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Donnell Rawlings

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Donnell Rawlings is a stand-up comic and actor. Catch his new special, "Chappelle’s Home Team – Donnell Rawlings: A New Day,” on Netflix. www.donnellrawlings.com

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0:09Digestive issues with red meat, aging habits, and nicotine/cigarette effects
9:59Menthol cigarettes, targeted marketing, and prison economy (plus an AG1 ad break)
19:58Sugar, diet misinformation, and religion as belief systems (Bible translation, megachurches, and scams)

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0:00

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

0:03

The Joe Rogan experience.

0:05

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

0:09

Really?

0:12

Red meat?

0:13

It's unfortunate.

0:14

In any form?

0:15

You know, like, I know it's weird.

0:19

If I eat a burger, it's different if I eat a steak.

0:23

Steak is a problem?

0:24

Yeah, I don't know if my digestive system,

0:27

just like you two older fucking bust this down.

0:31

I'm 58.

0:31

I'm 58 too.

0:33

I eat mostly meat.

0:34

I don't think it's age.

0:35

What is it then?

0:37

Well, what are you eating it with?

0:39

Tito's.

0:42

We're rolling?

0:43

Tito's.

0:44

Tito's vodka?

0:45

It can't be that, right?

0:47

No.

0:47

I'm eating a steak and I wash it down.

0:50

You just eat steak with Tito's?

0:53

And I wash it down with Tito's and tonic

0:55

because it resembles H2O so much.

0:57

Sometime I get thrown off until I do it.

0:59

What?

0:59

Yeah, I think I'm better aged.

1:01

Tito's and tonic resembles water?

1:03

The look of it.

1:04

The look of it.

1:05

It's clear.

1:05

That's all that matters to you?

1:06

Yeah.

1:07

I know at some point I need to change my life.

1:12

I'm at the age now that it's like I look at certain food

1:15

and I'm like, oh my God, it looks good,

1:17

but you know you can't handle that.

1:18

I think this is when I really, really need to be in love

1:22

because I need to be with somebody that understands

1:25

when I go places and when I want to pig out,

1:27

they got to be like, he can't eat that.

1:28

He's going to be in the seat.

1:30

Oh, right.

1:30

He's going to sit up.

1:31

He's going to be thrown up.

1:32

You need a female handler.

1:33

A female handler.

1:34

They call it geriatric, like this is where I hear.

1:39

This is what the streets are saying.

1:42

Most men get to an age, it's the geriatric shit

1:45

where you just smash all the women you want to do

1:47

and everything.

1:48

Now you're going to have to worry about somebody

1:50

helping you with your pill diet,

1:51

helping you with your dietary needs and everything.

1:54

And they say that's a lot of times when men fall in love,

1:56

when they need somebody to take them to the golden ears.

1:59

Oh, when you're about to be out of here,

2:00

you need somebody to say, don't do that.

2:02

You got to mash this food up.

2:03

You got to chop it up.

2:04

But I'm having digestive issues sometimes.

2:06

With steak, huh?

2:07

It's red meat, I want to say.

2:09

And I'm a fan of it.

2:11

So if you eat like a bowl of pasta with the Tito's,

2:14

no problem?

2:15

That's not a problem.

2:16

Interesting.

2:17

But it's definitely red meat.

2:19

Red meat, I'm not sleeping.

2:20

You should go to one of those doctors

2:22

that checks people for allergies.

2:24

Voodoo doctor?

2:25

Yeah.

2:25

I don't want one of them to sound like that.

2:28

I had to date an Asian.

2:29

I mean, I had to date a Haitian chick.

2:31

They enter voodoo really, really better.

2:34

Oh, yeah.

2:34

Oh, yeah.

2:35

They stab you with pillows and shit.

2:36

You have pain in your neck.

2:40

Is there any particular reason, Joe,

2:42

and I haven't been here in a while.

2:43

Is there any particular reason

2:45

why I am doing your show

2:47

during Black History Month?

2:48

No.

2:49

You asked to come on.

2:50

You reached out to me.

2:53

I reached out to you.

2:54

You could have reached out to me in July.

2:56

I would have said yes.

2:57

I could have.

2:57

You got an open invitation.

2:58

You know that.

2:59

I have an open invitation.

3:00

But this is when,

3:01

I don't know,

3:02

I say, can I come through?

3:03

You said,

3:03

this is what you told me.

3:04

You said,

3:05

I have a guest.

3:05

And then you called back.

3:07

I don't know if Jamie said,

3:09

you know what month this is.

3:10

Right?

3:11

I don't know if he entered you.

3:12

And you called me right back.

3:13

I moved somebody.

3:14

I moved somebody for you

3:15

because I knew you were coming here

3:16

on a Monday.

3:17

I had someone booked.

3:18

Was it a Caucasian person?

3:19

I don't know.

3:20

I don't remember.

3:21

Jamie?

3:21

I don't remember.

3:22

You know it was a white man

3:23

or a black man.

3:24

No, you know what?

3:24

Did I get,

3:25

did I bump a white person for black?

3:26

It might have been

3:27

Michael Jai White

3:28

because he's here tomorrow.

3:29

Yeah.

3:29

So it was probably Michael.

3:31

I just probably moved him a day.

3:33

But I appreciate you

3:34

being accommodating

3:34

because I felt like

3:35

it was time for me to come back.

3:36

I haven't been here a while.

3:37

You can come on anytime.

3:38

I really appreciate that.

3:39

Whenever you're in town.

3:40

I hold that to be true.

3:41

Come on.

3:41

I know that's true too.

3:42

You know I love you.

3:43

Yeah.

3:43

I want some of that gum too, man.

3:45

I'm sorry.

3:45

The neuro gum?

3:46

Do we have any, Jamie?

3:47

I have some, yeah.

3:48

Yeah, that stuff's the shoot.

3:49

I know.

3:50

Whenever you say something,

3:51

it's the shit, it's the shit.

3:52

Yeah.

3:52

But what can I do about my,

3:53

I can't do anything about my diet.

3:54

Sorry.

3:55

Whoops.

3:55

I hit the mic.

3:56

Yeah, you can.

3:58

You just, you know,

4:00

you should go to a doctor

4:02

and find out if there's like,

4:03

there might be something

4:04

particularly about you

4:05

that red meat

4:07

doesn't agree with you.

4:08

But it might just be

4:09

what you're eating

4:10

with the red meat

4:11

more than the red meat itself.

4:12

You know?

4:13

That's what I would imagine.

4:14

I would imagine

4:16

it's not actually red meat.

4:17

I would imagine

4:18

it's what you're eating with it.

4:20

Might be.

4:21

And I'm going to check into it.

4:23

Because as they say in the streets,

4:25

I'm of that big age

4:27

when you have to be considerate

4:28

of a whole bunch of things.

4:29

So that's what I have to do.

4:30

I have to do that.

4:31

Do you exercise at all?

4:32

A little bit.

4:33

Usually doing sexual intercourse

4:35

is when I get most of my cardio.

4:37

Get your push-ups in?

4:38

Yeah.

4:39

And it's not as strong.

4:40

Damn, man.

4:41

You have to get,

4:43

I don't know if this

4:44

apply to everybody.

4:45

You get to an age

4:46

where you start looking

4:47

at your history

4:48

and you're like,

4:49

damn, 2000,

4:50

what was my best years?

4:51

Like right now,

4:52

I'll just give up.

4:53

You give up.

4:54

I don't put no pressure in it.

4:56

I give up.

4:57

I start asking like,

4:58

what's your shoe size is

4:59

or whatever.

4:59

I'd rather go shopping

5:00

than to really try to

5:02

pound somebody out

5:03

for three hours.

5:04

I'm at that age now

5:05

where I have,

5:06

I call it,

5:07

certain times,

5:10

like,

5:10

you gonna get to work?

5:11

I probably shouldn't

5:12

give you that gum.

5:13

That gum's gonna be

5:14

a real problem

5:15

on the microphone.

5:15

Is it?

5:16

Oh, okay.

5:17

People are gonna get annoyed

5:19

with you.

5:20

All right.

5:20

I don't know what to do.

5:21

Just chew it a little

5:23

and spit it out.

5:23

Okay.

5:24

You'll get the effects

5:25

of it pretty quickly anyway.

5:26

I'm at the age

5:28

where my best work

5:29

is like holidays.

5:30

Holidays.

5:32

I'm an animal.

5:34

Why don't you hire a trainer?

5:36

You got some money.

5:38

And what are the trainers

5:40

gonna do?

5:40

Get you in shape.

5:41

I think I need a therapist

5:42

before I get a trainer.

5:43

I mean,

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you gotta take one step

5:46

at a time.

5:46

I gotta get my mind right

5:47

before I get my body right.

5:48

Wouldn't you agree?

5:49

No.

5:49

Getting your body right

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will help get your mind right.

5:52

I think that's some truth to that.

5:53

I think that you may be

5:56

right about that.

5:56

Oh, 100%.

5:57

Getting your body right

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fixes your mind.

6:00

Without a doubt.

6:01

But I will say,

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I'm at my best.

6:03

I'm at my peak

6:03

when it's a holiday

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to celebrate.

6:05

Because you're rested.

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I'm rested.

6:07

It's more incentive.

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Like,

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if you want me

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to really smash

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good time,

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consider it like

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Valentine's Day,

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Christmas,

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Kwanzaa.

6:19

You can get seven good days.

6:20

But to expect me

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to be at my best

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on just a regular Tuesday

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or a Wednesday

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is not gonna happen.

6:27

I need more incentive.

6:28

Well, it's also drinking.

6:29

You like to drink.

6:30

Why would you say that?

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I know why you would say that.

6:32

Come on, I've seen you.

6:33

All right.

6:34

I've been with you.

6:35

I've drank with you.

6:36

Okay, then that's a good point.

6:37

All right.

6:38

There's cigarettes.

6:39

You was there.

6:40

You brought a pack with you.

6:41

Right?

6:42

There's that.

6:43

Those are not good.

6:45

But you used to smoke.

6:47

I saw one of your podcasts.

6:48

I forget how you explained

6:52

what made you

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not want to smoke anymore.

6:55

What was that?

6:55

Well,

6:56

cigarettes are

6:58

a cognitive enhancer.

6:59

They are.

7:00

It's a fact.

7:00

Nicotine is a cognitive enhancer.

7:03

There's no doubt about it.

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It's a fact.

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And it does things

7:06

to your mind.

7:07

It stimulates your mind

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in a way

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that very few other things do.

7:11

That's why

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a lot of intellectuals,

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a lot of professors

7:14

use nicotine.

7:15

A lot of academics

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use nicotine.

7:18

A lot of people

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that rely on their brain

7:20

use it.

7:20

A lot of writers

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use nicotine.

7:22

And there's different

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delivery methods

7:24

that have different effects.

7:25

Unfortunately,

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smoking has a very potent

7:27

instantaneous effect.

7:28

And that's why people like it.

7:31

But it comes with a cost.

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Right.

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The physical health,

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you know,

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repercussions of cigarettes

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are well known.

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Yeah.

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Not good.

7:39

And also,

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you're smoking Marlboro's.

7:41

We had a doctor

7:42

on the other day

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that thinks that

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regular cigarettes

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are not nearly,

7:48

like American spirits

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are not nearly as bad

7:50

for you as these.

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I understand that

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they have some type of,

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the American spirits,

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I'm not even,

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like, advocating

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for what you shouldn't smoke.

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But they say

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that's supposed to be

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the most natural

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if there's such a thing.

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It's just tobacco,

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I believe.

8:03

Is that a fact?

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Nope.

8:05

No?

8:05

What's in there

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besides tobacco?

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I don't know.

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I've been trying.

8:07

I don't know

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how this lawsuit ended up,

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but they got sued

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for the advertising

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of saying

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it's additive free

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and all that.

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Oh, did they?

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Yeah.

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What are the additives?

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I've not decided.

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Well, let's look into it.

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I've tried to look.

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I mean, there's a big,

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here's, like,

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the website

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about the lawsuit.

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What's the accusation?

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That, uh,

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here you go.

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It's on the screen.

8:26

Here we go.

8:27

Lawsuit questions

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natural claims.

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Natural American spirit

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cigarettes are made

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by Santa Fe

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natural tobacco company

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and parent company

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Reynolds America.

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R.J. Reynolds,

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they fuck with you.

8:38

American spirits

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has been sold

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in the U.S.

8:40

since 1985,

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under the original name,

8:43

Original American Spirit.

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Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh.

8:45

Organic.

8:46

Oh, you got us.

8:47

You fucks.

8:48

Um,

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unadulterated tobacco.

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Sue claims

8:52

such marketing language

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has endeared

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American spirit cigarettes

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to a core group

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of smokers

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who believe

8:56

that the natural tobacco

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in the cigarette

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makes them

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a healthier alternative.

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Despite cigarette sales

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declining 17%

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between 2009-2014,

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American spirit sales

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have increased

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86%

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over the same period.

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Huzzah.

9:10

A regulatory filing

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on the Reynolds

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American website

9:14

states,

9:14

American spirit

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is the leading

9:15

super premium cigarette brand

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that is a top 10

9:18

best-selling cigarette brand

9:19

priced higher

9:20

than most other

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competitive brands

9:21

and is differentiated

9:22

from key competitors

9:23

through its use

9:24

of all-natural

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additive-free tobacco

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including styles

9:28

made with organic tobacco.

9:29

But words like

9:30

all-natural

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and additive-free

9:32

on American spirits

9:33

labeling

9:33

the suit says

9:34

belies the fact

9:35

that Santa Fe

9:36

Reynolds adds

9:38

ammonia

9:39

to their cigarettes

9:40

to maximize

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the amount of nicotine

9:42

a smoker receives

9:43

with the result

9:44

that American spirits

9:45

contain significantly

9:46

more free-based nicotine

9:47

than other major

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cigarette brands.

9:49

So you're actually

9:50

getting high off

9:51

of cigarettes?

9:52

100%.

9:53

I get high off them

9:54

because I don't

9:54

smoke them all the time.

9:55

So I only smoke

9:56

if I smoke

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a couple cigarettes a week

9:58

it's a lot.

9:59

And Newport's

10:00

probably like

10:01

10 times worse

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than menthol cigarettes

10:03

probably 10 times

10:04

worse for your body.

10:06

I was talking

10:06

to Cat about that.

10:07

Cat Williams?

10:08

Yeah, I was asking him

10:09

like why

10:09

do you like menthols?

10:11

And he's like

10:12

he was speaking

10:14

on behalf

10:14

of the black community.

10:15

He said

10:16

we like things

10:17

that are more potent.

10:18

I believe

10:20

that that's

10:20

possible part of it

10:21

but I also believe

10:22

that back in the day

10:23

and this supply

10:23

I don't know

10:24

if I talk about this

10:24

it was certain brands

10:26

that targeted

10:26

certain communities

10:27

just for the loyalty

10:28

of it.

10:29

And I think

10:30

Newport's was targeting

10:31

I don't know

10:31

if it was a situation

10:32

when Newport came out

10:33

they were spending

10:34

more ad money

10:35

with advertising

10:36

and everything

10:36

because I don't know

10:37

if I shared this story

10:38

with you

10:38

but Pepsi

10:40

was a company

10:41

that did that

10:42

where they targeted

10:42

the black community

10:43

so I think

10:44

even though

10:45

I understand

10:45

we said more potent

10:46

but I think

10:47

it was something

10:47

that was in our community

10:49

whether that was

10:50

like cheaper prices

10:51

or whatever

10:51

and I think

10:52

it's generation

10:52

and generation

10:53

like you need

10:54

to do this

10:54

because black people

10:55

did this

10:55

because it was cheaper

10:56

I think

10:56

that that might

10:57

be the case

10:57

with Newport

10:58

probably both

10:58

what is the

10:59

the menthol effect

11:01

what is the

11:02

what is the difference

11:03

in the way

11:04

when I smoke menthol

11:05

I sound like

11:06

Cat Williams

11:06

and that's

11:07

they've ruined

11:08

that's one of the reasons

11:09

I had to downgrade

11:10

to like

11:10

some people think

11:11

that I started

11:12

smoking Marlboro Lights

11:13

because I started

11:13

dating white women

11:14

which is more

11:15

appealing

11:16

unless you date

11:17

a white woman

11:18

from the midwest

11:18

then she probably

11:19

smoking Newports

11:20

and drinking Pepsis

11:21

and Coca-Cola

11:21

just like you

11:22

but I got so many

11:25

bad habits

11:29

that I need to change

11:31

here we go

11:32

our sponsor

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11:34

perplexity says

11:35

the menthol affected

11:36

cigarettes come from

11:36

the chemical menthol

11:37

itself which is added

11:38

as a flavoring

11:39

and a sensory agent

11:40

to the tobacco

11:41

menthol is naturally

11:42

found in peppermint

11:43

and other mint plants

11:44

can also be made

11:45

synthetically in a lab

11:46

menthol activates

11:48

cold sensitive

11:48

nerve receptors

11:49

in the mouth

11:50

throat and airways

11:51

creating a cooling

11:52

sensation

11:52

when you inhale smoke

11:54

it's a mild

11:55

anesthetic

11:57

numbing effect

11:58

that reduces pain

11:59

and irritation

12:00

from hot harsh

12:01

cigarette smoke

12:01

making it feel

12:02

smoother

12:03

menthol can suppress

12:04

the cough reflex

12:05

and dull early

12:06

warning signs

12:09

of airway irritation

12:11

which make it easier

12:12

to inhale more deeply

12:13

and more often

12:14

menthol reduces

12:16

the perceived harshness

12:17

of nicotine

12:18

and smoke

12:18

the minty taste

12:20

and smell

12:21

and smell

12:21

plus the cooling

12:21

feel act

12:22

as a pleasant

12:23

sensory cues

12:24

that many smokers

12:25

come to associate

12:26

with satisfaction

12:27

and craving

12:27

menthol can alter

12:29

nicotine metabolism

12:30

and the way nicotine

12:31

acts on brain

12:32

receptors

12:32

which may increase

12:34

nicotine's

12:35

reinforcing addictive

12:36

effects

12:36

in short

12:37

the menthol effect

12:38

is not from nicotine

12:39

but from added menthol

12:40

which cools

12:41

and numbs the airways

12:42

masks irritation

12:43

and can make cigarettes

12:45

feel smoother

12:45

and more addictive

12:47

without making them

12:48

many safer

12:49

so menthol cigarettes

12:50

appeal to black people

12:52

because it's a cool cigarette

12:54

it's cool

12:55

that's what

12:55

it makes so much sense

12:57

why the brand

12:57

cool cigarette

12:58

because it makes

12:59

that makes sense

13:00

that's why they called

13:01

it cool I bet

13:01

damn what white people

13:02

do to destroy

13:03

my community

13:04

man

13:04

destroy everybody

13:05

yeah

13:06

they don't give a fuck

13:07

about anybody

13:07

cool ain't cool

13:08

half ain't wide

13:10

body ain't soul

13:12

mild ain't bold

13:13

cool ain't cool

13:15

newport is

13:16

oh

13:17

because that was like

13:18

a take on cools

13:19

because people used

13:20

to smoke cools

13:21

do cools exist anymore

13:22

in jail

13:23

only in jail

13:24

I think that

13:25

I don't know

13:26

what the ratio

13:28

what cigarette

13:30

gives you more money

13:31

in a dice game

13:32

but whenever I hear

13:33

people telling war stories

13:34

they like

13:35

man

13:35

I got a pack

13:37

I got a carton of cools

13:38

for a bag of Doritos

13:39

or something

13:39

but the value

13:41

of a cool cigarette

13:42

is higher

13:43

in prison

13:44

isn't it crazy

13:45

that they give you

13:46

cigarettes in prison

13:47

that's crazy

13:48

it's like the only drug

13:49

you can get in prison

13:50

yeah and those

13:50

you can't get alcohol

13:51

right

13:52

well you can get hooch

13:54

well you can't get alcohol

13:55

but they make their own

13:56

but it's all

13:57

under the table

13:59

yeah

13:59

but I think

14:00

in prison

14:01

the things that hold

14:03

the most value

14:04

I think it's

14:05

tang

14:06

right

14:08

it's that

14:08

artificial

14:09

flavored

14:10

drink you do

14:11

I think that

14:12

it's

14:12

astronaut shit

14:13

yep

14:13

cigarettes

14:14

Doritos

14:15

I heard honey buns

14:17

hold the value

14:19

and I heard candy bar

14:20

but candy bars

14:21

you gotta be particular

14:22

with that

14:23

because if you offer

14:24

this is what I hear

14:25

if you offer a person

14:27

a certain amount

14:28

of candy bars

14:29

then what I understand

14:31

is that you're inviting

14:32

them to have sexual

14:32

intercourse with you

14:33

interesting

14:34

yeah

14:34

candy bars

14:35

yeah

14:36

like you

14:36

I don't think

14:37

do you want some candy bars

14:38

and that's like code

14:39

yeah

14:39

it's like

14:40

like pizza gate

14:40

like pizza

14:41

mr. good bar

14:42

for this good bar

14:43

oh okay

14:44

I think

14:44

this is only

14:45

not that I've had

14:46

those experiences Joe

14:47

but this is the times

14:48

that I frequent

14:49

the streets

14:49

which aren't anymore

14:51

not too often

14:52

these are the stories

14:53

that they tell

14:54

interesting

14:55

yeah

14:55

and these facts

14:56

you don't need them

14:58

for anything

14:58

but for barbershop talk

15:00

but these are the

15:01

conversations that I have

15:02

that I've heard people have

15:04

it's interesting

15:04

how different brands

15:06

market to different people

15:07

and I mean

15:09

how do they figure it out

15:10

like what do they work

15:11

like

15:12

that's where it's evil

15:14

right

15:15

like advertising itself

15:16

I don't have a problem with

15:18

but I

15:19

there is something weird

15:21

about deceptive advertising

15:24

that's legal

15:25

you know

15:25

well they do

15:26

a history

15:28

on what

15:28

people like

15:30

I was watching

15:30

or reading a story

15:31

about

15:32

the people

15:33

that started

15:34

Forever 21

15:35

I forget what the brand was

15:36

it was some Koreans

15:37

from South Korea

15:38

not to be confused

15:39

with Kim Jong Un

15:40

and those people

15:41

but they were tailors

15:43

of something

15:43

they started a small boutique

15:45

and what they would do

15:46

was they would have

15:47

these clothing

15:48

pieces of clothes

15:50

and they would

15:50

really pay

15:52

particular attention

15:53

to what colors

15:55

people like

15:56

what was

15:57

selling the most

15:59

whatever

15:59

and that's what they buy

16:00

and one of the things

16:01

that made Forever 21

16:02

so popular

16:03

because they had

16:03

really

16:04

the clothes

16:05

weren't expensive

16:06

but they was

16:08

turning them over

16:08

so quick

16:09

you know

16:09

so people do

16:10

do case studies

16:12

and see what people

16:12

attracted to

16:14

I know

16:15

with

16:16

with black people

16:17

you put lemon pepper

16:19

on anything

16:20

it's going to go

16:21

out the roof

16:22

you can do

16:22

lemon pepper

16:23

chicken wings

16:24

lemon pepper

16:24

french fries

16:25

anything lemon pepper

16:26

they're going to go

16:27

I don't know

16:27

who started

16:28

the whole lemon pepper

16:29

craze

16:29

but you lemon pepper

16:31

anything

16:31

black people

16:31

are going to buy it

16:32

that's interesting

16:33

how white people

16:34

are associated

16:34

with very bland foods

16:36

you know

16:38

macaroni cheese

16:39

mashed potatoes

16:41

mayonnaise

16:41

and you know why

16:42

you're connected

16:43

with that blandness

16:43

because of the way

16:44

you pronounced it

16:45

macaroni and cheese

16:47

you'd never

16:47

ever

16:48

say

16:49

if you tell somebody

16:51

if you say

16:51

and you would be able

16:53

to be invited

16:54

to the cookout

16:54

Joe

16:54

you know

16:55

people like you

16:56

if you say

16:58

hey guys

16:59

I'm coming to the cookout

17:00

right

17:01

and I'm bringing

17:02

macaroni and cheese

17:04

you're going to get

17:05

uninvited to the cookout

17:06

how should I say

17:07

mac and cheese

17:08

mac and cheese

17:09

yeah you can't say

17:10

macaroni and cheese

17:11

nobody ever does that

17:12

they would look at you

17:14

as a spy

17:15

you would get invited

17:16

and be uninvited

17:17

well I'm a different

17:18

type of white person

17:19

because I'm Italian

17:19

and we're associated

17:20

with spicy food

17:21

very strong flavors

17:23

yeah but

17:25

it's a different

17:25

like Italian people

17:27

don't like bland food

17:28

they like very spicy

17:29

very flavorful food

17:31

you're not going to say

17:31

I'm bringing

17:31

baked ziti

17:32

to the barbecue

17:33

you'd be like

17:34

I'm bringing ziti

17:34

right

17:35

yeah I would say

17:36

baked ziti

17:37

yeah because there's

17:37

different kinds of ziti

17:38

you know

17:39

there's ziti that you bake

17:40

and then the ziti

17:41

that you just boil

17:41

and put you know

17:42

marinara sauce on

17:43

there's different kinds of ziti

17:45

but I will say this

17:45

as much as you know

17:47

community make fun of

17:49

white people

17:51

and their lack of seasoning

17:53

that can save your life

17:56

lack of seasoning

17:57

can save your life

17:58

yeah

17:58

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you look at somebody

18:01

one of the most

18:02

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18:03

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that's in everything

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salt is an essential mineral

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you need salt

19:30

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19:31

salt is not the problem

19:32

they associate salt

19:33

with high blood pressure

19:34

salt with this

19:35

it's not true

19:36

it's bullshit

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what type of salt

19:39

is it different salt

19:39

is it like

19:40

no

19:40

salt's not bad for you

19:42

well first of all

19:43

there's iodized salt

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which is actually good for you

19:45

because it contains iodine

19:47

they add iodine to it

19:48

which is good for you

19:49

but salt is not a bad thing

19:52

I mean you shouldn't have

19:53

too much salt

19:54

look if you eat enough salt

19:56

Joe you can't be the president

19:57

to educate me with this

19:58

so all of these years

20:00

it's a

20:01

these people getting

20:02

their toes chopped off

20:03

that's not why

20:05

that's not why

20:06

if you're getting diabetes

20:07

it's usually from sugar

20:08

okay

20:09

you know there's been a lot

20:10

of misinformation

20:11

that's spread

20:12

because of

20:14

actual scientists

20:15

that were bribed

20:17

by the sugar industry

20:19

so the sugar industry

20:20

they paid a bunch

20:21

of Harvard scientists

20:22

it was Harvard right

20:23

I believe it was

20:25

they didn't even give them

20:26

a lot of money

20:26

was it the 1950s

20:28

or 1960s Jamie

20:29

do you remember

20:29

so this has all been

20:32

outed now

20:33

but what they did was

20:34

they tried to associate

20:36

saturated fat

20:37

and foods with saturated fat

20:40

with being responsible

20:41

for heart disease

20:41

and they did that

20:43

to try to get the blame

20:44

off of sugar

20:45

because sugar

20:46

is fucking terrible for you

20:48

it's terrible

20:48

in basically every way

20:50

especially added sugar

20:51

so why are all of these

20:52

diseases that we speak of

20:53

are more

20:54

more

20:55

happening

20:57

in the black community

20:59

than in the white community

21:00

it's diet

21:00

it's 100%

21:02

it's sugar

21:02

processed food

21:03

it's diet

21:04

it's sugar

21:05

it's sugary drinks

21:07

it's the amount of sugar

21:08

like if you

21:09

say if you drink

21:10

like a

21:10

one liter Pepsi

21:12

the amount of sugar

21:14

that is

21:14

okay let's find that out

21:15

how much sugar

21:16

is in a one liter Pepsi

21:17

if you drink several

21:19

these a day

21:20

one of them

21:21

I believe

21:21

is more sugar

21:22

than you're ever

21:22

supposed to have

21:23

in a day

21:23

Pepsi

21:24

is the one

21:25

and that's why

21:25

well it could be

21:26

Coca-Cola

21:26

could be Pepsi

21:27

Mountain Dew

21:28

pick your poison

21:29

I think it's 100%

21:31

Pepsi

21:31

well Pepsi

21:32

is I don't know

21:33

does Pepsi have more

21:34

sugar than Coca-Cola

21:35

I don't know

21:36

you know Coca-Cola

21:38

is one of the only

21:39

things that's still

21:40

flavored with

21:41

cocaine leaf

21:41

sugar content

21:43

115

21:44

123 grams

21:46

in a one liter

21:47

bottle

21:47

that's a crazy

21:49

amount of sugar

21:49

25 teaspoons

21:51

35 sugar cubes

21:53

god damn

21:54

that's 130%

21:56

138%

21:57

of the recommended

21:58

daily value

21:59

of sugar

21:59

that's

22:01

that's where

22:01

people are getting

22:02

type 2 diabetes

22:03

they're getting it

22:04

from excess sugar

22:04

specifically

22:05

excess sugar

22:07

like in a liquid

22:08

form

22:09

your body does

22:10

not know

22:10

what the fuck

22:11

to do with that

22:11

because nowhere

22:12

in nature

22:12

do you get

22:13

sugar in a liquid

22:14

form like that

22:15

like even

22:16

orange juice

22:17

like people think

22:17

orange juice

22:18

is good for you

22:19

it's not

22:19

like drinking

22:21

orange juice

22:21

yeah you're gonna

22:22

get some vitamin D

22:23

but you're also

22:23

gonna vitamin C

22:24

rather but you're

22:25

also gonna get

22:25

a gigantic dose

22:27

of sugar

22:28

that has no fiber

22:29

in it

22:29

but is it a different

22:30

type of sugar

22:31

in fruits and

22:31

vegetables than

22:32

what you get

22:32

off the counter

22:33

you get fructose

22:34

rather than

22:35

high fructose

22:36

corn syrup

22:37

you know

22:38

sugar from fruit

22:40

is the best sugar

22:41

for you

22:41

because it's

22:42

attached fiber

22:43

and that's

22:44

that's a slow

22:44

release sugar

22:45

like if you eat

22:46

an apple

22:46

and apples

22:47

aren't bad

22:47

for you

22:47

it's a natural

22:48

way that your

22:49

body consumes

22:49

sugar

22:50

but there's

22:50

apples were

22:51

bad for Adam

22:52

I don't even

22:54

know if it was

22:55

an apple

22:55

it was a fruit

22:56

it was a fruit

22:58

from the tree

22:58

of knowledge

22:59

the tree

23:00

it was an apple

23:00

it was an apple

23:03

but it wasn't

23:03

an apple tree

23:04

what specifically

23:05

does the bible

23:06

refer to

23:07

as the fruit

23:08

Adam and Eve

23:08

Adam

23:09

you know the truth

23:09

what

23:10

Eve never talked

23:12

to God

23:12

Adam talked

23:14

God

23:14

Adam told

23:15

God

23:16

not to

23:16

eat the fruit

23:17

there's nowhere

23:18

in the bible

23:19

does it say

23:19

that Adam

23:20

went and told

23:21

Eve

23:21

this is why

23:22

we should start

23:23

not just shutting

23:24

women down

23:24

to listening to

23:25

him

23:26

it all

23:28

starts

23:28

Genesis does not

23:29

specifically

23:30

specify rather

23:31

what kind of

23:32

fruit Adam ate

23:33

only that it

23:34

calls it fruit

23:34

from the tree

23:35

of knowledge

23:36

of good and evil

23:37

yeah so it's

23:38

not necessarily

23:39

an apple

23:40

we call it

23:41

an apple

23:41

the text

23:43

never names

23:44

the species

23:44

apple fig

23:46

etc

23:46

the Hebrew word

23:47

is peri

23:48

a general term

23:49

meaning fruit

23:49

without a botanical

23:50

detail

23:51

where the apple

23:52

idea came from

23:53

over time

23:54

Jewish and Christian

23:54

interpreters

23:55

proposed many

23:56

candidates

23:56

including fig

23:57

grape

23:58

pomegranate

23:59

citron

23:59

and others

24:00

now common

24:01

ideas that an

24:02

apple

24:02

developed later

24:03

in European

24:04

tradition

24:05

helped by

24:06

wordplay

24:07

in Latin

24:07

and Old

24:08

French

24:08

where the

24:08

words evil

24:09

and apple

24:10

or fruit

24:10

sounded

24:11

or were

24:12

spelled

24:12

similarly

24:13

so it's

24:14

not necessarily

24:14

an apple

24:15

I really don't

24:16

know what to

24:16

believe

24:17

but I feel

24:17

like I get

24:18

so much

24:18

more information

24:19

when I come

24:19

here

24:19

I don't know

24:21

if people

24:21

understand that

24:22

well the crazy

24:22

thing is that

24:23

I mean I

24:24

found this out

24:25

recently because

24:25

I've actually

24:26

been reading

24:26

the Bible

24:27

that there's

24:28

no reference

24:29

whatsoever

24:30

to Adam

24:31

telling Eve

24:32

you're not

24:33

supposed to eat

24:33

the fruit

24:34

from the plant

24:35

with the

24:36

knowledge of

24:37

good and evil

24:37

I never knew

24:38

that

24:39

yeah

24:39

I just knew

24:40

it was a white

24:41

woman with an

24:42

apple and his

24:43

shit got fucked

24:43

up after that

24:44

what happened

24:44

was God

24:45

created Adam

24:46

this is what

24:46

Genesis says

24:47

God created

24:47

Adam and then

24:48

told Adam

24:49

go and name

24:49

all the animals

24:50

and then

24:51

when he was

24:52

done with that

24:52

Adam made

24:53

Eve

24:53

but he never

24:55

said

24:56

it never

24:57

says in the

24:58

Bible

24:58

Adam told

24:59

Eve

24:59

do not

25:00

eat the

25:01

apple

25:01

who's

25:02

giving us

25:02

this misinformation

25:04

well

25:05

the problem

25:05

with the

25:05

Bible

25:06

is

25:07

first of all

25:08

that it was

25:08

an oral

25:09

tradition forever

25:10

so it was an

25:11

oral tradition

25:11

for a long time

25:13

before it was

25:13

ever written down

25:14

that it was

25:14

written down

25:15

in a bunch

25:15

of ancient

25:16

languages

25:16

it was written

25:17

down in

25:18

ancient Hebrew

25:18

it was written

25:19

down in

25:19

Aramaic

25:20

Aramaic

25:21

and then

25:21

when you

25:22

translate

25:23

ancient Hebrew

25:24

to

25:24

first

25:25

they translated

25:26

it to

25:26

Latin

25:26

and then

25:27

they translated

25:28

it to

25:28

Greek

25:29

and all

25:29

these

25:29

other

25:29

maybe

25:30

Greek

25:30

first

25:30

I forget

25:31

which one

25:31

was first

25:32

but either

25:32

way

25:32

the

25:33

translations

25:34

miss a lot

25:35

of the

25:36

language

25:37

it's a very

25:37

complicated

25:38

ancient Hebrew

25:39

is a very

25:39

complicated language

25:40

and numbers

25:42

double as letters

25:43

in ancient Hebrew

25:44

so ancient Hebrew

25:44

doesn't have

25:45

numbers

25:46

all their words

25:47

have a numerical

25:48

value to them

25:49

what do you think

25:49

makes people

25:51

so connected

25:52

to the Bible

25:54

is it because

25:56

of wanting

25:57

to believe

25:57

in something

25:58

in writing

25:59

definitely

26:00

wanting

26:00

to believe

26:01

in something

26:01

and then

26:02

specifically

26:03

if you look

26:04

at like

26:04

the teachings

26:05

of Jesus

26:05

Christ

26:06

if you follow

26:06

them

26:07

I think

26:07

it'll lead

26:08

to a better

26:09

life

26:09

I think

26:09

it makes

26:10

you a better

26:10

person

26:10

makes you

26:11

a better

26:11

member

26:11

of the

26:12

community

26:12

it reinforces

26:14

community

26:15

it's like

26:16

a really good

26:17

way to live

26:18

your life

26:18

so I think

26:19

the people

26:19

that live

26:20

that way

26:20

that actually

26:20

live that

26:21

way

26:21

they're better

26:22

examples

26:22

of human

26:23

beings

26:23

so that

26:24

makes it

26:25

reinforced

26:25

but it's

26:26

also people

26:27

there's a lot

26:28

of other

26:28

religions

26:28

that people

26:29

believe in

26:29

that don't

26:30

have those

26:30

aspects to

26:31

them

26:31

people want

26:32

to believe

26:33

things

26:33

people want

26:34

to believe

26:34

in things

26:34

even if

26:35

you like

26:35

like Scientology

26:36

people deeply

26:37

believe in

26:38

Scientology

26:38

and we know

26:39

it was written

26:40

by a science

26:41

fiction author

26:41

who was a bad

26:43

science fiction

26:43

author

26:44

L. Ron Hubbard

26:45

wrote some

26:45

terrible books

26:46

like that guy

26:47

would just bang

26:48

books out

26:48

he never rewrote

26:49

shit

26:49

everything was a

26:50

first draft

26:51

just clank

26:52

he wrote more

26:53

fiction than any

26:54

human being

26:54

that's ever lived

26:55

and they also

26:57

wrote Scientology

26:58

and people

26:58

believe in it

26:59

I do believe

26:59

I think people

27:01

like you say

27:02

people want

27:03

to if your

27:04

life is fucked

27:05

up

27:05

they want

27:05

to be able

27:06

to say

27:06

okay this

27:07

is my savior

27:07

if I believe

27:08

in this

27:08

it's going

27:09

to get me

27:09

on the right

27:09

track

27:10

100%

27:10

and then with

27:11

that

27:11

with these

27:12

like

27:12

Drewski

27:13

just did

27:13

a skit

27:14

that went

27:15

viral

27:15

right

27:15

and it

27:16

was like

27:16

he was

27:16

making fun

27:17

of the

27:17

megachurches

27:18

and everything

27:18

but these

27:20

churches

27:20

like they

27:21

give these

27:21

people

27:22

something to

27:23

believe in

27:24

make them feel

27:24

better

27:25

and they charge

27:25

people

27:26

do you think

27:26

that there should

27:27

be a separation

27:27

if I

27:28

inspire you

27:29

if my

27:30

writings

27:31

or my

27:31

speeches

27:32

inspire you

27:33

to want

27:33

to do

27:34

something

27:34

and change

27:35

your life

27:36

and be

27:36

more financially

27:38

secure

27:38

do you think

27:39

these people

27:39

entitled to

27:40

like okay

27:40

almost like

27:41

agencies

27:41

if I get

27:42

you to work

27:43

or get

27:43

you there

27:43

should you

27:43

hit me

27:44

off

27:44

or the

27:45

megachurches

27:45

is it so wrong

27:46

for people

27:47

just to pour

27:47

all their

27:47

money to them

27:48

or are they

27:49

giving these

27:49

people

27:50

something to

27:50

believe in

27:51

if that's

27:51

the case

27:51

do I

27:52

supposed to

27:52

get a piece

27:53

of that

27:53

I think

27:53

they're

27:54

preying

27:54

on people's

27:55

need to

27:55

believe in

27:56

things

27:56

and I

27:56

think

27:57

they're

27:57

very

27:57

predatory

27:58

and I

27:58

think

27:58

that's

27:59

why

27:59

they're

27:59

flying

27:59

private

28:00

jets

28:00

and driving

28:01

rolls-royces

28:01

and living

28:02

in mega

28:02

mansions

28:03

on giant

28:03

ranches

28:04

and they're

28:05

doing it

28:05

all off

28:06

of donations

28:06

of people

28:07

that are

28:07

barely getting

28:07

by

28:08

that's a

28:08

lot of

28:09

it

28:09

you know

28:09

I think

28:10

it's a

28:10

scam

28:11

that's

28:11

legal

28:11

I think

28:12

if we

28:13

were a

28:13

just

28:14

and righteous

28:14

society

28:15

it wouldn't

28:15

be legal

28:16

right

28:17

I mean

28:17

it's

28:18

you're

28:18

taking

28:18

advantage

28:19

of people

28:20

when

28:21

they need

28:22

something

28:22

to believe

28:23

in

28:23

and you're

28:23

asking

28:23

for

28:24

all their

28:24

money

28:25

like

28:25

I remember

28:26

I was

28:26

watching

28:26

this

28:27

guy

28:27

on TV

28:28

once

28:28

like

28:28

televangelists

28:30

are the

28:30

worst

28:30

and this

28:31

guy

28:31

was saying

28:32

that if

28:33

you are

28:33

broke

28:34

you should

28:34

borrow money

28:35

to donate

28:36

it to the

28:37

church

28:37

and it

28:37

will be

28:38

paid back

28:38

to you

28:39

tenfold

28:39

that God

28:41

will pay

28:41

you back

28:42

tenfold

28:42

and then

28:42

he had

28:43

all these

28:43

examples

28:43

of people

28:44

that did

28:44

it

28:45

and they

28:45

would call

28:45

in

28:45

and say

28:46

I was

28:47

a thousand

28:47

dollars

28:48

in debt

28:48

and this

28:48

and that

28:49

but I

28:49

borrowed

28:49

a hundred

28:50

dollars

28:50

and I

28:50

donated

28:51

it

28:51

to you

28:51

and now

28:51

all of a

28:52

sudden

28:52

I drive

28:52

a Rolls Royce

28:53

and it's

28:53

all horseshit

28:54

but those

28:55

are all

28:55

desperate

28:56

desperate people

28:57

desperate people

28:58

those are

28:58

the same

28:59

people that

28:59

I'm going to

29:00

spend $30

29:00

on the lottery

29:01

every day

29:02

for like

29:02

fucking 50 years

29:03

and don't know

29:04

how much

29:04

that's another scam

29:05

that's another scam

29:06

not only is that a scam

29:07

here's the scam

29:08

about the lottery

29:09

not only

29:10

does

29:11

like say

29:12

if everyone

29:12

pumps money

29:13

into the lottery

29:14

say you

29:14

you buy

29:15

a hundred dollars

29:16

worth of tickets

29:16

and Jamie buys

29:17

a hundred dollars

29:17

worth of tickets

29:18

and I buy a hundred

29:18

so there's

29:19

three hundred dollars

29:19

in the lottery

29:20

there's not even

29:21

three hundred dollars

29:22

available

29:23

if you win

29:24

so and then

29:25

if you win

29:26

you don't get

29:27

all the money

29:28

you get the money

29:29

over a long

29:30

period of time

29:32

but if you

29:33

if you take

29:33

the second option

29:34

it's a significantly

29:36

like here's a good

29:37

example of it

29:38

speaking of the

29:38

Epstein files

29:39

his company

29:41

Zorro Trust

29:43

I didn't like that

29:45

transition

29:45

you looked me

29:46

right in my eyes

29:47

and said

29:48

speaking of the

29:48

Epstein files

29:49

we were talking

29:49

about it

29:49

before the podcast

29:50

Epstein came to see you

29:52

no Epstein did not

29:53

fucking come to see me

29:54

they loved your show

29:54

yo

29:55

he was your

29:56

he was a number one fan

29:57

first of all

29:57

I never

29:59

he came to what

30:00

you don't know

30:02

look they came to

30:03

West Palm Improv

30:04

because you're a famous

30:05

comedian

30:05

and you were playing

30:06

in the town

30:07

where he lived

30:08

so what are you saying

30:09

nothing

30:10

but what I'm saying

30:11

is that

30:11

what I'm saying

30:13

is Epstein

30:14

won the lottery

30:15

his company

30:16

Zorro Trust

30:17

won an

30:17

$80 million

30:18

lottery

30:19

and then

30:20

they took the pay off

30:22

and the pay off

30:23

was only $30 million

30:24

from a ticket

30:24

or you mean

30:25

in corporation

30:26

what do you mean

30:28

when you say

30:28

his company

30:29

bought a ticket

30:30

for the lottery

30:31

oh really

30:31

yes

30:32

Zorro Trust

30:33

which is his company

30:34

they won the lottery

30:35

which is very suspicious

30:36

not only that

30:37

he won the lottery

30:38

right after he was arrested

30:39

and went to jail

30:40

for fucking kids

30:41

or having sex

30:42

or whatever

30:42

he was arrested for

30:44

sexual handjobs

30:45

whatever it was

30:46

there's nothing wrong

30:47

with sexual age

30:48

no but when they're

30:49

underage girls

30:50

probably not

30:50

oh I didn't know that

30:51

so then when he went

30:54

and got the lottery money

30:56

the company took the payoff

30:58

the payoff

30:59

out of an $80 million payment

31:01

the $80 million jackpot

31:02

was only $30 million

31:03

so if you want the money

31:05

you take $30

31:06

so not only did they take

31:07

$50 out of the $80

31:08

but then

31:09

you think about

31:10

how many people

31:11

spent money

31:12

buying lottery tickets

31:13

is way more than $80 million

31:15

so they make money

31:16

off of that

31:17

and then they make money

31:18

off of the fact

31:19

that you want the payoff

31:20

instead of the

31:21

you know

31:21

the over 30 years

31:23

so they never could

31:24

it doesn't matter

31:24

what the jackpot becomes

31:26

they never can lose

31:27

they can't lose

31:28

because they're stealing money

31:29

from people that are desperate

31:30

it's legalized gambling

31:32

where the house

31:33

always wins

31:34

right

31:34

like let's find that out

31:36

like let's say

31:37

let's find

31:39

an average jackpot

31:42

of mega bucks

31:43

and find out

31:44

how much money

31:45

actually goes

31:46

into it

31:47

how much

31:47

how much money

31:48

people spend

31:49

versus how much money

31:50

the payout is

31:51

so when this

31:51

all lottos

31:53

are state regulated

31:55

right

31:55

right

31:56

I don't know

31:57

I don't know who

31:58

regulates them

31:58

so they get

32:00

say

32:01

they get

32:03

$100 million

32:04

from people

32:04

trying to win

32:05

a billion dollars

32:06

it's because

32:07

it's state regulated

32:08

do they have to

32:09

pay taxes

32:10

to the government

32:11

for the money

32:11

the lotto

32:12

no

32:13

it's the state

32:14

or the government

32:15

owns it

32:16

so it's a

32:16

whatever the

32:17

not only that

32:18

you pay taxes on it

32:20

so say if you get that

32:21

yes

32:22

so say if you take

32:23

that $30 million

32:24

payout

32:24

you don't even get

32:25

$30 million

32:25

then you have to pay

32:26

taxes on that $30 million

32:28

so they get money

32:28

from that too

32:29

so they can't

32:30

fucking lose

32:31

but for a person

32:32

that's never seen

32:33

barely seen

32:34

$1,000 anywhere

32:35

anything with a million

32:37

they're going to be

32:37

excited about

32:38

and take it

32:38

before

32:38

exactly

32:39

and over time

32:41

most people

32:42

are not going to win

32:43

so most people

32:44

are dumping money

32:44

into it

32:45

there was a story

32:46

of a young lady

32:47

I don't know

32:48

exactly what it was

32:48

I think she won

32:49

some type of lottery

32:50

where they

32:51

gave her two options

32:53

she would get

32:53

I think it was like

32:54

a payout

32:56

of like $2 or $3 million

32:57

right up front

32:58

or they give her

33:00

I think it was like

33:01

$20,000

33:02

every month

33:03

for as long

33:04

as she lived

33:05

and she did

33:06

well people think

33:07

that it's kind of crazy

33:08

but if you consider

33:09

the fact

33:09

that she was probably

33:10

20, 21

33:11

her life expectancy

33:12

probably

33:12

she was white

33:13

so she probably

33:14

lived to 132

33:15

you know what I'm saying

33:17

she looked like

33:18

that was a smart

33:19

a lot of people

33:19

would not understand

33:20

that

33:20

that was a smart thing

33:21

I don't think

33:22

it's for the rest

33:23

of your life

33:24

I think it's until

33:25

it reaches that number

33:26

I don't think

33:28

they're going to

33:28

give you money

33:28

for the rest of your life

33:29

well maybe I was

33:30

reading the headline

33:30

maybe it's a different

33:31

kind of lottery

33:32

that I'm not aware of

33:33

maybe I think

33:34

it was something

33:34

as long as she lives

33:35

that sounds crazy

33:36

yeah

33:37

alright here it is

33:37

typical mega millions

33:39

jackpot run

33:40

total ticket revenue

33:41

is usually several times

33:42

the advertised jackpot

33:44

but there's no single

33:45

fixed average

33:46

because sales vary

33:47

enormously

33:47

with the jackpot size

33:48

still you can get

33:50

a good ballpark

33:51

so around 50%

33:53

of ticket revenue

33:53

goes into the overall

33:55

prize pool

33:55

so the government

33:56

makes 50% right off the bat

33:57

right

33:58

so if it's a hundred

33:59

million dollar payout

34:00

they already made

34:01

a hundred million

34:02

so that's 200 million

34:04

dollars is what they made

34:05

they throw in

34:06

a hundred million dollars

34:07

for everybody

34:08

of that prize pool

34:09

roughly two thirds

34:10

to three quarters

34:11

is allocated to the jackpot

34:13

with the rest funding

34:14

lower tier prizes

34:15

so that means

34:17

even if there's

34:17

200 million dollars

34:19

out of the hundred

34:20

million dollars

34:20

only two thirds

34:21

of it goes

34:22

into the big jackpot

34:24

and that means

34:26

the jackpot

34:27

is typically

34:27

in the order

34:28

of one third

34:29

of total ticket sales

34:30

that run

34:31

and then out of that

34:33

one third

34:33

so say if it's

34:34

a hundred million

34:35

or with the Epstein case

34:36

it was 80 million

34:37

he took the payout

34:38

which was 30 million

34:39

so they make 50

34:40

on top of that

34:41

and then on top of that

34:42

you pay taxes

34:43

on that 30

34:44

it's a crazy scam

34:46

what do they do

34:46

with the money

34:47

whatever the fuck

34:48

they want

34:48

I think they probably

34:50

in certain neighborhoods

34:51

I think they probably

34:52

pump a certain amount

34:53

of winning tickets

34:54

into a neighborhood

34:55

just to get you

34:56

addicted to keep

34:57

going in there

34:57

and spend your money

34:58

well it's supposed

35:00

to be random

35:01

you know

35:02

I don't know

35:03

how much

35:04

oversight

35:05

look if a guy

35:05

like Jeffrey Epstein

35:06

can win

35:07

I don't know

35:07

how much oversight

35:08

is it

35:08

I know

35:09

back in Boston

35:10

when I lived there

35:11

Whitey Bulger

35:12

won

35:12

see if this is true

35:14

I think he won

35:15

the lotto twice

35:16

which is crazy

35:18

Whitey Bulger

35:18

who was that

35:19

Whitey Bulger

35:20

was a South Boston

35:21

mob boss

35:22

in the 1980s

35:26

when I lived there

35:27

the 1980s

35:28

and 90s

35:29

a mob boss

35:31

yeah

35:31

he was a dangerous

35:33

dangerous guy

35:34

he was the guy

35:35

that that movie

35:36

that Leonardo DiCaprio

35:37

starred in

35:38

with Jack Nicholson

35:39

what was that movie

35:40

Jamie

35:41

remember that movie

35:42

that was based

35:43

on Whitey Bulger

35:43

The Departed

35:46

yeah

35:46

okay

35:47

that was based

35:48

on Whitey Bulger

35:49

he was a gangster

35:50

oh yeah

35:51

terrifying gangster

35:52

yeah

35:53

what was his demise

35:54

he was actually

35:56

a fucking

35:56

FBI informant

35:58

not only was he

35:59

a gangster

36:00

he was working

36:00

with the FBI

36:01

and they were

36:02

letting him get away

36:02

with shit

36:03

because he was

36:03

throwing other people

36:04

under the bus

36:05

I think there's

36:06

a different

36:06

I mean

36:07

they wound up

36:07

catching him

36:08

in Santa Monica

36:08

well

36:09

I've found

36:10

that

36:10

Hunting Whitey

36:11

about that

36:13

Whitey Bulger

36:13

won the mass

36:14

millions lottery

36:15

about that time

36:16

yeah

36:17

yeah

36:17

he won the

36:18

fucking lottery

36:19

man

36:19

so

36:20

this is what

36:22

it says

36:23

here

36:24

what does it say

36:25

I think

36:27

it was more

36:28

of a scheme

36:28

than they actually

36:29

won the

36:29

but it's

36:30

always taking money

36:31

it's probably

36:31

a way to like

36:31

launder money

36:32

yeah

36:33

oh 100%

36:34

it's a way

36:34

to launder money

36:34

so the way

36:35

it would work

36:36

was

36:36

like say

36:37

if you lived

36:38

in the community

36:38

and you

36:39

won the lottery ticket

36:40

maybe they would

36:41

give you money

36:42

for your lottery ticket

36:43

then he would get it

36:44

and that way

36:45

it would show

36:46

that this is where

36:47

he got his income from

36:48

like these guys

36:49

would all own

36:50

businesses

36:50

right

36:51

but the reason why

36:51

they would own businesses

36:52

is so they could show

36:54

why they drive a Cadillac

36:55

why they have a mansion

36:56

why they have this

36:57

because they have

36:58

legitimate businesses

36:58

but really

36:59

these businesses

37:00

were scams

37:01

my father convinced

37:02

my family

37:03

that he was a real estate agent

37:04

for years

37:04

to come and find out

37:05

he was a heroin kingpin

37:06

in D.C. for years

37:07

all we needed

37:08

was an excuse

37:09

he's selling real estate

37:10

all right

37:10

that's hilarious

37:11

so he ordered

37:14

the real winner

37:15

to sign the ticket over

37:16

with Whitey

37:18

and two associates

37:18

paying 2.3 million dollars

37:20

in cash

37:21

for 50%

37:22

of the winnings

37:23

Bulger himself

37:24

paid Michael Linsky

37:26

$700,000

37:27

although Linsky

37:28

lost money in the deal

37:29

he really had no choice

37:30

it came down to

37:31

selling the ticket

37:32

or risking his life

37:33

yeah

37:33

so that's how

37:34

it usually works

37:35

so he was a snitch

37:37

Whitey was a snitch

37:38

yeah

37:39

he was a snitch

37:40

and he got caught

37:41

in Santa Monica

37:42

snitch or whistleblower

37:43

there is a difference

37:44

no he was a snitch

37:44

whistleblowers

37:45

are people that snitch

37:46

on people in higher profile

37:47

positions like

37:48

corporate America

37:49

but what I'm finding

37:50

no he wasn't a whistleblower

37:51

he was an actual snitch

37:52

because he was turning

37:54

other people in

37:55

but he was a kingpin

37:56

is this true

37:57

and I don't want to

37:58

make everything about race

37:59

is that phrase

38:01

snitches

38:02

gets snitches

38:03

more prevalent

38:04

in the white community

38:05

or the black community

38:06

or it's across the board

38:06

I think it's across the board

38:08

isn't it

38:08

like the black community

38:10

is famous

38:10

for keeping their mouth shut

38:12

when someone gets shot

38:13

or when someone

38:14

does something

38:14

like when cops come

38:16

and question people

38:16

I don't know if that's the truth

38:16

anymore because

38:17

not anymore

38:18

but that was the thing

38:18

with the mafia too

38:19

the mob would never rat out

38:21

the guys would just go to jail

38:22

it's interesting now

38:23

because

38:23

now I see

38:25

like

38:26

especially in my community

38:27

so many people

38:27

like

38:28

rat

38:28

I got the paperwork

38:29

and everything

38:30

and now it feels like

38:31

like

38:32

that motto

38:33

of

38:34

being loyal

38:35

is dead

38:37

like people

38:38

now

38:39

they

38:39

they getting caught

38:40

with shit

38:40

in a minute

38:41

they get caught

38:42

they snitch on everybody

38:43

right

38:43

and there's no repercussions

38:45

when they come home

38:47

there's no repercussions

38:48

I don't see that as much

38:49

I see so many people

38:50

that are like

38:52

they saying

38:52

whatever the fuck

38:53

they want to do

38:53

whatever

38:53

and they still out here

38:55

just living their life's normal

38:56

like nothing fucking happened

38:57

well with the mob

38:58

it was always like

39:00

if you ratted on the mob

39:01

you were a dead man

39:02

you were a dead man

39:03

your family was probably dead

39:04

they'd burn your house down

39:05

and people kept their mouth shut

39:07

because of that

39:08

and so guys would go to jail

39:10

all the time

39:10

and never open their mouth

39:11

and they would be rewarded

39:13

when they would get out

39:14

and they'd have a party for them

39:15

celebrate

39:16

that's in Goodfellas

39:17

you kept your mouth shut

39:18

you never said nothing

39:19

that was the whole thing

39:20

but the whole thing

39:21

I used to live by

39:22

that changed though

39:23

like with John Gotti

39:24

like the government

39:26

did he snitch?

39:26

no Sammy the Bull

39:28

Sammy the Bull

39:28

and it wasn't just them

39:30

like everyone was snitching

39:32

on everybody

39:32

it's like they got these guys

39:34

and you know

39:35

we had Donnie Brasco

39:36

in the studio

39:38

from what

39:39

that Johnny Depp movie

39:41

it was called Donnie Brasco

39:43

okay

39:43

well I'm not confused

39:45

what's his real

39:46

Donnie Brasco's real name

39:48

Joe

39:50

I'm not confused

39:51

Bronx

39:52

that's not Bronx

39:53

Joe Pistone

39:54

Joe Pistone

39:55

that's not nothing to do

39:55

with Bronx Tale

39:56

right?

39:56

no different story

39:57

that's a different story

39:58

yeah

39:59

so Donnie Brasco

40:01

was the guy

40:02

who was

40:03

he was an agent

40:04

and he pretended

40:05

to be a mob guy

40:06

and he got in

40:07

with the mob

40:07

and was with him

40:08

for like seven years

40:09

did all kinds of shit

40:10

with the mob

40:11

and then

40:12

sold everybody out

40:13

and they all went under

40:14

yeah I don't know

40:15

I'm just so

40:16

the culture

40:17

everything is

40:18

there used to be a phrase

40:19

snitches get stitches

40:20

now I don't know

40:22

if this just

40:23

everywhere

40:23

but everywhere I go

40:24

it's like

40:25

the most interesting thing

40:27

now that's selling

40:27

on any platform

40:28

especially social media

40:29

is beef

40:30

and I don't understand

40:31

why people gravitate

40:33

toward negativity

40:34

more than anything

40:35

that's normal

40:36

why

40:37

but you know what

40:38

it's interesting

40:39

your platform

40:40

is not known for that

40:41

no

40:42

your platform

40:43

but I go to these

40:44

other platforms

40:45

and I don't know

40:46

I think these guys

40:47

the people

40:48

they just sit back

40:49

and it's like

40:50

okay

40:50

what can I say

40:52

to make people upset

40:54

get them riled up

40:55

and then I take advantage

40:57

of the engagement

40:58

that they do

40:59

they're in a different game

41:00

than me

41:00

alright

41:01

their game is

41:02

trying to get engagement

41:03

my game is talking

41:04

to people that are

41:05

interesting

41:05

doesn't that become

41:06

I don't want to be

41:08

triggering things

41:09

but doesn't that become

41:10

destructive

41:11

after a while

41:12

100%

41:13

and do you

41:13

have you noticed

41:15

especially

41:16

I'll put it like this

41:17

especially

41:18

with comedians

41:19

with podcasts

41:20

it used to be a time

41:22

where like you say

41:23

a person would go on a podcast

41:25

because it was interesting

41:26

they told funny stories

41:28

or they was good

41:29

at their craft

41:29

or whatever

41:30

but now it feels like

41:31

all these platforms

41:33

and I don't know

41:33

that's just

41:34

in my community

41:35

when I say that

41:35

black people

41:36

it's like

41:37

the only way

41:37

I can find myself

41:38

interesting

41:39

if I talk shit

41:41

about people

41:42

and motherfuckers

41:43

are going away

41:44

from being funny

41:46

when you get interviewed

41:49

like every

41:50

fucking podcast

41:52

I turn on now

41:53

it's somebody

41:54

I'm exposed

41:55

this person

41:55

I'm gonna tell this

41:56

about what you didn't know

41:57

and the one thing

41:58

they're not doing

41:59

especially as a

42:00

stand-up comedian

42:00

motherfuckers

42:02

don't give a fuck

42:02

about being funny

42:03

no more

42:04

are those days over

42:05

no

42:06

no no no

42:06

those people

42:08

that do that

42:08

are almost always

42:10

not very talented

42:11

almost always

42:12

the only exception

42:13

to that

42:14

the only exception

42:15

to that is Kat

42:15

and I think

42:16

what Kat was doing

42:17

was different

42:18

because what Kat was doing

42:19

was exposing

42:20

what he thought

42:21

was snakes and liars

42:22

okay

42:23

it's a different thing

42:24

okay

42:24

okay

42:25

I

42:26

okay

42:27

this is my question

42:28

okay

42:29

okay

42:30

this is my question

42:31

okay

42:31

this is my question

42:32

people can take it

42:33

okay

42:34

okay

42:36

I want to say this

42:36

this is what I'm saying

42:38

Joe

42:38

what are you saying

42:39

I'm coming from this place

42:40

I'm like this

42:41

no disrespect

42:41

or whatever to Kat

42:42

but like

42:42

who asked you

42:45

uh

42:47

Shannon Sharp did

42:48

when he did that podcast

42:50

Shannon Sharp might have asked

42:52

one question

42:53

but Shannon Sharp likes that

42:54

like

42:55

in his podcast

42:56

he likes a lot of that

42:58

his people

42:59

they find questions

43:00

he's got a sheet of paper

43:01

he's got questions

43:02

of people

43:02

they have beef

43:03

Joe

43:03

what do you do

43:04

with those truths

43:05

what do you do

43:07

with talking about

43:08

I watched

43:10

this is a horrible impression

43:11

I sat there in the parking lot

43:13

and I watched

43:14

people go up

43:15

into Diddy's house

43:16

and they came down

43:16

and they were standing up

43:17

I'm trying to figure out

43:19

what the fuck

43:21

do you get out of that

43:23

what

43:24

what

43:24

what is the result of that

43:25

you expose these people

43:27

to say what

43:27

Hollywood

43:28

is never

43:29

going to

43:30

fucking change

43:31

you know what changes

43:33

like what you do

43:34

I left fucking Hollywood

43:36

Hollywood's not going to change

43:38

and I'm not saying

43:39

I went to a Diddy party

43:40

first off

43:41

I was never invited

43:42

there's a chance

43:44

I would accept the invitation

43:45

with rules

43:46

you know

43:46

right

43:47

but

43:47

what is the purpose

43:49

of exposing something

43:50

that you

43:51

I don't think

43:52

most people

43:53

are exposing

43:54

what most people

43:55

are doing

43:55

when they're being negative

43:56

is they are jealous

43:58

and they are below

43:59

the person

44:00

they're talking shit about

44:01

like whenever I see

44:02

someone that's talking

44:03

shit about

44:03

a high level

44:04

you say that

44:06

and you use

44:07

Cat Williams

44:08

as an example

44:09

so when you said

44:10

they're jealous

44:11

first of all

44:11

when Cat did it

44:12

it was very funny

44:13

which is different

44:14

it was very funny

44:14

Cat's a very funny guy

44:16

and when he was doing it

44:17

I think he was also

44:18

being very funny

44:19

while he was doing it

44:20

which is different

44:21

well you have to put

44:21

an LOL on the end of it

44:22

because people might not

44:23

understand his humor

44:24

because this is what

44:26

this is a connection

44:26

people have

44:27

this is what

44:28

the connection they have

44:29

with Cat

44:29

this is what they say

44:31

and they ride with him

44:32

and they say

44:32

where is the lie

44:34

where is the lie

44:35

and all this stuff

44:36

but I'm just

44:36

trying to understand

44:37

what is the purpose

44:39

of exposing

44:39

all this stuff

44:40

what do we do

44:41

with this information

44:42

what do we do

44:43

with the information

44:44

that Diddy like

44:44

to have fucking

44:45

freak parties

44:45

with baby owners

44:46

what the fuck

44:47

do we do

44:48

with all this information

44:49

well Diddy's in jail

44:50

right now

44:50

so they did that

44:51

with the information

44:51

well Diddy's in jail

44:52

for doing something

44:53

that a lot of people

44:54

I

44:56

let me tell you

44:57

something Joe

44:58

tell me something

44:59

I was riding

45:01

with Diddy

45:01

for once

45:02

I liked the music

45:03

he did or anything

45:03

I don't know

45:04

Diddy like that

45:05

but when I first

45:07

read

45:09

the definition

45:10

of sex trafficking

45:12

right

45:13

I'm sure

45:14

you're a first person

45:15

you're smart

45:15

the definition

45:17

of sex trafficking

45:18

to transport a woman

45:19

across state lines

45:22

with the intent

45:22

to have sexual intercourse

45:24

with her

45:24

right

45:24

when I heard

45:25

when you're paying them

45:26

it's trafficking

45:28

is

45:28

no

45:29

that's not

45:29

actually

45:30

my

45:31

really

45:32

this is my

45:33

Jamie you can pull this up

45:34

wait a minute

45:34

so if you are dating a girl

45:36

and she lives in Minnesota

45:37

and you live in California

45:39

and you fly her to California

45:40

that's sex trafficking

45:42

and I'm thinking about

45:43

I don't think that's true

45:44

I don't think that's true at all

45:46

I think that's just

45:47

flying a girl in

45:48

that you're having a relationship with

45:49

in the streets they call it

45:50

fluid out

45:50

fluid out

45:51

yeah but that's normal

45:52

everybody does that

45:53

but that's the definition

45:54

it's commercial sex

45:55

yeah commercial

45:56

commercial sex act

45:58

induced by force fraud

46:00

or coercion

46:01

huh

46:02

well coercion's crazy

46:03

because coercion is like

46:04

please I'll buy you a bag

46:06

that's sex trafficking

46:07

that's a date

46:08

so like if a girl

46:09

right

46:09

if you're if you

46:10

if there's a girl

46:11

she's like

46:11

what are you going to do for me

46:11

like you know those shoes you want

46:13

I got those shoes for you

46:14

let's go shopping

46:15

like that's kind of sex trafficking

46:17

if that's coercion for money

46:19

like if a girl's thinking about

46:22

coming out to visit you

46:23

and then you go

46:24

listen listen listen

46:25

what are you looking for

46:26

what do you want to buy

46:27

I got money

46:28

come on let's go shopping

46:29

that kind of would fall into that category

46:32

but look we're getting off topic

46:34

let's go back to the topic

46:35

originally in hand

46:36

the reason why these comedians are negative

46:39

I need to

46:39

no no no

46:40

you're not going to get in trouble

46:41

for sex trafficking

46:42

listen

46:42

that's all horse shit

46:43

but the reason why

46:45

these comedians are doing it

46:46

is because they're never bigger

46:49

than the comedians they're shitting on

46:50

never

46:51

one thousand percent

46:53

one thousand percent

46:54

and you know what it is Joe

46:54

and they're never good

46:56

that you know what it is too Joe

46:57

is that

46:58

deep down inside

47:00

they want to be that person

47:02

one hundred percent

47:03

and I tell you what

47:04

or they want to be in the position

47:06

that person's in

47:07

is a better way of putting it

47:07

I'll use this

47:09

I'll tell you this story

47:10

I realize that

47:11

not to say names

47:12

but you

47:12

it's so many people

47:13

that could be guilt

47:13

guilty of it

47:14

and this is the thing

47:15

that I hear

47:16

that understands me

47:17

that disturbs me

47:19

is that

47:20

you know

47:21

a lot of these people

47:23

that bitch the most

47:24

they at some point

47:26

in their career

47:27

they were favored

47:29

by Hollywood

47:29

yes

47:30

at some point in their career

47:31

they had these opportunities

47:33

at some point in their career

47:34

guess what

47:35

they had the agencies

47:36

they had the agents

47:38

and something happened

47:39

in their career

47:39

where they fell out of favor

47:42

for whatever you want to call it

47:43

whatever you want to call it

47:44

for whatever

47:45

maybe something they did

47:46

agency didn't like

47:47

liked it too much

47:48

and now

47:48

everything

47:49

that they wrote on

47:51

everything they wanted to do

47:52

now it's

47:52

oh

47:53

that's fucked up

47:54

and the only way you get this opportunity

47:56

because it had to be

47:57

sexual favors

47:58

and all that type of shit

47:59

and where the fuck

48:00

you draw the line

48:00

but it's not even sexual favors

48:02

it's like they criticize

48:03

the work of the other person

48:05

that person ate shit

48:05

that person sucks

48:06

can I

48:07

can I

48:07

yo

48:08

there's

48:08

here's the thing

48:10

there was

48:10

come on

48:12

you get this all the time

48:13

because you ride with Dave

48:15

and Dave's number one

48:16

right

48:16

so you always get

48:17

you always get this label

48:19

even though you're a great comic

48:21

you get this label

48:21

being a coattail rider

48:23

right

48:23

and guess what

48:24

everybody don't

48:26

this is what I try to explain to people Joe

48:27

everybody

48:29

does not have to be

48:30

Batman

48:31

I don't have a problem

48:35

with being Robin

48:36

you know why

48:37

because Robin got the same amount of screen time as Batman

48:40

and the reason why I say

48:43

this is what I get

48:44

and I'm telling you this Joe

48:45

I don't know if this gum is kicking in

48:47

this is what

48:49

this is what fucks me up Joe

48:51

this is what fucks me up

48:53

and I'll tell you example

48:54

I'm gonna give you example

48:55

don't give me examples

48:56

no I'm gonna tell you

48:57

are you pulling out your phone

48:58

I'm gonna tell you why

48:59

because your fucking shirt

49:01

is fucking triggering me right now

49:02

Kill Tony

49:03

you mean the greatest

49:04

greatest comedy show of all time

49:06

in the history of the known universe

49:07

I know that

49:08

but there's a lot of lies involved

49:09

okay

49:10

listen

49:11

this is

49:11

this is what they say

49:13

this is what they say

49:14

don't pay attention to what they say

49:15

no listen

49:16

why are you doing that

49:17

yo you told me

49:18

what are you playing

49:18

these things that the Kill Tony audience say about me

49:20

um

49:21

Chappelle's butt plug is

49:22

oh god

49:23

yo

49:26

I gotta deal with this shit

49:28

what is so hard

49:29

no

49:29

well you gotta stop paying attention to it

49:31

it's so hard

49:32

you know what it would happen to me

49:33

if I paid attention to all the haters that I have

49:36

yeah

49:36

I would go crazy

49:37

you would

49:38

do you think that you paid attention to those haters

49:40

now you're in a position right now

49:41

you have so many reasons to say fuck them

49:43

do you feel like you had that same belief

49:45

when you was first starting this

49:47

did you

49:47

did you engage them then

49:49

well

49:50

I engaged online with a lot of people in the early days

49:53

because I didn't understand

49:54

what you're doing is you're engaging with people that don't have happy lives

49:59

right

49:59

and they're negative

50:00

and there's some criticisms that are good for you

50:03

because some criticisms make you evaluate what you're doing and say

50:07

okay well what I need to do is be undeniable

50:09

so these critics mean nothing to me

50:11

because you can't

50:12

I'm killing

50:13

the audience loves me

50:14

I'm selling out everywhere

50:15

I'm doing great on stage

50:17

you can't pay attention

50:19

you know what

50:19

you know what

50:20

I will say this

50:21

I hear you Joe

50:21

I tried that with them motherfuckers on your shirt

50:23

you had a bad show

50:25

you had one bad show

50:26

I never had

50:27

you had a bad show

50:28

you had a bad show

50:29

please don't do this to me

50:30

you did

50:31

you had that one bad show

50:32

I did not fucking have a bad show

50:34

did you walk off the show

50:36

listen man

50:38

sit the fuck down

50:40

sit the fuck down

50:41

I did not fucking walk off the show

50:42

you want me to play it back

50:44

I

50:44

please don't do this

50:46

you were a little drunk

50:48

no please don't do this

50:48

who was the comic

50:49

who was the comic

50:50

I don't know

50:51

his name

50:52

we don't need to bring his up

50:54

he's funny

50:54

whoever that dude is

50:55

he's funny

50:55

now you're doing this

50:56

you know what you're doing

50:57

you're being a provocatory

51:00

you're provoking me

51:02

because we broke this shit down

51:04

and I don't want to keep

51:05

I didn't think of this

51:06

when I was wearing this shirt

51:07

I'll change the shirt

51:08

no it's okay

51:09

put something over

51:09

I'll wear a Benny the Jet shirt

51:11

let's break it down Joe

51:13

no we don't have to

51:14

we have to

51:15

you started this shit

51:16

alright

51:17

thank you

51:18

I'm going to change my shirt right now

51:20

it's like

51:21

I didn't have a bad show

51:23

you definitely

51:24

didn't have a great show right

51:25

when you walk off

51:27

it's not good

51:27

Jesus

51:30

I feel like Carrie

51:37

they're all going to laugh at me

51:39

they're going to laugh at me

51:40

it wasn't

51:41

this for the last fucking time Joe

51:45

for the last fucking time

51:47

and this is what's so fucking evil

51:51

about this situation

51:52

that some people call it a bad show

51:53

I never wanted to do this show

51:57

but you came back on

51:58

you had a good show right

51:59

I want to go back

52:00

let's rewind

52:01

alright

52:02

and this is

52:03

you were a part of it

52:04

hey look

52:05

I changed my shirt

52:06

no more triggering

52:07

shout out to Benny the jet

52:09

I need another piece of gum

52:13

I'm going to say this

52:15

say what it's worth

52:16

first off

52:17

I did not want

52:19

the first time

52:20

I did it here in Austin

52:21

right

52:22

I didn't want to do the show

52:24

okay

52:24

and the reason why

52:25

I didn't want to do the show

52:27

now you're not even paying attention

52:28

you want a cigar

52:28

yeah I'll take a cigar

52:30

yeah I'll take a cigar

52:30

I didn't want to do the show

52:32

and I'll tell you why

52:33

because I'm

52:34

the streets say I'm sensitive

52:36

you are a little sensitive

52:37

can I have not have your opinion

52:41

and just listen to me please

52:42

they know I'm sensitive

52:46

it was during the pandemic

52:48

Joe you remember

52:50

people would still come

52:52

to do your podcast

52:53

because they know the benefits of it

52:55

and you had your thing doing

52:56

they would come to your podcast

52:57

and then they would fucking leave

52:59

because they didn't want to catch COVID

53:01

and then they would leave Tony stranded

53:03

and he had no good guests

53:05

I was here

53:07

right

53:09

this one when

53:10

I'm talking about the time

53:11

when Tony had

53:13

a black band

53:14

he still has a black band

53:16

all black

53:17

there's a couple black people

53:18

on there now

53:19

I think it's mostly black

53:21

right

53:22

okay

53:22

I want to tell a story

53:23

this is the last time

53:24

I'm going to talk about it

53:25

Deep Madness

53:25

I mean

53:26

name them all up

53:27

this is the last time Joe

53:27

I want to tell the truth

53:28

drummer and the guitar player

53:29

what's that

53:30

mic

53:31

yeah I mean

53:32

it's like

53:33

the horns

53:33

a lot of them are black

53:36

definitely

53:37

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54:56

when it was all

54:58

not high production

54:59

and all that type shit

55:00

Tony was like

55:01

it's hard for me

55:02

to get a guess

55:03

would you stay

55:03

and this is when

55:05

you fucked me up

55:06

the last time

55:06

you wasn't playing fair

55:07

yes you did

55:08

I wasn't playing fair

55:08

no I'm telling you

55:09

when you weren't playing fair

55:10

when was I not playing fair

55:12

can I talk

55:12

please

55:13

all I want to do

55:15

I don't know

55:15

if I got a raise in my hand

55:16

I just want to be able to speak

55:18

it is my month

55:19

it's my fucking month

55:20

so

55:21

Tony said

55:22

would you stay

55:23

come on

55:23

I was like you know

55:24

and I stayed

55:25

right

55:25

and I stayed

55:26

and I stayed

55:27

I was on the show

55:28

for two and a half hours

55:29

I told him

55:30

this is where it gets all crazy

55:31

I told him I had

55:32

something I was supposed

55:33

to do later

55:34

there was another

55:35

Black comic

55:36

that was on the show

55:37

he started roasting me

55:38

I had no problem with that

55:39

I had no problem

55:40

with him roasting me

55:41

but I felt fucked up

55:42

because it was only

55:43

me and him

55:44

and I was trying

55:45

to get this guy

55:45

some sound advice

55:46

but the only way

55:47

he thought he was going

55:48

to get off

55:48

by fucking me

55:49

so I was like

55:50

yo why you

55:50

fuck with me

55:51

we on the same

55:52

we on the fucking

55:53

same team

55:53

what they did was

55:55

look at the fucking

55:56

video

55:56

okay

55:57

you see

55:58

I want you to

55:59

slow it down

56:00

slow it down

56:01

slow the video down

56:03

it's like a Zapruder film

56:04

back to the left

56:06

you're going to let me

56:07

forget my thought

56:08

Joe

56:08

sorry

56:09

it's so easy for me

56:10

to get distracted

56:11

just hang on

56:12

with me

56:13

so if you look

56:18

at this video

56:19

you see

56:20

him saying

56:21

something to me

56:22

and then when I leave

56:23

it's two different

56:24

fucking comics

56:25

on the fucking

56:27

stage

56:27

it's a dude

56:29

that I was roasting

56:30

and then they

56:30

showed me the exit

56:31

and then these

56:32

kill Tony

56:33

bitch ass

56:34

motherfuckers

56:34

and I'm telling you

56:35

I'll get past it

56:36

they may

56:37

oh Donnell walked up

56:38

I didn't walk up

56:39

I had some other

56:40

shit to do

56:41

and in the last episode

56:42

you and your boy

56:43

Tony

56:45

he caught here

56:46

and Tony doubled

56:47

down on it

56:47

and he said

56:48

no that's not

56:49

what happened

56:49

of course

56:50

them comment

56:51

motherfuckers

56:51

the ones that be

56:52

putting cringe on it

56:53

they roll with it

56:54

okay

56:54

then I came back

56:56

came back

56:58

you had an amazing show

56:59

Tony said it was one of the best

57:01

shows he's ever done

57:02

why it was amazing

57:03

because you were ready

57:03

I'm amazing

57:06

you are amazing

57:07

but also you wanted

57:08

to get it back

57:09

right

57:10

I didn't have

57:11

you know what

57:11

this is what Redman

57:12

said to me

57:13

Redman

57:14

Redman

57:14

whatever the fuck

57:15

his name

57:16

he changed too

57:16

I'm going to tell you

57:17

why he's in the Wu-Tang class

57:18

let me tell you

57:18

I'm going to tell you

57:20

the difference between him

57:21

and I'm going to tell you

57:22

the similarities between him

57:23

and Jamie

57:24

a little later on

57:25

right

57:25

okay

57:25

how they're divas now

57:26

and I know

57:27

Jamie

57:27

my Jamie's a diva

57:29

yes

57:29

he has a false memory

57:30

of something already

57:31

I'll let him go

57:32

Jamie is the last thing

57:34

from a fucking diva

57:35

I will defend Jamie

57:37

to the bitter end

57:38

well maybe you don't know him

57:39

I don't know Jamie

57:41

yo let me tell you

57:42

this is Jamie

57:43

I know Jamie better

57:44

than his mom

57:45

I know

57:45

but this is a Jamie

57:46

I saw

57:47

at Kill Tony

57:50

after party

57:50

sit down

57:51

you're not on camera

57:51

this is also Saturday night

57:53

okay

57:53

he had a leather jacket on

57:55

I don't have a leather jacket

57:56

Jamie had a leather jacket

57:57

he didn't call it a leather jacket

57:58

whatever it was

57:59

you own a leather jacket

58:00

no he doesn't even know

58:01

wait wait

58:01

wait

58:02

the collar was flipped up

58:03

you have a false memory

58:04

Joe

58:04

the collar was flipped up

58:05

like dice

58:06

and then he had the shirt

58:08

you might have had

58:08

Timmy no breaks

58:09

I think it's confusing

58:10

Timmy no breaks

58:11

and Jamie

58:11

Joe he had the shirt

58:12

open to this button

58:13

right here

58:14

oh right

58:15

gold chains

58:15

and he was sitting

58:16

I don't know

58:16

what type of moose

58:17

Jamie had gold chains

58:18

boost on his hair

58:19

ponytail was popping

58:21

he had some type of moose

58:23

or something

58:24

right

58:24

and then he was just looking

58:26

and I was like

58:27

what's up Jamie

58:27

he was like

58:28

he had his hands

58:30

it was given

58:31

as they say

58:31

it was given

58:32

Fonzie attitude

58:32

I knew

58:33

I knew that had changed

58:35

but this is what Redman

58:36

Redman

58:36

whatever man he is

58:37

Redman

58:38

Redman

58:38

he said

58:39

after the show

58:40

he said

58:41

that must have been

58:42

the most epic

58:43

comeback in kill

58:45

Tony history

58:45

I was like

58:46

well the second episode was

58:47

you came back

58:48

full steam

58:49

you know what you're doing

58:49

I don't know

58:50

it was great

58:51

I'm trying to use the term

58:52

I don't I don't think

58:53

it's passive wrestle

58:54

but you're fucking

58:55

with my mental right now

58:56

no I'm telling you

58:57

you're a great comic

58:58

and you're funny as fuck

58:59

and when you came back

58:59

it was amazing

59:00

that's what you said

59:01

the second episode was great

59:02

this is the point

59:03

I'm making

59:03

of what you're doing

59:04

right

59:05

the first episode was great

59:06

it was Doctor

59:07

it was Doctor

59:12

it was Doctor

59:13

videos

59:14

Doctor videos

59:15

you Doctored it

59:16

but then

59:17

then here's the thing

59:18

they said

59:19

Redman

59:20

Redman

59:20

he said

59:21

he said

59:24

that was the greatest

59:24

comeback

59:25

I was like

59:25

it wasn't a comeback

59:26

you're editing what it was

59:27

and this is what I did

59:28

you're editing

59:29

this is what I did

59:30

and I'm not saying

59:32

I think about

59:32

the kill Tony audience

59:34

like that

59:35

but I thought about them

59:36

because

59:36

this is what I said

59:37

I was like

59:38

this is what I went

59:38

like you said

59:39

I'm a great comic

59:39

I know what I do

59:40

I said you know what

59:41

I don't want to give

59:42

these motherfuckers

59:42

an opportunity

59:43

to be able to fuck with me

59:44

so I did

59:45

before I went that last

59:47

I said okay

59:47

what did you do last time

59:49

that you're going to do

59:50

different for anyone

59:51

to say that

59:51

I was like

59:51

the last one

59:52

you had some drinks

59:54

well I wasn't able

59:55

to do anything about that

59:56

because I had some more drinks

59:56

but I was like

59:57

I tried to address

59:58

what their concerns were

59:59

right

1:00:00

which

1:00:01

with them

1:00:02

it's not going to make

1:00:03

a difference

1:00:04

because I know

1:00:04

that last episode

1:00:05

this is what I didn't

1:00:07

understand about Kill Tony

1:00:08

I didn't understand

1:00:09

the formula

1:00:10

I don't watch it like that

1:00:11

first time I ever did it

1:00:12

I was interrupting

1:00:13

the one minute part

1:00:15

you know what I mean

1:00:15

oh okay

1:00:16

and Tony told me

1:00:17

first time I did it

1:00:18

he said

1:00:18

D

1:00:18

only one rule

1:00:20

he said

1:00:20

let them talk for a minute

1:00:22

I said

1:00:23

Tony why you have

1:00:24

me on this show

1:00:25

you know I'm going to

1:00:25

break the rules

1:00:26

he knew that

1:00:28

right

1:00:28

but then

1:00:29

after I

1:00:29

I was like

1:00:30

I understood

1:00:31

how important it was

1:00:33

to let those comics

1:00:34

get that minute

1:00:35

right

1:00:36

so when I did it

1:00:36

the second time

1:00:37

with Rob Schneider

1:00:38

I didn't interrupt

1:00:38

sometimes my criticism

1:00:40

could have been too hard

1:00:41

I was trying to be

1:00:42

more supportive than anything

1:00:43

if you watched

1:00:44

the last one I did

1:00:45

I had nothing bad

1:00:46

to say about people

1:00:47

in a harsh way

1:00:48

certain people I knew

1:00:49

was up there

1:00:50

just because it was gimmick

1:00:51

and there were certain

1:00:52

people I was like

1:00:52

oh man they really got talent

1:00:54

like this one lady

1:00:55

she was an older woman

1:00:56

I think she's a regular there

1:00:57

right

1:00:57

I don't know what she

1:00:58

know what she was

1:00:59

but I told her

1:01:00

I said you know

1:01:00

it's so awesome

1:01:01

I said when I watch you perform

1:01:02

I see passion

1:01:04

I see somebody

1:01:04

that's going into

1:01:05

a different career

1:01:06

later in life

1:01:06

which is the hardest

1:01:07

thing to do

1:01:07

I made those points

1:01:09

like and I wasn't

1:01:10

trying to be an asshole

1:01:11

and even

1:01:12

I got caught up in one

1:01:13

and they ran with this shit

1:01:14

and it's a song

1:01:16

that there was one of the acts

1:01:18

by the name of Juanita

1:01:19

Juanita is a gender

1:01:22

what is it

1:01:23

when you

1:01:23

transgender

1:01:24

yeah you have a dick

1:01:25

but you're a girl

1:01:26

still

1:01:27

yeah

1:01:27

yeah

1:01:28

transgender

1:01:28

right

1:01:29

so she came up

1:01:30

with this song

1:01:30

and she did this song

1:01:32

we will praise you

1:01:34

praise you

1:01:35

and I had a couple drinks

1:01:37

right

1:01:37

and I said

1:01:38

and I was thinking like

1:01:39

shit you don't have

1:01:40

headphones on

1:01:41

what

1:01:41

what Jamie

1:01:42

I just started playing it

1:01:43

sorry

1:01:44

what the song

1:01:44

oh you geared up

1:01:46

for that shit

1:01:47

put your headphones on

1:01:48

no listen

1:01:49

put your headphones on

1:01:50

oh god

1:01:51

okay

1:01:51

hold on

1:01:52

wait a minute

1:02:09

that's Juanita's version

1:02:10

that's not

1:02:11

that's the rip

1:02:13

okay

1:02:13

okay

1:02:14

do you got Juanita's version

1:02:16

oh I can find it

1:02:17

get to

1:02:17

so this is what happened Joe

1:02:18

so

1:02:19

I'm

1:02:20

I had a couple

1:02:21

two two three four five

1:02:22

Tito's in

1:02:23

and I'm only looking at the artist

1:02:26

with my peripheral

1:02:27

I'm not staring nobody down

1:02:29

and like

1:02:30

looking at them

1:02:30

through the pupils

1:02:31

or whatever

1:02:31

so

1:02:32

the performer

1:02:33

I'm going to say that

1:02:34

because I don't want to get

1:02:35

anybody upset

1:02:36

the performer was like

1:02:37

here we go

1:02:39

I'll just let them talk to still

1:02:41

now look how I'm not

1:02:43

paying attention

1:02:43

right

1:02:44

you're looking right at her

1:02:45

shut the fuck up

1:02:46

okay

1:02:47

listen

1:02:47

all right

1:02:49

we'll see

1:02:49

so it was very strange

1:02:55

when in 2000

1:02:56

I'm going to say that

1:02:56

sorry

1:02:56

okay

1:02:57

oh they had to cut it out too

1:02:59

I think

1:02:59

probably the song

1:03:01

yeah

1:03:01

that's the gayest thing

1:03:05

I've ever done

1:03:06

and I do anal

1:03:10

believe it or not

1:03:12

Juanita

1:03:13

welcome back to the show

1:03:16

can I do a remix of that song

1:03:18

for any black guy

1:03:19

watching her right now

1:03:20

I don't know

1:03:21

we will

1:03:22

we will

1:03:24

fuck you

1:03:25

it's probably true

1:03:27

until you find out

1:03:29

she has a dick

1:03:30

Donnell

1:03:31

that is

1:03:33

keep it going

1:03:35

don't

1:03:36

keep it going

1:03:38

this is amazing

1:03:39

that's how it happens

1:03:41

ladies and gentlemen

1:03:42

they can't tell

1:03:44

no

1:03:45

come back

1:03:47

no

1:03:48

the brothers

1:03:50

the brothers can't tell

1:03:53

the brothers can't

1:03:54

they will

1:03:54

they will

1:03:55

fuck you

1:03:56

they never

1:03:58

I was trying to be nice

1:04:00

keep it going

1:04:05

keep it going

1:04:05

because it's hilarious

1:04:06

whereas white guys

1:04:10

know

1:04:11

that's the first place

1:04:13

the white guys look

1:04:14

charlemagne's gonna find

1:04:21

that clip

1:04:21

we will

1:04:23

we will

1:04:24

fuck you

1:04:24

you are

1:04:25

you are

1:04:26

fucked on

1:04:27

I'm getting word

1:04:29

from the street

1:04:30

I was being nice

1:04:31

I'm getting word

1:04:32

from the streets

1:04:33

I'm doing some difference

1:04:34

son

1:04:34

I'm sure this happened

1:04:36

I don't want to get bad

1:04:37

like Dave Chappelle

1:04:38

nigga

1:04:38

Daniel I'm sure this happened

1:04:41

before in Korea

1:04:42

stop touching me son

1:04:43

I'm sure in Korea

1:04:45

as an 18 year old boy

1:04:46

this is a memory

1:04:47

coming back to you

1:04:48

oh my god

1:04:51

this is usually how black guys react

1:04:53

it's pretty

1:04:55

Juanita

1:04:56

have you been with a black man before

1:04:58

keep it going

1:05:00

keep it going

1:05:00

I guess it gets you in front of me

1:05:01

no

1:05:01

okay

1:05:03

are you just saying that

1:05:04

so that he doesn't find you

1:05:05

and kill you

1:05:05

no I was raised right

1:05:07

I'm just kidding

1:05:08

I mean let's go

1:05:09

oh shit

1:05:10

now I'm offended

1:05:11

no I have been

1:05:13

I've been with one

1:05:14

he was half

1:05:15

okay

1:05:15

he was half

1:05:16

half a black

1:05:17

okay

1:05:17

my career's over nigga

1:05:21

it's over

1:05:28

come on that was funny

1:05:34

no wait a minute

1:05:35

it was funny

1:05:35

and I didn't take

1:05:36

the funny thing about it was

1:05:38

I did have a couple drinks right

1:05:40

people like

1:05:40

how did you not know

1:05:41

like I live in the Midwest

1:05:43

and what I really thought

1:05:44

I know of women

1:05:46

that look just like Juanita

1:05:48

sure

1:05:49

that in the face

1:05:50

it's kind of like sketchy

1:05:51

like a dollar general

1:05:52

one to two

1:05:53

and I wasn't offended

1:05:55

but it just

1:05:56

it just caught me off guard

1:05:57

but what I'm going back

1:05:58

to what I was saying

1:05:58

about the kill Tony thing

1:05:59

and this is another thing

1:06:01

people said

1:06:02

well Donnell

1:06:03

you got upset

1:06:04

because Rob Schneider

1:06:05

was roasting

1:06:05

and whatever

1:06:06

first off

1:06:07

there was the first time

1:06:09

Rob Schneider

1:06:09

was on the show

1:06:10

right

1:06:10

he didn't really know

1:06:12

too much about

1:06:12

the kill Tony platform

1:06:13

I knew a little more

1:06:15

than he did

1:06:15

and at the beginning

1:06:17

he was kind of cold

1:06:19

if you want to say

1:06:20

not cold like

1:06:21

not funny

1:06:21

but he just wasn't

1:06:22

warmed up to the flow

1:06:23

and then I started

1:06:24

saying things

1:06:25

I was alley-ooping him

1:06:26

right

1:06:27

basically

1:06:29

people can say

1:06:30

what they want

1:06:30

I helped get him

1:06:31

comfortable in the show

1:06:32

and then he started

1:06:33

crushing

1:06:33

right

1:06:34

he started crushing

1:06:36

and then we did

1:06:37

anybody tell you

1:06:38

that episode was amazing

1:06:39

right

1:06:40

it was amazing

1:06:40

but this is the thing

1:06:41

this is what

1:06:42

that platform

1:06:43

is not a place

1:06:44

for you to tell

1:06:45

how you really feel

1:06:46

about somebody

1:06:46

right

1:06:47

and I owe Tony

1:06:48

an apology

1:06:49

and I'll tell you why

1:06:50

when Tony did

1:06:52

the R.I.N.

1:06:54

Republic National Convention

1:06:55

whatever

1:06:56

remember when he did

1:06:57

the roasting

1:06:58

yes

1:06:58

for that

1:06:59

it was a very

1:07:00

very testy time

1:07:01

you know

1:07:02

politics

1:07:03

everybody said

1:07:04

you shouldn't do this

1:07:05

and everything

1:07:05

I told him not to do it

1:07:06

you told him not to do the show

1:07:08

not to do that

1:07:09

the Republican Party thing

1:07:10

here's the thing

1:07:10

this is what

1:07:11

just for the people

1:07:12

that's listening

1:07:13

this is what happened

1:07:14

at the end of

1:07:14

that killed Tony

1:07:15

with me and Rob Schneider

1:07:16

all I wanted to do

1:07:17

I had the question on

1:07:19

where do you draw the line

1:07:21

do you draw the line

1:07:22

of what people think

1:07:23

how you're supposed

1:07:23

to respond to something

1:07:25

or are you loyal

1:07:26

to somebody

1:07:26

or how they treat you

1:07:28

and how they are

1:07:29

as a friend to you

1:07:30

and Tony wanted me

1:07:31

to do that show

1:07:32

and anytime I've called Tony

1:07:34

he's pick up the phone

1:07:34

vice versa

1:07:35

we've been in for each other

1:07:36

my publicist

1:07:38

I don't know

1:07:39

if this is a good idea

1:07:40

right now

1:07:41

because what you think

1:07:43

is a nice gesture

1:07:43

you want to do the show

1:07:44

people are going to act

1:07:45

like it's a political stand

1:07:46

I didn't want that

1:07:47

right

1:07:47

so I

1:07:48

you can't listen

1:07:49

to publicists

1:07:50

this is what I learned

1:07:51

now Joe

1:07:52

what I'm saying

1:07:52

that was my inexperience

1:07:54

whatever

1:07:54

and something

1:07:55

I kept calling

1:07:56

and I was like

1:07:56

what if I do this

1:07:57

because I wanted to

1:07:58

be reconnected with him

1:08:00

whatever

1:08:00

and I told Tony

1:08:02

he was hot

1:08:03

in a good way

1:08:05

in a positive way

1:08:05

I felt so bad

1:08:07

I called him

1:08:07

I said man

1:08:08

I really want to do

1:08:09

the show

1:08:10

but I think people

1:08:10

are going to take it

1:08:11

the wrong way now

1:08:12

right

1:08:12

and this was me

1:08:13

I felt bad about

1:08:15

I stood up

1:08:15

at your condo

1:08:16

I was on the balcony

1:08:18

bro

1:08:18

and I watched

1:08:20

motherfuckers

1:08:20

going to the show

1:08:21

I felt bad about it

1:08:23

I didn't do it

1:08:23

and the only thing

1:08:25

I wanted to do

1:08:25

at the end of that

1:08:26

Kill Tony episode

1:08:27

was to

1:08:28

apologize to him

1:08:29

and say

1:08:30

you know

1:08:30

as a friend

1:08:31

I probably wasn't there

1:08:32

and he understood

1:08:33

even though

1:08:33

I was like

1:08:33

he's never going to

1:08:34

let me do the show again

1:08:34

he said

1:08:35

I'd love to have you there

1:08:36

the only issue

1:08:37

I had with Rob Schneider

1:08:38

in that moment

1:08:39

he didn't have the sense

1:08:40

of me trying to say

1:08:41

something serious

1:08:41

right

1:08:42

and he was getting

1:08:44

a laugh off this one joke

1:08:45

and it was at my expense

1:08:46

you know

1:08:47

when I had this moment

1:08:48

I was talking about

1:08:49

friendship and everything

1:08:50

Rob kept on with

1:08:52

this fucking corny joke

1:08:53

and I didn't want to flip out

1:08:54

and then people took that

1:08:56

and it was like

1:08:56

oh yeah

1:08:57

Rob roasted him

1:08:58

the fuck out of here

1:09:00

I was trying to talk about

1:09:01

and I had this issue

1:09:03

you might have

1:09:04

the same issue

1:09:04

some people know people

1:09:08

a certain way

1:09:09

you know them

1:09:09

a different way

1:09:09

and I'll use an example

1:09:10

and I'm going to get

1:09:12

shitted on for saying this

1:09:14

or whatever

1:09:14

like oh how could you say that

1:09:16

I

1:09:18

you got to stop worrying

1:09:20

about what other people think

1:09:21

I can't do it

1:09:22

I can't do it

1:09:22

you got to stop worrying

1:09:24

about what other people think

1:09:25

this is the conflict

1:09:26

you know how you feel

1:09:28

just be yourself

1:09:29

I'll just say this

1:09:30

Kid Rock

1:09:30

Kid Rock right

1:09:31

you say that name

1:09:33

for some people

1:09:34

in certain places

1:09:35

they're like oh fuck him

1:09:36

or whatever right

1:09:36

I met Kid Rock

1:09:38

some years ago

1:09:39

when we were doing

1:09:40

the cornfield shows

1:09:41

in Yellow Springs

1:09:43

and I tell people

1:09:44

something

1:09:44

we talked about this earlier

1:09:45

some people are provocateurs

1:09:46

I really believe

1:09:48

Kid Rock

1:09:49

doesn't believe

1:09:50

half the shit he's saying

1:09:51

but I think that he knows

1:09:52

what's going to move the dial

1:09:53

as well as it's going to make him

1:09:54

be in the headlines

1:09:55

and what people are like

1:09:55

oh shit

1:09:56

and he's going to stick to them

1:09:57

well we did that show

1:09:58

in Nashville

1:09:59

remember we hung out with him

1:10:00

went to his house

1:10:01

yeah exactly

1:10:01

and with that

1:10:04

even when he came

1:10:05

to the cornfields

1:10:05

that time

1:10:05

this was the point

1:10:06

when he said

1:10:06

some crazy shit

1:10:07

out of his mouth

1:10:08

nobody wanted to be

1:10:09

around him or anything

1:10:10

right

1:10:10

he was like

1:10:10

oh bah bah bah bah

1:10:11

right

1:10:12

you know

1:10:13

when I do

1:10:14

I do this thing

1:10:14

I do river runs

1:10:16

in Yellow Springs, Ohio

1:10:17

and for some reason

1:10:18

I take people down the river

1:10:19

and it's like a peace thing

1:10:20

like you and nature

1:10:21

got a photo

1:10:22

you're right outside the door

1:10:23

I know

1:10:23

I asked for that photo here too

1:10:25

it's right outside the door

1:10:26

I love that

1:10:26

so now

1:10:27

if you look at that photo

1:10:28

you'll see the energy

1:10:29

that's the vibe I was on

1:10:30

and nobody wanted to get

1:10:32

close to Kid Rock

1:10:33

or anything

1:10:33

right

1:10:33

and I remember as a kid

1:10:34

how the black community

1:10:35

accepted him

1:10:36

in school

1:10:36

I'm thinking about that shit

1:10:37

we're riding down the river

1:10:39

Kid is over on one kayak

1:10:41

I'm on the other side

1:10:42

we smoke the joint

1:10:43

and he looked at me

1:10:44

and I know he was sincere

1:10:45

when he said it

1:10:45

he said

1:10:46

man

1:10:46

it felt like I just had

1:10:48

13 hours of anger management

1:10:50

right

1:10:50

and I was like

1:10:52

okay

1:10:52

I'm not trying to be a therapist

1:10:53

or anything

1:10:54

but that felt good

1:10:54

then at the end

1:10:55

we stopped

1:10:56

he's flipping burgers and shit

1:10:57

we got to know each other

1:10:59

we come in touch with each other

1:11:00

and he was doing a comedy festival

1:11:03

in Nashville

1:11:04

right

1:11:05

he appreciated me as a comedian

1:11:06

he said

1:11:07

yo D I'm doing this

1:11:08

I was like one of the first people

1:11:09

he called right

1:11:10

he said

1:11:10

you want to do it

1:11:11

I was like

1:11:11

why not

1:11:12

then I thought about

1:11:13

I was like

1:11:13

again what you're saying

1:11:15

I was like

1:11:15

what people are going to think

1:11:16

seven comedians

1:11:17

on the show

1:11:18

I'm the only black guy

1:11:19

I knew what I was walking into

1:11:20

I knew it was

1:11:22

going to be all

1:11:23

maggots

1:11:24

it wasn't going to be

1:11:26

a gay person

1:11:27

it wasn't going to be

1:11:28

a midget

1:11:28

it wasn't going to be

1:11:30

a lesbian

1:11:30

it wasn't going to be

1:11:32

anything but

1:11:33

bonafide

1:11:34

the real

1:11:35

real

1:11:36

red white and blue flag

1:11:38

motherfuckers

1:11:39

but I said

1:11:40

Donnell can you separate

1:11:41

can you go up here

1:11:42

can you perform

1:11:43

and

1:11:44

and be

1:11:45

entertaining

1:11:46

not shucking and jiving

1:11:47

or none of that type of shit

1:11:48

I went up there

1:11:49

last person

1:11:50

got a standing ovation

1:11:51

right

1:11:52

at the end of the show

1:11:53

this is what

1:11:54

people might not understand

1:11:55

and I'm not trying to

1:11:56

defend them or anything

1:11:57

at the end of the show

1:11:58

me and Kid Rock

1:11:59

in this case

1:12:00

I want to say

1:12:01

Kid Rock wasn't backstage

1:12:02

Bobby was

1:12:03

right

1:12:03

and he said

1:12:05

man

1:12:05

he looked at me

1:12:06

he said

1:12:07

man

1:12:07

I think we just

1:12:08

brought this country

1:12:09

back together

1:12:10

right

1:12:10

and I said

1:12:11

well don't separate it

1:12:12

motherfucker

1:12:13

he said

1:12:13

okay

1:12:14

two weeks later

1:12:15

he'd do some

1:12:16

other stupid shit

1:12:16

when

1:12:18

Trump got elected

1:12:19

I know people

1:12:21

went to his page

1:12:23

to see

1:12:24

what his response

1:12:26

was going to be

1:12:26

was he going to gloat

1:12:28

he was like

1:12:29

fuck y'all

1:12:29

this is America

1:12:30

he did this video

1:12:31

which I thought

1:12:32

was so dope

1:12:33

because it showed

1:12:34

two sides of him

1:12:35

it showed Kid Rock

1:12:37

and it showed Bobby

1:12:38

right

1:12:39

and then how they

1:12:40

both responded

1:12:41

to Donald Trump

1:12:42

being elected

1:12:43

the Kid Rock

1:12:44

was the

1:12:44

crotch grabbing

1:12:46

motherfucker

1:12:46

fuck you

1:12:47

right

1:12:47

then he came out

1:12:49

you find this

1:12:49

he came out

1:12:50

as Bobby

1:12:50

with shorts

1:12:51

just

1:12:51

no American flags

1:12:53

baseball cap

1:12:54

fucking reading glasses

1:12:56

or whatever

1:12:56

and I thought

1:12:57

it was dope

1:12:58

the dialogue

1:12:59

that he had

1:12:59

with it

1:12:59

he played the victory

1:13:00

he said

1:13:01

you know

1:13:01

we did win

1:13:03

he said

1:13:03

but this is not

1:13:04

a time to gloat

1:13:05

there's so much

1:13:06

stuff that we need

1:13:06

to do

1:13:07

he said

1:13:07

all sides

1:13:09

want to get to

1:13:10

a certain place

1:13:11

but we have

1:13:11

different ideas

1:13:12

on how we're

1:13:13

going to get there

1:13:14

I thought that

1:13:15

for whatever people

1:13:16

want to think

1:13:16

I thought that

1:13:17

was showing

1:13:18

another side

1:13:19

and also I told him

1:13:20

because I would

1:13:21

talk to him

1:13:21

off and on

1:13:22

I said

1:13:22

you know what

1:13:23

song you should

1:13:24

do

1:13:24

you should do

1:13:25

Nina Simone's

1:13:27

song

1:13:27

Misunderstood

1:13:29

right

1:13:31

just sing that shit

1:13:32

but I know

1:13:32

he wouldn't

1:13:33

never do that

1:13:33

because

1:13:34

the bass

1:13:35

that really

1:13:35

likes a

1:13:36

he's soft

1:13:38

now

1:13:39

the point

1:13:40

I'm making

1:13:40

even though

1:13:41

with Tony

1:13:42

with the situation

1:13:43

I consider Tony

1:13:44

a good friend of mine

1:13:45

for different reasons

1:13:46

right

1:13:46

that's why

1:13:47

I wanted to have

1:13:47

that moment

1:13:48

to say that

1:13:49

but Rob Schneider

1:13:50

as much as they say

1:13:51

I took away

1:13:51

from moments

1:13:51

on that show

1:13:52

he took away

1:13:53

from that moment

1:13:53

I wasn't trying

1:13:54

to be a bitch

1:13:55

I wasn't trying

1:13:55

to be soft

1:13:55

but I wanted to say

1:13:56

I apologize

1:13:57

because sometimes

1:13:58

friendships

1:13:58

got to be stronger

1:13:59

than that

1:14:00

and that's where

1:14:00

I was with that

1:14:01

and as much as

1:14:02

I don't need

1:14:03

the Kill Tony show

1:14:05

and this is what

1:14:06

I always say

1:14:06

about that show

1:14:07

I said

1:14:08

there's not

1:14:08

that reminds me

1:14:09

Kill Tony reminds me

1:14:10

of the Def Jam era

1:14:12

right

1:14:12

and when I say that

1:14:13

there was a platform

1:14:14

for undiscovered talent

1:14:17

people that you've never seen

1:14:18

for

1:14:19

it's such a spectacle

1:14:20

like Def Jam

1:14:22

it was people

1:14:22

that didn't

1:14:23

have the skill set

1:14:24

to fucking go headline

1:14:25

but they was being seen

1:14:27

same thing with Kill Tony

1:14:29

is your phone on

1:14:29

is your phone ding

1:14:30

shut the shut up

1:14:31

this is what I appreciate

1:14:33

about that show

1:14:34

for whoever

1:14:34

likes it or whatever

1:14:35

it's a platform

1:14:37

to get on

1:14:38

I travel around the country

1:14:39

it used to be

1:14:40

you remember back in the day

1:14:41

it was like

1:14:42

oh I need to be on Letterman

1:14:43

I need to be on Carson

1:14:44

or whatever

1:14:44

that is the

1:14:46

I gotta get on Kill Tony

1:14:47

100%

1:14:48

and in some cases

1:14:50

it's some good and bad

1:14:51

to that

1:14:51

there's some people

1:14:52

that was ready for it

1:14:53

there's some people

1:14:53

like you know what

1:14:54

you had two or three

1:14:55

minutes worth of jokes

1:14:56

you know what I'm saying

1:14:56

you're not ready

1:14:57

but it gave people

1:14:58

some hope

1:14:59

when I was staying

1:15:00

at the hotel the other day

1:15:00

three people

1:15:01

traveled across the country

1:15:03

like with the hopes of that

1:15:05

you know

1:15:05

so I know how important

1:15:07

that show is

1:15:08

you know

1:15:09

is it the fan base

1:15:10

I want them to be like

1:15:11

oh I can't wait to see them

1:15:13

but for me

1:15:15

I always

1:15:17

my whole career

1:15:17

I always wanted to be around

1:15:19

the people

1:15:20

the places

1:15:21

that they say

1:15:21

the best comedians perform

1:15:22

when I started

1:15:23

when I was in New York

1:15:25

I wanted to get past

1:15:26

at the Comedy Cellar

1:15:27

not because I wanted

1:15:29

to be a Cellar dweller

1:15:30

I didn't want to be

1:15:31

the guy in the back

1:15:32

fucking just

1:15:32

every weekend

1:15:33

just sit back there

1:15:34

telling what story

1:15:35

I was like

1:15:36

if this is where

1:15:37

the best comics perform

1:15:38

I want to be a part of that

1:15:40

I want to be past that

1:15:41

because when I got past

1:15:42

in the Comedy Cellar

1:15:43

it wasn't a lot of

1:15:44

black comedians

1:15:44

working in the Cellar

1:15:45

it was Greer Barnes

1:15:47

it was Keith Robinson

1:15:49

R.I.P.

1:15:50

it was William Stevenson

1:15:51

Patrice

1:15:52

Patrice

1:15:53

Dave Chappelle

1:15:54

in fact

1:15:55

Barry Katz

1:15:56

had a room

1:15:56

Boston Comedy Club

1:15:58

and it was

1:15:59

Black Night on Sundays

1:16:00

right

1:16:00

the black comedians

1:16:01

looked at me like

1:16:02

they'd say

1:16:02

where you going

1:16:02

I was like

1:16:03

I got a spot

1:16:04

at the Cellar

1:16:04

how the fuck

1:16:05

did you get

1:16:06

in the Cellar

1:16:06

the way I got into it

1:16:07

was

1:16:08

put the work in

1:16:09

I hung out

1:16:09

got a couple

1:16:10

of recommendations

1:16:10

and when it's time

1:16:11

for me to showcase

1:16:12

I did my thing

1:16:12

but the minute

1:16:13

I got past

1:16:14

in the Cellar

1:16:14

I didn't really care

1:16:15

about working there

1:16:16

all the time

1:16:16

I just wanted to be

1:16:17

validated as like

1:16:18

this is the spot

1:16:19

same thing

1:16:20

I get it

1:16:20

you know same thing

1:16:21

with the Comedy Store

1:16:22

same thing

1:16:22

with what you're doing here

1:16:23

it was that part of it

1:16:24

I get it

1:16:25

Greer Barnes

1:16:26

probably one of the most

1:16:27

underappreciated talents

1:16:28

in the country

1:16:29

but you know what

1:16:30

I've known that dude

1:16:30

for 30 years

1:16:31

he's a funny motherfucker

1:16:33

and he's been funny forever

1:16:34

you know it's so funny

1:16:35

that you said

1:16:36

underappreciated

1:16:37

because you know

1:16:37

when you

1:16:38

you know comedians

1:16:39

that put the work in

1:16:40

whatever

1:16:40

it's a phrase

1:16:41

that people use

1:16:41

underrated

1:16:42

but then you gotta

1:16:42

ask who rated

1:16:43

you didn't use those words

1:16:44

you said underappreciated

1:16:45

but he is

1:16:46

I don't know

1:16:49

sometimes you gotta

1:16:49

ask yourself

1:16:50

he's not underrated

1:16:51

by comics

1:16:52

he's underappreciated

1:16:53

by audience members

1:16:54

for whatever reason

1:16:55

I think it's

1:16:56

a social media thing

1:16:57

I just think

1:16:57

he doesn't have

1:16:58

a big presence

1:16:58

on social media

1:16:59

for whatever reason

1:17:00

he's a solid

1:17:01

solid fucking comic

1:17:03

though

1:17:03

always has been

1:17:04

and a solid guy

1:17:05

and a good dude

1:17:06

but that's another thing

1:17:07

this is the area

1:17:08

that we in right now

1:17:09

and it's like

1:17:09

and you notice

1:17:10

it's even more so

1:17:11

now

1:17:12

the most talented people

1:17:14

aren't getting the shots

1:17:15

if you don't know

1:17:17

how to evolve

1:17:18

well it's not

1:17:19

even just that

1:17:20

because like

1:17:20

look at Dave

1:17:21

not Dave Chappelle

1:17:22

excuse me

1:17:22

Dave Attell

1:17:23

Dave Attell

1:17:24

I think is one of the

1:17:25

funniest dudes

1:17:25

who's ever lived

1:17:26

ever

1:17:27

ever

1:17:27

one of the best comics

1:17:28

ever

1:17:29

in the history of comedy

1:17:30

and mostly does clubs

1:17:32

and does like theaters

1:17:33

and stuff like that

1:17:34

he should be

1:17:34

sold out arenas

1:17:35

all across the country

1:17:36

but he does not

1:17:37

promote himself

1:17:38

he's not into social media

1:17:40

he doesn't do much

1:17:41

other than specials

1:17:43

I don't think

1:17:43

I think Attell

1:17:45

would be petrified

1:17:46

not that he couldn't do it

1:17:48

and it was probably

1:17:48

remember with the show

1:17:49

he had

1:17:50

what was that

1:17:50

the late night show

1:17:51

that was before

1:17:51

anybody was doing it

1:17:52

yeah

1:17:53

the late night show

1:17:53

he'd go to bars

1:17:54

and stuff like that

1:17:54

insomniac

1:17:56

yeah

1:17:57

insomniac

1:17:57

this was before

1:17:57

everybody was doing

1:17:58

I don't think that

1:17:59

some people

1:18:00

they like

1:18:01

I think

1:18:02

he's always going to

1:18:03

make millions of dollars

1:18:04

touring or whatever

1:18:05

but I think his comfort zone

1:18:06

is like

1:18:07

he's not a club act

1:18:08

but he's a club comment

1:18:10

I think the best thing

1:18:11

for him he ever wants to be

1:18:12

is in front of 250

1:18:14

to 500 people

1:18:15

well he's awesome in that

1:18:16

but he does

1:18:17

like when Burt does arenas

1:18:18

he does arenas

1:18:19

and he murders in arenas

1:18:20

I think the real thing

1:18:22

with him

1:18:23

is that he's just focused

1:18:24

on his craft only

1:18:25

and the props that he gets

1:18:27

from other comedians

1:18:28

on podcasts

1:18:29

and things along those lines

1:18:30

is what really fuels

1:18:31

his popularity

1:18:32

and then when people

1:18:33

go to see him

1:18:34

just word of mouth

1:18:34

do you think some people

1:18:36

might be afraid

1:18:37

of a certain level

1:18:38

of fame

1:18:39

that they don't want to have

1:18:40

there is that

1:18:41

but I don't think he's that

1:18:42

I just don't think

1:18:43

he thinks about it

1:18:44

I mean he doesn't even

1:18:44

have a phone

1:18:45

like he carries a flip phone

1:18:47

with him all the time

1:18:47

he has an iPhone

1:18:48

that he like stores away

1:18:50

and sometimes he uses it

1:18:51

but when you text him

1:18:52

he texts you on

1:18:54

like doot doot doot doot

1:18:55

where you gotta press

1:18:55

four times to get an S

1:18:56

you know what it is though

1:18:56

Joe you know what it is right

1:18:58

well he doesn't want

1:18:58

to be distracted

1:18:59

he's in the Epstein files

1:19:00

yo you gotta have

1:19:04

he doesn't want to be distracted

1:19:05

you need a burner phone

1:19:06

if you heavily

1:19:07

in the Epstein files

1:19:08

no I think

1:19:09

he's only in the Epstein files

1:19:11

because he was on a lineup

1:19:11

that Epstein was gonna

1:19:13

go see at the cellar

1:19:14

I think David Tell

1:19:15

Louis J Gomez

1:19:17

is on that too

1:19:17

I like him

1:19:18

I think David Tell

1:19:20

is like

1:19:20

I think

1:19:21

Dave Tell's

1:19:23

ultimate happiness

1:19:24

is being

1:19:26

on stage

1:19:26

shut your fucking phone off

1:19:28

man

1:19:28

put that shit on silent

1:19:29

just put it on silent

1:19:30

do you know how to do that

1:19:31

you don't know how to do that

1:19:32

don't disrespect me like that

1:19:33

put it on do not disturb

1:19:34

you know how to do that

1:19:35

it's okay

1:19:35

it's off

1:19:36

it's off

1:19:36

okay

1:19:37

it keeps dinging

1:19:37

you popular motherfuckers

1:19:38

I think some people

1:19:40

I think

1:19:41

my opinion

1:19:42

David Tell

1:19:42

his comfort zone

1:19:43

is fucking

1:19:44

just being

1:19:45

as incognito

1:19:47

as he tries to be

1:19:48

it's just like

1:19:49

oh I came over this

1:19:50

but I don't know

1:19:51

anybody that turns

1:19:52

over material

1:19:53

there's certain comments

1:19:54

you look at Joe

1:19:55

and you like

1:19:56

god damn

1:19:57

this motherfuckers

1:19:58

constantly trying

1:19:59

yeah always

1:20:00

like

1:20:01

when I work with Dave

1:20:03

he forced me to do that

1:20:05

Dion Cole is another guy

1:20:06

when I watch Dion Cole

1:20:07

does like

1:20:08

at the Hollywood Improv

1:20:09

I think maybe

1:20:10

three times a week

1:20:10

he just have a Monday night

1:20:11

and he just uses it

1:20:12

as a workout right

1:20:13

me

1:20:14

when I go into a spot

1:20:15

I'm trying to beat

1:20:16

the fuck

1:20:17

I'm trying to beat it up

1:20:18

so sometimes

1:20:19

I get distracted

1:20:19

on what I'm really there for

1:20:20

that's to work out

1:20:21

new material

1:20:21

there's a such

1:20:22

there's a different level

1:20:24

where you just like

1:20:25

you know what

1:20:25

I could deal with the silence

1:20:27

I could deal with something

1:20:28

not working

1:20:28

and when I watch people like him

1:20:29

there's another comedian in LA

1:20:31

by the name of Malik S

1:20:33

that doesn't have

1:20:34

all that notoriety

1:20:35

like that

1:20:36

but when I see him

1:20:36

I'm like damn

1:20:37

every time I see this motherfucker

1:20:39

he's working on some new shit

1:20:40

and has the same passion

1:20:41

everybody doesn't have that

1:20:42

that's why

1:20:43

David Till

1:20:44

will always give

1:20:45

other comics

1:20:46

something to like

1:20:47

try to achieve

1:20:48

because he's like

1:20:49

you ain't gonna see him

1:20:50

doing the same shit

1:20:51

it's always a flip

1:20:52

and that's what makes

1:20:54

him who he is

1:20:55

and that's why

1:20:55

he gets so respected

1:20:56

by something

1:20:57

well he's

1:20:57

he's only focused

1:20:59

on his craft

1:21:00

whereas some people

1:21:01

are really focused

1:21:02

on social media

1:21:03

and promotions

1:21:03

and they have a guy

1:21:04

that films them

1:21:05

doing a bunch of wild things

1:21:07

and edits with music

1:21:08

I've never seen

1:21:10

so many comedians

1:21:11

have full out

1:21:13

production crews

1:21:14

with them

1:21:15

right

1:21:15

on an intro

1:21:16

I know

1:21:17

on stage

1:21:18

they think that

1:21:18

that's what they need

1:21:19

you know

1:21:20

they think that's

1:21:20

what they need

1:21:21

to separate them

1:21:21

and it does

1:21:22

get them attention

1:21:23

but what

1:21:24

it takes away

1:21:25

it does

1:21:27

draw some focus

1:21:28

away from what

1:21:29

you're trying to do

1:21:30

which is work on your shit

1:21:31

and come up with new stuff

1:21:32

where a towel

1:21:32

doesn't have any of that

1:21:33

but with that said

1:21:34

it takes away

1:21:35

but then it also

1:21:36

lets you know

1:21:37

who the special people are

1:21:38

right now

1:21:39

fucking my goddamn

1:21:40

guy that services

1:21:42

my pool

1:21:43

and shit say

1:21:43

he's got a special

1:21:45

coming out

1:21:45

I don't know

1:21:46

who doesn't have

1:21:46

a special coming out

1:21:47

and the thing about it

1:21:48

it's like

1:21:49

now Joe

1:21:49

you know it

1:21:50

specials aren't

1:21:51

if you really look at it

1:21:52

specials aren't special anymore

1:21:54

it's special

1:21:54

it's a weird word right

1:21:55

specials are a weird word

1:21:57

it's special

1:21:59

I got a new special

1:22:00

like no other art form

1:22:01

calls it a special

1:22:02

like if someone

1:22:03

like Taylor Swift

1:22:04

puts out a concert video

1:22:06

it's a video of her performance

1:22:08

you know

1:22:09

a musician puts out a video

1:22:11

it's that

1:22:11

it's like for a comic

1:22:12

we got a weird word

1:22:14

special

1:22:15

you know what special is

1:22:16

now

1:22:16

when you get excited

1:22:17

about special

1:22:18

if people still do that

1:22:19

it's who's putting it out

1:22:20

it's special people

1:22:21

that do it

1:22:22

it's special people

1:22:23

that are like

1:22:24

Sebastian

1:22:25

he's doing it special

1:22:26

you know what I'm saying

1:22:27

fucking Tom

1:22:29

does a special

1:22:29

it's special people

1:22:30

where you know it's special

1:22:31

and a lot of them now

1:22:33

it's just people

1:22:33

that's doing 45 minutes

1:22:35

worth of comedy

1:22:35

no beginning

1:22:37

no middle

1:22:37

no end

1:22:38

no point of view

1:22:39

you don't know

1:22:40

anything about them

1:22:40

it's just like

1:22:41

the same way

1:22:42

they do photo dumps

1:22:43

it's just like

1:22:43

joke dumps

1:22:44

right

1:22:45

but I'll just say

1:22:46

and I'm not

1:22:47

people say

1:22:47

Dave Chappelle's

1:22:49

butt play

1:22:50

but one thing I could say

1:22:51

however you

1:22:52

look at

1:22:53

Dave Chappelle's a what?

1:22:53

no I'm Dave Chappelle's

1:22:55

butt plug

1:22:55

I'm going back to

1:22:56

that's what people

1:22:57

you know

1:22:57

you gotta stop

1:22:59

listening to what

1:23:00

other people say

1:23:01

Joe

1:23:01

I'm second way

1:23:03

into a story

1:23:04

is it about

1:23:07

Jamie wearing a Fonzie jacket?

1:23:08

hey

1:23:09

he's got him

1:23:12

in all colors

1:23:13

he's got him

1:23:14

in all colors

1:23:14

he's got a red

1:23:15

white and blue one

1:23:15

he took it off

1:23:17

before the show

1:23:17

people get so critical

1:23:19

but at a certain point

1:23:21

people evolve

1:23:23

people that

1:23:25

you know them

1:23:26

a certain way

1:23:27

but then you're talking

1:23:27

about a person

1:23:28

who has a 35

1:23:28

40 year career

1:23:30

like people

1:23:30

like well

1:23:31

this last special

1:23:32

so and so did

1:23:33

it wasn't that funny

1:23:34

but how often

1:23:35

how long

1:23:36

are you going to

1:23:37

just be like

1:23:37

rip roaring funny

1:23:38

some people

1:23:39

have a position

1:23:40

where when they

1:23:41

talk people listen

1:23:41

and I look at

1:23:43

I'll use Dave

1:23:43

as an example

1:23:44

if you look at

1:23:45

all is special

1:23:46

20 years from now

1:23:48

right

1:23:48

you have a Netflix

1:23:50

and chill day

1:23:50

or whatever

1:23:51

if you play

1:23:53

all is special

1:23:54

that Dave

1:23:54

ever did

1:23:55

you would know

1:23:56

exactly what was

1:23:57

going on in the world

1:23:58

at that time

1:23:59

you know what I mean

1:24:01

right

1:24:01

you know what's going

1:24:02

some people put out

1:24:03

singles

1:24:03

they got one or two jokes

1:24:04

and some people

1:24:04

put out albums

1:24:07

he's one of those people

1:24:09

Sebastian is another one

1:24:10

and you look at like

1:24:11

you see how his

1:24:12

comedy is involved

1:24:13

people get older

1:24:13

they have different

1:24:15

perspective on life

1:24:16

and that's what you

1:24:16

have to fucking

1:24:17

accept him for

1:24:18

but we don't

1:24:19

we don't do that

1:24:20

right

1:24:20

and another thing

1:24:21

I don't know

1:24:22

if this is prevalent

1:24:24

in your community

1:24:26

and when I say that

1:24:27

your community

1:24:27

is a lot of people

1:24:28

but

1:24:29

my community man

1:24:31

it's just

1:24:32

so much

1:24:33

dumb

1:24:34

beef

1:24:34

and I've

1:24:36

it's only

1:24:37

one white

1:24:38

beef

1:24:39

I've ever known

1:24:40

about

1:24:40

and that's yours

1:24:41

mine

1:24:43

yes

1:24:43

what do you mean

1:24:45

the beef that you had

1:24:47

with it

1:24:47

I don't even

1:24:47

with benzina

1:24:48

yeah years ago

1:24:49

well that was the same

1:24:50

thing like with cat

1:24:51

like some shit

1:24:52

just has to be exposed

1:24:54

that was a real

1:24:55

problem man

1:24:56

you weren't around

1:24:56

the store back then

1:24:57

but it was a real

1:24:58

problem

1:24:58

where he had

1:25:00

that special

1:25:01

or that show

1:25:02

rather on comedy

1:25:02

central after Dave

1:25:03

left

1:25:04

which was basically

1:25:05

doing his version

1:25:06

of Dave's sketches

1:25:07

and he was

1:25:09

Steve

1:25:10

do you think

1:25:10

it was his version

1:25:11

of Dave's sketches

1:25:12

it was a lot of shit

1:25:12

was like the one

1:25:13

when he dressed

1:25:14

like the white guy

1:25:15

and had white paint

1:25:15

on his face

1:25:16

and wore the white wig

1:25:17

it was basically

1:25:17

the same character

1:25:18

that Dave was doing

1:25:19

yeah but if you look

1:25:20

at the history

1:25:20

of sketch comedy

1:25:21

I don't think

1:25:21

Dave was the first

1:25:22

person to ever

1:25:23

paint and dress

1:25:24

himself up

1:25:24

to look like

1:25:25

yeah but it was

1:25:26

right afterwards

1:25:27

right after

1:25:29

same slot

1:25:30

anything

1:25:31

that came after

1:25:33

Chappelle's show

1:25:34

they would have

1:25:34

compared it to

1:25:35

Dave was saying it

1:25:36

yeah

1:25:36

Dave never talked

1:25:38

shit about nobody

1:25:39

he was like

1:25:39

this motherfucker

1:25:40

is doing my show

1:25:41

Dave was saying it

1:25:42

Dave doesn't talk

1:25:43

shit about nobody

1:25:44

right

1:25:45

it was

1:25:47

but that was

1:25:47

that was only

1:25:49

one of the problems

1:25:50

the real problem

1:25:51

was he would

1:25:52

sit in the back room

1:25:53

and watch open mic nights

1:25:54

and take their shit

1:25:55

like they would

1:25:56

flash the light

1:25:57

when he was in the room

1:25:58

so comics wouldn't

1:25:59

do material

1:25:59

they would start

1:26:00

doing crowd work

1:26:01

so why didn't he

1:26:02

get exposed before that

1:26:03

why did it just

1:26:04

because nobody

1:26:04

had the balls to do it

1:26:05

and then he had

1:26:06

because he was famous

1:26:07

at the time

1:26:08

and he was doing

1:26:08

and look it

1:26:09

it cost me

1:26:10

I got banned

1:26:11

from the store

1:26:11

I lost my agent

1:26:12

and I was famous

1:26:14

I was on Fear Factor

1:26:15

I was rich

1:26:17

I had a lot

1:26:18

going for me

1:26:19

where I could

1:26:20

stick my neck out

1:26:20

but you came back

1:26:21

stronger

1:26:22

I give another example

1:26:23

like the same situation

1:26:24

with Dave in Comedy Central

1:26:25

and shit

1:26:25

as much as he went

1:26:26

through that

1:26:26

he took a 12 year

1:26:28

hiatus

1:26:28

whatever you want to say

1:26:29

what Dave showed

1:26:30

in that

1:26:31

is that he's a real artist

1:26:32

Dave just said

1:26:34

fuck it

1:26:34

I'm gonna disappear

1:26:35

for a while

1:26:36

like a legend

1:26:36

he just disappeared

1:26:38

I remember when

1:26:39

I was hearing stories

1:26:40

about Dave doing shows

1:26:41

where he would set up

1:26:42

a speaker

1:26:42

in Seattle

1:26:43

in the park

1:26:44

and just start doing

1:26:45

stand up

1:26:45

and people were like

1:26:46

what the fuck

1:26:46

and for no money

1:26:48

people would just show up

1:26:49

and he would just do

1:26:50

street performances

1:26:51

but you know

1:26:52

what was kind of

1:26:53

where he got the film

1:26:53

you've heard of a comment

1:26:54

I'm pretty sure of it

1:26:55

Charlie Barnett

1:26:56

100%

1:26:57

yeah we played Charlie Barnett

1:26:58

on the show

1:26:58

I knew Charlie

1:26:59

Charlie was like

1:27:00

if you ever thought

1:27:01

you were funny

1:27:02

or whatever

1:27:03

go

1:27:03

this is what

1:27:04

the art of

1:27:05

only people I've ever known

1:27:06

that got certain levels

1:27:07

of success

1:27:07

were Charlie Barnett

1:27:09

Michael Collier

1:27:09

when he used to live in his beach

1:27:10

but people don't understand

1:27:12

how Charlie Barnett

1:27:14

would like

1:27:16

to go to a park

1:27:18

go to the center of

1:27:19

Washington Square Park

1:27:20

and get to gather around

1:27:21

a bunch of people

1:27:22

in a circle

1:27:22

it's a certain technique

1:27:24

not only that

1:27:24

you gotta hold their attention

1:27:26

for one joke

1:27:26

you gotta get them involved

1:27:29

and you build this audience up

1:27:32

and then it's really

1:27:33

for one joke

1:27:33

a lot of people don't know

1:27:34

that Charlie got

1:27:35

Saturday Night Live

1:27:36

but he couldn't read

1:27:37

yeah he couldn't

1:27:37

and that's what

1:27:38

opened up the door

1:27:39

but he was so gangster

1:27:42

like when they wouldn't

1:27:43

give him spots

1:27:44

because you know

1:27:44

he was probably a bit

1:27:45

to deal with

1:27:46

he would go to

1:27:47

the Boston Comic Cup

1:27:48

and yell in there

1:27:49

don't go in there

1:27:51

I'm doing my show

1:27:52

in five minutes

1:27:53

the whole fucking club

1:27:55

would come out

1:27:57

that's how much power

1:27:59

he had

1:27:59

but then sometimes

1:28:00

that we become victims

1:28:02

of our own vices

1:28:04

and everything

1:28:04

and destroy us

1:28:05

more than anything

1:28:06

that's why when people

1:28:07

talk shit about

1:28:08

like they

1:28:09

or Kevin Hart

1:28:11

didn't get it out

1:28:11

the mud

1:28:12

you got funny

1:28:13

but you know

1:28:14

funny isn't everything

1:28:16

that's okay

1:28:18

you're funny

1:28:18

that's nice

1:28:19

oh so good

1:28:21

that you got talent

1:28:21

but more importantly

1:28:22

it's your work ethics

1:28:24

and how do you take

1:28:25

your God-given talent

1:28:26

and your passion

1:28:27

and turn it into money

1:28:28

you know

1:28:29

you're into music

1:28:30

and everything

1:28:30

you probably could name

1:28:31

a million saxophonists

1:28:34

or whatever

1:28:34

that didn't get to do

1:28:35

that you could be like

1:28:36

well listen to this shit

1:28:37

but for some reason

1:28:38

they didn't have

1:28:39

the business part

1:28:40

and all that together

1:28:42

and I'm going back

1:28:43

I'm probably talking

1:28:44

to circles now

1:28:44

but this is what

1:28:45

upsets me the most

1:28:46

about my folks

1:28:49

or whatever

1:28:49

these people

1:28:50

that go on these platforms

1:28:51

and talk shit

1:28:51

about people

1:28:52

there was a comedian

1:28:53

that was talking shit

1:28:54

about Martin Lawrence

1:28:55

right

1:28:56

well I saw Martin Lawrence

1:28:58

and Martin Lawrence

1:28:59

in the casino

1:28:59

you know

1:29:00

he's really

1:29:00

it's not that funny

1:29:02

I'm like this

1:29:03

motherfucker

1:29:04

he's Martin Lawrence

1:29:06

well they didn't know him

1:29:08

in the 90s

1:29:09

I used to have to follow

1:29:10

Martin Lawrence

1:29:11

at the comedy store

1:29:12

no this person particularly

1:29:12

no

1:29:14

if you just know

1:29:16

Martin Lawrence

1:29:16

period

1:29:17

that's enough

1:29:18

Richard Pryor

1:29:19

before he passed away

1:29:20

when he was in a wheelchair

1:29:21

damn near rolled him

1:29:22

out on the stage

1:29:23

sold out audiences

1:29:24

I followed him

1:29:25

for six weeks

1:29:25

I followed him

1:29:26

for six weeks

1:29:27

at the comedy store

1:29:28

when he was like that

1:29:28

certain people

1:29:29

Joe

1:29:29

I look at this business

1:29:30

are made people

1:29:31

how dare you talk shit

1:29:33

about this motherfucker

1:29:34

that's a good way

1:29:34

to put it

1:29:35

he's a made man

1:29:36

another thing Joe

1:29:37

a legend

1:29:37

you know

1:29:38

in this business

1:29:39

you can have a career

1:29:40

right

1:29:41

but you have certain times

1:29:42

when you just ruled

1:29:43

you had three years

1:29:44

Martin Lawrence

1:29:45

film star

1:29:46

movie star

1:29:48

comedy star

1:29:49

he had one period of time

1:29:50

for five or seven years

1:29:51

when it was just

1:29:52

Martin everywhere

1:29:53

how dare you

1:29:54

as a person gets older

1:29:55

and whether he has

1:29:56

a good bad

1:29:57

a night or a bad night

1:29:58

how are you to judge

1:29:59

and you ain't doing shit

1:30:00

how are you to judge

1:30:01

a motherfucker

1:30:02

that when I was

1:30:03

coming up Joe

1:30:03

every fucking black comic

1:30:06

in the business

1:30:06

wanted an audition

1:30:08

everybody wanted

1:30:09

to be hustle man

1:30:10

everybody wanted

1:30:11

to just get

1:30:11

two or three minutes

1:30:12

on Martin's show

1:30:13

because they knew

1:30:13

that would do

1:30:14

their career

1:30:15

so you judge

1:30:16

a motherfucker

1:30:17

years down the road

1:30:18

right

1:30:19

where they basically

1:30:20

when Martin goes out

1:30:22

guess what

1:30:23

Martin not doing

1:30:23

no tour

1:30:24

saying I'm doing

1:30:24

45 minutes

1:30:25

he's like

1:30:26

y'all want to see me

1:30:27

guess what

1:30:27

y'all gonna see

1:30:28

this young talent

1:30:28

you're gonna see

1:30:29

this person

1:30:30

I'm putting people on

1:30:31

how dare you even

1:30:32

have come out

1:30:32

your fucking mouth

1:30:33

and talk shit

1:30:34

about this motherfucker

1:30:35

how dare you

1:30:36

talk shit about

1:30:36

motherfuckers

1:30:37

and talk shit

1:30:37

about Kevin Hart

1:30:38

how dare you

1:30:39

talk shit about

1:30:39

a motherfucker

1:30:40

that was rocking

1:30:41

with a dude

1:30:42

Nate Smith

1:30:43

R.I.P.

1:30:43

passed away

1:30:44

I remember when

1:30:45

Kevin Hart

1:30:45

was the one

1:30:46

of the motherfuckers

1:30:47

doing those

1:30:47

comment cards

1:30:48

alright alright

1:30:49

I'm doing

1:30:50

email lists

1:30:52

one person

1:30:52

I remember when

1:30:53

fucking

1:30:53

Kevin Hart

1:30:54

had fucking

1:30:55

20,000 people

1:30:57

on Instagram

1:30:57

no on Twitter

1:30:58

and at the radio

1:31:00

he was like

1:31:00

yo

1:31:00

radio says

1:31:01

yo D

1:31:01

this is the problem

1:31:02

I seen the hard work

1:31:03

I see him

1:31:04

not just come

1:31:05

to fucking

1:31:06

New York

1:31:06

and do the black rooms

1:31:07

I'm doing the black rooms

1:31:08

I'm doing the white rooms

1:31:09

I'm doing all of this shit

1:31:11

how dare you

1:31:12

I'll just say this

1:31:13

and I'll answer this

1:31:14

it ain't no B for nothing

1:31:16

Cat Williams said

1:31:17

this is what Cat Williams said

1:31:19

about Kevin Hart

1:31:19

oh I find it very strange

1:31:21

that you just come

1:31:23

from New York

1:31:24

and then you have a TV show

1:31:25

and a movie show

1:31:26

and how does that happen

1:31:27

you were in New York

1:31:28

I'll tell you how it happens

1:31:30

you're on the biggest

1:31:32

showcase

1:31:34

in comedy

1:31:35

and you know what that is

1:31:36

JFL

1:31:37

just for laughs

1:31:39

Kevin Hart

1:31:41

was a product of that

1:31:42

Monique was a product of that

1:31:44

Dave Chappelle

1:31:44

was a product of that

1:31:45

no

1:31:46

Kevin Hart

1:31:47

wasn't pounding the streets

1:31:48

in LA

1:31:48

but he happened to be

1:31:50

on a showcase

1:31:51

when you

1:31:51

back in the day

1:31:53

you do it JFL

1:31:54

it was motherfuckers

1:31:55

leaving there

1:31:56

that probably had

1:31:57

$500 in the bank

1:31:58

leaving with a quarter million

1:31:59

dollar development deal

1:32:00

just to do nothing

1:32:01

that's the error it was

1:32:02

I remember

1:32:03

so just because

1:32:03

you weren't in LA

1:32:04

doesn't mean you wasn't

1:32:05

you wasn't beating the pavement

1:32:07

and I don't care

1:32:08

in LA

1:32:09

you got LA

1:32:09

in New York

1:32:10

nobody as a stand-up comic

1:32:12

grinds as hard

1:32:13

as a comic

1:32:14

coming from New York

1:32:14

opposed to LA

1:32:15

and the reason why

1:32:17

LA don't have that many stages

1:32:18

LA don't have that many stages

1:32:20

they tell you all the time

1:32:21

as a stand-up comic

1:32:22

if you

1:32:22

if you're trying to be an actor

1:32:24

whatever

1:32:24

go to LA

1:32:25

if you want to be a great

1:32:26

stand-up comic

1:32:26

bang it out

1:32:27

in New York

1:32:28

and this was

1:32:29

this was the rule

1:32:29

back in the day Joe

1:32:30

let Hollywood call you

1:32:32

you just don't go to LA

1:32:33

to sleep on somebody's couch

1:32:34

some people had that story

1:32:35

but it was like you grind

1:32:36

and back then

1:32:38

everybody's got their own path

1:32:39

you can do whatever the fuck you want

1:32:41

it's just work on your act

1:32:42

that's the point that I'm making

1:32:43

yeah

1:32:44

it's just everybody's got their own path

1:32:46

the real problem

1:32:47

in this conversation

1:32:48

is what I said earlier

1:32:49

it's worrying about

1:32:50

what other people think

1:32:51

the more you spend time

1:32:53

worrying about what other people think

1:32:54

the less you're worrying

1:32:55

about what you're doing

1:32:56

you want less you're thinking

1:32:58

about what you're actually

1:32:59

trying to achieve

1:33:00

and I listen to what you're saying

1:33:01

and I don't listen to what you're saying

1:33:03

and the reason why I say that

1:33:05

every time I go into this rabbit hole

1:33:07

or whatever

1:33:07

it's the echo

1:33:09

it's like a

1:33:10

a rogan angel right here

1:33:12

and is whispering

1:33:13

don't read the comments

1:33:14

yeah but I'm right

1:33:15

I still read them

1:33:17

I know you shouldn't

1:33:18

but I'm stopping

1:33:19

but this is another thing

1:33:20

I didn't know

1:33:21

what I didn't know

1:33:22

is that

1:33:24

white comedians

1:33:26

actually

1:33:27

have beef

1:33:29

with each other

1:33:30

I did not know

1:33:33

or at least

1:33:33

it's not

1:33:34

you don't hear about it

1:33:36

it's rare

1:33:37

it's more rare

1:33:38

and the ones

1:33:39

who have beef

1:33:40

are usually failures

1:33:41

they're usually

1:33:42

people that aren't doing well

1:33:43

I got an example

1:33:45

I'm exposing the industry right now

1:33:47

I'm not exposing

1:33:48

I have an example

1:33:49

it's so funny

1:33:50

and this was interesting

1:33:51

I was at the comedy store

1:33:53

are you telling me this

1:33:54

this is so fucking funny to me

1:33:57

about two months ago

1:33:59

right

1:33:59

I'm good friends

1:34:00

with Bill Burr

1:34:01

you know we did

1:34:02

we had the rich bitch tour

1:34:03

with Charlie Murphy

1:34:04

me Bill Burr years ago

1:34:05

and I know

1:34:07

Mark Maron

1:34:08

right

1:34:09

I don't know

1:34:10

what I found out is

1:34:11

I didn't know Mark Maron

1:34:13

the way white people

1:34:13

know Mark Maron

1:34:15

right

1:34:15

so I know Mark Maron

1:34:18

like when I see Mark Maron

1:34:19

and I was like

1:34:19

oh that's the guy

1:34:20

that had one of the greatest podcasts out

1:34:22

that guy that was

1:34:24

one of the alternative comedy favorites

1:34:26

Mark Maron's special

1:34:27

so when I see Mark Maron

1:34:29

I have a certain level of respect

1:34:30

like oh that's the guy

1:34:31

who did it

1:34:32

whatever

1:34:32

so I was doing

1:34:33

Annie Letterman's show

1:34:34

for what

1:34:35

Annie Wood

1:34:36

or whatever right

1:34:37

and I love that girl

1:34:38

and I'm in the green room

1:34:40

and I'm smoking a joint

1:34:41

I forget who sponsored this weed

1:34:42

but it was incredible

1:34:43

right

1:34:44

so I'm in there

1:34:45

and I'm cracking jokes

1:34:46

Bill is right there

1:34:47

and then Mark is over

1:34:49

by the side of the door

1:34:50

and I'm cracking jokes

1:34:51

with Bill and everything

1:34:52

and I felt something

1:34:53

nobody was really laughing

1:34:55

at my jokes

1:34:55

right

1:34:56

that all of a sudden

1:34:57

a whole fucking argument

1:34:59

popped off

1:34:59

and it was like

1:35:00

it was white argument

1:35:02

because it was so nice

1:35:04

they were so gentlemen

1:35:06

to each other

1:35:06

it was a whole bunch of

1:35:07

oh yeah

1:35:08

but you'll never do my podcast

1:35:10

it was like podcast beats

1:35:11

I'm right in the middle

1:35:13

I don't even know

1:35:14

I didn't even know

1:35:15

that they had beef like this

1:35:16

but they were so gentle about it

1:35:18

but I tell you the difference

1:35:19

between white beef

1:35:19

and black beef

1:35:20

I never felt

1:35:21

that I was going to get shot

1:35:22

yo I felt so safe

1:35:26

yo if anything

1:35:28

I thought it'd be like

1:35:29

lawsuits the next morning

1:35:31

defamation of character

1:35:32

slander

1:35:33

but I never knew

1:35:34

that it was fucking

1:35:35

Caucasian

1:35:36

on Caucasian beef like that

1:35:38

but this is an example

1:35:39

and it was entertaining

1:35:39

this is an example

1:35:40

Mark Maron was doing

1:35:42

really well

1:35:42

at one point in time

1:35:43

in his career

1:35:43

and now he's not

1:35:44

so Mark Maron

1:35:45

had the number one podcast

1:35:46

and after a while

1:35:47

his podcast wasn't even

1:35:48

in the top 200

1:35:49

it dropped off

1:35:51

Bill Burr

1:35:52

his career's

1:35:53

took off

1:35:54

he's doing arenas

1:35:56

he's killing it

1:35:56

Mark's not

1:35:57

and Mark finds reasons

1:36:00

to criticize other people

1:36:01

that are doing much better

1:36:02

than him

1:36:02

and he focuses on that

1:36:04

because he thinks

1:36:04

he should be getting

1:36:05

more than he deserves

1:36:06

but do you think

1:36:06

that's going back

1:36:07

to being a provocateur

1:36:08

he knows if he talked

1:36:09

to shit

1:36:09

people aren't engaged

1:36:10

think it's going back

1:36:10

to being bitter

1:36:11

and jealous

1:36:12

and thinking about

1:36:13

other people

1:36:13

instead of thinking

1:36:14

about himself

1:36:14

and why people

1:36:15

don't want to go

1:36:15

see him anymore

1:36:16

he was upset

1:36:18

when we left

1:36:19

the comedy store

1:36:19

because we took

1:36:20

the crowds away

1:36:20

and it's like

1:36:21

hey you were on

1:36:22

the fucking marquee too

1:36:23

man

1:36:24

right

1:36:24

they're not coming

1:36:25

to see you

1:36:26

and the reason

1:36:26

why they're not

1:36:27

coming to see you

1:36:27

is because

1:36:28

you're not doing well

1:36:28

and your podcast

1:36:29

was in the top

1:36:31

it was number one

1:36:32

and when it was

1:36:33

at number one

1:36:33

by the way

1:36:34

that's what I always

1:36:34

say about Mark Maron

1:36:35

he was great

1:36:36

Mark Maron was fun

1:36:38

to hang out with

1:36:38

when he was killing it

1:36:39

because he was happy

1:36:40

because he was getting

1:36:42

validation

1:36:42

because he had

1:36:43

the number one podcast

1:36:44

we were friends

1:36:44

like I did his podcast

1:36:46

he did mine

1:36:46

we had a good time

1:36:47

I'd hug him

1:36:48

when I see him

1:36:49

like we had gone

1:36:50

back and forth

1:36:51

many times

1:36:52

of having beef

1:36:52

with each other

1:36:53

his problem

1:36:54

let me finish

1:36:54

his problem

1:36:55

was when

1:36:56

everybody else

1:36:57

started doing really good

1:36:58

and he started

1:36:59

dropping off

1:36:59

that's what happened

1:37:01

just what I don't understand

1:37:02

why can't people

1:37:03

understand that

1:37:04

you have a moment

1:37:05

like I was talking

1:37:06

because he's

1:37:06

a fucking narcissist

1:37:08

and he wants the moment

1:37:09

to always be around him

1:37:10

he wants it to always

1:37:11

be about him

1:37:12

and when other people

1:37:12

are doing better than him

1:37:13

he wants to talk shit

1:37:14

about them

1:37:15

and that's where

1:37:15

Bill had a problem with it

1:37:17

you think being a narcissist

1:37:17

in this field

1:37:18

is a bad thing

1:37:19

for some reason

1:37:20

I think that kind of

1:37:20

fuels you to be

1:37:21

the person that you are

1:37:22

to be determined to do

1:37:23

and not give a fuck

1:37:24

about what nobody thinks

1:37:25

well having

1:37:26

self-respect

1:37:27

and having

1:37:28

an ego

1:37:29

where you care

1:37:30

about what you put out

1:37:31

yes

1:37:32

that's a good thing

1:37:33

but making it all

1:37:34

about you

1:37:35

and not being able

1:37:35

to appreciate

1:37:36

other people's work

1:37:37

is crazy

1:37:37

because other people

1:37:38

doing well

1:37:39

can be fuel

1:37:40

for you

1:37:41

to be inspired

1:37:42

and do better yourself

1:37:43

and it's a positive thing

1:37:45

and if these people

1:37:46

are your friends

1:37:46

and you love them

1:37:47

and you care about them

1:37:48

you should be happy

1:37:48

that they're killing it

1:37:49

and if you're not

1:37:50

killing it anymore

1:37:51

you should try to figure out

1:37:52

why

1:37:52

because it's not like

1:37:53

the door's not open

1:37:54

it's not like you're not

1:37:55

getting on stage

1:37:55

it's not like you're not

1:37:56

putting out specials

1:37:57

you should probably figure out

1:37:58

why your podcast dropped

1:38:00

from number one

1:38:02

to not even

1:38:03

in the top 200 anymore

1:38:04

without anything happening

1:38:05

you didn't get arrested

1:38:06

there was no scandal

1:38:07

there was nothing crazy

1:38:08

you should try to figure that out

1:38:09

and he doesn't do that

1:38:10

because he's instead bitter

1:38:12

bitter and jealous

1:38:13

he's always been like that

1:38:14

I didn't know that

1:38:15

there's a story about Jon Stewart

1:38:16

and Andrew Schultz came on the podcast

1:38:18

and told a story about Jon Stewart and Maren

1:38:20

where Maren confronted Jon Stewart

1:38:22

where Jon Stewart got some television show

1:38:24

he called him a fucking sellout

1:38:25

he yelled at him

1:38:26

all this different shit

1:38:27

Jon Stewart left the show

1:38:29

and they hired Maren to do the same show

1:38:31

the same show

1:38:33

that he was calling Jon Stewart

1:38:34

for being a sellout

1:38:35

so how did you go from that to

1:38:36

for you to have one of the biggest podcasts

1:38:39

at some point in your career

1:38:40

you had to be likable

1:38:42

or you think people just wanted to do this show

1:38:43

there wasn't very many podcasts back then

1:38:46

the thing that killed Maren's podcast

1:38:48

my personal opinion

1:38:49

no hate

1:38:50

is that he has this rant

1:38:51

at the beginning of his podcast

1:38:53

that's not entertaining

1:38:54

I don't think it's good

1:38:55

and the rant was long

1:38:57

and he would just ramble about himself

1:38:59

was very self-obsessed

1:39:01

and I just don't think it was good

1:39:02

and I think that was part of the problem

1:39:04

it's also the problem was

1:39:05

how he interviewed people

1:39:07

he had a very confrontational interview style

1:39:09

specifically with some comedians

1:39:10

that he felt like were below him

1:39:12

or that he could pick on

1:39:13

you would think that that style

1:39:15

would work in this day and age

1:39:16

no no no no no

1:39:17

people don't want

1:39:18

always to be uncomfortable

1:39:19

they want to like you man

1:39:20

they want you to be a good person

1:39:22

people want train wrecks

1:39:23

they want train wrecks

1:39:25

for 15 second

1:39:26

or 30 minute

1:39:27

30 second Instagram clips

1:39:29

they don't want train wrecks

1:39:31

to be their primary thing

1:39:32

they're listening to

1:39:33

when they're in traffic

1:39:34

on the way to work

1:39:34

but the people

1:39:35

that host these podcasts

1:39:37

now like

1:39:38

I think people go

1:39:39

on these podcasts now

1:39:40

and like this

1:39:40

this is going to be clickbait

1:39:42

we're going to go viral

1:39:43

yeah but that's

1:39:44

they're not that talented

1:39:45

that's why they're doing it

1:39:46

is because that's their only

1:39:47

method of getting attention

1:39:49

if they were entertaining

1:39:51

and interesting

1:39:52

and fascinating

1:39:53

then their podcast

1:39:55

would be about that

1:39:56

you know what

1:39:58

it's all in what you're

1:39:59

trying to focus on

1:40:00

what I try to focus on

1:40:01

on my podcast is

1:40:02

who do I want to talk to

1:40:04

I never have someone on

1:40:06

and go

1:40:06

oh this would be great

1:40:08

it would be very controversial

1:40:09

people will fucking hate them

1:40:10

it'll be crazy

1:40:11

they'll say wild shit

1:40:12

I never do that

1:40:13

my podcast is only about

1:40:15

who do I want to talk to

1:40:16

that's why I have

1:40:17

a lot of people on

1:40:18

that aren't even

1:40:19

remotely famous

1:40:20

because they're interesting

1:40:21

right

1:40:21

I find them interesting

1:40:22

I find with a book

1:40:23

they wrote interesting

1:40:24

the documentary

1:40:25

they made interesting

1:40:26

I want to know

1:40:27

something about them

1:40:28

it stimulates my curiosity

1:40:29

do you think

1:40:30

that there's going to be

1:40:31

a shift

1:40:32

do you think that

1:40:33

these salacious interviews

1:40:35

these interviews

1:40:36

I don't think about it

1:40:39

that's my key

1:40:40

I don't think about it

1:40:42

I would say this

1:40:42

you know what's funny

1:40:43

about what you said

1:40:43

that I was with Dave

1:40:45

a while ago

1:40:46

and he echoed

1:40:47

the exact same thing

1:40:48

and I was having

1:40:49

this conversation with him

1:40:50

he said D

1:40:51

I don't even think

1:40:52

about that shit

1:40:53

yeah don't think about it

1:40:54

there's other things

1:40:55

to think about

1:40:55

this is

1:40:56

I've said this too many times

1:40:57

if people have heard this

1:40:58

before I'm sorry

1:40:58

think of your focus

1:41:00

and your attention

1:41:02

like a number

1:41:03

think of you have

1:41:04

like a hundred points

1:41:05

in a day

1:41:06

to spend on things

1:41:07

if you spend

1:41:09

thirty of those points

1:41:10

thinking about haters

1:41:11

or thirty percent

1:41:12

of those

1:41:13

thinking about bitter people

1:41:14

thirty percent

1:41:15

thinking about other people

1:41:16

that are doing better than you

1:41:17

that's thirty percent

1:41:18

that you robbed

1:41:19

from the hundred percent

1:41:20

that you have to focus

1:41:21

on your life

1:41:22

I have things to do man

1:41:23

I have a family

1:41:24

I have friends

1:41:25

I have loved ones

1:41:26

I have interests

1:41:27

I have hobbies

1:41:27

I have comedy

1:41:30

and podcasts

1:41:31

and the UFC

1:41:32

and all these different things

1:41:32

that I like to do

1:41:33

and I think about those things

1:41:35

I don't think about

1:41:36

negative stupid things

1:41:37

with people that have bitter

1:41:39

angry minds

1:41:40

that are concentrating

1:41:41

on other people's success

1:41:42

and trying to tear them down

1:41:43

all the time

1:41:44

because they're trying

1:41:45

to tear them down

1:41:45

all the time

1:41:46

because they compare

1:41:46

themselves to them

1:41:47

and they don't like

1:41:48

how they stack up

1:41:49

they don't like the fact

1:41:50

that person's doing better

1:41:51

they don't like the fact

1:41:52

that person's more successful

1:41:53

so they try to take things

1:41:55

either out of context

1:41:57

or they try to misrepresent

1:41:58

who that person is

1:41:59

they try to change

1:42:00

public perception

1:42:01

of that person

1:42:02

to try to drag that person down

1:42:04

and it's transparent

1:42:05

the reason why it doesn't work

1:42:07

is because people inherently know

1:42:08

what you're trying to do

1:42:09

it might get people

1:42:10

oh there's beef

1:42:11

oh there's beef

1:42:12

those are simple minded people

1:42:14

that you're always going to attract

1:42:15

but you're not going to change

1:42:17

people's opinions of things

1:42:18

it's a trick

1:42:19

it's a trap

1:42:20

that you're playing on yourself

1:42:21

it's a waste

1:42:23

of your precious resources

1:42:25

you only have so much time

1:42:26

in the day

1:42:27

my time I spend

1:42:29

on things that I think

1:42:30

are interesting

1:42:30

or beneficial

1:42:32

or things that excite

1:42:33

my curiosity

1:42:34

and I think that

1:42:35

is the way I like to live my life

1:42:37

now if you like to live your life

1:42:38

constantly engaged in beefs

1:42:40

and being filled with anxiety

1:42:41

and stress

1:42:42

and you want to do that

1:42:43

okay

1:42:43

but those are bitter fucking people

1:42:45

I don't want to be a bitter person

1:42:46

in another life

1:42:47

could you have been a therapist

1:42:48

well I majored in psychology

1:42:52

for the brief amount of time

1:42:54

that I was in college

1:42:55

that was what I was interested in

1:42:56

but it was

1:42:56

I was doing that

1:42:57

because I was fighting

1:42:58

at the time

1:42:59

and I was trying to figure out

1:43:00

how to manage my mind

1:43:02

so I was trying to figure out

1:43:03

the inner workings

1:43:04

of the human psyche

1:43:05

do you think

1:43:06

I know this is

1:43:06

I'm not

1:43:07

do you think

1:43:08

your success

1:43:10

made you

1:43:12

a more calm

1:43:14

person

1:43:15

to not give a fuck

1:43:16

well it certainly helps

1:43:18

right

1:43:18

you don't have to give a fuck

1:43:20

if you have enough money

1:43:21

that you could just like

1:43:22

disappear off into the sunset

1:43:23

never have to worry about money

1:43:25

because a lot of people

1:43:26

are always worried about money

1:43:27

and so you're always constantly

1:43:28

in this state of anxiety

1:43:28

trying to get more

1:43:29

that helps

1:43:31

but it's also

1:43:32

it's like

1:43:32

there's other things in life

1:43:34

I concentrate on my loved ones

1:43:36

I concentrate on my friends

1:43:37

I concentrate on things

1:43:38

I enjoy doing

1:43:39

on fun

1:43:40

this life is short man

1:43:42

you and I are 58 years old

1:43:44

we're more than halfway dead

1:43:45

why would you spend

1:43:47

time concentrating

1:43:48

on people you don't like

1:43:49

because it's one thing

1:43:50

if someone's wronging you

1:43:51

it's one thing

1:43:52

if you find out

1:43:53

you have a business partner

1:43:54

who's been stealing money

1:43:55

or you have someone

1:43:56

who's lying about you

1:43:57

shout out to Dane Cook

1:43:59

no I'm just saying

1:44:01

his own brother

1:44:02

I know Dane is like

1:44:04

just yeah the fuck

1:44:05

yeah it's very

1:44:07

very interesting

1:44:09

and I'm at a place

1:44:10

right now

1:44:10

I was with John Hamm

1:44:13

right

1:44:14

San Francisco

1:44:16

and I had just did a show

1:44:17

with Dave

1:44:18

and it was interesting

1:44:18

he said something to me

1:44:19

he's in the back

1:44:20

and he's with his wife

1:44:20

and me kicking it

1:44:21

he used to come out

1:44:22

to summer camp

1:44:22

and everything

1:44:23

hang out with us

1:44:23

I don't even want to say

1:44:25

we're like super friends

1:44:26

but we have mutual respect

1:44:27

for each other

1:44:27

and it was interesting

1:44:28

because we're in the green room

1:44:29

and this is after

1:44:30

I just slayed this audience

1:44:31

or whatever right

1:44:32

and I'm feeling good

1:44:33

and he said

1:44:34

Donna

1:44:34

he said

1:44:35

what is it that you

1:44:36

really want to do

1:44:36

he said

1:44:37

what is it that you want

1:44:38

I said what kind of question

1:44:39

he said no I mean

1:44:40

what is it what

1:44:40

is it TV

1:44:41

is it TV show

1:44:43

is it movies

1:44:43

I was like

1:44:44

John

1:44:45

I'm doing exactly

1:44:46

what I want to do

1:44:47

for me to be able

1:44:50

to wake up

1:44:50

not have to work

1:44:51

for anybody

1:44:52

call my own shots

1:44:54

make a fair wage

1:44:56

take care of my families

1:44:57

enjoy my friends

1:44:58

and everything

1:44:59

and it's me connecting

1:45:01

with a God

1:45:02

given talent

1:45:03

anything else

1:45:04

is a bonus

1:45:05

I don't look at it

1:45:06

like I need

1:45:07

the private jet

1:45:08

and everything

1:45:08

certain things

1:45:09

you know

1:45:09

that would be nice

1:45:10

but I just look at

1:45:11

what this life

1:45:13

has given me

1:45:13

and I'm appreciative

1:45:14

of that

1:45:15

I know so many people

1:45:17

that of my class

1:45:18

whatever

1:45:19

that aren't doing

1:45:20

nearly as well as I am

1:45:21

or even the ones that

1:45:22

alright

1:45:23

that don't mean

1:45:23

that they're happy

1:45:24

you know what I'm saying

1:45:25

so when he asked

1:45:26

my question

1:45:26

I didn't think

1:45:27

any bad of it

1:45:28

I was like this

1:45:28

I don't get

1:45:29

caught up on

1:45:31

looking at somebody

1:45:32

they got this

1:45:32

they got that

1:45:33

I like this

1:45:34

am I happy

1:45:35

am I comfortable

1:45:36

do I get to do

1:45:37

what I want

1:45:37

so whether

1:45:38

I tell people

1:45:38

all this all the time

1:45:39

whether I get

1:45:40

another film

1:45:41

opportunity

1:45:41

whether I get

1:45:42

another TV show

1:45:43

or whatever

1:45:44

or any of that

1:45:45

I'm living

1:45:46

what some people's

1:45:49

dreams are

1:45:49

yes

1:45:50

and it's not

1:45:50

my dream

1:45:51

it's my reality

1:45:53

yes

1:45:54

and I also

1:45:54

had to realize

1:45:55

this is so easy

1:45:56

for us to do

1:45:56

you can be so

1:45:57

connected with somebody

1:45:58

and even with

1:45:59

my situation

1:46:01

with my connection

1:46:01

with Dave

1:46:02

and everything

1:46:02

I'm a huge fan

1:46:03

of Dave

1:46:04

he's given me

1:46:05

great opportunities

1:46:05

and everything

1:46:06

but at some point

1:46:07

in my life

1:46:08

I had to say

1:46:08

you can't be

1:46:09

caught up

1:46:10

in somebody else's

1:46:11

dream so much

1:46:12

that you forget

1:46:13

your realities

1:46:13

and my reality

1:46:15

is whether

1:46:16

I'm alongside

1:46:17

of him

1:46:17

or what I'm doing

1:46:18

I gotta continue

1:46:19

to be Donner

1:46:19

Rollins

1:46:20

I gotta continue

1:46:21

to support my family

1:46:22

I gotta continue

1:46:22

to do things

1:46:23

that I do

1:46:24

and it's so easy

1:46:25

it's so easy

1:46:27

for me to get caught

1:46:27

up like

1:46:27

I'm rolling with Dave

1:46:29

we on the Jets

1:46:30

we doing this type

1:46:30

of shit

1:46:30

but then I'll lose

1:46:31

focus on who I am

1:46:32

and I realize

1:46:33

for me

1:46:34

and my career

1:46:35

continues to go

1:46:36

when I know

1:46:37

how to make

1:46:38

that separation

1:46:39

I do have

1:46:39

yeah but the thing

1:46:40

is even when

1:46:41

you're caught up

1:46:41

with Dave

1:46:42

you still love him

1:46:43

and you don't

1:46:44

hate him at all

1:46:45

you're not jealous

1:46:46

of him

1:46:47

not at all

1:46:47

you might get

1:46:47

caught up in the wave

1:46:48

because you're hanging

1:46:49

out with one of the

1:46:49

greatest comics

1:46:50

that's ever lived

1:46:51

but it doesn't mean

1:46:52

that it's a negative

1:46:53

and you know

1:46:54

another thing

1:46:54

let me add to that

1:46:55

and I'm not

1:46:56

blowing my own horn

1:46:57

or whatever

1:46:57

like you said

1:46:58

one of the greatest

1:46:59

comedians to ever live

1:46:59

right

1:47:00

if a person

1:47:01

had a conversation

1:47:01

with Dave Chappelle

1:47:02

people could say

1:47:03

whatever I'm worrying

1:47:04

about people think

1:47:04

if you ask Dave

1:47:06

who is in his

1:47:08

top five comedians

1:47:09

my name's gonna come up

1:47:11

so as much as people

1:47:13

they always talk about

1:47:15

they always try to

1:47:16

pin me like

1:47:17

blah blah this

1:47:17

and everything

1:47:18

I respect the fact

1:47:19

that he respects me

1:47:21

I respect him

1:47:22

when we work together

1:47:23

we push each other

1:47:24

we make each other

1:47:25

whatever people want to say

1:47:26

we make each other

1:47:27

better

1:47:28

and what other people

1:47:29

understand is that

1:47:30

like he's like

1:47:32

truly my friend

1:47:33

you know what I mean

1:47:35

it's not like

1:47:35

I just work with a show

1:47:36

he's my friend

1:47:37

and even when

1:47:38

some of my fondest

1:47:39

memories

1:47:40

especially when I come here

1:47:41

is when we was doing

1:47:42

those fucking shows

1:47:43

yeah

1:47:44

when we was doing shit

1:47:45

nobody was doing

1:47:46

when we were doing

1:47:47

those lockdown shows

1:47:48

man

1:47:48

that was fun

1:47:49

yo

1:47:50

that was wild times

1:47:51

it was

1:47:52

it was

1:47:52

it was already

1:47:53

we already have a community

1:47:54

we all have mutual respect

1:47:55

for each other

1:47:56

but the thing

1:47:57

that made that so special

1:47:58

wasn't nobody doing this shit

1:48:00

right

1:48:00

that's what made it

1:48:01

and it really

1:48:02

one thing about the pandemic

1:48:03

it made you appreciate life

1:48:06

a lot more

1:48:07

than before the pandemic

1:48:09

yeah

1:48:09

it made you appreciate freedom

1:48:10

freedom

1:48:11

the ability to do shows

1:48:13

yeah

1:48:13

remember we did those shows

1:48:15

outside

1:48:15

and everybody was wearing a mask

1:48:16

it was so stupid

1:48:17

but we

1:48:18

it did but we

1:48:19

and they all got tested too

1:48:20

we got

1:48:21

they was

1:48:22

I was

1:48:23

I had so much fun

1:48:24

during the pandemic

1:48:24

I was almost embarrassed

1:48:26

to show the pictures

1:48:27

I wanted to show

1:48:28

like faceless shit

1:48:29

yo

1:48:30

no mask

1:48:31

we would take pictures

1:48:33

and people was like this

1:48:34

look at him

1:48:34

he could kill my grandmother

1:48:36

yeah

1:48:36

alright first of all

1:48:37

you did it

1:48:38

Dave did

1:48:39

I was like

1:48:39

people was like this

1:48:40

oh it must be nice

1:48:41

to have rich friends

1:48:41

to have testing machines

1:48:42

I was like

1:48:43

you're absolutely right

1:48:43

it is

1:48:44

it's beautiful

1:48:45

it is the most amazing

1:48:48

shit ever

1:48:49

Dave Chappelle

1:48:50

raped my nose

1:48:51

for two summers

1:48:51

in a row

1:48:52

when we were doing

1:48:54

the shows

1:48:54

in the cornfields

1:48:55

and shit

1:48:55

but this is what

1:48:56

people don't understand

1:48:57

he took

1:48:58

the opportunity

1:49:00

that village

1:49:01

of Yellow Springs

1:49:01

he made it as safe

1:49:03

as it could be

1:49:04

like any place

1:49:05

we would go

1:49:06

hotels

1:49:06

everybody had

1:49:08

an opportunity

1:49:08

to get

1:49:08

everybody had

1:49:09

an opportunity

1:49:10

to get tested

1:49:10

and I remember

1:49:12

this was very interesting

1:49:13

when the bubble

1:49:15

we did

1:49:15

this was Bob Saget

1:49:17

R.I.P.

1:49:18

we were doing

1:49:19

these shows

1:49:19

and I think

1:49:20

that before

1:49:22

Bob passed away

1:49:23

when he came out

1:49:24

to Yellow Springs

1:49:24

and was hanging out

1:49:25

with Dave and us

1:49:25

and everything

1:49:26

it gave him

1:49:27

some incentive

1:49:27

to want to go back

1:49:28

on the road

1:49:29

and he just got

1:49:30

really excited

1:49:31

about doing it again

1:49:33

we did like

1:49:34

55 shows

1:49:35

the summer was over

1:49:37

the run was clear

1:49:38

we had no

1:49:39

positives or anything

1:49:40

Dave extended

1:49:41

the show

1:49:42

another week

1:49:43

and that week

1:49:44

was when the bubble

1:49:45

popped

1:49:46

right

1:49:46

and now

1:49:47

everybody's like

1:49:48

freaking out

1:49:49

like oh my god

1:49:50

these same women

1:49:51

that was

1:49:52

people's coming out

1:49:52

there when

1:49:53

they was getting

1:49:54

flown out

1:49:54

in jets

1:49:55

they weren't

1:49:56

getting traffic

1:49:56

but Dave created

1:49:57

his environment

1:49:58

he wanted his friends

1:49:58

around

1:49:59

they was

1:49:59

we was going

1:50:00

to restaurants

1:50:00

we would have

1:50:01

the whole spot

1:50:02

we was just

1:50:02

doing all this stuff

1:50:03

nobody was thinking

1:50:04

about the possible

1:50:05

consequences of that

1:50:06

and I remember

1:50:07

this one girl

1:50:08

was like oh my god

1:50:08

I don't even know

1:50:09

why I'm here

1:50:09

then I looked at Dave

1:50:11

I was like yo man

1:50:12

damn we almost

1:50:12

made it man

1:50:13

through he was like

1:50:14

Donnell

1:50:15

it's going to be okay

1:50:16

he said you got to

1:50:17

realize this is the

1:50:18

reason why we test

1:50:19

when we first got

1:50:21

our first positive

1:50:22

had we not been

1:50:23

testing it could

1:50:24

have been crazy

1:50:25

and we got a first

1:50:26

positive because dudes

1:50:27

went to do somebody

1:50:28

else's podcast

1:50:29

and they didn't test

1:50:30

remember that

1:50:31

I remember that

1:50:31

I remember that

1:50:33

because

1:50:33

I remember that

1:50:35

Cena

1:50:36

it was so funny

1:50:37

yeah that was here

1:50:38

yeah

1:50:39

and it was like

1:50:40

something was different

1:50:42

because we had

1:50:42

one positive

1:50:43

and you remember

1:50:44

that backstage

1:50:45

used to be packed out

1:50:46

it started getting

1:50:47

lower and lower

1:50:48

it was basically

1:50:49

like me

1:50:50

Siph sounds

1:50:50

somebody else

1:50:51

was in the green room

1:50:52

and then Big J came

1:50:54

that's one of my

1:50:55

good friends

1:50:56

Big J came back

1:50:57

and he had this look

1:50:58

on his face

1:50:58

like it's over

1:50:59

he came in there

1:51:01

and I looked

1:51:01

and I said

1:51:02

boss man got it

1:51:03

he's like yep

1:51:04

and another thing

1:51:06

Dave could have did

1:51:06

this is why

1:51:07

I respect his character

1:51:08

he could have been

1:51:09

at that time

1:51:09

he could have just

1:51:10

been in the mask

1:51:11

went on stage

1:51:11

went back out

1:51:12

he canceled the show

1:51:13

but the funniest shit

1:51:14

it's a hole at Stubbs

1:51:16

Roman sold out

1:51:17

right

1:51:18

and then Cena

1:51:19

comes back

1:51:20

and Cena was like

1:51:21

I need you to go out there

1:51:23

and tell people

1:51:24

that the show

1:51:25

is canceled

1:51:26

right

1:51:26

I said

1:51:27

you don't need me

1:51:27

to do that shit

1:51:28

nigga

1:51:28

because the minute

1:51:29

it's one thing

1:51:30

if I go out there

1:51:32

people gonna be like

1:51:33

show starting

1:51:33

right

1:51:34

and as a comedian

1:51:35

I'm not gonna

1:51:36

not tell jokes

1:51:37

and then I'm like

1:51:38

oh yeah Dave

1:51:38

not gonna show up

1:51:39

but that was

1:51:40

the crazy thing

1:51:41

about that

1:51:42

everybody

1:51:43

at the line hotel

1:51:44

they was making jokes

1:51:45

Joe

1:51:45

they call it

1:51:46

COVID row

1:51:47

because we had

1:51:49

the whole floor

1:51:49

had the whole floor

1:51:51

locked down

1:51:52

right

1:51:52

and everybody

1:51:54

on our team

1:51:54

got it

1:51:55

but it felt like

1:51:57

an old school

1:51:58

chicken pock party

1:51:59

you know what I'm saying

1:51:59

we got it

1:52:01

we got it

1:52:02

what I tell you man

1:52:03

what we did

1:52:03

like

1:52:04

everything was like

1:52:05

okay

1:52:05

make sure you had your vitamins

1:52:06

all that type of shit

1:52:07

but the beauty of it was

1:52:09

we was like

1:52:10

you know

1:52:10

people was testing out

1:52:11

like eight or nine days

1:52:12

right

1:52:12

so we thought

1:52:13

we was gonna leave

1:52:14

after a while

1:52:15

we was like

1:52:15

I was like

1:52:15

wait a minute

1:52:16

the next room

1:52:16

was gonna be in 10 days

1:52:17

and for some reason

1:52:19

everybody went back

1:52:20

to being negative

1:52:21

we closed

1:52:22

did more shows

1:52:23

and we got the fuck

1:52:24

about here

1:52:24

but it was a beautiful time

1:52:26

man

1:52:26

it was a beautiful time

1:52:27

it was a fun time

1:52:28

to be alive

1:52:28

yep

1:52:28

it was a fun time

1:52:29

but it was crazy

1:52:31

and then we did that

1:52:32

what that fucking joint

1:52:33

we did

1:52:33

it was in Tacoma

1:52:35

the Superdome

1:52:37

that was wild

1:52:39

27,000

1:52:40

25,000

1:52:41

whatever it was

1:52:42

we broke the Tacoma Dome record

1:52:43

I never been in a place

1:52:46

where the laughter

1:52:47

was so hard

1:52:48

it felt like helicopters

1:52:49

it was crazy

1:52:50

it was crazy

1:52:51

it was crazy

1:52:52

this is what I respect

1:52:53

about what you guys did

1:52:54

you got people saying

1:52:55

they doing arenas

1:52:56

and shit

1:52:56

but normally

1:52:57

but that was pre-COVID

1:52:58

brother

1:52:59

it was pre-COVID

1:53:00

yeah that was pre-COVID

1:53:01

that was before everything

1:53:02

popped off

1:53:02

but what I will say

1:53:03

what I will say

1:53:03

about a real arena show

1:53:04

you got

1:53:05

the arena show

1:53:06

where a quarter

1:53:07

of the venue

1:53:08

is being used

1:53:09

for stage

1:53:10

right

1:53:11

so it ain't the true

1:53:12

capacity

1:53:13

right

1:53:13

but the shows

1:53:14

you motherfuckers

1:53:15

were doing

1:53:15

it was

1:53:16

it was

1:53:16

in the round

1:53:18

right

1:53:18

well the wildest thing

1:53:20

was walking

1:53:20

through the crowd

1:53:21

to get to the stage

1:53:22

those are crazy times

1:53:23

you've experienced

1:53:24

this shit

1:53:25

of that walk

1:53:26

from your UFC shit

1:53:28

man

1:53:29

I'm so grateful

1:53:30

for you guys

1:53:31

friendship and everything

1:53:32

and for me

1:53:33

it was so special

1:53:34

for me

1:53:34

because

1:53:35

I didn't sell a ticket

1:53:37

nobody else

1:53:38

no opening

1:53:39

you and Dave

1:53:40

sold those tickets

1:53:40

right

1:53:40

but the best feeling

1:53:42

for me Joe

1:53:42

was when I go out

1:53:44

and DJ trauma

1:53:45

and be like

1:53:45

you seen him on HBO

1:53:47

The Wire

1:53:47

you seen him on BMF

1:53:48

whatever

1:53:49

but simple line

1:53:50

but you fell in love

1:53:51

with Ashley Larry

1:53:52

Chappelle show

1:53:52

and them people

1:53:54

fucking go crazy

1:53:54

I don't give a fuck

1:53:55

if you've ever been

1:53:56

in the fist fight

1:53:57

in your life

1:53:58

when you come

1:53:58

through them tunnels

1:53:59

you doing this shit

1:54:01

right here

1:54:01

you feel like Tyson

1:54:02

like just give me a robe

1:54:03

just give me a towel

1:54:04

I'm about to go

1:54:05

beat these motherfuckers up

1:54:07

and every show

1:54:09

we had

1:54:09

there was no room

1:54:11

for being okay

1:54:12

you had to be

1:54:12

on your game

1:54:13

every time

1:54:14

yeah

1:54:14

it was fun

1:54:15

it was a good time

1:54:16

well that was

1:54:17

when all that

1:54:19

COVID shit

1:54:19

went down with me

1:54:20

when CNN

1:54:21

turned my face green

1:54:22

that was because

1:54:23

of a Nashville show

1:54:24

that we were doing

1:54:24

that we had to cancel

1:54:25

yeah I didn't know

1:54:26

that's what that was

1:54:27

yeah we were supposed

1:54:28

to do a show

1:54:29

that weekend

1:54:29

and I got COVID

1:54:31

the previous weekend

1:54:31

I was doing an arena

1:54:32

with Tony

1:54:33

in Florida

1:54:34

and I got COVID

1:54:36

in Florida

1:54:36

and then I made

1:54:38

that video

1:54:38

on like a Tuesday

1:54:40

or a Wednesday

1:54:40

it was like

1:54:42

the third day

1:54:42

after I got COVID

1:54:43

when I got over it

1:54:44

and I was like

1:54:45

you know I feel fine

1:54:46

but we have to cancel

1:54:47

the shows this weekend

1:54:48

right

1:54:48

and that's when

1:54:49

all the shit went down

1:54:49

because I took

1:54:50

ivermectin

1:54:51

that was

1:54:52

that was

1:54:52

that was those

1:54:53

oh yeah I remember that

1:54:53

yeah they was like

1:54:54

oh he has to answer

1:54:55

everything

1:54:55

yo if you don't have

1:54:56

the answer

1:54:57

at least he's

1:54:57

fucking trying to find it

1:54:58

it's so

1:54:59

well whether or not

1:55:01

whether or not

1:55:01

I had the answer

1:55:02

the crazy thing

1:55:03

is I was better

1:55:03

I was already better

1:55:05

and they turned my face green

1:55:07

on CNN

1:55:08

like we got to see

1:55:09

how crazy the media

1:55:11

really is

1:55:11

like they didn't want

1:55:13

to hear nothing

1:55:13

but you have to take

1:55:15

this vaccine

1:55:15

and you have to do that

1:55:16

and if you didn't take

1:55:17

this vaccine

1:55:18

you're a part of the problem

1:55:19

it's sorry

1:55:20

I just don't

1:55:21

as devastating

1:55:23

as that time was

1:55:25

excuse me

1:55:27

I'm just

1:55:27

how is it just like

1:55:28

fucking

1:55:29

over now

1:55:31

is it herd immunity

1:55:32

how is it just like

1:55:33

yeah it's herd immunity

1:55:34

it's it's

1:55:35

yeah it's also

1:55:36

you know everybody

1:55:37

who got it got it

1:55:38

you got immunity

1:55:40

because of it

1:55:40

and then

1:55:41

also whatever variants

1:55:43

are still left

1:55:44

they're significantly

1:55:45

diminished

1:55:45

that's how viruses

1:55:46

it's like a cold strand

1:55:48

now right

1:55:48

yes

1:55:49

well that's how viruses

1:55:50

generally go

1:55:50

they become more

1:55:52

transmissible

1:55:52

but less potent

1:55:53

over time

1:55:54

yeah and that's what happened

1:55:55

I'm gonna tell you

1:55:56

there was a time though man

1:55:57

I even said man

1:55:58

maybe

1:55:59

it was just something about

1:56:00

how people

1:56:01

got along with each other

1:56:02

I was like

1:56:03

we should do like

1:56:04

once a year

1:56:04

just have a week

1:56:06

of just lockdown

1:56:07

yo just so you can get

1:56:09

it I mean

1:56:09

it makes you appreciate

1:56:11

freedom

1:56:12

that's for sure

1:56:12

it made me appreciate

1:56:13

nature bro

1:56:14

I bought a fucking house

1:56:15

in yellow spring

1:56:16

because I was like

1:56:17

you know what

1:56:17

trees woods

1:56:18

I don't know

1:56:19

if the streets

1:56:20

can handle this

1:56:20

but I became a bird watcher

1:56:22

bro

1:56:22

I watched bird

1:56:24

I watched birds

1:56:26

you know what that does

1:56:29

to my street credit

1:56:30

what

1:56:31

to know the difference

1:56:33

between the cardinal

1:56:33

and the blue jay

1:56:34

is that bad

1:56:35

it's not the most

1:56:36

listen

1:56:37

that's a blue jay

1:56:44

calling

1:56:44

I can't be in the street

1:56:45

talking about

1:56:46

it was good shit

1:56:49

if you can't appreciate

1:56:49

nature

1:56:50

that's whatever

1:56:51

that's a bullshit

1:56:53

narrative

1:56:54

that's ridiculous

1:56:55

here's the thing

1:56:56

I didn't crash out

1:56:58

today

1:56:59

didn't crash out

1:57:00

I know people think

1:57:01

I'm a crash out king

1:57:02

it's not that

1:57:03

sometimes I just need

1:57:04

to talk

1:57:04

you mean on the show today

1:57:05

yeah

1:57:06

what did I

1:57:07

no

1:57:07

no you definitely

1:57:08

accused Jamie

1:57:09

of wearing a leather jacket

1:57:10

Jamie did have a leather jacket

1:57:11

he had a leather jacket on man

1:57:13

and I think he brushed his eyebrows too

1:57:16

it was everything

1:57:18

I was like

1:57:19

I've never seen this sexy side of Jamie

1:57:21

he had like a British accent

1:57:24

he was like

1:57:26

I think you want a book

1:57:26

you only share

1:57:27

I was like

1:57:28

who is

1:57:29

he brushed his eyebrows

1:57:30

I was like

1:57:31

who the fuck is this person man

1:57:33

it was something different

1:57:35

we definitely went through something

1:57:37

that most people

1:57:38

will never experience

1:57:39

in their life

1:57:40

nope

1:57:41

and most previous generations

1:57:43

never experienced it

1:57:44

having a nationwide

1:57:45

worldwide pandemic

1:57:47

that everybody freaked out

1:57:48

and we didn't

1:57:49

not only did we

1:57:50

didn't freak out

1:57:51

we did shows

1:57:51

we had a good time

1:57:52

we hung out together

1:57:53

those after parties

1:57:54

when we go to the line

1:57:55

you had a DJ

1:57:56

we would laugh

1:57:58

and laugh

1:57:58

we would laugh

1:57:59

till 2-3 o'clock

1:58:00

in the morning

1:58:01

we had so much fun

1:58:04

girl I was dating

1:58:05

she couldn't believe

1:58:06

that she was like

1:58:07

I would be like this

1:58:08

so what do you do

1:58:09

I was like

1:58:09

well I was at the line

1:58:11

kicking it with Dave and Joe

1:58:13

what did y'all do

1:58:13

just talking and laughing

1:58:14

till 3.30 in the morning

1:58:16

they was like

1:58:16

get the fuck out of here

1:58:18

you was fucking

1:58:19

no I wasn't

1:58:20

we was just

1:58:22

on some brohood shit

1:58:23

it was just

1:58:23

it was really good

1:58:25

we had so much

1:58:25

and we also realized

1:58:26

how special it was

1:58:27

that we could do this

1:58:28

while the whole world

1:58:29

was locked down

1:58:29

yep

1:58:30

I'm telling you

1:58:31

I was embarrassed

1:58:32

to show pictures

1:58:32

my mother would call me

1:58:33

you better be careful

1:58:34

out there

1:58:34

I'm like man

1:58:35

I'm getting tested

1:58:36

we got tested

1:58:37

more than probably

1:58:38

anybody in the country

1:58:39

I got tested every day

1:58:40

because I was doing

1:58:41

podcasts through

1:58:42

the whole thing

1:58:42

I did your show

1:58:43

doing that one time

1:58:44

and then we didn't

1:58:45

I sat down

1:58:46

before I got the results

1:58:47

the last time I was here

1:58:50

you was like

1:58:51

did he get the test

1:58:51

I'm like

1:58:52

I'm like

1:58:54

please don't come in here

1:58:55

get this motherfucker

1:58:57

out of here

1:58:57

well we definitely

1:58:58

had a couple people

1:58:59

that tested positive

1:59:00

we had to get them out

1:59:01

and I tested positive once

1:59:03

but the thing about it

1:59:04

making those

1:59:05

taking those precautions

1:59:06

you could isolate it

1:59:07

you knew where it came

1:59:08

and you shut it down

1:59:09

that's one thing

1:59:09

if you're not doing that

1:59:10

it's all over the place

1:59:11

just think about it

1:59:13

imagine if Jamie

1:59:14

would have got COVID

1:59:16

then we would have

1:59:16

never seen his sexy side now

1:59:18

Jamie got COVID

1:59:19

he got COVID

1:59:19

before anybody

1:59:20

he got COVID

1:59:21

really early on

1:59:22

when there was no vaccine

1:59:23

no treatment

1:59:23

no nothing

1:59:24

he had to take

1:59:25

a whole week off

1:59:26

maybe that's

1:59:28

why he has

1:59:29

the attitude

1:59:29

that he has

1:59:31

yo y'all get

1:59:33

all this

1:59:33

but we did the Kanye podcast

1:59:35

you had COVID

1:59:36

that week right

1:59:36

yeah

1:59:37

yeah he missed

1:59:37

the Kanye podcast

1:59:38

yeah but I'm sorry

1:59:41

Jamie if you thought

1:59:42

I said anything

1:59:43

that was kind of

1:59:43

disrespectful to your character

1:59:44

well it was just

1:59:45

totally false

1:59:46

no it wasn't

1:59:47

I'm telling you

1:59:48

that fucking ponytail

1:59:49

I don't know

1:59:50

what the fuck

1:59:51

he did about it

1:59:52

like a Steven Seagal ponytail

1:59:53

like slicked back

1:59:54

and not only that

1:59:55

but he put his hair back

1:59:56

like this

1:59:56

almost like

1:59:59

like a diddy party

2:00:00

that's how he started

2:00:00

diddy parties

2:00:01

foiled up

2:00:02

yep

2:00:03

I don't want to say that

2:00:04

because I was

2:00:05

never mind

2:00:05

I never went to a diddy party

2:00:07

I have a photo

2:00:08

but I never went to a diddy party

2:00:09

Jesus Christ

2:00:11

yeah it's like

2:00:13

I think people are going to be wiser

2:00:15

if something like that

2:00:16

happens again

2:00:16

could it ever happen again

2:00:18

yeah 100%

2:00:19

yeah 100%

2:00:20

there's a lot of people

2:00:21

that think they engineered

2:00:22

that whole thing

2:00:23

they wanted it to happen

2:00:24

because the largest transfer

2:00:25

of upward transfer

2:00:27

of wealth in human history

2:00:28

so many companies

2:00:29

small businesses went down

2:00:30

look at

2:00:31

big businesses

2:00:32

got made more money

2:00:33

look what it did to Zoom

2:00:34

yep

2:00:35

Zoom took off

2:00:36

I remember Zoom

2:00:37

because I was

2:00:38

I had a show in Naples

2:00:40

where I met this doctor

2:00:41

that he wanted me to

2:00:43

be on this podcast

2:00:43

and I was like

2:00:44

how are we going to do

2:00:45

he said we can do it by Zoom

2:00:46

this was when it was only like

2:00:47

for like business people

2:00:49

it was really like

2:00:50

the nerdy thing

2:00:51

yeah that's what it used to be

2:00:52

yeah

2:00:52

it used to be

2:00:53

but the pandemic

2:00:54

it blew it up

2:00:55

it was like now

2:00:56

Zoom is like

2:00:57

that's the best way

2:00:58

you don't want to talk to

2:01:00

somebody on the phone

2:01:00

they call you

2:01:01

oh I'm on a Zoom right now

2:01:02

it is so like

2:01:03

in everybody's household

2:01:04

and that shit blew up

2:01:05

so many businesses

2:01:06

did the same thing

2:01:06

is anybody using that anymore

2:01:08

Zoom?

2:01:08

yeah

2:01:09

they use it for an excuse

2:01:10

not to talk to somebody

2:01:11

yeah

2:01:12

do they do Zoom podcasts anymore

2:01:14

do people do Zoom podcasts

2:01:15

I never hear that term

2:01:17

it used to be things like

2:01:19

oh we're going to do it on Zoom

2:01:20

I don't hear that anymore

2:01:21

a few other platforms exist now

2:01:23

I don't even think people discuss it

2:01:24

but like

2:01:24

yeah they had one one

2:01:25

was that Clubhouse

2:01:26

whatever

2:01:26

all of these things

2:01:27

oh yeah

2:01:28

Clubhouse

2:01:29

Clubhouse is a big one

2:01:30

that was a big one

2:01:31

where people were

2:01:32

essentially doing podcasts

2:01:33

like anybody could just like

2:01:34

just chime in

2:01:35

and talk shit

2:01:36

people was getting like

2:01:37

a million followers

2:01:38

in three days

2:01:38

oh yeah

2:01:39

there was a lot of that

2:01:40

and a lot of people thought

2:01:41

that that was going to keep going

2:01:42

like Clubhouse is going to be

2:01:43

the new thing

2:01:44

I'm like

2:01:44

it's just bad podcasting

2:01:46

and it's what

2:01:47

there was only

2:01:48

so many things

2:01:48

that battle

2:01:50

the versus battles

2:01:52

that they do now

2:01:52

when they have like

2:01:53

it's mostly

2:01:54

it's been hip-hop

2:01:55

and R&B

2:01:55

I think it was

2:01:56

who was it

2:01:56

it was

2:01:58

damn

2:02:00

Swiss Beats

2:02:01

and Timbaland

2:02:01

I think

2:02:02

they started this thing

2:02:03

during the pandemic

2:02:03

it was versus

2:02:04

right

2:02:05

where you have an artist

2:02:06

versus another artist

2:02:07

in like a competitive

2:02:09

type of situation

2:02:10

they didn't win anything

2:02:10

but it was just

2:02:11

entertaining for everybody

2:02:12

and that went from like

2:02:14

it was so low level

2:02:15

like people was in front

2:02:16

of their computers

2:02:17

it was freezing up

2:02:18

and everything

2:02:18

but it was what

2:02:20

everybody was doing

2:02:20

now that's like

2:02:21

one of the biggest things

2:02:22

now they did one

2:02:23

at Madison Square Gardens

2:02:25

like it's a big thing

2:02:26

now when you want to

2:02:27

it's just like a competition

2:02:29

like you got

2:02:30

I think that

2:02:30

they had cash money

2:02:32

and no limit records

2:02:33

but it's very

2:02:34

I don't see no white versus

2:02:35

but it's a popular thing

2:02:36

and it started

2:02:37

because of the pandemic

2:02:38

well so many businesses

2:02:39

started during the pandemic

2:02:41

because a lot of people

2:02:41

got laid off

2:02:42

so they started

2:02:43

their own business

2:02:43

a lot of online businesses

2:02:45

started

2:02:45

a lot of people

2:02:46

quit their jobs

2:02:47

because they realized

2:02:48

look they could just

2:02:48

take this shit away

2:02:49

from me at any minute

2:02:50

why am I doing something

2:02:51

that I hate

2:02:51

when I thought

2:02:52

there was security in it

2:02:53

there's no security in it

2:02:53

I'm gonna start

2:02:54

my own business

2:02:55

also even like

2:02:56

you're an example

2:02:57

of what happens

2:03:00

when you finally realize

2:03:02

that you don't need

2:03:04

Hollywood

2:03:04

the way it used to be

2:03:05

no

2:03:06

well we figured that out

2:03:07

a long time ago

2:03:08

we figured that out

2:03:10

when the podcast

2:03:10

started kicking off

2:03:11

in like the early

2:03:13

2010s

2:03:15

I realized that

2:03:16

I was like

2:03:17

this is

2:03:17

I don't need

2:03:18

TV shows anymore

2:03:19

we figured that out

2:03:20

in like 2013

2:03:21

2014

2:03:22

and Hollywood

2:03:23

is not like

2:03:24

it used to be

2:03:25

I'm a very old school guy

2:03:28

but I remember

2:03:29

when

2:03:29

when I first started

2:03:30

you couldn't make it

2:03:31

in this business

2:03:32

you had to be

2:03:33

in New York

2:03:34

or LA

2:03:34

yep

2:03:35

there was no

2:03:35

producers going to

2:03:37

if they wasn't going

2:03:38

to Toledo

2:03:38

Ohio

2:03:39

there was no way

2:03:40

this was big

2:03:41

well there was no

2:03:41

comedy communities

2:03:42

outside of New York

2:03:43

and LA

2:03:44

no not at all

2:03:45

not a real community

2:03:46

there might have been

2:03:47

like a good club

2:03:48

that had some

2:03:49

like Denver

2:03:50

always had like

2:03:51

good opening acts

2:03:52

good community

2:03:54

but it wasn't

2:03:56

like a real hub

2:03:57

like Austin is now

2:03:58

and that wouldn't

2:03:59

have happened

2:04:00

if it hadn't been

2:04:00

for the pandemic

2:04:01

people wouldn't have

2:04:03

moved

2:04:03

they wouldn't have

2:04:03

moved

2:04:04

no

2:04:04

and you brought

2:04:05

a whole community

2:04:05

here as much as

2:04:06

this place was always

2:04:08

big for music

2:04:09

whatever

2:04:09

but I mean

2:04:10

there's no way

2:04:11

anybody cannot

2:04:12

agree with

2:04:13

like what you did

2:04:14

and what you made

2:04:15

appealing to a lot

2:04:16

of people

2:04:17

is that

2:04:17

you could go

2:04:19

somewhere else

2:04:19

get a better

2:04:20

quality of life

2:04:21

yeah

2:04:21

and everything

2:04:22

lower cost of living

2:04:23

better quality of life

2:04:24

no traffic

2:04:25

nicer people

2:04:26

yeah

2:04:26

and no Hollywood

2:04:27

bullshit

2:04:28

the problem

2:04:28

with the

2:04:29

LA is always

2:04:31

going to be

2:04:32

poisoned by

2:04:33

the idea

2:04:34

of going there

2:04:36

to become famous

2:04:36

right

2:04:37

that whole idea

2:04:38

was

2:04:39

it was permeated

2:04:40

in the culture

2:04:41

of LA

2:04:41

and that fame

2:04:42

was like the

2:04:43

number one commodity

2:04:44

but back then

2:04:45

it was

2:04:45

that was the case

2:04:46

it was the case

2:04:47

but no

2:04:47

go ahead

2:04:48

I'm sorry

2:04:48

but the problem

2:04:49

is that's bad

2:04:50

for art

2:04:51

that's bad

2:04:51

for your ability

2:04:53

to produce shit

2:04:53

I mean

2:04:54

you got great comics

2:04:55

that came out of LA

2:04:56

but that was in spite

2:04:57

of what LA had to offer

2:04:58

right

2:04:59

it wasn't because of

2:05:00

whereas Austin

2:05:01

like the main reason

2:05:03

people come here

2:05:04

first of all

2:05:04

is Kill Tony

2:05:05

because like you said

2:05:06

Kill Tony is one

2:05:07

of the rare places

2:05:08

where you can be

2:05:10

a comic that's been

2:05:11

doing comedy

2:05:12

three four years

2:05:13

even just start now

2:05:14

but you got some talent

2:05:15

you can have a fucking career

2:05:16

like a real career

2:05:18

and it'll launch

2:05:18

look you got

2:05:19

Cam Patterson

2:05:20

who's on SNL

2:05:21

right now

2:05:21

you got all these people

2:05:23

like William Montgomery

2:05:24

David Lucas

2:05:25

they're killing it

2:05:26

on the road

2:05:26

selling out

2:05:27

everywhere they go

2:05:28

Ari Maddy

2:05:29

these guys

2:05:30

I mean

2:05:30

they have a real career

2:05:31

now because of Tony

2:05:31

but you know

2:05:32

another thing

2:05:32

that they don't understand

2:05:33

is like

2:05:33

this is what I say

2:05:34

and I use you

2:05:36

as an example

2:05:37

whenever you hear

2:05:38

about somebody

2:05:39

saying that

2:05:40

they want to do

2:05:40

a podcast

2:05:41

the first thing

2:05:41

a certain name

2:05:42

is like

2:05:42

I want to be

2:05:43

Joe Rogan

2:05:44

and I said this before

2:05:45

nobody wanted to be

2:05:47

Joe Rogan

2:05:48

fucking 25 years ago

2:05:50

they didn't want

2:05:51

to put the work in

2:05:52

they want to see

2:05:52

the accolades

2:05:53

the fortune you've built

2:05:54

they see that part

2:05:55

but nobody sees

2:05:57

the hard work

2:05:57

even with Kill Tony

2:05:59

the fact that

2:06:00

during the pandemic

2:06:01

when he could have

2:06:01

let the whole platform

2:06:02

just fall apart

2:06:03

like we don't know

2:06:04

when we're going to do it

2:06:05

he dug deeper

2:06:06

and figured out a way

2:06:07

I'm just going to

2:06:08

continue to do it

2:06:08

nobody

2:06:09

nobody ever respects

2:06:12

the journey

2:06:13

right

2:06:14

and if you think

2:06:15

about it Joe

2:06:15

and you probably

2:06:16

the same way

2:06:17

most successful people

2:06:18

and I know

2:06:19

some very very

2:06:20

wealthy people

2:06:21

right

2:06:21

and when they talk

2:06:22

about their career

2:06:23

whatever

2:06:23

they hardly ever

2:06:24

talk about

2:06:25

the yacht

2:06:26

they have

2:06:27

ever talked about

2:06:28

the fucking

2:06:30

mansion they got

2:06:31

in Paris

2:06:31

you know

2:06:31

they talk about

2:06:32

it was just

2:06:32

me and my wife

2:06:33

and we drove

2:06:34

a Toyota

2:06:34

you know

2:06:35

a Toyota Corolla

2:06:36

and we was like

2:06:37

we was down

2:06:37

to our last 10 bucks

2:06:39

and she did this

2:06:40

that's the most

2:06:41

interesting part

2:06:42

of this story

2:06:43

for most successful people

2:06:44

people don't understand that

2:06:45

right

2:06:45

they only think about

2:06:46

where you got to

2:06:47

and I want to get to there too

2:06:48

they want to skip everything

2:06:50

I hear people right now

2:06:51

I want to be like stand up

2:06:52

I'm like

2:06:53

alright

2:06:53

well

2:06:54

no

2:06:55

when I was doing HBO's

2:06:56

The Wire

2:06:56

right

2:06:57

this guy I knew

2:06:58

I grew up with

2:06:59

he was like

2:06:59

this motherfucker said

2:07:00

yo D

2:07:01

what's the number

2:07:02

to The Wire

2:07:03

I want to call him

2:07:04

I want to be on The Wire

2:07:05

like there's a wire

2:07:07

hey

2:07:08

is this David Simon

2:07:09

yeah

2:07:10

I could be Omar

2:07:12

they don't

2:07:13

I was like

2:07:14

and guess what

2:07:15

if I knew the number

2:07:16

to The Wire

2:07:17

I'm not giving it to you

2:07:19

I'm not giving it to you

2:07:19

I want you to get that

2:07:20

busy signal

2:07:21

that's what it's

2:07:24

nobody ever wants

2:07:26

to respect the grind

2:07:27

and they all

2:07:28

everybody wants the rewards

2:07:30

of the grind

2:07:30

but it's not everybody

2:07:32

it's just people

2:07:33

that are

2:07:33

they're missing it

2:07:34

they're not getting

2:07:35

what it's all about

2:07:36

what it's all

2:07:37

like Kill Tony's

2:07:38

a great example of that

2:07:39

I was there in the early days

2:07:40

of Kill Tony

2:07:41

when Tony started out

2:07:43

in 2013

2:07:44

there was no one

2:07:44

in the crowd

2:07:45

there was no one there

2:07:46

it was a small show

2:07:47

you'd have a few comedians

2:07:49

you know

2:07:50

I was doing it

2:07:51

back before I was back

2:07:52

at the comedy store

2:07:52

when I was still banned

2:07:53

so I was doing it

2:07:54

from the ice house

2:07:55

and he didn't do it

2:07:57

thinking it was going to be

2:07:58

the number one show

2:07:59

in the world

2:07:59

and he was going to be

2:08:00

on Netflix

2:08:01

and he did it

2:08:02

because it was fun to do

2:08:04

and he wanted to do

2:08:05

a great job

2:08:06

and he wanted to make it

2:08:07

better every week

2:08:07

and he kept doing it

2:08:08

and kept getting better at it

2:08:09

it's the same thing

2:08:10

with this podcast

2:08:11

this podcast didn't make

2:08:12

money for years

2:08:13

didn't make any money

2:08:14

for years

2:08:15

it cost money

2:08:16

but the most successful

2:08:17

people are the ones

2:08:18

like even with

2:08:19

when I first started

2:08:20

doing comedy

2:08:21

right

2:08:21

I never

2:08:23

do you have some

2:08:24

comedians that go out there

2:08:25

like I want to do comedy

2:08:26

I want to get the money

2:08:27

I want to get pussy

2:08:28

off of it

2:08:29

right

2:08:29

when I first started

2:08:30

I never

2:08:31

the only thing I wanted to do

2:08:32

Joe

2:08:32

I wanted to be good

2:08:34

I was like this

2:08:35

if I'm good

2:08:35

all those other things

2:08:37

that are rewards to that

2:08:38

that would happen

2:08:39

but I had to be good first

2:08:40

and here's the thing

2:08:41

that I think

2:08:42

especially when you have

2:08:43

these like social media

2:08:44

comedians

2:08:45

or whatever

2:08:45

the thing that

2:08:46

the interesting thing

2:08:47

about it

2:08:48

it's kind of

2:08:49

hard

2:08:49

to tell somebody

2:08:51

to work on their craft

2:08:53

when they're getting

2:08:54

all the perks

2:08:55

of what the craft

2:08:56

can present them

2:08:57

at an early

2:08:57

early stage

2:08:59

it's hard to tell

2:08:59

somebody

2:09:00

that's only been doing it

2:09:02

for two years

2:09:02

that's making

2:09:03

$50,000 or $100,000

2:09:04

a month

2:09:05

off of monetizing

2:09:06

something

2:09:06

they're like this

2:09:07

you need to get better

2:09:08

hello

2:09:09

they don't have to

2:09:11

do whatever the fuck

2:09:13

you want to do

2:09:14

if you just want to do that

2:09:15

do that

2:09:15

and also

2:09:16

some of them

2:09:17

are going to figure it out

2:09:18

anyway

2:09:18

some of them are going to

2:09:19

figure out

2:09:20

I'm not getting better

2:09:21

I'll get better

2:09:22

work harder at it

2:09:23

there's going to be people

2:09:25

that don't figure things out

2:09:26

no matter what you do

2:09:27

in this life

2:09:27

there's going to be

2:09:28

a bunch of people

2:09:29

that have a distorted

2:09:29

perception

2:09:30

of what success is all about

2:09:32

and what you really want

2:09:33

it's always going to be that

2:09:35

this is an interesting question

2:09:37

what is your definition

2:09:39

of success

2:09:40

happiness

2:09:41

happiness and doing something

2:09:43

that you enjoy doing

2:09:44

and something that's challenging

2:09:46

so what is your definition

2:09:47

of happiness

2:09:47

friendship

2:09:49

love

2:09:50

doing something

2:09:51

I enjoy doing

2:09:52

doing it well

2:09:53

doing it better

2:09:54

all the time

2:09:55

getting better at it

2:09:56

you know

2:09:57

and struggle

2:09:58

you're always going to have

2:09:59

some kind of a struggle

2:10:00

and that struggle

2:10:01

hopefully

2:10:02

is you trying to be better

2:10:04

at the thing that you're doing

2:10:05

you

2:10:05

what gives you

2:10:06

this is an interesting question

2:10:07

what gives you

2:10:10

the incentive

2:10:11

to

2:10:12

always

2:10:13

continue

2:10:14

to want to perform

2:10:16

what gives you incentive

2:10:18

to always want to do

2:10:19

Joe Rogan and Friends

2:10:20

when you could just sit back

2:10:21

and fucking just

2:10:22

because it's fun

2:10:23

it's fun

2:10:24

it's first of all

2:10:25

the green room on Tuesday

2:10:26

and Wednesday nights

2:10:27

at the mothership

2:10:28

some of the funniest times

2:10:29

I've ever had in my fucking life

2:10:30

it's so fun

2:10:31

we have so much fun there

2:10:33

there's Ron White there

2:10:34

and Shane Gillis

2:10:35

and Tony

2:10:35

and

2:10:36

it's fun

2:10:37

it's I mean

2:10:38

it's a community

2:10:38

sounds like you're trying

2:10:39

to get me to change my fight

2:10:40

we enjoy our times

2:10:41

would you want to come on

2:10:42

I gotta come to a Tuesday

2:10:44

what are you doing tomorrow?

2:10:45

come on Donnell

2:10:48

what do you got going on tomorrow?

2:10:50

where are you headed back to Ohio?

2:10:51

no I'm going to LA

2:10:53

do you have a show?

2:10:54

I got a son

2:10:55

oh okay

2:10:56

well that's different

2:10:57

that's more important

2:10:58

but I can just give him

2:10:59

some roadblocks money

2:11:00

he'll be alright

2:11:01

he'll be like

2:11:04

yo

2:11:04

I'll give you some

2:11:06

roadblocks money

2:11:07

he'll be cool

2:11:07

let me tell you

2:11:08

I might

2:11:08

cause Cam

2:11:09

I wish I would've even

2:11:10

thought about it before

2:11:11

but I might

2:11:12

cause I haven't had

2:11:14

that experience

2:11:15

oh calm down then

2:11:16

if you can

2:11:17

if your son's cool with it

2:11:18

do it

2:11:18

if not

2:11:19

there's always another time

2:11:20

I can brag

2:11:21

and this is another thing

2:11:22

about me being an older dad

2:11:23

like my son is really

2:11:24

he could be my grandson

2:11:25

I don't have time

2:11:27

to do all those

2:11:28

instill vials

2:11:29

and morals

2:11:30

and shit

2:11:30

I'm like this

2:11:32

will candy shut

2:11:33

this motherfucker up

2:11:34

yo

2:11:35

I'm like yo

2:11:36

let's go to McDonald's

2:11:37

or whatever

2:11:37

but yeah

2:11:37

I'm gonna say

2:11:38

I would definitely

2:11:38

consider that

2:11:39

consider it

2:11:40

yeah

2:11:40

but that's what I like

2:11:42

I mean I'm just

2:11:43

enjoying my life

2:11:43

and I like to do things

2:11:44

that I find

2:11:45

that are interesting

2:11:46

and challenging

2:11:46

and I like to have

2:11:48

conversations

2:11:48

with interesting people

2:11:50

and I like the fact

2:11:51

that people enjoy it still

2:11:52

you know

2:11:53

when I first met you

2:11:54

and I already

2:11:56

I already knew

2:11:57

that you had

2:11:59

the ultimate platform

2:12:00

right

2:12:00

and I never

2:12:01

this is me

2:12:02

and I don't know

2:12:02

if this is what happened

2:12:03

but I was like

2:12:04

I never want to be like

2:12:05

hey Joe Rogan

2:12:06

I'm down there

2:12:07

from so and so

2:12:07

and the only respect

2:12:09

I ever wanted to get

2:12:10

from my peers

2:12:10

and people that were doing it

2:12:11

was like from the stage

2:12:13

you know

2:12:14

I always like

2:12:15

I was like

2:12:15

if we ever make the connection

2:12:16

I wanted to be off of

2:12:18

yo this motherfucker

2:12:19

is funny first

2:12:20

not just like

2:12:21

hey you know

2:12:21

I rock with Dave

2:12:22

and I think that

2:12:23

that was what happened

2:12:24

I used to spend time

2:12:25

and I never

2:12:26

even to this day

2:12:27

I don't

2:12:29

you know

2:12:29

I just look at like

2:12:31

I just want people

2:12:32

you can respect me as a man

2:12:34

and respect my character

2:12:36

or whatever

2:12:36

but at the end of the day

2:12:38

what I love to do the most

2:12:39

is stand up

2:12:40

I want you to be like

2:12:40

yo this motherfucker

2:12:41

puts the work in

2:12:42

and then we can build

2:12:43

everything off of that

2:12:45

that's what respect

2:12:46

I want to

2:12:46

I want the respect

2:12:48

from what I put in

2:12:49

the work I put in

2:12:50

and people can acknowledge that

2:12:51

and that's what builds

2:12:52

my relationship with you

2:12:52

it's built my relationships

2:12:54

with all of these

2:12:55

all these guys

2:12:56

all of these

2:12:58

all of these people

2:12:59

that I fuck with now

2:13:00

it ain't because

2:13:01

anything other than

2:13:03

like yo he's a dope comic

2:13:04

and then you can find out

2:13:05

that I'm a good dude

2:13:06

after that

2:13:06

yeah

2:13:06

it's that

2:13:07

and then after that

2:13:09

it's gotta be like

2:13:10

are you cool

2:13:11

right

2:13:11

is he fun to hang out with

2:13:13

right

2:13:13

yeah

2:13:14

Barry Ketch said that one time

2:13:15

he said that

2:13:16

in one of his podcasts

2:13:17

it's one of the things

2:13:18

that separate like

2:13:19

who goes on the road

2:13:20

or so and so

2:13:21

is if you're a good hang

2:13:22

yeah

2:13:23

oh my god

2:13:24

that's everything

2:13:25

I don't know

2:13:25

how many people

2:13:26

quote Barry Ketch

2:13:27

but I want to share

2:13:28

this story

2:13:28

you might be the only one

2:13:29

probably the only one

2:13:31

but you said something

2:13:33

earlier about

2:13:34

undeniable

2:13:35

right

2:13:35

yeah

2:13:36

I remember when I first

2:13:37

moved from D.C.

2:13:38

and I moved up to New York

2:13:39

I was doing the chitlin circuit

2:13:40

the black circuit

2:13:41

I was popular

2:13:42

in the black community

2:13:42

whatever

2:13:43

I was like

2:13:43

I don't think

2:13:44

this is going to be enough

2:13:44

I want to do the mainstream stuff

2:13:47

I want to do these other things

2:13:48

right

2:13:49

and Barry Ketch

2:13:51

Dave used to host this comedy night

2:13:53

at this place called

2:13:54

El Flamingo

2:13:54

in D.C.

2:13:55

in New York

2:13:56

and Barry Ketch

2:13:58

saw me there one day

2:13:59

he was like

2:13:59

I don't think

2:14:00

I've ever seen

2:14:01

a comedian

2:14:02

that go in front of an audience

2:14:03

that would ready to rip

2:14:05

someone's head off

2:14:06

and you could hear silence

2:14:08

that's the control

2:14:09

I had with the audience

2:14:10

so we built

2:14:11

sort of a respect

2:14:12

for each other

2:14:12

and I remember one time

2:14:14

I was at the comedy cellar

2:14:15

and he was there

2:14:16

and I knew that he was

2:14:18

back then

2:14:18

whatever you want to say

2:14:19

about him

2:14:19

nobody had a roster

2:14:20

bigger than Barry Ketch

2:14:21

back then

2:14:23

in like 97

2:14:24

or whatever

2:14:24

he had

2:14:26

everybody

2:14:27

the list goes on

2:14:29

and on

2:14:30

and I knew he was a fan

2:14:31

of mine

2:14:32

and I said

2:14:33

Barry man

2:14:33

I'm trying to work

2:14:34

these clubs

2:14:36

these mainstream clubs

2:14:37

but I'm having a hard time

2:14:38

getting past these clubs

2:14:41

I was like

2:14:41

could you make a phone call

2:14:42

or whatever for me

2:14:43

and he looked at me

2:14:44

he said

2:14:44

Donnell

2:14:45

he said

2:14:45

this is what you do

2:14:47

I'll probably do the worst

2:14:48

everybody does a better

2:14:49

better Barry Ketch

2:14:50

you gotta do Barry

2:14:51

like this

2:14:52

yes

2:14:53

okay I'll try it again

2:14:54

he was like

2:14:54

this is what you do

2:14:56

and slow it down

2:14:57

he said

2:14:58

Donnell

2:14:59

just

2:15:00

rip

2:15:01

right

2:15:02

he said

2:15:03

yeah be undeniable

2:15:04

that's what he said

2:15:05

he said

2:15:05

just be

2:15:06

he said

2:15:06

I'm not talking

2:15:07

and I tell

2:15:08

this is the advice

2:15:08

I give people

2:15:09

they say

2:15:10

I'm not talking about

2:15:12

have one good set

2:15:13

and you have four bad sets

2:15:15

I'm talking about

2:15:16

the consistency

2:15:17

where every time

2:15:18

somebody sees you

2:15:20

go on that stage

2:15:20

you blowing the roof off

2:15:22

and once you do that

2:15:24

if the managers

2:15:26

are gonna come to you

2:15:27

they're gonna hear about it

2:15:28

that's one of the things

2:15:29

that a lot of people

2:15:29

try to skip

2:15:30

they're like

2:15:31

oh how was your set

2:15:32

it was okay

2:15:33

but I can't talk to you

2:15:35

unless you just straight

2:15:36

just destroying shit

2:15:38

everywhere

2:15:39

then you got

2:15:41

other shit to work on

2:15:42

yeah

2:15:42

and there's also

2:15:42

a lot of people

2:15:43

that are very delusional

2:15:44

about how well they're doing

2:15:45

because they want so much

2:15:47

they want it all

2:15:47

to be about them

2:15:48

so they think

2:15:49

they should have

2:15:49

already had this

2:15:50

they should have

2:15:50

already had that

2:15:51

why don't I have a sitcom

2:15:52

why don't I have a this

2:15:53

why don't I have a that

2:15:54

and I always said

2:15:55

this is another thing

2:15:56

even with these lineups

2:15:57

you do these shows

2:15:58

whatever

2:15:58

always say that

2:16:00

you have time

2:16:00

to have a defining moment

2:16:02

if you're in the room

2:16:04

right

2:16:04

and for some reason

2:16:06

the room is on fire

2:16:07

the club is on fire

2:16:09

everybody is ripping

2:16:10

you probably won't stand out

2:16:12

as much as that night

2:16:14

when everybody was bombing

2:16:15

you've seen rooms

2:16:17

where everybody come back

2:16:19

and say that crowd was weird

2:16:20

but then you got one

2:16:21

motherfucker back there

2:16:21

like this

2:16:22

I don't give a fuck

2:16:22

what y'all doing

2:16:23

I'm going to elevate this

2:16:26

those are the times

2:16:28

when you gotta fucking stand up

2:16:31

yeah

2:16:31

well we used to see that

2:16:32

all the time

2:16:33

at the store

2:16:33

like late night

2:16:34

at the store

2:16:35

in particular

2:16:36

where like

2:16:37

you know

2:16:37

cause the way the store works

2:16:39

the show starts at 8pm

2:16:40

and it goes on till 2am

2:16:41

and there's a lot of people

2:16:43

that get there at 8pm

2:16:44

that are like

2:16:45

you know

2:16:46

tourists that are in town

2:16:48

and they sit there

2:16:50

for the whole fucking show

2:16:51

they came to see

2:16:52

the comedy store

2:16:53

so by the time

2:16:54

12, 30 rolls around

2:16:56

fuck

2:16:57

they've seen everything

2:16:58

and so you get this low period

2:16:59

and then someone will go up

2:17:01

and just tear that fucking place apart

2:17:03

for 50 people

2:17:04

when I used to

2:17:05

I was so naive

2:17:06

when I first started

2:17:07

that

2:17:08

we used to have open mics

2:17:10

right

2:17:10

and the open mic list

2:17:12

would be like 25 people

2:17:14

right

2:17:14

and they

2:17:15

they fucking

2:17:16

the guy that was running

2:17:17

they hated me so much

2:17:19

because I used to talk shit

2:17:20

in the audience

2:17:20

and everything

2:17:21

and they would keep

2:17:22

bumping me

2:17:22

down

2:17:23

right

2:17:23

and my dumbass

2:17:24

never got mad

2:17:25

right

2:17:26

I was like this

2:17:26

yeah

2:17:27

they want me to headline

2:17:28

right

2:17:28

25 comedians

2:17:30

I took that

2:17:32

I was like

2:17:32

I didn't think about

2:17:34

audience fatigue

2:17:35

or anything

2:17:35

oh boy

2:17:36

I just was like

2:17:37

yeah

2:17:37

and it would be

2:17:39

and but

2:17:39

I'm telling you

2:17:40

I think that was

2:17:41

one of the things

2:17:42

that made me strong

2:17:43

because

2:17:43

100%

2:17:44

I was like

2:17:45

I'm gonna do

2:17:46

what the next

2:17:47

person

2:17:48

there's one story

2:17:50

this is

2:17:51

one of

2:17:52

if you ask

2:17:52

Dave Chappelle

2:17:54

one of the

2:17:55

dopest sets

2:17:55

he's ever seen

2:17:56

I just would happen

2:17:57

to be a part of that

2:17:58

it was at the

2:17:59

Hollywood Bowl

2:17:59

years ago

2:18:00

about three years ago

2:18:01

right

2:18:01

you know

2:18:02

Jeff

2:18:02

was that when

2:18:02

he got attacked

2:18:03

no

2:18:03

no that wasn't

2:18:04

that was like

2:18:04

the year before

2:18:05

you know

2:18:06

Jeff Wills

2:18:06

Live Nation

2:18:07

right

2:18:07

sure

2:18:07

so we're doing

2:18:08

shout out to Jeff

2:18:09

shout out to Jeff

2:18:10

we're doing

2:18:11

a show

2:18:12

you know

2:18:13

Hollywood Bowl

2:18:14

is 18,000 people

2:18:15

right

2:18:15

so show starts

2:18:16

at 7 o'clock

2:18:17

right

2:18:18

Jeff comes up to me

2:18:19

he was like

2:18:19

Donnie

2:18:19

I got some good news

2:18:20

and bad news

2:18:20

he said what

2:18:21

he said

2:18:22

we're gonna start

2:18:22

on time

2:18:23

it's only but

2:18:23

700 people out there

2:18:25

right

2:18:25

now you imagine

2:18:26

what 700 people

2:18:27

look like

2:18:28

in front of

2:18:29

an 18,000 place

2:18:30

right

2:18:31

he said

2:18:31

there's only 700

2:18:32

people out there

2:18:33

he said

2:18:33

well

2:18:33

I can let you start

2:18:35

now or we can

2:18:36

wait 10 minutes

2:18:36

I was like

2:18:37

Jeff

2:18:37

it's not like

2:18:39

17,000 people

2:18:40

gonna show up

2:18:41

in 10 minutes

2:18:41

I said

2:18:42

give me the mic now

2:18:43

big ass stage

2:18:45

I jump off the stage

2:18:46

right

2:18:47

Dave and all these

2:18:48

people in the green room

2:18:48

I jump off the stage

2:18:49

I go into the audience

2:18:50

I'm literally going

2:18:51

to each person

2:18:53

in the theater

2:18:55

and I'll get you

2:18:56

a picture

2:18:56

you can answer

2:18:57

I'm going to each person

2:18:58

why didn't they wait

2:18:59

for the people to show up

2:19:00

and sit down

2:19:01

that's what I wanted to say

2:19:03

but they were just like

2:19:04

the show has to continue

2:19:05

I don't allow that

2:19:06

I never allow that

2:19:08

they've tried to do that

2:19:09

before with me

2:19:10

and they say

2:19:10

we're gonna have to pay

2:19:11

more money

2:19:11

if the show goes over

2:19:12

I go

2:19:12

then the show goes over

2:19:13

and we pay more money

2:19:14

get the fuck out of here

2:19:14

but for me

2:19:15

it was a moment

2:19:17

because any other comedian

2:19:19

not any other

2:19:19

most people are like this

2:19:20

oh there was nobody out there

2:19:21

so many excuses

2:19:22

I jumped off stage

2:19:23

I was like no

2:19:24

I can't be up here

2:19:25

looking like I'm about

2:19:27

to be auctioned off

2:19:28

I go in the audience

2:19:29

I'm going to each joint

2:19:30

right

2:19:31

and I'm fucking killing

2:19:33

it's 700 people

2:19:34

in front of

2:19:35

18,000

2:19:36

that's a great way

2:19:36

to start a show

2:19:37

but listen

2:19:38

and I'm like this

2:19:38

and here's the fucked up

2:19:40

thing about this

2:19:41

nobody's gonna know about it

2:19:42

cause your fucking phones

2:19:43

are locked up

2:19:44

right

2:19:44

yo it was a moment

2:19:47

Dave

2:19:47

Dave

2:19:49

everybody from the green room

2:19:50

came out

2:19:51

right

2:19:51

and Dave told me

2:19:53

to this day

2:19:53

he said

2:19:54

if I was doing

2:19:55

a class

2:19:56

on stand up comedy

2:19:57

he said

2:19:58

I would use this

2:19:59

as an example

2:20:00

of like owning up to it

2:20:01

and it was so crazy man

2:20:03

it was like

2:20:04

and

2:20:05

it was just

2:20:06

it was crazy

2:20:08

I remember another time

2:20:09

I was working with

2:20:10

I think I was working with you

2:20:12

it was me

2:20:13

you and Dave

2:20:14

and I think it was a time

2:20:15

we was doing an outdoor theater

2:20:17

and

2:20:17

it was supposed to be

2:20:19

a break

2:20:20

it was supposed to be me

2:20:22

it was supposed to be

2:20:23

I think you

2:20:23

Tony

2:20:24

or whatever

2:20:24

or something

2:20:25

then it was a break

2:20:26

and then it was gonna be

2:20:28

me and Dave

2:20:28

but

2:20:29

it was still daytime

2:20:31

right

2:20:32

where was this?

2:20:34

I can't remember the place

2:20:35

it was still

2:20:35

Jeff

2:20:36

he came up to me

2:20:37

he was like

2:20:38

I was like

2:20:38

I already know

2:20:39

I'm gonna have to go on there

2:20:40

and I literally

2:20:40

had to perform

2:20:42

until it started getting dark

2:20:44

oh

2:20:45

I remember this show

2:20:47

and I was saying to myself

2:20:48

I was like

2:20:48

ain't no way

2:20:49

I was like this

2:20:50

ain't no way

2:20:51

they giving Rogan

2:20:52

and it wasn't as shitty

2:20:53

people just hadn't come yet

2:20:54

right

2:20:55

I was like

2:20:55

I knew

2:20:56

I was gonna even suggest

2:20:57

I was like

2:20:58

nah

2:20:58

we had these two halves

2:20:59

right

2:21:00

and it was

2:21:01

and that was another example

2:21:02

okay you gotta do

2:21:03

what you gotta do

2:21:03

and I had to go up there

2:21:04

it wasn't the spot

2:21:05

that I expected

2:21:06

or whatever

2:21:06

but I was like this

2:21:07

you know

2:21:08

for the sake of the show

2:21:09

and I'm always like

2:21:10

what do we need to do

2:21:10

to support this

2:21:11

and I had to

2:21:12

we had to bring it down

2:21:13

we had to buy some more time

2:21:15

and then by the time

2:21:16

you got on stage

2:21:17

everybody was seated

2:21:19

it was dark

2:21:19

it was dark

2:21:20

that was outside

2:21:21

of San Francisco

2:21:22

I can't remember

2:21:23

that was California

2:21:25

that shit was fun

2:21:26

but I tell people

2:21:27

all the time

2:21:28

that I do slight mental

2:21:29

I was like

2:21:29

man there's certain times

2:21:31

where you gotta do

2:21:32

what the next person

2:21:33

is not gonna do

2:21:35

you can't bitch about shit

2:21:37

and at the end of the day

2:21:38

you gotta be a fuck

2:21:39

I know when I used to do

2:21:40

these shows with Dave

2:21:41

I used to fucking get

2:21:43

the shittiest time

2:21:44

like

2:21:44

we're at 30% capacity

2:21:47

I'm like man

2:21:47

half of these motherfuckers

2:21:48

not even gonna see me

2:21:49

but I looked at it like this

2:21:51

well the people

2:21:51

that's gonna see me

2:21:52

they're gonna remember it

2:21:53

you know

2:21:53

and you just gotta keep on

2:21:55

keep on going

2:21:56

that's a good attitude

2:21:57

yep

2:21:58

yeah

2:21:59

that's healthy

2:21:59

see

2:22:00

I feel like this

2:22:02

very productive

2:22:03

this conversation

2:22:04

is gonna bode well

2:22:06

with my mental health

2:22:06

yeah I think so too

2:22:08

everything except

2:22:09

the lies you told

2:22:10

about Jamie

2:22:10

you know what I'm gonna do

2:22:14

I'm gonna start

2:22:15

taking fucking videos

2:22:16

I wish I would've had it

2:22:18

yeah I wish you did too

2:22:19

and the thing about it

2:22:19

you would see

2:22:20

like oh man

2:22:20

he didn't even have

2:22:21

a leather jacket on

2:22:22

and he wasn't even

2:22:23

talking to me

2:22:24

he was talking to me

2:22:25

like what is it

2:22:26

I walked up

2:22:28

he didn't even know

2:22:29

who I was at first

2:22:29

guess why

2:22:31

why didn't I know

2:22:33

I never know that

2:22:34

I never knew

2:22:35

I was like

2:22:36

who is this fake ass

2:22:37

Jamie ass motherfucker

2:22:38

it's like

2:22:39

it was almost like

2:22:40

remember when

2:22:40

Family Battles

2:22:42

Urkel

2:22:43

and then Stefan

2:22:44

it was two characters

2:22:46

they had

2:22:46

they had

2:22:47

like the geeky

2:22:48

Urkel

2:22:49

and then

2:22:50

his alter ego

2:22:51

whatever

2:22:51

he was just this

2:22:52

cool ass

2:22:53

he was the same person

2:22:54

whatever happened

2:22:54

to that dude

2:22:55

Urkel

2:22:56

yeah

2:22:56

what's that

2:22:58

he was

2:23:00

and his weed

2:23:00

is really good

2:23:01

he's got a weed

2:23:01

Urkel purple

2:23:03

it's the best

2:23:04

he got this joint

2:23:05

he wrote

2:23:05

and it's like

2:23:06

some type of

2:23:06

Italian noodle

2:23:07

the spiral noodle

2:23:08

he used that

2:23:09

as a filter

2:23:10

but also

2:23:11

I spent a lot

2:23:12

of time with him

2:23:13

because he would

2:23:13

come out to the

2:23:14

cornfields

2:23:14

whatever

2:23:15

so I've been

2:23:15

seeing him

2:23:16

he's got a

2:23:16

talk show

2:23:17

didn't he get

2:23:18

jacked

2:23:19

isn't he like

2:23:19

is that him

2:23:20

Julia White

2:23:21

I heard Urkel

2:23:23

got in great shape

2:23:24

yeah

2:23:24

but he's a good guy

2:23:25

man

2:23:25

but he's another

2:23:26

one of those

2:23:27

celebrities

2:23:27

that I know

2:23:28

that want to do

2:23:28

comedy

2:23:29

but don't have

2:23:29

the heart

2:23:30

to do it

2:23:30

always

2:23:31

he said

2:23:32

no no no

2:23:32

don't do that

2:23:33

but he's a

2:23:34

he's a great guy

2:23:35

it's hard to start

2:23:36

out already famous

2:23:37

that's one of the

2:23:37

things that I really

2:23:38

respected about Charlie

2:23:39

Charlie was already

2:23:41

famous when he was

2:23:41

starting comedy

2:23:42

do you know

2:23:43

who started

2:23:43

Charlie

2:23:44

who

2:23:45

me

2:23:45

did you

2:23:46

and this is how

2:23:47

it would happen

2:23:47

when we were

2:23:48

doing the Chappelle

2:23:49

show

2:23:49

and it's safe

2:23:50

to say

2:23:51

nobody was really

2:23:52

making money

2:23:52

you know

2:23:53

in the contract

2:23:53

when you

2:23:54

in your contract

2:23:55

if your show

2:23:55

just blows up

2:23:56

you got to stick

2:23:56

to whatever

2:23:57

you was getting

2:23:57

for the contract

2:23:58

right

2:23:58

so we weren't

2:23:59

making a lot

2:23:59

of money

2:24:00

doing the show

2:24:00

but I was like

2:24:01

this we're too

2:24:02

popular right now

2:24:03

and at that time

2:24:03

it was me and Charlie

2:24:04

we was

2:24:04

it was Dave

2:24:05

me and Charlie

2:24:06

like the biggest

2:24:07

names on the show

2:24:07

so this was

2:24:09

Mike Berkowitz

2:24:10

who's Dave

2:24:10

who's head of

2:24:11

William & Morris

2:24:12

right now

2:24:13

right

2:24:13

he was a young

2:24:14

agent at the time

2:24:15

right

2:24:15

he was coming up

2:24:16

and I was like

2:24:17

I told Jason

2:24:17

my manager

2:24:18

at the time

2:24:18

Jason Steinberg

2:24:19

I said man

2:24:20

we got to do a tour

2:24:21

or something

2:24:21

I was like

2:24:22

yo

2:24:22

everybody's talking

2:24:23

about I'm rich bitch

2:24:23

I was like

2:24:24

let's do I'm rich bitch

2:24:26

tour

2:24:26

right

2:24:26

he was like

2:24:27

it's a good idea

2:24:27

I said me and Charlie

2:24:29

can do it

2:24:29

at the time

2:24:30

that was only

2:24:31

a two man show

2:24:32

Charlie didn't

2:24:33

have no time

2:24:34

or anything

2:24:35

and I was like

2:24:36

you know what

2:24:36

I want to do it

2:24:37

because it was my idea

2:24:38

I said I want to do

2:24:39

me and Charlie

2:24:40

I said we need

2:24:41

another comedian

2:24:41

at the time

2:24:42

Bill Burr

2:24:43

was not making

2:24:44

a lot of money

2:24:44

doing stand up

2:24:45

and I'm not disrespecting

2:24:46

but everybody knew

2:24:47

he was going to blow

2:24:48

but that was early

2:24:49

on in the career

2:24:50

and all Bill had to do

2:24:51

was have a situation

2:24:52

like he had in Philly

2:24:53

everybody knew

2:24:54

he was going to blow

2:24:55

so I said

2:24:56

why don't we do a tour

2:24:57

me, Charlie

2:24:58

and Bill Burr

2:24:59

that shit would be hot

2:25:00

Charlie had never

2:25:01

did stand up

2:25:02

and I used to

2:25:02

he used to always

2:25:03

crack jokes and shit

2:25:04

I was like

2:25:04

yeah you talk a lot

2:25:05

of shit

2:25:05

but once that microphone

2:25:07

you're a bitch

2:25:08

ass motherfucker

2:25:09

so Charlie was a guy

2:25:10

like don't threaten

2:25:11

him with anything

2:25:12

so this is when

2:25:13

they had the

2:25:14

Laugh Factory

2:25:15

in New York

2:25:16

in Times Square

2:25:16

one of my friends

2:25:17

was doing a show

2:25:18

and I was like

2:25:18

Charlie

2:25:19

yo we're going

2:25:20

to do this tour

2:25:20

you got to at least

2:25:21

have 10 minutes

2:25:22

at that time

2:25:24

Charlie was so hot

2:25:25

people would have

2:25:26

just yelled out

2:25:27

Charlie Burr

2:25:27

for 5 minutes

2:25:29

he was the MC

2:25:30

we just needed

2:25:30

his face to be there

2:25:32

and this was

2:25:33

it would be

2:25:34

Charlie

2:25:34

Bill Burr

2:25:37

and myself

2:25:37

and Charlie

2:25:39

had no jokes

2:25:40

and like you said

2:25:41

I was like

2:25:42

maybe

2:25:42

I don't know

2:25:43

if you guys

2:25:43

understand how it is

2:25:44

to be selling out

2:25:45

as an open miker

2:25:46

crazy

2:25:47

and he had to get

2:25:49

his voice

2:25:49

and I know

2:25:49

and I was like

2:25:50

why did he never do this

2:25:51

but part of it

2:25:52

was because

2:25:52

he probably never

2:25:53

wanted to be compared

2:25:54

to his brother

2:25:55

he never wanted

2:25:56

to be able to like

2:25:57

that's his brother

2:25:59

and he had his own

2:26:00

style or whatever

2:26:00

so we did this

2:26:02

fucking tour

2:26:02

for like

2:26:03

a year

2:26:05

and then I saw him

2:26:06

start to grow

2:26:07

sometimes he took

2:26:08

some hits

2:26:08

but he became

2:26:10

Charlie Murphy

2:26:11

he became like

2:26:13

I'm not my brother

2:26:14

I'm a storyteller

2:26:15

he stuck to that shit

2:26:17

and one of the things

2:26:18

that I would say

2:26:19

that I really appreciate

2:26:20

about what

2:26:22

the Chappelle show

2:26:23

gave to Charlie Murphy

2:26:24

when Charlie Murphy

2:26:25

passed away Joe

2:26:26

nobody said

2:26:27

Eddie Murphy's

2:26:29

brother died

2:26:29

they said

2:26:30

Charlie Murphy

2:26:31

passed away

2:26:32

so that show

2:26:33

didn't do

2:26:33

and when I tell you

2:26:34

one of the most

2:26:35

stand up

2:26:36

original guys

2:26:38

all of those stories

2:26:39

like was it true

2:26:40

it was

2:26:41

he told

2:26:41

that was just

2:26:42

part of the story

2:26:43

me

2:26:44

Dave

2:26:45

me

2:26:45

Charlie and Bill

2:26:46

built a relationship

2:26:48

we did something

2:26:48

that was spectacular

2:26:49

then

2:26:50

but

2:26:51

Bill Burr

2:26:53

used to fuck with us

2:26:55

and I'm gonna tell you

2:26:56

one of the things

2:26:56

he would do

2:26:57

we would be on the road

2:26:58

and all we used to do

2:26:59

was argue and fight

2:27:00

and just fuck with each other

2:27:01

and Bill Burr

2:27:02

he did some fucking

2:27:03

I don't wanna call this

2:27:04

racist or whatever

2:27:05

but whatever

2:27:06

it was very Bostonian

2:27:08

okay

2:27:09

I won't say

2:27:10

but what he did

2:27:11

I didn't know

2:27:11

two years later

2:27:12

Bill Burr

2:27:13

when we meet up

2:27:14

he would buy

2:27:15

a fucking

2:27:16

like 12 piece

2:27:17

of Popeye's chicken

2:27:19

right

2:27:19

and he knew

2:27:20

me and Charlie

2:27:21

would devour

2:27:22

that chicken

2:27:22

and we would be

2:27:23

in a sleep coma

2:27:24

right

2:27:25

the next 15 minutes

2:27:26

and it was almost

2:27:27

like he gave us

2:27:28

sleeping pills

2:27:28

and shit

2:27:28

he would get us

2:27:29

a chicken

2:27:30

we'd be knocked out

2:27:30

and then he'd just

2:27:31

go and just

2:27:32

laugh at us

2:27:32

and shit

2:27:32

but that time

2:27:34

that was such

2:27:35

a great time

2:27:36

because you saw

2:27:37

people's careers

2:27:38

being born

2:27:39

like Bill

2:27:40

was already

2:27:41

on the trajectory

2:27:41

to be great

2:27:43

you know what I'm saying

2:27:44

but at that time

2:27:44

and this is when I say

2:27:45

the stories

2:27:46

that you remember

2:27:47

I'm pretty sure

2:27:48

Bill still remembers

2:27:49

like this was

2:27:50

the first time

2:27:51

that he was making

2:27:53

like regular

2:27:54

good money

2:27:55

every week

2:27:56

you know how it is

2:27:56

for being a fucking

2:27:57

headliner

2:27:58

that's doing

2:27:59

$800

2:27:59

a weekend

2:28:01

or they give you

2:28:02

a deal

2:28:03

$2,000

2:28:03

and then

2:28:05

you get a $500

2:28:06

bonus

2:28:06

when you sell

2:28:07

or give away

2:28:08

$300 tickets

2:28:08

and you're not

2:28:09

working every weekend

2:28:10

and you're not

2:28:10

working every weekend

2:28:11

and then you got

2:28:12

club bonus

2:28:12

like the bonus

2:28:13

is supposed to be

2:28:14

at $300

2:28:14

and they'd be like

2:28:15

couldn't give me

2:28:17

that bonus

2:28:17

you was at $298

2:28:18

you know

2:28:19

I'd be like

2:28:19

motherfucker

2:28:20

I could have

2:28:21

bought those

2:28:21

and they lied too

2:28:21

they lied to it

2:28:22

they lied about

2:28:23

how many tickets

2:28:24

you sold

2:28:24

they lied to

2:28:25

and then they wonder

2:28:26

why when guys

2:28:27

become big

2:28:28

and everything

2:28:28

they don't want

2:28:28

to come back

2:28:29

because I remember that

2:28:30

oh I remember that

2:28:31

there's a couple

2:28:31

club owners

2:28:32

that they can go

2:28:33

eat shit

2:28:33

and I tell people

2:28:34

all the time

2:28:35

when everybody

2:28:35

talk about this

2:28:36

I was like

2:28:36

yo try this

2:28:38

try doing a

2:28:39

fucking tour

2:28:40

for a year

2:28:41

and a half

2:28:41

and every night

2:28:43

you had to come

2:28:44

behind Bill Burr

2:28:45

I had no days off

2:28:47

and I knew

2:28:49

when I had a day off

2:28:50

I wasn't hitting

2:28:52

on all cylinders

2:28:52

because that's when

2:28:54

they used to have

2:28:54

comment cards

2:28:55

right

2:28:55

the comment cards

2:28:58

like

2:28:58

I don't know

2:28:59

why the white boy

2:29:00

didn't go last

2:29:00

but that always

2:29:03

that always

2:29:05

kept me

2:29:06

in shape

2:29:07

you know what I'm saying

2:29:07

it's like this

2:29:08

you don't got no time

2:29:09

to play around

2:29:09

because Bill

2:29:10

because Bill

2:29:11

was one of those

2:29:12

comics

2:29:12

Bill was like

2:29:14

Bill would come

2:29:15

Bill did the mainstream

2:29:16

shit

2:29:17

and he was one

2:29:18

of the only white dudes

2:29:18

who would do

2:29:19

the fucking

2:29:20

most grimiest spots

2:29:21

ever

2:29:22

and I'm pretty sure

2:29:23

he's always gonna be

2:29:24

a great comic

2:29:25

but I think that

2:29:26

that helped

2:29:26

build his character

2:29:28

like

2:29:28

I think that was

2:29:29

probably

2:29:30

what made him

2:29:31

be in a position

2:29:31

where he go to Philly

2:29:32

like

2:29:32

yo fuck y'all

2:29:34

I just did

2:29:34

Donnell's

2:29:35

fucking hood club

2:29:36

in Brooklyn

2:29:36

if I can handle that

2:29:38

I can handle that

2:29:38

well that rant

2:29:39

in Philly was

2:29:40

because he was doing

2:29:40

the Opie and Anthony

2:29:41

tour

2:29:41

so when Opie and Anthony

2:29:43

their crowd

2:29:44

were brutal

2:29:45

their crowds

2:29:46

were fucking brutal

2:29:47

they was Kill Tonys

2:29:48

before Kill Tonys

2:29:49

way worse

2:29:49

way worse

2:29:50

that they had

2:29:52

sort of

2:29:53

fed into that crowd

2:29:54

they fostered that crowd

2:29:56

they called them

2:29:57

the pests

2:29:58

but then

2:29:59

even going back

2:30:00

to what I was saying

2:30:00

in this career

2:30:02

sometimes you have

2:30:03

situations

2:30:04

to have a defining moment

2:30:05

and that was

2:30:06

one of those things

2:30:07

I'm pretty sure

2:30:07

everybody went on

2:30:08

before Bill

2:30:09

was throwing a towel

2:30:09

and he was like

2:30:10

fuck that

2:30:11

what happened was

2:30:13

Dom Herrera went on

2:30:14

and you know

2:30:15

Dom Herrera's a legend

2:30:16

how's he doing man

2:30:17

he's hurting

2:30:18

yeah he's got

2:30:19

he's hurting

2:30:20

he's got

2:30:21

whatever that

2:30:22

neurological condition is

2:30:23

it's not good

2:30:24

I mean I don't want to

2:30:25

speak out of turn

2:30:26

about his

2:30:26

his health

2:30:28

but it's not good

2:30:29

but

2:30:30

Dom

2:30:32

they booed Dom

2:30:33

they were just rough

2:30:35

they wanted you to fail

2:30:36

and Bill went up

2:30:37

and go fuck you

2:30:39

you know

2:30:39

and he just went

2:30:40

into this crazy rant

2:30:41

you know who else

2:30:42

had a moment like that

2:30:43

who

2:30:43

Bernie Mac

2:30:44

did he

2:30:45

oh on Def Jam

2:30:46

yeah

2:30:46

I ain't afraid of you

2:30:47

motherfuckers

2:30:47

you know how that was

2:30:48

you know how that was born

2:30:49

why

2:30:50

first off

2:30:52

Martin Lawrence was the host

2:30:53

and that night

2:30:54

everybody was taking licks

2:30:56

right

2:30:57

and there was another

2:30:58

it was a comment from DC

2:30:59

named Butch Burns

2:31:00

right

2:31:00

he was very popular

2:31:01

in DC

2:31:02

Butch Burns went on stage

2:31:04

and bombed so bad

2:31:05

motherfuckers throwing shit

2:31:06

there was nothing

2:31:08

that Martin could do

2:31:10

you know how sometimes

2:31:11

you try

2:31:11

and you like just

2:31:12

whoop

2:31:12

you're on your own

2:31:13

right

2:31:14

it's like whoop-de-doo

2:31:15

right

2:31:16

so Butch Burns had bombed

2:31:18

the room was going crazy

2:31:19

Martin couldn't do anything

2:31:21

next on deck was

2:31:22

fucking Bernie Mac

2:31:23

Bernie Mac saw

2:31:25

Butch Burns on the way out

2:31:26

and he told him

2:31:27

he was like

2:31:27

listen man

2:31:28

hold your head up

2:31:29

man

2:31:29

he said

2:31:29

the sun might not shine

2:31:31

on your day

2:31:31

but you'll have another

2:31:33

opportunity to shine

2:31:34

and the reason

2:31:35

he didn't plan on

2:31:37

I ain't scared of you

2:31:37

motherfuckers

2:31:38

and then

2:31:39

Bernie had a situation

2:31:41

to go through

2:31:41

because Bernie was on

2:31:42

Def Jam before

2:31:43

he dressed in a suit

2:31:44

and everything

2:31:45

he was looking like

2:31:46

a Chicago player

2:31:47

but he didn't think

2:31:48

that he connected

2:31:49

with a young audience

2:31:50

like that

2:31:50

so you even watch

2:31:51

the way he was dressed

2:31:52

from the previous show

2:31:53

to the next one

2:31:53

the next one

2:31:54

he had more of a hip outfit

2:31:56

had graffiti on the jeans

2:31:57

he was dressed up

2:31:59

for that part of it

2:32:00

no idea

2:32:01

I ain't scared of you

2:32:01

motherfuckers

2:32:02

he did have the energy

2:32:04

that he was going to do

2:32:05

the connection he was going to have

2:32:06

with the DJ

2:32:07

right

2:32:07

but what made it so explosive

2:32:09

is that he said

2:32:10

fuck y'all

2:32:11

he said

2:32:12

he did his joke

2:32:13

and didn't

2:32:14

that's why

2:32:15

you hear like

2:32:15

why was he saying

2:32:16

I ain't scared of you

2:32:17

motherfuckers

2:32:17

it was because

2:32:18

of the other shit

2:32:19

he said

2:32:20

I ain't scared of you motherfuckers

2:32:21

kick it

2:32:22

boom boom boom

2:32:23

he said

2:32:24

what'd he say

2:32:25

and it was such

2:32:26

the most simple

2:32:27

stock jokes

2:32:29

Bernie was so powerful

2:32:30

so powerful

2:32:31

so powerful

2:32:32

the rhythm that he had

2:32:34

and the fact that

2:32:35

you knew

2:32:36

that something was special

2:32:37

would happen

2:32:37

that's why

2:32:38

that fucking audience

2:32:39

looked

2:32:40

was so fucking charged up

2:32:42

because he said

2:32:43

fuck y'all

2:32:44

I saw Bernie live once

2:32:45

at the Comedy Connection

2:32:46

and Faneuil Hall

2:32:47

in Boston

2:32:47

I remember that club

2:32:50

he was on fire

2:32:51

he was so powerful

2:32:53

first time I saw him

2:32:54

at Comedy Connection

2:32:56

at Greenbelt

2:32:56

I used to do this club

2:32:57

and it was a couple

2:32:58

of people that had come through

2:32:59

and I was like

2:32:59

these motherfuckers

2:33:00

are the next level

2:33:01

it was him

2:33:02

another person

2:33:02

that was like that

2:33:03

was George Wallace

2:33:04

oh yeah

2:33:05

you know another person

2:33:06

that was like that

2:33:06

Rich Voss

2:33:07

oh yeah

2:33:08

yo George Wallace

2:33:09

first off

2:33:10

I knew George Wallace

2:33:11

was on the next level

2:33:12

I've never seen anybody

2:33:13

go to the comedy club

2:33:14

and the deal he had

2:33:15

was 100% of the door

2:33:16

everything

2:33:17

you just get

2:33:19

your drinks

2:33:19

your chicken wings

2:33:20

100% door

2:33:21

they had to give it to him

2:33:22

wow

2:33:22

and George Wallace

2:33:24

he was old

2:33:25

George Wallace

2:33:26

always been an older dude

2:33:27

right

2:33:27

somebody said

2:33:29

you know his thing

2:33:29

is your mama jokes

2:33:30

right

2:33:30

somebody had did

2:33:32

a mama joke

2:33:32

and motherfucking

2:33:33

George Wallace

2:33:34

ripped off about

2:33:35

30 mama jokes

2:33:36

I felt so bad for him

2:33:37

and then

2:33:39

Rich Voss

2:33:39

fucking

2:33:40

Rich Voss

2:33:41

fucked me up

2:33:42

because

2:33:42

I'd never seen

2:33:44

a white comedian

2:33:45

perform at his club

2:33:45

it was a black club

2:33:46

Rich Voss came in

2:33:48

and he had a ponytail

2:33:48

similar to Jamie's

2:33:49

right

2:33:50

he had jerry curls

2:33:51

no

2:33:52

Rich Voss had a ponytail

2:33:53

the same one

2:33:54

that Jamie was wearing

2:33:55

when I

2:33:55

right

2:33:56

it was Rich Voss's

2:33:58

right

2:33:58

and I saw

2:34:00

Rich Voss

2:34:01

go up there

2:34:01

and destroy this crowd

2:34:02

I was like

2:34:03

this white dude

2:34:04

don't know what's going

2:34:04

and he fucking

2:34:05

killed that shit

2:34:07

I

2:34:07

I had

2:34:08

you know

2:34:09

when we talk about

2:34:10

joke stealing

2:34:10

right

2:34:11

I've never

2:34:12

I stole one joke

2:34:13

in my life

2:34:15

and I apologized

2:34:15

to Rich Voss

2:34:16

I was doing a show

2:34:17

and none of my jokes

2:34:19

worked

2:34:20

I tried

2:34:21

yo

2:34:22

I tried everything

2:34:23

I tried everything

2:34:24

and I said to myself

2:34:26

what joke

2:34:27

have you heard

2:34:28

I didn't mean to steal

2:34:29

right

2:34:30

I borrowed it

2:34:31

okay

2:34:31

I said

2:34:32

what one joke

2:34:33

you know

2:34:34

that fuck

2:34:35

will kill this audience

2:34:36

and Rich Voss

2:34:37

used to have this joke

2:34:38

he said

2:34:39

you know what they say

2:34:40

once you go black

2:34:41

you never go back

2:34:42

he said

2:34:42

yeah

2:34:42

cause your father

2:34:43

won't let you back

2:34:44

in the house

2:34:44

right

2:34:44

I stole that joke

2:34:47

I got him laughing

2:34:48

I got him back on track

2:34:49

and then I had to call

2:34:50

Voss

2:34:51

I said

2:34:51

man I'm so sorry

2:34:52

I said

2:34:55

it's gonna get back to you

2:34:56

but I stole the joke

2:34:57

he was like

2:34:57

no problem with it

2:34:59

well at least you admitted it

2:35:00

yeah I did

2:35:01

alright

2:35:02

I think we accomplished a lot

2:35:04

this was therapy for me

2:35:05

I think it was good for you

2:35:06

stay out of the comments

2:35:07

I'm gonna stay out of the comments

2:35:09

remember that podcast

2:35:10

we did with RZA

2:35:11

no don't do that

2:35:13

they still talk shit to me

2:35:15

I grabbed you

2:35:16

at the end of the podcast

2:35:17

and said

2:35:18

that was great

2:35:18

don't read the comments

2:35:19

exactly

2:35:20

that was a long time ago

2:35:22

I've been giving you that advice

2:35:23

for a long time

2:35:24

you did tell me

2:35:25

don't

2:35:25

but the part of that story

2:35:27

people don't know

2:35:27

is that

2:35:28

I did my podcast early

2:35:30

I hadn't seen my son

2:35:31

in like two and a half weeks

2:35:32

I was in a row

2:35:33

and I came straight there

2:35:35

straight to the podcast

2:35:36

to do it

2:35:37

right

2:35:37

and then

2:35:38

I was like

2:35:41

you was like

2:35:41

yo you wanna hang out

2:35:42

this is what people don't know

2:35:43

this is the side

2:35:44

you don't tell them

2:35:45

you invited me

2:35:46

you invited me

2:35:47

I did invite you

2:35:48

you did invite you

2:35:49

I thought it'd be fun

2:35:50

you said that RZA's gonna come

2:35:51

well we were having a good time

2:35:53

we did a podcast together

2:35:54

we were hanging out

2:35:55

and I said

2:35:55

are you going anywhere

2:35:56

you wanna

2:35:57

I'm doing a podcast

2:35:58

with RZA next

2:35:58

you wanna hop on

2:35:59

I thought it would be fun

2:36:01

I thought it would be fun

2:36:02

it was

2:36:02

it was fun

2:36:03

I would like to tell

2:36:04

my side of the story

2:36:05

we already did

2:36:06

we've done this

2:36:08

many times

2:36:09

I think like every other podcast

2:36:10

we do

2:36:11

you tell your side of the story

2:36:12

I'm never gonna say this again

2:36:13

Joe

2:36:14

I was gonna leave

2:36:15

and I was like

2:36:16

I was like

2:36:17

man fuck Wu-Tang

2:36:18

man I'm gonna see my son

2:36:19

right

2:36:20

and I'm leaving out

2:36:21

and as soon as I get ready

2:36:22

to get in my car

2:36:23

the RZA comes out

2:36:25

and this motherfucker said

2:36:27

what's up

2:36:27

Ashley Larry

2:36:28

and I said

2:36:29

fuck my son

2:36:30

I'm fucking with the Wu-Tang

2:36:31

right

2:36:31

and I didn't

2:36:33

but it was a good time

2:36:34

it was fun

2:36:35

but what people don't understand

2:36:36

is before we did that

2:36:38

RZA said

2:36:39

yo yo

2:36:39

bong bong bong

2:36:40

I got this idea

2:36:41

right

2:36:41

I said

2:36:42

well he said

2:36:42

I'm gonna do these jokes

2:36:43

they're gonna be

2:36:43

he was trying to pitch jokes

2:36:45

like he was on the jokes

2:36:46

and I was like

2:36:46

please don't do that

2:36:47

right

2:36:48

I was like

2:36:49

please don't do that

2:36:51

and we sat down

2:36:52

and of course

2:36:53

it went

2:36:53

I had a good time

2:36:54

but people's like

2:36:55

you just ruined it

2:36:56

you ruined it

2:36:57

for the RZA

2:36:58

you just ruined it

2:36:59

but shout out to the RZA

2:37:00

it was fun

2:37:00

it was a good time

2:37:01

it was fun

2:37:01

and thanks for

2:37:02

whenever I call you

2:37:03

let me

2:37:03

I can't even tell people

2:37:07

anything other than

2:37:07

yes I'm on tour

2:37:08

go to donairrollins.com

2:37:10

get tour dates

2:37:10

alright

2:37:11

and here's my

2:37:12

here's my shit

2:37:13

a joke could be too soon

2:37:15

but it never could be too soon

2:37:17

for a funny observation

2:37:18

and that's what you're gonna get

2:37:20

when you come to my show

2:37:21

alright

2:37:21

thank you sir

2:37:22

appreciate you brother

2:37:23

I'm taking this gun with me

2:37:24

Jamie stay sexy

2:37:25

stay sexy

2:37:26

bye everybody