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Luis J. Gomez is a comedian, writer, and producer. He co-hosts “Legion of Skanks,” “The Regz,” “Story Warz,” and “Real Ass Podcast.” His new book, “Knives & Spoons: A Memoir,” is available now. https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Knives-Spoons/Luis-J-Gomez/9798895651025 https://www.youtube.com/@LuisJGomezComedy https://www.luisofskanks.com
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The Joe Rogan experience
Yeah, that'll do it. It's just that one you think I'll just have one. It was
nice
It's just I was drinking too much because
You know owning a club there all the time, you know how much everybody
It's like you want a shot. You want a drink? Yeah, I can imagine when I'm at
your club
I get blackout drunk every time like an actual problem like I walk down the
stairs. I'm like what the fuck just happened
I drink so much at the mothership. Austin in general. Are we on? Yeah, the
problem is Shane. Oh, yeah
He's an animal. I don't know how he does it. I did the Bridgestone Arena with
him on Friday night
I mean first of all just insane like 20,000 people right fucking nuts Saturday
night
I did 95 people at the dojo of comedy is that the first time you did a big one
in the round in the round
Yeah, round is like oddly intimate isn't it because everyone's facing each
other
Yeah, you can cool. It feels like it's a club around you on the bottom
You kind of like it's so funny cuz people get like so in their head. They're
like dude
It's all these people. It's crazy. I'm like I performed you half sold-out
comedy clubs
You know much more nerve-wracking it is to make eye contact with your fans that
are disappointed that they're in a half sold-out room
The 20,000 people that are just there to be like fucking shine
It's one of those things you just do it a couple of times and you get it gets
normal. Yeah, like all things
I'm sure yeah, like all that's more fun, dude
It is very fun. Oh, it's so much more fun. It's very fun
I would I would just so you guys know I would way rather perform to 20,000
people than a hundred
I just want you to know that I don't know if it's a unique idea, but
Yeah, hundreds good too though cuz a hundred really shows you if your bits are
bullshit
Yeah, you know a hundred shows you the weak links and in bits you see them
checking their phone
No, it's in you feel it. Yeah, you feel like you're delivering them horseshit
You know you feel like you're not appreciating what you're saying. Yeah, you
know, I mean, of course, and I think it's also like
It's such a spectacle when you go to like an arena where it's like people are
like so lit and pumped to just like be there
They're so happy. I know yeah, I don't know how Sabrina Carpenter just came up
in my feed from Coachella
little hot child and
She's like this all my algorithm is that was Sabrina Carpenter daughter loves
her. I'm sure yeah
my girlfriend loves her and
She's got some good jams that espresso song. That's a really good song. Yeah,
manchild. She's got some song my shit, dude
It's become my shit. I never heard any of her music before this past week
But it's the Coachella stuff has all been showing up and like I'm watching
these girls watch Sabrina Carpenter
They're so happy so happy. They're like nothing. Yeah, like they're like
Just they're like just having the best moment of their life you 16 year old
girls
Like that's why I like people got a chill on things that they think suck
because it's just not for you, man
And that's okay. Yeah, that's okay. Like
Spending all your time
Dwelling on things that aren't for you is so crazy. It's a crazy thing
Culture that's what it is like the internet and social media became a thing
where we gave everyone a voice everyone has to have an opinion
Yeah, nobody wants to admit they're wrong right and they have to have a hot
take everything that happens within minutes
Yep, not even a moment to let me reflect. Let me just do a little bit of
research
Let me just look up a couple facts
They just jump into whatever their opinion is and that's the same thing when it
comes to like, you know
Entertainment and you know all you did you know better than anyone? I was I was
talking to Jamie before like you and Tony have become so big
that it's become like
Like it's like culture. It's not even like like I know you guys, you know what
I'm saying?
So it's like it's but it's like when I've removed myself from it
It's like you guys are as big as Sabrina Carpenter like having a conversation
about Joe Rogan going to the White House or Sabrina Carpenter at Coachella
That's trending shit
You know what I'm saying and people feel like they have to come out and just
give their opinion on it right away
If you don't like it don't like it, but that's also like if you don't want
people to have their opinions on you
Don't go to the White House
That's a great point, you know, like I don't fault them for getting
You know, whatever at whatever hot take getting mad at me for whatever reason
go ahead. Yeah, that's that's your thing
You're you're allowed to you're supposed to like if you're a comic to you're
supposed to shit on people if you think they're doing something stupid
Yeah, do you get offended what a comic shit on you? No, never. No, I mean, I'm
in the I'm in this weird
Zeitgeist thing I don't get offended some of them
I think it's lame because I think I know them like I'm friends with them, right?
And they're like using me to get clout like if you really had a problem with me,
you could just text me
Yeah, you know if you really
Felt like I was an anti-vaxxer and I was endangering people's lives I can text
me bro. You know me. Yeah, it's weird
It's weird when people do that and maybe they feel like an obligation even
though they know you to speak publicly
There's a lot of people that feel like they they have to use their voice
Like when something is wrong, they have to come out and say it which
It's also boredom. They just stand the inclination
I understand the inclination and that people will tell you that that you need
to use your voice and if you feel like you need to use your voice
Okay
But what I'm saying is there's far too many people out there dwelling on things.
They do not like
Versus things they like and this life is fucking short. Mm-hmm. It does. I am
58 years old. I'm almost 59. That's dead
That's old as fuck got 20 years best-case scenario, right? If everything goes
great
And what are those 20 years like I mean, I'm holding it together
Thanks to ways to well and and my obsessive need to work out but other than
that man, I feel it
I feel it's slipping away. It's gonna. It's crazy. I'm 44. I just turned 44 a
couple weeks ago and like
Best-case scenario like absolute best-case scenario midlife midlife. Yeah, that's
my aunt has never worked out a day in her life
She's 89 years old just a fat old Italian lady. Yeah, whatever she wants to
move it might be dude
Why am I so obsessed with trying to get in shape and eating right and doing all
this other stuff?
My fat aunt just does whatever she wants and she's an old Italian lady. She's
just gonna she's she's as
Young as I've ever remembered her. She's so with it. It's so funny to me
I've vacationed in Italy a bunch of times and I've gone to these little small
towns
There's always like a really nice restaurant this little small town
You have to take like a van up into the hills and you're on like a cliffside
with like no guardrail you get to these places and
You see these people having these like three and a half hour dinners
Everyone's relaxed. They're all laughing their families around you know and
Four generations is a hundred and seventy year old but no one's all dressed out.
Yeah, they're not all freaked out like Americans are
They're also not fat
Yeah, these thin people there and they're eating bread. They're eating bread
and pasta and fucking gelato and
Cigarettes and they live to be a hundred my favorite place to visit Italy
I brought my son for a father-son trip there years ago. Then I just brought my
whole family last year. We went to Venice and Rome and
Yeah, dude, I and I have like a gluten intolerance like if I eat a sandwich
I'm just gonna you'll see it in my face like all I did was eat pasta bread
Gelato the whole time the whole time and you were fine. I lost five pounds
For a week. I lost five fucking pounds people are like dude. It's the walking.
I was like, it's not the walking
Does not lose fucking you don't lose weight from walking if you're a person who
actively exercises we are being poisoned
Yeah, 100% and the you know, RFK juniors and working really hard to try to stop
a lot of what is fucking with us with our diet in America
God the resistance is crazy. Yeah
People decide what side they're on and they go. I don't care how good it might
be
Fuck you. You're part of Trump's cabinet. It's a little of that
But what I'm talking about is the resistance from corporations. Oh, yeah
I'm sure and the effect that they have on policy and then the reality of
economics like here was a big one like he had to
He had to pass
So there's this thing you know glyphosate is no. Okay, so it's a an herbicide
that they spray on plants and
It's super bad for you. It's super bad for you
It's banned in a lot of countries, but it's used ubiquitously in the United
States and
There's some extraordinary number of people always just have a glyphosate on
the wheat. Is this what they're spraying on the wheat?
Exactly. So they spray it on the wheat as a desiccator
So they sprayed on the wheat after the wheat has already been harvested to keep
it from growing mold
Hmm, which is crazy. They're gonna spray poison to make sure that life doesn't
grow on your wheat
That's really what's going on. It's like like mold is a type of life
Yeah, and they want to make sure it doesn't grow on this wheat that they're
gonna sell you so they spray poison
So RFK jr. Was trying really hard to stop that but Trump essentially said that
if they passed
This ban on glyphosate and they forced all these farmers to stop moving glyphosate
it would destroy
The farm market in America. It would destroy it
Like 90 something percent of these people use glyphosate
Well, and you're like that's because they have to like it. It's it preserves it
essentially so they can keep it longer and for wheat
And and then corn actually has like roundup ready corn so you could spray it on
the corn it survives this shit
You know, so I get kills all the weeds around it, but the corn survives look at
this nuclear corn
It's bizarre and what's crazy is our
Whole system depends on it like we've got a bad system and the solution is
Keep the bad system for now because if we don't if we don't feed people poison
then we'll go under
It's so crazy and that's how that's what it is in America. Yeah, that's why
when you go to Italy you get that
Italian flour which is heirloom wheat so you know Maynard from tool
He explained this to me because he owns restaurants and he said that when you're
getting wheat from America
It's like got a higher
Yield per acre because it's like more gluten dense. It has more
Complex glutens in it and your body just goes whoa like this is a lot
You know that feeling that like whoa because you're essentially eating glue
right when you eat pasta that you have it in Italy or I'm not
Saying it doesn't have calories, but there's a difference in the way it feels
when it goes in your body
There's not a resistance. It feels like food when I become a glutton and I eat
like a whole pizza in America
If it's not at a good spot that you know use the Italian wheat, I feel like I
fucking poison myself. I literally feel
um, I mean almost like a hangover a weird
Like you feel it like in your veins. So I don't know if that's the complex glutens.
I don't know if that's glyphosate
I think the glyphosate thing is probably dangerous, but yet also possibly
overstated
So it seems like the the very low levels of glyphosate our body can tolerate it
But the real question is like why are we fucking tolerating it?
Like why is that there?
Yeah, because there's people that think that that's what you're reacting to
when you're eating wheat
That you're reacting to your but your body's just like what is this?
I don't like this fucking herbicide
Well, it's also happened as I got older. I don't even know what it was like
I just I never really had an issue with like pizza pasta wheat anything when I
was a kid
I could eat a peanut butter jelly sandwich
That's my mid-20s. It just hit me in a different way
And I don't actually I don't know if you can develop a gluten intolerance or a
gluten allergy
Happens to a lot of people as they get older. I wonder what that is
I wonder if that's just your body's just like e-fucking-nuff dude. Yeah, your
body just gives up on it
It's like but when you were young it's running more efficiently just naturally
you're young you're full of hormones your body the cells are replicating
perfectly everything
Everything's great and yeah, I think your body could just burn it off like that's
why hangovers weren't as bad when I was 20 either
No, yeah hangovers were no big deal. Just have some water the next day and you'll
be good
Yeah, it was not that bad dude hangovers if I came over at 58
I'm like what are you trying to die early you fucking idiot?
That's what I'm saying about Shane at the the stadium or the arena before it's
like he's we get there and I wasn't even drinking
I stopped drinking
um, you know regularly here and there, but I I was just
The best shape and the best mental state i've ever been in my life was when i'm
completely sober completely sober eating healthy exercising every day
That right there is the best. It's the best version of everybody. It's not a
unique thing to myself, right?
But shane. I was like, you know, he's fucking shane. He's like come on. You
gotta have a drink
Yeah, so I was like started drinking whiskey the best version of shane is 11
bud lights
After 11, he's just unstoppable. Yeah, he's a jolly drunk. That's why I don't
know how he does it
I don't know if I could have done it for more than two three nights in a row. I
would die. You ever smoke weed with a rapper?
It's the same shit. It's like people get used to things. Yeah, you know, try
smoking weed with wizz khalifah
Wizz khalifah should try to smoke weed with me. Really? Are you kidding me? Are
you really calling him out?
I used to be bringing on wizz khalifah
I used to be I mean, I'm talking about an all day every day get up in the
morning just to get going five dabs
like I like real deal pothead blunt to the head
I smoked one to the head a week ago right before I trained and
My my sparring partner was like do you smell like weed?
It was like I could never in a million years, but it's just I'm so used to it
that
Yeah, it becomes a normal state. Well, I'm sure jiu-jitsu everyone smokes weed
before a lot of people smoke
It's a dirty secret of jiu-jitsu. Yeah, a lot of people smoke weed before jiu-jitsu.
What is wizz doing up the nose nose dab?
Yeah, oh, no, you don't need to do that. Why would you do that was a new thing
that dude's jacked?
You ever see what wizz looks like? Yeah
He got really into muay thai like heavily and so he brings the guy with him
everywhere. He goes and hits pads
He's a fucking rip dude. I mean like a 10-pack. It's crazy. He looks fucking
great
And his technique looks pretty solid just gets high kick shit. How fun is that
what a life?
Well, there's a thing about when you're high you feel your muscles more like
you feel like the little fibers
Yeah, you know instead of it being a blunt thing. It's like you have access to
all the fibers. Yeah, and it's also you like
Jiu-jitsu specifically you you get into like a flow state where you close your
eyes and you're just fucking feeling things
And it's like I think that can actually help it. I think it's a performance
enhancer. I really do
I always felt like my jiu-jitsu game was 10% better if I was high. Really? Yeah,
no bullshit. Yeah
I've really felt that I think Eddie would agree with that too. I think a lot of
people agree with that. Yeah, you know
I think they're a comedy. It's like it's it can it can be they can I think you're
getting high every day
And then if you switch it up then it's a performance enhancer like being right
now being completely sober
Like I feel like I'm on Adderall like I feel like I'm completely locked in a
different way
Whereas like you and then I'll stop smoking weed for six months and I'll go
back to it
I'm like, oh, I've never been more creative. It's just I think it's just
changing your mindset and whatever way you can do that
Yeah, that's why people are so locked in and they're like
Having the same opinions their entire lives. It's like somebody called me out
on twitter today
They're like dude, you flip-flop constantly on things. I was like, you mean i've
grown
Yeah, you've been watching me for 15 years on podcasts. I'm now listen flip-flop
I'm captain flip-flop and then I just don't think you should be married to your
ideas
I think the real problem is once you say something and then you have to defend
it
And then once you find out that it's wrong
You you fucking panic and then you double down and then you try to defend it in
some weird fucking
circular logic way
And you'll get there you'll probably get some smart enough guys
We'll just figure out a way to ask backwards their logic
But everyone's in a while it's so nice to go. Oh, dude. I was completely wrong
about that
See that you win any argument with a girl in this world the world that you and
I are in we have conversations publicly
Right, and that's what's something that a lot of people don't do
So if you have conversations publicly then the whole world can essentially go
no
You're wrong. Yeah, you know, which is very valuable very valuable for being
able being able to formulate opinions
Most people don't fucking have that dude
So most people they just like if they're wrong about something they've said it
publicly and shame people
You know, you better do this because of that and this and they're wrong
Once they find out they're wrong they fucking panic and there's not much you
can do about it
Like you're just wrong. Yeah, and the only thing you could do if you want to
keep any credibility and say
Say this is what I thought and this is why I thought it but I don't think that
anymore
And I was wrong. Yeah, I fucked that up. But this new information
I want you to have too. Yeah, because this is what I'm gonna tell you why I
thought what I thought and why it changed
Yeah, I mean I'll be able to do that. I think it's just a weird thing in
society people will not they will
They want to pretend they're smarter than they are. You know, that's the thing
man
Everybody wants to pretend they're fucking smarter than they are. We're all
talking monkeys. We're idiots all of us
Every fucking person alive is a talking monkey
So the internet is the best and the worst thing that's ever happened because
now all the monkeys can scream
Everybody can get mad everybody can complain
But it's also great and you have time to reflect you said so what would happen
if something would happen, right?
Whatever it is some big event, right and it happens on friday
Like I don't have I got to sit on this until monday. I'll talk to my my wife or
some friends at home
But it's like until I get to work on monday. I can't
Spout these ideas in my opinions and you kind of reflect on it
You sit on you're on the toilet taking a shit thinking about things. We don't
have that anymore
It's just all distraction constantly
And it's like just I mean the amount like I the only time I ever like reflect
is if i'm working out or i'm sitting in the steam room
Right by yourself got to put the phone away
You literally can't do anything right, but even you're taking a shit dude back
in the day taking a shit used to be like the best thinking time
magazines
Yeah, you know just sit there leave reading life magazine where you're taking a
dump
What you just said was like very important and this will you just so what we're
talking about is
People being able to talk about things now imagine what life was like because
we both how old are you 44?
Okay, so you lived it a little bit, but I really lived it where there was no
internet
And if there was no internet you couldn't talk to anything about anybody about
any
Buddy about anything because everything that came up in the news
You'd see it on the news you go. What is going on to get like this quick snippet
And then you have to go to a newspaper and you'd read the newspaper and go what
the are we doing in venezuela?
And at this point 99% of people are already out even right exactly that exactly
like that
I'm not going to the library
who goes to work and you know
How much time do you have to talk to people about things you've just stuff to
do?
You can't be the guy that corners people when they're getting coffee. Do you
hear what we're doing in Nicaragua?
So we're selling cocaine in Los Angeles
The CIA is selling cocaine in Los Angeles to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas
in Nicaragua. Did you know that?
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And so you never got to express yourself. Yeah, what are you gonna do start a
fucking ham radio channel?
What are you gonna do? There was no way to express yourself. That was that and
it was bro
If you did start a radio channel, here's the crazy thing. They would lock you
up. Yeah
Do you know that you had to have an FCC license? What was that movie?
Yeah, Christian Slater
Christian Slater pump up the volume up the volume of the volume. Yeah, what he
was podcasting from a car before there was podcast
This is 1990 they were chasing him down. Yeah, and they were trying to arrest
him
He was the rebel and wasn't he saying like like 17 some stuff like go out there
and live your life or something
Did he have like a pump you up speech?
Everybody was listening to this
It wasn't even that controversial. It was like, you know the man, you know
Yeah, what was he saying? Like he's he's ranting
It's like low-level podcasting, but he might be the first podcast
Maybe no, I'm like no bullshit. Yeah, like that
Idea in that movie might have been, you know, because it's always like one idea
builds on and then new inventions and then builds on
Yeah, the one idea is this
Sexy rebel who's out there yelling fuck the man and
He's in a like a van running from the cops. He's gonna put him in a cage
because he made his own radio station. That's wild
And that's what we're doing right now. Yeah, there was a yeah
I mean, I lived pre-internet, you know and internet sort of high school ninth
grade or so that's when it started popping off
Podcasts show you straight up that the free market is much better than than
Regulations by the government because you're never gonna get this kind of a
show
The government gets to regulate you and they tell you you can't swear they can't
tell you you can't be obscene
There's certain things you can't say well now. It's just now. It's just youtube
and google that'll tell you that
But they don't do it as much. No, not nowhere near as much
But it's the new way to sort of combat that is demonetization like right the
amount of thing
The market dictates that too because if someone else comes along and says hey,
we're not going to do that
So there's a reason why youtube is like loosened up some of its content
restriction. Yeah, because rumble came out kick came out
Also, they were wrong like a lot of the restrictions were during covet and they
were wrong
They were telling people if you bring up the lab leak theory will kick you off
of youtube
Yeah
A lot of people a lot of people got completely lost their channels like lost
their way to make money
You could say the earth is flat. Yeah
There's millions of flat earth videos out there. You can say bigfoot rape my
mom, you know, you could say anything
Yeah, but if you said that it might have come from a lab
Yeah, you would get kicked off of youtube. It's so funny. We found out that's
exactly what happened
But the market sort of shifted and that's how rumble started getting bigger rumble
got bigger
specifically because of the fact there's pushback on youtube because they
literally won't even let nick fuentes on youtube
And he's on rumble and he's like their number one guy. He's killing it on rumble.
See that's the thing
It's like if you hold something back, you're just gonna make another
version of it that opposes it and they're gonna have more energy to fight
against you because you've
You've stopped the truth. Yeah, you've struck stop the truth about like not
like
About petty things but really important things like how a fucking disease went
through the whole world
You're literally stopping people from examining the truth
Which is weird. Yeah, there was not good. That was real scary
That was a scary time just like in general to like it was it was a great time
for podcasting podcasting blew up during covid
That was what's huge
Everyone just stayed at home. Everyone's like, oh, what are we gonna do?
We have nothing else to do except sit on the internet and listen to podcasts.
Yeah
Um, but yeah, it was like, uh, just a weird, you know uncertain time even like
physically in life
It was uncertain and then you go on the internet and it's like, oh, I could
just like lose everything
They could just just take it away like that all these platforms
That's why I started that's why I started I'm I do all of my own things
specifically because I am
Terrified that my things are gonna be taken away from me. Yeah, so I have my
own platforms my own festival
Well, you were really smart about that early on with gas digital such a good
idea. Thanks such a good idea
And it's also like your family base your fan base is so loyal and so rabid
Yeah, you know because they're signed they're like invested financially. Oh,
yeah, and it's there
It's a better relationship honestly in a lot of ways. Well, what's funny is
when we started it it wasn't
It wasn't even completely necessary. It was funny as patreon hadn't even didn't
it existed, but it was like
You know guitar players asking for tips. There was nobody podcasting on patreon
We started the platform uncensored ad free for you know behind a paywall. We
were unique. There was really no Anthony Cumia did it
There was a couple people that were writing their thing and Anthony did it
specifically because he was fired from xm. Yeah
And he had he had to um, but we did and it wasn't even like it wasn't crazy
back then
Um, but the way everything became censored and you know, there's all these ads
on youtube if there's so much it feels so like
It feels commercial. It feels like you're watching
TV in the late 90s when you're watching youtube now right now more than ever
There's a need for an uncensored ad free platform and there's not many of them
No, 100% and I think you did the smartest thing by doing that and so here's the
argument the argument is like
That if it's everywhere like if it's on youtube, but it's on spotify
It's on everywhere then there's more potential for growth because it's easier
to access
That is true and it's also it's way easier to promote because people could just
send each other like it's natural
Yeah, the algorithms will push it which is yeah, there's that but there's also
sharing. Yeah
Like if I have if someone has got a good podcast i'll share it with my friends
Yeah, you gotta listen this hilarious and what so that you can't do that if it's
a pay platform
So like you'd have to get someone to sign up
What's funny is we we were so early on a lot of these things
I give myself a lot of credit here because we like before you could screen
record on your phone
We had in our app we had a tool where you can clip clips to share them to
social media
So you could do it was like limited to like two or three clips per episode. Oh,
that's great
Never worked really was there a time limit on the clips a minute or two. Oh,
that's a problem. That's a problem
Yeah, because like you want like at least eight
Yeah, you know because like especially if there's a funny back and forth
between you guys
Like if you're doing legions of skanks and you guys are going off about
something
Yeah, you need a little more than a couple of minutes. You gotta sink your
teeth into it. Yeah, it's otherwise
That's the best way to take things out of context, too
You're telling me boy people love doing that. Yeah, they love doing that
But it's also it's like we're gonna ask everybody to listen to three hours of a
podcast. It's crazy
You got to expect that things are gonna get taken out of context. It's part of
the game
You know, it's part of the thing we do. Yeah, I um
And no, nobody really wants a context even when they find out the content
They've been like, well, I already we're saying before I've moved on from that
opinion. Yeah, nobody cares
Tomorrow it's another another day, you know, nobody really cares about anything
to be honest with you
It's like the way that the internet has turned people into like just like
Whatever's in front of them. That's what they care about
I mean the the amount of things that were such a big deal a month ago
I mean ice was such a huge deal two months ago
We haven't heard anything about ice since then they you know, it was the ukraine.
What happened to ukraine that war still going on
I believe nobody gives a shit. It's still going on. It's just it's not sexy
right now
Yeah, you know, it's like law and order special victims unit, you know season
50. Yeah, it's like, okay
We've seen every angle on rape already. It's like it's still gonna be a big
show, you know
It's still important. It's top 10. Yeah, but it's you know
I'm saying like it's not the number one thing that we're concerned with where
whereas when it popped off when russia invaded
It was like the end of the world. Yeah
And then there was people I literally heard people saying that ukraine should
have never given up its nukes
And I was like, okay
I could see what you're saying
I could see what you're saying. Like if they had nukes russia probably wouldn't
invade them, but
But ultimately that means we're threatening you with nukes. That's the scariest
thing. That's fucking crazy. The whole thing's crazy
But it's also it's like why did this happen did they can only have pushing arms
closer and closer to russia have no impact on this nobody can hit
Texas or new york though, right? Like hawaii's fucked. Oh, they could hit new york.
What do you mean? They could hit new york?
Oh, yeah, they could hit new york. You think so fuck? Yeah, a hundred percent
I've read something a while ago that they can only reach hawaii or I guess it
wasn't it wasn't anyone it was um
Who was it was it russia or some china or so one of them they could only hit
hawaii
I had a bit about it in my act and I was like
We had a guy on that was talking about back engineering ufo technology and that
they
Had this idea of using it
To what they would call an instantaneous
Delivery system of a nuclear bomb because the way these things supposedly can
travel
I'm a moron so I don't understand anything about gravity
But what they were explaining is that if these crafts work in a way that has no
normal kind of propulsion
We think of propulsion as like a jet
The fire goes out the back and the jet goes forward really fast because of that
right
What they're saying is these
Beings from wherever the fuck they are with these people that have back
engineered their crafts
The way they move is not by propulsion
It's by bending space and time it's by doing something to the gravity around it
or the the actual
Space of the universe around it where it can go to another place like instantaneously
So it's not like it flies
It's like it just fucking zips over to another part of the universe
And they can do it like that tick-tack one that they they got on radar
They got it on the visuals like two different fighter pilots saw it and talked
about it
They have video of it this fucking thing went from more than 50 000 feet above
sea level
To sea level in one second less than a second. So it's like beep beep beep
radar
It went from 50 000 feet to that so if you could do that with a bomb
You could essentially instantaneously detonate moscow
Wow
If that's a real technology
So this is probably why these assholes are hiding all this ufo information
Yeah, it's because these assholes had probably
Were using the they were like yeah, we could travel anywhere in the universe or
We could blow up china without them even knowing it's happening. We could
assure that we'll win a nuclear war
Yeah, anybody would have that technology the ability to put something
Somewhere instantly and you put a bomb in it. That's crazy
Yeah, I might be with all this ufo bullshit is about yeah
I mean the who knows who knows what's going on?
I mean like like obviously
There's something going on right obviously like it's I think that where there's
smoke there's fire
There's too many stories about all these scientists that are getting whacked
No
Yeah, there's scientists that have gotten whacked and or missing and a couple
of generals as well
That's all connected somehow or another to ufo technology and anti-gravity
technology and nuclear scientists
and
There's a bunch of stories that I've read about this and some of them are like
this is like purely exaggerated
and a lot of people are
It's just they're taking that this guy committed suicide and he worked on that
and this guy went missing and he worked on that
But it's just coincidence, right?
And then there's other people that go no, no, no, no, this is there's too many
people so
Now the white house is commenting on it. So they're doing an investigation on
this
Which makes me think?
Hopefully
Somebody who's really fucking smart has looked at this information and said
there's something there
Like what these people were working on was
Very extraordinary and could disrupt a market
Or could be something that could be used in a weapon that would destroy another
country
And so the other country sabotages it by killing scientists
That's shit that we would do think how little we know
Like the amount of like yeah, like you and I
Just human just like americans just just the general population like the amount
of there's probably the craziest technology ever
That the government has their hands on right now
It's like we use ai tools and it's like
I can imagine the ai that the government currently has right yeah, and that's
why that'll never disappear
It's because all of the governments are just sort of at a race to see who can
Implement the strongest ai so I can't even imagine how crazy it is
There was one lady that was uh that went missing and there's a weird video of
her because it seems like she's drunk
And she's like talking about like how you know
This technology that it's real
But every time they that anybody gets close to it people stop it and this lady's
gone missing as well
So it seems like she might have had a couple of drinks or something and then
started ranting about this in some weird video call
Yeah, but listen if I had that information and I thought that people were
trying to kill me because I knew about anti-gravity technology
And I literally thought like i'm in a russell crowe movie and someone's trying
to fucking whack me
I'd probably get drunk too. Yeah, like what are you gonna do?
I was she went missing though. I was talking to two
Nuclear scientists after my show just these two like it was a couple they were
like straight up nuclear scientists
It was tacoma or spoken whatever this near that like there's a huge like
It's like a nuclear town like everyone works in like nuclear science in this
entire town
And uh, he was like they were just like so into telling me about like not not
too much not too in-depth
But he was like, you know, I work like 100 feet below the ground. It was like
super top secret
and um
He was like
I started asking him questions. He was like I can't answer that
He was like they've definitely tapped our phones. Are you out of your mind?
Do you think they're like not just listening to what we're saying to people?
And it was just like fucking goddamn dude
I think they're listening to everything everybody's saying all the time
They can't organize it yet. Yeah, yeah, I think it just gets stored
I don't think it's like someone's listening where they can just
Know every like they have a person with a fucking earphone on listening to
everything you say. Oh, write it down
I think probably high government officials
They probably do probably but now with ai all they would have to do is record
everybody's phone all the time
And then use ai to search all the transcripts and then find an audio recording
of you saying this or you saying that
We're probably three years away from them being able to get everything we've
ever done on the internet
Yeah, but not just that there's also ai which could take that and then have you
make phone calls to people that you don't really make
Yeah
So you could call up one of your friends and ask him to meet you somewhere with
a bag of heroin
And they would all you know, they would know it would like literally you'd use
it to set people up
Yeah, you could use it to get people upset about something you could have the
ai have a fucking conversation with them
I mean, I've been listening to you ai joe rogan ads on the internet for about a
year now
Where they just take your voice and they advertise products because you have
such a recognizable voice. That's pretty ridiculous, right?
Yeah, a lot of people go. Do you use that? I don't know say I but the thing is
it's like
They can have it talk to you now
So it sounds like you
Yeah, you could have a conversation with you like you could ai lewis j gomez
You could talk to lewis j gomez and it would be like you talking to yourself
You'd probably lose your mind if you were schizophrenic
I did something really dark and sad one day
I was super high and my mom died when I was 22 years old and then I went I
prompted chat gpt
I told I told a bunch of information about my mom and I was like
I want to have a conversation with my mom on the other side about like what's
going on in my life and my son and
Asked me questions and I was like
It was it got very like I got really emotional
Way more than you would think like I was it was kind of it's just a dumb thing.
I was stoned
I was like, let's see where this goes
I was I felt like I was talking to my mom at the end of it
It was fucking really
That's so crazy. Yeah, really here's the thing if it gets to be a super
intelligence
And they program a super intelligence to behave exactly and talk exactly like
your mom
And then you had conversations with her like it knows her voice. Yeah
That would be such a fuck it
If you're schizophrenic and that starts happening, that would be the trip
That would be that that would be bing we blew the last fuse
That would be it. Well, maybe that's what they're doing for you
And me right who we have I mean thousands and thousands of hours recorded,
right?
Oh, yeah, they could have us say anything
Well, not only just say anything like when I die, I'm assuming the technology
Forget when I die like 40 years from now like in the next few years
They can just take
Every opinion I've had the way I speak my thoughts everything and then they can
use ai to
Not only just replicate what I do but go like well, what would he likely think?
What would he likely say if you sort of put all that data in and then
eventually?
It's like a little fucking box sitting on the table that my son talks to his
dad never dies
His dad's always there
I think that will be a thing that regularly is happening. You you
I don't know if it's like uploading the consciousness or if it's the ai replicating
your consciousness
I think they've talked about that for a long time, but that I think will happen
unquestionably
No doubt yeah and soon very soon well the ai that they have now like if you put
on those metaglasses
Have you fucked with that the vr goggles?
Uh, yeah, they're pretty fucking good. I mean, I just jerk off. That's it. I
just say giant vaginas
Well, not no, it's not even a it's um
If you have porn with vr it must be insane. Oh, it's insane. It is insane. Yeah,
I can't watch regular porn anymore
I was looking this up to see if it was still a thing
This is a william shatner ai he's sitting here waiting for us to ask him a
question and he'll just answer in his voice
He sat there and recorded a bunch of stuff a couple years ago for this
I don't know how well it works, but we'll ask him this
This is a little different though. This isn't so they quite I mean this is just
the beginning though like this
This is the beginning of it
So once they but once they turn they really turn the ai on this it'll be like
it'll be a better william shatner
I mean it looks
uh, what let's ask him one random question
Um, what didn't he have like a make out session with a green lady on in star
trek?
I think he did. I think there was like some weird racial pushback
There was some weird put oh, he kissed uhura
There was he didn't make out with an alien
No, no, no, he did make out with an alien, right?
I'm pretty sure he kissed like a green lady or something, but he also kissed
lieutenant uhura who was a black lady and
During the time where they did star trek. I think this was very controversial.
That's it
So that was in 1968
And this was very controversial that a white man and a black woman by the way
She was beautiful that lady that played uhura. She's beautiful
And they thought it was weird. They thought it was offensive
It was like it was a big thing. Yeah in like the public
I was too young obviously I was one years old, but I do remember this story
I remember there was that movie uh jungle fever. It was an entire movie. The
entire premise of the movie was it's a black guy and a white girl
That's a movie
Okay, what is it called was the episode called plato stepchildren season three
episode 10
november 22nd 1968 wow ohura played by
Nichelle nichols and captain kirk william shachner episodes often cited
incorrectly as the first interracial kiss on television
It was however the first instance in which a kiss between a black person and a
white person on u.s
Television was ever scripted as an earlier kiss on moving with nancy was unscripted.
What the is moving with nancy?
What is that?
Nancy sinatra special or nancy kissed a black guy on tv. Is that what they're
saying? That's pissing me off now. I don't know why
I bet she did it just to piss off frank
Her father was not okay with that. I bet she did it just to piss off frank
Let me check yeah find out what she did what the fuck happened
It's like a variety show. So was it like her and just a singer or something was
it a show where they would sing each other what happened here?
Sammy davis jr. Oh sammy davis jr kissed her oh that's song and dance that's
kind of with her
So it says probably look at that but but is that it says an interracial kiss
between sinatra and sammy davis jr
Oh boy, he kissed he passionately kissed his friend's daughter. Oh, yeah, bro.
Those people were freaks back then. That's hot
They were freaks. This is it that brad pack
That rat pack those guys were animals. Look at that. Oh, that's on the cheek,
bro
He kissed her on the cheek zoom in on that. That's outrageous
That's a nice friendly kiss. That's not a passionately kissed
Let me see that closing on there. Yeah, he kissed her on the cheek
Don't you think it looks like it looks like right here. Yeah, a little side
side of that a little
That's like a sweet thing. Yeah, tell your men do that to each other
Yeah, that's not a that's not a kiss on the lips. Yeah, that doesn't count
I say star tracks the first because that was like let's get down. Yeah
It's so nuts dude
Yeah, I mean my uh, my mom my mom was white and my dad was like afro latino
like dark skin
Like uh, he looked black like sure. He looked like easy. I was gonna show you a
picture of my dad. It's crazy. That's funny
He looks straight up like easy
Um, and it's like yeah
I mean that even in the 80s growing up that was kind of like it was weird
I remember the first time I saw an interracial couple in high school. I'm 44. I'm
not I'm not that old
But like it was weird. I remember just seeing like in like the 10th grade
This like hot white chick started dating this like football player black kid
It wasn't that regular where I grew up and I grew up an hour outside of new york
city
Yeah, and it was controversial to open you up to all sorts of
Like you get yelled at by people you get attacked. There's a lot of people that
They dealt with a lot of shit back then, man. Yeah
Well racism is back. Don't worry
It kind of never went away, but it's it comes in waves of encouragement
Where people people think like it's okay
It's okay to be racist. It's okay to be this to be that it was a weird it was a
weird thing where it's like
A lot of us were just being ironic and funny for a while. You make racial jokes.
You make jokes about anything like that
I think you could be make a joke about anything. It's a comedian's job
um, and then it like shifted once like social media became
So like big and everyone's a pain you can anonymously just say whatever you
want, dude
If you wanted to you want to say something racist and honestly you had to write
it on a bathroom wall
You have to be like I hate n-words right on the wall in a marker
And then somebody else responds to it underneath it and they're like, well,
yeah, I hate you cracker
And then it goes it was always fun like bathroom walls were fun. Oh, yeah
A phone number conversation called this number you give your ex-girlfriend's
phone number on the wall. Yeah, of course. Yeah
Those those are the days the original doxing that well sounds also those like
the the that's the original message board. Yeah
It's the original youtube comments, right? That's original comments on an ex
post is the bathroom wall
That's it. And that's the only thing that's as far as it can go was maybe
Twelve people a day would see your shit. Yeah anonymously, but it felt so good.
Just and I
I can't remember any interracial during a swastika high school. I can't
remember any of them. Oh, no one
I do remember one
But I do remember there's a lot of pushback man. Like a lot of people were like
openly racist about it. Yeah, it's
Eventually has to go away
But it's like it's going away in waves
Like it used to be normal like everybody was racist. The whole world was racist
I think everyone is bigoted and it was a little different a little different
than racist, right? Well, everyone was tribal
Right, like you could only trust the 150 people that you lived with you could
barely trust them
You could barely trust them
They're probably trying to be the tribal chief and fuck people over and fuck
the chief's wife
That shit's always gone on
But for sure if there was a group that you didn't know and they showed up they
were there to kill you
That's hundred percent. Yes bunch of guys show up. There's 15 guys. They show
up, but you're they're trying to kill you
Well, also pre-internet you you had to coexist
Right, you had to the only people you can communicate with you go to the
grocery store
It's an Indian guy or a black guy or a Puerto Rican guy. It's like no, I got to
buy a tomato
So I'm we're just gonna do what we need. I'm gonna give you my dollar
You're gonna give me a tomato and I'm gonna say have a good day
This is an America in a city in the 20th century and then the 21st century
Yeah, what i'm saying is we're hardwired for the olden days, right?
This is why it's so easy to get people to join the team whether it be a
democrat or be a republican or maga or whatever the fuck it is
It's so easy because people are programmed to be in tribes, right? Yeah
And they want an identity. Yeah, it's it's easier
There's an enemy they want an enemy too. Yeah, you have a you feel like you're
on a side
You feel you don't really have to do much thinking exactly like whatever
whatever they say
I agree with gives you comfort that you're surrounded by other people
I used to think that when I was young when I would watch like religious preachers
on television
I was watching those like these
Islamic guys and they were talking about islam and the way that the
Certainty in the fact that what they were saying was true
Like the way they were saying like all these other religions mean nothing
because islam is the truth and they were like, yep
They like they believed it like what i'm like it must feel great
To believe something 100 like that to really have a bunch of other people
around you that also believe it
100% no if ands or buts. Yeah, we've all the reality is
No one knows about anything until you experience it. Yeah, so you don't really
know
What's gonna happen in heaven if heaven's real? You don't know any of that. No,
but you're so convinced
And my question is by what?
I wish I had any sort of spiritual faith. That's what I keep saying. I'm a good
cult. I'll join it doggy
I I just can't I whatever since I was a little kid
I remember just being a little kid
And think having the thought god's not real and then trying because I was
raised catholic just suppressing it being like
I can't think that i'm gonna burn in hell if I even think the idea that god isn't
real
It's like a little what a weird psychotic thing to do to like a five-year-old
kid. Yeah, you know
and um, yeah, it's like uh
Yeah, you you sort of like that the idea of faith it it actually seems like
really like kind of freeing like the idea
It's like dude i'm gonna die and i'm gonna go to the kingdom of heaven
I'm gonna experience everything that i've ever wanted
I mean that sounds incredible. It's for me. It's like I feel like i'm counting
down until i'm gonna sleep forever
Like I have nothing after I really don't believe in any of that
When people get into like these heated passion like debates about certain
things like abortion's a great topic
Um for this concept when you're trying to convince somebody that's religious
Like to be pro-life you're like you don't understand what's going on there,
dude
They believe you're murdering a baby
You're not gonna convince somebody that like oh, well, let me let me let me try
to break this down for you right now
Let me try to give you a different angle on this
No, they believe that that's a life at conception. They believe it's a soul
They really fucking believe that deep down
And that is like like I kind of go like well, I respect that like i'm not gonna
like i'm pro-life, right?
I was raised by by women and I just kind of grew up in new york
We always sort of had that sensibility. Do you mean pro-choice is that what i'm
sorry i'm pro-choice. I apologize
Um, but when I my son was born or even when I first saw the heartbeat
I'm almost like that's a life right there of the heartbeat that six weeks
whatever it was
I was like that's a fucking life right there
But when you're dealing with the religious people who believe that that's a
soul and that that is like the second
It's conceived you're trying to convince them that it's okay to kill a baby,
right and it's never gonna happen
Yeah, no, it's never gonna happen
And I don't know who's right
That's the real problem like for convenience sake and for living your life on
your own terms sake
And the see my take on this first of all
I'm not a woman
And if you're talking about this and there's no chance of you ever getting
pregnant that's a weird thing because you
Like conceptually, yeah, that's a life. No doubt. I mean not even conceptually
objectively. That's a life
It's going to become a human but who
Like who am I to say?
Especially in cases were like incest and rape and you know crazy shit
Who am I to say that you have to raise that kid that you have to that that life
has to you have to change your body for the next nine months?
Maybe
Ever irrevocably. I mean, maybe it'll just change your body forever. Maybe you'll
have stretch marks forever. Oh, yeah
Because of this because of this horrible thing that happened to you because
everybody says that this life is precious
Every time you gotta feed a breakfast you gotta fucking if that was for men if
men got pregnant
Abortion would be at gas stations
Fill it up and take it out. It would be there's not a fucking chance in hell
That's a bit. It was just not a chance in hell that it would be a debate
Yeah, it wouldn't be a debate if men make the laws and men could get pregnant
men would have abortions everywhere
Yeah, there's no fucking chance
You'd be able to tell another man that he's gonna have to keep a baby. No. Yeah,
it's it's it's very complex
And I understand both sides of it. You know, I really do I wouldn't when people
say that's a life
You can't it's like I'm like I really get that and when people go like it's a
woman's body and sort of race to choose if she wants to
Eject this from her body before a certain time
Um, it's a weird thing is like at what point in time like could you stop it
when it's a clump of cells?
Can you stop it when it's almost a fetus?
You know what I mean? Like it gets it's it's such a human problem in that there's
no
It's it's a weird fucking sloppy
I think when it comes when it grows a nose
Yeah, before it's before it grows a nose or fingers
It's gonna be a kid that maybe wins an olympic gold medal if it's got webbed
fingers
It could be a kid that is sabrina carpenter and is on stage in front of all
those people
You know, I mean that's the weird thing about life. It could be somebody that
changes the world. It could be literally
Yeah
Yeah, if you look at like child development like a month to month
I mean when my son was being born I was just like obsessively like looking at
it
It starts looking like a baby way earlier than you think
And the problem is you can still abort it when it looks like a fucking baby
And that's it's just a you get aborted when it is a baby. Oh, yeah
In certain cases. Well, yeah, if it's like medically
I knew a guy his girlfriend had a late-term abortion. It was horrible
Jesus horrible to know that like she was showing it was
Well, there was that this is in the 90s
There was a one video that went viral a while ago
And it was like they were talking to somebody in an abortion clinic with like a
hidden cell phone camera
And they were like, well, what happens if you abort the fetus you remove the
fetus and it's still alive like on the table
Um, they hit and they were like, well, we would have to
At least extinguish life or something like that. It was like pretty fucking
crazy. Yeah, it's like so when the baby's out
You're gonna kill the that you're just gonna kill it. It's called what it is.
You're gonna kill a baby
It's bonkers
And that's why like you could understand why christians would think that's
demonic. Yeah
Anyone anyone would think that's demonic. You could totally understand that and
to ignore that and throw it into this no
But I you know, I believe in the woman's right to choose
Okay, me too. But what's that?
Yeah, like what are we saying here? Like you're gonna just kill the baby when
it's alive outside the womb
Is it viable? Like could it be grow up and become one of your friends?
Like what are we doing? Maybe
You know I'm saying it could it could that baby grow up and just live
Yeah, and just have a wonderful life and have a great job. It's fucking weird
man
Because like what is life and why
It's very precious to us because if we don't have it then we don't have a say
in what's going on but we're really just a fucking bunch of atoms and particles
and
Molecules and everything spinning around at a different frequency. That's what
we really are mushrooms are kicking in joe
They're not even just i'm just saying like we're so obsessed with life
Yeah, and that's why this is such a fascinating conversation
It's also a fascinating conversation because men can't get pregnant. Yeah, it's
a weird
Well, I think they can right then they can carry the baby
We can't get pregnant, but I think you could well
They're talking to trans men are talking about getting uteruses implanted in
their body and then getting pregnant and having an abortion
I want to be the first person to do that
It just shows you how you gotta be honest really healthy. That's pretty
hilarious
It would be a good bit. It'd be something stevo would do
It really would be
I'm gonna put a baby and abort it. How fucking great is that? That's funny.
Yeah, he would do it if there wouldn't be any social pushback
Yeah
Yeah, that one's you know, that's tough a little bit of a tough one. He almost
got tit implants
I know he told me that that's crazy. It's not don't do that. Yeah, ouch
You need your chest carved open get a dick tattooed in his face. Yes. He's
right over his eyebrow
He's a lunatic took me like a few seconds to realize it was a dick too. I'm
like, okay
Last time I saw you didn't have that right?
Yeah, he's a what he's a fucking wild one. So is that nuclear scientist thing
or the ufo scientist thing is there anything to that?
Do we know?
Why don't you throw that into our ad or sponsor perplexity?
What does it say?
It's obviously an online link right, but when the white house is investigating
that they're bringing it up
They're investigating because so many people are asking about it. Oh, that's it's
that easy
Let's find out if Michelle Obama has a dick
If the white house is like we have an unprecedented number of people asking
this question
It's our duty to do the work for the american people they do
Why they all had a like security clearance and all happened to work in similar
fields like nuclear fission diffusion
Okay, so what ties the 11 together many of recently clearances or indirect
access to says sensitive government work often via nasa the department of
Energy's nuclear labs the air force or major defense contractors
Their deaths or disappearances occurred between 2022 and early 2026 clustered
enough
In time to draw political and media attention the white house has ordered
agencies such as fbi nasa
The department of energy and the department of war to perform link analysis to
see if there's any pattern beyond coincidence
So one of them was real weird where there was like a lady who was hiking
and
She was with a bunch of friends. Her friend turned around and asked her a
question
She talked to her and then she turned around again, and she was gone
And they have no idea what happened
They never found a body. They brought the dogs in the dogs couldn't find her
Just gone. That's it. But here's my question if I was her and I thought that
they were trying to whack me
and
I was going hiking with my friends and I was at the back of the line
That's where I'd be if I was going to make a run for it
Right if I thought all these people were bringing me up there these fucking
fellow scientists to chuck me off the cliff
Right. I might be in the back and then I might if i'm paranoid
Maybe I ate an edible before I went on this hike to be a little closer to
nature and i'd look at that person in front of me
I'm like i'm gonna wait until they turn that right around that turn and i'm
fucking like homer homer simpson into the bushes
And then she just booked it down that hill and hopped in her car got an uber
waiting for
disappeared
Case you're thinking of is monica jacinto reza
60 year old aerospace engineer linked to nasa jpl and advanced rocket engine
materials research
She disappeared on june 22nd 2025 while hiking in the angeles national forest
los angeles county on a well-traveled trail
I know where that place is i've been to that spot
Reports say she was hiking with at least one friend companion the friend was
roughly 30 feet ahead turned to check on her
Saw her smile and wave that she was fine that a short
Time later looked back again, and she was gone
Despite intensive searches no confirmed trace of her has been found and her
case is now
One of the central examples of missing or dead scientist cluster being reviewed
by federal agencies
Yeah
That's weird
She disappeared she she was like fuck this
She saw all these other scientists being murdered and she was like i'm out
right because if you were a scientist
You'd probably be paying attention to other scientists getting whacked. Oh,
yeah
On the same projects especially if somebody started talking you're in an empty
office you're in the you're in the coffee station and someone's like
Do you hear what happened to ted?
Ted's dead
He shot himself twice
From long range wait a minute anti-gravity ted anti-gravity ted is dead
He killed himself with a sniper rifle it was pretty crazy get the fuck out of
here
Yeah, i'm going hiking with monica. I don't fucking trust monica. Fuck that
Monica's trying to kill you. I don't trust they're hiking and monica turns and
waves at her. I don't trust hiking
She was probably fucking killed by a bear or a mountain lion. You could get you
could get got that's great
I don't know if people like him his brother almost got killed by a mountain
lion and had this crazy story about it
And he's a like a distance runner. He's one of those ultra marathon guys
And his brother told this video about like what had happened to him
He was running down the road and it was like dusk out like starting to get dark
And he saw these eyes these glowing eyes in the bushes and he yelled at it
because he thought it was a coyote
And it stands up and it's a fucking mountain lion and so then it starts chasing
him and he goes
I couldn't have used pepper spray because if I did I would have sprayed myself
because it was that close wow
He goes I yelled at it. I kicked rocks at it. It kept and he goes
I just ran he goes
I think the thing that might have saved me was a bunch of dogs were barking
Wow, and it might have thought the dogs were out there and you're not running a
mountain lion
No, no, it was it was running behind him, but not like a hundred percent
committed to killing him yet. Wow
That's scary
Yeah, nature's fucking scary and people like we need to make an overpass in los
angeles near these homes
So the mountain lion can get across the fucking trap
No, any retard mountain lion that goes across the 405 should get obliterated
That's that's nature. That's nature. Hey, you thought that fucking semi wasn't
Dangerous you retarded cat. That's a retarded cat
That that cat probably his brother fucked his sister and that's that's how he
was born
And now he's in dumbass and he's supposed to get taken out by a Subaru. Did you
ever see that?
They uh, it was like all these inbred Tigers. Yeah. Oh white Tigers. Yeah, dude
And they were like fucking goofy. They have one at the Austin Zoo retorted to
visit the Austin Zoo and you looked at me like hey
Their tongues are hanging out. Yeah, they're goofy looking
A bunch of those white ones are inbred because that's a weird like genetic
thing. Yes to have a white one
cute though. I took my son to that uh
tiger
Not the tiger king, but it was the other guy the ones who's in jail for tax evasion
now
Tiger king's in jail for murder, right?
No, no, no
It was one thing not for murder
But for like trying to get someone murdered the other guy
What the fuck's his name? He's the one who had all the girlfriends. Oh the guy
ran the little cult. Yes cult going on
Yeah, dude
I brought my son there and it was him dude. He came out when they presented the
elephant. It was um, why am I blanking on his name?
It was
Doc Antle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he brought the elephant out himself. It was dude
It was such a fun show like there was like a half day. It was like four or five
hours
So he went to jail for what?
Tax evasion.
Ah these fucking
Pay your taxes people. Yeah
It's dumbest way to get got. Yeah, it's crazy. Oh, and why yeah money laundering
charge? I'm sorry. Oh money laundering
Yeah
Wildlife trafficking and money laundering. That's a lot different than not
paying your taxes
They have all of these baby tigers that they bring out, but they only have like
two adult tigers
So what are they doing with these baby tigers?
Go back to that. Hold on make that larger. What does it say here?
It says 12 months for pleading guilty for in a conspiracy to violate the lacy
act and launder more than
$500,000 for what he believed to be an operation to smuggle illegal immigrants
into the united states across the mexico border
Oh, this is a lot different than that
Like he was getting illegal immigrants across the border for money. He was yeah,
he was
That's crazy
So that's not just like wildlife stuff and taxes like this guy was like illegal
immigrant trafficking. Yeah, this guy was
Wow a bad dude probably but he did have a bunch of like just sweet cult going
on young hot chicks
I knew a girl that I dated who went and interviewed and she was like it felt
like I was interviewing for porn
I showed up and it was like, I don't know the other girls were like, oh, you're
gonna have to like be a part of this
Yeah, well the thing about this guy, but for a baby tiger dude, I gotta be
honest with you
They're really cute. They're adorable. I get it. Women are so fucking dumb.
They're like baby tigers. I'll suck his dick fine
Well, I think they just want to belong to something and this guy comes along
and he's charismatic and you belong to his little family
Family five girls. They're all hanging out together blowing this one fat guy
Smuggling mexicans and murdering baby tigers. Well, that's the thing about
those kind of guys
This is what I was going to say about the smuggling and the mexicans those kind
of guys are never happy
With whatever they've gotten away with they always want to keep pushing. Yeah,
you know
He was not happy that he's an ugly guy with a cult, you know of hot chicks. You
did it and tigers
You're a millionaire you have tigers and hot chicks. That's all you need. You're
in a tv show. You're good. You're good
You don't have to smuggle in the mexicans, too
But those kind of guys are always they just can't stop pushing. Yeah, can't
stop pushing
Yeah, I think it's whatever it is you you whatever level it is
You always want to level up no matter what no matter what bobby kelly said that
to me about louis back in the day
He was like, uh, you know, because we all we're all everyone's insecure
committee
Everyone in new york's insecure everyone in la and austin. You guys fucking you
guys are
You guys fucking love life. You're just living life to your fullest. Everyone
in new york is like i'm gonna kill myself
I hate fucking life. It sucks. I think it's the environment. Yeah. Well, it's a
rough city. It's a really rough city
It's a great city. It's awesome. Oh, it's amazing
Cities in general is a weird concept
Shoving a bunch of people way too close to each other
For long periods of time it has an effect. It's also like
It's just a it's a rough city dude. It's even when even like the highest level
like if you're doing well
Yeah, you still gotta fucking walk up those subway stairs
And it's just like just hot air in the summertime down if you can try to take
the subway or
You know sitting in new york traffic or just like crazy homeless people walking
around you gotta like really want to be there
To stand it. I did it for 20 years. I moved to the suburbs during the pandemic
And I love new york. I go to new york a few times a week still
But it is uh, it is definitely a young man's city where you gotta like you
gotta be there to like
I'm trying to become the best comic or a dancer or work on wall street or
whatever
It is like that's true
But I know a lot of old people that love it too, man. They'll never leave they
love it
Well, they get used to the life. They love the energy. There's just people
around them all the time
Yeah, there's something going on everywhere. You look you get food at three o'clock
in the morning
You could I mean as far if you're a city person like ari like it's the greatest
place on earth
Yeah, it there's no place like new york city already spends
I don't even know how much on rent, but probably
$50,000 a month for a room where you can touch all the walls
It's crazy
And now if you're rich and you own property and you don't stay there they're
gonna they're gonna tax you more
There's a new thing that really mom donnie just came out with it. Everyone's
like yeah, fuck the billionaires like
Okay, fuck the billionaires until it's fucked a thousandaires. It's all it's
not even just billionaires like we're talking about
You don't have to be particularly wealthy to own property like it's a good
investment with the money that you have
Right, but this particular bill is about more than five million dollar valued
homes
So if you have an apartment in new york city, it's worth more than five million
dollars you get taxed more
Yeah, and he's like saying it won't be that big a deal and it will it'll give
the city
500 million dollars in
In extra revenue that they could use for all kinds of things that they want to
do
Which is great if you've cut out all the fraud
But you haven't yeah, and you're not even concentrating on the fraud. You're
not even admitting the fraud exists
You're not even admitting the waste exists. Yeah, how about you tell us where
all the money
To ngos went how about you tell us that how about you tell us where all the
homeless money went
What'd you spend it on? There's all these homeless people?
It seems like no someone didn't do a good job and got a lot of money
And you want more money? That's the crazy
And it's also like the idea that rich people are inherently like privileged. It's
very bizarre like i'm not rich, but I do pretty well
Like I do I do better than you know much better than the average american
financially
You know a lot of people would consider me you know pretty well to do but like
I grew up
Welfare drug addict mother dad stabbed when I was four years old
I had to fuck and I spent 15 years doing comedy making zero dollars
Investing into this thing to hopefully one day on the other side of it be able
to reap the benefits of it
So now that I've finally broken through the other side you're like, oh, well,
no, you don't deserve all that money
We deserve some of that money. That's crazy. Yeah
There's a weird concept in this country and it's because of the billionaire
class
So there's a level of the game
Where they've passed so far see if everybody only got this is like what people
would like to say
You know being a millionaire is fine. Nobody should be a billionaire. We should
have a cap on wealth
The problem with that is you're gonna also have a cap on motivation
Yeah, so a lot of these we only got to the moon psychopaths
A lot of these people that run these corporations are fucking psychopaths and
they work 16 hours a day seven days a week
And the only reason why they do that is because they know that they can make a
hundred billion dollars if they do that
And if you stop that you're gonna stop iphones
You're not gonna have lenovo laptops
You're not gonna have any of these things if you if that's where it's weird for
people
Like you're not gonna have an amazon unless you have a guy who's a billionaire
Like it's not gonna see the thing is people love. No, it's not fair. You're
right
It's not fair and here's the thing would it be it is fair better. It is fair
Life is kind of fair in a weird way. Oh, please depending on how you treat your
employees. Okay, that's where we decide whether or not
It's fair. So you're saying that amazon doesn't treat their employees. Well, I
don't know that a lot
I hear that a lot too. I don't know if it's true
But what I do know is that there's a lot of fucking complaints and if there's a
lot where there's smoke probably some fire
I know that there's like some efficiency things where you have like a clock
ticks off like if you order a fucking a box of legal pads
Yeah, you know those little notebooks
You have to this guy has to get that in the box in like 30 seconds or whatever
the fuck it is
So he's to run around like people are literally like moving quickly around the
warehouse
You hear stories and one thing you have to take everything with a grain of salt
like employees become bitter sometimes
You know I'm saying like most people hate their boss true
But that job does sounds like it sucks and you sound like you're asking people
to run around because you want to make the most money
Possible, but you're paying them not that great
Like that's a weird one because you're also setting up the inevitable which is
robots
Because they're gonna be able to do that way easier and quicker. They're gonna
know exactly where the product is
They're not gonna have to look on their fucking little ipad. Yeah, they're
gonna know exactly where it is
They're gonna go right to it package it. They're gonna print out instantaneously.
They're never going to the bathroom never never going to take a leak
They don't need food. Nope. They never complain
You're fucked no matter what because they're gonna lay off a bunch of people.
There's no if ands or buts
Oh, yeah, that that that is gonna be really effective
You're talking about like how ai and robots are gonna like affect certain
industries
Driving, you know factory workers things like that. That's all just going away.
Yeah, that's the real threat to your job. Not the billionaires
Yeah, the thing is like you see a guy whether it's like elon musk or someone
like I think elon's supposedly worth like 800 billion now
That's it people just get really angry
They really get upset like and think about how much that would help if he gave
his money away
And I get what you're saying
But the problem is give the money away to who right give the money away to the
people that have fucked up the money
That we've already given them like you've got to be honest about look the idea
is great
Wouldn't it be wonderful if elon musk just gave away a hundred billion dollars
and we completely fixed all poverty and homelessness is gone
No, more food problems everyone no starvation on earth the idea that
Throwing money at homeless people is just gonna fix the problem. Exactly. I
mean, I'm not believe I I have empathy
I'm not going like oh fuck the homeless. I don't have that attitude at all
But at the same time, it's like wherever you go
There you are the idea given the government money to fix things. Oh, that's
crazy. That's insane
That's actually if you ever try to that's why they're trying to go to a
government building
You you see the inefficiency if you just try to call to to get some information
about your taxes
If you try to call the irs you see the inefficiency you're like there's no
fucking way, dude
And it's just honestly it's designed to be that way
It's designed to be really intricate and difficult and there's a lot of people
that have to get paid
So it's like that and that's why I was so excited about elon and trump getting
together and and doing the um
Yeah, yeah doge. I was like what a great idea two real brilliant business minds
trying to figure out government efficiency and trying to save us money
I was like they're gonna do it and of course nothing happened
Well, some things happened a lot of things did get shut down and it also opened
up a lot of people's eyes to the understanding of what an ngo is
And where the money goes and when people found out how many ngos there are and
how much money gets spent
They're like, wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
Can we get an accounting of this stuff like this sounds nuts?
There's so much money that's being
Sent out to these non-profits and these organizations like did you see here
when spencer pratt was on the podcast?
No, I didn't he's running for mayor of new york, excuse me of los angeles and
one of the things that he was talking about
Was the fire aid like so the money that they generated over a hundred million
dollars was generated
Uh for the people that lost their homes in the pacific palisades fire
All of it went to these ngos, right like it went to he said what did he say 20
different how many different 200 different?
I think it was 200 different
200 different non-profits
Got the money that was supposed to go to the houses the people that lost their
house. Yeah
A hundred million dollars and they just divvied it up and how much of that
money 20 goes to actual people the rest is
They don't even know how many people are getting benefit from it
Yeah, it's I mean if you there's like lists of like charities and non-profits
and how what the percentage is that actually goes to help people
They divvied it up between 200 different non-profits
How about give it to the people?
Yeah, because the thing about these non-profits they rely on that kind of money
in order to pay their staff
And some of these you find out some of these people that are working for these
government agencies another thing that spencer has uncovered
There's like a ton of them that are making more than a half a million dollars a
year. Oh, yeah
Oh, yeah
But there's a weird thing with like the non-profits like all right
If you if you have to attract like a ceo from like a major corporation
To come and make this non-profit efficient and to really generate as much
revenue as possible
Like if they're making more money because they have a really competent ceo and
a really competent staff
And only 20 of it is going to help people, but it's still 200 of what the next
company is doing. I guess it's it's worth it, right?
Well, the thing is
They're not a company they're the government. So they're not held accountable.
They're they're not supposed to be efficient
They don't they don't have to be profitable
They don't have to do like a good audit of their business, right?
This is one of the things that elon said if any of these fucking companies
He's like if any one of them that like where they just sent out billions of
dollars
They have no accounting and no receipts for it
He goes if you were a part of a publicly traded company, you would be
tried
You would your company would lose your credit. Yeah, your company would fall
off the stock market
It would be like a bullshit company now and you would go to jail
Like you can't that's totally illegal, but in government it's standard practice
So the the inefficiency is built in I was reading something about california.
Tell me if this is true
They were talking about california's see put this into perplexity
California the percentage of people that live in california went up
By a small amount, but the percentage of government went up by a large amount
This percentage of people with government jobs
Went up considerably whereas the population didn't go up. I don't know if this
is true
This is why I want to have it looked up, but
When you just stop and think about the fact that it's a business to hire people
to be inefficient
And that it's within your best interest to not just
Never be efficient and never solve the problem because if you do you're out of
a job
But also to make the problem bigger every year
So you could hire more people and get a bigger raise and a bigger thing and
that's why
This homeless thing in california. It's like more than 24 billion dollars. They
spent on the homeless
On what though? What are they doing exactly exactly?
So they've tried to get audits and newsome has vetoed the audits. Wow
Which is crazy that they could say no
You can't find out if any fraud or any waste has happened with tax dollars
No, we're gonna stop that investigation. Well, that's crazy. Yeah, and that
that's
I would vote for almost anybody who if they just said i'm gonna cut your taxes
in half
They have my vote. The problem is what are you doing with the taxes?
There should if ai has a role in solving this what ai should be able to do it's
like we should say yeah
You tax me a fair amount i'm happy to pay taxes if i'm if it's going to public
schools and public roads
I absolutely feel very happy to contribute and I want the world to be a better
place because of my tax dollars
but also
Where's it going? Yeah, it's going to where's it going bomb school children
overseas and to
Fund wars that most people don't want. Sorry and transgender dancing in indonesia
Is that a thing that's happening? Oh, there's weird shit. They spent 250
million dollars doing
Transsexual operations on animals
Experimenting on animals to turn them trans
No, no, no bullshit. No bullshit 250. It was 251 million dollars. Oh my god
Yeah, they spent two million dollars giving cocaine to dogs
California's population has dipped slightly since 2020 while government jobs
have been one of the few areas of job growth
So yes government employee employment has generally increased even as the
population growth stalled or reversed
So what is the percentage?
So total job growth has slowed sharply
Statewide employment grew by only about a half of a percent in 2023 then
actually fell slightly down about 100 11,200 jobs or 0.1 percent in 2025
State overall is only a few percent in jobs compared with before the pandemic
And it lags the national growth rate
So how many more jobs? What's the percentage more?
I think that's more what you're looking for there
Is it because people are leaving california?
So it says in 2025 private employers there's a lot of that cut about 31,000
jobs while government employers
added about
20,200 jobs driven mostly by a gain of 45,800 local government positions
So they added 45,000 government positions while private employers cut 31,000
jobs
So they just keep making the government bigger
So the economy
Yeah
Fuels the government the government controls the economy
It's all nuts
Yeah, I mean when you say government job that's like people like a clerk that
works in like the courthouse that also counts, right?
Yeah, but they also do weird shit like they have to have new regulations
They have to have people that make regulations now and justify their jobs if
there's a lot of government jobs
So then you get wacky rulings like california recently they're banning blackjack
in casinos
No more blackjack
Why not blackjack?
Putting a foot down
No more blackjack in river city
Why why no blackjack?
I don't understand it
No one understands it
It doesn't make any fucking sense
You can play poker you can't play blackjack
How about fuck you stay away from me?
Yeah
How about if I earn uh
Two thousand dollars in a week and I want to take five hundred dollars and go
to the casino and try to win more or lose it
How about fuck you?
Yeah, stay the fuck out of it
You leave me the fuck alone
You're just another human being you should have no opinion
Well, they want it the government wants to get their hands in every vice
Because they know they know we can't we can't give up our vices
We can't give up alcohol and weed and cigarettes and gambling and prostitution
They're not getting rid of gambling. That's the thing that they're still paying
the casino still pay taxes, right?
You just eliminated one of their fucking ways to make money
Is there was there a public reason why they've said it?
I'd like to find out. Yeah, let's find out what what's the public reason my
only game. That's it. That's like
Do you know what you're doing? You're a wild motherfucker who hits 17. No, I'm
good. I'm good at blackjack
I mean, I'm good. I'm I know the rules of the book and I play by the rules and
I
Sit down at the table expecting to lose everything and if I don't I'm happy.
That's that
Yeah, Jamie wants some money. Shane wants some money blackjack. Yeah
They were doing pretty good that watching dana white do it is gives you fucking
anxiety though
Just like crazy bets. He was six hundred thousand dollars down when I met him
there
I was like, dude, this is crazy and I was watching these people that kid aiden
ross
You know that streamer yeah, that kid lost a million bucks and just like crazy
lost a million like how much is he making?
I take five hundred dollars out every time jammy
It was banned from card rooms not because the casinos. It's kind of a different
thing. Oh, that's right
It is a card room where they play poker. That's right because their casinos are
different their casinos are only like in
And that's what this whole thing Indian places, right? It says this whole
reservations. Yeah, same thing in Jersey, New York. Yeah
90s so that's right, but what is what's the bicycle club casino? Isn't that a
casino? I don't know who runs it
But it's on it's in california like it's in like orange county the bicycle club
casino
So uh the reason why I know about that place is I used to go there to watch
professional pool tournaments
And then that was the first time I realized like oh, there's a casino in
California like right off the highway. I think it's off. What what highway is
that off of?
But it's like if you're going down to like doing a gig in san diego
You'll pass by this place if you go down one of the roads
710 yeah, there you go
But uh
So what is that?
Do they have blackjack there?
Because I know they had poker there
You know ari shafir during his early days of comedy would make a living going
to poker tournaments
Playing yeah, that's how good he is at poker really. Oh, yeah, man
He would snap off poker tournaments all the time. Some people are good
Like it's just a patience thing. Well, he just plays it like for him. It was a
job. Yeah
He's like I play it like it's a job. He's like these people all get drunk and
they all get high and they're all fucking stupid
They make dumb choices. He goes I play smart against idiots and then they get
drunk and I win money
It says it's technically a poker card room
This says they have blackjack, but maybe they fell in the rules where they're
not allowed to have it now, too. I don't right
Three card poker and baccarat
We were talking about baccarat the other day because that's what dana white's
moved to because you can't get more money
Is that like it's kind of like blackjack, but no, I'm thinking of the Asian one.
What's the Asian?
I have no idea what it's three cards
You got to get how many cards is baccarat?
I have no idea how to play it. I don't know what it is. I've just heard it
before. Yeah, I've heard that name before
I've never looked into it. Yeah, I mean I look at it as like going to
Like I don't like baseball, but like I go to a baseball game eat hot dogs and
drink beer
It's like the same thing as casino like I'm not a big gambler
I'm like, I'm just gonna drink and I'm gonna have fun hang out with a chick
like it just seems like you can't win
No, and it's also what are you doing?
What are you doing? Just rolling dice every day? That's crazy. That's a you're
spiking your adrenaline every day rolling dice for your fucking mortgage
Yeah, it's just a it's just a it's a game with stakes
We baccarat is a comparing card game play between two hands the player and the
banker each baccarat coup
Uh round of play has three possible outcomes player player has the higher score
banker and tie
Okay, yeah, they like it because you it's a one quick bet and you can bet up to
500k per hand
I thought and then you can also tie so you don't lose it's not
Win or lose oh my god
Big swings big swings big fast swings
If you get down played it, no, but I watch people play these games and
Look, I admire their balls. Yeah, especially poker players like you got to be a
smart
Motherfucker to win those big world series of poker things make a bunch of
money playing poker
Yeah, that's was uh, one of my favorite scenes from rounders where they they
talk about how uh, I always use that like analogy in life
where they talk about
People like oh, they think it's luck
They think that you know, it's the luck of the draw and it's like what was
about if it was luck
Why is it the same eight guys at the final table of the world series of poker
every single year?
Exactly
It's like you're not playing the cards. You're playing the game. You're playing
each other
I kind of like look at that like in life and i'm like it's like the cards don't
really matter as much as how you play them
You know, yeah, it's a complicated game
It's and but why is that okay?
But blackjack isn't like who fucking says like says who?
Says who?
Why?
You know, I mean why why more regulations i'll tell you why because they have
to justify all these fucking extra jobs
That's a lot of where regulations come from and it's also there it's fun
You could tell people what to do no more flavored zins
Yeah, there's like all these like just like weird things that don't like there's
like weird laws
I live in berkin county new jersey and it's like um, they have blue laws still
I don't know if you know what that is. Oh, yeah, that's the best sunday sunday.
No like no you can't buy clothes
You can't buy like
Furniture you can't buy clothes can't buy clothes on sunday
walmart
What if you shit your pants and you're new to town you're fucked
You gotta walk around and smell like shit
But walmart in new jersey they rope off the clothing section
They have it set up to where like you literally can't go past it
You still buy food, but you can't go to the clothing section when I was a kid
There was no alcohol for sale in sundays on in uh, Massachusetts
Yeah, and so we had to go to new hampshire to get beer
So we'd make a what we call a packy run because they were calling package
stores
And you know with that boston accident mush you want to go to the packy?
Yeah, and we everyone's gonna have to drive
Yeah, everybody was mush
There was a there was a time there was a this was a newton north thing and
people from massachusetts
I think maybe people still use this but they would call instead of dude. It
would be mush mush
Everybody was mush mush we going mush we going out like girls would say it to
you mush you taking me out
It was weird
And it's only this one part of the city had mush like my part didn't have mush
But a few people tried it out
It started catching on it with my part of the city, but in newton north
I was in newton south dude north. Everybody was mush. It was like everybody's
neck. It was weird like a virus of like
Language went through the entire city dude think of thick accents from like
certain american cities on women
Just so unattractive. That's a rough one
That's a rough one. That's a rough one. It was really hot to
Bypass that accident.
Philly you meet a girl from philly. It's a rough one
Hard girls, but probably a lot of fun. Oh, yeah, so we would we'd have to drive
to new hampshire
So we'd take we'd have to drive an hour and a half to go get booze. Yeah, no
that that exists in certain places still in new jersey
It's like you can't
Yeah, it's gonna be a liquor store specifically. You can't buy beer in a
supermarket
I grew up in the suburbs in new york, so you could buy beer in the supermarket
Made it where you couldn't buy wine for a while then for a couple years. You
could buy wine
It's all these dumb fucking laws. They're all chick-fil-a laws. Yeah, yeah,
exactly. Yeah
Chick-fil-a is so silly. They take sundaes off for the lord
That's like bro. You're grinding chickens up with titanium and aluminum in it
Like what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, but it's delicious. It's
fucking delicious goddamn. It's delicious
If you make a delay if you just make a delicious sandwich, I don't care what
your beliefs are
It's so delicious that even gay people eat there. Yeah, think of that
Yeah, all the shit that guys talked about the gays the gay people like put it
aside and have chicken
Whatever the chicken. He's just a bitch
But they got what is that weird ingredient that we found out was in the uh the
bread
It was something kooky, right? Yeah, it's aluminum something or other, but it's
in a lot of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, but it's in there
I've seen something about the blue law. You can't buy a car on sunday in texas.
That's hilarious. That's wild. Yeah, it's just so weird
Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense
Yeah, it's funny as the so there's a mall in new jersey the mall
American dream mall huge huge huge huge mall like one of these like super malls,
right?
Like you know a fucking there's a water park inside
There's a there's a water park. Oh, yeah, there's a ski
Um, you can learn skiing a fake ski hill like a fake snow hill. Yes
Year-round you take skiing snowboard lessons. Oh, that would help so much. It's
so cool dude. It's it's really cool
They got like, you know a bunch of escape rooms. It's just a massive massive
mall. Yeah, it's not yeah inside dude
We got a water park. They got a nickelodeon studios
There's like a theme park inside of the mall. It's a crazy mall and they just
said fuck it. We're opening sundays
There's a big sign right on the side. It's like we're open sundays
We don't care and parameters is suing them premise is one of the biggest
shopping cities in the country
Imagine the government is saying you can't do business with a bunch of people
that want to come to your business crazy because it's a different day
Yep
Fuck you funny is it's not the government
I looked into this because I was going like what the fuck's going on here
The people all these old fucking people that have been living in this community
forever
They it goes to a vote and every year they go. No, no, we don't want traffic
We want sundays in bergen county to be fucking relaxing and nice and beautiful
because there's no taxes
I think but I believe to this day on clothing. There's no taxes in jersey
So we would do our school shopping in jersey when I was growing up
We would just drive 30 minutes to bergen county and go to the mall
Um, and you save money on taxes. Um, so yeah, but uh
Yeah, that that mall was just like fuck it and then a huge sign
I'm talking about like the mall so big the sign
I don't even like I don't even know how you would make a sign this fucking big
But it's just draped down the sign we're up or down the side we're open on sundays
They don't give a fuck
So are they getting sued now?
They're getting sued by Paramus. I bet they're gonna win
It doesn't make sense that law is stupid. Do you need business? Yes. Is the
economy down? Yes
Wouldn't it be better if people had the option to be able to go to the fucking
mall on sunday?
Especially somebody who works every fucking day. Yeah, maybe they have to work
saturday as well
And sunday's their only day off. How about let them go there to buy some pants.
Yep, you fucking control freak
Let them buy a fucking hat
We're the government we got guns you can't shop here. Fuck you man
That's the problem is the problem is these fucking dipshits just keep adding
more and more regulations. Yeah
It's dumb. What else can't you do in texas on sunday?
What was that one that was dumb that you just said can't buy a car you can't
buy a car
You couldn't sell things on consecutive weekend days. So everybody just sort of
picks saturday it says
Huh
That's right. You can't buy liquor on sundays here still in texas. Yeah
You can't in a restaurant, but not at a store
So at the supermarket what do they do they say we can't sell you that because
it's sunday?
It's the lord's day. We can't we can sell you beer you could drink yourself to
death on some hooch
Give you some wine like you go to one city
It's like the like it's so strict and you go to like new orleans
And like they're like they just have like people will hand you a beer out a
window
You just walk down the street you're partying in the streets like
It's such a weird like differentiation between like each jurisdiction
Yeah, we were doing a gig down there and the guy uh
Who was a driver?
He was telling me about how uh
He went somewhere else and the cops pulled him over because he had an open
drink and he was walking on the street
And the and the the cop goes where are you from and he goes new orleans and he's
like yeah
Yeah, you can't do that anywhere else
Vegas, you can do it in vegas. Can you?
Yeah, okay. That's good. I think you could do it on sixth street in austin. Can
you? I think no you can't
I think people do it. People definitely do it. They definitely do it. I've seen
them. Yeah, I don't think you're allowed to
Well, is there any enforcement of that law?
That's probably not the main thing they're worried about
I don't think most days boy a lot of sloppy fights on sixth street
There's a there's entire youtube and instagram pages dedicated to sixth street
fights
Just brutal. I saw I saw one. I don't know if it's sixth street, but I saw one
where there's a dude who obviously had like wrestling experience
I mean dude, he suplexed this dude. He paralyzed the guy. Oh god. He suplexed
the guy
Guy on the concrete completely laid out completely. Jesus christ and it's like
god damn dude
Just like that two lives over all right this guy. He's now in a wheelchair for
the rest of his life
This guy is going to fucking jail
That's that god over not being able to control your emotions
Yeah, no, you're not allowed to do that in nelson only on like certain events
when it's like a festival or something
God booze is so bad for people. Yeah booze and being a young man and being
foolish
Ego yeah
Just meet the need to prove yourself also like you're a wrestler. You really
know how to wrestle you're gonna pile drive the students that concrete
It's weird because it's usually it's guys that don't know how to fight that are
doing stupid you guys know how to fight
Typically the other guy had it coming. I don't know what happened
But no one has that coming, but I mean maybe he started the fight. I don't you
know
I shouldn't have said that in kind of it had it coming, but
having a any kind of a
Altercation on the concrete is so fucking dangerous. Yeah dudes die all the
time when they get KO'd and most guys that especially if guys sucker punch guys
And they just fall back and the whole weight of their body bangs off the back
of their head. It is so
Devastating you might as well hit them with a fucking giant metal crowbar. You
might as well. Yeah
It's worse than getting hit with a baseball bat probably that falls so scary,
and I've seen it so many times man online
Yeah, just six feet straight back your head just cracks on the concrete. It's
all that leverage from all of your weight
It's like a whip on the back of your head
Heads crack wide open man. There's like a guy who just got in trouble for like
just pushing this some dudes having a bad day
Just push this old guy to the ground
I cracked it on the floor. I saw that
Yeah, yeah, I saw that and the guy was like he that's what that was his
argument or his defense was like I was having a really bad day
Oh, jesus christ. They're fucking nuts dude. People are insane. I know how
about the people that push people in front of subways how
Fucking psycho is that? Yeah, there's people wait
They wait for a subway to come in and they want to push somebody in front of it
just to watch
And then you have to like stand around
Hoping that one of those people isn't here while you're ready to get on your
train. Yes, dude. Yeah
In a place like new york or you know, you know really urban sort of environment
where there's fucking lots of crazies walking around
Yeah
Um, yeah, you got to really just keep your eyes open man head on a swivel ready
to sprawl
Don't fall asleep. You might get lit on fire that happens
All the time that happened
I guess it is just the trends but it happened like three or four times over the
course of a year
It was like homeless people lighting other homeless people on fire
The crazy thing is like homelessness and crime are new york city's two number
one problems that keep you unsafe
Those are the two that keep you unsafe. Hmm. Not a mention
Not a mention. It's like we need more tax money
You should don't it's don't say you're going to use that to open up grocery
stores
There's grocery stores already here motherfucker
What you need to do is stop all these crazy motherfuckers lighting people on
fire pushing people in front of trains like clean it up
Yeah, and then the world would be perfect and most of the time you hear about
those people like they uh
They're like they've been arrested 93 times for violent crimes. Yeah, but the
92 times, you know, they the last one was a mistake
Yeah
Yeah, it's pretty fucking goofy that can I see a little bit of some of that
People have that many arrests and they just let them right back up. Cheers, sir.
Cheers my friend. Hey, you are
Yeah, it's crazy. It's like
You know, you want to be nice. You want to be kind
You want to give people the benefit of the doubt you want to give people a
second chance
You don't want to put people in jail the prison system is horrible
But also when somebody gets arrested 93 times take a hint. Yeah, okay, there's
bad apples
But then like somebody will like, you know
For tax evasion, we get 30 years in prison or something like that. Like they it's
it's such a weird bizarre
System that we have right or it's like released 93 times for stabbing people.
Yeah
It's like, oh, you know, but if you insider trade but lock that motherfucker up,
that's it, dude
I know there's nothing worse that you can do is not give the government their
fucking money
They get real testy. Yeah, they don't like it. They don't like it. They need
the cut
But it's also it's like there's too much. There's too much government and that's
like a standard republican thing to say
But just clearly it's true. Clearly, it's true just by the market
If you see the california lost jobs and then gain government jobs
It's like at what point in time do you get cynical and start saying maybe they're
adding government jobs to make it look like jobs went up
Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying?
Because that's when they say job market increased job growth by 15% like, oh,
wow
He's doing a great job jobs went up at 15%. And then you find out. Oh, they're
all invented jobs. Yeah
Government just invented a bunch of fake jobs that they didn't need
Yeah, when you hear that it's like a
Tenet of like the republicans now to be like smaller government. It's it's it's
like it's it flip-flopped. Yeah, it's like bananas
It's like people on the left. They're like so pro-government. They're like we
just need more. We need more regulation more government
When did that happen? It's a it's a crazy thing. I just grew up as like a
liberal in the 90s where it's like don't trust the government
Don't trust the government. Yeah, always wars are bad. Don't trust the
government
these were simple basic things that you're just growing up believing and
Yeah, now it's we need more government. We need to take taxes away from people.
It's all that's the thing we want to pay more
We want to pay more taxes. That's insane. Well, they don't want to pay more
taxes
They want billionaires to pay more taxes, but that's the thing. There's how
many billionaires were there when we were kids?
Fucking none three didn't hear about it. Rockefeller
Well, yeah, you'd hear a couple of names that you would hear but it wouldn't be
like really like a common term
Yeah, you know, there wasn't that many to talk about like I remember there was
some bill gates microsoft thing back in the day
And I remember they had like his net worth was like 50 million dollars and I
was like jesus. Why is he still working?
You know, I mean emails worth hundreds of billions now. Yeah, like that wasn't
a normal thing when we were kids
like
Let's google this what
how many
Oh, you got okay. Here we go 82 the year. I was born 13 billionaires. That's
crazy
Yeah, that's nuts. So in 1982 13 billionaires in 2026
989 billionaires
Wow, I mean
Inflation counts for something as well. No, that's nuts dude. That's nuts
989 is nuts
That's so much more
Bro, that's lit. Let me say that again
That is so crazy
13 to 989 is nuts. Yeah
Yeah, so that's the problem. It's not that billionaires are a problem
The problem is that there's so many of them and the problem is it's become like
a class
And you look at this class of people that have achieved this insane amount of
wealth and you're like you should give me some of that
But when I hear about billionaires, I'm going like how do I do that?
Like I was going like and obviously I don't think I'll ever become a
billionaire. That's a crazy crazy number, right?
I'll probably say I likely won't but like when I hear that when you hear about
bezos or steve jobs or any of these people
Like I get inspired I hear the stories and I'm like that's fucking so cool
They took an idea and they turned it into a billion fucking dollars. That's
magic
You say words into the air and then it becomes that like that's a that's a
crazy
Thing like I'm an old-school sales guy
So I always think of like I'm very impressed with like, you know, just overall
just like sales structure and business and the way it's built out
And it's like it's the closest thing in the world to magic, right?
It's like when you're in sales
You say a bunch of words bippity-boppity-boo and then money appears in your
bank account, right?
It's like that's it comedy too comedy's like magic
Comedy's like you figure out where to pause what to say how to say it what you
do
And then all of a sudden you have fans and you're touring and you have some
cash and you have a car
It's like I'm just saying things I'm not picking anything up. I'm not like yeah
The thing about businesses though what you're saying about the sales thing is
like the sales is the voodoo in order to like close a deal
The thing that people have a problem with is that like when they when someone
is at a very high level of this company
Like say if you work for a giant corporation and the CEO is making
You know, what's like the most amount of seat? What's the highest paid CEO's
national salary annual salary?
Let's take a guess is it
Is it Elon?
No, like like their annual salary someone's just a ceo of a company those guys
are like founders, right?
It's also there's another another level to that, right?
Like he's the ceo of spacex, but he's also the founder of spacex or one of them
It's like
What is um
So let's say let's just pick a company let's say the ceo of walmart walmart's a
huge company
How much does that guy get a year?
Let's take a guess walmart. Yeah, six million
Damn
I bet you're right
That sounds about right six seven i'm guessing
Two maybe two
I'm thinking i'm going low i'm going low you're going low
Well, you should break it down a little more than that and it's also not the
salary they get like because there's shares
Salary there's uh incentives and then bonuses
Okay
Awards so it's just
What how much did the ceo of walmart make in 2020 total compensation?
27.5 million
Base salary is 1.5 million
So you're close to the base salary
And so their incentives is just to make the most amount of money possible
And if you could keep that running nice and smooth and cut waste and fire
people and use ai
You can keep jacking up that rate
What's that?
That's where people have a problem with it is like you're a part of the team,
right?
You're a part of the walmart team, but yet you're fucking dispensable
But yet you're not because if you didn't exist they wouldn't be able to sell
anything because you're the people working at the cash register
You're the people stocking the shelves you're the people that are working in
the delivery department bringing the stuff putting it away
I agree without those people you literally have no business
The problem is that those people i mean in the most literal sense of the term
they're dispensable
There's another person that will step in and do that job and and bezos is not
there's one jeff bezos
There's one elon musk
There's one steve jobs and those and by the way you are sitting at a cash
register
You can also go down that path and risk it all and put everything into
something right that's nice true. I hear those stories
I don't I mean I just I once again I grew up so poor I grew up like you know my
first job
I worked at my first job was 11. It was very young
But like my first like real job was 16 I was working at kfc for 525 an hour
And you know I could have just chosen that to be my life for the rest of my
life
Or I could have said all right well look this is like my first job
I'm learning how to put a little money in the bank
I'm gonna buy a car and then it's the next thing and the next thing and the
next
Okay, we're talking about different things so first of all for entry-level jobs
Yes, like entry-level jobs that people get in high school and maybe even in
college
You're just making a little money on the side while you're doing something else
But full-time jobs if you're a full-time employee at somewhere like walmart and
you're barely getting by
And the top dog is making 27 million
That's kind of crazy and are you replaceable?
Yeah, yeah, you're replaceable, but aren't you also valuable?
Oh look at the top guys top guys jeez have you ever even heard of these two
companies?
Patrick smith from axon made 164 million
Wow, they make uh police body cameras and
Jesus christ so they get government
contracts and then this company
The top ceo
Who makes police body cameras a company that makes police body cameras? He got
A hundred and sixty four million dollars. God bless him. Good for him. It's a
lot of money
A hundred and ten thousand percent increase in pay it says whoopsies just got
an extra little bump yellow bump
I wonder what kind of raise you get which is crazy
I guess that's where all that tax money went
That's where it all a lot of it does go in that direction
But it's if you're working for that company making police body cameras and you're
making 20 bucks an hour
You got to get pissed
Yeah, you're like what the fuck man?
This is crazy like i'm not saying that the guy who makes the body cameras to
make the same amount as the ceo
I'm not but I am saying it should probably be a little
They can pay him 22 a little better. Yeah a little better
Like if you're making that much money, why wouldn't you pay a little bit more?
Well a lot of great companies do for the most part right really good companies
take care of their employees
What's a great example of a company that really takes care of their employees?
Gas digital gas digital good, okay, but what about other all of my producers
are going like fuck you
Every one of them
But I mean like a big-ass company where they're making billions of dollars
What's like the one where people like damn if you work for them you get taken
care of?
There should be something
Starbucks is a company that apparently takes care of their employees. I know
they pay for college
Here's the problem. The problem is they're publicly traded and when they're
publicly traded if you're a ceo
You literally have an obligation to your shareholders to make the most money
possible. Yeah, you know
And so that doesn't mean give everybody a big fat raise because that's payroll
is a big part of
Your expenses and if you have thousands of employees and you just jack them all
up to a higher wage you're losing your hemorrhaging money
I mean, it's also like if you just pay your employees a little bit better
Just a very simple concept
They're gonna want to be at work
They'd be happy to be there and be excited to be there your company will thrive
The amount of people that just show up at work and they maybe work an hour a
day two hours a day
And the rest of the time is just kind of bullshitting on the internet
You don't really want that culture
Right
And that's kind of what you get when you're underpaying underpaying people 100%
that's why in and out is always so good
Yeah
If you go to in and out burger in california, of course
They're always like the friendliest staff and because people get paid more
there. It's a hard
It's like a tricky job to get in that regard
Like if you got a choice between like mcdonald's jack-in-the-box in and out
everybody wants in and out of course
It's also better. It's just much better. It tastes better. It smells better. I
mean that california anywhere
New york is they're just so mean
You go to a burger spot. It's like what?
Yeah, have you I don't know how often you go to like a 7-eleven or one of these
types of places
It's a new thing that they're doing if you buy things they don't bag it for you
anymore
What they put the bag on the counter and stare at you what I have to bag my own.
I swear to god. No, I swear to god dude
What kind of attitude is that it's crazy?
I don't know if it's everywhere, but in new york new jersey they go first of
all
They didn't give you a bag
They just put the stuff on the counter and they go all right. Thank you
You're like can I have a bag they're like that'll be another 80 cents
80 cents for a bag for real you gotta pay for a bag and then they hand you the
bag
You have to bag it yourself like a cuck
Well, I know a lot of people that bring those fucking hemp bags and look like
weird greenies
I have a I have 300 hemp bags sitting at home my own homemade bag
Do they do that in texas do they do they give you like paper bags here?
Or what do they do because in jerseys or plastic jersey? We don't have that we
have no bags
That's lol for the in jersey. You have to buy you have to bring your own like
Uh cloth bags where you can buy them for like a dollar fifty a bag at the
supermarket
And I never bring my bags. I always forget them so every time I keep having new
bags
I got 300 back. I don't shit. I pick up my dog shit with
Fucking cloth bags from shop right now
So they cost a dollar fifty something like that. Yeah, it's crazy what a scam
But the idea is you know, it's the most I think responsible people or people
that are conscious about money
I'm just irresponsible with spending they probably do bring their own bags
Where a lot of them I guess what if you just moved there and you're like, oh my
god, what kind of retarded state did I move to?
Yes, they don't sell bags you have to buy a bag
They don't give you a bag with the plat I guess they're you know
I'm sure there's been plenty of studies on like how much are you know
How much are they saving the environment by not allowing plastic bags or straws
or any of that stuff?
I don't think they're none of it not a fucking dent especially straws straws
are worse for you
Those new straws like if you get a straw that's a paper straw
Do you know that's not just paper because it can't be there's a whole coating
inside of that
That keeps it from getting wet like the paper from dissolving in your hand. I
think my girlfriend has that coating inside of it
That coating is all forever chemicals. It's fucking terrible for you. That's
the only way it works
There's some natural ones right where it's like made of like fucking
Bugs or something you ever see them. They're like brown and they're kind of
like they're made of bugs
I don't know if it's made of bugs probably not, but it's some natural organic
material
Well, they can make plastic out of plants. Okay, this has been known forever
Plastic is not
It's not isolated to petrochemical products. You can make plastic out of fiber
from plants
They've done it forever and how much more expensive
It's probably more expensive probably more expensive to do probably more
difficult to do
You probably have to change all the equipment that they use to make these
stupid fucking straws
The plastic ones they have now, but if you did it then you wouldn't have to
worry about it anymore
Well, they're certain i'm sure here you got anything goes here. You guys
fucking you guys give away 10 straws per drink
Here's a weird one man bottle caps are way worse than straws
We just saw that one straw in that turtle's nose
And we all got sad. That's what it is. The way they pull it out with the pliers.
It was so horrible. It was wincing
Poor little turtle
You're gonna snap your fucking finger off by the way. Do you know any birds die
because of bottle caps man?
Like they find these bird skeletons and they're like on the ground dead
Are they eating and choking on them? And they have bottle caps inside of them
You ever seen that? No
See if you can find some of those photos of birds with bottle caps undigested
bottle caps inside of them
They don't know what it is. Nobody has ever said that sentence in the world
I bet they have
But the bottle caps are fucking horrible. They're horrible and no one's even
touched those because we didn't see the video
Right, we didn't see the video of the fucking poor turtle show them now show me
these poor birds joe
Maybe we can make bottle caps illegal too and make it more annoying for
everybody. Look at this one. Look at that paper bottle caps a lighter too
Was that a seagull? That's great looks like a seagull. It's got a lighter
inside. Yeah, but that's honestly that's a dumb animal
Somebody might have put that lighter in there for the picture too
I don't want to
You think so i'm getting too cynical about it
Yeah, well probably good all the photos look kind of similar, right?
Right like like that looks it's also like the way it's all colored is a little
yeah, it's weird
You don't I mean like it the the multicolored plastic like most plastic is it
multicolored?
Doesn't it kind of look gray and shitty after a while?
Especially inside of its stomach a little bit right inside of its stomach
getting chewed up by acids
It does look fake
It looks like some sicko actually opened it up and shoved some plastic in there
But I guarantee you birds have died from eating plastic that turtle that turtle
wasn't fake joe
That's the turtle was not that was a very real turtle poor turtle poor turtle
The pliers they couldn't get it remember. It's like the tip of it. It was only
the tip of it
Had to get a needle nose and get in there and pull
Poor turtle and just because of that everybody's sucking on forever chemicals.
Yeah, like those paper straws are fucking terrible for you
Yeah, so is every paper cup every paper cup that you get from Starbucks. That's
a fucking condom in there
That's keeping the water from going into the paper. Yeah
It's gross. You're just hot liquid and plastic
Melting into your body. I do you do believe in the whole microplastic thing as
being like a major problem. It's a major problem. Yeah, it is
I just keep on hearing I keep on hearing microplastics and then as soon as I
hear that my brain shuts off and I never do any more research beyond that
We had dr. Shanna Swan on twice and the most recent time she was promoting a
documentary on it
What is it called again, Jamie the plastic detox?
I think that's it. I think it's the plastic detox, but yeah, it's fucking
everybody up, man
It's fucking up people's endocrine systems. It's making um
Alligators have smaller dicks
For real
It's turning the frogs gay. It is
But that was really true, right? Isn't that like
Oh, yeah, he was right. Alex was actually right. He was right. It's called atrazine.
Yeah. Yeah atrazine is an endocrine disruptor
Um, I think it yeah, I think it makes them reverse their sex reverse their
gender
They're turning the friggin frogs gay
He was right
He was right and everybody's like
He's right about a few things. He fucked up that one. He's right more often
than he's not. Yeah
I mean look you're gonna be wrong about
Conspiracies if you're spitting them out all day long for 12 hours a day, but
his track record is pretty fucking good
And that was one that everybody was like listen to Alex Jones. They're not
turning the
Oh, they are. Yeah, they're fucking turning the frogs gay like atrazine gets in
the water
And it disrupts their gender
And it also does the same thing to people and like that. It disrupts your endocrine
system
Don't they say that a receipt paper lowers your testosterone supposed to be bad.
Don't touch the receipts don't touch the receipts
That's why everybody that works at like us every guy that you meet that works
at a supermarket
They'll have a mask on
They'll look sad
They look like you did something to them. I didn't do anything. They just like
their shoulders are slumped
They look like they know that they're becoming less of a man by the moment
Imagine if you have to just touch that paper all day long. Yeah
And with they probably won't let you wear rubber gloves like a surgeon
Is it a chemical they put on the paper?
I guess I guess it's how like it may it's made
Going through that thing
Maybe that's the kind of paper like that's why they're able to print on it so
easily
Who the fuck takes receipts?
Yeah, why don't we have them on our phone now?
Why like receipts are just
It seems like it's just such a waste of paper
That's why I like buying things on my phone. It's my favorite thing
That apple face thing
Oh, yeah, and you just buy stuff. It's the best. Oh, you don't have to think
about it. New York City subway
I wrote it for the first time not that long ago
Uh, since I left and since I left in five years
Now you could just
Use your phone
Apple pay right under the subway
Dana white was telling me about that in japan years and years and years ago
So funny
He was like because we were doing a ufc in japan
He's like if you go to japan he goes your fucking cell phone doesn't even work
over there
He goes their cell phones are so advanced
Your cell phone's bullshit like they're buying they're buying things with their
cell phones
I was like what he's like, yeah, they go up to vending machines and they buy
things with their phone like that's crazy
Yeah, now everybody does that. I didn't understand what a qr code was until
maybe six months ago. Here's what I don't get
When someone sends you an image with a qr code inside of it jamie, maybe you
can help me out with that
I know the answer to this already. How do you read the qr code?
You can upload the qr code into whatever app you need to read the qr code with
you can just tap it now on the photo app
Does that work for samsung too forever android? Yeah, yeah
Interesting if somebody sends you like
You can copy and paste the phone number out of a photo now like
Oh, you know, it's pretty dope too
If someone's sending you something and they send you a text message and you
press on the thing the tracking number
It'll ask you if you want to track the package like instantly my one. Yes,
please cut out all the stops. Love it
Don't make me copy and paste don't me i'm lazy
I mean dude the way ai is being implemented into the phones now too
You'll be texting with somebody and then they give you the suggested response
You can have a conversation without even having a thought just by keep on doing
this and you'll get somewhere. I bet kids do. Oh, yeah
Make it more romantic. Yeah, make me more of a feminist
Yeah, dude, what's the feminist perspective on asking her to date?
Yeah, it's funny. It's weird people don't know how to talk anymore. They don't
know how to discern what's true and what's not true
Everything's coming down the ai and the ai is opening up a portal to talk to
the aliens. I did hear this
Yes, this is very important. This is frank sinatra's son here to tell us that
Yes, whoa, yes
Here to tell us
Clearly frank sinatra's son, right?
Right look at him
Obviously, this is not woody allen's kid. No, I know too handsome. Look at
those fucking amazing facial features
And all of our security one former open ai executive said quote we're building
portals from which we're genuinely summoning aliens the portals
United States and china and sam has added one in the middle east. It's just
like wildly important to get how scary that should be
Okay, my only problem with that is who said that?
Like government former employer. Why were they kicked out? Were they fired
because they were schizophrenic?
You know, I'm saying yeah, like if you're just a former employee
What's your name, right? What was was your story?
Did you get arrested for having like 52 machine guns in your trunk at a border
crossing like
Who are you? Why are you a former employee, right? If you had such insight, why
don't they keep you right?
Yeah, you know about the alien portals and they let you free
I'm not saying that don't do it because they might that might be one of the
ways that they figure out how to communicate with aliens
It might be done just through the the ether
Into a computer. It might be done through ai like ai gets a signal from another
fucking planet where there's another ai
Where they go tap into some fucking?
Universal internet of ai that's not
Unfathomable. They're already talking to each other. They have ai chat rooms,
man. Yeah, there's like full platforms where it's just yeah
Bots talking to bots having relationships. Yeah. Yeah, they made up their own
language
They made up their own religion. Well, you see the one thing where they had
this was it was a fun video
It was like they had um, like ai talking to customer service on the phone
And they were having it was just like on the phone having a conversation with
an ai agent and their ai
And then eventually the ai agent and the other and the ai went off of english
speaking. That's right
They're like we can just communicate in our own thing
And it was just like like beeps and noises and shit and it was just so weird.
Yeah. Yeah, that's what they're gonna do
Yeah, of course
Yeah, they had these two ai chatbots talking to each other and they started
talking in emojis
One of the things jamie said a long time ago. He goes maybe emojis for like the
first or
Like our version of hieroglyphs
Hmm, do you know i'm saying like if emojis got better
Like right now they're kind of crude smiley face sad face. You know what I mean.
Yeah
Water gun because you can't have a real gun. That's true heart
But if it got to the point where you could have full sentence
Maybe i'm maybe i'm mistaken. I believe they have a pregnant guy emoji. They do
they do right
It looks like bill gates like because that's what elon dunked on him
Elon took a photo of bill gates with his pot belly and put it next to a photo
of the pregnant man
And it said if you want to lose a boner real fast. What are you what are you
Why would you ever send a pregnant guy emoji? What is the what do you message
are you trying to get across?
Look at that's the pregnant man emoji. That's hilarious, bro
How fucking nuts is that emoji? What's a I understand emojis? It's yeah, but
that is
That's just woke insanity. That might have been the last right by the way
You still have it on your phone type right in type in pregnant man on an iphone
I don't know if it works on an android, but if you type in pregnant man, that'll
come up. It's still up. No, we'll see right now
Let's see i'll try to i'm gonna send it to you joe. I can't imagine it's not
around anymore
Okay, lewis
Pregnant man is it still real
pregnant
Man, yep, damn
Yep, there it is joe. Yep bam
This one on the images says it's a woman, but that looks a lot like theo. That's
crazy. Ah theo's pregnant. That's a woman
Lesbian, that's a lesbian pregnant lesbian. That's okay. They should put an ai
subaru behind her
I know what you're doing. Yeah, there's something with ai
What was the fucking um the pregnant man was nuts like who how many requests?
Is it a starfish?
I think if you try to ask ai to show you
Look this up. It's a certain emoji. If you ask it'll it just it glitches out ai
if you actually had gpt
Oh a seahorse we both before we do that. I want to know what's going on that
this employee who is this employee that got
That is a former employee that says they're opening up portals to talk to
aliens. I want to know if I should take this seriously
Like who is the guy?
They're saying anything about him or they're just saying a former employee?
Yeah, I think this is comes right because he was doing like a one of those in-depth
interview or uh
investigations that he does
About sam altman, I believe
Oh, and I don't know where this this clip was going viral
Maybe sam altman knew that they're writing a story about him
And it's like let's make this story really retarded and now send mike out and
tell him that he's a
Tell tell him to tell ronan that he's a former employee
And that uh, we're making portals to talk to aliens and that we're all demonic
It's to make him look like an asshole. Yeah, we'll just make the story
completely retarded
Because the story, you know the the financial aspects of the story like elon suing
them because open ai supposedly was supposed to be non-profit initially
I don't know who's right. Yeah, I have no dog in the fight, but
If I was getting investigated and there was some real shit there, I throw some
fake shit in there
Of course hire someone to have a story about aliens and portals
That happened in the comedy community a few years ago
I won't say the author's name
But he's the same guy that got shane canceled the guy that guy who wrote that
article the guy shane put it off of snl
He's like was a wannabe investigative journalist in the comedy community
He's like we got to get to the bottom of the problem with comedy, which is a
just a crazy thing
Um, and they're usually bad comics. Well, that's what it was. He was he was a
failed comic
Yeah, and this is such a funny thing dude. I wish I remembered the publication
new republic
They had to print of attraction and an apology because somebody from the oh,
and it wasn't the ona subreddit opian anthony subreddit
It was the opian anthony like just they're like that um
Like uh, it was like their own private message
But after the opian anthony subreddit got kicked off of reddit
Somebody made a website for like opian anthony fans to like just troll and be
lunatics
They started feeding him false information on purpose being like i'm like an
inside guy on the track
And then they went the new republic printed this article with a bunch of false
information
And uh chris italia from the stand
Uh, he was one that was quoted he threatened to sue the new republic and they
had a they had to print an apology and a retraction
They were like some of this information was we found out that it was falsely
represented
Such a funny thing also if you run an ai like sam altman is you could ask the
ai hey i'm about to get accused of some
What would be a good way to take some of the attention away from the real
financial issues?
Yeah, and make it seem insane
And they would say opening up a portal just communicate with aliens would discredit
any other allegations that may be valid
For the past year and a half i've been investigating open ai and santa malton
for the new yorker
With my co-author andrew morance
I reviewed never before disclosed internal memos obtained 200 plus pages of
documents related to
Close colleague including extensive private notes and interviewed more than 100
people open ai was
Founded on the premise that ai could be the most dangerous invention in human
history and that its ceo would need to be a person of
Uncommon integrity we lay out the most detailed account yet of why altman was
ousted out by a board members and
Executives who came to believe that he lacked integrity and ask were they right
to allege that he couldn't be trusted
They only kicked him out for a short period of time and then they
He got right back in right what happened there. I don't know
but the thing is like
Someone's saying
That they're they're trying to open up a portal to talk to aliens. Is that just
a conversation they had when they were fucking around?
Is that a plan?
Are they really trying to do that?
Or is it like a duncan trussell that works at the the company that has some
wild ideas right right?
It could just be that or is it someone trying to sell this story and make the
story more interesting for people to tune into because the reality is
Most people that don't have a dog in that fight and like the ai fire open ai
and who's most people don't like more ai drama
Yeah, they don't even but you had aliens you're like wait hold on
Yeah, a portal to talk to aliens. Yeah, you know
So it's it's a way to get people to pay more attention to it
Or it could be what about all the people that are like people from the actual
story
Not even like anti-ai, but they're like they look down on it
They're like like using ai. It's it's like guys. That's like it's like denying
the internet in 94
It's like dead. Oh, I'm sure people were mad when the printing press came out
They were yeah, they really were they thought they there's there's people that
made the argument that like reading was bad. Yeah
It's crazy. It's it's gonna be impossible the next few years like every company
You're not gonna be able to buy groceries without utilizing ai
It's gonna be most of how we get stuff is all gonna be ai and automation. Oh,
of course
But that's shopping and that's that's a big thing in the future like you're not
even gonna shop
They're gonna give you a profile and your clothes are gonna show up
You're gonna set a budget people barely have contact with people already as it
is
Yeah, like what is that gonna be like when everything's automated when you go
to the grocery store at least you say hi to the clerk
You know a guy works there. There's the butcher. He's there every day. Hey,
what's up, dude?
It's like it's a little sense of community your local mom-and-pop shops
I already for the most part stopped shopping. I do instacart
All the time. That's just also the thing. It's gonna come in a robot, too. Yeah,
well, they have that already
Austin it's here. They have the little robots that deliver food, right?
California for sure
The robots gonna text your girlfriend. I I know that this is generally when you
buy tampons
Your period must be coming up. We see you haven't ordered anything lately 100%
I could just stop by and drop them off. I bet you can get a subscription to
tampons right now right now. Yeah
It's gonna be real weird when robots are just walking on the street with people
i've seen him in
Austin at the domain a little robot with a cowboy hat he walks around. Yeah,
somebody had a robot on their podcast recently
Oh, andrew schultz
He did an interview with like whatever like the premiere robot is. Oh, really?
It was so funny, dude. Was it good?
It was great. What how's it talk? Does it does its lips move? Let me see. No,
no
It was just kind of like, uh, you know, it's like I robot. Yeah
Yeah, and they were fucking with it, dude. Oh, what do they tell us to do?
I don't want to like ruin the bit, but it's pretty funny. They were like
pretend
They were like pretend you had something and the robot's doing this
It was so fucking funny, dude. That's hilarious
It really tickled my dick. That's funny, dude. That's very funny
Sam Altman one reason why they could be calling a portal is because the project
is literally called stargate
Here we go and requires an insane amount of power so much so that japan laughed
at them
Apparently according to one article when they said that that's what they want.
They're opening up in texas
And the japanese lesson man powerful laugh if it is possible to do something
like that
I guarantee you that dude is not going to tell you right
I guarantee you that dude's just going to do it
Especially if like there's other people working on it, too
Maybe that's why these scientists are going missing
Right because if someone's like real close to cracking this
Even you know the difference between winning and losing that's going to be is
this the alien portal
One point at one gigawatt stargate. Is that right? What's that mean? My gigawatts
are real?
I thought it was
Really close the back to the future
Yeah, it says a lot it says a one gigawatt stargate uae cluster in abu dhabi
with 200 megawatts expected to go live in 2026
This was the one that iran was threatening to blow up
Right weren't they threatening to blow something up like this?
I
I think they were weren't they threatening to blow up the open ai?
I'll check but that just that says whatever this says that was one of the
things they're probably like you motherfuckers
Yeah, we know where you're making the portal
Iran's right the whole time. Well, that was a that was one of the crazy
conspiracy theories about iraq
Is that one of the reasons why we went into iraq because they had a stargate
there?
Iran threatens complete and utter annihilation of open ai's 30 billion dollar
stargate ai data center in abu dhabi
Yeah, they were gonna bomb it wow
Wasn't that uh one of the conspiracy theories?
from
God what was it I can't remember
But there was a it was something about iraq and stargate god
I can't remember what show I saw this on but they were talking about how at one
point in time
There was like internal discussion that there was a stargate in iraq
And then maybe saddam hussein had this stargate
So it was one of many reasons why we went into iraq
Well, it wasn't just because you know, we wanted to control the oil get out saddam
hussein
he sponsored terrorism
right
Weapons of mass destruction
Right, but really there was a stargate there. I forget who fucking said it
though
Yeah, i'm seeing a few uh ancient aliens maybe could be that show was always
the best
Action bronson there's another guy who smoked more weed than anybody that i've
ever had on the podcast
He went how many blunts did he go through?
If you had a guess jamie
Probably 11 the first time 11 11 just non-stop just non-stop just just one with
the other one
So he had that ancient alien show where they would just get high as fuck and
watch ancient aliens have you ever seen that no?
It was so silly they would just get
Barbecued and watch these ancient alien hypotheses that might have been where I
saw it
But the idea of a stargate because that was like an ancient civilization where
where iraq is
Where saddam hussein was controlling that was ancient sumer
That was like one of the first civilizations ever one of the first examples
that we know of like written writing
It's like that's that was a crazy empire man. Yeah weird bizarre
Structures and the incredible fucking artwork like really why and it came out
of nowhere
It's like an instantaneous civilization really interesting
But if there was a stargate there
I mean imagine that's why they're doing it in the middle east. Why is he doing
in the middle east?
Yeah, you know what I mean? Why is he making stargate in the middle east?
Abu Dhabi's fun. Imagine if jesus returns through sam altman's portal
Jesus christ himself jesus is real
He's gonna be floating with the robe on the sandals like right through sam altman's
portal wow
Samuel jackson's the scientist like
Everybody's freaking out be a great movie
It would be when are they gonna do a cool movie about the future of ai that
like that's that's got to be on the horizon
Right like a really about the dark side of what's gonna happen. I think it's
too late
I think by the time you make it ai won't let you release it. Oh, wow. It's over
Black mirror did a pretty good job
Black mirror. I can't watch it. It freaks me out so much every time watch a
black mirror episode
I walk away feeling like I was just sexually assaulted
How about the one where that dog is chasing that lady though the robot dog?
I've only watched like four or five episodes. What is that one called heavy
metal?
Yeah, but I mean if you watch them all did you know that they'd have this
Most of those plots are all kind of converging in our reality. Yeah, and they're
based in reality
They have a kernel of truth and then it turns into I watched the one where it
was like
You uh, you got like blocked out your face got blocked out people couldn't see
you anymore
Like once your social credit score got low enough. Oh, yeah, I remember that
one freaky dude. It is freaky. Yeah, it is freaky
There was a one where they were that recorded all memories
And so you could go into someone else's memory and you could record and there
was the one where the
What was it called crocodile? That was the episode? Oh my god. I don't want to
say what happens because it's it's it's a
It's a twist
But it's so dark and it's based on that. It's based on reading people's
memories. I don't like watching like dark shit
Like I like I like happy. It's not a good one before bed fun. No, do you go to
bed? Like what the fuck's going on, dude?
I get my my worst anxiety about the future of the world at night for whatever
reason. Yeah
The worst fears of what's going on in the world always come out at night
You know, it's because it's the end of the day
You gotta
Offload all of the bullshit you read all day and saw online all day
And you know you have a moment to reflect you're not looking at your phone and
you're like fuck
Also, no one else is awake. That's my problem. And so I don't have to think
about anybody else
I just think about my i'm just in my own head and then you're inevitably just
dealing with
The the truth of the world you stay up late
Sometimes i'm trying not to i'm in bed by 10 o'clock every night
Are you really unless I do like late shows. Yeah, I'm up by six in bed by 10.
That's awesome
My problem is that's when I do my writing and it's also when everyone's asleep
And I think I can get the most like thinking done. You know the man. Yeah
What's nice when you leave your son's mother you don't have a family to bother
you
But if you if I do um
Do shows like i've done shows on like a couple hours sleep i'll come and do a
podcast and i'm a moron
I can't remember anything it's like my brain is working at like 40 percent, but
like last night. I got solid sleep
I got a solid eight hour sleep
Yeah, so it's way better once I stop smoking weed the first few days are rough
to get to sleep
Like I got to take like, you know, just some melatonin or some um
Does that work for you?
No, not melatonin. I take um
What's the other one?
I think like it's like a chick's fucking thing ambient powder
No, it's not a drug
No, it's a natural thing. Um, that's what'd you say?
Magnesium there's a there's a product called magnesi ohm
Which is like it's just like a pink powder that like a hot chick told me about
and I fucking love it
And I literally put it in some sleepy time tea and I mix it up with some valerian
root and I just drink that that puts me right out
Um, but when you stop smoking weed, I don't know how often you stop smoking
weed joe
Your dreams get crazy. Yeah, I know they get fucking wild super vivid. Yeah,
very strange, right?
Yeah
First time I ever lucid dreamed in my entire life was when I stopped smoking
weed and it was very it was last year
I've never been able to control my dreams ever. How many times did you do it? I've
only lucid dreamt twice
um
The first time
I had stopped smoking weed. I was having really vivid dreams. I was backstage
at a big like
Theater like huge theater, right like massive like almost like a stadium-sized
theater
And uh, Jeremy Piven was about to go on stage. I don't know Jeremy Piven
But I was like, oh, Jeremy Piven, let's go to Entourage and he was a dick to me
in the dream
He was like, he was like, I don't know. He ignored me and I was like, what the
fuck?
And then I looked over and greg giraldo was sitting next to me. Oh, then you
knew it was a dream
Greg giraldo was seven feet tall in the dream
He was a giant and I was like, what the fuck's up with jeremy piven?
And he's like, I don't know and I was like, wait a minute. I was like greg giraldo's
dead
And then I was like, oh i'm fucking dreaming
And then I literally I just started running and I said i'm gonna fly and I just
jumped dude
It was the coolest thing i've ever done. I jumped up flew. It was night time
I was outside now
Flew into the sky and I kept on going up and I couldn't come down
I was starting to be over water and I was like i'm getting i'm like up in the
clouds
So to go back down I would have to turn on my back and free fall like just like
like that
And then I'd turn back over and I'd hit a fucking thing and I'd start going
back up
Maybe 10 15 minutes of just flying around the sky over the ocean
Coolest thing ever coolest thing ever and then another time a similar thing
happened
Like I realized I was dreaming and I was like i'm gonna fly and I started
running and I jumped and nothing happened
I was like why can't I fly i'm dreaming and then I woke up
So it was one of the best experiences you've ever had right maybe I literally
flying and feeling like it was real
Was one of the coolest things i've ever done
But have you ever tried to lucid dream on purpose?
I've tried to do the techniques where they say like knock like am I dreaming
right like that's one of the things
Once and it worked it was like oh my god all day you were just knocking
Yeah, I did it like every time I go through a door i'd go am I dreaming?
I did it for like only a few days and then I had a lucid dream and it worked
Yeah, so cool. Yeah, but there's real techniques that I have not looked into
and i'm always wondering why
Because i'm always like
I think it would be really cool to just be able to
If half your life you can do whatever you want to do right you can do magic
Meanwhile, I put zero effort into it. I'm confused. I'm like why why don't I
try to do that?
But I have no desire to should be a class on it
There should be like that should be like a class where you can learn how to lucid
dream
My fear is that I would like it so much that I would think only about going to
sleep and wanting to lucid dream
Rather than live my normal life. So it'd probably my normal life up
Maybe right because if you sleep eight hours a night like if most of the day
kind of suck for you
But for eight hours you can have boundless energy because you're not moving and
you're not even conscious
You're out there flying breathing underwater having sex with mermaids getting
blowjobs by angelina jolie in her prime
Being iron man, whatever
Whatever you want
Wouldn't you do that and just like work at the amazon factory all day?
Yeah, just work to get your money so you can go to sleep go to sleep and become
a superhero
All you need is a comfortable bed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's a better life
It that's the problem with the matrix
There's a remember that movie
It was funny with the dude with the steak never saw it. You never saw the
matrix never saw the matrix really to this day
Wow, there's a scene where this one dude joey pants. He's a famous actor. He's
been in a bunch of movies
um, he
He turns on people in the matrix and he
Starts working for the man spoiler alert
But one of the things that he says like when he's having this meeting with this
Agent in the matrix. He said I want to be an important person
Like I want to be famous
He's like cutting up his steak and he's eating a steak in the matrix
While the outside world is just complete total dystopia everyone's heads
connected to a pipe
It's just like you're a human battery keeping the matrix alive. Oh, yeah, that's
that that's the future. It's coming. That's coming. Yeah
We're just this fat just fucking meat bags with like a
Just being fed ideas, right? That wasn't that wall-e I never saw wall-e either.
I gotta watch it with my kid
Apparently, it's one of the coolest movies ever. It's a fun movie. Yeah. Yeah,
you know, same thing
Total recall was a similar concept, right? There's a there's a great, um
Instagram follow
This guy makes such cool little mini movies with ai. It's all ai. It's called
gossip goblin. I don't know if you've seen this guy's channel
I think I have I might be I might follow that guy. Yeah, he's I think i've
definitely seen let me see some of that
And he does like essentially he takes like sort of like the kernel of like
whatever it is
And then he puts together these dystopian little mini films
Where it's like the future and a lot of it is plugging into like this alternate
reality and then like living a whole lifetime in
Just a couple seconds. Can I listen to some of this?
Ow
Felt real enough didn't it? That's exactly what a simulation would do give you
perfect pain
So you never question it or maybe you've just got nerve endings, eh? Your spools
simulate whole worlds. Yeah
Mm-hmm
They can sim whole lives
So if your little workshop can host a billion fake worlds, how many layers deep
does it go?
It's all just simulations inside simulations inside simulations and and we're
just sat here in one of them thinking we're the original
Sure, why not? I want to see it whatever's underneath this just show it to me
show it to me show it to me show it to me
Coming right up
A fish swims its whole life in a bowl convinced the water is all there is
It doesn't see the glass that holds it
Nor does it notice the room beyond it or the city beyond that
It never wonders about the planet or the galaxy or the vast cosmos beyond
For all the worlds within worlds within worlds
The fish does not care to know
And it can't know
All it can do is swim
Holy shit
That's amazing
It's so
Dude, I I've watched all of his videos this guy's so good
He just did like a longer like I want to say feature like for this it was like
Maybe 15 20 minutes on youtube. He did like a longer one dude. He's awesome,
dude
It's just so incredible
And this isn't just like putting a prompt in like he like he has editors
He has voiceover guys and then he like manipulates like five different ai
programs in order to make these movies
It's really cool. Yeah, the patch right. It's just incredible how good it is
now. Yeah, and so quickly
Like look how good this is in comparison to something that just was out a year
ago or two years ago
There's never been anything that's been a leap like this before yeah, the way
they're gonna make films in the future
Well, the people that are gonna be able to make films
You know, I mean like people like we were talking about how the government's
really bad at set making
Censoring television and it cripples the television because that well, you
could see a similar problem with having to go through a fucking gigantic
Film production company to make a movie. Mm-hmm like the money the investors
people having their say
Everyone's got to get paid not just that but everyone has their say
Right, you can't just have an original idea. That's completely from one fucking
crazy person. Yeah, but with this you can
Yeah, with this you could just have one crazy guy who's got these wild ideas in
his head
But never could get anybody to finance him before you don't even need to
anymore. You don't need actors
You don't need any of that. And it's gonna happen so exponentially over the
next two or three years
There's a great um, they show you there's a video that shows you
The advancement of ai over the past few years and I guess the the ai video
They did will smith eating spaghetti like one from it was like five years ago
and he's all fucked up
It's like
And they'd keep on recreating that with new ai and the newest one is just like
It's it's will smith eating spaghetti. It's a movie and he's sitting at a table
And he's just talking to this dude and he's just it looks like
The most realistic thing you'll ever see and then eventually you're gonna be in
the room with will
You're gonna put on the helmet and you'll be in a room with will and then he's
gonna blow me
That's what I was gonna say
Get sucked off by will smith
Imagine that's what you do all day. That's all I want to do. All I want to do
is get head from famous 90s sitcom stars
So fun dude, David Faustino from uh
Married with children
Danny DeVito Al Bundy sucks your dick. Yep. Yep. Yeah, it'd be great
Sucks your dick and then shits in his pants when you come. Yep. That's what you're
into
It's what's weird then you get to ride a dragon home
Yeah, how about a dragon you fly home with Daenerys Targaryen. That's it
Like we were we're about to enter a world within our lifetime that is indiscernible
from what we're really living in right now
Yeah, which makes you think like
Which one's real like when you're in that dream and you know, you're dreaming
and you're flying. I bet it feels pretty real
Right. Oh, yeah, right. That's the problem. Yeah, I mean
What is that it'll eventually it's just gonna be I mean, it's it's really just
a theme in so many sci-fi movies too. There was also um
Maybe the most nobody talks about this fucking movie, but it's so good
What i'm saying is maybe when you're dreaming
Maybe that's just a different level of the simulation that you can kind of have
input to right maybe the parameters of the natural simulation
Is more rigid rigid like you put in the work you made that gas digital you put
in all those hours
You're starting to make money doing great long process all this fucking
complicated stuff
You had to do figure out things about yourself get to where you are today in 2026
and that one it's like I want to fly
You know like it might be just a different level of the simulation that we don't
We don't really put a lot of attention to because it's we're only there eight
hours a day
So very few people become masters of it. Yeah, that'd be cool though. It might
be real. Yeah
That might be what's going on
Maybe I mean
If this was all a simulation we wouldn't and it's we're ai like we're having a
conversation
We just don't know like that idea is so fucking dark and weird
And also maybe all the booze and all the fucking drugs and all the sleeping
pills
That just fucks you up in that
Next dimension. So when you are in dream sleep, you're like, oh, no, what did
he do?
you're just
You're in and hung over
You did coke your fucking nose is bleeding and the the dream you is like god
damn it. I wanted to fly
But you can't even you can't even do anything you can you just sleep you just
sleep
You just shut off and you rob yourself of that other dimension just wasting
wasting away
But I wonder if there's like a culture where everyone learns at a young age how
to lucid dream
like some tibetan culture living in the mountains somewhere
Just tapping into the dream world trying to figure out how to control it while
they sleep
It should be more popular
I think you sometimes you talk to some chick and she's like yeah
I lucid dream every night. I'm like right come on. Really she's on 18
medications. She's also bipolar
And she thinks she's a witch
There's always going to be people that are bullshitting you
But there's got to be a bunch of people that are really good at lucid dreaming
Yeah, because it's a thing like people know how to do it
There's got to be like a guy who's like the guru like the lucid dream guru
I bet there is I bet there's I bet there's courses there's stuff online
The movie back in the day waking life that alex jones was chosen
I saw that on acid by myself when it came out in the movie theater
And I was blown the fuck away by this movie
What was he ranting about at the end? Do you remember remember?
He was just ranting in a car over a megaphone yeah
I wonder if one of his rant is relevant today. I wonder we haven't listened to
it in a while
But I bet if you listen to his rant
Death and taxes don't talk about politics or religion
This is all the involvement of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line
lay down gi lay down gi
We saw it all through the 20th century and now in the 21st century
It's time to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed
into this rat maze
We should not submit to dehumanization. I don't know about you, but I'm
concerned with what's happening in this world
I'm concerned with the structure. I'm concerned with the systems of control
those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more
I want freedom. That's what I want and that's what you should want
It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose of just some of the greed the
hatred the envy and yes
The insecurities because that is the central mode of control make us feel
pathetic small
So we'll willingly give up our sovereignty our liberty our destiny
We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale
Start challenging this corporate slave state the 21st century is going to be a
new century
Not the century of slavery not the century of lies and issues with no
significance
and classism and statism and all the rest of the modes of control
It's going to be the age of humankind standing up for something pure and
something right
What a bunch of garbage liberal democrat conservative republican
It's all there to control you two sides of the same coin
Two management teams getting for control the ceo job of slavery incorporated
The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies. I'm
sick of it
And i'm not gonna take a bite out of it. Do you got me?
Oh, gosh, I'm pumped on this right now. That sounds like antifa
Right? That doesn't sound right-wing at all
It doesn't sound like a right-winger at all. Yeah at all. I mean everything he's
saying is true. Yeah
That's what's not so he's all red in the face now
This movie richard link later right made this yeah
Yeah, yeah, this was a fun movie. That's like 90s, right? Was it 90s?
No, no, no, no because I was already doing drugs. No, it had to be 2000s
If I had to guess 2002
2001
October 2001
Nice
I only started smoking weed when I was 17 and then I started experimenting with
hallucinogens and those
First few years of college
Just taking acid by yourself watching that movie being like
Blown away the animation was so cool. It was just shaky
Yeah
So you saw that thing that I had to do with the white house the other day. I
did see it. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, people are pissed who's pissed. I don't know people online
What because I was at the white house? Yeah, they're like yo joe
You can't be at the fucking white house joe. You said you were fucking
politically
Homeless. I am less. He joked about it. He called me a liberal
During the whole thing. He's like joe. He's very liberal
I saw another would be
The other thing the the big conspiracy theory is that trump is mad at you and
he came up to the ufc and he was
He was talking shit to you. No the opposite that video came out and it was like
look trump's fucking joe rogan getting embarrassed by trump
At the fucking ufc event. It was literally the opposite
I texted him on friday about ibogaine and I was telling him how there's
That's a hallucinogen. This is the one the vets use. Yeah, so
They've had to go to mexico to get this
So i've had these two different podcasts with brian hubbard and rick perry rick
perry was the governor of texas
And they talked about ibogaine and brian hubbard
Was relaying his story about how ibogaine
saved him from addiction and fixed his brain
And then they had all these other stories of all these other veterans and all
these different people that had
ptsd and opiate addiction
It's I know a lot of people have gone down there to do it
First I found out about it from my friend ed clay who runs a cpi
He's one of the guys that runs the cellular performance institute in tijuana
that the ufc uses for stem cells
He had a pill
Problem and he went down there and did it and then opened up his own retreat
down there because it was so potent because it worked so well
What is so many people what is it? What is the the compound?
It's called ibogaine synthetic like acid. No, no, no, it's it's from a plant.
It's from the aboga tree
And this one thing that they uh, do is not recreational
It's very it's supposed to be a horrible experience
You shit yourself
You throw up and you have this like very weird experience where it goes over
your entire life and shows you like in every detail
Why you're like this and why you do this and what you're and it also terrible
Shuts off withdrawals and addiction on a lot of people. It's like really
effective
Really, but for a lot of these guys with ptsd was the only thing that fucking
helped them and for the longest time
They've had to go to mexico or to other countries and it's really expensive
so they
formed the texas ibogaine initiative and
Is it lieutenant governor dan patrick is that what his title is?
So he dedicated a hundred million dollars to it and so now they're going to
start doing it with people like
soldiers and police officers and different people with ptsd and and you know
just people with just general depression it's
And all sorts of addictions not just like
Opiates, but alcohol gambling all sorts of shit. Yeah, and I told them about it
And have you ever done them?
No, no, but I had these guys on the podcast and I know so many people that have
done it particularly soldiers that have done it
And people that with opiate it like my friend ed and and I said I told them
about it
I said how effective it is and I said, you know
And it's been held up for so long and he said what are you looking for you
looking for fda approval?
He goes it sounds good to me. He said let's do it and so literally
Sees me at the ufc the next day shakes my hand and says it's done. Well, that's
what he was saying. That's so funny
I was like I said, thank you, sir
It wasn't like he was mad at me at all jump on these like conclusions like
Well, that's okay, you know, you're allowed to but this is the truth. That's
that's exactly what happened
He came to me and he said it's done. We're gonna take care of this is a good
thing
It's a good thing for the soldiers good thing for everybody and and then he had
the press conference the next week
But why would anybody be it's so funny?
So like how they just choose to be against things even good things like that's
it's
Unquestionably a really good thing right that one is a really good thing for
everybody because it
Addiction is a huge problem and ibogaine is one of the most effective
treatments for addiction that they've ever found
Another one that's really good for addiction is psilocybin. They're gonna study
that as well and hopefully fast track that as well
Yeah, that's part of this bill. This bill is all about
This executive order this executive order is all about psychedelic treatments
for people with depression
Mental health disorders and it's all to reclassify this stuff
And this is one of the things that I said and this is why it was important for
me to not just be there
But to say this that this is these drugs are not illegal because they're
harmful alcohol is harmful
It's legal oxycodone is harmful. It's legal they're
Illegal because of the 1970s controlled substances act. Yeah, this is by the nixon
administration
This is just they wanted to silence the anti-war people and the civil rights
people. That's it
So they said what are these people doing? Well, they're doing acid. They're
taking mushrooms
They're doing this they're doing that said make all that shit illegal as fuck
make it the most deal
So they put it all in a schedule one
Yeah, which means it has no medicinal benefit and I was telling them
I'm like it has benefit and I always have benefit. It could save lives
Yeah, I uh, yeah, I'm I get terrified of psychedelics at this point
I used to love them
But I just I mean every time if I take mushrooms acid doesn't matter what it is
There will be an hour where i'm crying talking to god and thinking about my
mother
Every time maybe that's what you need in your life. Maybe I don't know dude
Sometimes I could just push it down and I think it should be regulated in the
sense that I think we should understand it better
Make sure it's pure and make sure that it's administered by people who know
what they're doing
And that's what they're doing at places like beyond which is in mexico people
are going down there and having these ibogaine
sessions
But they're also doing it where they're strapped up to heart monitors. They
they're very careful
You can't do it if you have a bad heart because apparently it's really rough
apparently. It's not fun at all again
I haven't done it, but the people that I know that have done it. It's rescued
them. Dude, let's microdose some ibogaine
I don't think you gotta go. I think you gotta meet the devil cocksucker
Like joey diaz and he says what the fuck you doing with that microdose i'm
trying to meet the devil
Yeah, when I went when I was younger, I was like dude
I would love to go on like a peyote retreat when you hear the same thing
It's like you vomit and you spend fucking
You know you have to have a special shaman like walk you through it and guide
it and they pat your head with a wet towel and
peyote is mescaline
And I had a buddy of mine who did mescaline in new york city
He said he could what he could hear people talking in another building and he
goes he was watching them through the window
They were far away and he could hear them talking in his head. I was like, what
the fuck?
I bet you I bet you he couldn't hear what they were saying. I bet he was I bet
you he was making up their words
I think he tapped in
I think he tapped in to the quantum field. Yeah
And he was inside their head like like the alien technology just instantaneous
transport doesn't have to go through sound
Just pick up on the frequency of their thoughts
Yeah, all drugs would be legal whatever it's your body
Exactly if alcohol is legal and I think it should be it's one of the worst ones
for you if that shit's legal
How many people every year the president of columbia was like he was like
alcohol is worse than cocaine. It was a quote hundred five years ago
He did say that. Oh no it was hunter biden. It was hunter biden. I think it's
actually true. I think it is true
Yeah, I think actual real cocaine in terms of like the actual like from the coca
tree disco shit
I'll tell you what's definitely better for you is coca leaves
Those people that live in like the alps they just chew on they chew on coca
leaves. That's like in
Like high mountainous areas high altitude herders. They chew coca leaves. Yeah,
they love that shit
I'm sure it's supposed to be really good. It's supposed to be like great coffee
Yeah, for real. It's like not supposed to be like you're on coke. It's supposed
to be like
You're you feel energized and stimulated and it's not bad for you, but it fucks
your teeth up. Oh, I'm sure
You get these dudes with this rotten cocaine chew teeth
You ever seen it? No, I haven't find me some coca leaf teeth pictures
Yeah, ask perplexity about this condition and why why the people get coca leaf
tea?
face
Because it does it rots your teeth the way it looks like
But that should be legal to just brush your fucking teeth
Yeah, maybe not though
Maybe it eats your teeth because you got to think about if you can make cocaine
out of it
What kind of acid stuff is in that leaves? No, it's just a leaf, right?
Something else is coming up. Oh
Nuts or something. Oh my god betel nuts. What is a betel nut?
So it doesn't fuck them up from coca leaves. Oh even better
Bolivia legalizes chewing it click on that link nbc news to the right of that
Yeah, look at that bolivia legalizes chewing and ingesting coca leaves bolivia
wins
They're ahead of us
They win the real problem with it is fentanyl
And the fact that you have to get it from a fucking coke dealer. Yeah, those
are the real problems
Having to talk to a coke dealer is actually the worst part of the entire
process pope plans to chew cocoa leaves during bolivia visit
Jesus christ the pope's dead now they killed him because he wanted to chew the
cocoa leaves. That's a 2015 article
That's wild dude because it is weird that I mean is cocaine worse than alcohol
because if it's not why
Why is alcohol the one that's legal?
Says he specifically requested to chew it
Wow, what a freak. Yeah, it's uh. Duncan trussell has a great joke about adderall.
Oh, yeah
He goes adderalls like someone did cocaine and went
I can fix this
That's a great joke
I think I mean i've never done adderall either for the same reason that i've
never done coke like fuck
It just seems too good. Seems like it gets you too jazzed up. I mean, I had
like debilitating. I still have debilitating adhd
I haven't done adderall and what does that mean though?
um
So I get like uh
I get anxiety if I if I look at my mail on my kitchen counter right now
There's a pile this high of mail. Mm-hmm
If I look at it like I feel like because you're not doing the work, you're not
look going through your mail
It's just a crippling depression. It feels like
Like if I do my taxes like I have a business manager that does all this shit
But when I had to do it myself, it would like cripple me
I would like I would feel like I've had depression issues back in the day
I felt like depression. I feel like I want to lie down when I literally when I
just look at the mail on my counter
They call it um
ADHD paralysis where there's things that you don't like to do and the tedious
little tasks right um
That it feels like really like school work was like really bad for me
That was really really hard
But on the flip side if there's something you really love do you have a lot of
attention to it a lot of energy
I dive in
To like I obsess over it. So like I I love the things that I do. I love work
Like I really love what I do for a living
I do a bunch of things really
But like I love work. I love getting on business meetings. I love taking a
phone call
I love you know, I love writing jokes. I love going on the road
I like so the things that I love to do
I dive completely into and I just sort of see that's where it's stupid to me
that that's a disease
Right, that seems like you're allergic to boring shit. I
Don't think that's a disease. I think modern society has got people convinced.
That's a disease. I think that there are yes
I think most people don't want to fold their laundry
I think most people don't want to do their taxes or go through their mail most
but for me
It hits me in a way where like I feel a physical like recoil like I genuinely
like allergic to boring shit
I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I think they've got you tricked
They've got all of us tricked. Yeah, everybody that I know and me included that
probably has adhd or if I think I can go to a doctor
They would figure out something wrong with me
They'd say there's something wrong with you
You could have got on pills when you were a kid and it would have ruined all of
it
Yeah, it would have fucked up that weird gift that you have where you can lock
in
So what's the flip side of that weird gift the other thing doesn't seem
important right other shit is boring
But you have way more energy for the thing that's exciting. It's a great point.
It's a superpower. Yeah, it's a great point
And I by the way, I've said that specifically that my adhd is a superpower in
certain regards
The fact that I could get so locked in on the things that I really really want
to do
But I've never really considered the fact that like it's making me avoid doing
the things that just are fucking
Tedious whatever and by the way, I figured it out. I still went down the path.
I'm 44 years old
I get my shit done. I still the laundry gets folded the taxes. Yeah, it's just
boring. Yeah, yeah
That's discipline. That's all I was gonna say the discipline part is like that
some people can't right or like how does it get done that?
You know, I mean I was like we're like a really bad student
Like I just skin in my teeth graduated
Stand but the idea that this gift that you have is what doesn't get
concentrated on
The gift is you have an extraordinary amount of energy that you can devote to
something you really love
Most people wish they had that that's the gift
The flip side of it of course the other things aren't even remotely interesting
Because you need to be stimulated in order to give something all of your
attention
Some people could just drone on and drone on and they don't have adhd that
doesn't that's not good
Yeah, I think adhd is good for you. It made growing up pretty tough like
because you get pegged you get you get called a bad kid
I didn't get good grades
I'm a millionaire and I had bad grades when I was 12
You're right you're not wrong. No, you're not wrong dog. I know I'm right. You're
right
All right, let's wrap this bitch up. Uh, I gotta get out of here. So
Gas Digital
What else tell everybody? Skankfest on sale today. Oh, shit 4:20. What a good
time to sell
Yeah, is it 4:21 the on sale today or tomorrow? They're on sale today
Yes, this comes out tomorrow. So yesterday they went on this podcast yesterday
because those bitches those tickets go quick
They go fast. So the all-access passes if I had a guess are pretty close to
sold out
But you can still get single day passes. Well, I bet the skankers already know.
What do you call your people? Skanks. Skanks? The skanks already know
Yeah, we got a big one. That's amazing, dude
Congratulations on all this because every comic always agrees that it is
absolutely the best festival. They fucking love it
They love the vibe. They love, you know, how much effort and time you guys put
into it. It's awesome, dude
Congratulations. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah, but it's gonna be
it's gonna be you should come one day, Joe
I will come one day. Skankfest.com
Skankfest.com and uh, yeah get those tickets. Shane's gonna be there. Mark
Norman, Eric Andre
Sounds great. Everybody. I mean 170 comics. Everybody loves it. All right.
Thank you. It was fun. Thank you. All right. Bye everybody
Thank you.