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Who, me?
Sorry, I didn't know you were talking to one of those.
There's only three of us in here.
I don't know, dude.
The glasses, man, what's the new sophisticated look?
Yeah, I got them.
What the fuck's going on?
I see, I see you got them.
Yeah, they're great, man.
My buddy Joseph gave them to me.
I got them from him.
Yeah?
Yeah, and they're popping.
And they help, too.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Are you losing your vision?
I don't think so, but I think these just make it even better.
Okay, let me see.
Let me try them.
Let me see how bad your eyes are.
Try them on, big dog.
Oh, barely.
I could get them weighted, too, so you could do a neck workout where you have
them on.
Why would you do that?
This is, uh...
God, I can't tell the difference.
Are you sure these are real?
I think they are.
I don't think these are real glasses, dog.
Let me see.
I don't think they...
Jamie, put these on.
First of all, they're smeared as fuck.
Yeah, somehow they keep getting grease on them, dude.
All I've done...
You got greasy fucking fingers.
What?
You keep touching them.
You're not supposed to...
Look at you.
You're rubbing your head.
You're rubbing your greasy face.
I don't even go in the kitchen.
You don't need grease.
You don't need to go in the kitchen for grease.
Barely tell the difference, right?
It's doing something, but...
Barely.
Barely.
This is psychological.
It's like, it's, uh...
If you're 20...
If you're not 20-20, you're 20-25.
These are psychological, dog.
You don't think they're good?
No, no, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, they're fine, but they're...
Yes, sir.
You can see it.
I look smarter, right?
Like, I've been reading too much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're, uh...
I think it's a psychological thing.
Yeah, it could be.
I gotta believe that they make you see better.
My vision's okay.
It's not as good as it was when I was young.
I gotta read the packaging again.
But it's a lot better than it used to be.
I started using a red light, a red light bed.
Makes a giant difference, man.
Really?
Huge difference.
Yeah, I don't need reading glasses anymore.
I needed reading glasses for a while.
Like, look at my phone.
Like, it was fine text.
Yeah.
I don't read it.
I don't need it at all anymore.
And that's because of the red light.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Huh.
Yeah, red light therapy and certain vitamins, like lutein.
There's a few different...
There's a company called Pure Encapsulations.
They make a formulation called Macular Support.
And I take that stuff.
But those two things, for sure, have had a big impact.
I think it's the red light, though, more than anything.
That was the big...
That was the big factor.
I've been doing sauna, and I've been getting in there.
It feels good.
I feel like a little dumpling when I get out of there.
Oh, yeah.
It's good.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah, it feels good.
Yeah.
Get that body all heated up, and everything just kind of flows out of you.
I saw a protocol of what you're supposed to do before you get in there, and I've
never
done any of these things.
But it's like, how much water are you supposed to drink before you go in?
Fuck all that, dude.
About 45 minutes, you're supposed to go, you're supposed to drink a liter of
water with electrolytes
and some magnesium.
I don't know.
Some guy made this.
That's the problem.
Like, everybody's an online guru.
Yeah.
Well, everybody, everything they watch, it's like they think you're trying to
get in the
Olympics.
It's like, bitch, I'm just trying to fucking get to work.
You know what I'm saying, bitch?
I'm just trying to fucking...
I just want to feel a little bit better.
Yeah, I'm just trying to make it out of my garage.
Give me an edge.
Yeah.
Give me an edge on this cold, hard world.
Yeah, that's the only thing, man.
That's all I'm looking for.
But good to see you, dude.
Good to see you always, my friend.
I'm glad you're still alive.
You too.
I'm glad you're still alive, too.
Amen.
We've both been interviewing dangerous people.
Have we, you think?
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
You really have.
Who have I interviewed that you haven't?
It's more dangerous.
Ooh, I don't know.
That's a good question.
I mean, I did...
I don't...
Yeah, I don't think I've had people that's that dangerous.
Maybe Thomas Massey.
Oh, did you have him on?
Yeah.
Yeah, they all hate him right now.
It's...
This is a sad thing about both political parties,
not just the right, but the left, too,
is they decide that they're going to gang up on someone
for not toeing the line.
Yeah.
You know, like, whatever happened to having different opinions,
whatever happened to having different perspectives
and being able to argue your perspective.
Yeah.
But then they have these goofy-ass bills,
which, by the way, they just fucking...
They slipped something into this last bill
that Mitch McConnell guy did, I believe.
Make sure that he did it.
The hemp thing.
They slipped this thing in
where you can no longer buy CBD
with, like...
It has to be, like, the lowest trace amount of THC in it,
which is for, like...
Like, my wife's mom, you know, she's an older lady,
and she takes CBD for pain, for joints and stuff like that.
Does she smoke it, or she does the ointment?
No, she takes, like, oil, like CBD oil.
Yeah, he snuck it in there.
Oh, he's taking a hit of something.
He's an old fucking dead turtle.
He's a leading proponent of closing a 2018 Farm Bill loophole,
allowing intoxicating THC to be sold in low doses.
See...
But he's got a couple of fucking milligrams in his neck.
Look at that motherfucker.
He's got something going on.
They definitely got him medicated.
There ain't no way that guy's sleeping without help.
Everybody hates him.
It looks like he hit a joint and it won't leave him alone.
Go back up and show up.
Like, took an edible.
He, like, Joey Diaz dosed him.
Yeah, yeah.
It looks like he's on the church.
He's on the church of what's happening now.
Stay black, cocksucker.
Joey Diaz and Lee are just staring at him.
Yeah.
They got to change that.
That's really bad.
Why is it bad?
Because of what the...
Because for people that are getting benefits from CBD,
the THC along with the CBD...
And by the way, we're talking super, super low amounts.
But there's something about how CBD and THC work
in a synergistic way for people that are in a lot of pain.
I know a lot of people, like I said, my wife's mom,
she says the stuff with the THC in it works better.
And it's not getting her high.
Like, this is the misunderstanding.
This stuff's not going to get you high.
But what it will do is it helps with anxiety for a lot of people.
It definitely reduces inflammation.
And for people that have, like, joint pain...
Like my friend Dave Foley.
Dave Foley from News Radio.
Kids in the hall, Dave Foley.
Awesome guy.
Dave had, like, pretty severe arthritis in his hands.
Like, where, you know, he was really having a hard time opening his hands.
Started taking CBD oil.
Can you open a jar or anything like that you think was hard?
It was a hard pain, man.
It was bad.
But now it's gone.
And it's gone because of CBD.
It's really effective, man.
It's really effective.
And so what they're saying that they don't want you to...
Why are they doing that?
Because they want to control it?
It's the alcohol lobby.
It's the same people that are trying to keep marijuana illegal in Texas.
It's the alcohol lobby.
This is the fact.
The fact is, when people start smoking weed, they drink less.
And, you know, I mean, it could be because they just decided to get high and
not get drunk.
Or it could be that they smoke pot and they get a little paranoid and they go,
Oh, my God, why am I poisoning myself five days a week?
Well, a lot of people now feel like they're just doing, like, cocaine and saunas,
it seems like.
I don't think they're doing those together.
Maybe in your neighborhood.
Not in our area.
Maybe it's your town.
I want my neighbors to know that.
Maybe your neighbors are coming over in their underwear with a fucking baggie.
Let's go, Theo.
Let's go.
Let's get that bitch up to 185.
Let's go.
There's a place up ahead.
Throw that water on them rocks.
I'm ready.
I want my nasal cavity to be open wide.
Get that eucalyptus in the air.
Bro, dude.
The best is, yeah, if you have a good brother or somebody and they say eucalyptus.
Yeah, eucalyptus.
Get the eucalyptus in the air.
But, yeah, I don't know if a lot of people are even drinking that much anymore,
do you think?
A lot less people are drinking, including me.
But I did have a drink the other night before I went on stage and I felt great.
Woo, I haven't done that in a while.
I had a little whiskey before I went on stage.
But I gave up on drinking entirely for many months.
I forget how many months, but it was quite a while where I didn't have a sip of
alcohol and I felt way better.
You did?
Yeah, but I don't think there's anything wrong with moderation.
You know, like when I was in New York, I went to this place, Teresi.
Oh, my God.
For MSG, you mean?
For the pipes just now?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
There's this Italian restaurant in New York City called Teresi.
Oh, it's so good.
Remember that place you took me to, Joseph?
Oh, yeah, Gaetano's in Vegas.
Oh, so good.
That guy, the little...
Oh, bro, all handmade pasta at Gaetano's, man.
What was that little thing?
It's like a little square.
It was a ravioli song.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God, right?
Like a shingle fell off the roof of heaven and landed in my mouth.
Yeah, with that sauce, just perfect sauce.
And Gaetano's is like a lot of...
It's like the best ones get their flour from Italy because it doesn't fuck with
your stomach.
Our flour's all messed up, man.
Our wheat's messed up.
Oh, yeah, a lot of our wheat's from Memphis, dude.
A lot of our wheat has like, yeah.
All kinds of pesticides on it.
It's trap wheat.
A lot of it has fucking...
Trap wheat.
Yeah, a lot of it has guns.
It has like fucking bullet holes in our wheat.
You could test positive for Coke just from that...
Just from eating wheat.
Just from having bread.
Do you know how many dollar bills test positive for Coke?
It's some crazy number.
Yeah, I can imagine that that's probably true.
This guy tests positive, huh?
That's Art Bell.
Who's that, your stepdad?
No, that's Art Bell.
You don't know who Art Bell is?
Coast to coast with Art Bell.
Oh, yeah.
From the kingdom of Nye.
Yeah.
Pahrump, Nevada.
That's him?
Yeah, that's Art.
He's the godfather of fun conspiracies.
Yes, he's...
Like UFOs.
At the radio station, you could listen at night.
Dude, he was my nighttime jam coming home from the comedy store.
I could see that.
Always.
Because you're coming home from the comedy store, it's like, you know, one o'clock
in
the morning, and the Art Coast to Coast with Art Bell is on, and the guy calls
up, Art, I'm
a time traveler.
He had a time traveler hotline.
Of course he did, dude.
He could call in.
He was you.
He was you.
You freak.
You know how many time travelers you've had in here?
Probably a couple.
Oh, yeah.
At least one.
A couple, they probably can't find their way home, too, I bet.
At least one.
I've had at least one time traveler.
No, dude, that's you.
I could totally picture it now.
You, like, you get a car with some speakers in it, and you're the only one
driving around
listening to Art Bell.
Oh, there's a lot of people listening.
He was really popular.
Oh, no, I know how popular he was, but I mean at a level where you would bump
it with
space.
Oh, yeah.
Like, you loved it that much.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I loved it.
I loved it.
You know, it's like the perfect stuff to occupy your mind coming home from the
comedy
store.
Oh, yeah.
Because occasionally it was, like, real shit.
Talking about some really fascinating things, you know, like asteroid impacts,
and he had
Terrence McKenna on a few times.
He had a lot of interesting people, but then every now and then he would mix it
up with
a dude who says he's a werewolf.
And Art would never go, man, you ain't a werewolf.
He would go, interesting.
Tell me more.
He let dudes talk.
He let dudes say the most ridiculous shit.
It was fucking great.
I got to do a show once.
Really?
Yeah.
You called in?
I did it when he was on the radio, or on the internet, rather.
He wasn't on the radio anymore.
He had an internet radio show for a while.
And did he know who you were at that point, or no?
Yeah.
Yeah, luckily.
But to me, it was like, fuck, yeah.
It was like a few things in my life where when I did them, I was like, yes!
You know, that was a big one.
I hung up the phone.
I had a giant fucking smile on my face.
Yeah.
I just did the Art Bell show, son.
Dude, that's so cool that that's him.
I can't tell if I can see him better with or without these on.
I think it's psychological.
I'm telling you, those glasses don't do a damn thing.
They don't even change the shape of your face.
You know how sometimes people put them on, and I always go, how blind is this
motherfucker?
And I'll look to the side, and I can see their face caves in like a half a foot
because
they got giant magnifying glasses over their eyeballs.
But with you, it looks exactly the same.
The line of your face doesn't change at all when you turn side to side.
I think they're fucking with you.
I think they think you're crazy, and they're like, his eyes are perfect.
Just give him some clear lenses.
And you're like, yeah, I think this works.
I think I see better than these.
I think, y'all got a vape pen?
Yeah.
Let me hit that vape, homie.
There is something about when people wear them, they look smarter.
Oh, for sure, dude.
My friend was wearing them the other day, this girl.
And I was like, dang, this girl is...
She must be a genius.
Yeah.
Hot secretary.
Oh.
Or hot professor.
Hot lady professor.
Oh.
Let me do some homework up in them undies.
That's what I was thinking.
Yeah.
Let me get up in that study hall, baby girl.
Yeah.
Let me get them extra credit points.
Let's go.
Yeah, dude.
But if you're a dumb dude with glasses, that's a bad look.
Because not only are you blind, but you're fucking stupid, too.
It was like Stephen Avery's cousin, that little fellow that stood by the...
Like, was grilling hot dogs on that burn barrel in the...
Remember when they...
Who's Stephen Avery?
Who's Stephen Avery left at, Jamie?
The murders from the Netflix thing from the...
I think it was a pandemic, wasn't it?
Making a murder, was that him?
Yeah.
I can't remember.
What was his case?
He was a murderer.
Well, they said he was.
Was he?
Yes, he was a murderer.
He's in jail for it.
He's in jail for it.
And he had his little cousin.
Brendan Dassey.
Oh, this is the guy that's a little mentally challenged.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've read some stuff about that.
And his little cousin.
That's him.
That's shades on.
Brendan Dassey.
B. Dassey.
Who's actually...
We did a little bit of pen palling with him.
Tried to anyway.
What do they think about this?
Do they think that...
I think he did it.
I think there was like...
I believe people said that the Netflix thing got edited strange and left stuff
out.
That's the thing.
You can't tell what's real anymore.
Who knows?
Well, selective editing is crazy.
It's crazy that they still do that.
Well, everything's crazy right now.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, I feel like this is the year...
Do you feel like this is the year that people realize that neither side of the
government
is working for us?
Is that a weird thing to say?
Well, it's true.
It's pretty obvious that it's true.
Okay.
They're all working for the people that got them in.
So no matter what they...
Even if they're good people that want to do well for you, their obligations
when they
get in there are the people that help them get in there.
They're the campaign contributors.
They're the military industrial complex.
The military contractors.
The big money.
Big money banks.
Big money.
That's what all this government shutdown shit was all about, man.
It's all about health care, right?
So it's all about how much money is getting funneled through these corporations.
If you really think that what they're trying to do is make sure that people get
health care,
you're fucking naive.
Yeah, you're ridiculous.
What they're doing is they are protecting some kind of slush fund.
If somebody digs into this and finds out where that money's going and finds out
how this
money's distributed, it'll make more sense.
Because there ain't a fucking chance in hell that they're keeping the
government
shut down to protect your health.
Yeah.
There's not a chance.
There's not a chance they're shutting down the fucking air traffic controllers.
Not a chance they're shutting down NASA because they're worried about you
getting the flu.
That shit is not happening.
That's not what's going on.
But I think everybody's starting to realize that.
Dude, I went to the post office.
Have you been to the post office recently?
I have not.
Okay.
Not since I voted.
That was the last time I was at the post office.
Okay.
Well, it's over.
So if you want to know what the post office is like, dude.
I'm not even joking.
I went into the closest branch near me in Nashville.
There was two birds.
There was two crows in there.
One of them was a crow, definitely.
One of them was a pretty big bird.
And I thought it was a crow.
But he had some discoloration or whatever.
So maybe like a mulatto crow or a mixed crow or something.
I don't know.
Okay.
Pulling a fucking box.
Like fighting over a fucking box in there.
And there's a lady, kind of like a darker woman in there.
And she's spraying fucking Lysol trying to get them out of the fucking post
office.
I was like, Lysol?
Yeah, or like a fabuloso, like a cleaning spray, like a disinfectant.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
Like she's standing on a little stepladder trying to fucking get these two
birds who were
fighting over a fucking package.
I was like, we're fucked.
We're fucked, man.
That's, and that's, that's the government.
Right?
That's biblical.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm sure it seems like a Stephen King outtake, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm like, this is where we are.
This is, this is how, like, everything's privatized now.
It's a wrap.
Do you feel like it's a wrap?
Like, I've been thinking for years that America just feels like a shell company,
like a shell
LLC.
Here's the thing about it being privatized.
Some things probably should be privatized because they work better.
Okay, well, like FedEx came along, UPS came along.
So those came along.
But the post office still does a good job, man.
No.
I'm going to disagree with that.
I'm sorry.
I never disagreed with you, I don't think.
The post office is the only people that are sending letters for you for like 30
cents or
whatever it costs.
And then the post office are the only way that you could ship chickens, live
chicks, like
little baby chicks.
They have to do it through the post office because they know what to do and
they keep them alive.
They know they're chicks.
Oh, that's nice.
I didn't know that.
All the, we've had chickens, you know, and every chicken we get when we get
them, they're
baby chicks.
And they come in the mail?
They get them through the post office.
Post office delivers them.
Can you hear the package like that?
It's like, yeah, bro, the post office, it works.
It's not perfect because it's the government and there's no government programs
that are
perfect.
You know, it doesn't work that good anymore, though.
I think it's, it's gotten so bad, dude.
The post office is, bro, it's gotten bad.
I sent my niece a birthday card, dude.
She never got it.
She never got it.
It had money.
It's gone.
It's gone.
She'll never get it.
Bro, you know what always kills me?
Nobody's getting anything.
The videos of these people dropping off UPS packages, they take a picture of
the package
and then they steal the package.
I've seen that.
I've seen videos of that.
I think people are kind of hip to what ring cameras could do, but bro, there
was quite
a while where people were doing some really fucking horrible shit right in
front of those
cameras because they didn't know.
They didn't know.
You can't be just stealing people's packages after you drop them off, like the
fucking UPS
driver, you know?
It's a fucking wild time, dude.
Like a lot of videos of that, man.
They put them down, take a picture, and then they pick them up, take them back
to their
truck.
And take them back.
And then the camera's like, hey, fuck face.
Yeah.
Hey, motherfucker.
Yeah.
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Listen, man.
They should have different ring cameras, like a voice, like, this is Mr. T. You
need to
bring that package back, sucker.
That is one of the dirtiest things.
Porch pirates.
People that are just stealing shit off your porch.
To get that close to somebody's house to be right there.
That's one thing I like about living in a state where there is the ability to
express something.
You're talking about guns.
Bulletarily.
That's all I can say.
There's the ability to express something bulletarily to somebody if you
disagree, if their behavior
is illegal.
Yeah.
You got to be careful about that, though.
The laws are different in different places.
Like, even if someone's stealing something, you're not allowed to kill them.
Yeah.
A guy just got in trouble because some dudes, I think there was three dudes,
broke into his
garage, and he went into his garage, and they went after him, and he shot them.
And he killed one of them.
And now they're bringing him up for manslaughter.
Because I guess they're saying he didn't have to shoot them.
He could have just scared them.
Or he didn't have to kill them.
He could have just retreated back into his home.
Like, in California, they're literally telling you.
Oh, you just scared them with a gun, I guess?
I guess.
But, like, you don't know what they have.
You don't know what's going on.
These are split-second decisions you're making with your life in danger.
And then if you have a wife and children, bro, you're going to shoot first and
ask
questions later.
You're not going to make a mistake that's going to have your kids killed.
Yeah, you can be like, are you scared or what?
You can't say that kind of shit.
No, bro, it's scary.
Someone's breaking into your home.
You have no idea what they have.
You have no idea if they're there to kill you, if you have no idea if they're
there to
rob you, if they're going to duct tape you and torture you for a week.
You don't know what the fuck is going on.
And if you have a gun, you're most likely going to use it.
You're going to shoot them.
And the fact that these people broke into his house, they were committing a
crime in
defending his property and maybe his life, he's getting charged with manslaughter.
That's that's ridiculous.
This is the this is the problem with liberal politics.
And this is where I get really confused because I'm like, I don't know what
they're trying
to do.
But if I was going to try to destroy civilization, that's how I would do it.
Yeah, I would keep keep letting violent people out.
Keep saying it's racist to keep them in jail.
Keep saying, you know, they're a victim of systematic racism and just like let
the violent
people stay being violent.
And then when people defend themselves, lock them up.
Have everybody scared.
If you wanted to destroy society, you would do it exactly this way.
And I don't understand that.
I don't understand.
Like it's I understand being a kind, compassionate person doesn't believe in
gun violence.
Absolutely.
But if that's the case, like there's no better deterrent to gun violence than
someone who
has a gun and you can't get to their house because they'll fucking shoot you.
OK, like that's that's a really good deterrent unless you're going to have
police everywhere
and you don't.
So like who's going to protect people from bad people if you're going to admit
that bad
people exist, if you want to stop bad people from happening, that's a
conversation.
I'd love to have.
That's a real conversation.
Like, let's figure out how to clean up a lot of these neighborhoods and figure
out what's
causing all these problems.
Nobody wants to do that or would have been done by now at this point.
People just want to kind of keep these higher powers.
They know what they're doing.
It just starts to feel like the experiment, like we're just really seeing the
experiment,
you know.
It's almost like say you were playing the game Mario or something.
Right.
One day Mario, instead of just going this way on the screen, he fucking turns
and looks at
you and he's like, I see what you're doing.
That's what it feels like we are right now.
Like we're, we're looking right at the people controlling everything and be
like, Oh, that's
all because of the internet dog.
But it feels like it wasn't for the internet.
No one would be looking because we wouldn't be getting these conversations.
Right.
We'd still be, we'd still be, people would still be disillusioned.
You'd be getting CNN.
You'd be getting some horseshit version of what's actually going on.
But because of the internet and real independent journalists and people that
are breaking things
down, you start to go, wait a minute, what the fuck is going on?
Yeah.
Who is, who is doing this?
Why are you doing it?
Want some coffee, dog?
Can I have some?
Fuck yeah, of course you can.
Oh, thanks, buddy.
Yeah, man.
I mean, we're the first generation that has had, cheers, my brother.
Cheers, man.
Good to see you, dude.
Good to see you always.
Really, I'm excited to see you.
I'm excited to see you too, always.
And I'm excited to see you a little clearer than I do.
I don't think you are.
I think it's, I think they got you.
I think they're fucking with you, man.
I think they're giving you placebos too.
Oh, yeah, really?
Yeah, I think they gave you a, let me take some whatever pills they give you.
Let's see what happens.
No, these are 15s, I think.
These are good.
15s?
What does that mean?
I don't know.
Bro, he fogged up.
He fogged up from the coffee, gotcha.
You fucking gave me this molten coffee, dude.
Black rifle in the house.
Is it?
Always.
That's all we drink.
Dude, I went, oh, yeah, well, there's, yeah, I'm just at the journalism now.
I can't, I know this is too hot for me right now.
It's not that hot.
I'm going to need glasses for my tongue after I drink this, dude.
No, it's not that hot.
No, no, no, it's an illusion.
It's warm.
It's decently hot.
You know, it's nice.
Nice.
Yeah.
Refreshing.
It is good.
Yeah, like refreshing.
Not like ouchie.
Why can't Starbucks figure that out?
Because I don't even think it gets coffee anymore.
It's almost become like McDonald's.
It's just a, it's a.
It's burnt.
It's a taste.
It's just a thing.
I drink black coffee.
That's what I drink.
That's what I like.
I got into it a while ago, like years ago.
I like my shit like Rick Ross, bro.
That's what I like Rick Ross in my mouth.
You know what I got into it, Jamie?
Remember when we had that guy, Peter Giuliani on?
That was the coffee connoisseur?
That got me into, I started drinking black coffee from then on.
That was a long time ago.
At least 10 years ago, right?
I had a real coffee connoisseur on.
Yeah?
Because I wanted to know all about coffee.
Like a sommelier kind of?
Yeah, man.
Dude, it's fat.
He brought in a bunch of different coffees.
We were tasting like these Ethiopian blends that almost was like lemony.
He was like, you taste the hints of lemon?
I'm like, I do?
Did you know all coffee comes from Ethiopia?
Uh-uh.
Yes.
Some of it comes, I know, from, there's Kona coffee, isn't there?
Right.
But it all originated in Ethiopia.
That's where the plant originated.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So they moved it into South America.
So like they started making it in Colombia.
They make it in Hawaii.
It has bomb diggity coffee.
Kona coffee is some of the best coffee in the world.
I guess probably the soil, like something about the Hawaiian volcanic.
We were also in Hawaii.
If I fucking drink my own piss in Hawaii, I'm still, it's a little better than
if I'm
drinking it in fucking, outside of Akron.
You know what I'm saying?
Outside of Akron.
Smokestacks in the background.
Yeah, dude, my bucket, bro.
You're drinking a liter of piss before you get in the sauna with your neighbor.
Bro, yeah.
Before I get a little bag for my-
Someone's got a urine therapy protocol that you have to take with your cocaine.
Dude, yeah.
Bro, even a hot match of piss in Hawaii tastes way better.
That's so true.
But I drink it in America.
Like I used to order Kona coffee.
Yeah.
But yeah, tell me-
Before I went Black Rifle exclusive.
Yeah.
Well, I met the guy from Black Rifle, Evan Baker, right?
Oh, Evan, he's a good friend of mine.
Nice guy.
I love him to death.
Yeah, he took me around whenever I was there.
He's one of my absolute favorite people.
Oh, I'm wearing one of his shirts.
Look at that dog.
He treated me super well, dude.
He's the best.
Dude, somebody-
Oh, Candace Owens sent me that thing.
It was-
You got notes?
She sent-
Bro, you brought notes.
There's things I wanted to talk about.
I just want to forget them.
Okay.
It's been hard for me to remember stuff.
Okay.
I'll help you out.
You will?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You get some alpha brain.
Take some-
Have you ever-
Do you ever take vitamins for your brain?
Nope.
It works.
I will take some.
Yeah.
I'd love to have some.
There's a bunch of different kinds.
You should try what you like.
But another real good one is this company, Neuro Gum.
They make Neuro Gum and Neuro Mints.
I've heard you talk about it.
That's really good.
There's one called True Brain.
They make a little shot.
That's really good.
Magic Mind, I know, has one that I think is pretty good.
That's a different one.
That's a different kind.
They use mushrooms, but that's a good one, too.
I've been hearing about it.
I think synergistically, they would all work well together.
But there's legit vitamins that work on your brain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That work on your memory?
Yeah.
I wanted to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll probably.
I would like to try.
I'll give you some before we leave.
I have some Alpha Brain Black Label around here somewhere.
I definitely have a few bottles in the kitchen, but that's the best.
Alpha Brain.
I've tried them all, even though I know I'm associated with Onnit, and I'm
probably lying.
I'm not.
Because I tell you about all the other ones, I don't make a penny off of them,
but Alpha
Brain, I think, is the best one.
It's the most effective.
Yeah.
And it's the only one that I know of that did two double-blind placebo-controlled
studies
with the Boston Center for Memory.
Alpha Brain?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we did that because a lot of people were saying it was snake oil.
The Boston Center for Memory.
Like, how many hits did you close out?
Hey, buddy.
What year did the Sox make it into the series?
Dude, one time I was going into a show.
We were outside of Boston.
We had a show outside of Boston.
It's like a theater.
It's like 15, 20 minutes away.
And I'm walking in.
I'm walking in late.
Everybody's already in there.
I think the show had started, so I'm coming in.
And a guy and his wife were walking by with pizza.
They're heading in.
And the guy's like, Dorothy, give him your fucking pizza.
The guy's starving.
He's late for work.
And I'm like, I'm fine.
And first of all, why don't you just give me your pizza, dude?
He's like, Dorothy.
This kind of big back lady, she said, that is muffling down a piece of pizza,
dude.
He was trying to get you to give her pizza?
His wife to give me her pizza.
But not his pizza.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That's a bad relationship.
He's like, Dorothy, can't you see the guy?
He's running late for work.
He's trying to tell his wife he's fat, and he's doing it a subtle way.
Well, he was using me, so I'm like, Dorothy, I'm fine.
You know?
Yeah, he was using you.
But it was just like a Boston thing.
Or he was just trying to have some conversation.
It might have been that.
Maybe we're looking into it too much.
Dude, I had a dream you were in EMT, dude.
Have you ever had that?
Really?
You had a dream I was in EMT?
Yeah.
And I've had it two times.
Really?
I was like tending to car accidents and stuff?
Yeah.
Really?
And I think it was in Boston.
I think that's what even made me think about it.
I could have gone down that route in life, maybe, if things had been different.
That's possible.
I could have saw that.
That could have happened.
I almost joined the Army when I was 18 for their Taekwondo team.
There was a dude, I think his name was Clay Barber.
He was one of the national competitors that I looked up to when I was on my way
up.
And he was in the Army, and the Army paid him to train.
And I was like, oh, shit, you could join the Army, and they'll pay you to
compete?
Because they had an Army boxing team.
I believe Ray Mercer was on the Army boxing team when he fought in the Olympics
and won the gold medal.
Do you have to be, but do you also have to do service as well?
Was this Jimmy?
Is that him?
No, he was a black guy.
Oh, there's a, see the Taekwondo?
It says right there to the right.
Yeah, the one with the right where it says his name, right there.
Click on that.
The one that your cursor's over, dog.
Clay Barber, right there.
Yeah.
So he was really good in like, I guess it was probably like 86 or, yeah,
somewhere around, I was 18, so it had to be 85 or 86.
Ooh, baby girl.
But that's the dude right there.
He was an elite national competitor in my weight class.
He'll kick a fucking whisper out of your mouth.
That dude's a gangster, huh?
Yeah, he was really good.
But he was competing for the Army team.
And so I was like, maybe I should join the Army.
And then I thought about it.
I was like, I don't want to get shot.
Like, what am I doing?
Like, I don't trust anybody.
Did you even try on the clothes at home or anything?
Or did you do anything?
No, I didn't try on the clothes.
I saluted in the mirror a couple times.
I'm like, no, we're good.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah.
I guess I don't know if I could see you being in the Army.
But yeah, it was just a dream.
It was just, I think it was like, honestly, I think it was like you and Goggins,
I think, were maybe like EMTs or whatever.
That sounds like something Goggins would do.
But y'all did not fucking, you guys did not deal with anybody's bullshit.
Like, you guys showed up and you were like, get the fuck up.
You're like, what the fuck?
You're a fucking pussy.
I don't even think you had any, like, I don't think you had even a step.
You had like a whistle.
You're like, bullshit.
You know what Goggins does that a lot of people don't know about?
He smoke jumps.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I used to smoke and play high school basketball.
That's very different.
It's very different.
He parachutes into fires.
Oh, yeah.
That's not it.
Like in Canada.
For fun?
Because it's hard.
Oh.
Literally.
Because it's hard to do.
Dude's worth like $30 million.
He jumps out of fucking planes with parachutes.
And he sent me a photo of a giant-ass fucking grizzly track.
They landed in Canada at this place.
And right where they landed to fight these fires, it was like, I mean, like a
grizzly track.
And he was like, wish me luck.
I was like, dude, get the fuck out of there.
Have you seen that track?
Get the fuck out of there.
That's an 1,100-pound wild dog.
Wow.
And he just does it because he wants to.
Because it's hard to do.
You're laying just in the smoke.
Yeah.
Now, when you get in there, do they have a plan of where you're going?
Is it firemen and firewomen in there?
Well, there's a lot of different tasks that they do.
But one of them is you're digging a fire break.
So, like, a lot of what happens is embers land on the ground and then it starts
a fire, right?
So, what they do is they'll clear the ground for a wide area where the fire is
coming.
Okay.
So, the fire is on its way.
They'll get ahead of the fire and then they'll clear a giant path on the ground.
Oh, baby girl.
That would scare me.
It's scary.
That would scare me.
Guys die.
I mean, 100%, they get trapped and they die.
Yeah, I'm sure.
The wind shifts, you know, sometimes things are unpredictable, but he does it
just because it's hard.
He's so crazy.
Does he have to sign a con?
He must have to sign something, huh?
Bro, I don't know what he does.
I bet he doesn't even tell him he's David Goggins.
He just shows up.
I'm telling you, man, he's a different cat.
Like, he's the real deal.
Like, he's not pretending to do all these things.
Right.
You've seen those videos where he takes UFC fighters on workouts and they're
dying?
Like, he took Israel out of Sanya.
Israel out of Sanya.
Two-time middleweight motherfucking champion of the world.
One of the best to ever do it.
Elite athlete.
Dying.
I mean, couldn't keep up.
Goggins was talking to him like, come on, son.
Keep going.
He's like, he's throwing up in a garbage can.
Like, no bullshit.
It's crazy to watch because you realize, like, the level of conditioning this
guy has.
He's 50 years old.
He's not doing it for any reason.
Like, he's not getting ready for the World Series.
He's not in the Super Bowl.
What do you think?
He's proven it to himself?
You'd have to ask him.
I mean, he says he's learning things.
I'm downloading lessons.
Like, yeah.
He's just, he's that guy, man.
Like, there's a lot of, what is that?
I found the track, sorry.
What is it?
The track.
The Grizzly track.
Oh, show me, show me.
I sent it to you, right?
Yeah.
It's on my headphones on.
Put your headphones on.
All right.
Check this out.
Hang on one second.
Show me, show me, show me.
Remember that song?
Yeah.
The one that makes me scream.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Cure.
The Cure, yeah.
Yeah.
They were good.
They passed away, huh?
Did they?
I think before they, yeah.
I don't think, well, there's multiple members.
Did that guy pass away?
The lead singer of The Cures?
The Cure, rather.
What's the matter, Jamie?
Well, I had it on my phone.
I didn't have it on my computer.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, and I had a way to do it.
You jumped the gun.
Why don't you send it to me, and I'll send it to you?
And you'll have it on your computer.
I found it on my phone.
Dude, if you were an EMT, that'd be sick, huh?
Oh, I think it's a bummer, man.
I don't even think you'd get out of the vehicle.
You'd pull up and be like, get the fuck up.
I'd probably be real sad.
And then Goggins would go help him?
Goggins would be like, get the fuck up.
I love you, little pussy.
Just send it to me, and I'll send it to you.
I have it.
I have it.
I just can make it bigger.
Here it is.
That's good.
Give me some volume.
Look at that.
Oof.
See these grizzly bear prints, man?
Look at these motherfuckers, dude.
They're as big as my foot.
This is a massive fucking grizzly bear.
Look at that, dude.
Massive fucking grizzly bear.
Look at that paw.
That's crazy.
Look at how wide it is.
This is fucking a massive-ass grizzly bear.
And as you see...
Where's it going?
He walks right through there, through those woods, so...
Probably over the mountain.
We are in big-time grizzly bear territory.
Bro.
That's so sketchy.
That's cool.
That's so sketchy.
He sent me that.
Yeah, because I was like, what are you doing?
And he sends me that.
This is what I'm doing.
Other people are like, I'm watching football.
Right.
Yeah.
He's like, I just fucking parachuted into grizzly country.
Oh, man.
There's nothing scarier than big animals like that.
Nothing scarier.
I get the most scared, honestly, in my life.
When I was young, they had a lot of pedophiles in our area, and I think that
kind of made me nervous, but probably being in the ocean.
You had a lot of pedophiles in your neighborhood?
Oh, yeah.
Like, how many?
I mean, I think at least three is enough for, like, a small area.
Three is more than enough.
Yeah.
How come nobody did anything about it?
They did.
I mean, they put them in our neighborhood.
Like, yeah.
That's not what I mean.
I mean, how come nobody arrested them?
Oh, they'd been arrested.
Yeah.
These were guys who were, like, uh.
They were released?
Yeah.
They used to have this thing.
Remember when they had this?
I wonder when that rule was.
It was like the pedophiles had to go around door to door.
Oh, and let everybody know.
No, they were pedophiles, right?
Right.
That was a law that they passed.
You had to alert people that a sex offender had moved into the neighborhood.
Well, we lived.
Our mom worked all the time, and we were just at home all the time.
So you'd have pedophiles literally come to the door.
And let you know.
Yeah.
And they'd be like, is your mom home?
And they'd be like, no.
And they were like, well, I'm a pedophile.
You're like, well.
That's a problem.
Yeah.
Come back after six, you know.
But so it was just crazy.
Like, you know.
But then at least you did know who the people were.
Yeah.
But it was definitely weird that you're setting.
And they don't live in nice neighborhoods.
You know.
Like, now there's a lot of, like, billionaire pedophiles that our government
protects and
stuff.
But back then.
You really think so?
I don't know.
I don't know either.
That's what makes me nervous.
I don't know.
I mean, they just had that thing that came out about the Trump-Evstein thing.
That whole thing's just a kickball at this point, I feel like.
Bro, have you ever seen that video of me and Tim Dillon where Tim Dillon is
laying out the
scandal that took place in, like, was it the 1970s, Jamie?
The Franklin scandal.
The Franklin scandal?
What year was that?
I think in the 80s and 90s.
Bro.
Were you all dressed up like astronauts or something?
Was that the one?
Me and Tim Dillon?
No.
No, we were dressed normal.
Okay.
I don't even think he had the crazy glasses on back then.
That was before he was protecting his eyes.
Now he protects his eyes.
88.
88.
Play that video.
I sent it to you, right?
This video's nuts, man.
This was, Tim laid this out quite a while ago.
And I kind of forgot about it until it popped up on my feed.
I was like, oh, shit.
And then I said, I could send it back to you if you knew me.
Thank God for Tim Dillon.
Oh, my God.
He's the best.
There's never been a better ranter ever in the history of ranting.
Ever.
Ever.
Since, too.
I bet there was somebody a long time ago that was good, but we don't have
enough of his
work to really compete against Tim.
He's the funniest by far.
He's the most sarcastic, the most tongue-in-cheek, and the most well-read.
Yes.
The thing about Tim Dillon is, like, he doesn't just go with narratives because
he thinks that
you want him to say certain things.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, he's very, very well-read, and he forms his opinions based on facts and
then turns
it into humor.
Yeah.
He's the fucking man.
Play this.
It was a scandal out of Omaha, Nebraska, the Franklin Credit Union, where there
was a guy
who was embezzling money, and then he was being investigated for that, but they
said he
has all this money because he's running an interstate pedophile network, and he's
pandering
kids to people in Washington, D.C., and New York, and there was a headline in
the Washington
Post and the Washington Times that were like,
call boys get a tour of the Reagan White House.
The unidentified White House aides in the Carter, Reagan, and Bush administrations
now
are being investigated for using the services of a call boy ring.
The paper reports that two of the male prostitutes were given a late-night tour
of the White
House last year.
And, you know, this was a scandal with real victims who wanted to testify and
then people
started dying.
You know, the private investigator they hired, his plane broke up.
One of the girls that testified was found guilty of perjury and that she was
put in solitary confinement.
They had to use two grand juries in Omaha to get rid of this scandal.
Now, it's not as sexy as like a pizza gate or something because it happened in
the 80s and 90s,
but this shows you the blueprint for the government, you know, using marshaling
resources to silence
people that were victims of this stuff.
This is not new.
Congressman, senators, blackmail being used by intelligence agencies.
None of it's new.
It was pioneered by the mafia.
You're having sex with somebody who's underage.
Then they own you forever if they have photo, audio, video of you doing that.
Wild.
Wild.
So if that existed at all in the 1990s, okay, that Mitch McConnell guy was
around back then,
you know, a lot of these Nancy Pelosi type people, they've been around since
this.
These are just photos of Nancy Pelosi with JFK.
Think of that.
That was before we didn't go to the moon.
Yeah.
It was 1963.
That was before Israel didn't kill him.
You think so?
I didn't say anything.
I heard you say Israel killed him.
You did?
That's what I heard.
Jamie, did you put something in this?
They didn't, the glasses.
They didn't do it.
Oh, before Israel didn't do it.
Oh, I see what you did.
I think.
I didn't say anything.
I think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
Lee Harvey Oswald went to my middle school.
Do you know that?
No.
Yep.
What?
No shit.
Was there a plaque?
No, we did have a thing.
There was a thing.
What everybody recognized?
L-H-O.
Yeah.
L-H-O?
That's what you guys called him?
Yeah.
Like L-Ron Hubbard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
L-H-R.
They all salute L-Ron Hubbard.
Salute L-H-R.
With the big, you ever see Tom Cruise with the big pie plate medal?
He got a medal for being the most awesome guy ever.
He did?
Yeah, from Scientology.
And he salutes the photo of a science fiction writer.
Bro, it's the kookiest thing.
You never see-
A pie plate?
Bro, they-
Does he even-
Have you ever seen those Scientology awards?
Nuh-uh.
They're amazing.
I can see him eating a lot of desserts, really.
They're amazing.
They're amazing.
Uh-uh, I didn't even know that.
Look at that pie plate.
These are the times now.
See this.
Okay?
These are the times we will all remember.
Were you there?
What did you do?
I think you know that I am there for you.
And I do care so very, very, very much.
What is this about?
Is this a Marie Callender's ad?
Bro, what this is is amazing.
Just watch this.
Okay, sorry.
Here's what we're carrying on you.
Right?
To LRH.
To LRH.
Wow.
Crazy, right?
Bro, you want a Mission Impossible guy?
You want that guy?
That's what you get.
Yeah.
Okay, you don't get a normal dude who's that good at acting.
You get a fucking crazy person.
Who's that good at being himself.
With a pie plate around his neck.
A golden pie plate for being the most awesome guy ever.
And he salutes a science fiction author, who's, by the way, one of the worst
writers in the
history of writing.
LRH?
I've done the thing in New York where they try to electrocute you and see if
you care
about him or whatever.
Oh, I got that.
You know what I'm talking about?
I did that in San Diego.
You did?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When?
I was filming a TV show down there.
And, you know, we were in the middle of a break while we were filming.
And they had, like, a conference table set up.
Yeah.
It was, like, free personality test.
And I was like, what is this?
And I kind of knew what it was.
I knew it was Dianetics, you know, which is Scientology.
Mm-hmm.
But the guy was, like, they made him do it.
You could tell he was, like, non-enthusiastic at all about it.
You know, he would, like, ask you questions about, like, has one of your pets
died?
Like, that kind of shit.
Yeah.
He would hold his e-meter, and I'm like, how does this work?
Like, what is actually making this happen?
You know, I had all these questions that he had no answers for.
And then I started.
Of course you did.
That's your whole life.
L. Ron Hubbard wrote more fiction.
Yeah.
Than any human being that's ever lived.
He wrote more things that were not true.
More published fiction than any human being in the history of all human beings.
That guy.
The guy that created Scientology.
And you know how he did it?
It was all terrible.
He never wrote a second draft.
Everything was just nonsense.
One hit wonder?
One hit wonder.
Just out.
That's kind of brave, though.
Start typing.
Brave.
He was nuts.
He was out of his mind.
But people liked it enough, though.
Did you ever see that show?
They didn't, though.
He wasn't successful until he really started.
I mean, he was.
He did a lot of those, like, goofy magazines and stuff.
This was a long time ago.
Yeah.
You've got to realize.
But then, once he started a religion, that's when things took off.
That's when, like, started making money.
Gave himself a lot of...
He gave himself a bunch of awards, too.
You ever see, like, he wore a jacket and he had, like, all these awards on his
chest that
he had given himself?
That is crazy.
They love to give awards over there.
That's like the Golden Globes or whatever.
Yeah, same thing.
You know?
It really is.
They give themselves awards for being the most awesome people.
How crazy?
I mean, that whole...
It's all fucking ridiculous.
Weird.
But that's what I feel.
I feel like all of these balls of yarn that used to feel like they made so much
sense
and they kept us warm and they gave us senses of purpose, I feel like all of
them are becoming
unraveled.
But it makes me wonder, what's going to happen now?
Are we...
Because these are a lot of things that have felt like some of the blueprints of
our existence,
you know?
You know what makes me nervous?
Does it make any sense to you when I say that?
Yes.
A hundred percent.
Because that's kind of what I guess I'm most scared about.
I think, like, even this year, it's like some of my sense of, like, purpose or,
like,
I just worry that other people don't have a sense of purpose.
Or what's going on?
And it makes me kind of scared sometimes.
Well, that's a good perspective.
And I think it's accurate.
What makes me nervous is the people that are not aware that all of our
assumptions of how
the government works were all based on bullshit.
The people that still believe, that are, like, true believers of one side or
the other,
true faith in government and experts, those people make me more nervous.
Because some of them are smart.
That's what's crazy.
When smart people are completely unwilling to recognize that conspiracies are
not just real,
but they're also not rare, they're very common.
They're common and people get away with them.
Yeah.
Especially when they're in positions of extreme power, like running
intelligence agencies.
And there's a lot of things that they do that are morally reprehensible, but
totally legal.
Like, they can do it because they're allowed to, because they are a three-letter
organization and they have ultimate power to do a lot of, like, really gross
things that are in the nature or in the interest of national security.
So, like, this is the whole idea behind it.
They say, like, this is our decision.
This is the best move for national security.
This is how we compromise assets.
This is how we gather information.
This is how we keep America safe.
But why is it our FBI and CIA are working against us?
That's what it feels like.
They're just tricking us about everything.
It feels like—
They're tricking some people on purpose.
But why is that even their goal?
Like, I thought that they—
Because they're trying to arrest people.
So, this is the problem with your career, like, and this has been explained to
me by a lot of people that are experts and people that know.
John Caracow explained it this way.
Your reputation is based on how successful you have been arresting people,
cracking cases.
Yeah.
And so, people set up cases so they can break them.
Yeah.
They basically set up an escape room and they're like, I know how to get out of
here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they pretend that they're just, like, a regular wizard that stumbled into
the escape room.
No, you set the whole thing up.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Well, it's the same as, like—
There's a bunch of those stories.
Oh, I think it's the same as even with, like, Hollywood.
And, you know, I remember one day I was walking in the Century City Mall over
there.
It's in Los Angeles.
It's off of Santa Monica Boulevard.
Mm-hmm.
And there was, like, a blue-collar guy walking by.
He had, like, his—he was working construction.
They were building something there.
And I was like, he's like, Theo, what's up, man?
So, we were talking for a minute.
And I was like, what are y'all building?
He's like, dude, you're never even going to believe this.
We're building—he's like, 10 floors, 20th floor building.
He's like, 10 floors are talent agency, and the other 10 floors are for the CIA.
And I was like, what?
I was like, just in the same building.
Just happened to be—that's what you're building?
He's like, yep, that's what we're building.
And he wasn't lying.
I don't think he was lying to me.
It just seemed like a—it was just like—
It's a weird mixture.
Yeah.
Right.
But I think that this starts to happen.
News stories get created, right?
Yeah.
Things get—whether they're fictional, whatever goes on.
You don't even know a lot of times what's news stories.
You can send actors out to create a scene.
You see a video.
You believe it.
And then they make movies—
That's been done before.
Right.
That's been done before.
Oh, yeah.
There was—but then you see movies and stuff come out later about it.
So it's like you're almost creating your own news to then make like a—based
on a real story.
You know what I'm talking about?
Well, yeah.
Like it's all this—
I guess—yeah.
Like they let the talent agencies know that they're about to do this so you can
start casting the dramatic—
It makes sense because it's like then you're just—
Oh, God.
But it's just like what do we do, you know?
Well, they've been doing this forever.
They've been doing this forever.
Yeah.
And, you know, they've been shaping our views of war.
And, you know, that's one of the reasons why they started making all these war
movies.
Do you know that?
Mm-mm.
Okay.
So in World War I, one of the problems that they had was people didn't want to
be over there killing people.
Yeah.
And so people were shooting, but they weren't shooting at the actual enemy.
They would like shoot over their heads or shoot to the left of them or to the
right of them.
They didn't want to kill people.
And they realized like that you take people, just regular people from the city
and from the farm and put them in a uniform and tell them they have to go kill
people.
This is no YouTube back then, no television back then, right?
So their ideas of what's right and wrong are all based on their life.
Yeah.
Their actual life.
And so then they realized, well, we've got to do something about that.
And so after that, they started creating all these really patriotic war movies
where the guys are heroes.
They go over and they shoot all the bad guys and then they're awesome.
So then the next group of people that go to war are all going to be indoctrinated
with these films.
Right.
And these films are that America's the best and we're number one and we're
going to go over there.
And this is how you get all the girls.
You'd be a fucking hero and go over there and shoot those Germans.
Yeah.
And come back and play with a tit.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Come back and get ridden like a fucking cowboy.
Yeah.
Woo.
The tits will be here when you get off the boat.
Let's go, bro.
Give me that tit.
Yeah.
Baby girl.
And that's what they did.
I can see that.
And I mean.
Makes sense.
For sure.
Because it's almost like you're advertising.
The CIA and, you know, various federal organizations have a say in how America's
portrayed in movies.
Right.
It's like if you're going to get access to if you're going to do some film on,
you know, the
Pentagon or something like that, you bet, bitch, this better make us look good.
You know, they're not going to let you make them look like a bunch of bumbling
fucking
retards that are just doing it for their career.
No.
You better make us look good.
You can't fake what the Pentagon is, bitch.
You know.
And you're like, okay, sir.
Yeah.
Tell me how you'd like Mr. Cruz to talk about his work.
And, you know, you'd make them look like the most awesome human beings that
have ever been.
So that way, like, you want to support them.
You want to fund them.
And you want to listen to them when they're talking on the news.
Well, in a lot of, like, the projects, I think they have to have people from
these organizations
that come and, like, oversee how the organization is presented, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So it's like if you want to do something where the Navy's involved, you have to
have people
there from the Navy that are, like, overseeing it and making sure that
everything
is presented, you know, to be true to the Navy.
But also, like, there could be maybe some manipulation there.
But we just had Gary Sinise was on the podcast, man.
It was really cool.
Oh, he's cool.
Dude, if you ever want to donate to something where people do, man, wouldn't it
just an
impressive, his whole organization.
What is he doing?
Well, he does a lot of stuff for veterans, right?
He does a lot of stuff for first responders, you know, or EMTs.
He does a lot of stuff for, he does this thing where they take kids who have
lost a parent
to the, in military action.
He takes them to Disney World every year, like, this big group of them, you
know?
Just, but just, like, really, like, does it, you know?
Like, he has a band that plays.
There's a bunch of organizations.
He was, like, one of the first responders of, um, out there feeding people, uh,
feeding
the first responders who were there at the Palisades when that happened.
Just, like, a lot of neat stuff, you know?
Big heart, big heart.
Did you ever think you'd be in the position you're in where you're just having
all these
weird conversations with interesting people?
Because this is not like...
No.
When I first met you, I would have never suspected that this would be a path
that you would go
down.
Yeah, not at all.
You know?
It's interesting that you went down that.
Like, how, what, what led you to want to start doing that?
Well, I think a couple of things.
I think, um, well, I think I, I didn't know I was kind of competitive in some
ways, you
know?
Like, I think, um, I think I'm kind of competitive.
Like, I want to see what's possible that's maybe inside of me, you know?
So competitive with yourself or competitive with other people that are also
doing it?
Um, just competitive because I think I, I, I, there was, I felt like maybe some
people
thought this thing, like, oh, this guy can't do it, you know?
Oh, interesting.
I don't think that's, I think there were some people that were maybe like, oh,
I'm surprised
that this guy enjoys this or likes doing it, but I think there was like, yeah,
that this
guy can't do it.
And I just never had a voice when I was a kid, you know, I never had a voice.
Right.
You know, so much of my childhood, I think I just couldn't even speak up for
myself.
I didn't even know what I wanted to say.
I didn't even know what my feelings were.
Right.
I just, I was just like this.
I just, it, it just felt tough, you know?
And so I think when, yeah, when I started to kind of get into podcasting and
have a little
bit more of a voice and then to get to talk to some people that I, that, that,
that I felt
like were important that weren't getting voices, like even like we had a doctor
from Gaza on
last year or this year.
And that was like a moment for me.
I was like, oh, this is important stuff.
You know, like, um, other people aren't putting this voice out there, right?
Some people are, but like the mainstream media, I don't feel like was doing a
good job of
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Well, that's not what they do, you know.
I mean, the reason why we can do what we do is because there's not really
anyone over there doing it.
They never figured this out before.
They never figured out that, hey, there's a lot of people that are in their car
for hours every day.
They're on the train for hours every day.
They're in the gym.
They're doing different stuff where they want to listen to things.
Or when they come home, they don't want to watch late night TV.
They want to watch an interesting conversation, you know.
Yeah.
That just, they didn't know that that was a thing.
That's all that was.
We snuck in.
I think we snuck in.
I think they had no idea.
They thought this was just shitty radio.
Yeah.
You know.
And I think my whole life, I think people looked at me and thought, oh, this
dude's just fucking shitty radio.
Or I felt like that in a way, you know.
Well, I think, like, when was the first time?
And I still think it is.
My show, I mean, look, I feel lucky to have a show.
We work hard, you know, with podcasting.
I feel lucky to get to talk to a lot of people.
I don't think we do a lot of information type of stuff, you know.
And I wish we could do better with that sometimes.
I think maybe that's a goal of mine next year is to try to learn more stuff.
Just in the day-to-day so I can have conversations that are maybe more
important.
But then also, maybe that's not what I'm supposed to do.
And I'm just supposed to be just having conversations that are fun.
And so.
Well, it's what you're supposed to do if that's what you want to do.
But what I think is the only important thing, the only important thing.
Is what you want to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To be genuinely curious about whatever you're talking about.
I agree.
You know, and then hopefully be talking to someone who's telling the truth.
That's where it gets weird.
Now, sometimes people will be charismatic and they'll be very persuasive.
But it turns out they have an agenda and they're not telling the truth.
And you might not know that.
That becomes a problem.
Yeah, I realize that.
Some people are taking advantage of the fact that they'll come on.
And I sometimes have been a little bit naive to think that somebody would do
that.
But people do do that.
Oh, 100%.
Like heads of state, you know, like if you're going to have someone who's the
president of
a country that's in the middle of a war and they want to come on your podcast
and talk,
you're not going to get anything objective.
You're going to get them selling that they're the good guys.
And that's weird.
That's a weird one.
Because unless you're an absolute expert in what is going on in that region and
you know
exactly what's true and what's not.
And there's two very compelling and very loud narratives, you know, good luck.
Good luck sorting out that conversation.
I'm not interested in having those conversations.
Yeah.
But I am interested in having conversations with people that I think are
intriguing, you
know, that I think are being honest.
And whether I agree with them or not, they're being honest and they're
intriguing.
That's what I like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think some of that is me learning a little bit more.
I mean, I think I do like having stuff where people have more feelings and
their stories
about stuff, you know.
So that's something that I would maybe like to focus on more next year.
Like people's genuine human experiences, you know.
Like a guy or a woman or a kid, somebody who's been through something, you know,
wants to
share some of that.
Right.
So maybe that's something I'll try to get into a little bit more.
I don't know.
But yeah, I just feel lucky.
Like my mom listens to my podcast every week, you know, and we never got to
spend any time
together when I was a kid.
So sometimes that kind of even keeps me going, you know.
It's like she's like our biggest fan.
And so it's weird.
That's going to make her proud.
It was just so weird when I was a kid.
Like she didn't have any time and then now she just like, you know, she loves
him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, yeah.
I don't know.
And it's like just afforded me a lot of like just neat opportunities.
Yeah.
Sometimes talking to people, like we got to learn about like the health care
last year
and how, you know, a lot of these political parties have put forward these like
like these
presidential, what's it called when they sign something like this is an order,
like an
executive order.
Right.
That price transparency needs to happen with health care.
Right.
And so that was something that I realized was super important to me because
like Bernie Sanders
agrees with it.
Trump agrees with it.
Thomas Massey agrees with it.
Roe Conn agrees with it.
There's all these people that say they agree with it and everybody says, but it
never really
gets to where it needs to be.
Right.
So you can go to a place and a hospital can charge you anything for an MRI.
Right.
They're supposed to show their prices like a menu.
And if they do that, then they have to compete.
You could call two places.
This person's like, well, it's 30,000 bucks.
And this person's like, no, it's 700 bucks.
So you're going to go there.
Right.
But they, they keep it vague so they can like keep the prices really high and
then they
can keep this whole insurance rigmarole going on.
Well, they're private corporations.
That's what's nuts.
You know, the private companies own hospitals.
They're private, you know?
So that's probably why they can do it too.
You go there hoping that they're there for your best interest.
What they're there is to make the most money possible.
And to, one of the ways they do that is they're incentivized to give you
certain medications
financially.
Financially incentivized to give you certain pharmaceutical products and they
make more
money if they do that.
I had Mary Talley Bowden on the podcast.
She's a respiratory physician and she, doctor, whatever it is.
She was saying that if she vaccinated all of her patients, she has a very small
practice.
She vaccinated all of her patients for COVID.
She would have made $1.5 million.
Wow.
Like that's, that's motivation.
Like that's not.
For sure.
Someone's not going to, they're not going to give you objective advice unless
they're a
really good person like she is.
They're not going to give you objective advice.
What they're going to say is, hey, they say you should take it.
I say you should take it too because I want to go, I want to go golfing.
Yeah.
I want a BMW and I want to go golfing.
So take it.
I don't care if you're in a fucking wheelchair in three weeks at a myocarditis.
I want an M5.
I've got it picked out already.
I want the carbon interior, carbon fiber accents.
It's just, yeah.
It's a trap.
It's a trap.
But learning about like that kind of stuff, like things like that used to be
like, oh,
this is a little cause that like means something to me, you know?
Because then you think there are people probably right now that are afraid to
go get health
care because then it messes up your credit, right?
Like the number one cause of bankruptcy in America is medical debt.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It's crazy.
So now you're in debt and now there's the stress of that.
It's like.
Also, the problem is the system is so deeply intertwined in our society that to
unwind it
now and to somehow or another start some sort of competent social medicine.
But that's the other problem is socialized medicine has not been effective
anywhere.
Like everywhere else, like the difference between, it's really a difference
between money.
Like if you have money in America and you break your leg, you can go to a
really good doctor
and you get your leg fixed.
Break your leg.
Right?
If you have money, if you're using, if you have socialized medicine and you're
in England,
for instance, I have a lot of friends in England that have, they use the socialized
medicine
there.
They have it in Canada, like my friend in Canada, it took her a year to get a
knee reconstruction
and they did a terrible job of it.
They repaired her ACL and she's still, she's fucked.
You can't fully straighten her leg out.
Yeah.
Every time she fucking look, yeah.
She just moonwalks everywhere.
She's got a limp, a noticeable limp and they just fucked it up.
They did a shitty job.
And you know, look, that could happen in America too, but you could get an
operation quicker
here, but it's really just money.
And the real problem with America is that you could have something really wrong
with you
and you have insurance and then your insurance denies you coverage for what's
wrong with
you.
Like Ben Askren.
You know the story with Ben Askren?
I know he's been getting better, right?
He's been getting better.
He had a double lung transplant.
He had lung, and the insurance didn't cover it.
How, how could you not cover that?
The guy gets sick.
It turns out he's a very rare, like, I think it was like a staph infection or
some kind
of bacterial infection that was eating his lungs.
So they had to put him on a respirator.
He was on a respirator for a long time.
Then they had to give him a double lung transplant.
And insurance companies didn't cover it.
Yeah.
It's like, well, what are you even there for?
And then the stress, imagine his wife probably, or him, is in and out of
consciousness.
He has to call them probably.
And just the stress of like, we can't do it.
Can you fill out these forms?
Just, it's almost like they just want to kill you with the stress.
It's just.
They just want to spend the least amount of money possible and make the most
amount of
money possible.
But when does it all end?
And UnitedHealthcare, there's something about UnitedHealthcare that's attached
to this
government shutdown bill, too.
The reason why they were shutting down the guy, there's something about the
flow of money
to UnitedHealthcare, which is, you know, that company where that guy got assassinated.
Everybody cheered.
Also, because Luigi's kind of hot.
Good looking guy.
I didn't see it.
You didn't see Luigi?
No, I'm joking.
Yeah.
I thought he's looking pretty good.
I mean, he's fine.
Yeah.
I like women.
Handsome hero.
Yeah, but still handsome guy.
Well, I'm not saying you don't like women, but you know, I'm not saying you
fuck alligators,
but you know what one looks like.
Yeah.
Come on, dog.
You're right about that.
That's a good call.
Hey, I ain't gay, but I'll hold it in my mouth until a gay guy gets there.
I go, if I told you it's an alligator, you wouldn't be like, bro, I'm not gay.
Yeah.
You would say, yes, it is an alligator.
Dude, my butt.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm saying Luigi's handsome, and you're like, I'm not gay.
And I'm like, that's not what I asked.
Right.
I asked you if you can see things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Take those fucking shitty fake glasses off.
Maybe you can tell Luigi's a handsome man.
Can you tell if they're helping or not?
You know, a lot of people think that Luigi was like some MKUltra thing.
Oh.
They tricked him and hypnotized him and got him to go in and shoot that guy.
Well, I think there's a lot of that going on.
And yes, I did have dinner at Candace Owen's house recently, so maybe, you know,
there's
definitely, you know, a lot of conspiratorial foods on the menu.
You know, I don't know if I'd say that.
I mean, they had like an unvaccinated quail with like an mRNA demi-glaze, so
maybe, you
know, kind of, you think?
Bro, they're trying to vaccinate cows.
Do you know about that?
They're trying to give cows mRNA vaccines.
Are they really?
Yeah.
They're just trying to use the technology to make money.
If you really think they're doing it to protect the cows, you're out of your
fucking
mind.
Any of this stuff is just about money.
Cows are fine.
There's nothing wrong with the cows.
The cows are fucking fine.
Why are they even doing that then?
Let the cows eat grass.
They'll be even better.
That's what they're supposed to be eating.
Let them all eat grass.
They'll be fine.
But occasionally some cows will get sick.
Brucellosis is real.
It's when bisons and cows intermingle, you know, but bisons give cows brucellosis
and
it kills a bunch of them.
But other than that, fucking relax.
Yeah.
Relax.
Well, it just never ends.
It feels like there's everything.
There's just always a problem with everything.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm tripping.
The worry that people have is that somehow or another that stuff's going to get
into your
food.
Well, they're right, probably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're right.
Because they've already talked about somehow or another getting mRNA vaccines
into vegetables
so that you wouldn't even have to get vaccinated.
You can get it from your diet.
They tried to give me a tetanus shot the other day.
It doesn't even work.
What, tetanus shot?
No, the fucking mRNA vaccines.
You're putting it in food and it doesn't even work.
Dude, I'm not taking it.
It doesn't work when you take it.
People aren't even taking it anymore.
And now you're trying to put it in food.
What are they putting it in?
You said radish or what was it?
Cucumbers?
I don't know.
They were trying to put it in vegetables.
It's like, I mean, I think it's theoretical at this point, but I know Bill
Gates was talking
about it.
I just feel it's like, when does it end?
Like, when is it like?
It ends when they stop making money.
As long as they can figure out a way to trick you into thinking that you need
something
or, you know, you're not going to make any money.
Did you know that tetanus, well, you were talking about tetanus.
Did you know tetanus is a bacteria?
And it's extremely rare in America.
Like, very, very, very, very few people ever get tetanus.
You think tetanus comes from a dirty nail, like a step on a nail.
No, tetanus is a bacteria.
Yeah.
And it can be cleaned out.
And also tetanus is the one of the rare vaccines that works as a prophylactic,
like after the
fact, like you could get step on a nail.
You don't have tetanus yet.
They give you the tetanus vaccine after you stepped on the nail and it still
protects you.
No, it protects you.
Right.
So you don't need to take it.
Tetanus is super rare in America.
It's not.
You could completely fix it by cleaning out the wound.
And if you get tetanus, they just inject you with the tetanus vaccine then.
Like, there's no need to give tetanus shots to babies.
Yeah, they were saying maybe you should get it.
And I was like, I don't even know if I've had it, you know, but I don't want it.
I don't want anything else.
You probably had it when you were young.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I had that.
Yeah, but like you should get it every 10 years.
I'm like, I don't know.
I don't care.
I'll be fine.
I'm OK.
It's real common in other countries.
Like, apparently it's, you say the Congo?
What tetanus is?
Yeah.
It's a bacteria.
I didn't know it was a bacteria.
I thought it was something you got from rusty nails.
You know?
Oh, yeah.
But it makes sense if it's a vaccine that it's protecting you from something
that's kind
of alive.
Like a virus is kind of alive, right?
Like they don't consider it a life form.
But I mean, it seems like it spreads.
It gets in a bunch of different people.
It needs the person as a host.
It seems like it's a kind of life.
I mean.
It's trying to consume you.
It's trying to destroy your body.
And you're fighting it off.
Yeah.
And it hops from you to your kids, to your neighbor, to, you know, it's kind of
alive.
And it kind of needs a person.
If it's propagating, right?
If it's spreading.
Like, what is it?
A virus?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think they consider viruses a life form.
It sounds a lot like a different kind of life form.
Like a parasitic life form.
Yeah.
That's what it sounds like.
Yeah.
Doesn't it?
I mean, I don't think they're saying that it's not.
They're saying that it's bad, right?
A virus?
No, I don't think they consider it a life form.
Like, do they consider viruses a life form?
Put that in perplexity.
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But let's find out if they consider, put that shit in there.
Let's find out if they consider viruses a life form.
Because I don't think they do.
I think it's considered something different.
Dude, I'm so, uh...
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to carry genetic material, reproduce inside host cells, and evolve through
natural selection.
Ooh.
Yeah.
I'm with those folks.
It's a life form.
It's a weird life form.
And here's the crazy thing.
If you think about it that way, then you've got to think about gain-of-function
research.
Gain-of-function research is like taking a grizzly bear and go, that grizzly
bear should be on roids.
And you take a grizzly bear and you jack him up on trend and you give him
testosterone and cocaine and then let him loose in the woods.
That's what gain-of-function research is.
And our government was funding that.
They were funding making more evil life forms.
And that's where COVID-19 came from.
It came from our tax dollars that goes off to this lab where they're working on
making a life form more vicious to people.
What do they want?
It's a fucking weapon.
That's what I think.
But didn't they just use it against us?
Well, I think it got out.
I don't think they tried to use it against us.
That's what I think.
But I think that they 100% are developing these things to dump them on other
countries.
That's a fact.
They've always done that.
But at this point-
They've done tons of research that show that the United States has been
involved in stuff like that forever.
There was actually bioweapons labs that were in Ukraine when the war broke out
that the United States was somehow involved with.
Put that in there.
Put that in there.
What bioweapons labs was the United States involved with in Ukraine?
Or how about this?
Instead of being leading.
Were bioweapons labs discovered in Ukraine?
Baby girl.
Let's put that in first and see what it says.
And then I'm going to ask it.
Were they funded by the United States?
Can I see it?
No bioweapons labs have been discovered in Ukraine, according to the United
Nations, the U.S., Ukraine, and multiple independent experts.
The allegations made by Russia and echoed by some Chinese officials involve
claims that U.S.-funded laboratories involved in military biological activity
were operating in Ukraine.
But these claims have consistently been denied and refuted by international
authorities.
That doesn't mean anything.
Independent investigations and statements by the U.N. disarmament chief
confirmed there is no evidence of a biological weapons program in Ukraine.
Yeah.
Okay.
Are there any stories online about bioweapons labs discovered in Ukraine?
Yeah, it would be this.
The allegations made by Russia.
Yeah, but we don't know that that's true.
So here's the thing.
If the United States is running bio or funding bioweapons labs in Ukraine and
it doesn't become a national news item, you think they're going to come up and
say, you're right, we did it.
No, they're not.
But if you're going to fund bioweapons research in China and a lot of other
places, are there stories about the discovery?
Let's see what it says here.
Stories about the alleged discovery of bioweapons labs in Ukraine have circulated
widely, primarily promoted by Russian officials and state media.
But these claims have not been substantiated by independent sources or
international organizations, nor could they be.
Like, what are you going to do?
Are you going to get in there and fucking rat everybody out in the middle of a
war?
They're going to kill you.
Yeah, they wouldn't let that out.
Chinese foreign ministry and various conspiracy theorists have also amplified
these stories, including claims of 26 bio labs and illegal research discovered
by Russian forces.
I would hate to work at one of those places.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay, here's a problem here, right here.
International news organizations and independent scientists, including the BBC
and experts at King's College London, have reviewed the alleged evidence and
found it lacking, noting that the pathogens and documents cited by Russia are
consistent with public health research, not weapons development.
Okay.
Public health research is one of the ways that they do weapons development.
They do it under the guise of public health research.
That's the whole original premise of gain-of-function research.
We're doing this so that we can figure out how to heal people.
And if these diseases do come our way, we know more about them because we've
been researching them.
Like, okay, so the problem with the BBC saying it, well, we just found out the
BBC is full of shit.
That whole thing with Trump where they took a speech and they edited it and put
apart this more than 50 minutes later in the sentence to end the sentence.
Like, they completely changed what he had to say.
The head of BBC had to resign.
This is a giant scandal.
So I don't trust that.
But I don't know who's telling the truth or who's not because if I was Russia
and I had invaded Ukraine, I would also say we found bioweapons labs.
And maybe there weren't any.
You know, maybe it is a lie.
Well, it's the same with, like, the weapons of mass.
It's all – it's like – it's just so hard to know what's real, you know, at
our level of just, like, being a consumer.
See if you can find online a story so we can pick apart the story that says bioweapons
labs found in Ukraine.
It's tough to know who to – it's just tough to know where to trust things.
So I think you just have to –
But there's a fact that we have had bioweapons research and so has Russia.
This is a story that I did when I did that show, Joe Rogan Questions Everything.
I interviewed a guy who used to be a part of Russia's bioweapons research
program.
And he explained to me how are they creating anthrax and they had all these bioweapons
available.
And I said, do you think that there's a possibility that they were making
various infectious diseases?
He said, absolutely.
That was research that was being done.
And then we went down to Galveston, Texas, and we went to one of those bioresearch
labs that they have in America, one of those giant crazy labs where everybody
wears the hazmat suits and there's tubes that come off their suit.
And they're working with, like, Ebola and all this, like, super – and his
perspective was what he was worried about was not something made in a lab.
What he's worried about is some sort of a natural jump that goes from animals
to people and just wipes us out.
That's – this was – this one doctor told me.
I don't know.
I feel like –
The problem was – I would say that, too, if I was in the middle of gain-of-function
research.
I'd say this stuff is nothing.
Don't worry about this.
What I'd really worry about is chicken pox from chickens.
Yeah.
Is that the big thing now?
I don't know.
Well, dude, in our –
I just don't even know.
It's like – I don't know if they'd want to wipe us all out, though, because
then there's nobody for these, like, dark lords to play with, I feel like.
I don't think they want to wipe us all out, but I think they want to keep us as
controlled as possible, as scared as possible.
Do you see what they did in Canada?
They just shot 300 ostriches for no reason?
Mm-mm.
Fuck.
And Canadians, dude, who also have very good posture.
Ostrichs are probably great posture for a bird, would you say?
Well, they have that crazy neck.
Right.
They have to have that posture.
Otherwise, it'll fall down.
Yeah, but still.
Imagine if your neck was, like, three feet long.
That would be crazy.
Best posture I've ever seen in the world.
Toronto.
Oh, yeah, if you had a fucking three-foot neck, dude.
Yeah, crazy.
Like, everywhere you go, your neck's like a tail.
Bro, have you seen that –
Swagging you around.
Have you seen those giraffes with the little neck?
What?
Pull them bitches up, cut.
Oh, I have seen that.
It's like a cousin of a giraffe.
It looks like an antelope.
It's like a –
Yeah, what are those called?
Like Mexican giraffes or whatever.
No, no, no, no.
They live in Africa.
Or the Yitraffes.
Whoa, that's crazy.
Shorty one of –
Oh, look at that, bitch.
Bro, that's weird.
Wait a minute.
Is that –
That's AI, dog.
That's what it looks like.
That looks fake.
The short-necked giraffe native.
This looks more fake.
Really?
Yeah, that looks way fake.
They're wearing fucking bowler hats from London.
No, that's what they look like.
No, I think that's genuinely what they look like.
That's the one right there.
That's it?
That's weird.
That's kind of how I'm built.
That is a weird giraffe, man.
It says they're from Wakanda.
I don't know if that's real.
Interesting.
Oh, from Wakanda.
So they're real.
Yeah, that's real.
That's definitely real.
Everything is real.
That's the thing you can't even –
You can't tell.
There's no information anymore.
It's all just a blender of fucking who knows.
Anything you put into TikTok, the next story, it's merged your last researches
into a new
Sora is making new things and it looks so real.
It's just like – I don't even know if information even – it's just –
everything feels so
bizarre, you know?
Don't you feel like that?
Uh-huh.
And it's getting weirder.
It's getting weirder and harder to tell what's true.
By the month, it's getting weirder.
Yeah, by the month.
And fast.
Yeah.
It's getting very strange.
So you've got to lock in.
I'm trying to think of the things that just even still feel real to me
sometimes, you
know?
I think this is a real important time to minimize the amount of time you're
online.
Yeah.
This is – as things get squirrelier and squirrelier, check in every now and
then but
don't allow yourself to be looking at that goddamn thing all day.
Yeah.
Because that's part of what's wrong with us is we're staring at these goddamn
things all
day and they're just hypnotizing us with bullshit.
Just at the end of the day, you're confused, aimless.
You go to sleep.
You feel depressed.
You wake up in the morning.
You get up in the middle of the night to piss.
You're like, what is life?
Yeah.
You go back to bed.
You're like, what am I doing?
Yeah.
Those things do that.
You take away those things and life is pretty normal.
Yeah.
They are amplifiers of anxiety.
Oh, that's for sure.
For sure.
Well, it's like they had that – like a lot of these shooters, like people
that have
like – you know, these young guys who become – what's it called when you
see stuff
online and it makes you more –
Radicalized.
Radicalized, right?
How are some of these companies not legally liable?
Like if you go to a restaurant, right?
Right.
And somebody poisoned you, you could take something up with that restaurant.
They poisoned a bunch of people who were able to sue the restaurant and have
some recourse
against that restaurant, the food establishment.
But these entities, like these social media places, like if they radicalize
someone and
they go shoot somebody or something, there's no like accountability for the
company.
It doesn't – you know what I'm saying?
Well, the company is not radicalizing people and I think it's a real danger
what you're
saying because you know what – what you're saying is you're opening the door
to censorship.
You're opening the door to the government saying we're here to protect you so
you can't
talk about certain things because these things can radicalize you because
anybody's definition
of what radicalizes people is – it's very variable, right?
Like during COVID, I could have been considered someone who radicalizes people
against taking
a COVID vaccine.
I could have been seen as a science denier and a dangerous person that has to
be silenced.
You have to remove them from public discourse.
So what you're saying by like people getting radicalized, who?
That's the problem.
Like who's getting radicalized and who's doing it?
And what is the real reason why you're getting radicalized?
Well, because you don't know who the fuck you are.
So you could be getting radicalized for the better or for the worse too.
For sure.
So you're just really getting educated, really.
Look, there's people that get radicalized towards, you know, radical ideas of
fitness
and will and discipline.
That's a good point.
Because, you know, paying attention to Jocko every morning.
There's – you can get – what is radicalized?
You could be a radical – you could be into radical kindness.
You know, you get radicalized to just be kind to people.
Yeah.
It's all dependent upon what are you talking about and who's doing it.
So why would the social media platform be in trouble for doing nothing other
than giving
people a voice?
But the algorithm – is there an algorithm that at a certain point –
That's what gets weird.
So the algorithm gets weird.
So that's more what I mean then.
Is the algorithm – isn't there some liability to an algorithm like at a
certain –
No, but here's the problem.
The algorithm amplifies what you like.
So you have to decide what you're looking at.
Right.
You have to have some personal responsibility because most of my algorithm,
particularly
like on YouTube, is all just stuff I like.
It's all fun stuff.
It's all interesting.
It's all ancient history stuff, you know, cool cars that people are building.
That's it.
That's most of it.
Fights, pool matches, professional pool matches, a lot of Muay Thai.
It's all stuff I'm into.
It's nothing is – so, like, why is your algorithm fucked up?
Because that's the stuff you're clicking on all the time.
And a lot of things – I don't know if you could do it on Instagram.
Can you do it like I don't like posts like this where you right-click on things?
Yeah, I think you can.
I know you could do it on Google News Feed.
You're not an adult.
Like, if it's a young person, is there any more – should there be anything
– like,
I agree.
There is a – it's always personal responsibility.
And I think we're probably in a space where more than ever, personal
responsibility, it's
going to start to thin the herd because it's like who can, you know, have, like,
control
over their own wherewithal, you know, and what they absorb.
Well, we have to learn from other people's mistakes, right?
And we kind of are better at that than – like, okay, we're better at that as
a society
than, say, when societies – with alcohol, for instance, than a society where
alcohol gets
introduced into that society where they don't have a history of alcohol.
Generally speaking, that destroys civilizations.
You mean if a place does – like when they gave alcohol to those people?
Like, the Native Americans.
It's a perfect example.
Native Americans had no history of alcohol use.
United States troops came through, did two things.
One, killed 90% of them with disease.
So 90% of the Native Americans died from disease because they were exposed to
smallpox and all
sorts of horrible shit that the Europeans carried over with them.
Oh, my God.
So 90% of them died from that.
And then they got pushed into reservations.
They got like – they got slaughtered by people with guns and all – they
lost all
their land and then also they get introduced to alcohol.
So both – everything gets super depressing and you get introduced to alcohol
and that is
devastating to a society.
And to this day, reservations have very high rates of alcohol and drug abuse,
very high rates
on Native American reservations.
But if you –
They're really drinking over there.
But if you look at us, like regular people – like we were talking about
alcohol today, right?
We were talking about I don't – I barely drink anymore.
I'll have a drink every now and then and I had one recently.
But that's it.
Like you can – I know how to do that.
I come from a culture of people who drank.
It's common.
You know, people drink wine with dinner.
It's calm.
It's normal.
You can figure out how to regulate it for the most part.
But there's people who won't, right?
But it's not as bad as when there's – no one knows what to do because you've
never
had it before.
And then once you get it, you're fucked.
That's the problem also with censorship.
That's the problem with like social media.
Like we're the first people to get it.
So we're like basically the Native Americans of social media.
Like we're getting it for the first time and it's wrecking our society.
Not to the same level that it did to Native Americans because it also carries a
lot of
positives.
It does let you distribute information.
You learn about things.
There's a lot of positives that come with social media.
But also, we're the first people that don't know how to handle it.
The grandchildren and great-grandchildren of us, they will have a much better
understanding
of what not to do and what to do.
Oh, I have an uncle who is an addict.
He's a Twitter addict.
Yeah.
He's a real problem.
All he does is yell about politics.
He's on his phone 16 hours a day.
He doesn't pay attention to his life.
He's losing his job because he's a Twitter addict.
There's people like that.
Just like there's people that are drug addicts.
But these are the first ones.
Got it.
I hadn't thought about it like that.
Yeah, we got to learn how to regulate.
And I think people are going to learn like a lot of kids are using apps now
that limit the
amount of time that they're on their social media for like one hour a day.
Are they?
You think a lot of these kids, I feel like they're just –
Kids that want a better life.
Yes.
Kids that recognize that you can waste time.
And when you waste time over long – like junior high school, into high school,
you really
start realizing it.
And you see the difference between people who don't waste time and really get
after it
and get things done.
And then you see the people that are falling by the wayside.
And that's a pattern that establishes – when you're a teenager, pretty much
for the
whole rest of your life, you know?
I knew people that were kind of ne'er-do-wells in high school that really never
got into
anything and they never tried hard at anything.
And they stayed like that.
Yeah.
I think it's hard to make a really – it's hard to make a change in your life,
you know?
Very hard.
Very hard to make a change in how you see life.
Yeah.
You know?
And then you're not going to change your life unless you change the way you see
life.
Yeah.
Do you – let me think about something else.
Sorry.
My brain sometimes gets hard to, like, keep going.
How were the fights, man?
Did you have fun?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's always fun.
Madison Square Garden is crazy.
There's a few buildings in this world that have, like, a tangible feel when you're
in them.
Like, woo, this is the garden.
Bro, I've been there a ton of times.
I perform there.
It doesn't matter.
Every time I go there, when I walk into that building, I'm like, woo, we're at
the fucking garden.
Yeah.
You've got to be on your P's and Q's, son.
You've got to be ready to go.
That's awesome.
This is the garden.
I think fighters feel it, too.
Oh, I'm sure.
I think they get extra amped to fight in the garden.
Yeah.
Dustin said that he went to watch the fights.
Was there a lot of – was Annick there?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't get to watch.
Yeah.
Annick, DC, and me.
Let's go.
And Megan was there, too.
Megan O'Leary.
Megan O'Leary?
Yep.
Oh, she's the best.
She's the best.
She's such a good person.
How great is she?
Her and her husband.
They're both fucking salt of the earth.
The best.
The best.
Their whole – I mean, I will say this.
They have one of the best staffs of any sporting group I've ever been around in
my life.
For sure.
Yeah, the UFC staff is very much like a family.
Amber, Nicole, that whole group.
We all know each other so well.
We've hung out together so long.
Everybody's all hugging everybody backstage.
It's a beautiful place to work.
It's so much fun.
And Bruce is doing his stretches.
There's so many little things going on.
Yeah.
And you just get to see them all happen.
And it's always the same people, you know?
Mm-hmm.
And –
Yeah, we travel around the world together.
Well, I don't anymore.
Yeah, it's crazy.
But I used to travel with those guys around the world.
And, you know, they'll go from here, and now they're going to Cotter this
weekend.
I was going to go.
Were you really?
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
That's a long-ass flight, son.
I know.
I went over there.
If you go, they're going to make you put on the outfit?
I put on the outfit already once.
Did you like it?
Yeah.
Were you thinking maybe I could live here if I get in trouble?
I thought they were going to take my life, and I don't know if they'd come back.
Not them, but you just never know in the Middle East what's going on, you know?
Yeah.
What does that outfit mean?
It's called a throbe.
I think you can see a picture of me in it.
Yeah, I've seen it.
They used it to attack you for stuff online.
Oh, yeah.
They said you're in the pocket of those people.
Type shit.
Boy, look at that shit.
Bro, it looks good.
I like how theirs has a collar.
Yeah.
It's a little more modern.
I think you have to put the head thing on, like if you're listening to music or
whatever.
It'd be a real problem if you're grappling with that thing, though.
Limit your hip movement.
People can control you a little bit better.
Well, hopefully the person you're grappling with is also wearing it.
That's true, but you're slowing down the game.
Yeah, you're right.
A hell of a gi.
It's a long.
You're wearing a bathrobe.
You're not even wearing a gi.
You're wearing an ankle-length bathrobe.
Yeah, I was going to go.
I think that's going to get in the way.
I was going to go.
I was kind of, but yeah.
Did you like going over there?
What was your experience?
Yeah, man.
I liked it.
I mean, obviously they treat you a little bit different because, you know.
You're not gay?
Yeah.
That.
Thank you for saying that.
And just so we got that out there.
And I am looking for love.
I did meet somebody that I thought was kind of cool, but who knows, you know.
How do Jewish people feel like going over there?
I'm sure that they're probably, I mean, I feel like they're all kind of in cahoots
over there.
You don't really know what's going on.
Qatar is a Muslim country.
Right.
But that's what I'm saying.
Like, if I was a Jew and I was traveling around the world right now, I'd be
like, brr.
Do I stop in here?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe I want to fly into Sweden instead, you know.
I guess.
I don't know.
Did Qatar, did they, did any of those countries help with Palestine?
I don't know.
It was hard to know what was going on.
Well, I think there was talk of, do you say Qatar or Qatar?
You're right.
Qatar.
Yeah.
Qatar.
Qatar.
There was talk in the beginning of them helping to rebuild, you know, but this
was like when
Trump said the wildest shit of all time, that we're going to take over and we're
going
to, we're going to turn it into the, what did he say?
The Mediterranean of the Middle East.
What the fuck are you saying?
That was one of those things that maybe made people go, wait, is he really
crazy?
What's going on?
How are we going to take over?
How are you going to take it?
It's like when he was talking about Greenland, like maybe we're going to take
Greenland.
Like, hey, what, why do they want Greenland?
Let's ask perplexity.
Why is he, ask perplexity, why is the United States interested in acquiring
Greenland?
You think there's something up there?
You know what I would think?
What?
Let's imagine a world where the climate does radically shift, right?
And by the way, I think human beings play a part of it.
I've had a lot of these conversations with people and I saw a video that was
criticizing
something today, saying how, you know, talking about how much money there is in
climate change
and pushing the climate change narrative.
And then that didn't compare to the amount of money that's in the fossil fuel,
promoting
fossil fuels.
That is 100% true, but it doesn't discount the fact that there's a shit ton of
money to
be made from green energy.
That's why they're promoting it.
You really can't stop fossil fuel.
That's the inside wink.
Everything is made with oil.
Everything.
Your pharmaceuticals, all of your electronics, plastics, tires, everything is
made with you.
You ain't stopping oil.
However, this idea of reducing carbon footprint, there 100% is money in that.
And there's money in the whole green energy narrative.
There's money.
This is why Bill Gates recently abandoned saying he totally backtracked on what
he was saying.
Oh, climate change?
Yeah, he totally backtracked on it because people were starting to investigate
and looking
at, why are you saying this?
And are you making money off of this?
Do you have like certain stocks that would rise and where you'd make an
extraordinary amount
of money if you promoted these certain narratives publicly?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's part of what's going on.
However, there was giant solar activity this week.
And this is what I'm talking about.
In Greenland?
Yes.
No, in America.
Giant solar activity where people were seeing the northern lights in Texas.
Yes.
In fucking Texas.
Okay.
And a friend of mine who is, well, Brett Weinstein, I'm pretty sure I could say
he was
him.
It's not a secret.
Was telling me like, this is like a significant amount of solar activity, kind
of unprecedented
and very dangerous.
And if it gets bigger than a certain wave, which they can't really predict,
like these
solar flares, they just, they don't have a clock on the sun.
Like, oh, on November 17th, it'll be 82 degrees.
No, it does whatever the fuck it wants.
And sometimes it does mass ejections, man.
And these huge bursts.
Just spraying out.
And these huge bursts can wipe out satellites, wipe out telecommunication, wipe
it out, and
change the fucking temperature of the earth.
Dude, what the fuck?
I've got enough shit going on.
Go back to that Greenland thing, please, because we didn't get a chance to read
it.
Dude.
United States is interested in acquiring Greenland for a combination of
strategic, economic,
and security reasons.
Greenland's geographic location makes it a critical asset for U.S. defense,
especially
for monitoring activities in the Arctic and North Atlantic, as well as for
tracking potential
Russian military movements and securing early warning capabilities for missile
threats.
That makes sense.
You know what also makes sense?
If it gets green because the earth temperature changes.
Because you're investing ahead of time.
Greenland maybe used to be green.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I mean, I would bet at some point it did.
I think they discovered Greenland, like, officially.
Yeah.
In, like, I want to say the 1800s, they listed Greenland as a continent.
But there's maps of Greenland, like, detailed maps of Greenland from, like, the
1500s.
Do you think that they can – do you think that it's controllable or they
could start to
thaw it out whoever owns it all?
It's uncontrollable.
No.
So that's not controllable.
I think this is the scariest thing about the temperature of earth that we need
to come
to grips with.
It is not static.
It changes.
And it changes all the time.
And sometimes it changes in horrific ways where it turns into a fucking ice age.
And if that happens, we all have to move to the equator.
And that's what happens.
That's what happens in human history.
That's why you see these, like, super advanced civilizations that came out of
South America.
Like, well, they were probably the only people that were able to live, like,
normally during
the ice age.
During the ice age, like, if you're in North America, you're a fucking caveman.
You're covered in animal furs.
You know, you're trudging through the snow.
You're hiding.
You're hiding.
Things are hunting you.
If you're living in the Amazon jungle during that same time, man, you're
probably in,
like, think of the Aztecs.
You know, the Aztecs-
How tall were the Aztecs overall?
Here's the thing about the Aztecs.
Aztec ruins is what I was going to get to.
They found them that way.
The Aztecs that lived there, they didn't build them.
They found them that way.
They uncovered them in the jungle.
The ruins?
They're a part of a civilization that's even older than them.
So the Aztecs found that place.
They didn't build it.
They built some things.
Right.
But they found those things there.
So their great, great ancestors were probably the ones who built it initially.
And if you think about the Ice Age, if there's any advanced civilizations, it's
going to be
in the places that aren't frozen, you know?
And all North America.
Dude, half of North America was under at least a mile of ice.
Hold on, let me think about it.
Half of North America was under at least one mile of ice?
Yeah, you know how it's flat in like a lot of Wisconsin?
Wisconsin has areas called the Driftless Areas.
And that's the areas where these giant glaciers didn't just plow over the earth.
So they have hills and mountains and shit.
Everything else is just flat.
That flat shit, that's from two miles of motherfucking ice just erasing
anything that was there before it.
It's like a bulldozer.
So if there was a civilization that lived on earth up there 20,000 years ago,
bitch, you ain't finding nothing.
You ain't getting shit.
You ain't finding nothing.
You ain't getting shit.
And they were all down in South America.
That's what I think.
That's why that happened.
That's why they had such advanced civilizations.
And so many artifacts and stuff because that's where it was possible.
All kinds of weird shit that they don't understand.
So what happens?
These cities that were in the Amazon jungle that they're discovering now.
But what happens, Joe?
Say it starts to, like things are, you know, it starts to devolve even more.
What happens?
Where do we meet up?
I know we've talked about this before.
I think we said Denver or whatever.
I think Denver's lost.
I think Denver's lost.
Okay, so we need to have a strategy.
They're just there bringing wolves back to Denver, these dumbasses.
Well, I wouldn't mind a wolf or two, but I'm just saying, what do we do, man?
That's what I'm saying.
Like, if it gets weird, we have to have some plan.
It's already getting weird, right?
It's getting real weird.
Yeah.
It's getting weird, but the reality of what I was getting to is you can't
control the Earth's temperature.
You can't control the Earth's future because there's a bunch of factors.
Even if you say, okay, let's all agree on something first.
Let's agree that human beings have a detrimental effect on Earth.
We can all agree on that.
Let's agree that human beings overfish the ocean.
Let's all agree on that.
Let's all agree that we pollute the air, we pollute the oceans, we pollute the
rivers.
All that is terrible.
All that should be fixed.
Let's all agree on that.
Once we agree on that, that's not the greatest threat to human life.
The greatest threat to human life is asteroid impacts.
Well, nuclear war, for sure, if we do that to each other.
That's number one.
But after that, it's asteroid impacts.
And asteroid impacts, you can't do a fucking thing about them.
You can do something.
Uh-uh.
No, they're not ready yet.
They can't do anything yet.
You couldn't do something.
You could hide behind something.
You could...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You could do something.
No, no, no.
You could wear something.
You could wear something.
Okay, you're being silly.
No, you don't think you could...
You know that three-eye atlas, that one that just passed through?
It's the size of Manhattan, and it's made out of metal.
It's a giant chunk of nickel that's the size of Manhattan.
Okay.
And it's billions of years old, and it's going...
How many thousands of miles an hour was it going?
Put that into proplexity.
Where would you be, then?
How fast was three-eye atlas?
It doesn't matter where you are.
Everything's dead.
The whole planet's dead.
Okay, because what happens?
It hits it.
You have roaches, some fucking underground mammals that survive.
But you're saying it hits the planet, and then what happens?
That's what I'm asking.
Everybody dies.
No.
It's miles deep into Earth in the first second.
Miles deep.
But does it, like, impact...
Like, does Earth, like, shift over 20 feet?
Like, what happens?
It's just a massive explosion.
Oh, so you're saying there's an explosion.
This...
Not just an explosion, but it creates nuclear winter.
Like, the entire Earth is covered in volcanic ash.
Like, you're fucked.
Everything's dead.
Like, most of the Earth is dead.
Okay.
So, uh...
Maybe I'm not understanding it, Paul.
It seems like it.
It's going approximately 155,000 miles an hour.
Fuck!
You didn't say that.
This makes the fastest interstellar object yet observed, with its velocity
accelerating as
it approaches the sun, and then gradually slowing as it moves away.
So, it's 250,000 kilometers per hour.
Earlier measurements, as it entered the solar system, recorded speeds of 130,000
to 140,000
miles an hour.
Dang, shoddy bay.
So, it's the size of Manhattan.
It's made out of nickel.
Okay, let's Google this.
What is the observed mass of this object?
How big is it?
What is the observed mass of 3I Atlas?
Observed mass of 3...
Okay, let us see what it says.
Observed...
Look how quick it did that.
Just Google all those articles.
The observed mass is estimated to be over 33 billion tons.
Okay, hold on.
Let me think about how much that is real quick.
It's a lot.
33 billion tons.
How much is one ton?
2,000 pounds.
Okay.
What else is 33 billion tons?
That's a great question, dude.
Thank you.
Very good question, Jamie.
Look at what research is.
Estimated mass of 3I Atlas, 33 billion tons, roughly equivalent to the mass of
Manhattan
Island, which is about 3.1 miles across.
Similar in size to the comet's estimated nucleus diameter.
This means the comet's mass is roughly comparable to a large city in solid
matter terms.
Amen.
33 billion tons.
Well, I'm going through.
Three to five orders of magnitude heavier than previous interstellar objects,
like Uwamu-Mamu.
Like that.
500...
What?
Far smaller than the heaviest known comets in our solar system.
Look at this one.
One C-2014, whatever, whatever, which weighs around 500 trillion tons with a
diameter of
about 128 kilometers.
80 miles.
I didn't think that it was...
Yeah, I think I had a different concept of it.
Yeah, so...
I had something small.
I had something like that.
Something that's...
No, those hit all the time.
Things like that hit all the time.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking about.
And one of the best places to find them is Antarctica, because Antarctica's all
white, so they go out
there and they see things on the ground that are meteors.
Is it true they won't let us up there, or is that true?
That's a myth.
No, there's places where you're not supposed to fly, but there's a bunch of
reasons for
that.
One of them, I'm sure they're probably doing military research up there, but
also...
So they have restricted airspace.
But also, it's really dangerous.
And if you crash, they won't have to rescue you.
Like, there's nothing up there.
Like, you will die, you know?
Most likely.
And they don't want to have to try to die going to get you.
It's sketchy as fuck going up there.
Fuck yeah, it is, dude.
I couldn't even imagine it.
I mean, I'm trying to think.
We used to go skiing or whatever, like in Iowa somewhere, or in...
I think it was in Iowa.
In the winter, they have like a place called Sundown, I think it was.
It's fucking freezing.
Like, we went to Whistler, Canada one time to go skiing.
Freezing cold.
I can't even imagine being at the Antarctica.
How cold does it get?
Oh, it's cold as fuck.
It's not just cold.
There's no one there.
Like, they do these...
You can't even tell anybody it's cold because there's nobody even there.
You just...
I wonder what they're studying up there.
They have scientific communities up there.
They have like groups of scientists that live up there year-round.
That's gotta be weird.
Oh, it's gotta be hell.
And do they get to bring their wives and children up there?
Oh, did you ever see that John Carpenter movie?
The Thing?
Bro.
You never saw that movie?
Kirk Douglas?
I mean, not Kirk Douglas.
Michael Douglas?
God damn it.
Kurt Russell.
Kurt Russell.
Yeah, Kurt Russell.
It was awesome.
Great.
Dude, the movie's incredible.
I haven't seen that.
Fun, fun horror movie from like...
I guess it was probably like the 80s.
The Thing.
Yeah.
That Thing.
Remember that song?
There's a comic in that movie.
T.K.
Carter.
Really?
A dude who used to perform at the store.
Yeah.
He was at the store and then he started getting big movies.
And he was in The Thing.
That's wild.
Yeah, I remember him.
I remember that dude.
I used to hang out with him.
That's cool.
Yeah, and The Thing was like at the time like one of the craziest special
effects ever.
It looks kind of corny now.
Yeah.
Because it's goofy looking.
But maybe they'll remake it or something.
Sometimes they do that.
But it was about them finding like some spaceship in Antarctica, I believe it
was.
I think it was Antarctica.
I think right away.
Was that where it took place?
Yeah.
I think people want us to find something.
I think people are looking for stuff right now.
People are trying to look for something to give things a little bit more
meaning to them,
you know?
That's also part of the confusion is everybody's telling you constantly that
aliens are real.
You're hearing it constantly.
And no one's even flinching.
Well, if they are real, they don't give a fuck about us.
That's what I'm telling you.
Why do you think that?
You've been listening to Neil deGrasse Tyson?
No, not a chance.
And B, but B, dude, they're not coming here and visiting, dude.
They are.
I think they are.
Here's what I think about it.
I believe that Earth used to be this fun place.
Aliens would come and visit.
It's almost like it's this cool tourist park or whatever.
And aliens would bring their kids here when they had like holidays or whatever,
right?
And now it's like that old place you don't take your kids to anymore.
It's like an old theme park that's kind of going by the wayside.
And now I think aliens are taking their kids.
They're traveling other places on their vacations.
You know what I'm talking about?
Where do you think they're going?
Places we don't know because we're still fucking here.
Gavatar.
Huh?
Pandora.
Yeah, they're going to dope-ass places.
Yeah.
Like if they pull up here and their kids are like, you took us to fucking Earth.
This place sucks dick, mom.
They land in India.
They see a river that's clogged up with water bottles.
Like, what the fuck is this shit?
Yeah.
People washing their hair in fucking booty water or whatever.
Like, get us out of here.
Get us out of here.
This isn't even cool.
Yeah.
No.
This place sucks.
Yeah.
You know what's cool in India?
The old stuff.
So that's what I do believe, though.
There's a temple in India that is one of the most confusing places I've ever
seen where people
describe its mass and like how it's made.
It was carved out of a mountain.
The whole temple was entirely carved out of a mountain.
It wasn't built.
They removed the mountain and created this insane, like very symmetrical,
incredibly
intricate temple.
It doesn't show any chisel marks on it.
It's like hundreds of millions of tons of rocks have been removed.
That thing.
Bro, have you ever seen that?
No, I have not seen that.
Dude, I watched a whole YouTube documentary on it last night.
What is it called again?
Khaleesa Temple.
Khaleesa Temple.
Dude, it's fucking bananas.
So they think it was made.
It says 6,000 years ago.
So it's chiseled out of rock.
Eighth century is what I was just reading before.
Yeah, I thought it was like much more recent.
That's tough.
It's like they think it's 2,000 years old, right?
Is that what they think it is?
How old do they think?
Okay, 756 to 777 current era.
So that's like the year 773.
So it's even less than 2,000 years old.
Yeah.
So they think.
I don't know how they know this.
But whatever they know, whoever fucking made it.
How?
Whoever 2,000 years ago made this.
Fucking how?
See if you can, Jamie, see if you can find a video on it where they describe it
or they go through it.
Dude, it's nuts.
The video I was watching last night on YouTube, my jaw was open.
I was like, this is crazy.
Wow.
It's so detailed.
And when you think about just the sheer effort of making this.
And if one person fucks this up, one person fucks this up, this whole project's
ruined because you're not building it.
You're carving it out of the mountain.
You can't recarve.
And they did it perfectly.
It's nuts, man.
It's really, truly nuts.
You got to plan ahead with that.
Yeah, you think?
Yeah.
But how did they do it so well?
I mean, how is it so beautiful?
How is it so symmetrical?
How did they?
Who fucking asked for this to be built?
How long did it take?
This is nuts, man.
Fuck.
This whole thing is.
It's so impressive.
It's so impressive.
Almost more impressive than some of the stuff from ancient Egypt.
Yeah.
Because it's all one piece of stone.
The whole thing.
Whoever these people were, man.
I believe you.
I wish they wrote books.
I wish they wrote books on how they did this.
And if they have the books, let them out.
Look at these pillars, man.
Look at this whole thing.
It's all carved out of the mountain.
It's bananas.
Like, it's so special.
Oh, yeah.
That's nice.
Because I don't...
I mean, I'm barely grasping it.
I'm trying to put myself in a position of someone who's there physically and
looking at this world.
I'm sure I would be blown away.
I'm sure you don't have enough time in a month to really go over this place and
really get a feel for it.
Because it's so insane.
Someone was able to do that that long ago.
Well, the people used to have to, like, I think the amount of time and
attention you would put into things, you didn't have a lot of other things
taking your attention probably.
Also, I think things have happened, and we forgot about those things.
And I think things like asteroid impacts, things like super volcanoes, these
ice ages, things have happened and destroyed civilization, and we've forgotten
a lot of it, and we're relearning it, and we're refiguring it out now.
That's what I think.
That's how you find stuff like that.
Like, that one doesn't even make sense.
Like, and also, if you make that, who just left it there?
Why'd you guys move?
Where'd you go?
Where'd you go where you just left this there?
That's nuts.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of a while.
That's the Aztecs, too.
There's a bunch of these structures that people just left, or they all got
diseases.
Or wiped out.
Yeah, I'm sure they probably got wiped out, because even if everybody leaves,
and if there's a nice place, right, everybody leaves, somebody would, some
people would stay.
Like, no, we're just going to stay.
No, they got wiped out.
That's how they're not there.
Something would happen.
And probably, like you're saying, by weather or something big, you know?
Maybe weather, but I think a lot of it is people traveling with a new disease.
I think that killed people in giant chunks all throughout history.
That's what they think happened to the Mayans.
That's what also they think happened to the people that lived in the Amazon.
These, like, the city of Z, the lost city of Z.
Did you ever see that movie?
Yeah.
With George, uh...
Percy Richards, is that what the guy's name was?
Percy Fawcett.
Percy Fawcett.
Percy Fawcett.
So Percy Fawcett was this explorer that went down there.
And so what happened was a group of people had said they went down to the
Amazon and they found these golden cities.
Oh, yeah.
These spectacular civilizations.
God, I would like that.
And they went back to Europe and told everybody.
Yeah.
And then a hundred years later, they returned to try to find these things.
At least a hundred.
It might have been longer, right?
All the shit was gone.
Everything was gone.
Why?
Because those first guys brought over the cooties.
Yeah.
They brought over diseases.
They brought over diseases and they killed everybody.
And they didn't even...
How were they spreading the diseases, though, you think?
Just being around them, man.
Ugh.
Like, we...
Europeans.
I shouldn't say we.
And nobody noticed that they had something wrong with them?
They were used to it, man.
They were used to being sick.
They were used to those diseases.
You know, they had developed immunity over generations.
But if you show up at my house with a disease, right?
Like, I'm going to maybe see that something could be wrong with you, you think?
Or you think it's just hidden in your path?
They probably had no fear of it.
They probably had no fear of it because they had never encountered it before.
Encountered it before.
But, you know, they do believe it's possible that the Native Americans gave the
Europeans syphilis.
Type shift.
Yeah.
Type shift.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's what they say.
And I said type shift.
That's what kids say sometimes.
Yeah.
When my daughter doesn't want to swear, she says type shift.
She does?
Oh, I like that.
That's cool.
How are your daughters doing?
Good?
They're great, man.
They're awesome.
My youngest one loves you.
Aw, I missed getting that.
Did they go to the fight, too?
No.
They're going to go to a future one, though.
I'll let you know.
Let me know.
They like hanging out with you.
They said it's so fun.
They're fun, dude.
They're so funny.
It's just been funny because I just see them incrementally over the years to
get to see
them grow up and just like...
When did we...
I was just thinking this.
When did we do our first podcast together?
Do you remember?
I don't know.
Was it like 10 years ago?
No way.
Yeah.
Eight?
I would have been...
Let's see.
I'll look it up.
It's been a while.
Yeah, man.
I can't believe that we've been...
And you back then...
It's all been going on this long.
Yeah.
I would have never imagined that you would go down this road and be really good
at it,
man.
Like, you're real sincere with people.
You ask real good questions.
You know, you're very present.
You know, like, you're funny, but you're also trying to really understand what
they're saying.
That's a delicate balance, you know, of be silly and be funny, but also, like,
pay
respect to whatever they're trying to say and try to figure out where they're
coming from,
you know?
Yeah.
Well, thanks, dude.
Yeah.
I try to be...
I think there's been a couple times where it's like...
Yeah, I try to be...
I don't really know what I'm...
You know, like, I don't not know what I'm doing.
I mean, I work hard, right?
Like, I work hard.
You figure it out as you go along, right?
Yeah.
And I'm still kind of figuring it out, you know?
I don't know sometimes, like, what, like, my purpose is in it or...
You don't have to have a purpose.
You don't think?
Maybe that's a trap, huh?
Yeah.
It's a trap.
But I do care.
I think you should have a direction.
I do notice I meet a lot of people and I care about what's going on in their
lives.
Yeah, that's a direction.
That's good.
Yeah.
That's better.
That makes me feel...
That makes me feel not important to me, but of some value, right?
Yeah.
Like, even last week when we had Gary Sinison, he was talking about his son,
like, his son passed
away of cancer, like, within the past year.
And just talking about his son, right?
Like, it was just nice.
You know, it was nice for us to sit there together and just talk about his son,
right?
Like, stuff like that, like, I think it just makes me feel like, I don't know,
that kind
of stuff means something to me.
So do you feel like in your regular life you're not connected enough to people
that are talking
to you like that?
Is that it?
Man, that's kind of interesting.
I think I do sometimes have a problem with connection sometimes, you know?
So you somehow or another can be more connected publicly than you can be
privately?
Dude, is that so weird you say that?
I've thought about that before.
Well, I thought about that because of my friendship with you.
Because, like, sometimes you tell me things on air that you don't tell me
things in private.
And sometimes in private, you know, look, I love you very much.
And I always try to reach out.
Because the last thing you want is a friend that maybe is going through some
shit and not
doing well.
And maybe you could have reached out and you didn't.
Yeah, for sure.
Feeling, it's a terrible feeling.
Yeah.
You know, that you could have helped your friend and you didn't help your
friend.
You know, but you are, you have a hard time expressing yourself in person
sometimes.
You know, like sometimes I'd be asking, like, what's, well, tell me what's up.
Tell me what's bothering you.
You know, tell me, like, how do you feel?
What'd you do?
And there's like a thing where I was almost like a blockade where you'd rather
just like
ignore it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But then when you're talking publicly, you like to address everything, which I
find very
interesting.
It's like you almost feel more comfortable exposing various parts of things
that you don't like
about life or your life or what's bothering you about life.
Publicly, you're better off, you're better at doing that than you are privately
with your
friends.
I think if there's this thing inside of me, sometimes I feel like people don't
trust me
one-on-one.
They don't trust you?
Or there's some trust thing.
Maybe it's not me.
I don't know.
I'm trying to think about-
You don't trust them, maybe?
No, I don't know.
I'm trying to think of, as we're talking about this, I'm trying to like feel it
at the same
time and see what I'm feeling about it, you know?
Right.
Because it's interesting to me because I love thinking about this kind of stuff,
you know,
like, and trying to figure out why I operate or why we operate certain ways,
you know?
Right.
Yeah, I think sometimes, I don't know, it's hard for me to maybe say what's
going on sometimes.
Sometimes I don't know what's going on, you know?
Sometimes I like just, yeah, if I talk with somebody and then some of the
biggest conversations
I have are on podcasting now.
It's like, you know, that's when I'll talk the most.
And so I'll sit there and have moments that are like, that's kind of my biggest
conversations.
Well, it's kind of the only time you have real conversations because every
other time you
have conversations, there's usually multiple people around and everyone's
checking their
phone, you know?
And everyone's going in and out of the room and everyone's going to take a leak,
like
green room conversations.
They're real.
It's kind of almost like a podcast in and of itself, right?
But yeah, it's fun.
But there's also people showing each other funny memes and, you know, we're all
watching
videos, fucked up things that happened.
Yeah.
Listening to music, joking around.
That's a little bit more of a bigger atmosphere.
Right.
But, but the point is, it's like, you don't have these kinds of conversations
outside a
podcast.
The only time you or I have these kinds of conversations is right in front of
each other
where we agree we're going to just sit and talk for like three fucking hours
with no interruptions.
Yeah.
It's kind of weird, but I feel like in that form you get relaxed and in that
form you talk
about yourself.
Like, honestly, you're introspective and open about it, which I find very
fascinating that
you don't do that privately.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's funny.
It is kind of interesting.
I don't know why either.
I think maybe there's something where like, I thought like, um, like I have,
like, um, I have
to, there's something inside of me that has to be of value or something.
I don't know.
I'm trying to figure out.
Like, you don't want to be a burden maybe, like you don't want to annoy people
talking
about your problems.
So here's the thing.
Like when you started talking about like having issues in life, I was shocked
because I've
thought about all the times that I'm with you.
Like, Theo's always the life of the party.
We're always having fun.
I don't get it.
Like, how could he possibly be not doing well?
That don't even make sense to me.
Yeah.
I was like, everybody loves him.
He's so fun to be around.
You know, like, why would you not feel good?
That don't make sense.
You know?
So then I had to listen to you talk like in podcasts and I was like, oh, okay.
Well, there's some ways that he talks publicly that you don't necessarily talk
a lot privately.
So like your friends sometimes don't even know if things aren't going so well.
Well, I think for some reason, whenever I started podcasting, I started to kind
of have a conversation
with myself for like sometimes the first time in my life, maybe where I was
like having
like some dialogue with myself, you know?
Because you did a lot of them solo too, right?
Yeah.
Probably the first hundred or something were solo or something pretty much.
Yeah.
And so I think.
So then you're, you're forcing yourself to do a totally new thing, which is to
not just
like go on momentum, but to actually think about something for like at least an
hour where
you're talking and just thinking about stuff.
Yeah.
And that was probably the most fun I ever had in some ways, I think.
And also it was like, it was like a learning.
And then now like people can call in our show and they'll leave voicemails.
So sometimes we'll listen to those and talk about that kind of stuff.
And that's something I want to get more into because that's something that I
like really
care about, you know?
But yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why some ways are easier for me than others.
I have thought about that before though, you know?
Yeah.
I have thought about that.
It's the same reason, like even being like in a relationship.
I remember like, like when I was, when I was like, like would get in a
relationship with
a, with a, with a woman, it was so hard for me to like, look at them or like to
be super
close.
Like that was super hard, but it was easy for me to have a microphone and talk
to people
in a group.
You know, like there's some things that are just like, like I just feel like a
lot of
like pressure.
I feel like when I was in like that kind of situation, like, um, I think there
was something
about it.
Like if somebody, uh, I don't know.
I think there was always a part of me, like when I was young, like if I looked,
if I looked
somebody in the eyes or something, like they weren't going to, they weren't
going to believe
me.
Really?
Does that make any sense at all?
Is that, I know it's a weird thing to say, but.
No, it does make sense.
There was a part of me like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm not trying to like self pity or like look at like, you know, do I seem
like I'm
being self pity?
No.
Okay, good.
Because I like to examine stuff, but I'm not like, you know, being like, woe is
me.
I'm just trying to like look at it.
Right.
Well, you got to think as a kid growing up, you had a lot of negative
interactions with
people, you know, nobody ever looked at me.
Nobody ever looked at me and was like, what's going on with this kid?
Or looked me in the eyes or like people were busy and working and like just
trying to keep
us surviving.
So I think later when I got into relationships and you'd be right there with a
woman and they'd
be looking at you, it made me really nervous and scared because you're like,
damn, these
bitches are pulling up, you know?
And that shit was like, like baby girl.
And you, you weren't used to intimate relationships.
Right.
So intimacy made me super uncomfortable, right?
Well, you weren't used to trusting people.
Yeah.
And probably not even used to really trusting myself.
I don't think I knew who I was.
And probably not used to people being nice to you.
You had to get used to, accustomed to people being nice to you.
Well, we grew up in like a scary place.
And so I felt like I wasn't sure if people were going to be or not, you know?
And so I think that made it like pretty tough when I was young.
But yeah, I don't know.
Some of it, it's been an interesting, it's been an interesting experience, you
know?
And that's life.
It's just like.
Life is an interesting experience.
It really, truly is, you know, but it all, it can be awesome and it can suck.
And the reason why it's awesome is because it can suck.
Like, that's, you need them all.
Yeah.
While we're human.
And I think that's, we have a, we have only so much sand left in that hourglass.
Where the humans are on the way out.
I know a lot of people hate it when Peter Thiel says it.
Like, Peter Thiel is a terrible person.
He's evil.
He's terrible.
Do you think he is?
No.
I think he's just telling you the truth.
I think he's, you know, when they said, do you think human beings should
survive?
And he had like this long pause.
Oh, yeah, I remember.
And then the interviewer was like, the answer is yes.
Yes, there was yes.
The human beings should, which is not how you're supposed to do an interview.
Well, at least not how I do it.
I would let him talk as long as he wants.
Like, I would let, if you watch my podcast I did with him, it's his long ass stammers.
Where he's like, um, uh, everything he does.
He wants to be very careful before he answers it.
So he wants to consider what he's saying.
If you ask me the same question, is it important that humans survive?
Okay.
Is it important that Australopithecus survived?
It's not.
Is it important that Neanderthal survived?
It's not currently.
Currently not important.
Is it important that humans stay in this form?
It's not.
It's not going to be.
If we're going to evolve to something way better than this, how many people go,
I missed the old days when you could lie and you couldn't read minds and people
were a lot more rapey.
No, no one's going to say that.
No one's going to, I missed the wars.
I missed stealing and credit card fraud.
I missed the good old days of a rigged stock market.
When the Jets won.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
No one's going to say that.
They're going to move on to what's next.
So Peter Thiel's right.
It doesn't mean I don't love you.
It doesn't mean that being a person isn't important to me.
Yeah, it is to me because I'm a person.
But I'm also, if I step outside of being a person and I look at where this
thing is going, I'm like, it's going in a different direction.
It's not going in the direction of mRNA vaccines and lying politicians.
It's not.
It's not going in that direction.
It's going in some sort of digital God direction.
And we're either going to join on fucking real quick, real quick, like within a
few years.
We have, I think, what is it, 2026 almost?
We're real close to that.
I think by the time 2030 rolls around, it's a wrap.
I bet.
It's a wrap.
Do you think that money will have any value at that point or no?
I don't know what it's going to mean anymore.
And the problem is going to be some people are going to be in control of assets.
Some people are going to be in control of money.
See, money is just right now mostly – if we're not on the gold standard, what
is money?
If your bill doesn't represent, you could go to Fort Knox and they'll give you
a brick for whatever that money – they'll give you a brick of gold that's
worth that money.
If that's not real, if we don't have that anymore, and if we're on some sort of
digital thing, and if they can just spend money and then inflation rises and
all this money that we spend on wars and all this other crazy –
it's not – where does it come from?
We don't have any money.
We're $37 trillion in debt.
They just print it up.
And if they just print it up, that makes money less and less valuable, and that's
what inflation is all about.
And at some point in time, that's just ones and zeros.
When you have quantum computers, they're basically like digital gods, and they're
in charge of all the assets and all the money of the world, and they're not
human.
They're not human, and they're just going to stop it all.
They're going to say, no, we'll decide how much resources you get to stay alive
for as long as this body lasts because you're not breeding anyway.
Our fucking population is dropping off of a cliff.
Population is a real problem.
It's not – we don't have the correct levels in most giant countries.
Like Japan.
Japan is not in a restorative level.
Like they're not even close.
They're disappearing.
They have a real population collapse problem.
South Korea, a real population collapse problem.
Eventually, that's going to come here.
That was one of the arguments that they had to keep the border open.
That was one of the Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi arguments.
You know, we're not having enough kids.
We need to bring people in.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
There's no way I can look at Chuck Schumer and think he's a good guy.
He looks like a great guy.
Yeah.
If you asked a baby who had been here one day, who's a bad – pick a bad guy
out of this.
Bro, did you ever see the video when –
It's fucking dark out there, man.
That's why we just got to love each other and do the best we can, have a nice
creme brulee, hug a buddy, tickle your friend or whatever, tell him he's gay or
something.
That's a good move.
You know.
I just opened up my Instagram and he popped up immediately.
You're lying.
No, I'm not lying.
You were lying.
What's he trying to sell you?
Some bullshit?
It's something important.
He accidentally said the quiet part out loud about the Epstein files.
They all are doing that, dude.
All right.
Let's see what he said.
Here, I'll send it to you, Jamie.
They got me, these motherfuckers.
It's a rat.
They got me.
How much longer does Israel let us stay alive, do you think?
That's the big question.
Why were they –
What did you say?
Is that AI?
What are you saying?
Is that Sora?
What the fuck are you saying?
I didn't say anything.
What are you saying?
Huh?
Israel Adesanya.
Oh.
Well, he loves you.
Don't worry about it.
Good call.
What the fuck are you saying, son?
What did he say?
What did he say about the Epstein files?
What did he say?
Let's hear what he said.
He looks great.
Yeah, he's been drinking somebody's blood.
He's the last four years when President Biden was in office.
Well, that's the question every American is asking.
Not every American, but so many Americans are asking.
What the hell is he hiding?
Why would –
Well, why were they –
Okay, that was a useless clip.
This whole thing is all bullshit now.
It's all BS.
Well, it's fun.
Do you think he's alive?
Do you think Epstein's alive?
I do not think so.
You don't?
No, I think they killed him.
If I had to guess.
There's too much circumstantial evidence that leads me to believe that it was
an assassination.
You know, I know a lot of people think that he committed suicide.
A lot of very smart people that I know think he committed suicide.
I'm like, there's too many convenient things.
The cut wires, the security cameras rather, not working.
They weren't cut, right?
They just stopped.
They didn't function.
Security cameras didn't function.
The fact that he had shared a cell with this giant fucking former cop who was a
murderer who had killed multiple people.
Just giant roided up cop.
This is a cellmate.
Like, if you wanted to get somebody, look, bro, extra Twinkies, take this guy
out.
Like, it wouldn't be hard.
He's already killed a bunch of people.
He was a drug dealer.
Do you ever see the guy?
Do you ever see the guy who was his cellmate?
No, but it's kind of hilarious.
It's like when you're a freshman in college and they just put you with somebody,
you know?
Bro, if you wanted to get someone killed, you have a high-profile witness, okay?
High-profile witness in the craziest sex trafficking conspiracy of all time.
Where a guy who may or may not have been an intelligence asset or an
intelligence agent or whatever the fuck he was,
for whatever country, this guy, he's arrested for sex trafficking to elites.
And then you put him in jail.
Oh, my God.
With that guy.
I thought that was the guy that fought Mike Tyson.
Remember that dude who read that poem?
Bro, you put him in jail with that guy.
All you have to do is get that guy cigarettes and steroids.
You tell him, I got you Marlboro Reds and Tren.
I got you testosterone replacement for life, even though you're going to still
be in jail.
I got you some Marlboro fucking Test 200s.
Dude, he was found guilty of killing four men.
And they put him in a cell with Epstein.
Look at the size of that fucking savage.
Big guy.
Giant fucking muscle-bound steroided up dude.
And they put him in a cell with Epstein.
And Epstein got strangled.
Well, I'm not Sherlock Holmes, but I think there might be a connection there.
Epstein was probably trying to slurp him.
I bet that he was such a pervert, dude.
Well, if he didn't kill him, then somebody killed him.
I bet he was such a pervert.
I think somebody killed him.
Retired Westchester cop charged with killing four in cocaine deal after bodies
dug up on his property.
Bro, he buried them in his backyard.
Yeah.
That's a crazy motherfucker.
Oh, that's a good gardener, dude.
That guy's fucking composting.
What are you even talking about?
It's true.
It's a better way to deal with it.
They're already dead.
What are you going to do?
Let them go to waste or bring them back to Mother Earth?
Those are leftovers.
That guy's Italian, dude.
They love leftovers.
How deep do you think he dug it?
I bet he was pretty lazy.
That guy's pretty jacked.
I don't know.
I bet he got tired, though.
They don't have good cardio.
You're right.
There's a lot of cardio involved in digging it.
Two feet.
How many bodies?
Four bodies?
Bro, four bodies is four six-foot graves.
Do you think he did a mass grave all on top of each other, or do you think he
was respectful
and made four individual holes?
I bet it was more like, you know when you open up a box of chocolates like that,
kind of.
I don't think it was like a tea or whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
It was like a four-pack of cannoli.
Right there.
Yeah.
Right.
Take the lid off.
You see feet.
Just a dusting of confectionist sugar on him.
Not much.
Cocaine deal went bad.
Fuck.
Broided up cop.
But imagine.
That's horrible.
But imagine you are the most high-profile person being charged.
They put him in there on purpose with that guy.
A hundred.
How could they not?
They did.
How would you not?
There'd be no reason to put him with anybody.
If you're worried about the guy dying, why would you put him in the room and
lock him
in a bedroom?
A tiny little bedroom.
Yeah.
With a roided up murderer.
Yeah.
Just stop and think about that.
You're in a room smaller than this fucking studio that you and I are in right
now with
a roided up murderer.
You're sleeping with that guy.
Oh.
And you wind up getting strangled.
Oh, you hung yourself.
Yeah.
How would you sleep?
Say you have to go to jail, right?
I probably wouldn't sleep.
I know, but I'm just saying, Joe, if you had to go to jail, right, you're in
jail for
something that you've done or didn't do.
Doesn't matter.
Right.
How do you sleep at night?
And there's a big dude in there.
You sleep with your mouth open so he doesn't have to force it open.
Sleep like that.
Bro, no, no, bro.
That's crazy.
But do you sleep with your butt against the wall or away from the wall?
That's a good question.
You sleep on your back?
Depends on what kind of pervert this dude is.
He might be one of them dick sucker guys.
He just wants to suck your dick while he jacks off, oof, you know, then you'd
want to sleep
with your ass to him.
Like, turn over.
Suck your dick.
Like, no, I'm trying to sleep.
Hey, I told you I'm trying to sleep.
Bro, it's crazy.
And then you find out that prisons are private, too.
What?
There's a business in having jails.
So then you find out that prison guard unions are also responsible for keeping
marijuana
illegal.
They get involved in it, too, prison guard unions, because they want to keep
the work
coming.
But like, it just feels like at some point, how do you think it's always been
this way
through history where people have felt like you just feel like such a like a peon
of like
some corrupt financial system?
Do you think it's always been that way?
Or do you think this is like kind of like a highlight of it for America?
Well, this is worse than it's ever been before, for sure.
And the United States is worse than any other country when it comes to incarcerations.
Of course, it's a business.
They want to keep it busy.
In the UK, they probably could use a few incarcerations.
They're letting people loose that are doing horrible shit.
And they're not enforcing crimes over there.
That place is getting real squirrely.
But, you know, the United States, half the people are in there for nonviolent
drug offenses.
Half of them.
Right.
I think it's that.
I think that's the number.
Put that into perplexity.
What percentage of people in American prisons are there for nonviolent drug
offenses?
Yeah.
I think it's like half.
So it's basically, you know, it's a byproduct of prohibition that's led to
millions of incarcerations
where people are locked down for the rest of their fucking life.
I would hate that shit, dude.
Because somebody wants something and you don't think they should be able to
have it.
So you will arrest people, sell them to them, and you will lock them all up for
possessing
it.
If I.
Forty-three.
Forty-three percent of federal prisoners in the United States are serving time
for drug
offenses, which are predominantly nonviolent.
Additionally, about 72 percent of federal prisoners are serving sentences for
nonviolent crimes,
including drug offenses with a significant portion related to drug possession
and trafficking.
Ugh.
Seventy-two percent.
Seventy-two point- in federal prisons, 72.1 percent of inmates are incarcerated
for nonviolent
offenses.
More than half, 55 percent in federal prisons serving time for drug offenses.
So 43 percent of federal prisoners in the United States are serving time for
drug offenses,
but 55 percent are serving time for drug offenses in the summary of key data.
So it must be like, this is what's happening when AI is drawing from multiple
different sources,
I think.
They're giving you different numbers.
So it's somewhere between 43 and 55 percent.
Yeah.
I think it's interesting.
Like, I guess you don't know which ones are like weed, which ones are cocaine,
heroin, fentanyl,
all that kind of stuff that's, you know.
Look at this type of offenses.
The majority of drug-related incarcerations involve possession, which is
classified as a nonviolent
offense.
So, um, put this, um, other than drug offenses and drug possession, what
percentage of people
are in jail for nonviolent crimes?
Put that in there.
Like, discount drugs?
Yeah.
Without, other than, other than drug offenses, what percentage of people are in
jail for
nonviolent crimes?
I gotta get a family, I think.
Yeah, I think that would be good for you.
Okay, let's see.
Nonviolent.
What does it say?
Okay.
Other than drug offenses, about 25 percent of the daily jail population
nationally is incarcerated
for low-level nonviolent offenses, including misdemeanors and public order
offenses.
13 percent are there for property offenses, such as burglary, and around 11 for
public order
offenses, nonviolent infractions, such as weapons charges, probate.
The problem with that is property offenses, like burglary, can lead to violence.
Like, that's the, that, that's next door to violence.
It's not violent, but, like, those guys that got shot breaking into that guy's
house.
As soon as you're breaking into people's property, you're getting super close
to violence.
Yeah.
I think it's violent.
I mean, it's like, if you're inflicting, like, fear on somebody, they're in
their own
home, fuck you, dude.
That's pretty violent to me.
Yeah, it's not violent in that you're hurting a physical person, but you're
breaking into
their house, and anything goes once you break into someone's house.
You know, everybody knows that.
You break into someone's house, anything goes.
They don't know why you're there.
They don't know that you're just a petty thief.
They have no idea.
They're going to fucking shoot you.
We all know that.
Since the numbers were getting small, left over, I Googled the other thing, the
opposite.
Or, not Googled, sorry, perplexity, the opposite thing.
How many are in for violent crimes?
Right.
62% in state prison, but only, like, 7% to 10% in federal.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Most federal inmates are serving sentences related to drug and public order
defenses.
Oh, my God.
That's nuts.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just-
That is so nuts, man.
It's like that-
But do you think it's weed?
I mean, what do you think it is?
No, no, no.
It's probably cocaine.
Cocaine's the big one, right?
Cocaine laced with fentanyl.
And then there's pills, and then there's meth.
Meth is a big one, too.
Those are the ones that everybody's really terrified of.
No one's really-
The marijuana thing is a disingenuous argument, because the marijuana thing is
really, there's
a bunch of special interests that want marijuana to stay illegal.
The actual people that think that marijuana is dangerous are pretty small, and
they're not
totally wrong.
This is a very important point.
Marijuana is not completely safe.
Yeah.
Just like alcohol is not completely safe.
Yeah.
I think there are certain people that, for whatever reason, the way they're
wired, marijuana
can fuck with them, and badly.
And there's some evidence that it could trigger psychosis.
Or, yeah, or just some sort of a psychotic break.
There's real evidence of that.
Oh, definitely, dude.
That shit, some of that shit's bad off, dude.
I've taken some shit.
Dude, I'll-
Powder or crack cocaine offenses, go back, account for more than 54% of drug
offenders.
So that's most of it.
And then there's meth, 24%.
And marijuana represents 12%.
But I guarantee you that marijuana thing, that's dudes who are growing.
You know, you're growing and dealing if they're hitting you up in federal
prison.
Heroin offenders account for 6%.
That's weird.
I would have thought it would have been higher.
Just 6% for heroin.
Because they're so chill.
They never get in trouble.
They never get caught.
But the family that made, but the family that did that, uh, the opioid epidemic
is still just out and about.
Sackler family is just out and about.
Sackler family is still out and about.
They might be responsible for a million people losing their lives.
And the ripple effect of that through families?
Yeah, that's what I mean.
I mean, suicides, drug addictions, families falling apart, lives destroyed.
Where do you think people find a sense of purpose these days in, Joe?
Because it certainly feels like the fabric of, like, some of America.
It used to feel like that gave us a lot of purpose, right?
And some of that feels like it's not there anymore.
Do you feel like that that's a true statement?
Or what do you think?
Well, I think this is also part of the problem with social media is that we
feel that way.
Okay.
And while we feel that way, that everything's falling apart, we still have our
neighbors.
We still have our friends.
We still have the places we go.
We still have all the community that we always had.
You know, we still have the mothership.
We still go to nice restaurants.
You still hang out with your friends and watch the game.
You're still, like, alive on Earth.
But you're so overwhelmed by this fucking constant onslaught of bad news.
That's a good point.
That you're freaking out always.
But then you got ice raids where, you know, they're taking people that are
American citizens
and they're scaring the shit out of everybody.
Yeah, dude, they made me the video thing.
You see that thing where they put me on the video?
Bro, that was crazy.
They didn't even ask you.
Oh, it was really scary for me.
And you were just joking around because you were talking to a guy who's his
friend.
And this was quite a while ago, too, right?
When was that video?
Yeah, I don't know.
It could have been, like, a year and a half ago or something.
I don't remember.
But that was crazy.
But it was a joke.
Right?
She's like a friend.
I don't know if she said a friend of mine got deported.
I can't remember what she said.
But she's like, do you have anything to say to him, right?
And I was like, bye.
You know?
Yeah.
I'm clowning around.
I have no idea if it's real or not.
I have no idea.
You have no idea.
It's literally someone just handed you a phone.
And then Homeland Security?
Was that what it was?
Yeah, just put it up online.
And it was after the Charlie Kirk thing.
Yeah.
And so then I was, like, super scared.
You remember?
Yeah.
I remember I was texting, like, you.
I was just texting people to make sure everybody's okay.
I didn't know if they were, like, just going to kill people that had been on
TikTok or whatever.
I had no idea what they were going to do.
I just can't believe they did that with you, where they just put it in there as
if, like, you were endorsing that.
Well, it just kind of – and it was just a scary time.
That was the same time as after the Charlie Kirk thing.
Who fucking greenlit that?
Who greenlit that?
Probably just some fucking trap beat con artist or whatever.
Like, if a company did that, you could sue them.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if it was privatized – like, if ICE was a private company and that was
the people that the United States hired to get rid of illegal immigrants and
they used you,
you would sue them.
You could sue them.
Well, it was just scary.
But the government can just put that up there, and then what did you do?
You had to formally request them taking it down?
Yeah, and I had to hire an attorney to get them to help to take it down.
How long did it take to take it down?
I think, like, 48 hours or something.
But it had, like, 30 million views over a couple platforms.
And how many people even know it was taken down until they just heard you say
it?
Of course not.
I knew because you told me, but I couldn't believe it.
When you first asked me what I should do about this, I was like, ah, it's
probably nothing.
And I was in the car, and I didn't watch it, and then I got to the club.
Then I talked to you from the club.
And you're like, you didn't see it?
I was like, no.
And then I saw it, and I was like, oh, my God.
What the fuck are they doing?
It's like, that's not how you envision the government.
The government made a hype video?
Yeah.
They were making, like, deportation hype videos with trap beats and shit.
And I was like, what are we doing?
That's what I'm saying.
Everything is turned into, like, the WWE.
None of it's real.
It's 100% that Mike Judge movie.
It's Idiocracy.
Oh, Idiocracy, yeah.
But, yeah, that was scary, man, because then I got, because there was just,
like, a lot of threats, and then it, then, and then things got, like, then it
was just kind of, that, that made me super, that made me kind of paranoid.
And then my mom was visiting, and we went to the doctor.
I went to the doctor.
I was just getting something looked at or something, you know?
And I was in the doctor's office, and there was a nurse asking me questions or
whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then she's like, I got, I have something for you.
I was like, huh?
And she's like, oh, I got, I brought you something.
Can I give it to you?
And I was like, I'm at a doctor's office.
Like, something, she'd made something, I don't know.
For you?
Yes.
Oh, she's a fan?
Something.
And normally, I think it might have been, like, okay, let me, like, but I was
just, like, it was such a weird time, and my mom was visiting, and it was, like,
after the Charlie Kirk thing, it was just super scary.
You just didn't know what was going on.
Like, watching that guy get killed was crazy.
Like, it was, and.
You know what's crazy to me is the way people reacted.
Oh.
That scared me just as much as watching him get shot.
Well, yeah, yeah, and let me think about that in just a second.
I'm just thinking through the end of this, if you don't mind, real quick.
Sorry.
I know you're not interrupting me.
No, no worries.
So I'm in this doctor's office, and it was just weird, you know?
Like, I'm at the doctor.
It made me feel like nothing was safe.
Like, it compounded in my head.
Like, oh, nothing's safe.
Right?
No place is safe where, like, because I'd just given this girl, like, medical
information.
I'm like, is this okay, you know?
And so I talked to the doctor, and it was all cool and stuff, and, like, but
then I go outside, and I was sitting in my car.
My mom was out there with me, and, like, it had just, like, been a lot, like, a
lot of stress.
And I'm sitting there, and I kind of was, like, kind of tearing up, talking to
my mom, and just, like, you know, I told her what happened in the doctor's
office, you know?
And it was after the DHS thing, just a lot of stuff that felt like you don't
have any, there's no, you're solid, you're, no one, I can't think of what I'm
saying.
Like, you're not safe.
Like, there's no.
Well, I think you think that way in particular because you're famous.
So what you felt like you were having a normal professional experience at a
doctor, and then all of a sudden it became a fan experience where you're kind
of trapped.
Right, that's what it felt like.
And it's a doctor where you're supposed to trust, like, you can be at a doctor.
And I'm sitting there with my mom, and she kind of, like, put her hand on me,
you know?
And she's like, you know, everything will be okay.
And then I look up out of the window, and there was some young man, literally
this far from my window, with his phone, like, filming me.
And it was just like, it was just like this, it was just like, that was, like,
a tough time where I think everything, I just got kind of paranoid.
That's a weird thing that people think is totally normal to do, just point a
camera at people and film them because they're famous.
At a doctor's office.
Yeah.
But it's like, I just want to put it up on my Instagram, and I'm going to get
300 likes.
Look, here it is, me and Theo motherfucking Vaughn.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm outside, he's getting his pancreas looked at.
That was crazy, dude.
They could break your medical information.
It felt like it was a movie, though, and they were trying to break you, like,
it felt like this, like, a couple weird beats of a movie.
That's a personal thing, though.
That's a personal thing with you because you're famous.
That's one of the reasons why you think that everything's falling apart.
Because you think everything's falling apart for you because you're dealing
with the fact that you're crazy famous.
Yeah.
That's why you have this elevated sense of everything falling apart.
Like, look at the example that you cited.
A lady who loves you, who's a doctor, but she wants to give you something.
And you thought, man, I thought I was just at a doctor.
Now I'm trapped with some person because you feel like you're trapped a lot.
Trapped a lot talking to crazy people or people that want something from you,
people that are grabbing at you.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
That's why you personally feel like everything's falling apart because you're
having a hard time navigating your new situation, you know.
And then also your new situation is very different than just you as a comedian
because this new situation is you voicing your opinions about things.
And some things controversial and some things not so much.
But then people enjoy it.
And so it gets a lot of attention.
And when it gets a lot of attention, you also get a lot of haters.
You're going to get a lot of jealous people.
You're going to get a lot of people that just disagree with your choices and
guests.
You got a lot of people that think that what you're doing is dangerous.
There's a lot of, like, really fucking idiotic opinions that people attach to
you that don't make any sense, but they're still out there.
And so you're dealing with that, too.
And that's a new thing that you're dealing with that you never dealt with
before.
And it's part of why you have this accelerated thought that everything is
falling apart.
I don't think it's falling apart as bad as everybody thinks.
But I think it's something that it deserves consideration.
Like, we could – this all could fall apart.
And it could fall apart in a lot of, like, very bad ways.
And there's a lot of natural ways it could happen, like we talked about before,
but it could also be self-inflicted.
And at all costs, we have to avoid the self-inflicted thing.
Yeah.
And the only way to avoid it is to not be on a side.
You can't be on that side or this side.
But instead, be on the side of the greater good of everybody.
And that's possible, too.
You have to force politicians to do that.
But is that going to happen with politicians?
I mean, look at Eric Adams this morning.
He just did – or whatever that thing was.
He, like, praised – he's, like, thanked – said he served Israel the best he
could.
It's like, I don't even know if he feels like American.
He probably wanted a check.
He probably did.
Got a nice check.
Probably flew over to get that bag.
Yeah.
Flew over, got the bag, driving a new Cadillac now.
Bro, they just pay people.
The crazy thing is that Israel pays people for social media posts.
Do they really?
I read that.
Let's put that into perplexity.
Is that true?
That might be another Russian hoax.
I was reading that there's countries – and I don't think it's just Israel, by
the way.
There's countries that will pay influencers to post positive things about them.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, even Qatar was, like, they wanted me to come and experience their country,
right?
And I had a nice time while I was there.
Like, I think it was really neat.
But we didn't really talk about, like, you know, the different – like, if
they have different points of view about things or what some of their, like,
rules and things like that are, you know?
But did they want you to post nice things about them?
I think they wanted to experience – they wanted you to experience their
country.
Yes.
Now, I'm assuming –
Israel has paid social media influencers to post content promoting its image,
particularly in the United States, with reports indicating payments of up to $7,000
per post.
This campaign, known as the Esther Project, is managed by a firm called Bridges
Partners, LLC, which works on behalf of the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
The program is disclosed under the U.S. Foreign Agents Registration Act,
meaning that these payments are legally reported and require influencers to
disclose that their content is funded by a foreign government.
That's crazy.
Well, I just don't see how we're supporting this country after the genocide.
I just don't see how that we are – how that's okay to people.
And I think that's the part of me that I don't understand, right, about this
– their leadership there and stuff.
I just do not understand it.
But then you start to think, well, am I crazy?
Because it seems like it's just okay that the politicians all think that this
is okay, and so few of them speak up about it.
Well, I think this is what's separating the old people from the young people in
this country.
Like if you look at the numbers of how many people that are like 18 to 34 that
support the war in Gaza, it's very low.
It's very, very, very low because this is the first time you've ever been able
to see what happens when a superpower is attacking a country that essentially
doesn't have an army and they're doing it for years and they're just blowing
buildings up.
Like we've never really seen that before.
This is the first time in a time where everyone has cell phones, right?
Obviously this has happened.
You know, countries have bombed each other, Dresden.
There's been Hiroshima, of course, Nagasaki.
They blew up entire cities, right?
But we didn't get to watch it happen bit by bit.
You didn't get to see drone footage that's in 4K.
You know, you didn't get to see cell phone footage of missiles being fired into
camps of people waiting in line for food.
You didn't get to see any of that shit.
And, you know, you're seeing wild shit.
Then you're also seeing horrible things that Hamas is doing too.
You're seeing people getting publicly executed in front of cheering crowds.
You're seeing people get dragged out, kicked to the ground, gunned in the head.
You're seeing the horrors of war is what you're seeing on both sides.
And we just have a hard time accepting that that's the only way to do things.
And I think that the young people of this country, they don't want any part of
anything like that anymore.
Well, they have been told by their parents.
They've been told by the people they grew up with that if the war is hell,
there shouldn't be any war.
And most of this shit happens because people are making money.
That's what most of it had.
They prolong it so they can make more money.
They want weapons development.
They want to launch new shit.
They want to sell shit to people that need weapons.
And most young people are aware of that now.
Or I think most people my parents' age, all they had was the Vietnam War.
They knew the Vietnam War was bad.
But I don't think they really knew the extent of how much corruption is
involved in everything that our government does.
Everything has the hand of some corporation attached to it.
Everything has the influence of some foreign government or some country that
has massive resources.
There's always – it's never clean.
Nothing's clean.
Well, it just felt like me, I think, a lot of times – well, for one, it feels
like they're going to stop allowing TikTok.
People are going to own it.
I think they're selling it or something.
So they probably won't be able to show stuff like that anymore.
Well, they sold it to Larry Ellison's company, right?
Isn't that who bought TikTok?
I thought so, but I don't know.
Yeah, I want to be sure about this.
But do you think they'll do that so they can limit its control, like control
what goes on it?
Well, I think the real worry that they had before that sale was that China was
in control of it.
And I think they're right.
And I think that if you have a foreign country and a foreign country is using a
very popular social media website to spread propaganda, spread things that
absolutely aren't true, along with – I'm sure some things are true.
Yeah.
But they have their finger on which way the influence goes.
That's dangerous.
That's dangerous.
Now, I'm not saying that Larry Ellison's company is going to do a great job of
being totally objective and letting people criticize Israel, letting people
criticize Hamas.
I don't know.
We'll see.
We'll have to see.
I'd be crazy to say –
Yeah, I don't know.
I never met that guy.
I don't know anything about that company.
It'd be crazy for me to say any differently.
But it's not safe to have a foreign country that is actively trying to fuck
with the way people have discourse in America, which is certainly what China's
doing.
So according to the – it hasn't yet changed place.
The shutdown had something to do with this.
And this article is from today, I think, where people in Congress still don't
even know what's going on.
Right.
So this says Congress is still waiting to get briefed on how TikTok sale would
actually stop Chinese algorithms from causing harm to U.S. citizens, U.S.
military, and U.S. interests, she said.
The lack of transparency has caused concern for both Democrats and Republicans
who are still waiting for secure briefings on how to stop malign actions.
Yeah.
So this is the thing is like – that's a good point because they do it on X.
So Chinese bots, they swarm X.
And there was a former FBI analyst.
We read this article 100 times.
His estimation – this is right around the time Elon was buying Twitter –
that it could be as much as 80 percent bots.
Oh, so much as bots it seems like.
So much as bots out there.
But this is what this is.
This is like China.
This is Russia.
This is foreign countries that they'll say things about U.S. aid.
They'll say things about gay rights.
They'll say things about LBGTQ whatever issues, whatever it is, the border,
whatever it is, U.S. aid, whatever it is.
And they just flood the discourse.
They flood it.
And so they have their finger either way on how much negative shit you see
about any kind of subject.
And whoever is the best at it, whoever is the best at this kind of propaganda,
this is like an incredible tool to use to demoralize another country, to have
another country hating itself, hating its actions.
And if you leave that in the hands of China and they own the company like
TikTok, at least if someone in America owns it – and again, I don't know what
they're going to do.
But at least if they own it, you would say, OK, but at least they're not
actively trying to fuck with us and make us battle back and forth.
They're just allowing the algorithm to do its natural course.
Right.
I guess if they're going to do that, we don't know.
Here's the thing.
If you can't stop bots, then all of them are fucked because they're just going
to keep making new accounts.
It's too easy.
They sign up.
Fake emails.
Fake person.
Wink.
They're in.
If you don't make people – and then what are you going to do?
Are you going to require a digital ID?
Fuck that.
You should be able to be a whistleblower.
If you're working for some company and you find out they're dumping nuclear
waste into the ocean and it's killing all the fish, someone should be able to
anonymously report that.
And you should be able to do that through social media without having a digital
ID that shows exactly who you are.
And they can shut you down.
It's just like – I don't know.
It's sketchy times, man.
Well, it's sketchy times.
I mean the same company, that company Palantir that was doing all that crazy
stuff in Gaza and they were like, you know, running all the drones and stuff
like this, allegedly.
What are you talking about?
What are you saying they did?
That they had – like were compiling data on people that were there and they
were operating a lot of the drones in the sky that also had weapons attached to
them.
Okay.
So you mean like facial recognition data?
Right.
Do they have that capability with drones where they could just zoom around?
Is this horseshit?
It's real?
Jamie's not even willing to talk on camera.
He's giving me wicks and knives.
I'm sure they do.
No, no, no, no.
They got a big contract in America now, which is scary to me.
That's what's scary to me, that a drone could go by, that maybe that's what
happened to Charlie Kirk.
Who knows?
Maybe a drone – you just have no – who you can even point the finger at?
A bullet comes out of the middle of nowhere.
True.
That's the kind of – I'm not saying I'm paranoid about it all the time.
Let me push back against that.
I'm just saying I have –
Listen.
Okay.
You're right.
However, China's making drones and they're making really good ones, way more
sophisticated than our drones.
If you don't have drone development and some kind of drone defense system in
America, you just – if you say, oh, no one should have that kind of power.
You're right.
No one should have that kind of power.
However, China already does.
So if you just have no innovation and you have no way to implement any kind of
defense system with drones in America, but it's already in China and it's
already in Russia, you're kind of in trouble.
Okay.
So you have to have something in that space.
You've got to be moving forward into like – yeah, you've got to have the
weapons.
If they're already – it's like the nuclear bomb.
If they're already doing it, you better fucking get it.
Right.
You better get it.
I think, yeah.
To me, it's just scary that the company that was allegedly doing that there is
the company that we hired to like – I believe create a database and have some
of the same opportunities here.
Or they could potentially be able to do the same thing here.
To me, it just kind of tracks where it's like –
Yeah.
Well, any one private company that has a database and all the information on
every person and where you are and what you're doing, yeah, that's sketchy.
What are you woofing?
What's going on?
I'm looking at the story, the reporting on this.
It's that absolute power corrupts absolutely thing.
You know, this is like absolute power.
One AI system is called the gospel.
Another one is called Where's Daddy?
Oh, Jesus Christ.
They're used to identify people.
One of them is called Lavender.
That sounds lovely.
AI-enabled data processing system developed and used by the Israeli occupation
forces in their – this says – genocidal campaign against Gaza have caught
widespread attention, prompting journalists to call Gaza the site of the first
AI-powered genocide.
AI technology was reportedly first used in Gaza during Israel's 11-day assault
in 2021.
During the ongoing genocide, for the first time, it's being used to kill
Palestinians at an unprecedented level and at much faster rates.
The known – these three known systems identify targets for airstrikes based
on Israeli mass surveillance records of the Palestinians in Gaza that have been
collected for years by the IOF under the racist framework of monitoring what
they deem as threats to the Israeli regime.
This is from Palestine-studies.org.
So who knows also how –
Yeah, this is – it's obviously –
Going to be favored towards them.
Yeah.
But listen, I absolutely believe they have that kind of technology where they
can recognize your face from the air.
The scariest part to me – Jamie, will you bring it back up for one more
second?
The scariest part to me was just the quickness they could do it and then like
the review, right?
Like a few Israeli intelligence agents shared with Plus 972 Magazine that they
personally only take 20 seconds to review and approve the airstrike
recommendation.
Using a time only to confirm if the target is a male.
Whoa.
It's unclear if this is actual policy.
Right.
What is that?
So this is –
But yeah, this started making me feel –
They shared – okay.
So they shared this in a magazine.
They shared – this is – so they said this in an interview in a magazine
that it only takes 20 seconds to review.
And the time is only to confirm if the target's a male.
It's unclear if this is actual policy.
In August, however, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights released a
statement revealing that the majority of those killed in Gaza are women and
children.
So here's the other thing.
Obviously, horrible things have happened there, right?
But if you're getting your information from the people where the horrible
things are happening, it's hard to know if they're being accurate.
You know?
I don't know if it is truly that they're mostly killing women or children –
women and children.
Yeah.
Or if a good percentage of them have actually been Hamas agents.
I don't know.
Yeah, I think the scary –
Because that's what Israel says, right?
They say that a lot of them were Hamas.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was like two-year-old Hamas agents they were firing and shooting,
which who knows?
I don't know.
You know?
Who knows?
Well, I bet they probably think about them as future, especially now when you've
blown up their fucking city.
You know?
I mean, how many – if there were terrorists there, how many are created by
watching something like that happen?
Quite a bit.
Well, the thing for me, I just thought like that America would come help at
some point.
That was a scary – I think that's when I just thought like, oh, I just have a
different concept of what's going on.
Or also, these are just my thoughts.
I don't know what's going on.
And I don't need anybody to believe my thoughts or think the same way I do.
I think the thing that made me nervous was that that same company, Palantir,
got a deal in America to create a database and help with like surveillance and
stuff.
So that just makes me scared, you know?
It made me a little bit nervous.
Not scared, but just like a little bit like what's going on here?
Are we going to enter a surveillance state, you know?
Well, that's one of the arguments for letting chaos take place.
One of the arguments for letting crime, letting criminals back out is that you
make it so dangerous that in order to make it safe, you have to put
restrictions on people.
And that's the only way.
And you show that it's effective.
And then people comply.
And then everybody has a digital ID.
The government tracks you.
Like, you know, like that Life 360 app where you can track all your friends,
track all your family.
Yeah, see if your wife's running around on you, whatever.
Yeah, and the government can do that as well.
Or just going to parties a lot.
The government can do that as well.
Yeah.
Well, I think one thing that I thought of.
Do you know how crazy that is?
To allow the government to constantly know where you are and what you're doing.
And constantly, you'll be looking over your shoulder.
So you're going to self-censor.
You're going to be scared.
You're going to be scared to talk because your phone's going to be listening.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I mean, crazy where we mentioned Chuck Schumer and then you opened your phone.
That's nuts.
I mean, that was.
Yeah.
What's the possibility of that?
And that was momentarily later.
Yeah.
Momentarily later, the algorithm recognized that I was talking about Chuck Schumer.
That was.
Let's see if it works.
Big fat tits.
I mean, big fat tits.
Okay.
Big fat tits on your 45-year-old stepmom.
Ooh.
I'm not talking.
Here we go.
That fucking.
Let's do it.
Imagine if it just immediately.
That front porch.
Goes to.
Nope.
I got head kicked.
What about the explore page?
Would you buy a.
I'll check my explore page real quick.
Would you buy a cat off a Facebook marketplace?
Sure.
Why not?
Okay.
I wouldn't.
If it's a cute cat.
Fuck that, bro.
Cat looks fun.
Look, dude.
I'm not buying a cat.
Oh, yeah.
Right in my for you page.
Let me see one of them, huh?
Hey, how about this?
Right in my for you page.
A funner test is to text something random to someone and then give it five
minutes and
check your like for you pages on an app.
Right away, it's ladies with large boobs.
I say, hey, let me see one of them and guess what the other one looks like.
That's my old trick.
That's a good trick.
Yeah.
Then you're like, I don't know.
I bet that other one's weird looking.
Yeah.
I bet that other one's different.
That one's too perfect.
Yeah, I love that.
There's no way they both look the same.
Dude, I used to do this.
I used to do this fun thing.
I would have if I sat next to somebody in an airplane, I would have them draw a
picture
of their kids.
Like if they had kids, I'd like draw a picture of your kids and dude, it would
be the most
fucking ridiculous looking picture, but it would always be pretty fun, you know?
Yeah, I think I was just concerned about like if that's the company that does
it here.
So that's like where my brain tracks like a ring of gun to that.
And that should be scary.
That's why I think ice.
That's why I think all the ice stuff happened, because I think they have to get
everybody on
the books.
This isn't about like, they have to do an inventory now of everyone because
they're going
to need, otherwise when it's a surveillance state, it's all going to know if
you're not
like documented or on the bill of sale or whatever, it's going to be, or you're
not on the inventory
list.
If you're not inventoried in the country, then the machine will know
immediately, oh, this
isn't, you're not even supposed to be here, right?
So that's why I think that the ice stuff is happening, because I think one of
the reasons
is they have to get everything inventoried.
I see what you're saying.
I think the ice stuff is happening.
A lot of it is because of political power.
It's congressional seats, because the census just counts people.
They don't count legal citizens.
And when you let people come over here illegally, and then you give them food,
and you give
them Medicare, what happens is those people are going to vote for you if they
can, and they're
also going to count.
They're going to stay.
And so they count, and your district has congressional seats.
That's what's crazy.
They only count the people.
They don't count the citizens.
So if you get as many people in as possible, you can take over congressional
seats.
And if you make it really easy for those people to get by, like, they say, hey,
California's
the place to go.
They don't give a fuck.
You can be illegal there.
Nobody cares.
Which is the way it was, basically, until I started arresting people.
It's always been like that.
I mean, what percentage of people do you run into L.A. in L.A. that are illegals?
A lot.
And no one cares.
It's always been like that.
I don't care, yeah.
It's not a problem for me.
And now all of a sudden, they're getting arrested.
But there is the argument that by having people that came over illegally, you
change the congressional
map.
You do.
You get more seats.
And that's kind of crazy.
That's kind of crazy.
It's all fun.
It just feels like, I don't know.
It feels like very, like, I don't know.
It feels like a lot of different things.
But you're right.
I think you just have to focus in on things that are important, you know?
Well, it's an easy way to increase your population, man.
Make it so people can definitely come over.
Make it so, cut holes in the fence for them.
You ever see when they did that?
They cut holes in the fence.
Like, some people would put up, like, these fucking heavy-duty fences and here.
I'll put that titty bar right there.
If you put a titty bar right there, boy.
I don't think you should have a bottle of water sales is the better move.
Water and tits.
What about that?
Together?
I think generally people like alcohol with their tits.
I don't know.
If you've been in the desert for a couple days.
That's true.
It's a good point.
Very good point.
Where's my bookmarks?
Here it is.
I'll send you this, Jeremy.
Because this is kind of crazy when you watch it.
You're like, what could you possibly be doing here other than purposely letting
people into the country?
I think there was a lot of that.
And I think there was a lot of that because they want cheap labor, too.
That was something that someone told me once, that they were stunned, that a
CEO said that they were against these border enforcements because they wanted
cheap labor.
So they sent it right out to him.
Look at this.
Biden-Harris sent forklifts to open the border when Texas built a razor wall.
It's all insane.
Like, why would you do that?
Wait a minute.
You did what?
You sent a forklift to open up the razor wire?
What?
But do you think that they all know that the other parties just do, like, do
you think that they all go behind closed doors and be like, okay, what are you
guys going to do this month?
And then we're going to do this.
And it's all just this theatrics?
No, I don't think they coordinate like that.
I think they hate each other.
No.
But this is nuts, man.
This is, like, genuinely nuts.
It's nuts.
And by the way, I feel for these people.
I would do the same thing.
I would 100% be in line.
I see these people with their babies hoping for a chance at a better life in
America.
They're not the problem.
The problem is cartel people and the whole congressional seats thing.
That's the problem.
Well, these people have all become pawns.
They'll send information to the countries that they live in and get them to
come.
Listen, if the population – you're right.
I didn't mean to interrupt you.
No, it's – I don't even know probably what I was saying, but I don't know.
If the population –
We're better than this.
That's what I'm saying.
We're better than this.
You and I are.
Yes.
Yeah.
As people, we are better than this.
Yes.
And we have all these elected officials and these people that we thought were
like us.
Manipulative sociopaths.
When does that end?
That's a good question.
And can it end?
Do you think there's a way to end it?
It's going to be hard.
My suspicion is it ends when AI starts sorting government.
We're probably going to use AI with government to prevent this kind of fuckery
that we see on an everyday basis.
AI will like logically make decisions as to like what makes sense and what
doesn't make sense about our current legal structure.
Like some things that – like if people become politicians and the reason why
they become politicians is they know they can inside trade with Nancy Pelosi
and make hundreds of millions of dollars like she did.
Like that's crazy.
That can't be that way anymore.
And I think any intelligent – like artificial intelligence that's not
attached to an ideology or a party is going to immediately – if they both
agree, if America votes on it and say we want AI to take a look at the
government and AI immediately goes like you can't do that.
You can't do this.
Like this is bad.
This is evil.
This is a lie.
This is truth.
And you're suppressing it.
And then we probably don't have anything remotely like the government we have
now because I think that mind reading software, it's already in beta, right?
It's already – they're already able to communicate going back and forth
asking each other questions.
They are.
They have headsets.
You don't even have to get an implant.
Does that – is it Google that did that, Jamie?
What was the company that did that where they were asking each other questions
and then answering them?
It's not Google.
I don't even think that's available yet, but –
No, but it's in beta.
The point is it's in beta.
So they're doing this already.
And as this stuff gets more potent, it's going to be just like we used to have
little flip phones without a color screen and now you have an iPhone.
And it's going to be that.
It's going to go from you used to be able to just ask each other questions to
we can all read each other's minds.
It's coming, man.
And when that happens, Turtle Face, that Mitch McConnell motherfucker, you can't
operate anymore as a leader.
You can't – no.
You're seen now as what you are.
You're an agent of money.
You're a money agent moving money and influence around.
You're not doing it for the greater good of people by any stretch of the
imagination.
And also, how are you still working when you Windows 98 on us every now and
then?
Yeah.
That guy just freezes up.
You ever see him?
Yeah, because his –
You ever see him lock up?
Just lock up.
How is that guy still able to make decisions on anything?
His receptors are down.
You fucking see his receptors go down, man?
Do you think he's a robot?
You think he's not a robot?
What do you think at this point?
That guy?
They can't even – they didn't even update his lips to fucking – yes.
If there's a robot, it's RFK Jr.
Imagine if Candice comes out and she does a deep dive and said there was no RFK
Jr.
Do you know that?
All those photos are AI.
This is a – there's no evidence of him whatsoever until 2021.
And she's like, and what is this here?
RFK Jr. has a camel toe?
What is this here?
What are we looking at?
It was more of a woman.
She's the first.
Dude, Candice is the best.
I went to see – she has – her and her husband have four of the most
beautiful kids in the world.
And they're so funny and you go over there and they're just like dying,
laughing.
And one of them looks just like her.
It's so funny, dude.
Do you think she's right about that French president?
Oh, the winner?
Yes.
Whether or not he is married to a man.
She's all in on that, bro.
Oh, she's all in.
Well, they're suing her, aren't they?
I think they are.
I don't know if they still are or not.
I think they're at least threatening a lawsuit.
It's like for like 50 million bucks.
We winner?
That would be my – if she ever writes a book, that's got to be it.
But, dude, it is kind of strange that the guy is dating his teacher, right?
Or when he was like 40 and the kid was 15.
Or she was 40.
Even if it was a she.
Like, what?
And again, this is France.
They're very different over there.
Yeah.
And I feel he was just like, oh, get your wiener out of that child.
Wiener.
What have you done?
Wiener.
He's almost 15.
Bro, if she does, she better have a hog on her.
I bet she doesn't.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know if she has the body style to have a real fucking hog on her.
If they release, the last thing needs – the last thing France needs is to
release like a wiener that looks like it's retreating kind of.
It will just go down in this – they need to release a fucking hog, you know?
Did you see that information that Hitler might have had a micropenis?
They got genes from Hitler's blood, and it seems to indicate that he had a
genetic disorder that would lead you to have a micropenis, which totally makes
sense, right?
I'm not surprised these days.
About Hitler?
Why would you be surprised?
Hitler would be the guy I would think would have a micropenis.
The guy who wants to kill everybody and take over the world?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, a little tiny dick.
I make it bigger!
And he's fucking doing coke and heroin and all – he was doing oxycodone, man.
And he had his whole army on meth.
Yeah.
That's fucking wild.
With a little dick, just running everything.
With an iron fist!
The making of a tyrant.
How Hitler's deformed genitals shaped his personality.
Whoa!
Here's the thing, though.
Here's the thing.
If you had a little dick, you would always check and make sure you'd be like,
fuck, it's still little.
That's what would happen all the time.
Or every day you'd woke up, you'd be like – it'd be like the masked singer.
You'd like open your pants and hope it was something different.
He knows.
I think he knows.
This dick is little.
He's like, now everyone gets punished!
Fucking Poland!
Polish guys with big old hogs.
He's probably jealous.
Yeah, brother.
I think they – yeah, I don't know.
In the future, I don't even know if they got little dicks in the future.
I think that's what aliens are.
That's us.
Generalists.
You know how they got the DNA?
How?
From the blood-soaked couch.
He apparently blew his brains out on it, it says.
Yo, they saved that?
Yeah, it says the first guy that found it took a piece of the couch, saved it,
and they studied that.
Wow.
Which some people think that didn't happen.
Yeah, some people think he got moved to Argentina, right?
Yeah, it's also said there's only a one in ten chance he had a micropenis.
Oh, that's a lot of chances.
I don't like those odds.
I ain't playing Russian roulette with a revolver with ten rounds in it.
Fuck that.
All right, I got to pee, so we got to wrap this up.
Dude, I have to pee so bad, dude.
Thank you.
I'm glad we waited.
I love you.
You are?
You're the best.
I love you too, man.
Thanks for – yeah, thanks for everything.
Thanks for the inspiration.
It was fun hanging with you, as always.
Goodbye, everybody.
Goodbye, everybody.
Goodbye, everybody.