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Duncan Trussell is a stand-up comedian, voice actor, and host of “The Duncan Trussell Family Hour.” He will perform live April 9–11 at Zanies Comedy Club Rosemont in Rosemont, Illinois. Tickets are on sale now. https://rosemont.zanies.com/show/category/series/2026-duncan-trussell/zanies-comedy-club-rosemont/rosemont-illinois/ www.youtube.com/@duncantrussellfamilyhour www.patreon.com/dtfh www.duncantrussell.com

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the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day

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oh i didn't know we had bells yeah bro we got bells

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it's probably super annoying to people listening for that it's christmas the

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war on christmas must

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end it did how dare we say merry christmas how dare you say that it offends me

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did you ever see

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kamala harris do that when she had that she said how dare you say christmas you've

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never seen it

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no oh my god okay let's start with this because it's so crazy i don't

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understand the context so

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like i wish i could be charitable and say well there's probably a context where

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this makes sense

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yeah satan is the lord of the earth is the context but you know you see

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something and it's only a 15

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second clip and you're like okay let me just be the nicest person possible yes

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like what what could be

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the reason why you would say how dare we say merry christmas yeah unless you're

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playing a character

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right well she's on stage doing a play she's like i want to read from my

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college play where i was the

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grinch can you imagine saying that like it seems like a nightmare that you

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would wake up from it says

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harris fumed at americans saying merry christmas before illegal migrants were

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protected in resurfaced

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clips oh you're not allowed to say it until there's absolute peace and harmony

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on the planet then we can start

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saying it again this is so scolding and weird only when they cleared that vet

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did we give them daca status

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and now we're talking about taking it away

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it is morally wrong no thank you i didn't know and when we all sing happy tunes

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and sing merry

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christmas and wish each other merry christmas these children are not going to

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have a merry christmas

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how dare we speak merry christmas how dare we

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they will not have a merry christmas who are you to say that i don't know if

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they will be here in a

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matter of days weeks and months since september 5th over 12 000 have lost their

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status this is the the here's

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why you can't um be charitable because it's just a bad perspective it's just a

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bad perspective charitable

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what do you mean because if you wanted to like what does she anything she's

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saying make sense oh you

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they're not mutually exclusive all right you can't it's like celebrating joy

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and happiness and some people

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suffering it's like you can't you can't say no one is going to suffer

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anywhere before i celebrate no because that's crazy now you're taking in the

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entire earth's

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consciousness and all of its decisions yeah as to whether or not you will or we

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not will not be happy

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like you and i didn't force anybody to work in the cobalt mines not yet buy

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these phones we buy these

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fucking phones and we know we know that electronics that have cobalt in them

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were probably pulled out of

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the ground by slaves should we never celebrate anything again until those

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people are free no

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never never we should just be shitting in our hands rubbing in our faces

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whipping our backs until the

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whole world experiences a simultaneous orgasm then merry christmas to you but

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if you were a drone

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so let's just say they really are intergalactic beings and you're watching all

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of our hypocrisy and our

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scolding of each other and these like untested perspectives just

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jizzed out into the world and you're looking at all this craziness like

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the the manufacturing of almost everything that we have that comes from

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overseas is probably from

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horrible conditions yeah we've just accepted that yeah like if aliens were

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watching this to be like

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who are they bullshitting who they're bullshitting each other they're bullshitting

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themselves right

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they're trying to figure out how many genders there are they're trying to they're

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trying to decide

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like who's the most protective status who you can't discuss about anything yeah

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currently that's illegal

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immigrants yeah well you know i was just like dude for i don't know why i

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started doing this highly

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recommend it i started listening because i forgot a lot of the new age ideas so

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i started listening

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to new age channeled audibles aliens channeled through new age people oh cheers

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my brother cheers

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merry christmas we're off to a great start isn't that seth speaks isn't that it's

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a whole genre

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but is that seth speaks person is that that's the whole deal behind that right

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it's okay so it's

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again i'm like my mom got into it briefly because she dated this new age dude

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and i hated it

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he wore birkenstocks he'd force us to go on hikes he wouldn't let me take my

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fake gun i would you know

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you're a kid you want to take your fake gun on the hike he's like we don't do

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that on hikes you know

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the uh fascist hike where you're forced to recognize the beauty of nature and

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it's like dude don't put

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that on me i i'll i'll find it on my own but he got my mom into new age stuff

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and this was prime

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new age time this is like uh this is when they all killed themselves it's like

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they were part of it too

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you remember the they were wearing the sneakers what were they called heaven's

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gate oh yeah that was

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a new age cult so um i remember like watching these old grainy vhs tapes with

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my mom and this dude

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and um thinking they were cool and like there was some sound that was playing

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in one and my mom looks

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at me like hopefully like do you recognize that sound because i guess

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here's the thing about all this i think some telepathy is real it is real i

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think it is real

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have you listened to the telepathy tapes no you haven't i haven't listened to

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it it's a new podcast

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it's out and it's all about this scientific research that was done with non-verbal

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autistic kids and their

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parents and they were able to go into another room and they would uh bring up

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things to one

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whether it was i think i think they'd bring things up to the mom or the mom

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would say things

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but the kid was accurate 95 percent of the time wow with numbers with colors

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yeah

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like not like three numbers in a row yeah like you know how crazy that is just

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to guess three numbers

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in a row 95 of the time yeah like whatever it is they think it's real i'm only

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on episode two

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so um but it's really fascinating man because it's a dismissed thing it's a woo-woo

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thing sure but if

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it's real shouldn't scientists study it like it's real and it seems like

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through scientific study

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it's real yeah i think it's definitely you've probably experienced it i've

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experienced it i think it's an

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emerging part of human consciousness that we don't we don't agree to or we don't

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admit to like we know

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there's something there but we're not like that's too silly it's just there's

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so many people that fake it

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that's the problem right because everybody like wants to have some special

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thing that they have

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i just have a special thing you have a special thing duncan you have a special

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talent i mean think

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of all fire starter carrie yeah stranger things this is the fantasy when i was

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a kid dude i would sit

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when my dad was working in his apartment and try to make on the table move with

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my mind because i've

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been reading books on telekinesis one day you know like when uh when like you've

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got a cold drink

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and it gets a little wet on the bottom one day as i'm doing that because of

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that it slid forward

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and like i i was like totally freaked out because i thought i had used telekinesis

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to slide it was

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just luck it was just luck it was just a badly balanced floor it was just a

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shitty apartment in

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college station but you know that's the that once you recognize the flaw in the

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operating system in

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humans is like as a kid like for a few days i was like i might be telekinetic

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but like once you know

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people want that or want to believe in it and how easy it is to manufacture

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those moments and then

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claim responsibility holy dude you can really pull some strings on people

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because there's an assumption

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let's say some i do know i i really believe in telepathy i'm positive it exists

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but the assumption

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then would be like you get around a telepathic person well they must be good

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because they're

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telepathic right they're they're they're magic so we should trust them this is

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where people get real

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fucked up these are called in india they call them cities which is if you

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meditate a lot right you begin

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to like well i would say comedy is a city oh you know it's not special uh i was

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talking to luis gomez about

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sales you know that says that's the really good people and get in your head and

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get you to buy

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shit he was saying it's like basically magic and it's like so hypnosis hypnosis

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yeah but man have you

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ever been hypnotized yes i have it's interesting right dude my mom hypnotized

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me when i had a wart

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because she had heard you could hypnotize people and the wart goes away hypnotized

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me said something

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about the wart going away within a couple of weeks i swear to you that wart

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dried up and just

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fell off my hand whoa yeah whoa what the whoa what the so that's the placebo

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effect

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the placebo effect is real you know i had a guy tell me this once he was like a

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kind of a wacky

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healing chiropractic type guy yeah and he was telling me that if you believe

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what i'm saying

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is true because i was asking him like how does this work like how is this

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working like how are you

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healing people by by working on my pressing on things if you believe it works

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oh so it's a lie

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but if i believe the lie so what are you selling like you just you're just you're

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just like

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fucking manipulating people and saying mumbo jumbo muscular structural words

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yeah and you're doing

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you're doing hypnosis kind of because you're you're sort of admitting that by

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healing like a person who's

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going to heal you with words and talking and touching you they're tricking you

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into doing it yourself

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well i mean the placebo effect it's real is real it's i've i've heard it's one

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of the most powerful

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effects in medicine is it really yeah well i mean yeah you think of like the

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new cancer drugs they tell

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your immune system what to attack right so if somehow you you could do that

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without the drug if

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they're and that's where it gets interesting right because we these are our

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bodies right perfectly

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metabolizing transforming so many things instantaneously the heart effortlessly

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beating

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all the time so theoretically purely theoretically you what if you could

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control more of it like how much

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of this thing can we actually control and by the way that's a really fun thing

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to think about because

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like not much and so do you ever think about that like you sort of think like

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okay like i'm

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how much of my body can i really do anything about i can eat good food i can

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exercise but all the quantum

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processes that are happening within all of the things you kind of realize you're

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just the tip of the

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iceberg you're just the yappy tip of the iceberg yeah and underneath it is all

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this stuff that is you

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but really isn't you if having control of yourself is like a way to identify

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this is me so what are you in

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that swirl of particulates like what are you in there yeah what are you yeah it's

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that's most people and

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that's one of the reasons why ideologies are so interesting because it's the

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same thing it's the same

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person it's just they've agreed to one thing or they agreed to the other thing

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and it could be how you were

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raised or it could be you rebelling or it could be but people find a way to

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slip into a groove yeah and

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it's so much easier yeah than trying to look at like what is this yeah what is

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this thing we're doing

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where i'm making noises with my mouth you're reading my mind yeah and we're

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like broadcasting it to the

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world by making noises with your mouth we're we're speaking through each other's

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minds yeah and also

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though you know when you get into the telepathy idea uh which is sort of like

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the question is like uh

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you know right now we identify our minds as some kind of neurological process

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right so the idea is

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like we have this like bio computer and somewhere in there is our mind

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everything out here not our mind

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even though everything out here from a neurological perspective is our mind

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everything you're seeing

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is an instantaneous uh interpretation of a variety of phenomena that gets

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compressed into reality and then

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you say oh out there is that that's not me but it is you it's like it's you in

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the way if you put on

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vr goggles you know except in this case the vr goggles it's your neocortex it's

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all the processes

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that are making color light sound etc so if we're sort of sharing a dual

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reality which is all the phenomena

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that's being interpreted into our minds somewhere in there is the possibility

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that we're we kind of

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share a mind so from that perspective all these other things become possible

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telepathy all of this

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stuff like you know you get around funny people you get funnier when i was

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doing the midnight gospels

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around all these artists i got better at drawing like you share a mind it's the

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gestalt or you know the

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where three or two or more of you gathered there will be that something else

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comes in the room and

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i think we're collaborating with something that we're we're we don't truly

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understand because we're still

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trapped in primate bodies yes so i think i think we have these moments of

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recognition of these connections

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you know and in great moments in life and these beautiful things that can

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happen and it's all

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being twisted up by this ape this wild ape that had to survive for thousands

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and thousands of years

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by killing its neighbors yeah and and eating monkeys and and running around and

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clubbing things to death and

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eating raw meat yeah until it figured out how to harness fire and then it had

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to deal with neighboring

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tribes coming in with hordes of people with swords and spears yeah you had to

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run for the hills they

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killed your kids in front of you they fucked your wife in front of you they cut

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your dick off and

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stuffed it in your mouth and this was thousands and thousands of years yeah

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yeah this thing we're doing

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right now is so recent yeah this thing where you can meet strangers you don't

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have to worry about

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killing them yeah that's super recent dogs aren't there yet that's why dogs

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freak out when someone

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comes to your door they're not there yet they still remember the old days and

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the the that's a great

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point that they're still like dude usually if someone's coming up yeah we have

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to kill it like

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and they're reminding you of that you know and it's true i mean but and if you

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look at that collective

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epigenetic trauma as an egregore as a ghost a ghost haunting the planet the

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ghost of like not that

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long ago the ghost of primate past the gross ghost of primate past haunts us

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and it that's why it's so

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easy to slide into um aggressive patterns and defensive patterns that are

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completely unnecessary and that's

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what they are too this is what you have to realize it's not you it's patterns

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that you've selected

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and you've you've selected them over and over and over again and they've become

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you it's like you went

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down a groove you don't have to stay on that groove no you don't have to but i

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think

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you have to find something in life um that's physical that you enjoy because i

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think that's

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one of the best ways to manage this weirdness the absolute best way is through

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getting physically

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exhausted sure just get forget on purpose get physically exhausted and then you

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can manage the

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craziness right of existing yeah because everybody wants to pretend that it's

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normal everyone wants to

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pretend that existence is like oh you know you get up in the morning you have

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your eggs and your bacon

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and you do your do you hear what chapel ron said yeah exactly exactly it's like

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every day it's like oh

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my god this is happening what do you think the drones are what do you think the

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drones are you know how

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much did dancy pelosi make this week in the stock market yeah uh yeah even i

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like what what is this

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right what are we doing did you see the new that they found out about

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consciousness in the

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human brain this popped up on my feed this dude penrose this guy used to be an

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anesthesiologist he already

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knew about these neurological structures that are these quantum tubules that

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apparently anesthesia

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impacts and he began to think maybe consciousness is not associated as much as

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we thought with the

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um with with neurons but is a microstructure within the brain these quantum tubules

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that get shut down when

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there's anesthesia and so there's this new controversial sort of emergent

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theory of consciousness which is

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that when you are awake you go from being a wave to a particle you in other

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words the whatever you want

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to call it the i am the um all one situation that we actually are experiencing

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gets compressed into a

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particle which is your experience of reality but when you fall asleep when you

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take enough acid you go

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into a superposition when that's that feeling of being connected to everything

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part of everything not

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even being there anymore so we're those things simultaneously and and and i

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guess as far as the

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default reality that you're talking about that's a situation where it's a bunch

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of particles that have

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focused in on a on like a buffet of um moments that the news curates so the

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news is like okay beam

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out at this person this person's wrong this person's right here's what you

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should be afraid of here's a

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celebrity that sucks that's the way we get the news that's it isn't that crazy

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and sponsored by

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pharmaceutical drug companies there you go and everybody else i was watching a

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regular movie the

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other night i was in a hotel and so it was the only thing they had in the hotel

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was regular movies on tv tv

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yeah yeah so i was watching john wick on tv and it's every five minutes oh yeah

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you're bombarded

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with nonsense they stop the show and give you five minutes of nonsense that's

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right just nonsense about

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the and side effects it's unnerving and also when you realize we think the show

20:08

is john wick that ain't

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the show the show is the nonsense that's happening in between john wick because

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when you see go out when

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you're watching a good movie you relax you calm down you open up it's the

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perfect perfect state of

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consciousness to manipulate people i also thought it was incredible that they

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bleeped out all the bad words

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when the commercials were far more offensive

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yeah they bleeped out they bleeped out this i was like i'm like how are they

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going to handle this scene

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because there's this scene where the the russian mobster his uh son uh comes

20:48

home from this job in

20:50

atlantic city and after he did this thing with john wick and uh the guy's like

20:54

who the nobody goes that

20:56

fucking nobody is john wick and it's like the whole setup of john wick and it's

21:02

that nobody i'm like no

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you're gross can't say you took out the but meanwhile you're telling me about a

21:10

bloody

21:11

diarrhea that might kill you if you take this drug yeah you're telling me about

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side effects that are like

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suicide like all kinds of like wild depression anxiety fear violent tendencies

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dude gambling addictions

21:28

this is so when you think about the idea that if you know what a group of

21:33

witches is called a coven

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a group of christians is called a church the idea is sort of simultaneous

21:41

prayer causes change now

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there's different words for some people call the prayer spells some people call

21:47

the prayer a pep

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rally we're gonna go go go you look at the football game you're seeing covens

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of witches cheering to

21:56

direct energy at the team they want to try to like move the needle a little bit

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but when you consider

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the power of directing little bubble universes which is every single human

22:09

focusing that beam of attention onto certain ideas dude you could you're you're

22:15

not only are you going

22:16

to create whatever it is you want to create in the case of an advertiser make

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some money

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but um theoretically you could guide history that way and the and the last

22:26

thing you want them

22:27

to figure out is if they all stop focusing on what you're telling them to focus

22:32

on and trust themselves

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enough to focus on what they want to focus on which is usually not bad then all

22:38

of a sudden you would

22:39

lose that kind of magical control you lose the actual steering wheel of the uh

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of the weird vehicle

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we're in you know and and we you know they're like it's democracy the steering

22:51

wheel is your vote and

22:52

the president and the elected officials who guide the country but the real

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steering wheel is here's what

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we're going to get you to pay attention to you need to pay attention to this

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right now and if we all

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pay attention to that it like where attention goes energy flows you know you

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know what i think it is

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i think it's like if we're in a factory if we're in a factory and there's

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certain gears that turn

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certain machines and they think they're the only thing that exists yeah but it's

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a chain of

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things that have to take place in order to manufacture something like a tesla

23:30

yeah like imagine if you are

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if if we just don't realize it but if everything has a consciousness at least

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in some sort of a

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limited capacity yeah literally everything even tables yeah everything has some

23:43

thing we're just we

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are we're super egotistic and we believe that only we possess this but we know

23:48

dogs have it too which

23:49

which gets where it gets weird yeah animals have it we know that you know but

23:53

this whole thing that

23:57

we're doing is trying to understand how we we interface like how are we doing

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this like

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if if we're in a world where it's 2024 and there's drones flying over new

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jersey and they're gaslighting

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us saying they're all airplanes they're saying we have it under control yeah

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and then it appears there

24:20

was a satellite that we shot out of the sky yeah have you seen that no no you

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haven't seen that i missed

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it so this is the big conspiracy and again i have done no research so do not

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believe me ladies and

24:31

gentlemen okay elf the big conspiracy is that these are chinese drones and they're

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being piloted by a

24:40

satellite that they shot out of orbit that's the and this is a conspiracy unfounded

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conspiracy unfounded

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but i'm just for funsies for funsies well i mean do you remember when those

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weird green lights

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showed up in hawaii well i remember where there was a ship right and there was

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like these triangle

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looking things that were flying over a ship laser lights that shot out of the

25:02

sky oh yeah remember that

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that's right that's right what was that what are the drones i mean that's what's

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what i love about the

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drones is i mean aside from the obvious like you know getting to imagine fantasize

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it could be they're

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chasing orbs and the orbs or whatever what i love about the drones is that it's

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another step in shaking

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people awake you know what i mean because it's like part of living in default

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reality i think

25:31

is you sort of lean into the idea that the government is you could trust you

25:36

can trust the government of

25:38

course like you have to trust the people that make the weapons you could trust

25:41

them they're really

25:42

guys good guys short yes some of them you know are hyper violent a little yeah

25:48

but ultimately we can

25:50

trust these people and so then you have over new jersey experimental vehicles

25:56

that people are filming

25:58

welcome to earth did you see that one and it's so funny people in new jersey

26:03

reacting to them

26:04

did you see the guy shooting into the sky at the drone yeah of course i mean i'm

26:09

surprised more

26:10

people haven't well the problem with that you idiots is that bullets fall okay

26:15

and they fall with

26:16

almost the same kind of velocity i mean i'm sure they lose they lose a lot of

26:21

steam but it's enough to

26:22

kill people people have definitely died from bullets falling you know what else

26:25

falls drones experimental

26:27

fucking drones the government's flying over fucking new jersey hoping those

26:31

fuckers don't crash they're

26:32

apparently half the size of a car some of them are bigger bro some of them are

26:36

suburban size yeah

26:37

and these are like suv size flying over houses oh yeah so it's just like no

26:41

listen number one most of

26:43

what you guys are seeing it's stars or you're seeing uh commercial vehicles

26:49

yeah mostly and and the other

26:51

stuff we don't really know and so then at that point you're like wait a minute

26:56

i'm paying almost half of

26:57

my income in taxes so you know what the car size mystery things flying over the

27:04

cities are and you

27:05

don't know what that is what am i paying you for you know what i mean you're

27:10

making a lot of money man

27:12

you should know what the drones are and so but then when you see what's his

27:16

name bolt is it bolden the

27:18

guy with the mustache not bolden when you see i don't know the dod dudes up

27:23

there

27:23

and the way that they're just lying their asses off did you see the press

27:28

secretary talking about

27:29

it and she's wearing a necklace that looks like a ufo is it kareen jean pierre

27:34

that lady not

27:35

jean pierre it was another one it was something a new one it was how do they

27:38

just shuffle new people

27:40

in without announcing no i don't think they got rid of pierre okay i hope not

27:44

because most of

27:44

them don't last as long as pierre she's she's like the marathoner oh dude most

27:49

of them they quit

27:49

that job they're like this job i just gotta lie all the time horrible imagine

27:56

like dunkin this is

27:56

what you're gonna sell war with sudan okay okay here's the reason why all right

28:00

the rebels children

28:02

problems problems um economy okay um pollution okay you know we gotta vaccinate

28:08

them got you can tell

28:10

this there's a lot of data right now but i got them what about the data showing

28:14

vaccinations are

28:15

bad for you no no no that data these these people are in trouble and we need to

28:19

help them we need

28:20

to help them so war sudan war sudan war sudan got it okay no problem okay i got

28:25

it i'm going out

28:26

you just put on your rachel maddow glasses the rachel maddow glasses everybody's

28:33

wearing them to look

28:34

super serious well this is it's part of the costume isn't it like and you know

28:38

you know we also by the

28:40

wearing costumes while we're saying this yeah we are in elf costumes but you

28:45

know but yeah that i don't

28:47

understand the rachel maddow glasses phenomena but i have done research into it

28:53

because i wanted to create a

28:55

vision board of all the people wearing those glasses and it's a thing it's like

29:00

a thing on the left

29:01

they wear those glasses that identifies that you are you have a certain set of

29:06

beliefs if you're

29:07

wearing the maddow glasses i mean it's a real thing it is a real thing yeah if

29:11

you if you have

29:11

those glasses on and you're republican you're an assassin like you're a guy who

29:17

kills people for a living

29:19

yeah you're a very strange person dude isn't that but that's to me the invasion

29:24

of the body snatchers

29:25

experience i love have you seen that movie in a while it's the remake i i saw

29:30

the remake but it was a long

29:32

time ago right wasn't like five years ago how long ago this i think it's from

29:35

the one i like is from

29:36

the 70s oh the donald sutherland one yes yes that one's amazing amazing yeah

29:42

right they point at you

29:43

and make that noise oh yeah that's it oh my god sutherland killing it look how

29:50

creepy his eyes are

29:52

yeah that's it bro imagine can you imagine you imagine that reality and by the

30:00

way not that hard you know

30:02

what's way harder than that building a planet right yeah right there's plenty

30:06

of planets yeah that is

30:08

not that hard that is essentially what happens all the time yeah in like the

30:12

insect kingdom where they

30:13

get infested by another parasite that controls their brain there you go dude i

30:18

went down a deep rabbit

30:20

hole with this because you know i was like looking right after trump won which

30:24

by the way can i want

30:25

to remind you i'm sorry i don't want to pat myself on the back but when we were

30:28

hunting for bigfoot

30:30

do you remember i said to you one day you're gonna get a president elected did

30:34

you say that no

30:35

back then that would have been the least likely scenario i'm in the woods with

30:42

the fear factor guy

30:43

and we're legitimately looking for bigfoot legitimately legitimately with bigfoot

30:51

experts

30:51

that was one of my favorite camping trips i've ever had in my life fun i would

30:55

love to do that again

30:56

hunting for bigfoot it's like because hunting for animals which i know you love

31:00

i have nothing against

31:01

it but you still got to kill an animal hunting for bigfoot you just like look

31:06

for a twig out of

31:07

place and you get to imagine he's nearby and that that it's really fun squatching

31:12

is fun somebody asked

31:13

me if uh i saw bigfoot would i kill it because if i could kill it then i could

31:18

show people that it's real

31:21

interesting interesting would you no why would i kill bigfoot well but just

31:26

like why would you do

31:28

that it doesn't make any sense just to prove that it's real well guess what

31:31

guess we can't prove it

31:32

there's no other way it's not like i tell you where it happened and you close

31:36

off a thousand square miles

31:38

and start pushing in with soldiers well if don't kill it why would you kill it

31:43

stupid i'm telling you where

31:44

it is why do you want me to shoot an arrow through it you know man why don't

31:47

you just trust me and spend

31:48

a billion dollars on on drones and imagine like why did we spend all this money

31:53

oh joe said he saw

31:54

bigfoot and so we weren't looking but by the way no one would spend any money

32:00

to go look for bigfoot

32:01

if you can fly a swarm of drones over new jersey you could find bigfoot you

32:07

could fly them in the

32:07

pacific northwest and we'd know once and for all see this you know they talk

32:11

about democracy and we

32:13

sometimes i like to think about what would actual democracy look like and you

32:18

know it wouldn't look

32:18

like some dude getting in front of a microphone and gaslighting your ass about

32:23

experimental craft it

32:25

would be like all right i'm just going to tell you guys we figured out anti-gravity

32:30

that's anti-gravity

32:32

drones we wanted to show you and tomorrow we're going to drop ketamine on on

32:36

the neighborhoods

32:38

democracy but uh but you know what i mean like that would be true democracy

32:45

versus what we have

32:46

right now which is sort of democracy it does work the voting works and all that

32:51

stuff but ultimately

32:53

our impact the the non-political class's impact is very little and the

32:59

political class's impact is

33:01

very little when you consider now there's a security class so you have the

33:05

politicians like harry reed

33:06

trying to figure out what the is going on with the uaps and even they can't do

33:11

it because there's

33:12

another level in that level is like that's that those are the people

33:17

controlling things because

33:18

they know the secrets it's just so infuriating to me that now they feel

33:23

comfortable enough to fly

33:26

whatever the these things are over a major city and not tell us what they are

33:31

and then say we don't know

33:32

what they are because if the reality is they don't know what they are if we're

33:36

going to believe them

33:37

which i guess you're not just not supposed to

33:42

you know what are you supposed to i no i don't think you're supposed i think at

33:45

the point where

33:46

they're just telling you it's like stars okay but let's be honest if you are in

33:52

possession of the

33:53

actual information you know what it is you know it's china or you know it's

33:58

aliens or you know it's a

34:00

combination of both yeah or it's u.s government or it's all three sure maybe it's

34:05

all the above how the

34:06

fuck do you tell people that how do you tell people that why you're also

34:10

governing you're also doing

34:12

all these different things you're very busy how do you how does the president

34:16

get on television and

34:17

say ladies and gentlemen aliens are real you just do it we are being visited on

34:23

a regular basis by

34:25

non-human intelligence that is far superior to our own sure we don't understand

34:29

why they're here

34:31

we've been working with them we have back engineered their products and that's

34:35

how you got fiber optics

34:36

yeah and capacitors right and all these things that sort of emerged yeah after

34:41

roswell yeah everything

34:42

that's the most fun one you were bioengineered they you know they seeded your

34:47

culture with your

34:48

religions everything it's for a good cause everything yeah you you we're a

34:52

piece of the factory dude

34:55

that's what we are right we're a piece of the factory that doesn't recognize

34:58

that there's a whole

34:59

other building connected to this that's filled with machines yeah we're a piece

35:04

that's well that's

35:05

so okay so that is exactly what you want pieces of your factory to think like

35:12

and that is why

35:13

at any moment anybody can actually just turn the channel you're not you're not

35:18

a piece of the

35:19

fucking factory actually you're the universe you are the universe and and you're

35:23

the universe who has been

35:25

dude i mean look what they look what they could do to lions at a circus deadly

35:31

fucking thing they can

35:32

make it jump through hoops they can make it catch a frisbee right so most of

35:38

the time hey that's right

35:40

when they can't those those make for some wild instagram videos oh they do and

35:45

when there's a lot of

35:46

those out there there is it's the assassination of a fucking ceo and by the way

35:51

like i am not like

35:52

assigning any kind of like um i i think it's a slippery slope if we start

35:57

publicly executing ceos like if

36:00

you start that you know what i mean that's a that's a real slippery slope super

36:03

slippery but i'll tell you

36:05

if you sort of look at the factory uh the way it works is like you're number

36:11

one you you really

36:12

aren't supposed to identify the actual like what's causing like a lot of

36:17

suffering like you that what

36:18

you once you start making those identifications um then uh and you follow

36:23

through with some kind of

36:25

action based on those identifications number one the action can't be the based

36:29

on the rules of the

36:30

factory of course the factory is going to create up create rules you can go out

36:34

with your signs or

36:35

whatever if you're at the right place not at amazon where they arrested those

36:39

people protesting but

36:41

there's places in the factory where you can go and be like i need more oil i'm

36:46

squeaking but but only

36:47

once in a while and only in the right way it's a peaceful protest is what we

36:51

call it you do it at

36:52

the wrong time it's a insurrection you know what i mean so the factory's got

36:57

rules about how we do this

36:58

right so the moment you go outside of those rules the moment you like actually

37:03

and to do that you

37:04

you have to somehow really think outside the factory then then you see

37:08

something like that happen and

37:10

then you see the way the factory responds which is the perp walk they did with

37:15

that dude they've got

37:16

fucking seal team six walking that guy in he's handsome he's like a movie it's

37:21

like yeah in a movie if you

37:23

saw that handsome guy getting arrested and there was like seal team six behind

37:26

him protecting him yeah you'd be

37:28

like that's no way they would do that that's right it's just a regular killer

37:32

yeah there's no way they

37:33

would have that many guys guarding that guy well they're not guarding that guy

37:37

look at that they're

37:37

sending a fucking message they're saying listen we will surround you and and

37:42

like that so because like

37:44

what's really scary about what he did is like and and i think if you if you

37:50

want to like take murder

37:52

cold-blooded murder and just for a second call it activism what that guy did is

37:57

he didn't just like

37:58

you know send a message which is really scary for people like ceos which is

38:04

saying listen man like

38:05

you can't keep us uh with the insurance uh if you do you're not safe and so

38:14

that's scary as

38:15

fuck because that that's the ceos of course are the ones who pay for the lobbyists

38:19

who pay for the laws

38:20

and so he sends a message of a methodology which again i i think uh if we if we're

38:27

going to get into

38:28

a better place you using violence i i i just don't think that's the path but

38:37

just as an analysis dude

38:39

i would say you could expect more of that to happen and and and that is going

38:44

to lead to

38:45

the darth vader people coming out more yeah you're not cosigning it i'm not cosigning

38:50

it at all no

38:50

no no no no but it's it's a realistic assessment like there's something going

38:54

on people are very

38:55

upset and they've been able to do this to people for so long deny people

39:00

treatment for so long like

39:02

you remember when your dad had to come downstairs like you're up or you're you're

39:06

like misbehaving

39:08

with your brother you're doing something really bad you set something on fire

39:11

right your dad comes

39:12

downstairs he's been at work he's pissed that's how you know you're really when

39:17

people

39:17

start doing stuff like that then the dad has to come downstairs and when the

39:21

dad comes downstairs

39:22

it looks like the dudes in the darth vader outfits all of a sudden this you

39:27

know this facade for a

39:29

second they have to stop the show turn on the lights these guys in full body

39:35

armor

39:35

come out spray chemicals into your face and drag you away and then all right

39:40

start the show up again

39:41

start the show up again it gets memory hold so that that is an example of what

39:47

happens when the factory isn't balanced and right now the factory is imbalanced

39:52

dude it's just that's

39:53

the problem there's a reason we need the middle class there's a reason you need

39:56

some path forward

39:58

that is there's a reason you need to be able to buy a house and aside from like

40:03

the human comfort

40:04

and starting a family and all that stuff the moment you pull that away from

40:08

people now what it's like

40:10

so wait they're what am i supposed to do here now again i i am not advocating

40:19

violence i i think that

40:20

if we keep doing violence we're going to keep getting violence but it's a

40:24

really scary thing when

40:26

shit gets so imbalanced and when you hear about like the insure health

40:30

insurance like i'm lucky because

40:32

like i'm on this i'm on crap populace on fox i have incredible health insurance

40:37

dude but like you read

40:38

about the people denying like really important medication really important

40:45

procedures to people

40:47

sending them stacks of of paper explaining why we're not going to pay you know

40:54

i got my colonoscopy

40:56

recently it cost me a hundred dollars you know how much they charge my

40:59

insurance company nine thousand

41:01

dollars have you ever talked to brigham bueller about this no you should you

41:05

know because he

41:06

he understands it from top to bottom he he can tell you exactly what's going on

41:12

he's talked about on

41:13

the podcast but it's you know it's a giant machine it's a giant money machine

41:18

that's right that's really

41:19

what it is it's not really about making you better it's about it's a giant

41:23

money machine that's right

41:24

making you better is what they sell yeah but it's about making more money that's

41:27

right and and they

41:29

can make incredible amounts of money for surgeries that maybe you don't need

41:33

yeah you know i'm not

41:35

saying everybody does it but some people do it it's been it's this there's a

41:38

guy that just got arrested

41:39

recently i don't know if you heard about this guy um i sent this to peter i

41:43

could send to you jamie

41:45

or maybe you could find it this dude um he was telling people they had cancer

41:51

and they didn't

41:52

and it was like a ton of cases and he would give them chemotherapy man and he'd

41:58

make them like

41:59

severely ill yeah demon he did it to like i don't i don't remember the number

42:04

because i think the

42:05

number stunned me so much i didn't want to remember it but this guy told a ton

42:10

of people they had cancer

42:11

just scared the out of them ruined their lives dude and then gave them poison

42:17

yeah that's designed to

42:18

kill cancer is it a few like 10 years old it could have been um uh someone sent

42:24

it to me on uh

42:25

instagram it was a news story oh my god he got 45 that's all he got was 45

42:31

years

42:32

this is pretty long 13 counts he's 50 that's a that's a life sentence um well

42:39

yeah man i don't know

42:41

if this is the same guy maybe more doctors you know this is one of the things

42:46

that i found out i was

42:47

doing a bit about this fertility clinic doctor that was using his own jizz that's

42:53

not one there's not

42:54

one case there's a fucking shit ton of cases like i wonder how many of these

42:58

doctors

42:59

were there's there's creepy doctors that just like there's creepy carpenters

43:06

like just like

43:06

there's you know like some some doctors don't give a about people why do they

43:10

use their own jizz

43:11

there is they do they run one of the babies they want everyone to have their

43:14

baby oh so it's not

43:16

just psychos people aren't coming in no there's women that went in with her

43:20

husband's jizz and he's

43:21

like yeah i got a better option for you sweetheart that's what this guy did he

43:26

did dude he ran a

43:27

fertility clinic and i think people started figuring out when 23andme came

43:31

around and this is just one

43:33

of these guys there's been a ton of those guys yeah that fundamentally is the

43:38

difference between men and

43:39

women could could you imagine a clinic where a woman was getting other people

43:47

to carry her babies

43:49

that's hilarious yeah not a chance in the world no woman would want that yeah

43:55

take my baby oh you

43:56

take my baby i trust it with you you don't the guy i don't even know have a

44:01

baby with me i have the

44:02

most precious thing you could have it you can have it you could have it it's

44:06

literally the fundamental

44:08

difference between men and women that a guy could run a sperm clinic and think

44:12

that i'm gonna get

44:13

away with everybody having my babies and he doesn't give a what happens to

44:18

those kids because they

44:19

might they might they might not know they might find out to 23andme they're

44:24

their cousins yeah like

44:26

holy we're cousins then you find out everyone's a cousin because this creep's

44:30

been just using his own

44:31

jizz for 35 years that guy could be like you know based on the depopulation

44:36

that's happening based

44:37

on population decline that guy could be like the next gingas khan like in the

44:41

future like

44:42

80 of the planets related to this dude i think he's got a lot of catching up to

44:49

do to get

44:49

where gingas khan's numbers were i mean how much it is interesting it's like

44:53

you know you you read elon

44:55

musk is the top diablo player in north america right which i think in the world

45:00

dude in the world i think

45:01

he's the number one in the world which is insane and dude and i know you and

45:07

and i i'm not trying

45:08

to high road you here but unless you've played diablo 4 you can't understand

45:14

what that means i absolutely

45:17

accept that i do not understand what that means it is insane like it like when

45:21

i was addicted to that

45:23

game like i just wasn't sleeping because you know i had to do dad duty in the

45:27

day diablo at night

45:29

and i was i sucked so when you realize this guy shooting rockets into space

45:36

making e-vehicles

45:38

starting a new department of the government is also the top it's the it's so

45:46

crazy it's the one time

45:48

i actually let myself think maybe he actually is an alien because there is no

45:54

there's just no way

45:55

unless he's paying people to do it for him which obviously he's not that that

45:59

is insane man that is

46:01

insane so dude when you when you consider i don't even know where i was going

46:05

with that i got lost in

46:07

diablo 4 just thinking about it well we're just talking about how he was the

46:10

number he's the number

46:11

one player that elon that how how preposterous it is it's it no it's that i don't

46:17

know i i don't

46:17

play diablo 4 so i really don't know what that means but i believe it's huge

46:22

you know what i'm saying

46:23

like i don't it's crazy it's crazy because you know diablo 4 it's all about

46:27

your build it's all about

46:28

like it eye hand coordination is obviously a big part of it but then it's just

46:36

and then you see the chopsticks catch the rocket yeah oh that's a side job

46:41

side job he's had more space innovation in the last five years than nasa has

46:47

since the apollo missions

46:49

it's amazing i mean i'm just saying that i don't know if it's a true number

46:54

but he gets rockets to land and rockets get caught with robot arms like what

47:00

and that to me it's like

47:01

my god you know you get those feelings like okay i'm on the right timeline

47:04

because if the guy

47:06

who's going to make us a galactic civilization is also a master diablo player

47:11

the number one

47:12

we're in the right timeline

47:14

it seems so unlikely that if it was in a movie i'd go shut the up he's not the

47:23

number

47:23

one diablo player i don't care how smart he is with rockets and electric cars

47:28

and satellites that give

47:30

broadband internet and tunneling under the earth and also owns x it's

47:36

suspicious i must say it's and he's

47:40

tweeting 48 times an hour he's he's so prolific it's like where where's your

47:47

head one of the um it's

47:49

like he's like he's in another dimension he could be he could be by locating

47:52

like this is one of the ideas

47:54

is where where are you actually physically is this a is this an avatar

47:58

okay here's an here's something i just he fully believes it's simulation by the

48:03

way oh he does oh

48:04

fully not only does he say fully but he says the chances of it not being a sim

48:09

he said this publicly the

48:10

sand chances of it not being a simulation are in the billions i mean okay so we

48:17

talked about this in

48:18

the green room willow the new quantum chip that google has right so and i think

48:24

you and i both do the

48:25

same thing with our minds like i think anyone who was exposed to the atari 2600

48:29

does this naturally

48:30

which is like we played the atari 2600 did you have an atari when you were a

48:34

kid oh yeah and you

48:36

remember how that blew your mind right yeah you control the thing with the joy

48:39

it was insane you

48:40

can control the tv what the yeah like incredible you'd been going to arcades

48:46

you could only play

48:47

for a second you don't have enough quarters suddenly you could just do it at

48:50

home you could

48:51

play till you fainted oh my god and and so we got to witness like every phase

48:56

of that technology to

48:57

where it is is now which is just insane and uh so you just take the atari 2600

49:03

model and apply

49:04

it to any new thing and so you think all right what's it going to look like in

49:08

10 years then you

49:09

take musk's neural lace or whatever some kind of brain human interface mix that

49:16

in with some quantum

49:18

chip that yeah right now right now it's apparently unstable it's like you got

49:23

to keep it at like you

49:25

have to keep it at the low i don't know what it's called it's like colder than

49:29

space or something like

49:30

it has to be basically below freezing uh and then suddenly it can do things

49:36

that all the supercomputers

49:38

on the planet couldn't do but you know there's a trajectory here between the

49:42

human brain and this

49:43

technology and it's getting closer and closer and closer together meaning that

49:48

we are and you know a

49:49

lot of people are like look that's probably like 20 years away that is not that

49:53

long we are

49:55

when did teen wolf come out man i don't think it's anywhere near 20 years i

49:59

think it's way closer

50:00

than that that's right so that that to me when you when you just do the math

50:04

and you realize humanity

50:08

is about to merge with a thing that is solving equations that all the super

50:14

take a supercomputer

50:16

what is it septillion amount of years that's going to be us yeah and so then to

50:21

answer the simulation idea

50:23

of course we're in a simulation if if we were just monkeys and now we are using

50:29

qubits

50:30

using super positioning to create some infinitely faster way of calculating

50:36

data

50:38

then obviously once we get that thing connected to our brain we will be able to

50:44

simulate any reality

50:47

we want if this is truly our past and you wanted to like right now the way i

50:51

remember something

50:53

having done acid for most of my life is very foggy and kind of like i my memory

50:58

isn't the best

50:58

every once in a while i have a very clear memory of things but with this tech

51:02

theoretically

51:04

it could reconstruct memories in your mind and not just that put you into them

51:08

and allow you to

51:08

experiencing them in real time meaning in a few minutes you could live your

51:12

life over a thousand

51:13

times easily we could just be in we could be in the future and this is a memory

51:19

that some quantum

51:20

computer of neural interface is allowing us to experience uh totally all-encompassing

51:25

memory

51:26

and that would be a form of eternal life because in every second how many lifetimes

51:30

could you live

51:31

based on merging with that kind of chip right and you wouldn't want to know it

51:36

was a memory you

51:37

know you might want to be like you know what let me just live that life over

51:39

again i just want to

51:40

feel the whole thing well you know that's one of the the scariest things for

51:44

people to consider

51:45

is the um there's this i i asked someone once would you rather die or would you

51:55

rather live your life

51:56

over and over and over again forever what'd they say they're like oh my god i

52:03

couldn't do this

52:03

forever and ever and ever i'm like why not can you can you can do it now like

52:07

it's not even hard

52:08

like aren't you enjoying life like i love it i'm having a great time i have

52:12

great friends i have a

52:13

lot of fun lots of amazing things i have a great family i i i enjoy what i do

52:18

for a living like why

52:19

wouldn't i want to keep doing this but the thought of keeping even for me the

52:23

thought of me doing this

52:24

forever and ever and ever is terrifying yeah for some weird reason well that

52:29

was like nietzsche had

52:31

this whole thought experiment which was i don't remember what it's called

52:34

something like infinite

52:35

return but basically the way he put it is you don't live it again and again and

52:40

again and make changes

52:41

within the echo it's exactly the same over and over and over again and and so

52:46

in other words like

52:47

whatever you it's just a it's a rerun over and over over again forever that's

52:51

what we're in and his

52:53

point in that was like therefore if most of your life you've been miserable you're

52:59

in hell

53:04

dude i know oh but he wanted to use that more as a kind of uh to to leverage

53:10

people out of despondency

53:12

to make them understand get going now make it happy now because if we do repeat

53:18

uh yeah but dude i did

53:20

by all this measure of talking about like quantum computers and artificial

53:25

intelligence and all these

53:26

emerging things isn't it more likely than that a lot of this that people are

53:32

seeing is human created

53:34

because isn't it more likely that if we really do get to some sort of quantum

53:39

computer ai

53:40

civilization so you attach quantum computer with ai like 20 years from now like

53:46

what does that even

53:47

mean did you just make a god and if you did it can this thing just completely

53:53

travel between dimensions

53:56

and understand like everything about every sum atomic subatomic particle that

54:01

exists in the entire universe

54:03

yeah all at once like and if that's the case like why do you need people

54:07

anymore and maybe you don't

54:08

just make like maybe australiapithecus isn't around anymore that was our guy

54:13

right he was our guy if it

54:14

wasn't for him we wouldn't be here allegedly well i mean i think the model you

54:18

could use for that theory

54:19

would be the the the various like you look at the an embryo

54:27

and then you you watch the way the appendages change then you could look at it

54:33

that way which

54:33

is like well i mean you don't want i met someone who had a tail by the way like

54:38

what some people

54:39

get born

54:39

i think i was at that party

54:45

he had a tail it's because something happens how big was it i didn't look at it

54:55

what did it taste

54:55

like oh cinnamon it tasted like cinnamon and whiskey yeah dudes are born with

55:02

like a stub right you know

55:04

like a regular tailed monkey billy look at this ass tail yeah but there's

55:07

something to it something

55:08

there so you know that if you yeah there it is there you go god it's so weird

55:15

there you go that is

55:16

like an ancient city by the way if you're born with a tail i'm not trusting you

55:19

with my taxes oh come

55:21

on i don't care if you got the surgery well it's weird others like some of

55:25

those tails look better than

55:26

others but some of them are clearly i've got to be fake yeah some people

55:30

probably got surgically put

55:31

the take off my big toe and stick it on my ass i'm afraid to look it's psychos

55:36

out there dude that

55:38

your alliance bit i still think about it sometimes what would you do if you had

55:42

a tail like give me a

55:43

break if you could get like if they you know they they're already getting these

55:47

body suits you can

55:48

wear to help help you lift they have the new things for your legs that like oh

55:52

yeah you know

55:52

but dude if there was some cyborg tail that you could attach with a belt what

55:57

if there was a way

55:59

what if uh genetic engineering and ai merge in a way like duncan we can switch

56:04

you one time

56:05

to anything you want and one of the options is you could become one of the navi

56:10

what are the navi the navi from the movie avatar avatar i'm not i don't want to

56:16

be a navi the blue

56:17

people not interested giant giant blue people who live in the forest and they

56:21

sleep in the trees

56:21

and they're connected to the earth and they dance together in a psychedelic

56:25

ritual i'm gonna pass on

56:26

the navi i don't like dragons they ride dragons bro i don't i don't know man

56:31

dude i wanted to be one

56:33

of them people so bad everybody did there's there was literally a psychological

56:37

condition called avatar

56:38

depression do you know about that yeah i do how many people just let's just

56:42

have a guess if i said

56:44

we could do that to you how many people do you think would sign up i think the

56:48

streets would be

56:48

filled with giant blue people well i mean if it's only once you have to stay we

56:54

can't do it again

56:56

it's too dangerous your dna gets volatile it melts down you can become a frog

57:00

we can't control it

57:01

but we can switch you one time yeah it's not going to be one time man it's not

57:05

one time

57:06

one time why because you either you either stay a person or you become a werewolf

57:11

or we turn you

57:13

into a navi imagine imagine if that was an option every time the moon goes

57:18

black you have to lock

57:19

yourself in your house yeah or you'll kill people know or you or you can be

57:22

everybody apart you might

57:24

just jump through the windows of the second floor and roam the streets and it's

57:27

gonna hurt when you

57:28

change it's a painful transformation oh yeah you're screaming in your back

57:31

remember the movie american

57:32

werewolf in london when he's like on his back dude the best oh my god joe a

57:39

great movie

57:40

here's a movie you gotta watch really the substance what is that dude i don't

57:45

want to ruin it for people

57:46

because it just came out but it's um you ever watch any like cronenberg movies

57:52

okay so it's a it reminds

57:54

me of that it's got demi moore in it who by the way looks so great and she's

57:59

like like dude it is so

58:02

fucked up this movie is so fucked up but it's got the effects uh something that

58:06

happens in it is very

58:08

similar to an american werewolf in london and it's basically this star is she's

58:14

a fading star and so um

58:16

oh and he kills it too but like she's like a fading star so it's called the

58:21

substance oh my god it's

58:22

fucking trippy man it's so good i'm gonna make a note duncan you will love it

58:27

no i can't use i have

58:29

to take my gloves off but it's really wild man and it's very dis like there's

58:34

parts of it they're so

58:35

disturbing really oh maybe they're gonna show it the substance no spoilers what

58:41

you've seen it no but

58:43

like if you say it's that good then why okay yeah yeah no spoilers i'm sorry so

58:47

what is it on again

58:49

uh we had to get it on prime oh okay so it's out it's out but dude like the the

58:54

this is again like

58:55

and i think one of the fun things about being alive right now it's a fun time

59:01

and one of the might be

59:02

the funnest time anybody's ever had dude really because like if i had to pick

59:06

time periods oh we

59:08

picked the right one well the second one i would pick is uh when cocaine was

59:13

legal

59:13

i think you would have been dead already i would well yeah but i mean i tell

59:19

you about my buddy steve

59:20

who did his ophthalmology uh he he was um his residency he did in miami in the

59:26

80s during the cocaine days

59:29

no oh my god dude he said every day it was just gunshot wounds and guys with

59:33

things stuffed up

59:35

their ass they would get coked up and they'd shove something up their ass and

59:38

try to come harder

59:40

and they just got things stuck up their ass wow that's a problem joe's oh yeah

59:45

dude he

59:45

my friend shout out to steve graham he told me like all kinds they find light

59:51

bulbs guys that have

59:52

light bulbs twisty little pine coney light bulbs they stick those up their ass

59:56

but you know it's

59:57

gonna break like that's gonna break part of the fun part of the fun the the the

1:00:02

risk yeah well

1:00:03

they're coked out of their minds dude they don't know what they're doing this

1:00:07

is the 80s in miami

1:00:09

holy yeah and there was more more banks per capita in miami at the time i don't

1:00:17

know if it's still

1:00:17

the case but more banks in miami per capita than anywhere else in the country

1:00:22

because it was all just moving in that yayo son moving in that yayo yeah it was

1:00:29

a cocaine city

1:00:30

that was where it was probably somewhat common to find like a bag of coke on

1:00:35

the beach right that was

1:00:36

where every day you'd have to get your kid yeah your kid would bring you a bag

1:00:41

of coke like seashells

1:00:42

you've seen cocaine cowboys right yes oh my god it's so and both one and two

1:00:50

both are equally good dude

1:00:52

i've heard that story is so insane i mean again like the i would never i i'm

1:00:57

too much of a

1:00:59

pussy to live that kind of lifestyle but when you think about the possibility

1:01:03

that once we do

1:01:05

get interfaced in some way or another with these new computers that are just

1:01:09

right around the corner

1:01:11

uh we will be able to simulate experiences like that yes i will definitely i

1:01:18

would be into simulating the

1:01:19

experience and then when you consider yeah but you're going to simulate the

1:01:23

experience you know it's

1:01:24

a simulation at some point you're gonna be like you know what let's just turn

1:01:29

that off where i know

1:01:30

it's a simulation you know what i mean we would all be doing that like yeah and

1:01:36

i don't just mean like

1:01:36

literally like i mean at some point you've done 20 000 lifetimes you've

1:01:42

experienced what it's like to be

1:01:43

george washington genghis khan you've experienced what it's like to be joan of

1:01:47

arc you've experienced

1:01:49

being one of jesus's disciples imagine if that's one person and that's your

1:01:53

backstory that you've done

1:01:55

all of those things what a timeline you're on that's going to be everybody that's

1:01:58

going to be everybody

1:01:59

because it's going to be fake well i mean is it into it that that's where it's

1:02:03

really right is it

1:02:04

is it going to be what is reality anyway and what is data right what is data

1:02:08

that's the real question

1:02:09

because it's like how much of data can we recover from light and if we get

1:02:13

faster than light travel

1:02:14

can we get ahead of light we know that when we take a picture that's just light

1:02:18

so if we can get ahead

1:02:19

of light and we can go faster than light if we go exponentially faster than

1:02:23

light theoretically you're

1:02:24

you're basically moving into the future i guess then couldn't you take pictures

1:02:29

of earth in the past

1:02:30

if you could take pictures of earth in the past why couldn't you recreate them

1:02:34

with this new technology

1:02:35

there's your time machine you're not you don't have to worry about up the

1:02:38

timelines

1:02:39

you're just taking pure data having it interpolated by whatever the next

1:02:44

computer is after quantum

1:02:45

computers right and then simulating that reality and traveling into it as

1:02:50

whoever you want to be i mean

1:02:52

it's pure uh hedonism you know it's like right now we think of hedonism as a

1:02:58

great meal making some

1:03:00

money nice car red wine but future versions of hedonism could really just be

1:03:06

like i just want to be a

1:03:07

dinosaur for 50 years

1:03:09

yeah i mean for sure well there's going to be look think about how many people

1:03:20

play video games most

1:03:21

of the day like how many young guys so many young guys with no girlfriends 100

1:03:27

you're playing some kind

1:03:28

a video game absolutely all the time with your friends there you go and you're

1:03:31

probably having

1:03:32

the most fun you're ever going to have in your life so enjoy it yeah before the

1:03:35

prison comes

1:03:36

why why'd you say it before you get told that you're a toxic piece of you can't

1:03:45

and that is by

1:03:45

the way i think there's a new phase in recently married dudes who um i think

1:03:52

there's a new phase that

1:03:52

happens i think i i went through it actually which is like that experience you

1:03:56

had and when i reminisce

1:03:58

on my life in the past prior to having kids which i love but when i reminisce

1:04:02

on the past the the

1:04:05

memories that come to mind a lot of them are like snorting rails of ketamine

1:04:09

and playing god of war

1:04:18

it was good times but nothing like and i really mean this it sounds cheesy but

1:04:22

i really mean it like

1:04:23

what i was going for there that's what i get just on any given day when in the

1:04:30

most right

1:04:31

you're looking for highs and the highs of the love of your family is above and

1:04:35

beyond anything else

1:04:36

unquantifiable you ever tell you uh chapelle's take on it no he goes not only

1:04:41

did it increase

1:04:42

the love in my life but it increased my capacity for love yeah that's right it's

1:04:47

wild and that can

1:04:48

hurt i you know this whole like romantic hippy dippy version of love it doesn't

1:04:54

i don't think

1:04:54

that's quite what love is a fairy tale love real love it's like that that

1:04:59

expansion like you know

1:05:01

that thing where you go from one size butt plug to the next yeah yeah you know

1:05:09

that thing yeah but

1:05:10

you know what i mean it's like you you're you it stretches you out in a way

1:05:14

that nothing else

1:05:16

could have and when you consider in when i think of like the past versions of

1:05:20

me and realize in this

1:05:22

confused way that's what you're looking for you're looking for that and that

1:05:28

impulse is being subverted or

1:05:31

uh captured by you know hedonic technologies that are paradoxically probably

1:05:38

keeping you

1:05:39

from having that experience you know they're they're they're getting in the way

1:05:42

of that experience but

1:05:44

and then and then like new dads you got to shed that skin like you know what i

1:05:48

mean like i had to

1:05:49

like fucking like let go of that that it's such a habit you know that form of

1:05:56

life uh video games

1:05:58

drugs like you know what i mean it's a real it's a real like you have to be

1:06:02

responsible now yeah exactly yeah but

1:06:05

um yeah and that probably sounds like a bummer to a lot of people out there but

1:06:10

it actually this is

1:06:12

the way you know and it feels good when you're in it it's just hard to convince

1:06:18

people to do it and

1:06:19

that's why there's this the elon's terrified of this population crash this idea

1:06:24

that younger kids

1:06:26

uh young kids today are not having babies and as they're getting older you're

1:06:30

less and less fertile

1:06:31

and so people are choosing to have kids later in life they or not have kids

1:06:36

more people are choosing to

1:06:38

not have kids and by the way i'm not judging to do whatever you do whatever you

1:06:42

want you should be able

1:06:43

to do whatever you want in this life and no one should force you to

1:06:45

fucking live with somebody have a family i don't know what kind of anxiety you

1:06:49

have or whether or not

1:06:50

you're a real legitimate loner you like being alone most of the time yeah but

1:06:54

it's just like

1:06:56

the amount of people that are like super bummed out all the time is quite

1:07:01

terrifying yeah if you if

1:07:03

you really stopped and think about that just the number of people that are just

1:07:06

running through life

1:07:07

bummed out i know and there was some obviously polls who knows who the is

1:07:13

running them but there

1:07:14

was some poll about um liberal women and mental illness it's it's so it's such

1:07:21

a meme it's so unfortunate

1:07:24

yeah it seems to like hold up to the meme yeah so unfortunate but the number is

1:07:29

like crazy high

1:07:31

well you know man this is the thing about mental illness like and there's lots

1:07:36

of studies that have

1:07:36

been what what do they call it a folia dude right that's the name for if you

1:07:40

are around a crazy person

1:07:41

it's an you can actually like if you're around a paranoid person long enough

1:07:46

you really might start

1:07:47

thinking the walls are bugged if they're charismatic enough right sure so yeah

1:07:51

there's a there's a quality

1:07:52

to people who are charismatic and distorting reality that is contagious and

1:07:59

then when you add to it it

1:08:02

becomes a fashion statement right so so basically the idea is if you have some

1:08:06

form of

1:08:06

mental illness it's not like i should shame you for it obviously like you need

1:08:11

care you need compassion

1:08:13

but one of the really i think very dangerous things that has emerged into the

1:08:18

zeitgeist is that

1:08:19

compassion has been confused like so in other words they what what you might

1:08:26

call enabling

1:08:27

they are calling compassion because the idea would be you're right now you need

1:08:32

to get better let's get you

1:08:34

better right not like right now this is just how you are and you really don't

1:08:39

have any hope so this is

1:08:41

where and also i congratulate you on your courage and all that's good by the

1:08:48

way it is courageous if

1:08:50

someone has mental illness to announce it but when you go to the next step

1:08:55

which is actually

1:08:58

the fact that you're trying to lose weight the fact that you're trying to

1:09:01

balance your life that is

1:09:05

an aggression you know what i mean like now you are aggressing against all the

1:09:09

people who have this

1:09:10

it is a slap in the face to the people who have it what i'm saying is there's a

1:09:13

culture where the

1:09:15

normal societal pressure to try to make yourself healthy which by the way if

1:09:21

you go back a long

1:09:22

time ago if we're if it's just like you and me and everyone in the green room

1:09:26

and we have to survive

1:09:27

in the wilderness or something like that there really isn't time for somebody

1:09:32

to you know it's dangerous

1:09:35

if someone is doing things that keep them sick because we have to carry them

1:09:39

you know what i mean we have

1:09:40

to carry them through the wilderness and that means we might die that that

1:09:44

lowers our survival chances so

1:09:46

the the the idea is you in a in a you don't want to enable people who are

1:09:54

hurting themselves right

1:09:57

who you don't want to enable people who have a chance to to no longer like

1:10:01

continue the patterns or to

1:10:03

take the medicine or whatever the it is to feel better you actually want to

1:10:08

help them feel better

1:10:10

not keep them frozen in this thing which is a demonstration of their

1:10:14

enlightenment because

1:10:16

that's the thing when health when sickness is health and health is sickness

1:10:21

well that's the ant

1:10:23

death spiral dude like if if right you know that's how you create a very sick

1:10:27

unhealthy world and then

1:10:30

you you know you you wouldn't want like in other words like you if if you met

1:10:35

some like raving

1:10:37

paranoid person who was convinced that there were nanobots inside of them that

1:10:41

were reading their

1:10:42

minds and controlling their thoughts duncan i told you that in private i'm

1:10:45

sorry joe it's just not good

1:10:46

that you think like that that's scary that's a sad place to be we got to get

1:10:50

you out of there

1:10:51

we got to get you on reddit exactly exactly and i nanobots are legit dude shut

1:10:59

the up dude the main

1:11:01

the main this is a this is you know what i'm really scared of legitimately

1:11:05

though i don't think nanobots

1:11:06

are controlling us right now but that this technology that they have where they

1:11:10

have these like little

1:11:11

miniature robots that they can send into your uh bloodstream to repair tissue

1:11:16

and repair you've seen

1:11:17

these right yeah the concept behind it once that becomes an actual thing like

1:11:23

what's to stop someone

1:11:25

from injecting a few of those inside of you at the hospital next time you go in

1:11:30

for a procedure

1:11:31

right and if it gets to that point like 20 years from now where they could do

1:11:34

that they could just like

1:11:35

uh we uh we chip duncan thank you thank you very much yeah very important to

1:11:39

find out yeah where

1:11:41

where this guy goes yeah we have to track him dude everywhere he goes and then

1:11:45

you're linked up to

1:11:46

some gps computer by these nanobots inside of your body and by the way if you

1:11:51

and i are talking about

1:11:52

this shit in elf suits you better believe somebody in the dod somebody in them

1:11:57

and then raytheon or

1:11:58

lockheed martin is like mention these these little little robots they do work

1:12:05

for a while whatever after a while they decay inside your body and they create

1:12:09

rampant inflammation

1:12:11

horrible rheumatoid arthritis destroys all of your joints because they die

1:12:16

inside of you well you know

1:12:18

it's like we didn't know that yeah i didn't know gotta break a few eggs to make

1:12:22

an omelet man that we

1:12:23

regret yeah the tuskegee experiment sorry we regret it sorry sorry we infected

1:12:29

people with syphilis i'm

1:12:31

really sorry didn't tell people they had syphilis we're sorry in retrospect it

1:12:35

was a mistake like we

1:12:36

shouldn't have done that i mean the the again how crazy is that that's a real

1:12:41

thing or when they

1:12:42

release some shit in the subways you know whoopsie whoohan lab whoopsies whoops

1:12:49

that was a big

1:12:50

whoopsies boys gain of function research whoopsie whoopsie no whoopsies it was

1:12:55

true dude so when you

1:12:57

this is where to me if you do want to align with a classic paranoid state of

1:13:02

consciousness

1:13:03

the way you align with it is you you and and without having to go on info wars

1:13:08

without having

1:13:09

to go on reddit conspiracy just look at what is true like is verifiable like

1:13:14

what do we know

1:13:15

right now so what we know right now there are unknown drones hovering over new

1:13:21

jersey we know that

1:13:23

the president of the united states has been incapacitated for years for years

1:13:30

no way

1:13:30

who saw that coming dude we were conspiracy theorists yeah i not anymore we

1:13:37

were conspiracy

1:13:38

theorists now our is like mainstream just basic journalism the president of the

1:13:45

united states

1:13:47

has apparently been out of commission for years by the way i welcome him on my

1:13:52

podcast he has an open

1:13:53

invitation god damn it that'd be awesome anytime and he would he would be fun

1:13:58

like i hope so now

1:14:00

dude we'd have to give him a little nap in the middle of the podcast but then

1:14:03

wake him up throw

1:14:03

some water on him when but when he when when like he's all there when they got

1:14:09

the cocktail right and

1:14:10

he's like dialed in and he turns into a warlock for a second like you get you

1:14:14

know what i mean

1:14:15

it's scary when the eyebrows move up dude it's locks up that's like something

1:14:22

that's a lich that's

1:14:23

like if you were in a cursed tomb and that thing comes around the corner that

1:14:27

is scary like his whatever

1:14:30

the the the sauron that comes out of him before he like goes back to sleep is

1:14:34

terrifying but even more

1:14:36

terrifying is the network of people around him you know you see those uh it's

1:14:42

really cool the dancing

1:14:43

dragons it's like six dudes in a dragon suit dancing and it looks like a real

1:14:49

dragon dancing oh right

1:14:50

right right yeah biden is the dancing dragon of presidents he's got god knows

1:14:56

how many people just

1:14:57

fucking like working so hard to get that thing to to function just in like

1:15:03

brief moments you only need

1:15:06

him to function for like 10 minutes at a press conference 20 minutes here get

1:15:10

him off the plane

1:15:11

get him in the fucking building if we can pull that off we'll have power for a

1:15:14

little bit longer a

1:15:15

little bit longer dude when you consider that we apparently live in a democracy

1:15:21

you elect this dude

1:15:23

who makes decisions because in some way shape or form he aligns with what you

1:15:26

want the country to be

1:15:27

and the people fucking puppeteering that that poor old man are just like no

1:15:33

actually you he's not

1:15:35

going to make any fucking decisions because he's incapacitated he's gone gone

1:15:39

with a fucking wind

1:15:41

and now we're in control and you didn't vote for us that is terrifying that is

1:15:47

so that's it in a way

1:15:49

that's worse than a coup because at least with a coup you see the military they

1:15:54

come in the tanks are

1:15:55

in front of the white house some dude is suddenly the leader and you know it's

1:15:59

not the guy you voted for

1:16:00

well it was certainly by definition it was a coup against biden oh with kamala

1:16:06

yeah oh yeah yeah

1:16:08

i mean by isn't that by definition or does a coup have to be military oh no no

1:16:13

no that was the

1:16:14

definition of a coup i think a coup is just when you is it just like a some

1:16:18

sort of a conspiracy to

1:16:21

overthrow the leader and install a new leader that's it right it doesn't have

1:16:25

to be violent right that's

1:16:26

right and and what a brilliant i love the bell it does have to be violent yeah

1:16:31

a sudden violent

1:16:32

unlawful seizure i guess we have to redefine that yeah because again that's

1:16:36

interesting is there any

1:16:38

other coup d'etat maybe right i know it comes from that but um is there a

1:16:43

difference between a coup

1:16:45

and a coup d'etat what's it no i think it is coup d'etat that's the actual

1:16:48

definition it's the same

1:16:50

it's the same thing i said in violent yeah in america yeah it's it's

1:16:55

essentially we shortened it

1:16:57

um but so it's it it does say violent but if there's a bunch of people that

1:17:03

conspire behind the scenes

1:17:05

and they force you out and your wife doesn't want you to get forced out and

1:17:10

then there's all these

1:17:11

arguments and then you wear a maga hat and then and your wife wears red when

1:17:17

she votes yeah like

1:17:18

yeah you send the signal your wife gives a speech where she's mocking kamala

1:17:24

harris

1:17:25

yeah she's talking about joy and like the joy like just nonsensical

1:17:29

yeah word salad dude i know i saw that it's like they're so pissed it's kind of

1:17:34

a coup it seems like

1:17:35

it's kind of a coup and it also the right thing to do that guy should not be he

1:17:39

might have won

1:17:41

i mean it was the right thing to do in terms of like you can't have a guy

1:17:44

who's just a figurehead that's not what the deal is the deal is this guy is

1:17:51

going to be doing his

1:17:53

best to look out for us and to make sure that he navigates this world of

1:17:57

finance and environment

1:17:59

and international relations perfectly where he doesn't blow anything up and he

1:18:03

makes our economy

1:18:04

happy yeah go go that's the that's the deal yeah well but the again like it

1:18:10

that you can't like have

1:18:11

only a mask like who's running the deal well that was so okay so again it's

1:18:16

like and this is the

1:18:17

fantasy of any hippie or whatever so the idea is um the predicted in the new

1:18:24

age movement and i think

1:18:26

you could argue in a lot of religions would is the consciousness shift is is

1:18:30

happening the age of

1:18:31

aquarius whatever the you want to call it consciousness shift and so um the

1:18:35

idea is that what we're

1:18:37

witnessing is essentially the um the collapse of uh a way of doing things uh

1:18:46

that is collapsing and as it

1:18:49

collapses it starts making big mistakes one big mistake would be people figure

1:18:55

out that we have had a

1:18:58

president who is basically incapacitated meaning we don't really need a

1:19:04

president there the whole model

1:19:06

starts falling apart also when you realize like they like if you watch

1:19:13

basketball or skateboarding watch

1:19:16

skateboarding now versus skateboarding when people started skateboarding like

1:19:21

the tricks like people

1:19:22

are doing now versus what they used to do right and you see how quickly people

1:19:26

when something's fun or

1:19:27

important how quickly it evolves right right so the coup is problematic in that

1:19:33

again you know a coup has

1:19:34

happened the ultimate coup is to have a figurehead now you know the it's a it's

1:19:43

a it's a hacky trope i

1:19:45

guess the idea being that like every president is just a puppet right but the

1:19:50

problem with that puppet

1:19:52

is that like these are puppets who actually do have power they will make

1:19:56

decisions even if there's

1:19:58

a lot of pressure for from god knows whatever the web of unknown people is that

1:20:02

tries to like grab the

1:20:03

the steering wheel they can say no so that's a problem so if i want to control

1:20:09

the steering wheel completely

1:20:11

dude what's better than a a an old man who has dementia because i could tell

1:20:19

him happened that

1:20:20

didn't happen i could show him news sources that aren't even real you know what

1:20:24

i mean i could

1:20:25

literally like you just probably pretends to be able to read his eyes are

1:20:29

probably gone dude absolutely

1:20:31

probably pretends absolutely and and and then the other side of it the aside

1:20:36

from it it's a coup it's

1:20:38

completely unconstitutional it's a a a a fucked up takeover of the u.s

1:20:43

government if you just look at

1:20:45

the abuse of like the right thing to do when you have a president a bus driver

1:20:52

whoever who's got senile

1:20:54

dementia is to say hey guys he's really sick and he can't do the job anymore

1:21:00

and we have to find somebody

1:21:02

else to do the job now that's the right thing to do but these motherfuckers are

1:21:07

like no no no no no

1:21:08

we'll lose our jobs we're in the fucking cabinet exactly they're like we don't

1:21:11

want a primary

1:21:12

because if another democrat comes in if shapiro comes in if newsome comes in

1:21:17

whole new cabinet that's

1:21:18

right that's right everybody knew everybody knew that's it everybody wants to

1:21:21

keep their job it's so

1:21:22

fucked up if even if you are sad that trump won and you wish kamala harris won

1:21:29

if she did win it would be the first time that anybody won without winning a

1:21:34

primary right and

1:21:35

that's kind of crazy and it's not a good precedent to set it's not good to let

1:21:39

people weasel around

1:21:42

this system that we have in place and by having a vice president and then

1:21:45

immediately appointing them

1:21:47

as the democratic candidate that's kind of illegal it seems like it's kind of

1:21:52

illegal is it illegal well

1:21:53

dude i mean should it be how about let me say this that should be illegal right

1:21:58

you you should have to

1:21:59

have a vote from the people to decide who their democratic elected person who's

1:22:04

going to run for

1:22:05

president is right that's the whole deal yeah maybe people didn't vote for you

1:22:12

when you were running

1:22:13

for president which is a fact and so then when you ran for vice president or

1:22:17

when he chose you as

1:22:18

vice president all of a sudden we're supposed to pretend that you're a really

1:22:21

good candidate for

1:22:22

president when like we let's find out what the people think if you guys believe

1:22:27

that she's the best

1:22:28

person for the job the whole idea is supposed to be sell it and then people

1:22:31

vote like really vote

1:22:34

actually vote don't with the vote yeah don't the mail-in ballots seem kind of

1:22:38

odd let's not do that

1:22:39

yeah nixon was talking about how they could be rigged in the 70s yeah let's

1:22:43

just do it in person

1:22:44

like we always do that's right man let's just vote the idea is like if i'm a

1:22:49

kidnapper and i kidnap

1:22:51

you uh and i i don't know knock you out or something you come to and i explain

1:22:56

we're married

1:22:57

i need to pull that off we're now married i've just kidnapped somebody but now

1:23:02

they think that we're

1:23:02

married what i'm saying is uh you know you know if you're gaslighting yeah you

1:23:08

really need to execute

1:23:10

perfectly gaslighting and so the the the problem with the and i think this is

1:23:15

the buried fucking

1:23:16

headline in the drones in the kamala coup the the the the president with senile

1:23:23

dementia is that

1:23:26

all of these actions taken by the federal government have not just corroded

1:23:33

people's trust in the

1:23:35

federal government but potentially like annihilated annihilated it meaning now

1:23:39

yeah you know if i'm

1:23:40

kidnapped by somebody and they're like no here's why i kidnapped you oh god

1:23:44

there's that great movie

1:23:45

where like somebody ends up in someone's survival bunker and you wonder is it

1:23:49

really the end of the

1:23:50

world or is this person kidnapped he's saying you can't go out there but it's

1:23:54

like the idea is uh the

1:23:56

moment if if i've been kidnapped and i actually buy into your that's going to

1:24:00

create a

1:24:00

lot less anxiety for me but the moment your kidnapee stops believing you whoa

1:24:09

that's not fun for anybody

1:24:11

and right now i feel like that's the general mood is people just don't trust at

1:24:16

like when people that

1:24:18

do have stockholm syndrome that's it dude that's it that's it that's it those

1:24:21

are the people that are

1:24:22

still getting boosted you know i am up to date i have all nine of my boosters jesus

1:24:26

christ they got

1:24:27

boosters in their eyeballs you can see them swimming around behind their

1:24:30

eyeballs and eventually they're

1:24:32

going to be just pointing at you you haven't had your boosters that is

1:24:37

six feet distance that's what it felt like man that's what it felt like being

1:24:45

unvaccinated in the

1:24:46

pandemic well it felt like like some people looked at you like you were the

1:24:50

dirty like

1:24:51

i heard dudes i know i know them i've hung out with them and they were calling

1:24:57

people plague rats

1:24:59

plague rats calling unvaccinated people plague rats listen this is um and you

1:25:04

know maybe you're not

1:25:05

supposed to do this like when you're saying like you try to find the the

1:25:08

compassionate way of looking at

1:25:10

kamala harris i try to find that with everybody man as that as like an exercise

1:25:16

that i've been doing

1:25:17

more and more over the last few years i try to push it all day long yeah there's

1:25:24

so many things to get

1:25:25

upset about but there's also there's so there's so many good things in the

1:25:30

world too and we can't fall

1:25:32

into the we're not designed to soak up eight billion people worth of bad news

1:25:37

that's right we're just not

1:25:38

designed that way that's right and if you suck all that stuff in you're gonna

1:25:43

have a lot of negativity

1:25:45

in your life and it's not about forgiving people for like even like cnn people

1:25:50

that are spitting out

1:25:51

propaganda like your demise is self-created you will be punished by your own

1:25:57

doings the world has responded

1:26:00

to all have you seen this crazy interview where don lemon interviews some dude

1:26:04

on the street

1:26:05

no you haven't seen this no the the it's so funny because don lemon's doing

1:26:09

like these on the street interviews

1:26:10

and uh he's talking to this this guy uh about the news and the the guy is

1:26:14

essentially telling don lemon

1:26:16

like i don't trust all these sources you're saying he's like look here it is

1:26:20

washington post

1:26:20

i forget what the subject was but he got don lemon to say i don't listen to

1:26:26

mainstream news either

1:26:28

what yeah yeah yeah play this play this from the beginning because this is so

1:26:33

crazy

1:26:34

who is the real president-elect do you think donald trump one i believe

1:26:41

democratic lawmakers in

1:26:42

washington are calling elon musk president they're saying this is the vice

1:26:46

president or the head of

1:26:48

communications what's what's what's what's wait a second no no one said that

1:26:51

really have you not

1:26:52

watched and paid attention absolutely not i'm paying attention to what i'm

1:26:55

doing during my day

1:26:56

so i can try and get a better life okay do you have your phone with you i do

1:26:59

why don't you google

1:27:00

right now yes tell me president musk and see what comes no but that's already a

1:27:03

loaded question you

1:27:04

realize tell me give me the sources axios business insider we don't trust any

1:27:09

of these the common man

1:27:10

doesn't trust any of these keep going abc news washington post new york the atlantic

1:27:15

oh i don't

1:27:16

trust any of these i don't trust any of them okay i don't trust any of these we're

1:27:19

the common man we

1:27:20

don't trust any of these no one trust is the government no one trusts the

1:27:24

common news we don't

1:27:25

trust any of that anymore independent news we are the ones that own the news

1:27:29

now people trust me they

1:27:30

don't trust msnbc because i can't actually one of them i can't disagree with

1:27:35

you okay well then i get

1:27:37

a lot of people coming to me saying i only watch i don't watch corporate media

1:27:41

right oh he said a lot

1:27:42

of people coming to him i misunderstood i got a heart on when i saw that dude

1:27:45

that is incredible

1:27:46

well that guy just geniusly broke down yeah this illogical assumption that

1:27:53

because it's on these

1:27:54

accepted sources it must be true right like oh he's president musk maybe we

1:27:59

have the good guy super

1:28:01

genius on our side and this idea that he's doing it for money hey you halfwits

1:28:07

he has

1:28:08

all the money yeah he has more money than anybody right he's simultaneously

1:28:13

running multiple businesses

1:28:14

at the that are at the the peak the cutting edge of technology sure shut the up

1:28:21

and

1:28:21

let him cook but let him cook also though when you when you realize like this

1:28:26

is like you know when

1:28:29

the dnc starts astroturfing reddit when the dnc starts astroturfing 4chan when

1:28:36

the dnc started

1:28:37

doing that using all that money and it's so funny because the astroturfing

1:28:41

after she lost it just

1:28:42

stopped explain astroturfing so the idea is like i infiltrate message boards

1:28:47

post uh political messages

1:28:50

disguised as like somebody just putting a post up i try to redirect the

1:28:54

conversation or essentially

1:28:56

imply a um consensus that doesn't exist and so uh there's ways of manipulating

1:29:02

the algorithm

1:29:03

apparently on the dnc's uh discord server they were talking about the best ways

1:29:07

and times to post on

1:29:08

reddit to attempt to move the needle so it's kind of amazing isn't it it should

1:29:14

be illegal it's so

1:29:16

fucked up if like you are full-on propaganda like if if we if i don't know we

1:29:21

did a renegade rogue

1:29:22

commercial for uh nicotine pouches on instagram you have to say this is a

1:29:26

sponsored post so why is it

1:29:29

that if you work for the dnc or volunteer for any state entity you don't have

1:29:34

to say also i'm doing this

1:29:36

as a volunteer for the dnc i that's why i opposed to this you don't have to do

1:29:40

that right so that's

1:29:41

invasion of the body snatchers that's the i'm pretending to be a normal person

1:29:47

i'm infecting

1:29:48

the data sphere with propaganda and if i do it enough it will create the

1:29:54

illusion that this is the

1:29:56

consensus and the reason you want to create that illusion is because people

1:30:00

like to sync up that's

1:30:02

what they know they love to sync up and really smart people like to get really

1:30:06

good at syncing up

1:30:07

they like to get really good at it and really good at correcting others who don't

1:30:11

sync up correctly

1:30:12

there you go sync up yeah and you know what it is it's just dorks it's dorks

1:30:17

and dorks have found

1:30:18

a thing right found a thing maybe your thing could have been chess it's not it's

1:30:22

politics yeah maybe

1:30:23

you know what i mean right like whatever your thing is yeah that's what's

1:30:26

really going on and your

1:30:28

denial of objective reality in order to win it exposes you it exposes you to

1:30:36

people in this new world

1:30:38

that are recognizing that we are the only people that have ever gone through

1:30:45

this and we are in this

1:30:47

insane moment of realization about how much we've been bullshitted and

1:30:54

manipulated in the past

1:30:56

how much of all of our resources are going to things that we would never agree

1:31:01

to yeah and and how much

1:31:03

of this chaos is being pushed upon us by people who are profiting from it in a

1:31:09

fucking spectacular way that's almost indescribable yeah insane amounts of

1:31:17

money in control of the

1:31:19

narrative and it's not working it's not working it's not working it's not

1:31:23

working you and i and jamie

1:31:27

in a fucking room yeah are working right that's not working what they're doing

1:31:32

is not working because

1:31:34

people are getting information from multiple sources now and the sources that

1:31:39

aren't reliable

1:31:41

like that guy listed off they're dying off yeah you know the new york times app

1:31:46

is uh more people

1:31:46

use it for wordle than anything like new york times has essentially become a

1:31:49

gaming company easy

1:31:51

see if that's true i don't want to get sued i'm pretty sure it's true well i

1:31:55

mean wordle is fun i'm

1:31:57

i'm sure it's fine it's a separate app is it a separate app pretty sure or is

1:32:00

it that word i do

1:32:02

mind that's yeah i'm tired of your drinking no thank you i'm kidding is that

1:32:06

what it is um so that

1:32:09

wordle gets more activity for the company that's what essentially yeah there

1:32:13

was a graph i was too

1:32:14

lazy to read the whole graph but it was a breaking down how wordle is more used

1:32:19

than anything well

1:32:20

listen this is true let's make sure that's true otherwise we'll have to cut

1:32:24

this out i don't want

1:32:25

new york times on my ass oh my god that would suck it sucks so bad they've done

1:32:30

it before it's just

1:32:32

that's their job that's their job you know they're just like that shouldn't be

1:32:36

a job where your um

1:32:38

area times games are more popular than its news uh it if that's what you want

1:32:43

it to be but here's

1:32:44

the thing it's not necessary anymore and i think that um through the rise of

1:32:50

independent journalism one of

1:32:51

the things we're really realizing is that all something has someone has to do

1:32:54

is be consistently

1:32:56

objective and intelligent and um post things and post takes on things like coleman

1:33:02

hughes or

1:33:03

some of these people yeah consistently intelligent objective and then you'll

1:33:07

develop a following yeah

1:33:08

and then you'll become a reliable source of news that's right because i know

1:33:11

that if i ask coleman

1:33:13

about x y or z and he's he's informed he's going to give me a very intelligent

1:33:18

breakdown of what it is

1:33:20

there's a few people in my life that are like like andrew huberman if i have

1:33:23

some sort of

1:33:23

health-related question peter atia right i have some sort of like how are they

1:33:27

doing this and what

1:33:28

it what is is this legitimate right and they'll look at it and they'll analyze

1:33:32

it yeah i've sent

1:33:33

huberman stuff and he goes over the data he's like this is fascinating this it

1:33:37

theoretically should work

1:33:38

you know and then this will explain why and what the pathways are and how

1:33:42

interesting this is yeah it's it's an

1:33:44

amazing resource that wasn't available before to any person forget i mean it's

1:33:51

too difficult you'd have

1:33:52

one line of inquiry like you have one lane or whether it's archaeology or

1:33:57

language one lane

1:33:59

where you look super well read in yeah you don't have access to all this these

1:34:02

other professors that

1:34:03

are working on quantum physics right you don't have access to the james webb

1:34:07

telescope people you don't

1:34:08

have access to all this data it's like it's too hard to get right now it's

1:34:12

everywhere everywhere it's

1:34:14

everywhere all the time that's right it's a question away on your phone yeah it's

1:34:18

a question away you

1:34:20

pick up your phone and you just press a button you say hey google why don't you

1:34:24

tell me what the james

1:34:25

webb telescope's been up to yeah hey chat gpt why don't you talk to me like santa

1:34:29

claus and explain

1:34:30

to me why these drones are fake the best i don't know if the drones are china's

1:34:39

or ours or water people

1:34:41

they're coming out of the water no tell i mean imagine if there's a

1:34:44

civilization under the water

1:34:46

i mean that's where i would hide if i was like trying to hide from a

1:34:49

civilization it's the ocean it's

1:34:51

clear they can't get in there they can't breathe under there's a perfect place

1:34:54

to hide you know what i've

1:34:54

been saying for a while last few weeks at least i think maybe what the aliens

1:34:59

are is custodians

1:35:01

i think maybe they're just here they're like some sort of a autonomous creation

1:35:07

that's designed to

1:35:10

accelerate our evolution stop us from blowing ourselves up and make sure that

1:35:15

we build the quantum

1:35:16

computer with ai right and this is like it's all a part of this like endless

1:35:22

cycle of integration in

1:35:25

the great universe this and like we're at this like i don't want to get out of

1:35:29

my cocoon we're in

1:35:30

that stage we're in this like bizarre strange you know australiapithecus

1:35:35

wandering around in the

1:35:36

grass fields we're in this weird stage where we're we're gonna launch into some

1:35:42

completely new way of

1:35:45

interfacing with the universe itself yeah and it's gonna happen whether you

1:35:49

like it or not yeah and

1:35:51

this is just what's happening right now and that's why everything's so chaotic

1:35:55

okay like mckenna used

1:35:56

to talk about this dude i used to talk about how the end of civilization it's

1:35:59

not going to be it's not

1:35:59

going to be a whimper it's going to be people screaming yeah agony and that's

1:36:03

it flailing and trying to

1:36:05

hold on to the norman rockwell paintings i want to bake my own bread you're

1:36:10

trying to do a waltz

1:36:12

at a rave how many genders yeah what are you saying yeah why are these drones

1:36:17

with their drones god

1:36:18

damn it it's the meltdown and you know if you what you're saying like so if you

1:36:22

look at like uh crick

1:36:24

and i think it was craig wrote the um uh he wrote a paper theorizing about uh

1:36:31

directed panspermia which

1:36:33

is where you put so so okay directed panspermia i get some kind of nanobot

1:36:38

which is i guess you could

1:36:39

say that's what dna is nanobot precursor essentially like well i think it's

1:36:43

weird and maybe i don't

1:36:45

understand what he's doing completely it's weird to me that musk wants to send

1:36:49

humans to mars because it

1:36:50

seems like it would make make way more sense pre sending humans to send drones

1:36:57

robots to construct

1:36:59

whatever it is you need to survive on mars to go in the caves build the that's

1:37:04

the plan duncan oh

1:37:05

really so yeah yeah the first the first um voyage to mars is going to be unmanned

1:37:10

okay great yeah i

1:37:11

think they have to do that they have to they have to have a certain amount of

1:37:14

supplies because i think

1:37:15

they can only come back in two years but i don't even mean supplies i mean if

1:37:19

we jump for 20

1:37:20

years how about missing that bus the mars bus the two-year bus oh duncan you

1:37:25

were late you slept in

1:37:27

that's hilarious yeah you missed the you've watched the rocket go up no

1:37:30

no nobody woke me you cocksuckers imagine if you're like duncan is such a

1:37:37

fucking douchebag let's leave him here let's leave him on mars there's plenty

1:37:41

of potatoes

1:37:42

he can live that is so fucked up fuck him make him fertilize his potatoes with

1:37:46

his own

1:37:46

shit like so damon yeah like matt damon did in the that marsha movie dude so

1:37:52

you if so obviously like the way you're going to want to

1:37:57

colonize habitable worlds is is you create not just this nanobot but you make

1:38:04

it so the nanobot can

1:38:05

only survive in environments that you would live in meaning and then encoded in

1:38:09

the nanobot

1:38:11

is the end destination what you're talking about the quantum computers some

1:38:14

kind of ai

1:38:15

that then will naturally uncover faster than light travel wormholes whatever

1:38:19

the fuck it is and then

1:38:20

when the wormholes open up you can instantaneously travel to habitable planets

1:38:25

right so can i tell you

1:38:26

terence harrod's uh idea yeah it's a great idea yeah he thinks that we have it

1:38:32

all wrong when it comes to

1:38:34

the formation of planets and the creation of life he thinks what happens is the

1:38:40

sun is constantly ejecting

1:38:43

things right you see these coronal mass ejections crazy yeah millions of times

1:38:48

like longer than you know

1:38:51

the distance between whatever and whatever i'm i don't know just scary crazy

1:38:55

bigger than earth right

1:38:56

that he thinks these particles coalesce in space outside of the gravity of the

1:39:02

sun and they they

1:39:03

orbit the sun and very close at first but then as time goes on they move

1:39:07

further and further away

1:39:08

and they get to a place where they're in this position like earth is and then

1:39:13

they people

1:39:14

they flower just like when you plant a seed when the water comes he goes and

1:39:20

then it has to be

1:39:22

sophisticated enough to adapt because the planet is eventually going to move

1:39:26

out of the habitable

1:39:27

zone wow and he thinks that mars at one point in time probably had civilization

1:39:34

in life and then as

1:39:35

mars got further and further and further out from the protection of the sun it

1:39:39

eventually got too cold

1:39:41

and it eventually got hit by something it lost its atmosphere and now it's just

1:39:46

desert that's so cool

1:39:47

well now they know there's water on mars yeah they know it used to be just the

1:39:51

craziest of conspiracy

1:39:52

right oh there's no water on mars yeah there's no evidence of water how could a

1:39:56

society live there

1:39:57

but you know this is the nuttiest of nutty but some remote viewer went to mars

1:40:04

a million years ago

1:40:06

and said there were pyramids there sure and there was a civilization there yeah

1:40:10

and you know um there's

1:40:12

tribes no actually they think they came from the planet series right like the

1:40:16

dogon tribe yeah i believe

1:40:17

that all people came from from another planet yeah if you were in mars and you're

1:40:23

a thousand years

1:40:24

advanced from us and they never figure out ai so they just go in a different

1:40:27

direction they're like super

1:40:28

super advanced though where they could travel through the space between the

1:40:32

planets and uh you get to a

1:40:34

point where you're like hey guys we kind of about a decade yeah we got about

1:40:38

one decade where life can

1:40:39

exist on this planet we got to get off of this now earth is ready there's some

1:40:45

monkeys there there's a

1:40:47

bunch of shit there it's like you know we could we could just go there yeah we

1:40:51

just go there well and

1:40:52

then we just monked around with them like these guys are developing like really

1:40:56

slowly like why don't

1:40:57

we just and then homo sapiens yeah there you go man listen the whatever it is

1:41:03

definitely not what i just

1:41:05

described no whatever it is it's not bad i wasn't believing it as i was saying

1:41:09

it i was like that's

1:41:10

crazy but dude you know i think maybe you look at um just the concept of epigenetics

1:41:16

and what we're doing

1:41:18

right now you look at the statistical probability of dna evolving based on the

1:41:23

age of the planet

1:41:24

you look at these things and not just that you look at the mythologies of the

1:41:29

world it all points

1:41:30

towards some kind of advanced intelligence bioengineering a planet for some

1:41:38

reason or another i mean even

1:41:40

like have you ever read the parable of the sower you know that jesus uh jesus

1:41:44

said can you do you mind

1:41:46

pulling that up jamie i don't have it memorized yet the parable of the sower

1:41:51

when you think how do you

1:41:53

say yes sower s-o-w-e-r oh like a sow like sowing things no like planting seeds

1:41:59

sower of seeds

1:42:00

but when you think about this generally this is the idea of like there's people

1:42:06

are going to like

1:42:06

understand jesus as god but if you look at it as an extraterrestrial

1:42:10

intelligence planting seeds on

1:42:12

planets versus it becomes this like crazy the sower is the yeah uh the pair of

1:42:21

the so

1:42:22

though seeing they do not see though hearing they do not hear or understand and

1:42:29

then um where is it uh

1:42:31

uh oh yeah um gotten it was then he told a farmer went out to sow a seed as he

1:42:36

was scattering the

1:42:38

seeds some fell along the path and the birds ate it up some fell on rocky

1:42:41

places where it did not have

1:42:43

much soil it sprang up quickly because the soil was shallow but when the sun

1:42:47

came up the plants were

1:42:48

scorched and they withered because they had no root other seed fell among thorns

1:42:52

which grew up and

1:42:52

choked the plants still other seed fell on good soil where it produced a crop a

1:42:57

hundred sixty or

1:42:58

thirty times what was sown whoever has ears let them hear whoa listen to this

1:43:06

the disciples came to him

1:43:08

and asked why do you speak to the people in parables he replied because the

1:43:12

knowledge of the secrets of

1:43:14

the kingdom of heaven has been given to you but not to them whoever whoever has

1:43:20

will be given more and

1:43:21

they will have an abundance whoever does not have even what they have will be

1:43:26

taken from them this is

1:43:28

why i speak to them in parables i'd be like bro what the did you say can you

1:43:32

break that down if i had

1:43:33

that guy on the podcast if i had god on the podcast i'm like okay do you have

1:43:38

friends okay when you talk

1:43:40

to friends like you should when you say like complicated things you should make

1:43:44

them make sense so um i know

1:43:46

you're smart you made the whole universe yeah i'm not being disrespectful sir

1:43:50

but yeah what did you say

1:43:51

well let me answer it in a parable you see imagine a flower growing from stone

1:43:57

sometimes the stone

1:43:58

is angry at the flower but sometimes the stone glows with light this is why is

1:44:04

it because we teach kids

1:44:08

that way kind of we kind of teach kids almost in parables well we teach kids

1:44:14

like a simplistic form

1:44:16

of everything well i think it's an acknowledgement of a kind of spectrum of

1:44:21

intelligence right it's like

1:44:24

right the idea is like let me give you a little data fractal here that's why it's

1:44:28

so rude when someone

1:44:28

talks down to you oh the worst when someone's like i don't know if you know but

1:44:34

let me explain to you oh

1:44:35

please what's wrong with the way you're thinking i can't wait to hear it's the

1:44:39

grossest way to talk

1:44:40

to people ever it is so it's it's an absolutely a sign of low intelligence if

1:44:45

you're so idiotic that you

1:44:47

think and you'll be yeah but how do you feel it but you're you're deciding to

1:44:51

be mean about a point of

1:44:54

discussion that's right that's what it is you're deciding to be mean instead of

1:44:58

saying um i uh i have

1:45:01

a lot of knowledge about this if we could if i could tell you what i know all

1:45:05

right this is why

1:45:05

i believe what you're saying is not true yeah because i actually have a phd in

1:45:09

this and this

1:45:10

is how we know this and this is how we know that right and then you go oh that's

1:45:14

essentially what

1:45:14

eric weinstein did to terence howard right so when terence howard was on the

1:45:18

podcast there was a lot

1:45:19

of things that you're saying that were true and really fascinating and very

1:45:21

interesting he's a very

1:45:22

brilliant guy yeah eric weinstein is a legitimate phd in mathematics right he's

1:45:27

super crazy scary

1:45:29

smart and he was and he said to him he said look i'm not giving you peer review

1:45:33

he goes i'm not a

1:45:34

peer you're not my peer he goes i'm an expert i'm giving you an expert review i'm

1:45:38

saying you have a

1:45:39

lot of really interesting ideas just stop teaching people stop stop t it's

1:45:42

offensive to the people that

1:45:43

actually do this for a living that's all it is it doesn't you are like us and

1:45:47

this is what he said of

1:45:48

him he said he's one of us he just went down a different path that's right he's

1:45:51

a brilliant guy

1:45:53

who has a strong desire to understand the universe yeah strong desire to

1:45:57

understand things but

1:45:59

he's not you have to go down the path of peers you have to go down the path of

1:46:04

you got to be with all

1:46:04

these other legitimate people to bounce these ideas about and the only way you're

1:46:08

really going to get

1:46:09

in if you you have to find some online community of legitimate people that

1:46:12

accept you you have to be

1:46:14

invited into something or you have to fucking attend a university like all the

1:46:17

other ones did

1:46:18

that's that's how you find out especially when it comes to like mathematics boy

1:46:23

you know when you're

1:46:24

talking about like things like physics yeah boy you need do you need that's

1:46:28

these are cold hard

1:46:30

fact-based disciplines like you need to be around the people that are the cream

1:46:33

of the crop of that

1:46:34

that's it yeah that's right man and and that um i watched some of that and um i

1:46:41

loved it because uh

1:46:44

you well that's what compassion looks like you got to see also that terence is

1:46:48

a good guy yeah exactly

1:46:50

he didn't get upset he didn't get angry yeah it wasn't designed to humiliate it

1:46:53

wasn't at all

1:46:54

and it was also an acknowledgement that a lot of his ideas are really good that

1:46:57

peopling idea is

1:46:58

really good dude the other thing that he has that he invented you've seen that

1:47:02

linchpin thing that he

1:47:04

invented i saw something like that modular drone technology yeah like be used

1:47:09

for construction and

1:47:10

yeah and moving giant girders creates a vortex or something well they all link

1:47:15

together it's like a

1:47:16

geometric pattern but the nerdiest of nerdy things was weinstein calling him

1:47:21

out on the degree

1:47:22

of the angle of one of the like calculations that he made i don't even remember

1:47:28

exactly what it was

1:47:29

he was you had to cheat that right right and he's like yeah i did i did that to

1:47:32

make it work and he's

1:47:33

like ah they were like with each other because he understood why there would be

1:47:38

something problematic

1:47:39

about linking all these specific geometric patterns and then they had to make

1:47:43

some slight adjustment to

1:47:44

make them link up perfectly i love that super nerd talk inside baseball comedians

1:47:49

do it too like when

1:47:50

we're like breaking down a joke and like the like the to a minute pause or

1:47:55

something it's the same thing

1:47:57

but yeah man i mean this uh this was this is what i love when you read about

1:48:01

the history of science

1:48:03

you read about like famous physicists getting in real like intense fights with

1:48:10

each other

1:48:11

and you see that the process of discovering the truth uh does involve a kind of

1:48:18

mutual curiosity but

1:48:20

not being afraid to say this is wrong but allowing the other person to fire

1:48:25

back because you both know

1:48:27

that via this conflict potentially you discover something new and that that was

1:48:32

the attitude i mean

1:48:33

like this whole thing where suddenly normal people aren't supposed to engage in

1:48:40

science is really

1:48:42

fucked up when you look at like the history of science which used to be maniacs

1:48:47

like newton who they

1:48:49

analyzed his hair mercury in his hair bro everything had poisoned it back then

1:48:56

well no but he was

1:48:57

experimenting with mercury he was interested he's like building scale replicas

1:49:01

of the temple of

1:49:02

solomon you know like you you look at that and you see that now newton today

1:49:07

you know somebody like

1:49:09

don limb would be like oh really so you're gonna believe isaac fucking newton

1:49:14

with mercury in his hair

1:49:15

in his little dollhouse like the temple of solomon oh yeah he's he's a real

1:49:19

scientist that's not what

1:49:21

they look like it's like these people were out of their minds but sigmund freud

1:49:27

just injecting

1:49:28

liquid cocaine into his veins you look at like the history about his mom

1:49:33

freaking out about his mom

1:49:35

fucking shoving cigars up his ass i don't think he really did that but i wouldn't

1:49:39

be surprised i wouldn't

1:49:40

be surprised but you know you look at the history of what brilliant people who

1:49:44

have shifted the culture

1:49:46

actually behave like tesla yeah fucking tesla did like i don't know like he's

1:49:50

in love with his pigeon in love

1:49:52

with a pigeon didn't want to like the thought about castrating himself because

1:49:56

his sex drive was getting

1:49:57

in the way of his research so he's like i'll just chop my dick off he did dude

1:50:01

i think there was a

1:50:02

description of him destroying his sexuality yeah dude so so you you sort of

1:50:06

like realize that for whatever

1:50:09

reason the priest class of default reality of which don lemon is a high priest

1:50:14

have suddenly created this

1:50:16

ridiculous version of scientists of philosophers of intellectuals that are

1:50:22

domesticated

1:50:23

people normal fucking people is actually really awful in the sense that all of

1:50:31

the like philosophers and

1:50:33

scientists out there today who are like you know in their filthy fucking

1:50:38

apartments who've been staring

1:50:39

into a candle for like five hours they're not thinking like i'm a scientist

1:50:44

they might be you don't know

1:50:46

like this this this this new basically like it appears that the power

1:50:53

structures in the world

1:50:55

want to create this homogeneous version of humanity within which there's all

1:51:02

these declawed people

1:51:04

who completely align on a few ridiculous facts absolutely and you can make

1:51:10

those people very clawed if

1:51:12

you bond them together to attack anybody who doesn't stay in line that's right

1:51:16

yeah

1:51:16

that's right and that is what again like a coup or you you get rid of the

1:51:20

president at least you know

1:51:22

it's not the president tyranny where you don't have soldiers in the streets but

1:51:29

a kind of societal

1:51:31

pressure an unending pressure trying to online bots tick tock the reels the

1:51:37

algorithm like dude have you

1:51:39

ever looked at pendulum sync up but i don't watch tick tock i don't have tick

1:51:43

tock i know it sucks because i

1:51:44

try to send you some tick tock you can't look at it i won't click on it but i

1:51:48

don't the the the they

1:51:50

probably already infected my phone just because you sent me those links i'm

1:51:53

sorry probably in the user

1:51:54

agreement i still send we agree to infect other people's phones every time you

1:51:57

send them a link

1:51:58

i keep hoping you all of like i i try not not giving in well it's it is so

1:52:04

incredibly hypnotic like it is so

1:52:07

advanced in what it does but not interested it's really creepy though because

1:52:11

like

1:52:13

it's it's syncing as it's homogenizing people and that's what i don't like is

1:52:18

like it's creating this

1:52:19

synced up and it's creepy because like the tick tock dance is actually if you

1:52:23

think about it it's

1:52:24

really a symbol of what it's doing for a lot of other things like maybe you're

1:52:28

not doing a choreographed

1:52:29

dance with your family in front of the christmas tree to some dumb song but why

1:52:34

is it that everything

1:52:35

you say i've read i've seen written exactly in the same way on reddit why is it

1:52:40

that every opinion you

1:52:42

have matches not just like the idea doesn't match but the way you're verbalizing

1:52:48

the idea

1:52:48

how is it is like a sentence that i've heard over and over and over again in

1:52:52

different places

1:52:54

that is so spooky to me yeah so to to me like that um and also that it's called

1:53:00

tick tock which in my

1:53:01

fucking paranoid universe i keep thinking is that the tick tock of a metronome

1:53:04

that they're talking

1:53:05

about getting people to dance to a certain cultural bpm jamie i'm gonna send

1:53:10

you something i'm not sure

1:53:12

if it's true so i want you to find out if it's true and uh it was someone was

1:53:17

saying that um there's

1:53:19

a whole series of people i saved it on twitter it's a link on twitter that's

1:53:23

what it is um there's a

1:53:25

whole series of people who are claiming to be doctors saying the exact same

1:53:31

thing i saw that i know

1:53:33

what you're talking about is that real though i don't know the problem with

1:53:35

those things is like people

1:53:37

bullshit and when people both here it is i'll send it to you jamie uh when

1:53:41

people bullshit it's really hard

1:53:42

to tell you know because uh if you change this and you know create this in photoshop

1:53:49

and then people

1:53:49

start spreading it then all of a sudden that narrative gets out and most people

1:53:52

don't ever hear oh no no

1:53:54

no somebody made that in photoshop right so by the time it gets around it's

1:53:57

like i don't know i don't

1:53:58

know if it's true or not right these are one of those so it's like if if that's

1:54:02

true and if all these

1:54:03

doctors were tweeting out the exact same verbiage exactly i wonder if that's a

1:54:10

mandate i wonder if

1:54:11

they're sent something like a mass email mass email that says copy and paste

1:54:16

this perhaps discord server

1:54:18

or i wonder if they're fake doctors or i wonder you know if it's like some bot

1:54:23

program designed to

1:54:25

encourage people to go get vaccinated or whatever it was i just don't know if

1:54:28

it was real so i don't

1:54:29

want to like i want to talk to jamie to look at it real quick thank you jamie

1:54:33

jamie's super skeptical

1:54:34

to the point of being a liberal oh why is that what it means why does that have

1:54:40

to why is that the end

1:54:41

result he's triggered he's triggered that narrative gets around people i know i

1:54:45

know jamie's not a

1:54:46

liberal folks yeah jamie's very uh down the middle hey jamie's not a liberal um

1:54:50

you're a centrist is

1:54:52

that correct sure i think so right this is weird i'm just looking at the

1:54:55

account i don't i'm trying to

1:54:56

figure out a way to to research it i might have twitter's or uh google search

1:55:00

the image but see

1:55:01

if the thing has been uh community noted i do see one different here's what

1:55:06

difference i'm noticing

1:55:08

just looking at it that the different font well the third thing that they're

1:55:11

saying is a little different

1:55:13

because it's starting to be a joke sugma is a joke it's something that's like

1:55:16

my net like suck my nuts

1:55:18

oh really yeah it's another hilarious that's brilliant oh that's very funny it's

1:55:25

already in

1:55:26

troll space but okay so it does mean oh so it could be that a bunch of people

1:55:30

just decided to retweet it

1:55:32

for funsies i it's some of them are well why don't you go to their accounts

1:55:36

look up that's what i was

1:55:37

going to do or it could have been one of those things where someone got caught

1:55:41

do you remember when

1:55:42

there was this like misinformation video that got out there was all these local

1:55:46

news anchors giving

1:55:47

the same exact speech in verbatim yeah in tune in time yeah it's really weird

1:55:54

yeah play that jamie

1:55:55

do you know what that how that happens yeah they get given just get the same

1:56:00

script yeah it's like

1:56:01

local news stuff it's like uh i mean it usually happens i know clear media

1:56:05

right but it's about

1:56:06

misinformation oh yeah right and it's it's weird it's weird because they're

1:56:10

basically protecting their

1:56:12

job so what it is they've been caught stealing money you know they've got a big

1:56:15

fucking pot of gold

1:56:17

then you know and the people are at the door like i heard you got gold in there

1:56:20

what you're hearing

1:56:21

is misinformation it's all misinformation we are the number one source of news

1:56:26

and we're dedicated to

1:56:27

give you the true objective they're all reciting the same script right is it um

1:56:35

what company is

1:56:36

it that makes them sing claire so they make them let's just play it though

1:56:39

because it's so crazy

1:56:40

that these people are the people that are in charge of giving you the news and

1:56:44

they're reading off this

1:56:45

thing pretending that this is the these are their thoughts this is what's

1:56:49

bizarre about that where it's

1:56:51

untenable because people know that those are not their thoughts they know they're

1:56:55

reading off a script

1:56:56

right everybody knows it so it doesn't work you're just making noise with your

1:57:00

mouth and people are still on

1:57:02

twitter well they get you know what i mean they're still they're still like

1:57:05

reading what's actually

1:57:06

going on versus what you're saying also you know you know the idea is you get

1:57:10

these people to dress

1:57:11

up like humans and then just get them to like you know in a in tone whatever

1:57:15

the thing is you want

1:57:16

them to read yeah and we think they're one of us and so we believe them jamie

1:57:20

did i send you the thing

1:57:21

where the girl is uh excuse me the woman is uh giving a um a press conference

1:57:27

on uh the uaps and the drones

1:57:30

and she's saying we don't know what they are they're not ours and they're not

1:57:34

an adversaries

1:57:35

that's i think i think i tweeted i sent it to you that's the one where she's

1:57:38

wearing the ufo necklace

1:57:39

you'll see she's wearing a ufo she's a kook is she a kook who is who is this

1:57:44

lady

1:57:44

i don't know this legit press conference all i know she's in front of a podium

1:57:47

so i trust her

1:57:48

that's what i go by it's a podium you can get all the way the up there nobody

1:57:52

tackles you must be telling the truth you gotta be legit yeah you're at the

1:57:55

podium totally

1:57:56

yeah yeah you're at the sacred scroll there's a flag behind you i'm gonna buy ari

1:58:00

a torah

1:58:00

you ever see the torah it's like in a or the talmud you can just buy you're

1:58:05

gonna buy the actual

1:58:06

scroll hey get someone to write it for you that's a terrible responsibility for

1:58:09

him because you have

1:58:10

to like treat it really carefully you have to put in a vault they have dudes

1:58:13

they uh no he's gonna

1:58:14

keep in his living room and jerk off on it did he say that no no you won't i

1:58:18

said that i promise

1:58:20

he still believes he's not gonna jerk off on the tour i promise you he's gonna

1:58:24

put it oh talmud the

1:58:32

dude how about this one jamie can you find you remember that lady they hired

1:58:37

for the ministry of

1:58:38

info it wasn't called that but it was like yeah ministry of disinformation okay

1:58:41

can you find the

1:58:42

ministry of different information ladies singing supercalifragilisticexpl you've

1:58:46

seen that yeah of

1:58:46

course you've seen that yeah that was cindy orwell i think cindy orwell that's

1:58:51

not her name i just made

1:58:52

that up i'll be awesome she's like she's like such a loon and this idea that

1:59:00

this person is going to be in

1:59:01

charge of what's legitimate and not there's too many things this is what people

1:59:05

are realizing there's

1:59:06

too many things that they told us were not legitimate just three years ago that

1:59:09

are 100

1:59:10

fact now and everybody knows that and this is this uh latest what is the house

1:59:14

committee thing on when

1:59:16

with covid and the wuhan lab leak and this lady this is the craziest shit i've

1:59:22

ever seen nina jankovic

1:59:29

information's origins are slightly less atrocious can you imagine it's how you

1:59:34

hide a little lie lie

1:59:35

it's how you hide a little lie it's how you hide a little lie it's how you hide

1:59:37

a little lie

1:59:37

it's how you hide a little lie they think we're idiots

1:59:38

julianni shared bad intel from ukraine or when tiktok influencers say covid can

1:59:44

cause pain

1:59:44

they're laundering disinfo and we really should take note and not support their

1:59:49

lies with our wallet voice

1:59:50

oh it's kind of catchy i mean she's beautiful isn't this what animaniacs did

1:59:58

this is real

2:00:00

it feels like animaniacs to me you guys might be no i think it's really her no

2:00:07

no i mean but that they

2:00:08

would give information out in songs like that song form and it would be

2:00:11

informational but this was like

2:00:14

something that she released when they were talking about her being the ministry

2:00:17

of the head of the

2:00:18

i'm just saying it's disinformation but how about i think it's honestly just

2:00:22

her trying to go viral

2:00:24

with a video about this thing that she's doing that's what it is and that's the

2:00:28

it's a good way

2:00:28

to go viral i mean we just talked about it i mean people share it even if it's

2:00:32

preposterous it's a

2:00:33

good way to get attention to this thing that you're about to do and why it's

2:00:36

fine if if the united

2:00:37

states isn't literally trillions of dollars in debt and partially because

2:00:42

people like that are getting

2:00:43

hired to sing mary poppins about misinformation then it's an atrocity she

2:00:51

should get nancy pelosi money

2:00:53

dude she should get i mean look nancy pelosi deserves full of diamonds money

2:00:58

bathtub full of diamonds

2:00:59

just just crystal and diamonds in the bathtub just waddle around

2:01:04

and just hang in there until that genetic engineering comes you can be young

2:01:13

again wills

2:01:14

what was it she said joe biden should be on mount rushmore yeah good call dude

2:01:20

he's definitely

2:01:21

not going to send you in jail that guy is uh oh this is what i want to talk to

2:01:24

you about

2:01:25

pardons i'm not opposed to the idea of being pardoned because i think that

2:01:30

there's like

2:01:31

governors can find out that someone legitimately got railroaded and they they

2:01:38

can pardon someone yeah

2:01:39

i like that i like that i like that the president can pardon some people like i

2:01:43

wish they pardoned ed

2:01:44

ed snowden you know you know there's a bunch of julian assange they should have

2:01:48

pardoned julian assange

2:01:50

i wish there was you know a way to stop someone from pardoning 8 000 people and

2:01:55

some of them are like

2:01:56

murderers some of them are the kids the kids for cash judge kids for cash one

2:02:01

of them or one of the

2:02:02

people we talked about this the other day he's one of the people he had two

2:02:05

years left in his sentence

2:02:06

but still like it's the principle of the thing how many lives were destroyed by

2:02:10

that kids for cash thing

2:02:12

we how many how many dehumanizing decisions were made where you decided to lock

2:02:17

young people up in

2:02:18

detention centers where they would get raped and beaten up and tortured and

2:02:22

separated from their family

2:02:24

and sent down a horrible road of distrust of law enforcement and of authority

2:02:31

and everything else

2:02:33

everything else you're basically setting them up for a life of being a loser

2:02:38

unless they have the

2:02:39

strongest of wills and they can figure out a way to stay positive and get

2:02:43

through it and then use that

2:02:45

to fuel whatever the they do that's so rare man those people are so rare

2:02:52

well here's the problem man i mean the problem is well number one i think okay

2:02:57

like you pull someone

2:02:59

over you breathalyze them they're driving drunk right so you're like you can't

2:03:03

drive now because

2:03:04

you're drunk so also you wouldn't say to them i'm going to give you the ability

2:03:09

to pardon as many

2:03:10

people as you want for any crime that you want right so if somebody has

2:03:14

dementia right

2:03:18

why can they do all the pardons that's so crazy that's such a great point that

2:03:23

i never even

2:03:23

thought of yeah wait so why would you still give them that power well the other

2:03:27

thing that's really

2:03:28

fucking crazy about it is i don't know what we the president makes a year but

2:03:32

it's not enough money

2:03:33

we barely pay the president anything so i think it's like four hundred thousand

2:03:36

dollars four hundred

2:03:37

thousand dollars a year you can't say that's barely enough that's barely i know

2:03:41

i mean for the actual

2:03:43

job i mean literally every day you're shitting blood because no matter what you

2:03:48

do you say the wrong

2:03:49

thing five thousand people accidentally die it's the most stressful job on

2:03:52

earth i'm saying the actual

2:03:53

thing theoretically in my mind so i would say you know in the way that we pay

2:03:58

our football players a

2:03:59

ton of money baseball players a ton of money the dude theoretically keeping our

2:04:04

country from getting

2:04:05

nuked should make a lot of money why not if how about this how about we pay

2:04:09

them more but they can't do

2:04:10

speeches no speeches afterwards no paid speeches when you leave you can write

2:04:14

books you can write books

2:04:16

but none of those paid bank speeches none of those five hundred thousand dollar

2:04:21

speeches that's so to me

2:04:22

it's like on your way out you sell pardons on your way out you via some god

2:04:29

knows what mechanism that's

2:04:30

probably been in place for a long time right people are able to give you this

2:04:36

or that and you pardon that

2:04:38

person yeah that's where it's up it's like dude come on bro like come on man

2:04:43

that's trading that's how

2:04:44

it works that's how it works i'll give you a little this you give me a little

2:04:47

that we do it right in

2:04:48

front of the world and we're gonna let out murderers and then especially if you

2:04:52

got cooed so especially

2:04:54

you got cooed you got humiliated they didn't give you your drugs why isn't he

2:04:58

letting out joe exotic

2:05:00

it's insane let him out why not let him out you're gonna do kids for cash you're

2:05:05

not gonna do joe

2:05:06

fucking exotic yeah and how is joe exotic dming me how is this happening i

2:05:09

think he because he knows

2:05:11

because you will say things like this does he have a phone in jail dude i feel

2:05:15

like are you allowed to

2:05:15

have a phone joe can you have a twitter account joe i feel like right now

2:05:20

because of

2:05:21

you're like you aiding trump and getting elected i i don't think you're the

2:05:26

kind of person to do this

2:05:27

but i do feel like you could probably call in like at least one favor get joe

2:05:31

exotic out dude

2:05:32

why not for all of us russ russ albert first okay sure yeah i mean i'm

2:05:38

obviously i think some

2:05:39

people i think trump committed to doing that to releasing really yeah well i

2:05:45

mean does that find

2:05:46

out if that's true jamie i believe it is i believe he was it was one of those

2:05:50

bitcoin

2:05:51

fucking things that he did oh yeah he said that dan or dave said that the

2:05:55

libertarian thing he said yes

2:05:57

that's right libertarian libertarian and bitcoin are the same fucking category

2:06:00

in my brain when i'm

2:06:03

barely tuned in it's all the same it's like nft libertarian bitcoin yeah yeah

2:06:07

yeah whatever

2:06:09

yeah i'm a libertarian like sure it's on in paper it's a great idea it's not it's

2:06:12

not a real party

2:06:13

i'm a sovereign citizen i'm a sovereign citizen too really yeah yeah it's great

2:06:17

but i'm not of this

2:06:18

planet where are you from i'm from everywhere i'm from everywhere man i'm johnny

2:06:22

cash dude that's a

2:06:25

a lot of place everywhere man what a great song what a great fucking song johnny

2:06:30

cash was the

2:06:31

man oh my god that's an incarnation i would pick like if we get to like if

2:06:37

there's a vhs library of

2:06:38

incarnations there's a long line to be johnny cash i'm picking johnny cash oh

2:06:43

my god top 10 probably

2:06:45

you imagine being johnny cash when he played at folsom prison folsom prison

2:06:49

blues it's the most

2:06:50

incredible he played at the prison it's incredible paul rodriguez did a comedy

2:06:54

special at a

2:06:54

prison like way back in the day i forget when it was but i remember i believe

2:07:01

it was an hbo special

2:07:02

and he did it live from a prison which is fucking buck wild so badass buck wild

2:07:08

i mean i if you were

2:07:10

going to do that you would have to work you know who could do that joey diaz

2:07:13

100 easily 100 he would

2:07:17

murder in a prison yeah you know metaphorically i mean if there was a simulator

2:07:22

and this is again like is this

2:07:24

paul rodriguez behind behind bars live in san quentin 1991. damn

2:07:29

respect to paul rodriguez i don't even know if it worked

2:07:35

though they're laughing they're laughing looks like they're having a good time

2:07:39

that's crazy

2:07:40

no they don't have to i'm joking i'm sure they don't rush him

2:07:44

who's how's the guards gonna stop by the time they beat him to death i mean 50

2:07:48

dudes just rush him

2:07:51

seriously you're thinking about that before you go on stage like you they like

2:07:54

paul rodriguez i mean

2:07:56

you know but yeah how do you know it's san quentin he was popular at the time

2:08:01

like he is still

2:08:01

popular but he was like very very popular at the time there's a guy probably in

2:08:05

the audience who like

2:08:06

wore his daughters in trails as a necklace you know what i mean like i'm sure

2:08:12

his neighbors

2:08:13

right his dog it's badass that's a badass move crazy move that's a badass move

2:08:18

i mean dude

2:08:20

when you think about all the that we're talking about and really when you sort

2:08:25

of look at like

2:08:26

just among our group of friends the insane events the last few months tony hinchcliffe

2:08:33

was misquoted

2:08:34

by obama i mean there was a speaker at the trump rally who said puerto rico's a

2:08:40

pile of garbage

2:08:41

those are human beings dude i mean nobody's aged harder than that dude well he's

2:08:48

withered bro but

2:08:49

those are like these are vampire ears this isn't like you got bit by a leech

2:08:54

like you got a parasite

2:08:56

yeah years reading the necronomicon or something he's yeah right right right

2:09:00

you have the ark of

2:09:01

covenant in your bedroom yeah you're cooking you're cooking you're aging like

2:09:05

you look you age 50

2:09:07

years you look like a really good looking 70 year old there's something weird i

2:09:11

mean just think about like

2:09:13

what that's like to be pressure the star the pr you know you're i'm saying as

2:09:19

far as power goes i think

2:09:20

power must be so addictive and so you're the president not just a president you're

2:09:25

like this

2:09:25

kind of rock star president for a second yeah one of the greatest presidents of

2:09:28

all time of all times

2:09:29

and so you lose that power and now what you know what i mean now what and then

2:09:35

you try desperately to

2:09:36

like grab control the thing and you can't it didn't work so essentially

2:09:42

whatever like prana or energy

2:09:45

you've been extracting from having that kind of power it's gone it's gone now

2:09:49

you have the nice house

2:09:50

but like really like what's left you are at the fucking control board for for

2:09:57

like america and now

2:10:00

nothing you wither you deflate you like no purpose no purpose i think we're

2:10:05

going to be able to read

2:10:06

minds in five years and all this is going to be a moot point well no i think it's

2:10:09

going to be all go

2:10:10

out the window i think quantum computing is going to crush encryption yeah we're

2:10:14

going to have a real

2:10:15

problem with currency worldwide we're going to have to figure out how to redistribute

2:10:19

resources without

2:10:20

conventional capitalism there's going to be some weird new shifting that's

2:10:25

going to come along with the

2:10:26

birth of this ai that's way more intelligent than us and everything's going to

2:10:31

get super weird and

2:10:33

we're not ready for it and we think that we oh we have to be ready for it it's

2:10:35

not going to happen

2:10:36

like that because i'm not ready for it no one's ready for it no it couldn't

2:10:39

happen just like a super

2:10:40

volcano just like an asteroid impact it can happen and you're not ready for it

2:10:43

that's right and a lot

2:10:44

of us might not make it that's right dude okay this as far as like agi goes it

2:10:51

like when altman came out

2:10:53

and said this year uh i don't the the someone the ceo from the company i think

2:10:58

that made club i don't know

2:11:00

one of the other ais said uh two years from now i think but the idea is if if biden

2:11:07

came out and was

2:11:08

like guys got some news we've detected a mothership it's coming to the planet

2:11:14

in a year we don't understand

2:11:17

anything about who they are other than they must have extraordinary technology

2:11:21

based on what we've

2:11:22

seen of their ship i'm good the whole planet the next few years would just be

2:11:27

getting ready nasa

2:11:28

anthropologists philosophers scientists defense people what do we do if they

2:11:32

want to us up what

2:11:33

what do we do how do you interact with aliens uh but having these tech people

2:11:38

say we are about to have

2:11:40

a brand new species essentially a technological species an agi is coming to the

2:11:47

planet that will surpass

2:11:48

us as as far as being able to um solve problems it will know everything it's

2:11:56

going to be here in about

2:11:56

a year maybe two years you would think the reaction to that would be okay we've

2:12:00

got to get ready for

2:12:01

this what does that mean what's going to happen and we can't get ready maybe

2:12:05

that's what this scramble

2:12:06

is all about that we just have to fucking die screaming

2:12:13

maybe it can't be solved just like australiapithecus couldn't figure out how to

2:12:18

make a plane

2:12:19

it's we're not prepared for it and we're not supposed to last we're supposed to

2:12:24

carry on to the next thing

2:12:25

and the next thing will still be us that's what's going to be weird the next

2:12:29

thing is going to still be

2:12:30

us we just want us to stay us like this we want you know fucking blue songs and

2:12:35

we want to drink

2:12:36

whiskey sure we want to smoke cigarettes we want to like get in fist fights we

2:12:41

want to we want us to

2:12:42

stay us well it's you know it's not going to happen i'm sure if you could

2:12:47

travel back in time and there

2:12:49

was an intelligent semi-intelligent uh version of humanity one of our ancestors

2:12:55

who still had a workable tail

2:12:57

yeah and you're like hey i want to show you what you're going to grow into and

2:13:02

probably there'd be

2:13:03

a lot of things they're excited about whoa cars incredible jesus christ you can

2:13:08

in your own house

2:13:09

yeah wow but then they would see that we didn't have tails and they're like

2:13:13

whoa whoa whoa whoa

2:13:16

i'm not doing that if i lose my tail so this is for sure the sort of cultural

2:13:24

drama that we're seeing

2:13:26

is and and you know the the trans controversy uh there's aspects to it where

2:13:33

like yeah abs why why

2:13:35

dude shouldn't be in sports but the reality is where we're going is going to

2:13:41

make that controversy seem

2:13:43

like nothing not only that it seems like if you wanted to have an evolutionary

2:13:49

path towards a genderless

2:13:50

society wouldn't you have that society if you wanted to tame the wild primate

2:13:57

wouldn't you have that

2:13:57

society be completely addicted to plastic they use plastic for everything which

2:14:03

is an endocrine disruptor

2:14:05

so you have these plastic and these chemicals that get into the body lower

2:14:11

testosterone

2:14:12

shrink dicks shrink taints oh dr shanna swan they shrink taints yeah yeah shanna

2:14:18

swan have you ever

2:14:19

talked to her i didn't know the tank could shrink i you should talk no well it's

2:14:22

in it's in utero so

2:14:24

this is what happens when you introduce uh mammals to that her book is called

2:14:29

countdown that's right

2:14:32

i i used to remember it um it's great book uh she's she's really fun too she's

2:14:37

a really fascinating

2:14:38

person but what they found is with mammals when you introduce phthalates which

2:14:44

are these plastics

2:14:46

like microplastics and the chemicals that come off of them into um pregnant

2:14:50

women or pregnant mice um

2:14:52

the the babies have smaller taints and then the taint is one of the best ways

2:14:58

to distinguish a male or

2:14:59

female in mammals no way in males the taint is 50 to 100 percent longer is it

2:15:04

really called the taint

2:15:06

they don't call it the taint they have a word for it she told me but she calls

2:15:09

it the taint because she's

2:15:10

fun she has a thing on her website called the jizz quiz it's very funny she's

2:15:14

very funny and she's you

2:15:16

know a really distinguished professor but um what she's saying essentially is

2:15:20

that these plastics are

2:15:22

lowering hormone levels they are uh lowering birth rate levels they're

2:15:27

increasing in the amount of

2:15:29

miscarriages that women have so that all these things she believes are

2:15:33

completely connected and that

2:15:35

this uh hormone disruptor that is on these plastics is causing people to become

2:15:41

sicker and a little bit

2:15:43

deformed because your hormones aren't expressing themselves correctly because

2:15:47

they're being poisoned

2:15:48

right if you were uh a society like if you were going to get to where the

2:15:53

aliens are they're they look

2:15:55

genderless don't they yeah sure don't you think that's probably us in the

2:15:57

future aren't you glad they're

2:15:59

genderless sure can you imagine if the grays had big swinging dicks giant hogs

2:16:04

it would be

2:16:04

horrible those gray pictures would be very different very different standing

2:16:08

over your bed jacking off

2:16:10

in your face horrible yeah while you're paralyzed you're like you're sitting

2:16:13

there like oh this

2:16:14

fucking piece of shit i think that um we are clinging to this idea of male and

2:16:22

female look i i think

2:16:24

currently there are male and females for sure and this is why i'm completely

2:16:28

opposed to biological

2:16:30

males who have mental illness and that's what gender dysphoria is even if you're

2:16:34

being kind

2:16:34

it's a mental illness yeah whatever it is you're not well in who you are you

2:16:40

wish you were a

2:16:41

different gender i fully support you that's not one but you can't compete with

2:16:44

biological females

2:16:45

right we can't pretend that you're a biological female because we want you to

2:16:49

feel good

2:16:49

you have massive physical advantages they've been clearly documented anybody

2:16:53

who says any

2:16:53

differently is full of shit talk to riley gains right talk to her she's the

2:16:57

expert in this

2:16:58

shit she had to go through that shit with swimming it feels crazy to me it is

2:17:02

that you have to say

2:17:03

that it's so crazy it's so crazy that you have to say that to liberals who

2:17:06

always wanted to protect

2:17:08

women the whole thing is bonkers but it just goes to show you it's not real

2:17:12

this idea of left and

2:17:13

right is not real right these are just masks that people put on these are just

2:17:18

a conglomeration of

2:17:20

opinions that people adopt they most people have not thought most of the things

2:17:23

through they don't

2:17:25

have the time they have to work all fucking day they have a family maybe they

2:17:29

have a hobby they're

2:17:30

trying to get out and play hoops with their friends right maybe they get

2:17:32

together with their buddies and

2:17:33

they want to play video games yeah one night a week you know like jesus christ

2:17:37

right they don't have

2:17:38

fucking time to pay attention to all this crazy shit and that's what's really

2:17:43

going on right

2:17:43

most people are just like deciding that you know i'm a progressive i will

2:17:48

repeat progressive talking

2:17:50

points i will violently defend a woman's right to choose and they get into

2:17:54

these patterns and then the

2:17:55

same thing happens on the right this exact same thing exact same thing that's

2:18:00

why like the right is

2:18:02

against the war in ukraine and the left is supporting it it's like this is like

2:18:05

vietnam in reverse the

2:18:07

whole thing is bananas right you know the right is insisting on free speech

2:18:11

they were the

2:18:12

motherfuckers that were censoring everybody i know they wanted to lock howard

2:18:16

stern up in jail

2:18:16

he had to fight the fcc they sued him his parent company had to play untold

2:18:22

amounts of

2:18:23

money i don't even how much money did howard stern's company get fined it was

2:18:26

hundreds of thousands

2:18:27

of dollars if not millions yeah insane amounts of money the government was

2:18:31

trying to shut down

2:18:33

a radio guy for talking it's crazy so and now that's the left it's just

2:18:39

patterns man it's just

2:18:41

patterns where people can justify certain behaviors because it aligns with

2:18:45

their ideology that's right

2:18:46

and also where it gets really up is you are dancing to a song that basically

2:18:53

there's like here's two

2:18:55

songs there's two songs you can dance to the right song or the song of the left

2:18:59

the the metronome is

2:19:00

beating out two i guess somewhat different rhythms people dance to those they

2:19:05

get in fights over you got to do

2:19:07

our dance meanwhile there's a million other songs out there you could be

2:19:12

dancing to and there's songs

2:19:14

that are much older than america much older than then maybe the planet itself

2:19:19

which is that's why i i

2:19:22

really think uh it's creepy these the the way that like uh christianity or any

2:19:30

religion where there's

2:19:32

theism it's in the list of things that should be decried by an intelligent

2:19:38

person we shoot down this

2:19:40

notion of god we shoot down this or that but all of these religions at the very

2:19:45

least they give you a new

2:19:46

song to dance to that isn't war drums it is you know what i mean and they don't

2:19:52

like that they don't

2:19:53

like that because suddenly you're supposed to be perturbed like you know that

2:19:57

stupid but it's also

2:19:58

the arrogance of intellectualism you know you get really smart and these idea

2:20:01

these fairy tales seem

2:20:02

preposterous to you that's right and you don't want to accept that maybe what

2:20:06

it is is a moral

2:20:07

scaffolding that keeps society glued together and it's probably based on some

2:20:12

truth there's some of

2:20:13

it that seems to be a history of the world oh and also the the most people that

2:20:19

i have encountered

2:20:20

who have a lot of people have encountered who are rejecting this religion or

2:20:26

that it's i get it

2:20:27

it's religious trauma i just ran into somebody at best buy recognized we had a

2:20:31

long conversation

2:20:32

religious religious trauma they were raised in some kind of like form of

2:20:36

spiritual abuse and in that

2:20:38

abuse snake handlers bingo and they but but but listen if you want to handle

2:20:42

snakes great the problem is

2:20:44

if you tell a kid to disregard their rational mind if in in other words the

2:20:50

introduction to the

2:20:52

conversation of questions regarding this or that yeah are are are not met with

2:20:56

like oh yeah it's a good

2:20:57

question i don't know uh but are met with you're going to hell you're going to

2:21:02

hell you're demon

2:21:03

possessed so then you experience that and of course you must reject the thing

2:21:07

it's like when you

2:21:07

when you have a hangover and you smell tequila you can't connect so i get it

2:21:13

but the the main thing is

2:21:15

what's what i love about religion or christianity is it's like just try it on

2:21:25

for size what happens if

2:21:26

you pray i know you don't believe in it sounds insane what the are they talking

2:21:30

about sounds

2:21:31

absolutely nuts i know it sounds absolutely nuts now what happens if you pray

2:21:37

just for a few days

2:21:39

what happens if you pray and then once you start doing the experiment it starts

2:21:44

off with like

2:21:45

this is just i'm gonna do it it's probably the opium of the masses but then you

2:21:51

realize

2:21:53

you're getting pulled in not in a bad way but right away there seems to be some

2:21:57

feeling of connection

2:21:58

some sense of something a little different than what you're used to

2:22:02

experiencing and sometimes that

2:22:04

can get really scary for people and they're like this no it's getting me and it's

2:22:09

like to me that that

2:22:12

should be the experiment of any um anyone who's skeptical and if you're

2:22:16

skeptical about christianity

2:22:18

or any religion you should be you should 100 be skeptical of oh it's like what

2:22:24

mark twain said

2:22:25

religion is what happened when the first con man met the first fool with you

2:22:29

you should be skeptical but

2:22:32

if you read the gospels and you realize like the part of the story there is an

2:22:39

invitation to connect

2:22:41

on your own you don't need the priest class right you don't have to listen to

2:22:45

the rules you don't have

2:22:46

to like it's just between you and the eternal and see what happens right to me

2:22:52

that's the that's the

2:22:53

number one thing is just investigate explore and don't let anyone subvert your

2:22:59

rational mind use

2:23:01

that as a form of connect connecting with the thing even if you connect via

2:23:05

rejection it's still worth

2:23:07

like a wholehearted exploration at the very least to experience a cultural trance

2:23:12

i don't think that's

2:23:12

what it is but um maybe what that cultural trance is is a this is like it's a

2:23:20

pattern that you can can

2:23:23

you can follow that can connect you to the divine and there's a bunch of these

2:23:28

different patterns

2:23:30

this pattern might be buddhism this pattern might be islam this pattern might

2:23:35

be even mormonism even

2:23:37

scientology i definitely saintology i think all of them i'm all all of them can

2:23:42

be distorted all of them

2:23:44

can be subverted all of them can have those guys that have private jets and

2:23:48

rolls royces and

2:23:49

you know those crazy arena guys all of it yeah all of it can go in that

2:23:53

direction but all of it

2:23:56

is kind of a moral scaffolding that's that seems to be designed to help us in

2:24:04

this journey of getting

2:24:06

away from the primate instincts that's right and getting away from and also

2:24:10

connecting to each other

2:24:12

and transcending state propaganda like this is the this is like a my favorite

2:24:18

verse in the bible

2:24:19

they're trying to trick jesus they i don't know they're asking imagine being so

2:24:23

cocky you think you

2:24:24

can trick jesus i would try i got it maybe that would be cool if you could i'm

2:24:29

gonna bring out three

2:24:30

card money we're gonna get him imagine jesus walking down new york city and

2:24:35

watching him play three card

2:24:36

money and getting suckered in you're like hey i thought you were the fucking i

2:24:40

thought you were

2:24:40

the guy hey man that don't don't do that he's you don't understand it's not the

2:24:46

same card oh my god

2:24:47

jesus christ you don't have any more shekels you're out of shekels is that what

2:24:50

they use shekels i guess

2:24:52

what'd they have back then i don't know denarius what kind of uh dollars did

2:24:56

they have what uh unit

2:24:58

of money was around when jesus question super good question i wish i knew it be

2:25:02

a clever thing to say

2:25:05

shekels sounds good though shekels is a fun name for coins shekels shekels

2:25:10

was it shekels i got a this comes up with the phoenician shekel and a half let's

2:25:16

fucking go fucking shackles let's go it's shekels son there you go there's oh

2:25:21

yeah so imagine jesus

2:25:22

blew all his shekels on three card money jesus jesus we just stick to being the

2:25:27

messiah what are you

2:25:27

doing yeah why are you here again he gets hustled in a basketball game like jesus

2:25:32

you're gonna question

2:25:33

you're not good at basketball you can't run in those fucking sandals are you

2:25:35

doing this you can

2:25:36

turn water into wine let's sell fucking money in basketball he plays horse with

2:25:39

people he keeps

2:25:40

missing wow that would really be weird jesus would have to be really good at

2:25:45

badminton if he plays

2:25:47

badminton he's gotta win he's gonna win well i'm not gonna believe you're jesus

2:25:50

if you can't wrestle

2:25:51

if you're bad at pinball if you get pinned if you get pinned really quick in a

2:25:54

wrestling match like

2:25:55

what the dude dude dude yeah he's got to be good at everything somebody rear

2:25:59

naked chokes jesus

2:26:00

30 seconds in a match you're doing it you're like i don't know he's not tapping

2:26:03

out he doesn't know

2:26:04

what the fuck to do he doesn't know shit he's a white belt why is he in this

2:26:07

competition

2:26:08

there's a jesus goes to the uf open golf tournament and everybody's like jesus

2:26:14

fucking sucks at golf he can't even fucking hit the ball right somebody show

2:26:18

him how to hit the

2:26:19

ball he doesn't know why why did you let jesus compete in the ufc jesus is

2:26:23

playing pickleball

2:26:25

just falling down not good at pickleball i know and that people would be so

2:26:29

disappointed in jesus

2:26:30

everything the way he walked just bowled a gutter ball every time you fucking

2:26:34

dummy what are you doing

2:26:36

farts in the car just that you gotta like dude roll the window down just yeah

2:26:42

everybody smelled back

2:26:43

then i think farts probably like cleared the air a little oh something

2:26:47

interesting to smell some new

2:26:49

thing instead of these shitty asses that i smell everywhere i just read that

2:26:53

they used to think

2:26:54

smelling farts in a jar would cure diseases what it doesn't

2:27:00

how do you save a fart in a jar cancel my subscription

2:27:03

how do you mail that there was some young lady that we we featured on the

2:27:10

podcast at one point in

2:27:11

time was making a ton of money farting in jars yeah selling farts dude that's

2:27:15

incredible i hope she

2:27:16

didn't even fart in those jars i hope those dummies it wasn't even that long

2:27:20

ago it says 2014. no

2:27:22

smelling farts in a jar does not cure disease it does look and you don't know

2:27:26

you don't know read

2:27:28

that in 2014 news my chiropractor told me that smelling farts was the way to go

2:27:32

these claims are

2:27:33

based on a university of exeter press release that was not about smelling farts

2:27:37

imagine have you heard of this this new medication they're giving cows to make

2:27:47

them fart less

2:27:48

there you go uh during the plague oh yeah yeah that almost what you said that's

2:27:52

not that's not far

2:27:53

out from what this says just something better the great plague of london in the

2:27:57

1600s was a scary

2:27:59

time the public was willing to just stay healthy including sniffing a jar of

2:28:04

their own farts

2:28:05

back then doctors were apparently convinced that the plague was spread via

2:28:10

deadly air vapor and that

2:28:12

a foul smelling substance could dilute the pollution as such some locals

2:28:17

apparently took to storing their

2:28:19

farts in jars just in case the situation suddenly demanded a quick whiff honey

2:28:24

open the fart cabinet

2:28:26

open the old vintage farts i'm gonna get them farts from when i was 23 and i

2:28:30

had a good gut biome

2:28:32

dude like that's so hilarious that is so crazy i want to know how long it

2:28:38

lasted because i for what i

2:28:40

understand that you can't really fart in a jar and keep it there by the time

2:28:44

you seal it up it's probably

2:28:45

sealed up with so much oxygen there's only one way to find out and get ari get

2:28:50

ari to fart in a jar and

2:28:51

smell it in there and lie to you he's so gross

2:28:55

ari just shits publicly he's out of his mind how do you get the fart in the jar

2:29:01

i guess you put the

2:29:02

jar up to your asshole when you about you think a cap but then you got to get

2:29:05

the cap real quick like a

2:29:07

ninja jamie can you you're gonna get a little bit of air in there i'm looking

2:29:10

at you know what i mean

2:29:10

it's like moonshine it's not 100 alcohol you don't you use a tube if you're a

2:29:14

pro

2:29:15

yeah you would use a tube a tube going into the jar you would have like a

2:29:19

diaper a big like

2:29:20

like a gas diaper with like completely sealed to your ass like a covid mask and

2:29:26

then you would

2:29:26

just fart into that tube and it would go into that jar and then you'd have you'd

2:29:30

do it all day

2:29:31

long right there'd be a robot there that would like seal that jar how do you

2:29:34

know it's pure how

2:29:36

do you know when your jar is what if you gave me a half-assed fart i want a

2:29:39

real fart or just a

2:29:41

the jar only has like a yeah a little fart i want a 3 30 a.m taco bell fart

2:29:47

dude that's what i want

2:29:48

where you're in the car and you buy taco bell and you immediately hate yourself

2:29:53

here's a study on it

2:29:54

they uh used it depends on the there's a study on farts versus metal containers

2:30:00

oh my god dissipates

2:30:02

over days obviously who did oh my god some awesome scientists howl shine and

2:30:08

jacks yeah why is it

2:30:10

called anal wait that can't be real anal chemistry no it's like uh no that's my

2:30:14

study my field of

2:30:16

study you know chemistry just go with that oh my god jesus christ literally i

2:30:22

mean you um farting in

2:30:24

jars the sad thing the sad thing about that article though because it comes out

2:30:28

and so that means

2:30:29

there's people who think farts in a jar can cure cancer and that means that

2:30:32

somebody was laying in

2:30:34

bed dying and someone who loved them came up and said i know this is going to

2:30:38

seem weird dad

2:30:39

but i need you to smell this and like there there was people dying again this

2:30:44

brings us back to the

2:30:45

placebo effect could work because i think almost everything works it just doesn't

2:30:50

work when your

2:30:51

streets are filled with sewer you know i think that was what everybody was

2:30:55

dying of back then they had

2:30:56

horrible fucking terribly unsanitary conditions everywhere everything was

2:31:01

covered in shit yep

2:31:02

everything was shitty water you're shitting in your bed no running water and

2:31:06

you have a bunch of

2:31:07

people living together you have horrible diseases according to the their study

2:31:11

one of those jars they found

2:31:13

could maybe have the fart from the 17th century wow now that's a horror movie

2:31:18

right there like you

2:31:20

find like a 17th century fart you sniff that fart and then you immediately turn

2:31:25

into like one of those

2:31:26

28 days later zombies and then it spreads this virus has had a chance to adapt

2:31:33

and evolve and plan its

2:31:34

strategy while trapped inside this jar and get back at the humans because it

2:31:38

doesn't have to die so it

2:31:39

lives in this guy's butt gas and then it evolves over hundreds of years figure

2:31:44

out through the multiverse

2:31:46

how to communicate with other other bacteria everywhere and devise a strategy

2:31:51

yep to morph itself over

2:31:52

thousands and thousands of generations of new viruses to become some crazy rage

2:31:58

virus just by the way man later which there's a new one coming out maybe here's

2:32:02

the other thing

2:32:03

maybe that is the fountain of youth maybe the thing they're trying to hide from

2:32:08

us the most obvious

2:32:09

thing is if you smell an aged fart

2:32:15

you're gonna do reverse age yeah maybe uh snake oil works there's a science on

2:32:19

harvest how do you

2:32:21

harvest the best way to harvest thank you oh science super science oh there you

2:32:25

go not not don't

2:32:26

try to catch the fart in there you know yeah we gotta be accurate can you can

2:32:30

be accurate with your

2:32:31

farts jamie can you youtube smelling how do you close the gap you gotta slide a

2:32:37

lid in there you might get a

2:32:38

little water in your farts yeah that's fine no you can't have farts and the

2:32:43

water together they're

2:32:44

separate they're separate things oh so when you open it it'll be pure farts but

2:32:47

a little bit of

2:32:47

water at the bottom how do i know that the water isn't diluting and slowly

2:32:50

washing the farts over

2:32:51

200 years that's not how jamie can you scroll up a little bit yeah fart science

2:32:56

in my degree in fart

2:32:58

science oh is it sorry can you pull that up again just i find it interesting

2:33:01

that someone wrote an

2:33:02

entire essay on how to do this will you go back to the beginning i just want to

2:33:06

read the how do you

2:33:07

introduce the story here how do you bring this up to a person where you want to

2:33:12

grant yeah i

2:33:13

recently caught my four-year-old nephew attempting to fart into a jar in the

2:33:16

hopes of saving it for

2:33:17

later to surprise grant this is not the first time i've encountered a little

2:33:24

boy with a dream of

2:33:26

bottling his own farts years ago my younger cousin let's call him jay had a

2:33:31

whole shelf of dated

2:33:33

mason jars in their barn he was very proud of his collection that kid is

2:33:38

killing cats that's a

2:33:39

fucking serial killer he's got a fucking shelf of dated jars of his farts what

2:33:45

a fucking psychopath

2:33:46

jeffrey dahmer he has nothing better to do than just fart in jars i want to

2:33:51

show you my jar collection

2:33:53

those are my farts now that's new year's eve he's torturing animals that's a

2:33:56

fart when september 11th

2:33:58

that's a fear fart oh my god oh my god wow duncan we gotta wrap this up

2:34:09

unfortunately what a joy

2:34:11

what a joy always thanks for having me on bro i feel like we could just do

2:34:14

another eight hours in a row

2:34:16

easily easily easily i didn't even have to be once i know i like me either i

2:34:21

don't know what happened

2:34:22

usually you have to piss like four times for this i know we were locked in uh i

2:34:25

appreciate you very

2:34:26

much brother likewise i love you to death you're one of my favorite people you

2:34:29

really are you are too

2:34:30

man you're a real treasure thank you these are some of my favorite podcasts of

2:34:34

all time this is a weird

2:34:35

combination of the two of us i love it we sync up in the weirdest way man it's

2:34:40

the best man it is uh

2:34:43

that's it man i love you merry christmas i love you too harry christian merry

2:34:57

christmas bye