the mile.
So I'm going to start over.
There's 196,940,000 square miles.
In the country?
On the planet?
On the planet.
Okay.
Okay.
For one mile, there's 5,280 feet.
Okay.
And of course there's 12 inches in the feet.
So you multiply that by 12, you'll get 63,360 inches.
I want perplexity to tell me how many square inches on the planet.
Whoa.
Let's see what you get.
Boy, that number's got to be bananas.
I guarantee you we're going to look at a long fucking number.
Lot of zeros.
That's a good question.
That is a good question.
Dun, dun, dun.
Does it even have an answer?
It's probably confused.
It's like, hold on.
What the fuck are you talking about?
You're perplexing me.
It's like, what are you doing?
We perplexed perplexity.
There you go.
Okay.
I didn't answer correctly the first time I typed it in.
Eight times ten to the 17 square inches on Earth's surface.
What does that look like in a raw number?
Exactly.
Ask it what it looks like in a raw number.
Eight with 17.
Seventeen zeros?
Pretty much.
Ten to the seventeenth?
Yeah.
That's what that is?
Seventeen zeros?
So basically, it took the six three, three six oh, and they squared it.
Uh-huh.
And that's how they got to there.
Wow.
But it didn't give us no fucking a direct answer, right?
Well, it did, but it did it with ten to the 17.
Okay.
So let's do this now.
Type that out.
Type that number out and divide it by four.
Okay.
Let's see.
Type it out.
I'm going to see what this looks like.
This must look bananas.
Whoa!
And now divide it by four.
Before you do that, can you ask it?
How would you say that?
I was trying to figure it out.
Like it's not a trillion.
It's not a quadrillion.
Like what is that?
It's a quintillion.
Is it a quintillion?
This is billion, right?
Yeah.
This is trillion.
A quadrillion?
So it's...
A quadrillion?
Wait, no.
15.
15.
Sorry.
Just to ask it, how would you say that, please?
How would you say that?
800 quadrillion square inches.
Quadrillion.
Wow.
Remember when you were a kid, you'd think that was a fake word?
Yeah.
Bro, I want a quadrillion money.
Would you believe that the earth weighs, the atmosphere weighs 15 quintillion
tons?
Let's see.
Just the atmosphere?
Yeah.
Just the atmosphere.
Just the gases.
The planet earth weighs six sextillion.
Kanye said the wildest shit on my podcast once.
He goes, "How much does the earth cost?"
Mm.
Right?
And at the time, I was like, "What?"
And then I thought about it.
I was like, "Oh, shit."
Like, property is valuable.
Valuable.
You can own property.
Right.
Right?
Like, everybody kind of...
Everything is owned.
Like, how much is the earth?
That's a big...
That's a...
Well, you could get the number there, too.
Because, well, if you count the minerals...
Right.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then you gotta hold another hustle.
And then there's the ocean.
And the oil.
And the ocean.
The ocean.
And the fish.
Yeah.
Right.
And then all the animals.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then it has to appreciate day by day.
Right.
Why don't I put that into perplexity?
If you were gonna sell the earth, how much would it be worth?
Ooh.
Including everything on it.
That's a mind-fucking-aff.
Economists usually estimate the world's real estate, all land plus the
buildings on it,
a few hundred trillion US dollars, not counting oceans, polar ice, or unowned
space.
That sounds like a bargain.
Yeah.
A few hundred trillion, that's it?
Nah.
Okay, let's say, let's ask, what is the worth of the earth, all its property,
all its minerals,
animals, and objects?
That's a crazy question.
That's a crazy question.
Yeah, it's a good one though.
Yeah.
Everything on earth.
Every watch, every diamond ring, every hat.
One dollar.
Every piece of art.
Well, I mean, the question I typed in was property and land.
Right.
What is the value of everything on earth?
Every-
I like what you say to them, folks.
Every electronic value of everything on earth, including animals, minerals,
property, and objects.
Oh boy.
I wonder how it's going to figure this out.
I don't think it will.
I bet it will.
It's going to look off of-
It's going to freak out.
It's going to blow a gasket.
It's not figuring it out.
It's-
Yeah, it does give you something.
There's no precise number.
Oh, somewhere in the quadrillions to sextillions of US dollars, depending on
what you count and
how you value it.
It says plausible attempts to add it up.
Right.
There's no single agreed upon price tag for everything on earth.
But this is the answer to Kanye's question.
But you know what, though?
Now-
No, hold on.
We just learned something there.
It said quadrillion to what?
Sextillions.
Now, Axe, how much does the planet earth weigh?
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, I had already did that, but we've passed it before I could show you.
The atmosphere weighs quintillions.
12 quintillion pounds.
Yeah.
In total.
Yeah.
I said 15, so I was off.
I forgot that number.
But Axe, how much does the planet earth weigh?
Whoa.
How much does the entire earth weigh?
Let's guess.
No, don't do the atmosphere.
We're just trying to get the value.
I want to see if it gives you, I mean, the atmosphere should already be
included.
Right?
I think it won't include it.
I think it won't include it.
So basically-
What is the atmosphere?
How much does the entire earth weigh?
How much does the entire earth weigh?
Let's guess.
It might not.
No, don't do the atmosphere.
We're just trying to get the value.
I want to see if it gives you, I mean, the atmosphere should already be
included, right?
I think it, that's what I think it won't include it.
So basically-
What is that word?
What is that in a word?
Ask that what that is, that 13.
Yeah, tell them, put it in pounds, not kilograms.
Because that's not even seven.
That's eight.
What does that mean?
Right.
But what is that?
Ask it to say that.
Can you say that?
Yeah, what does it mean?
How do you say it?
Septillion.
Thirteen septillion pounds.
That doesn't sound impressive.
No.
No.
It doesn't.
It sounds like a couple of lizards.
But yo, I believe it's wrong, bro.
Why?
Because when you take the square miles, the circumference, right?
And you multiply, there's a formula to get that weight.
Right.
It doesn't come out to that.
What does it come out to?
Six sextillion.
Six followed by 21 zeros.
This is more.
This was three more zeros on top of that.
Yeah.
But it sounds good.
But if you take the formula of a sphere, of the mass, this number is closer.
Yeah.
But does it take into account the density of the inner earth?
Because I think that's probably where a lot of the weight is coming from, right?
The density of the inner earth is immense.
Yeah.
I mean, it's all compressed energy.
If it's hollow.
If it's hollow.
If it's hollow.
It could be hollow.
If it's hollow.
If it's hollow.
If it's hollow.
If it's hollow.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
We got to take a sponsor break.
This is the RZA live on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Joe Rogan Experience.
I have a new movie coming out.
May 1st.
May 1st.
It's called One Spoon of Chocolate.
Starring Shyamik Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood.
It follows an ex-military convict who comes home and is trying to find a better
life for himself.
Ends up in a small town where everything goes fucking bananas.
In theaters.
Everywhere.
May 1st.
When is it going to be available on streaming?
I don't know.
Soon, right?
How do you usually do that?
So, to be honest, I'm like...
Like Iron Fist was, what year was that out?
That was 2011, 2012.
And it was a different atmosphere back then, right?
Different atmosphere, yeah.
Pre-COVID.
COVID changed a lot of movie-going habits, right?
Changed everything, yeah.
I want the movie-going experience to come back though.
Yeah, I do too.
Yeah.
I mean, there's something about going to see a great movie with a bunch of
people that's a real experience.
Yeah.
I think...
I'm so...
I mean...
My art, my career is based on sneaking into a fucking movie theater and
watching three kung fu movies.
Yeah.
So, I'm a big into cinema.
I think what we did...
So, this particular film is actually coming through my own distribution company
called 36 Cinema.
And I think we did a deal with the theaters that they can have at least 30 days.
A lot of people were doing 17 days in the theaters or 21 days.
Mm-hmm.
And cinema is suffering because of that.
Because why would I go to the theater if I got it at home?
You know what I mean?
And home is, of course, a great place to watch a movie.
But when you're making a movie, right, you're making it for the theater.
We haven't...
TV is made for home, but cinema is made for cinema.
Like, we haven't...
What can I say?
Like, the sound, the color, the framing.
Like, I use anamorphic lenses.
What does that mean?
Anamorphic.
Like, the lenses are the 50s where you fucking get this whole fucking scope.
You know what I mean?
And so, yeah, you can watch it on your phone.
What is the difference with an anamorphic lens and a regular lens?
A regular lens would be the way it bends the light in all reality.
Uh-huh.
So, like, you could have, like, a 16.9.
Okay.
See, that's...
So, that's...
Most lenses are spherical now.
That's that.
Right?
Which is cool.
Right?
But look at anamorphic.
It's the way...
It's the way it controls the light, the way the subject is happening.
And so, it kind of gives you more of a cinematic feel.
Well, your focus...
It's certainly, like, a little more blurry in the background.
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay.
And it kind of...
It's the way it's compressing that light differently.
And so, you...
With this lens, do you do everything on film or is it digital?
I actually shot this on digital.
So, yeah.
So, I mean, I'm in the digital age.
So, I did shoot digital.
Right.
But I did...
We did make 35 millimeter prints of the movie.
Oh.
So, if you were in California and you would go to the theater called The Vista.
Have you ever been to The Vista?
No.
Cool theater.
Where's that?
I think it's in Los Feliz or some shit like that.
Okay.
I'm bad at my Hollywood neighborhoods.
I'm like...
I'm still a New Yorker.
Right.
I get it.
But, The Vista Theater will show the film on 35 millimeter for like two weeks.
It'll be there starting May first.
Oh, that's cool.
So, if you want to see it, yeah.
If you want to see...
And 35 millimeter...
Oh, there you go.
The Vista.
I love this guy.
Hey, Jamie.
Jamie's the best.
His trigger finger is a motherfucker.
Oh, he's a goat.
Well, he's psychic.
He knows what you're talking about before you...
Exactly.
He's like...
Yeah.
So, that's The Vista.
So, what is the difference like the way it looks to you when you see it on 35
millimeter
versus digital?
Well, I think the 35 millimeter kind of...
It makes the colors a little more richer and darker.
Like kind of how the 70s films look and even up to the 80s.
The digital one, because I've watched my film in both formats.
The digital is more brighter and actually more familiar now to us.
Right.
We're accustomed to it.
Yeah, we're accustomed to it.
But when we...
I played it 30...
On April 22nd, I had a...
In fact, I want to talk about that a little bit if you don't mind.
But on April 22nd, we had our premiere in California on 35 millimeter.
And it was my first time seeing it on 35 millimeter.
I mean, so...
And it felt...
It felt very nostalgic.
I felt like I was back...
It felt like a movie only.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, not like a movie and a TV show or a movie...
It felt only like a movie.
Only a movie is previous.
The flickering.
When you...
When you...
You know, when you're doing 35 millimeter, you need...
You know, a real camera.
Right.
And so the light is going from this camera, from this one.
Then they got to switch the wheel from this, from this.
And it's like...
It's a certain thing that's happening.
A certain pacing.
A certain granular thing that's happening that for me, for my film, it felt
almost like
an honor to watch it like that.
Oh, that's cool.
I want to get...
Make a...
So check this out, bro.
So we talked about this last time I was here.
But April 22nd, right?
That was the day...
That I was acquitted from a crime and started my life over.
I was facing eight years.
April 22nd.
That's back in 1992.
Okay?
As you can see, a year later, I'm a platinum producer.
But before that, I was heading to hell.
April 22nd...
Seventipitously is the day that my film premieres on 35mm at the Vista Theatre
in Hollywood.
Wow.
April 22nd.
But you've seen the opening of the film as well.
So when my character gets out of jail, he marks on the calendar, the day he
gets out, April 22nd.
Mmm.
It's special, bro.
This is a special film.
It's special.
It's for my life, I'm saying.
For me, it's like...
Yeah, that's cool.
And it was my buddy, Shavo, from System of a Down, birthday.
We actually celebrate April 22nd every year because it wasn't my birthday, but
it was the birth of the RZA.
Because before that, I was known as Prince Rakeem.
But after that, acquitting, and my mother telling me, you know, you got a
second chance, I was like, exit Prince Rakeem into the RZA.
Nice.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
So when you were talking about the streaming thing, so do you... is that
something that's negotiated beforehand?
Like, it'll be in the theaters for X amount of time?
Or do you, once it's in the theater, do you then, like, depending on how well
it does in the theater, is that how you negotiate a streaming deal?
Or how does it work?
No, it works.
No, it works.
It's usually negotiated ahead of time.
Okay.
And all the streamers kind of dictate what's gonna happen.
So, since we had this on our own company, we had a chance to make the rules
ourselves.
So I did make a streaming deal, but I made the theatrical deal first.
And I gave the theaters 30 days first.
And so now my streamer, he would go at my streaming distribution, which is
Samuel Goodwin, they would go and...
I hope I pronounced that right, bro.
I could fuck a word up sometime.
I think that's the right word.
Okay, okay.
What up, Peter?
I'm the wrong guy to ask, though.
Yeah, I could fuck a word up.
But anyway, so, yeah, he'll solicit to streamers, but we wanted a 30-day cinema
experience.
And in the future, I'm gonna travel 45 days, bro.
Remember when we was kids, bro, Star Wars was in the theaters three times
before you had a chance to see it come home.
Yeah.
And what did you do?
You went back to the theater.
Yeah.
Because the lights, the sound, the vibe of what you're creating.
I make it for the theater.
I gotta be honest with you.
I make film for the theater.
When my other film came out during the pandemic, Cutthroat City, since there
was a pandemic, you know, even though my contract said it should be in theaters,
the pandemic of it kind of made it a force majeure, like maybe not in theaters.
But my producer, Michael Mendelsohn, who, you know, is a good guy.
He, um, he said, "All right, but I can't make this shit for no streaming, bro."
Okay?
I shot my shit in anamorphic lenses.
I got all the sound.
Like, I made it for the theaters.
He was like, "Yeah, but the theaters ain't nothing popping, bro.
Nobody's going to the theaters."
I was like, "Well, I don't know.
Then hold it."
But he said, "I can't hold it, bro.
Like, you know, it's business."
But he still, no, but he still say, "Okay, I'm gonna put you on 200 screens."
And you could go and get to, you know, and he did it.
You know what I mean?
So all my films has always go to the cinema first.
And if I have my way, every film I make will always start at a cinema.
Have you ever tried using those?
What's the Apple one, Jamie?
Those Apple AR goggles?
Apple Vision Pro?
Apple Vision Pro?
Yeah.
I heard watching movies on those is phenomenal.
Yes.
Okay.
But you have to also design it for that, too.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I mean, to get the full experience because, come on, you're going like this.
And some, there's been some artists who have been able to create stuff for that.
It's almost like, uh, I mean, I won't say it's like The Sphere.
Have you been to The Sphere?
Yes.
But only for a fight.
Right.
They had a UFC there.
It was amazing.
I love it there.
But Darren Aronofsky had did a movie made directly for The Sphere.
In fact, there's another movie they're doing.
They're doing another movie right now that they showed me a clip of that's
going to be made in The Sphere.
And it's actually very sports-based.
And so it's crazy.
And, of course, The Wizard of Oz.
I heard that's nuts.
Yeah.
I've seen that there.
You saw The Wizard of Oz?
Yes.
You know, it's a crazy new effects and they added a bunch of stuff to the movie.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
And it's fucking...
But it feels amazing anyway, right?
It's an incredible experience.
This is a new thing AMC has just shown recently and announced called Screen X.
What?
It's 270 degrees.
It's going to surround the audience in some way.
Well, that's how you get people to go back to the movie theater.
Yeah.
Give them something like this where they're like, "What?"
It's kind of like recut.
So it might be a fun way to go back and maybe see a movie you really liked.
Oh, like see Avatar in that.
Or Alien.
They got The Matrix like that now.
Yeah, that's Cosm.
That's kind of like The Sphere thing.
Oh.
This just sort of is announced.
It's only in two cities right now.
Wow.
There's a place...
I know there's a place in Dallas where they show UFC fights and...
Yeah, that's Cosm.
That's Cosm?
Yeah, that's where The Matrix thing...
That's nuts, man.
I love that he got the answers.
Yeah.
He's a genius.
He is.
But with the place in Dallas, The Cosm Place, like you're seated here and the
screen
is like 60 feet tall and it's right in front of you and you're watching the
fights as
if...
This is The Matrix.
Well, so this is The Matrix.
Yeah.
Yeah, they worked with the film company to sort of like remake it and add extra
stuff.
Oh, wow.
There's also a new screen I just saw.
I think it's going to be in Clearwater, Florida.
It's going to be the world's biggest screen.
See if you can show...
I'll show you the fight thing.
Yeah, show me fight scenes.
Like, people were watching the fights there and I was like, okay, that might
actually be
better than being there live.
Like, look how crazy the size of the screen is.
Right.
Like, look who you're watching.
Like, you're sitting right there.
I mean, that fight is gigantic.
It's huge.
Because the thing about going to see the fights live, look at how big that is.
You fall away.
Yeah, show that again.
Like, look at that.
Look how nuts that is.
Right.
That is nuts.
You don't get to see these camera angles at home either.
No.
Which is awesome.
Not like that.
Yeah.
Not like that.
I love this because this is giving me hope, bro.
Like, everything you just showed me is giving me hope for cinema.
Right.
This is like...
And this is like cheaper than buying tickets and this is better than any ticket
you could
ever buy for the fights.
Like, better than anything.
Better than my seat.
And I'm sitting cage-side.
How much a ticket like this would cost?
That's a good question.
They do sell tickets for this.
I don't know.
So, click on that one.
May 9th.
How much does that cost?
$100.
$40.
$100.
If you want to sit probably real close, you have $20 to get inside.
Okay.
General Emission is $20.
What is the front row?
Where's the screen?
The display's right there.
What are those?
Like, right there where it says two?
I don't know where you'd want to be.
$167.
How much?
$167?
$167.
That's a bargain.
That's a bargain.
Compared to how much it would cost if you actually went to see the fight.
Nice.
Okay.
And it's probably a better experience.
Plus, you get commentary.
You get to hear everything.
Right.
And you're right there.
And then, it's not just like being at home, which is great.
Because there's a bunch of people you're experiencing with.
So, it adds to the excitement and the energy.
Exactly.
That's the knock I was going to say with the Vision Pro.
It's still to right now, you're by yourself.
By yourself.
Which is kind of, for me, I'm a single guy in my apartment with a dog.
Perfect.
But, yeah, if you're at home with anybody, you're like, well, I can watch it.
Right.
Five of these.
Yeah, catch up to me later.
Like, could you watch it with a chick where you hold hands and you both have
Vision Pro and you both start at the same time?
I don't think you want to do it.
Three, two, one, go.
I don't think you want to do it.
That's funny.
That's me and my wife on a plane.
Oh, you do that?
Even on the way here, bro, what do we watch?
We watch, oh, uh, Sebastian.
How do you say Sebastian?
The last name is, he's a--
Maniscalco.
Yeah, thank you, bro.
Oh, the comedian.
Yeah, yeah.
We watch him.
He's funny, that guy's funny.
Hilarious.
He's funny, motherfucker, bro.
Very funny.
And so, yeah, so we do that every time, though.
But we watch him on the way.
So I don't want, she wouldn't want to see me laughing and she ain't laughing
yet.
So we hit the button at the same time.
And, uh, that guy's crazy, yo.
He's funny.
Yeah, that's the thing.
They should have, like, simultaneous viewing option.
Are you going to watch it with someone else?
Would you like to view it simultaneously?
And then have them sync up with each other?
One plane does that.
One plane does that.
What airline was that?
Qantas.
Oh, okay.
I think Qantas is up on it.
Well, they got those 16-hour flights.
They got to make things interesting.
Yeah, they got to sit.
Actually, it says watch with a friend.
Oh, that's smart.
Yeah, that's smart.
Yeah, it's interesting.
Like, what is the next level past AR with those goggles?
It's going to be an immersive experience where you're actually...
We had the people from Perplexity who were here earlier today, and we were
talking about
how people with AI and all this stuff, they're going to want more human
experiences.
Like, going to see a live concert or seeing, you know, a sporting event live.
I'm like, yeah, until it's completely immersive, and then it's like you're
playing a video game, but you're in World of Warcraft.
Right.
Or you're in Battlefield Earth or whatever game you're playing.
I think, yeah, I think for that form of entertainment, a video game, yes.
But I still think, because even, you know, it's more senses, bro.
It ain't just the sight and sound.
It's the smell.
Yeah, but what if they can recreate that?
Like, what if they get the technology where you can create a movie, but the
person who is watching the movie is standing on the street?
Like in the opening scene where those girls pick that dude up in that Saab
convertible?
Like, what if you're standing, you feel the street, and you watch the dude get
in the car?
I think that's amazing.
Right.
But you're saying at home by yourself?
Yeah.
Well, you'll be terrified in my film.
Yeah, of course.
But you'll be in it.
Yeah.
You'll be in it.
That'll be interesting.
I think that's coming, man.
I think that's coming.
Well, if that comes, reach out to me, and I'll write a script.
Right.
Then make sure that we fucking hit you with it right.
You're gonna have to capitalize on all the different things that can take place.
What do you think about that Saab?
Do you remember the Saab fucking 900?
Oh, yeah.
A friend of mine had one of those.
It was a cool car.
Yeah.
They were interesting looking.
Yeah.
Futuristic.
They were different than any other car.
That's why in the film, they were like, "What kind of car do you want?"
I was like, "Give me a Saab."
Yeah.
Did they still make them?
I don't think so.
No, I don't think they definitely don't make new ones.
Saabs?
Uh-oh, hold on.
Let's get there.
Hold on.
I don't know.
That's a good question.
I know they make Volvo still.
Yeah, I was in the Volvo.
I don't know if they still make Saabs.
Nah, bankrupt in 2011.
Damn.
Yeah, no more Saabs.
But the punchline for me was that this Saab, and I'll give you one spoiler of
the film,
as you finish the second half of it, there's no time.
So I removed the time from the film so you don't know what year you're in.
Mmm.
And that's why you'll see the Saab, but then you'll see when they're playing
their video game and shit.
Mm-hmm.
They're playing...
Oh, right.
With AR goggles.
And a glove that don't exist.
Yeah.
Right.
I thought that too.
When I was seeing a movie, I was like, "Is that real?"
Yeah, the idea is like...
I'm glad you brought that up.
I want that to happen.
I want to see one day I could play a basketball game like this.
Right, right, right.
That'd be dope, right?
That would be.
Yeah.
They're getting real close to stuff like that.
They're getting real close to stuff like that.
We have an AR game out there that you...
It's a zombie game.
And you put the headphones on, the headset on, and you run around and you have
an actual gun and you're shooting zombies.
Right, yeah.
Yeah.
And you're pointing it at it.
And it's like...
They're getting really close.
I'll show you something I discovered.
Shout out to this guy.
I think he's doing this all on his own.
I found him and tweeted at him one day, but he didn't answer.
Daniel Habib is his name.
He's got this company called True3D.
He's done this with two movies so far, and I think you have to be in the
theater to experience it.
But it's kind of exactly what we're talking about.
He converted a movie, I think Insidious, a scary movie.
Oh, that's a scary movie.
Yeah.
He's not showing you what, because he's being smart.
He's also developing it still.
And he also did it with Interstellar just recently.
Whoa.
I almost flew to New York just so I could go see it, because I was very curious.
This is cool.
It looks awesome.
Yeah, it looks cool.
So he adapted it to the Vision Pro?
Yeah, and these are just in Meta Quest headsets, I believe.
And you probably have to be at the theater, because I think that's where the
sound's coming from.
Oh, right, right, right.
As the user watching it, you get to decide how in-depth this becomes, because
if you want to see the people next to you,
you can sort of go to level two and still see your neighbor, or go to level
four and be fully in the room,
and you can't see anybody else, you can maybe just touch them, because you know
they're there.
I like how some people are jumping, and then there's some people that are dead
on the inside.
Well, and also, because these are jump scares, he has that built in, so you
know when a jump scare's coming,
or you don't know when a jump scare's coming.
Oh, interesting.
So you can either be super scared, or you can know and not be scared that, you
know, someone's gonna come from behind you.
Why would you pass up?
Maybe it's, this seems like it could fucking give you a heart attack.
Yeah, maybe it's people with weak hearts.
It could be too good.
Like, let me know, let me know when I'm gonna get freaked out.
And also, Dolby, I saw, you seen that, I saw Dolby made this thing, these
glasses, have you seen these Dolby glasses, bro?
No.
That, that, uh, that you can hear shit, bro.
Like, like surround sound with glasses on.
Dolby, yeah, I mean, I hope I don't not be feeling a secret.
What is it doing different?
Like, what do you mean you can hear things?
You can watch, see, and hear.
Yeah, and Dolby vision.
So it's surround sound, glasses.
Yeah.
And so the glasses, is it projecting it into your inner ear?
Like, how is it doing?
Does it plug into your ear?
No, it doesn't even plug into your ear.
So it's one of those things that sits above the ear on the outside, like
pressing against your skull?
Yeah, they kind of.
They have headphones like that, right?
I've seen that.
Yeah, I've seen some headphones that give you 12, 12.1.
Yeah, like earbuds, and they don't go in your ear.
They, like, sit on the skull.
Yeah, see if you can find those Dolby, those Dolby glasses.
I don't know if, I don't know if, I went to Dolby, uh, some months ago and they.
Is this a spoiler alert?
That's right, that's right.
I said, you can't edit this shit, huh?
We could, if we can't.
Yeah.
If you're not supposed to know.
I don't know if there's something in here that doesn't, it's showing some 3D
glasses they have, but it didn't say the sound is coming out of them.
I would imagine if Dolby's making him sound is involved.
It has to be, right?
Yeah.
Dolby Cinema.
Yeah.
Oh, it's 3D.
They're 3D glasses.
I don't know.
No, no, no, bro.
Listen, I put them on, bro.
You can hear shit.
Mmm.
So, did you put them on to watch a movie?
Like, what did you put them on to watch?
Yeah.
I put them on, like, they had a whole demo room.
I was looking at something, and it sounded like I was in the room with, it
sounded like I was in the movie theater, but I took the glasses off.
Oh, look, this is what it is.
So, it's showing you everything in 3D.
You need to have the glasses, I think, to get the test.
Oh.
And the sound is connected.
That's 2021.
I know.
So, this is five years old already.
Again, I don't, this might not be.
So, this is a Vision, but what about the Dolby Atmos?
Atmos is the sound.
Yeah.
Plus Dolby Vision HDR.
12, yep, 12.61.
What year is that?
Hmm.
Did I say what you did?
That's, that's, that's.
2024.
Whoa.
Oh, okay.
That's, that's different.
That's where you're, okay, that's where you're home.
That's, that's having your system.
But they got some shit with it.
It's in the glasses, bro.
Hmm.
Anyway.
Well, we're, we're in an interesting time when it comes to technology and all
this.
Yeah.
And entertainment.
The horror stuff and.
Yeah.
And where it's going.
I'm happy about it.
Are you?
Yeah.
It's interesting.
I mean, I know a lot of people are freaked out about AI.
There's a lot of that.
A lot of people freaked out about AI music.
A lot of people freaked out about AI replacing actors and their, their ability
to generate images
and video.
I, I, I, I, I believe AI to be a tool.
I'm from the hip hop generation.
Right.
So we sampling.
Mm-hmm.
A record.
And therefore it's a digital replication of the record.
It's not the record.
Right.
Right.
And especially when we sampling at 16 bit or 12 bit or some bit that's not even.
Where the, the, the computer or the AI or the, the chip has to fill in the
pieces.
This is why you get that sound you hear from hip hop.
So, so I always embraced, embraced it, the technology.
I also know that it's nothing like the real thing.
You know, I put on a, you know, even if, even if I put on a piece of vinyl and
put that needle
on it and play it.
Cause at my house I have it.
I got all types of setups.
Right.
But when we really want to have a good time, we just put on the fucking vinyl
and it sounds
so much better, different or.
It's got depth to it.
Exactly.
It crackles.
Exactly.
It's something else.
Yeah.
So it's nothing like the real thing, but in, in, in the, in between time, in
the meantime,
let's enjoy, you know, like you said, if you could, if I could make you feel
like you
in Hawaii and you don't have to leave your house.
Right.
Cool.
But if you could go to Hawaii.
Right, right, right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You know, I was trying to tell the AI industry or AI community that we got to
change the
A. It shouldn't be considered artificial.
It's digital intelligence.
Well, keep the A cause you can't, but, but don't change.
The A could be assisted, accumulated, depending on the situation.
Find the, find the A word that makes it describe what you're doing.
Like for instance, it's, right now it's assisting him.
Right.
This is an, it's an assist, it's assisting intelligence.
Right.
Artificial sounds cheap.
Yeah.
It's, bro.
You don't want artificial nothing.
Right.
If I, if you came to your girl and you proposed to her with some artificial
diamonds.
Right.
It ain't working.
Okay.
Girls don't even like real diamonds that are manmade.
Isn't that weird that is?
They have a hard time selling real diamonds that are made in a laboratory.
I don't, yeah.
Is that a real diamond?
It's a real diamond.
I mean, molecularly.
Yeah.
It's a real diamond.
Yeah.
It's just not created by the earth over time.
It's not created in a laboratory.
So molecularly.
But if you look at it, it's a real, I mean, it's not like a fake Ferrari.
It's a fucking diamond.
You know what I mean?
Like it doesn't have to do things.
Like if you, if you go to China and you buy a fake iPhone, who knows what the
fuck's in
there.
Right.
It won't work with Apple, won't work with the iTunes store or the Apple store.
But a diamond is just a fucking rock.
Like they can take that carbon and compress it and make an artificial diamond.
And ladies like, no, I don't want it.
Yeah.
I want a real one.
I'm going to stick with the ladies on that one.
Weird.
I'm going to stick with the ladies on it because I think the value of the
diamond is the time
that it took to become existence.
Unfortunately, that's not diamonds are harvested in a similar way as cobalt.
Oh, well, now you put it there.
Yeah.
That's why they call them blood diamonds.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
So if you get a diamond from a lab, no, there's no blood.
It's just a machine that's compressing carbon and it looks beautiful.
And I would, if I look, obviously I'm not a chick and I don't own any diamonds,
but if
I did, I'd want the lab diamond.
I'm like, give me that dope shit that some scientist figured out how to make.
Basically, you'll go vegan on the diamonds.
Yeah.
Because how big can they make them?
How big can they make a lab grown diamond?
And how do they even tell?
Like, how do you tell whether or not a diamond's a lab diamond?
Like, is there a way that they can test them?
Or is it just like provenance?
Like, you know, based on like it coming from De Beers or wherever.
But if there's a way that they could test them.
Bless you.
Bless you.
If there's a way that they could test them, then it's not real diamond.
Then it's not real.
Right, right, right.
Unless there's a way, maybe they're perfect in a way that doesn't exist in the
diamond world.
I don't know.
I'm guessing.
Completely guessing.
Look at the size of that fucking rock.
75 carat.
The largest ever grown.
Okay, so that's a fake, not a fake diamond.
A real diamond made in a lab that's 75 carats.
How much does that bitch cost?
42 carat diamond for $88,000.
Is that real?
Is that how much it costs?
That's how much it costs?
That's nothing.
I wouldn't be buying it from this website.
Oh.
BrigglensEarth.com.
Jamie, just give them your credit card.
Don't worry about it.
That's real.
You could tell.
Yeah, that might not be real.
That one might not be real.
But let's find out like what is a reputable site and how much is a reputable
lab grown diamond?
How much?
How much does that cost?
Largest faceted lab grown, $375,000.
Do you know how much money that would cost if that was an actual diamond from
the earth?
Yeah.
It'd probably be a hundred million dollars.
Exactly.
That's crazy.
Well, that's...
Well, that's...
Mmm.
How much would that cost?
Find out how much that would cost if it was a real...
I mean, is there even a real diamond that exists that big?
I...
Yeah, this one...
But $375,000?
Holy shit.
What?
It weighed...
The biggest one weighed 3,100 carats.
Whoa.
When it was found in 1905.
That's a real one.
Yeah.
Whoa.
And it was cut into smaller ones.
Look at that.
Holy fuck.
That's what I'm saying.
It took a long time.
The girl's like...
Anyway, that one.
Give me that one.
Jeez.
How old...
Ask my man perplexity.
How old is that diamond?
Oh my god.
It has to be millions and billions of years old.
Let's see what is...
What does it say here?
Does it say the age of it?
There you go.
There you go.
That's nuts.
1.18 billion years old.
When it reached the surface.
Oh my god.
You see what I'm saying?
Now how you gonna...
How you gonna replicate that?
You can if you think so.
With a machine.
With a machine.
Yeah, it's better.
Yeah, it's better.
Um...
So like if you buy a lab grown diamond versus a diamond that came from the
earth, how can
they tell the difference?
Find that out.
Can you discern?
Put this into perplexity.
How do you discern between a lab grown diamond and a diamond that came from the
earth?
Whether or not...
How do you discern?
Make a girl smell it.
They get up on a tub like...
I don't smell blood.
Yeah, men can't tell but women can.
Their hair in the back of their neck sticks out.
I don't like it.
Seems fake.
It says you can't.
You can't.
It says you can.
I mean, it's specialized scanners, which almost means in...
Hold on.
Let me read that to the audience.
It says...
Visual appearance is the same.
Lab grown and natural diamonds have the same sparkle, hardness, and basic
optical properties,
so they look identical in jewelry.
Naked eye tests don't work.
Standard home tricks, fog test, scratch test, only distinguish diamond from non-diamond,
not lab versus natural.
Standard diamond testers don't help.
Thermal electric testers will say diamond for both lab grown and natural stone.
And natural stones, because their physical properties are essentially the same.
In other words, you cannot reliably discern the origin on your own just by
looking at it or using a simple tester.
A jeweler, how do they do it?
Let's see.
What does it say here?
They literally...
It seems like they write the word lab grown that you can see under a microscope
or something.
Oh.
Amazing.
Many lab grown diamonds are inscribed.
Why would you inscribe it?
Because you're an asshole.
Okay.
I don't know.
Inclusions of growth features.
If you make better, if you're like the best at it, if you're the Rolex of
making lab grown diamonds so people can't copy yours, maybe.
Well, no, no.
Here goes something that's interesting.
It says lab grown HP, HT, and CBD diamonds can show characteristic of metallic
inclusions and geometric patterns or growth striations that differ from most
natural diamonds.
But this is subtle and not always present.
But there's a chance to dance, right?
Yeah, there's a chance.
Natural diamonds tend to have more irregular geologic looking inclusions.
Fluorescence patterns under UV, differences in how the stone fluoresces under
short wave and long wave UV light can hint at lab grown versus natural, but
interpretation requires training and comparison.
Okay.
Those are hints.
But it says hints not guarantees and many stones look ambiguous without proper
instruments.
Okay.
Hmm.
So, she got to be, she got to complain at the end of the day, right?
She's got to bring it to a university.
Yeah.
Test this.
Yeah.
Because she has to be, she's dissatisfied.
She has to, she really has to complain.
Isn't it interesting though that it's the same thing, but some women want it to
be from the earth and not from a lab, even though it's the same thing.
It's like if they could make you a banana and it tasted like a banana, it had
all the vitamins of a banana, it looked like a banana, but it wasn't grown on a
banana tree.
It just came out of a banana lab.
Would you be upset if somebody gave you the fake banana if it's exactly the
same?
Hmm.
That's a good question.
Weird.
Well, well.
Bananas aren't, there's no status attached to a banana.
Right, exactly.
It's just the food that we eat, but.
Yeah.
What about GMO?
Aren't we anti-GMO?
Yeah, but is it genetically modified if it's just a replica of a banana?
I mean, a banana is probably a bad thing because you're putting it in your body.
Right.
But if it's something that is a comp, like.
Like, you know, here's a good one.
Okay.
Full fur versus a real fur.
Right.
Why would you complain if I came home with a full mink?
Because some women want the actual animal to die so they can wear it.
I want something to suffer in the snow and a trap around its neck.
I don't know.
It's weird.
What movie was that?
The Revenant, right?
Yeah.
That was a good one.
Tom Hardy, Leonardo.
Yeah.
It was good because it also let us, you know, I love the idea that there was a
business, sadly,
and motherfuckers going looking for animals to kill the brain back and make a
jacket.
Yeah, still is.
Still is.
Still is.
You know, there's a company in China that makes Rolexes exact to a real Rolex,
but it's not a real Rolex.
They, because of 3D printing now, because of, they can scan every individual
part that a Rolex,
so they buy a Rolex and then recreate exactly to the same type of steel that
they use, the same
quartz for the, whatever the fuck is the term.
The face, the bend.
What is the term I'm looking for?
The lens?
It's not the lens.
What is it called?
Bezel?
No, no, no.
The glass part that's in the front.
God, how can I forget that?
Is it called the face?
No.
I forget what it's called.
How?
It's one of those brain farts where my brain is like just not remembering what
it means.
The watch crystals?
I'll say.
The crystal.
That's it.
Just a crystal.
Jesus.
But they take it and they recreate everything with the exact same materials,
but it's like
500 bucks as opposed to 11,000.
Right, right.
But it is exact.
Right.
Like you bring it to a watch person and it'll take them hours to figure out
whether or not
this is an actual Rolex or not.
They have to use microscopes.
They have to get up in there and look at the finish and the way the hands are
made.
So would you?
They're getting better and better and better at it.
Would you wear it?
Would you wear it?
Or?
Yeah, I would wear it.
I mean, I wouldn't because I have a real one.
But if I didn't have a real one, I would wear it.
But that's...
See, now...
You know who has a fake one?
Usyk.
The heavyweight champion of the world.
Alexander Usyk wears a fake Rolex.
He thinks it's hilarious.
You know what?
That's my big question.
Like I was just talking about the AI or talking about whatever it is.
I think anything is good until the real thing shows up.
You know, I think when the real thing shows up, it's going to be real.
And it's something about the real thing.
Whatever that is.
Whatever that thing is.
Right.
That's just like, it ain't going to never not be real.
Right.
You know what I mean?
There's something about like a real Rolex.
It comes from the company Rolex.
It's been making watches for a hundred years.
And it's...
They figured out the technology.
They figured out how to...
You know, because these...
Like a Rolex is an automatic watch.
So it's got...
It's moving on...
Like this is an Omega.
And this watch is automatic too.
So this is moving on...
It's working on my movement.
Right.
So my movement winds it.
Wow.
So every time I move my arm, it winds it up in the second hand.
Wow.
And it's incredibly precise.
Right.
Accurate within like a couple seconds a day.
Right.
And somebody had to figure that out.
Right.
And they figured it out a long fucking time ago.
A long time ago.
These guys figured out how to make the perfect amount of spring tension.
And these little tiny gears that move around in there.
Right.
And how long...
How long does it last?
How long would it stay charged for?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Like...
I don't have too much...
I do got a couple of Rolexes, but...
I don't know.
As you see...
Oh wow.
They'll last for decades and decades.
Right.
I mean you could buy...
There's a place called Bob's Watches online.
You could buy like a 1967 Rolex.
Okay.
And it still works perfectly.
Still working.
Okay.
They last forever.
And sometimes they need service.
And all that means is like they need to clean them out.
And maybe they replace a spring or some shit.
Right.
But then it's back to work.
I've seen one in...
Well...
For the ones that's making in China.
You know what I mean?
That's...
You know...
And the guys...
They call them super clones.
Yeah.
The super cloners.
And you can't afford a real one.
And you want to be cool with a fake one.
Baller on a budget.
Baller on a budget.
We're not knocking that.
But...
I saw one that my wife wanted.
She didn't get it.
I told her to get it.
She thought she'd get it somewhere else.
In Brussels.
Right?
They had...
Have you ever seen an orange Rolex?
No.
Exactly, bro.
They had it on display for sale.
And she never seen it either.
I'm not into watches.
But she's kind of getting there.
Into it.
So she...
And we was kind of moving fast and shit.
And she was like...
You know, she saw it and she wanted it.
I said, "Well, go ahead and get it."
I'll wait.
I said, "No, we can move.
I'll get it somewhere else."
You can't get it nowhere else.
You only could get it from that one location in Brussels.
Oh, so Rolex makes it specifically just for them?
Yeah.
Well, there's some companies that customize watches.
That you could buy where they take a regular Rolex and they customize it.
And the problem with that is, even though it's expensive, it's not worth as
much to some people
because they've altered it.
Right.
This is not altered, though.
Oh, it comes only from Rolex.
Only from Rolex.
And they only sell it.
They only sell it there.
Oh, wow.
You know what I mean?
Take a...
See if you can find out one.
People love exclusivity.
Hall of Time in Brussels.
Rolex Explorer II, the primary model featuring a single bright orange 24-hour
hand.
Often found in authorized dealers like Hall of Time in Brussels.
Wow.
Interesting.
So I gotta take her all the way back to Brussels to get it.
Oh.
Oh, it's so pretty, though.
I don't know which one of them.
I bet you could buy it online.
I think it's...
Could you buy it online?
You probably have to pay a premium.
Look at that.
$11,000.
You could buy it online.
$210,000.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
That seems more like it right there.
Yeah.
$210,000.
Maybe I won't be going back to Brussels.
Jeez.
Jeez.
It's just crazy how much cheaper those superclones are that look exactly the
same.
I bet you after this podcast a superclone are going to say he's going to make
those now.
See if you can find one of those superclone sites from China.
Because what they're doing is just taking advantage of the fact that, like,
everybody wants these status symbols.
And that's what a lot of it is.
You know, it's like...
So here it is.
What is this company called?
Superluxuryreps.com.
Which one do you want?
Um...
Let's go with the...
Scroll up a little bit, please.
Right there.
The Daytona.
That's the classic.
Black dial Daytona.
That's a...
Ooh!
Look at that blue one right there to the right.
The one...
Yeah!
What the fucker?
Click on that.
$1,600 bucks.
Sounds like a bar, right?
Yeah.
Boy, that would be so much more money.
Look how pretty that is.
That looks perfect.
So no one would ever know.
So for $1,600 bucks, no one is ever going to fucking know.
There's a pretty good chance that's a picture of a real one, too.
Good point.
Good point.
Good point.
Damn, Jamie's taking levels ahead.
I like that.
I like that.
That's true.
They might be fucking with you.
Boom!
It ain't like it was in the picture.
Damn.
The Whopper is not the size it is on the commercial.
That looks so good, though.
It's a sticker.
Okay.
So luxury...
Super luxury reps.
Let's put this into a search.
Super luxury reps reviews.
See, how good are the watches from super luxury reps?
That's a fake one?
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Look at that.
Super clone Datejust 36 millimeter floral dial.
A thousand bucks.
Trustpilot.
It's all good.
It's fine.
Oh, Trustpilot.
That's a good guy, right?
That's crazy.
They just stuck that on there.
They stuck that.
I mean, come on.
This is in China.
WhatsApp us.
Yeah, this is in China.
Video proof.
Every website.
Show me video proof.
Oh, how about...
Okay.
Go to Richard Millet.
Because those watches are like a million bucks.
Video proof of one right here.
Oh, video proof.
Show me the video proof.
Someone's opening it.
On a vertical screen.
Oh, so they're getting very close to it.
Oh, yeah.
I guess maybe they're trying to show the microscope.
Yeah.
So you're seeing all the action and all the movement.
So Richard Millet watch, click on those, please.
Because that's like a million dollar watch.
Those watches are insanely expensive.
Not from here.
How much did it cost?
1,600 or so.
1,400 bucks.
Yeah.
So 1,400 bucks or...
A million dollars.
Half a million.
Right.
Learn where to shop.
You know what I just learned from watching that thing though?
What?
The other one you had with the moving gears, it reminded me of the quantum
computer.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Something in my brain is bugged out, but...
Those things are weird.
But I saw...
I saw...
I saw...
The science of a quantum computer there.
Right.
All that stuff moving.
Yeah, because it takes...
All those gears.
It takes that.
Well, the quantum computers are so crazy because all that shit is all cooling.
Right.
And the actual computer is like the size of a...
Like a Triscuit.
Right.
You kind of...
You think about the human heart, right?
It's...
It's...
It's doing a lot of fucking work.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's doing...
And it's...
Do you know it's not really a pump?
That's what they're saying now.
Yeah.
It's like a cycle.
It's like...
A vortex.
Yeah.
But it's...
I used to think of it as a pump.
But it makes sense.
Right?
The quantum computer, the brain, all these things...
It's almost like our biology is teaching...
Science is now catching up to the science of our biology...
And now finding a way to mechanically emulate our biology.
Yeah.
So, what superluxuryreps.com is...
They sell...
Perplexity says they sell supercloned luxury watches...
Emphasizing that their pieces mirror the design, weight, and performance of
genuine models.
They present themselves as a premium alternative to cheap replicas...
Focusing on workmanship, durability...
We just did an ad for these people.
We just...
We basically just gave them an ad.
I guarantee you some fakers are gonna go there.
You're not thinking you're buying the real thing here and you shouldn't.
Right.
That's just the note.
But the thing is, it's like it mirrors the performance.
It looks exactly the same.
That's my point.
It's like, why does a Rolex cost that much money then?
If they can make it for $1400 bucks, why is it...
Like, how much does a Daytona cost if you bought it retail?
Like, what is a Rolex...
Let's take a guess.
I gotta imagine it's $15,000.
I gotta imagine it's at least 10 times more.
Like, what is a Rolex Daytona cost?
So you're saying that the material is all the same.
It's the same.
But...
Yeah.
But they're stealing the idea.
Yes.
They're stealing everything.
They're stealing the design, the idea.
So you're paying the $15,000, you're paying for the idea, the design, and
everything.
Not just the material.
So $30,000.
So it's more than $10,000.
Look at that.
Yeah.
And so that black one, the black-faced one, is exactly like the one that they
had there.
Yeah.
White.
That's pretty...
But you can sell that, though.
The thing is, that comes with paperwork, and you can sell it probably for even
more than
$30,000 afterwards.
That's the difference.
That's the difference, right?
Yeah.
It can appreciate and not depreciate.
And it has serial numbers and paperwork and all that.
It's an actual investment.
I'm going to take a moment to, once again, this is the RZA on the Joe Rogan
Experience.
You like when I do this?
Yes, please.
Okay.
Thanks.
This is the RZA on the Joe Rogan Experience.
I have a new film coming out.
May 1st in theaters.
It's called One Spoon of Chocolate.
Quentin Tarantino presents the RZA's One Spoon of Chocolate in theaters
everywhere.
May 1st.
It follows the story of an ex-military convict trying to find a better way in
life.
Ends up in a small town and shit goes bananas.
Chaos ensues.
Dun-dun-dun.
Action-packed.
Bone-shattering.
And available in streaming in maybe a month or so.
Yeah.
Maybe a month or so.
Maybe 45 days.
Go see it in the movie theaters.
And you know what?
Go to the theaters, yo.
You know how come?
Because, tell me if you agree with this.
I don't care where you get popcorn from anywhere else.
I like Disneyland.
I like the amusement parks.
But no popcorn touches movie theater popcorn.
They know what they're doing.
They got something going on there.
But whatever that butter is, what is that shit?
That stuff, when you go to the machine, you press the button?
Oh, I don't know what that is.
What's in there?
I think it's vegan.
It can't be good for you.
It can't be good.
It can't be good for you.
Well, at the Alamo Draft House, they use real butter?
Oh, they use real butter.
Yeah, at the Alamo Draft House.
You ever been to Sinopolis?
Yes.
Yes.
Sinopolis is awesome.
That's the joint, right?
Oh, they have everything there.
Is that a date night?
Yeah, man.
Beautiful seats.
Like, laying back.
Yeah.
They have waiters and waitresses.
Do you and the wife like going to see movies?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
What's your favorite theater?
I love Sinopolis.
That's my favorite.
Yeah.
That's the place.
Because the seats are the best.
They recline.
They're perfect.
Yeah.
The space is good.
They know what they're doing.
Plus, it costs a little bit more to go there.
So, like, no one's on their phone making noises.
People aren't talking.
You know what I mean?
I agree.
And the crazy thing I will say, though, Sinopolis is my favorite theater as
well for a date night with my wife.
But I strongly believe, that's from my experience, that it was the Alamo Draft
House that pioneered that whole concept.
Oh, yeah.
Of food.
Yeah, bro.
I remember coming out here.
I don't know.
It might have been 2004 or something.
Like, it was just one Alamo Draft House, I think.
Guys had it on.
On 6th Street.
On 6th Street.
Exactly.
That's my building now.
Yeah.
I bought that place.
That's the Ritz.
Bro.
That's my school, bro.
Yeah, that's the Ritz.
I'm saying, that's why I used to come down to the QT.
I mean, that's my film college.
Yeah.
I've seen so many movies there.
I've seen about six movies in one day.
Tarantino screened Death Proof there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They had so many movies out of that place.
That place was everything, man.
It used to be a rock and roll club.
It was, at one point in time, it was a pool hall.
Right.
It's been a bunch of different things.
Well, you own my college now.
Yeah.
It's a dope spot, too.
It's a perfect place.
And it's, we still have the original marquee because it's all the historical
society.
Right, right.
So it's a building from 1927.
You got fried pickles in there?
Because, hey.
We don't sell food.
No.
No food.
No food.
No food stores.
There's a pizza joint on one side, a Mexican joint on the other side.
Okay.
Just plain food.
You don't want to be eaten while you're laughing.
We have one thing.
We sell jokes.
Nice, nice.
Jokes and drinks.
That's it.
I got to pop in and who's your next guest?
Oh, we always, I mean, I do shows there every Tuesday and Wednesday.
And every weekend we have national headliners that are there.
I don't even know who's there this weekend.
Who's there this weekend, John?
I'm checking.
I'm checking.
But it's, you know, it's set up with two rooms, just like the Alamo was.
There was two theaters there.
Right, yeah.
So we have two rooms.
We have a small room that seats like 110 people.
Nice.
And then the big room, it's like 250 people.
Nice, nice.
And it's set up perfect.
We had it all, like the ceilings lowered and everything tightened up and set up.
The mothership.
Oh.
Comedy mothership.
Rich Voss.
Rich Voss!
My boy.
My boy Rich.
He's awesome.
The RZA.
I'm glad we did it this time without Donnell.
Exactly.
Sorry, Donnell.
I love you to death, but it was better without you.
Better without you.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Indian gave you.
Yeah.
I got something coming to you, kid.
Thank you.
A spoonful of chocolate out everywhere.
Everywhere.
May 1st.
May 1st.
All movie theaters.
See it in the movie theater first.
That's definitely where you want to see it.
You want to have that experience with a bunch of other people.
And thank you brother. It was always good to see you and Wu-Tang forever Wu-Tang
forever rock and roll Hall of Fame bong bong here we come
Here we go. All right. Bye everybody