#2017 - Bryan Callen

That's wild. Yeah between that and BPC 157 which is a body protecting compound 157 I think it's called. It's a peptide. That's it body protecting compound sounds like a complete marketing thing This is a body protecting compound. It's like human armor. Yeah, it's an exoskeleton. Just take it don't ask questions It's made out of spider skin. Yeah, the problem is I don't know like I told you I called you I was I call I call you up and I'm like dude supplements work Hey fuck oh I've been saying that since I was 35 Yeah, you you fell into this all you need is a good diet thing. Well, cuz yeah, they'll teach you that well I talked to doctors when I did my podcast. I had guys who are like now I don't do it people who worked at Harvard I was like, do you take stem? Do you take supplements? I don't but then you look at them and you're like well But you're not you don't do any sports. You got to talk to a doctor. That's jacked like Huberman Yeah, Jack's I did that guy Jack's are Norton yeah, sure Norton Andy Galvin Andy Galpin. Yep. Yeah scientists that are fit. Yeah, talk to those guys Yeah, they'll all tell you supplements are valuable. Yes. Well, I had them look under my hood that rapid health at Dan Garner Andy Galvin and Then they just prescribed me just some stuff not a lot of stuff like, you know, just like a multivitamin CQ 10 Tonk at Ali brings your testosterone a little up a little bit. I got a story about this I got a story about this now. I don't need that by the way. My testosterone was 700, but that's good But my estrogen levels were at like 37 bitch. I'm a bitch. No, this is good So I have to make a speech at my friend's wedding I I don't know what's going on with me, but I'm getting a little I'm looking in the mirror And I'm getting for the first time I'm like a little soft Around the old hips in the back and I'm like, all right, I'm getting older. But this can't be this can't be No, no, no, no, no. Oh, there's a twist. Okay, then I'm then I'm with my wife and I'm crying Overshit I see in a I don't know a scene in a rom-com or a fucking commercial And I'm I'm getting I'm not kidding. I'm you know, I'm dead behind the eyes. You've known me a long time I'm not a very emotional. I'm certainly not gonna share my emotions with you, but I'm Bursting into tears at a commercial now whole place. Yeah now a depressing commercial I gotta make a speech at my boy Tarte's wedding Emotional that's probably part of why you were emotional your friend was getting married. He I get emotional weddings. I'll admit that okay I love it and my friends getting married his mother's an Afghan refugee I know she went through a lot of stuff so it's a min emotional time, but I'm there to be funny and make a speech That's what I'm there for. It's a festive moment. I Couldn't get through the speech sir. You're crying in the middle of it. I started crying so hard. I Started crying that I I couldn't finish speech and I couldn't get it together. Oh, I thought something's wrong Well, but why is it I was taken men. I know have to think that oh you're taking Propecia I was taking Propecia and I was taking Propecia and it was Raising my estrogen levels and it was the it was binding my testosterone up There's topical stuff that you can use to keep whatever Hacking chemotherapy hair you have brothers. Oh, yeah, bro. I'm going bald. I don't give a fuck I'm not gonna be bursting into tears for you right listen man I love being bald I really do if I had season if I could grow a full out of hair I would 100% shave my head you I just yeah, let it grow stubbly yeah But then I'd shave it again it stops you from having to have any uncomfortable conversations with barbers. Oh my god Well sometimes they'll tell you a story and then they're holding the scissors and I told that motherfucker and you're like Oh my god. Yeah, please cut my hair. Yeah, don't just fucking kidnap me Got some with me and forced me to listen to this story that has no ending About someone who disrespected you at work like oh, no, do you know what I have? I have a weird thing where if you clip Scissors near my ear. I start getting a tickly sensation in my back and I start to twitch. Oh, yeah From when you were kid, maybe I don't know it's just a it's a nerve thing I start to like it's like when somebody blows in your ear like that I haven't had a haircut in like 12 years. Yeah, I just go Yeah, I keep one here too like if I need a little touch-up just fun. Yeah, I cut my own hair Yeah, looks like it Do you have a flow somebody took a picture of my might be I was with my kid They took a picture of my profile and literally on the plane on the way here and I looked at my profile And I and I just I texted my wife. I go listen. I know I'm very ugly I don't know how you went from she dated like a black professional athlete I thought you went from chocolate and jacked to medium Narrow gray and wrinkled and I don't get it. It was just stop thinking about yourself. I know that's the problem Well at life no, I'm thinking about you got to be nice to yourself sure and I'm not good at that. Oh Okay, but you got to learn how to talk you got to learn how to Tell it be truthful all the way across the board but with yourself and then be nice to yourself, man It's one of the reasons why I work out so hard Because when I work out really hard, I have respect for myself. Yes You know, yeah, if you force yourself to do something for that day I know I'm not a lazy piece of shit for that day I know I'm focused for that day when I'm done. I'm like, I know who I am I get shit done That's exactly. Yeah, my philosophy on all that sort of self-restraint and discipline is that every time you do something like that It's a victory every time you don't do it. It's a defeat and in my opinion you get weaker It's not about getting your body stronger and you know, we're all flesh and blood you can take me out with fucking Yeah, it's more about the the fact that no matter what's going on in my life I show up I think mental resilience is like cardiovascular fitness I think you have to work on it all the time one hunt it never it never ends and I think that's the same with Comedy, I know that's the same with archery. I know that's the same with playing pool. I know that's the same with jiu-jitsu It's one of those things where these are all perishable skills and I think mental resilience is a perishable skill Or it is and it's a perishable Minute by minute. Yes, and you can never let off It's it's like, you know You get to a point when your life or maybe you have a bunch of goals and you scratch them off That in some ways the lost most lost I was at 50 I think I'd kind of like I were drew a line through a lot of the things I wanted I came to LA to do and What I realized was that I'm not made to just I you you you need a challenge but more importantly, I think there's something that you gain from the idea that Anything that that happens to you. I don't care especially bad things especially discomfort, especially something new especially something that's painful or Creates anxiety or just the unknown. I think that that is all of those things can truly be looked at as good and the reason they should be looked at as good is And more in fact the better for you than the good things that happen a lot of times is a very simple reason It's it's if you take the if you take the perspective that it is you can call it God the universe I don't care what you call it. It is the order of things Instead of looking at what you can get from the universe Try to look at it is what the universe is trying to get from you. So anything you go through that's difficult That's very uncomfortable is there To make you grow there are hidden gifts in that great unknown in that chaos and if you embrace it Properly you will come out the other side Proud of yourself much stronger and with deeper understanding maybe more empathy at the end of the day for everything Yeah, it's that old expression. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger for real for real. It really does work that way Yeah, it just it's just like lifting weights Why do you get stronger you get stronger because you're forcing your body to go through something very difficult Mm-hmm, but do you ever have this like with stand-up? I went to I'm over it now and I'm Bro I was there for six months I think mushrooms well, it's steroids for comedy mushrooms are 100% both of them Dude mushrooms make me so much nicer and so much more connected to my material Like when I when I do stand up on mushrooms. Yeah, I am just like so locked into what I'm saying Yes, I'm never like press and play I'm like really into what I'm saying. I'm really thinking about what I'm saying. I did acid for the first time Oh, yeah, and that was uh, I that was very interesting and then I had a Set a 45-minute set. I was closing out the show in Venice and I was still very much in the Mix of what what was going on with me and I remember saying to my buddy Kaj. I go dude I don't know how I'm gonna do this I actually don't know how I'm gonna do it and then I saw they had a picture of me from like ten years ago and I don't know how I did it, but I was I started having I started giving my younger self-advice on stage And it works. I was just improvising what I worked It was it was one of the best sets I've ever had in my life and I'm not kidding Isn't that weird because you don't want to try to repeat that? No, you don't want to get you want to do acid every time I do stand up. I Wouldn't mind trying though. You will go so far gone. You'll be gone. Yeah, you can't you can't I was coming I was on the tail end of it. Mm-hmm That might be the best time that's the perfect time for weed to like when you have an edible like right when you're not scared Of everything anymore what it wears off. You're like, oh my god. I can't wait to go on stage. Yeah, just be free Yeah, that stand-up keeps you honest and I never want to be Like because what I what I was trying to avoid was I said, I don't want to repeat myself I don't want to be obsessed with the same questions that I'm always obsessed with this Which is really my questions are always what is masculinity? What's the difference between a coward and a hero? I've always been so those questions those of my questions have always been Something in that area hmm because I internalized I think a warped sense of what masculinity is Interesting. So it's an interesting. It's an interesting battle for me, but but now Like, you know you have kids and Like you said you can't think about yourself, you know You get older and you're just more in a position of service, but that forces you to contend with larger questions I think a lot about God which is so you becoming a Christian I'm not becoming a lot of people do although I know a lot of very intelligent people later in life who embraced religious beliefs whether it's Islam or Christianity or and they felt like it gave them structure that they didn't have before and even if they didn't believe That here's the problem if God did at one point in time communicate to his disciples There was no written language at the time and As time went on that when they started writing things down they wrote things down in languages that we don't use anymore We don't use ancient Hebrew anymore At least we don't you know and but ancient Hebrews a fucking super complicated language where the letters double as numbers Yeah, so there's numerical value to all the words You know like so we'd lost all that in the translation to Latin to Greek to English like there's so much confusion As to what the original meaning of the word was I'm sure you've like Read a tweet before that was like in Russian and then you press the translate button And then it gives you this like broken English version of what they're trying to say well without the context of their language Understand how they use grammar. It's very confusing when you're translating things And then you have these ancient ways of describing things Right where it's like it's so hard to understand What their point of reference was like the way they were describing things is it's very different the way they say things than we do So that's open to interpretation and then on top of that you clearly have the work of man So if this wasn't an enlightened encounter with some divine being that gave forth incredible wisdom to people Along with it became there's some fuckery got added yes And so the question is like how much fuckery because you know it's not zero There's never been a Siri never ever been a person in a position of power over a kingdom That didn't lie yeah, they didn't manipulate that didn't control the masses They didn't if they were in control of whatever the religious Documents were for sure there's some fuckery there had I don't concern myself with those details no no I think it almost misses the entire point so what I'm interested in is the idea you know you can get into It's funny. I went to Israel for 10 days right. Yeah, I was excited to talk to you about it on a show We'll talk about it, and then I went to Jordan remind me to tell you that but what would I what I? I What I what I'm interested in what gets me thinking is it's very hard for me to wrap my head around the idea I'm a Christian. I believe that Jesus rose. That's very hard for me. I just can't accept That's not how I you can't accept the resurrection. I can't see that's enough. That's one of those Okay, did they mean by that but I will say this I find it very very intriguing and interesting that you take let's take Jesus Christ and Julius Caesar Julius he's the most powerful man in the world at the time and let's just take any any sort of Reincarnation of that guy you know just Jeff Bezos or whoever it might be you've got the world at your fingertips even someone like Joe Rogan Everybody loves you. You've got everything is free. It's you know it is what it is you've reached the top of the mountain and So let's take Julius Caesar all the power in the world Commanded armies ran everything and anyone would be seduced by that Prospect it'd be pretty cool to be at the top of the mountain Yet somehow there's a guy who was a radical rabbi Really it which just really means teacher first century Jew who? at the prime of his life is killed tortured put up on a cross and Despite him being quote-unquote God or very close to divinely inspired he gets tortured and put on a cross So there's no you die with nothing and oh by the way a couple of crazy notions love your enemy You know Walk walk as a humble person Sell all your possessions give the money to the poor all these things and oh you in your body There's something higher so your appetite this physical frame is actually should be Subservient to a higher ideal and I'm gonna prove it by being on a cross and what's the last thing? I'm gonna say something to the effect of I love you, and I forgive you Not a great way not a good ending by the way not not not not a way if you want to get successful But what yet we revere that person somehow all of us atheist Christians whoever it is somehow Nostalgically or in our imagination know that the way he walked that path Even if it ends in total ruin that path somehow has more power somehow it lasts longer Somehow it has more meaning even if we try to emulate it to a lesser degree Somehow it makes us feel Somehow there seems to be something it seems to dovetail With the laws of the universe it seems to dovetail with something we would call the truth something we'd call Beauty something we'd call inspiration That's what I'm interested in we don't talk about Julius Caesar or anybody who accomplishes crazy things the way we talk about people like Mohandas K Gandhi Martin Luther King Malcolm X People that were emulating this idea the idea of passive resistance the idea of turning the other cheek and then a guy like Christ the Buddha I find that interesting I find it very interesting that human beings seem to resonate in there in when they think about it I always say my best version of myself is Clearing his throat in the other room, you know He's that with you and I called the pesky truth like I gotta I gotta get this shit done over here I know the I know the right way. I know what I should be doing I know that I know the way I should be behaving and I I find it very interesting That if you were to just accept that the laws that are laid down in the scripture in this scripture Let's say the Old Testament the New Testament the Quran The Abrahamic religions I'm just gonna talk about that for a second. There's a lot of self-restriction in that Oh, yeah, there's a lot of prudence in that. There's a lot of It ain't that much fun. You can't be promiscuous Look at a guy like to be number good number. Exactly. Exactly. I don't know I fuck Come out off. Yeah, could be number command office arguably the greatest fighter of all time. He's definitely in the argument I mean a guy lost like two rounds ever in his whole career. He is devoutly religious I mean five times a day is a call to prayer. They don't fuck around During Ramadan, there's no eating no drinking. No nothing during the day. The training is all like brutal and Spartan yeah, and and he takes no credit was he do all the time? He's super no. Yes always he's super humble and He's you know He's admirable right? Like you see a man like that's a man of character. Yes, that's a man of distinction. Yes That's a champion. Yes. I'd rather fight out an atheist than a man coming to me singing the fucking Psalms Remember when I've been to Holyfield was singing the Psalms we stepped in with with the unbeatable Mike Tyson Well, you know that he had the Holy Ghost Father and the son and himself that's four people Tyson was fighting that day. Well and just pure belief in himself Yes, but more and more in belief in something higher than God. Yeah, that's what I'm I I think That we are in deep trouble if we don't Have a transcendent truth. We believe in that's where I disagree with Sam Harris Because Sam Sam is a very smart guy and I think is a very I love listening to him and I agree with a lot What he says but Sam I think Sam makes the argument that if you look at nature the golden rule Treat your neighbor as you would treat your own, you know Treat your neighbor as you treat yourself or whatever Treat on this is is can I almost be proven in nature? It's a better way to walk. I don't think that's enough I think you need you need to feel like somebody that's a hard sell when you do look at regular nature when you Watch animals. I know it is apart. I know it is I know it survival of the fittest is the more this the the clearest If there's like some sort of a mandate for the world It's survival the fittest and then whatever those things are have to figure out how to get more fit because their prey is getting more fit Yes, yes, just this constant horrific cycle of eating things. There's that's why healing things That's why he's saying if you if you're a gazelle and you wake up run fast If you're a lion and you wake up run fast I had a conversation with a friend of mine once he's like you always talk about nature like it's this horrible thing But you go into nature. It's beautiful. I go. Yeah, that's cuz they're digesting They're digesting everything. They just fucking mall toward pieces in front of its mother. Correct What are you talking about that? If you're a bin like what do you do? You go hiking you think you know nature? Like this a bitch. I see at a mountain lion in the eyes. They're terrified It's a war it's a terrifying I made eye contact with a grizzly bear from like 50 yards away I'm almost shit my pants wasn't even a big one It was like a six-foot grizzly, but they look at you so different than any other bear Because I've only been around why I've been around grizzly bears like at the zoo and shit like that But you know, that's a different animal when you see them in the wild they look through you they look at you like this It's like a regular bear like a black bear. They're like they look you like who are you? What's going on here? They kind of side-eye you because they're not the king of the forest So as they wander around they're always terrified that a grizz is gonna show up. So they look at you like They're not unless it's a big black bear big back there could be a real problem because they tend to when they attack people I tend to do it predatory. Yes, whereas grizzlies oftentimes get off my land my kids Yeah, the kids are there or you fucked up and you scared them. There's a distance where they're inside that distance. It's very dangerous Here's my thing. There are two animals I don't want to get eaten by or messed up by a chimp because they just start pulling shit off because they're spiteful Yeah, and and then a bear because cat no, no, I'll take a cat you're out of your mind No, no, listen me. Listen me. No problem. I'm gonna tell you why they grab you by the back of your neck and you go Bye-bye. They just might want to go bye-bye. Yeah. Yeah. I want you. Yes. I do it out of it I sure don't because I ain't winning. I Sometimes people survive there's been a bunch of dudes that survived getting grizzly bear fucked up and they just like face Yeah, but sometimes they eat you ass first. The problem is they started eating your legs. They started eating you that's a problem They eat you it's a problem. Yeah, and it's 1100 pound. Yeah, that's the the grizzly man story Apparently, yes, like a half an hour for him to kill him. That's right. That's right Then and what's his name Werner Herzog is listening. He's like, whatever you do don't listen I'm just begging you not to listen on this tip. Yeah, I'd have to it's the best unintentional Comedy that's ever been made. I agree a hundred percent. It's an amazing documentary. It's and it's a comedy It's a comedy when that sheriff looks right at the camera goes. I thought he was retarded Like come on, this is a comedy and there's a smash cut after that. Where do her as long as a genius? He knows what he's doing Knows what he's doing 100% because there is some beauty in the story and there's some tragedy in the story And there's like this weird human element where this clearly gay guy who's in the closet is out wandering around In the woods pretend I go for a big grizzly bears It's fucking a mate, but he had amazing encounters like he had a an incredible friendship with this little Fox Yeah, who was like hanging out with him like Fox's like when you camp in a place for a long period time They realize you're not dangerous. They just become your friend really? Yeah, man They hang out the Fox is hanging out with this dude the Fox stole his hat They were playing the Fox stole his hat and dragged into his den and he's laughing with the Fox and chased after him Give me my hat. Give me my hat. I don't remember that. Yeah, I remember I was in Alaska and a guy had a female wolf and I said he found it some I think I don't know what happened, but he adopted it and That female wolf first of all, he said you have a wolf. You're not going to the store and leaving the wolf That's not how it works, right? The wolf is always with you. That's how it is. It's not like I'll be home in eight hours. No, no, that's a wolf, bro They're gonna break out of it. Whatever they're gonna do You're part of their pack and you're not going anywhere and and it was so smart that he would bring it hunting and it figured out That he only killed does and so it would point it would point the way a pointer does it would literally Point whenever it smelled a dough and not when it smelled a stag Yes, and then I said well, what about a male wolf and he said no, no, you never was this in Alaska I was in Ketchikan and He said I was fishing, you know, and I didn't see the wolf but he was she spayed I don't know. Imagine she's in heat and she puts out that that's it and the males come around That'd be an issue but the males I said would you ever have a male and he said you'd never have a male I said why he goes cuz it would always be challenging you It would always they're pack animals and it would always be you guys would always be in a situation and you'd end up getting Fucked up. Oh, yeah, that's a 50 pound there's a lot of people that have wolf dogs. Yeah, that's a nice Tim wolf. Yeah, they're so sketchy They kill everything they kill kids and the reason they kill kids is because they have a very hot they have a they're they're pack the pack hierarchy is is Incredibly present in their DNA So what happens is if you have a child in that house when you leave that dog that wolf? Considers that child to be lower. It's going to challenge. So they had too many times where hybrid wolves I'm gonna get I'm sure people I have a hybrid wolves and they're the nicest dogs No, you don't they're great dogs but that a lot of people actually testified at these things at these because the at the Lawsuits and things because those dogs they're wolves and they look at children as being below them on the pack So it's there's always a chance. They're gonna take that competitor out Yeah, it's no joke So no hybrids bro. Yeah, I had a friend who had one and it got out He was living on a ranch and got out and killed eight of the neighbor sheep Just wanna slaughter fast doing wolf shit just doing wolf shit. Yeah, just killed them all. Yeah, just Some of them right just don't didn't eat him at all Yeah, just found out that they were contained in this little fence in areas like that fence is four feet Boink jumped over that fence like it was nothing. Yeah, you ever see a coyote jump a fence. Yeah, they're so graceful I know I saw a coyote deer jump over my back fence with with one of my chickens in his mouth Dude, and you'd that I've been that I know exactly what fence you're talking about That's a seven foot fence six feet. Yeah, what up to the top like it was nothing toes on the top Boing God like like a gymnast with a chicken and so the chicken in his mouth. Yeah What's chicken way like five pounds a hundred pounds, dude? I Don't know I don't know biology, but things about a hundred pounds. What's the chicken way? What is like a female chicken way like about that? They feel like they're about five pounds. Yeah, maybe this motherfucker just with it with it in his mouth Just bound over that fence like it was non-existent and I was like under the illusion that those fences were keeping these cocksuckers out Yeah, of course, well six feet and it had spikes on it. I saw it, bro He went over it like it was not he got his feet on the bars. He just sprang up like watch this guy Yeah, that is insane just fast onto the roof. Look how insane that is. That's a skinny-ass fucking picket fence He lands on the top would do that. No dog. Maybe a Belgian Malinois. Yeah, maybe a Belgian Malinois They would do it easy for this guy Matt Ritlin Mike Ritlin, you know, he is no, he was a seal He trains and Malinois. I had a 65 pound Malinois I was in he was he's in Dallas shout out to Mike and He put the bite suit on I did put the bite suit on and then he had the dog in the car and The handler had the dog by the leash And so he said just walk up to the car and just just be kind of aggressive 65 pound dog skinny little dog you look at me like whatever and and I start going and then I just stick my arm and the thing grabs on to me and And and my buddy Nick who's it was a bodybuilder crazy strong He did the same thing the pressure the pressure have you ever done it? No, it'll give you a new respect It'll give you a new respect for the power of an animal the the pressure through the sleeve was so disconcerting And and I knew excited. I already done it in Afghanistan. I did the Afghanistan. I did the Yeah, bro. Come on. I did the USO tour. So we had dogs, you know, these giant Dutch separates loose on us But this 65 pound dog was doing it because he hated me It's one thing when it's a game of tug-of-war and there it's prey drive this thing had fight drive This thing was like I hate your guts. I'm gonna try to kill you his eyes Just went, you know, there's those grizzly bear eyes and my buddy Nick got depressed I said you're alright. He goes no, I'm a little bit depressed I said why he goes because I I've never felt that kind of pressure on my arm and I'm a really strong guy But I I said, oh, yeah and Matt who's a seal He goes your body shuts down What when you get bit like that by a dog like that even a 65 pound dog a lot of times What happens is the nerves get crushed so you can't use that arm You're in big trouble. So even if you're on PCP, you just shut down That's guys that get attacked by dogs Like when they sick dogs on them those guys are never the same again No when they grab their arms that arm is fucked forever. Correct. You can't do that That's why rot whilers I heard they don't use rots anymore Because they they were harder to recall and their mouths are so big and they bite so hard that yeah It's it causes permanent damage and the cops were getting sued. So let's use a Malinois bite really hard But you can call them off faster, you know, they might bite less with their back teeth blah blah blah Although they inhale you they fucking inhale you now now hold please that's a that is a dog Now let's go with a Nile crocodile or a grizzly bear or any of those things Enjoy that shit. Why are we talking about animals? Here we go video today of a crocodile swimming with a guy in its mouth People on the bridge, yeah, I don't know what language you're speaking but they're pointing down Yeah, poor poor fuck here. I'm glad we're crocodile. Well, you you had that guy on the Amazon You know, he's talking about ball loosely. Yeah, love that podcast But I did not know black caimans got to 16 feet long. Well, my my buddy What he was a green beret and he was the last green braided to jungle training. I guess in Brazil They had this joint task force with the Brazilian Special Forces. Yeah, so Oh, yeah, there's the dude swimming with the body in his mouth. Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's not a good time That's so dark. Yeah, that's really dark. Oh By the way, this is not the same video the one I watched it was a different one But notice his other arm is off. He doesn't have an arm. Yeah, we're a foot see that. Yeah That that's so insane bro, but is this Costa Rica, where is this? Australian, yeah, so they so they so they so these green berets are with the Brazilian Special Forces and in the middle of the night they go get in the water you guys are gonna swim two miles and Then they were showing they were shining a spotlight on the banks the river and you could just see these eyes They're like don't swim to the bank don't swim to the bank but it was all these guys who was a big group of guys swimming and they had to get to a point they get to the rock and one guy just wasn't there and They had a moment of silence and that was the end of that and they they got back in the boats and that was there That was their night guy was taken by a black caiman. They think just disappeared just that quickly Just shoot see you later. You can't do that. You can't be swimming in water when they're 18 foot black caimans Come on. Why did they make them do that? Well, because it doesn't seem wise because if you're a Special Forces guy, yeah What is that look at all of them out there? Yeah, what are they all out there for I have no idea this guy opened his tent and he's there all just there I mean, he probably knew where he was. I would hope maybe maybe he's laughing camped out. That's not good, bro Those are alligators. Yeah, so whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Can you back that up? Yeah Night man That is so insane you go out to take a piss and you just get rolled that must be like a place where they all beach to Dry off or something. I don't know back to God That's hell right there. That is hell. Yeah, how on earth do you think about have you been thinking? Do you think about like spirituality or God? I try not to because it's annoying. I Definitely don't bring it up. Yeah, but you know people on it's thinking a lot about spirituality Yeah, you know the follow-up video. This is in Brazil. Wow. They did attack his ten a little bit Oh those black can as well. Oh my god, dude. Yeah Homeboy just decided to camp out where they where they nest. Yeah, you do that in Australia and they come into your tent So don't do that Yeah It's just there's so many interesting things on this earth in terms of life forms and how they interact with the other life forms Some of them eat them with their face Giant life forms existed in that same Exact shape for how many millions of years of how many millions of years of crocodiles been around? Let's guess a hundred I mean they're dinosaurs. Yeah, I mean they're they're giant reptiles, right? What is the number? I'm gonna say a hundred million years. They probably predate the dinosaurs. Don't they I don't know they're co-existed with the guys imagine a version of them Yeah, I mean that that's probably what life was like 65 billion years ago. It was just that everywhere Very few mammals. I think what you're supposed to do say you're on an island You have to get to safety because there was that story about the guys who got stranded on an island 240 million years ago They first appeared 240 million years ago was a Mesozoic era in the time of the dinosaurs while others have evolved into different shapes and forms the croc stuck The the croc stuck have stuck hmm to this They fucked it up the crocs have stuck to the same structure for the last 200 million years. It's not in the Bible, dude So I don't know See, that's the problem. All right That's the problem. Well, that's my problem is it for me. It's about metaphor, right? Right. Like there are too many contradictions That's why I don't get it. I'm about in details I'm just more interested in the in the overall Arching idea that I do think there is something called truth and I think there's something called a lie I think there's something called a good way to live and a bad way to live and I think if you extrapolate in either direction one leads to Something like fulfillment or who you're supposed to be and then the other leads to who you're not supposed to be That's what I what do you think is the source of it? What do you like where did the Bible come from did it come from man's inherent understanding of his connection with God and they Wrote things down and eventually became stories or what or their real experiences that were divine I'll answer it this way. I think that Anytime you go through any kind of loss or destruction or hardship your You have a better chance at Seeing something you wouldn't if you came from nothing but comfort safety and You know something like the Garden of Eden, right, you know so I think that it's it's There I don't think anybody escapes suffering I don't think anybody escapes some kind of ruin some kind of loss some kind of even age You start to lose all the things you're proud of and I think having to contend with that maybe and and trying to derive meaning From that because if you don't have that but hang on so that's a person. Yeah, that's not God Right. So it's a person's experience with misery and life and reality Led to the creation of the Bible I think I'm just talking about the idea that there are there are things that human beings are capable of for example conceiving of something That doesn't have any material relevance in the world but that later on does so let me give you an example There are mathematicians that devote their entire life to an aetherium It's 350 pages long. It's they they they're 80 years old Six people in the world understand what it's about and they end up Dying and in a hundred and fifty years later Somebody's trying to put a rover on Mars and they go, you know What this equation actually is what I've been looking for and what we need to do such and such and such and such so all of a sudden it bears material reality and I think that that's that that's an example of Maybe something that is grounded in the human mind That doesn't have to have its roots and experience Doesn't have to have its roots in what you can touch and what you can measure but rather what you can imagine That that's interesting to me That's the difference between a human being say and Chad GPT or artificial intelligence the idea that Artificial intelligence is working on a model that already exists. It's it's sourcing from everything that's already been something like the theory of relativity or something like a Theoretical math theorem or for that matter even something that's really beautiful. I don't know what it would be like the Sistine Chapel, right? That brings us to our knees because it surprises us it shocks us it goes beyond what we thought was possible That that I think is what's endlessly fascinating and then I would say to you why What is it? What is it about the human brain that we have a mind that can actually conceive of something like that and wants to? What is it about our mind that seems to have limitless potential for understanding and for creativity? To what end to what end is it's not just comfort It's not just you know so I can have more food and I can watch more stuff Anybody who's had all that sensation is not doesn't do the trick man You can't you can follow all the sensation you want. There also seems to be something with creating something as Undeniably amazing and beautiful like St. Peter's Basilica. Hmm where when you walk in there, it's so Overwhelmingly beautiful that everyone gasps. Yes, and all these people are looking around and isn't that in a sense? Doesn't that mimic the divine force of creation in the universe? right, yeah, you know what your create you human beings and their their creativity and their mind and their effort to express that have created this Inspiring thing of beauty and and you know what show up an hour Nietzsche said about that that that is called When you see great art like that when you do great art Anything like that what what real when you say I had a feeling of all what you're really saying is I forgot I was human for a second or or or an hour or whatever meaning you forget you have to go to the bathroom You have to have sex you have to eat you have to make money Something about that arrested development that that's sort of in high relief You kind of go you just get your odd by something that is possible. There's this there's this it's like a majesty It's like this thing where you just go. How do you not believe in God when I have this feeling this this this feeling of inspiration? Maybe and and so God again, let's be careful with that. You know, I don't like that. I don't say Jesus Yeah, I'm just saying something bigger than myself Overwhelming power of the universe there might be a point there might be a point to this There might be something about like those two different ideas of power. There's power that makes me bow my head I'm afraid of you Okay Which pole pot or multi-dong or Stalin had and then there's the kind of power that had that that Michael Jordan has You know where I look up and I want to be like you and it's the same idea So you see somebody who seems to do what you didn't think was possible you watch Jordan is Prime, you know You watch an amazing musician do something on a guitar like Jeff Beck and create a sound you hadn't heard or or The Sistine Chapel or whatever it might be and you just go how did you do that? How the fuck did you do that? And then there's a similar feeling that you get when you see mountains Like if you are on a ridge and you're looking out and you've seen these snow-capped Mountains and a creek running through it and deer walking by like holy shit is this beautiful? Yes, it's Beautiful and what is that thing about people the recognition of beauty? Like are we the only animal that recognizes beauty? Because we we don't just recognize it. We value it so highly Yeah, whether it's a beautiful landscape or a beautiful car or Beautiful woman a beautiful house. There's there's something about the way things look that to us is just All inspiring and it well, there's there's there's there's a whole body of you know, romantic body of you know true Body of thought that says that beauty and truth are almost the same thing You know, you know how the Greeks define beauty. It's a beautiful way of doing it in one word harmony And if you watch a cheater run, that's what you're watching If you watch even symmetry on a human body you watch you watch somebody in slow motion doing what they do really well a great Boxer you watch like Crawford or someone there's something about where they place their feet how they move their body and just go Well, you're even the way the a great athlete is built is a thing of beauty short like martial arts Mm-hmm. It really is an art form because when someone pulls it off in an amazing way, it is beautiful It really is there's no denying it Also, what I think Justin Gaichie head kick Dustin Poirier this weekend. I know that was a thing of beauty I know it was amazing It was a man were you there for that? Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't did you hear it? Oh, yeah. It was perfect Yeah, it's the perfect kick. Yep. Amazing one little detail dust and Poirier like that And K. Oh him amazing. We had I had on fighter and a kid yesterday We had Jorge Masvidal who I love I love that too. He's the best and Jorge was you know, Dustin's his boy. So Jorge was He said he's at the fight. He's like he kept watching every time Dustin would kick low Justin was kind of dipping his head So Jorge's and right at the start of the second round. He's like head kick Dustin head kick Hey Fuck not not no not I didn't say Justin Dustin and he just caught him and it was just it was just cuz he had his Hand here. Yeah, it wrapped around his head. Yeah. Yeah, by the way, I don't know if you've heard the I don't know if you heard the rumor but Masvidal looked at Brendan yesterday on fighter and kid and said hey man You could always step in the old cage again. Oh boy And you know, but the numbers that there's some numbers throwing around there and I was like I heard those numbers and I kind of went hey he's in and Brennan was like, hey, what the fuck you talking about? I go fuck up dude, and I was like, maybe I'll do it. It's some numbers. Yeah Brenda does not need to get hit in the head anymore. Just well, hey, we're so I'm yours friend Wrestle him if you can he was throwing Derek Lewis out there with no loves good Lord, but but wait, hold on Just hear me out. Do you want to die sir? Hear me out. What? I'm just talking about Just shoot a blast double shut the take him to the ground and I'm gonna have the fuck up. Shut the fuck up I'm just I'm just talking Eric Lewis puts people in neighboring dimensions. He hits you so fucking hard You just cease to exist in this plane. So terrifying when he knocked out Curtis Blazer that uppercut Oh, gosh, please is a big man. Yes I've seen him trade manster and when Derek landed an uppercut and just flatlined him They just face plant that I'm like good Lord. What is that? What is that power? Like I they have the best power in the history of the sport. He does. Yes, Derek Lewis has more those knock out Like statistically, here's the most knockouts more than a now. We asked 14 now, I believe yeah, and he just knocked out Houdierio Dilema he he's a fucking monster man When Derek starts swinging bombs at you man, the power that guy generates is so crazy Even in Ghana didn't engage with him. That was the most boring fight of all time God, let's watch this again. Watch that uppercut again. Watch how he lands. He's so it's so cool. Oh Okay, okay. He's out. He's a great long before that. I mean he's out before he hits the ground That's awful. Derek's the number one knockout puncher in the history of the sport He has more knockouts than anybody in any division in all the sport. Yeah, he fucks everybody up to that Dude you don't want to get hit once by Derek. No, he drops bombs man All I'm saying is there is there a number on a check and he's a lot more fit now, too That was what's really interesting about his last fight. He really dedicated himself. He had a fucking he had abs He looked at the weigh-ins he had abs you look at him like because he used to have to starve himself to make 265 So he would really like be undisciplined about it and go where he had to go three days without eating And he did that a couple of times he did that before one of his last fights and he felt terrible Because he's got to weigh 265 which is to me insane that he has to suck down. Yeah, which that's how big he is That's how big he is. I was the elevator with the ones and that's also why they should have a fucking super heavyweight division I don't you want to see a 400 pound dude? Yes, I do Yes, I see the mountain fighting MMA. I agree. They could the mountain could not fight in MMA. He's too big Well, the biggest guy is Brian Shaw who I've oh my god I become good friends. He's so big. What does he weigh? So Brian Brian came to my show in Denver and I Did a whole episode of two episodes called best of you know, my youtube show with him I went to his gym and I worked out with him and I it was just so much like the Atlas stones and shit dude Dude, listen, he was this is a real thing. Okay, he's 6 8. I think might be 6 9 and he is 441 pounds 465 pounds trim Fucking trim 465 now, so he would have to lose 200 pounds to fight in the UFC, dude He took he took 300 pounds in one hand Joe 300 pounds in one hand look and went like that He squatted 720 720. Is that guy? Yeah, he's ridiculous That's so but there's more to him that but but let's just let's very smart guy though. Very smart I you gotta have him on the podcast very smart. He's about to do the Brian Shaw classic, which is gonna be huge He's squatting a car in the Brian Shaw classic imagine trying to do jiu-jitsu against that guy Well, what are you doing? What are you gonna do? Well, I'm a little obsessed with him because he he He squatted 720 pounds 13 times in under a minute. Why don't we get this guy to train jiu-jitsu? How old is he? He's 40 his smooth. He'd smoke everybody. I know he would I have to do is get him to like blue belt level He's playing with the idea of arm wrestling and Levant the greatest guy of all time He said a funny video going Brian. We don't need you in the arm-wrestling division. He's so ridiculously strong You gotta remember he picked up a Thomas inch barbell He was playing basketball and he was just walking around like a giant guy and you know what the Thomas inches It's a circus trick like nobody can do it. You have to pinch the barbell and lift it up It's it's it's like everybody who's strong tries to do it. You can't do it It's one in like a hundred million people can do it and he walked over and goes Oh, what is this? They go that's a Tom since try to pick it up Nobody could do it all day and he goes okay and just pinch went this And the guy goes do you know what you just did he goes no this is before he start training Yes, sir. Oh my you don't become a strong man, but what makes Brian special is his intelligence, but his he's Super competitive to the point I was he came to my show in Denver and we're talking Yeah, yeah, those are those are over 200 pounds bro, I want to get in his ear Oh, no, no, listen this talk him in a slap fighting. Well There's a video him slap fighting. He's no yes You don't understand how big he is. Oh, I do understand. I saw a picture of you guys next week Yeah, now now he's like Shaquille O'Neal but built like the Hulk, but this is how he is He had he read a story about a guy. I think he knew the guy who got fucked up by a black bear The bear pulled his face off or something like that and the bear weighed like that I think they found the bear and the bear was like 450 pounds okay, and Brian was like He told me this story. I go. So what are you saying? Yes, I Just I just want to know how I do against the bear and he was dead serious ago. What do you mean? He goes I mean, I'm just telling you, you know that I'm just saying I'm gonna give the bear trouble How's I gonna give the bear any trouble, but it was so funny. I think it's sad I go stop it right now trouble. Stop it right now. He goes. I'm just saying I just I'm just curious But he's that competitive. He's that fucking competitive. That's cute As far as human beings go that guy rules the roost that is correct. But when it comes to bears He told him that he might as well be you he might as well be me. He might as well be Jamie Yeah, you might as well be a 12 year old boy. Well, no, no, I think he bears in trouble. He lives there bear It's 450 pounds doesn't matter and but right crazy strong. It doesn't matter. You're not a bear Yeah, I know that the strength those things have yeah the speed the drag the mite force is around with their face Yeah, they bite a moose and just drag it into the woods by the face I'm talking about a 450 pound bear. What kind of bitch ass bear you talking about? Hey, man black bears He'd still get fucked up the bites the bites would be so terrifying They would start shredding pieces off of you and then you you're bleeding and then you're getting weak Yeah, if no chance now now he's gonna be a sweetheart here who's this guy on his back? Yeah, yeah Get some real quick Dustin gets him Know what to do? Yeah, but if you talk listen, you gotta understand kind of let him do that if he wanted to he could have fucking slammed him But if the reality here we go. So now he's in guard He's doing if he really wants to get a wrestling shoes on which is kind of a bitch He's gonna do anything you want. He wants to get too much grip I wouldn't allow him to have those shoes on the fucking shoes off, bro. He's different strong like he'll course You tell you poo well Dustin is a real black belt jiu-jitsu I'm sure he could defend himself if the guy didn't know what he was doing But all you'd have to do is teach him what to do. Yeah, see if you just like put him through like a John Donner Her six-month course. Yeah, he'd be assassinating people. Yeah, you know, you know, we're doing a fire in the kid, right? What are you doing? We're gonna have we're gonna have finally shop get more brain damage. Well, that's I have to talk him into that There's no you're not talking him into that. We're talking what the fuck is wrong with you I might be a check on my most traumatic moments in the history of us doing podcasts together is convincing him to stop fighting I know and I'm pulling him back in now. They're why Hey, if there's a number on the chair here you like the fucking the colonel in the Elvis movie I am a bad guy piece of shit, but how about this mighty mouse? Bradley Martin got a gambling problem or something Yes So is Brandon and so is Brandon bro, I would too I would too do you I can't bet on the UFC But I'll bet on that Brendan Brandon. No, he'd Brandon Brandon is he's not gonna do it until I got I'm talking about Derek is a free agent now and they're talking about maybe Derek going over the PFL and getting two million dollars to Fight Francis. Well, you know, you know who's gonna be bare-knuckling Do you know hurry Masvidal on September 8th? Who's fighting? Do you know about this on his event? Yeah to verdume Junior de santos. Yeah, that's better knuckle. Yeah, it's MMA bro. Fabrizio verdume is in sick shape Fabrizio verdume something happened to him Like I don't know how long ago it was but he just got super fucking dedicated to training Yeah, and all of a sudden now he's got a six-pack. He looks shredded Fabrizio verdume people forget that he is in the argument for one of the greatest heavyweights of all time He's in the argument is the number one guy because he tapped all the greats He tapped Alaska came Velasquez. He tapped fade or a million-acre. He tapped Minnatoro, bro He tapped everybody for a breezy over doom in my opinion You have to consider him in the list of all the greats knocked out mark hunt with a flying knee It's right. Bricey over doom is the fucking man the trap Travis Brown Yeah, listen man guys beat him and steep a knocked him out, but he's a warrior He fought everybody and he beat the best guys in their prime when he tapped fade or it was wild nobody could beat fade or fader was unstoppable and When Fabrizio verdume locked him up in a triangle and you see fade or tap you like whole Lee shit, he's so forget It was just like when buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson. Yeah, I couldn't be done Right for BCO catches him in a triangle Yeah, for Bresio was so dangerous because his guard was just as lethal as his top game A lot of times those big guys with the exception of Frank near who also had a super super lethal guard as a heavyweight Most of those really big guys. They're always on top in the training room, right? They're 250 260 They're just driving on top of you and they're getting mountain, you know They they use that strength in that that pressure as for their game But for a race over doom is smart And so what he realizes look he's already a big giant dude if he develops a lethal fucking guard Then it doesn't matter where he is So he put as much emphasis into the guard as every other aspect of his game So his guard was just fucking nasty against world-class Heavyweights in an MMA fight to lock up a triangle like that on on Fadore Milian echo in his prime. I know I know it's so insane dude for Bresio for doom is the fucking man when you watch his jujitsu Like when he gets on top of guys, they're fucked man. Well, I think it was just his he was a craft Like his the craft like he was a technician. Oh, yeah to be that big but also technical world champion in jujitsu world top of the food chain like jujitsu But with an MMA warrior a guy who could knock you out just a competitor just yeah So like I don't know how that fight plays out junior dos Santos obviously is a elite striker, too You know long in the tooth he's been in the game for a long time. He said some real wars Yeah, he's the shape a fights the cane Velasquez fights. No matter what you do those take something out of you Yeah, those kind of crazy shape right now. I'm sure you know Well these guys, you know the I love the fact that there's other organizations that are giving these guys a chance and honestly I'm a fan of the idea at least the idea of bare knuckle MMA because I think you've always said that yes I think there's something very unrealistic about just opening up and punching people with your knuckles. You could break your hand Yeah, and it's also defense wise when you have especially boxing gloves boxing gloves give you this very distorted Area of protection that you do not have when it's just your hands things Literally like yeah like that. I mean well Mike Perry talked about it like he's made He's the most successful MMA fighter to make the conversion to bare knuckle boxing And I think it's like he's like uniquely suited for it cuz he's such a dog I know such a man Luke Rock holds a monster but that check hook doesn't wasn't working on Mike just plowed ahead and just said You're gonna break your hand I'm gonna I'm gonna lead with this part of my head and I'm gonna swing Yeah, and it's hard to deal with that man when you're dealing with gloves You can't you know, you can't roll the same way. Also like Mike has got some real experience in those fights Yeah, he's been doing it for a while now. You know, he's he's he's all in on bare knuckle boxing. He knows Strategies he knows to punch differently Like you got to think that was Luke Rockhold's first bare knuckle boxing fight Like you don't really get to train hard bare knuckle boxing Yeah, like you can't really spar bare knuckle bar you cut your face out. It's a different thing. It's a different Yeah, so like every time you're in there I would imagine at least every time you're in there it's a unique experience that adds to your repertoire of Understanding what this thing is and how this is different than gloved MMA or boxing, right? It's just different and Mike excels in that like there that is where his skill set and his toughness and his fucking grit Just dominates. Yeah, he dominates people. It's almost a mindset It's a type of person. He's an animal that yeah, dude's a legit 100% no faking it all animal I mean he's not pretending to be an animal that is who that guy is and when he fights in the bare knuckle boxing He's like uniquely qualified to fuck people up in that sport. So let me ask you You know fighting Bradley Martin on the podcast said he was gonna beat he could beat Mighty Mouse But it has no mighty mouse mighty mouse said I'm going on vacation. But when I get back, I'm down They're not gonna have MMA fight. They're gonna have a jujitsu match Bradley Martin has no chance Against 125. He has no chance. This is there a time limit. There is not a time then he has no chance Is that right zero chance? He's gonna get his back taken. He's gonna use 100% gonna get choked up So we're gonna just gonna take time. Yeah, we're gonna lay some madly is Enormous and Bradley is so fucking strong an athlete to he's he's an athlete. Yeah. Yes. No, he's he's a fucking specimen He's a specimen now if this was in a street fight The thing about Bradley is he can hit you with the earth You know I'm saying yeah, like he can literally pick you up and you're gonna hit the earth with what does he weigh? 272 and What's his way? He's 265 but but like His hands you when you grab his bad yeah, so his hands are huge the amount of force yeah, that body can generate if that guy picks you up and Smashes you into the ground your body will shatter. Yes, your body will shatter Yes If you're a human being if he if somehow or another mighty mouse fucks up and that guy can pick him up and Slam him into the ground I don't know how much money mouse is gonna be able to physically do to mitigate that right if that guy knows how to pick people Up if he has any wrestling at all. He's so big Yeah, and mighty mouse is you know he probably walks around at a buck 50 or a buck 45 and he cuts down to 125 He's so good. I know he's but if they just know slamming if they just do a jujitsu match My house gonna get him he's gonna get tired. He's gonna get him. Yeah, he's gonna get tired He's not gonna know the positions. Yeah, he's gonna get trapped. Just that's what you do this Yeah, that's what grappling is on that level. It will be wild to see yeah So much smaller try to do a studio have some mats laid out there's some old videos of Pedro sour Pedro sours a legendary MMA black belt Had a match with a bodybuilder and Pedro sour He's not a big guy. I want to say he's maybe I don't want to disrespect him, but I want to say he's in the like one 160 range 170 maybe at the most and this guy is this big fucking bodybuilder And they had like a no rules fight in the gym and this guy just thought he was gonna fuck him up and Pedro sour just kept kicking his legs and kicking his legs and this dudes like swinging punch Then he cracks with a punch look at the size of this guy. Yeah, but eventually he gets a dude down But look how skinny Pedro is yeah, he's not a big guy, but that's not surprising to me I mean if you do any box around a guy like that isn't you never see a boxer or a fighter like who's that? But what all Pedro's trying to do is open him up for the takedown. This is what he wants So the dude gets on top of a beautiful butterfly sleep sweep. Yeah, I Mean the way did that he executed it so bro and look at the guy rolled him over though Yeah, that's how strong this fucking dude is but eventually get tired. I'm tired exactly this is not as big a size and strength disparity as Mighty Mouse and And Bradley Martin Bradley Martin is so much bigger than mighty. Yes. This guy was bigger and stronger for sure, but you know Pedro sours not a small guy. No Go the blood and shit already Yeah, he catches his arm here. Oh wrestling shoes on to Wrestling shoes are giant imagine. He talked the the bodybuilder into no wrestling shoes. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, why would that guy fight barefoot and then he got him in the belly? Oh, those are horrible. Yeah, just tap. I've seen so many people get their arms broken Do you know the one that freaks me out the most is the komora because that's that spirals fracture of the upper arm I know I'm always like he leaves please fucking tap. Please tap. Please tap. Please fucking tap I say that I am now with like when people get punched in the face too much I don't like it. I don't know. Meanwhile, you're trying to get Brendan Schaub to go fight MMA There's a number on a check there's a will make you forget your childhood He will you won't remember anything below like 10th grade No, no, no, no, no, no, we got to protect our boys brain. I tell I text Brendan this morning I go how's training going? No, no defense. He goes fuck you So I hope he's too smart to do that. He's I don't care how much money they throw at you Yeah, you don't want Derek Lewis that that giant flying knee that he landed to start out the fight He was always practicing that bullshit for five years. I was ready to quit on it Yeah, he took his fucking pants off in the Octogu Right the beast UFC check. I hope they put it back zok. Come on. Maybe it's back up put it back up So he'll like have people just getting hit by trucks and shit. He's okay They said you can't he got a strike or something for that shit. Well, he's oh, he's wild they put up everything Yeah gun shots animal attacks It's like the Derek Lewis Instagram was one of my first place. I go to in the morning different dude while I'm taking a shit I'm like, what is Derek fine? It's almost like you have to be to be a fighter. Oh, it's very well athletes and fighters still up. Okay Athletes and fighters like he watch this guy. Yeah, that's crazy. That is not good. That guy's paralyzed That's those fucking dudes man. Nobody beats their body up more than pro wrestlers You think MMA fighters beat their body up every pro wrestler that I come that I talked to that's been in here Rick flair Yeah, Kurt angle. Yeah gold medalist in the Olympics said I got more injuries by far doing pro wrestling First broke his neck for sure. Okay. I think he had a broken neck when he was in the Olympics, bro Oh, really? Yeah, I think that's what the legend of Kurt angle that he like won the Olympics with a broken neck Of gold medal, but I don't think there's anything harder. There's no there's no no no harder men No, yeah, look at this the Olympic trials He suffered a severe neck injury fracturing two of his cervical cervical vertebrae herniating two discs and pulling four muscles nonetheless Angle won the trials and then spent the subsequent five months resting and rehabilitate kidney dude Think about 96 Olympic trials suffers a fucking severe neck injury his neck and then went on to win the Olympics Yeah, I mean his neck is fucking insane. Imagine something can break that neck. Yeah, look at the size like that. That's a waste Yeah, his neck is a waste. It's so big, you know, the more you work out though, do you how are your injuries? How do you feel like what what is I I always have something wrong? Yeah. Yeah There's nothing nothing you can do about that There's a but there with the way you work out now Like I work out my I still work out with Lou parada the the greatest my one of my favorite people on the planet He's 66 year old guy a strong man. Don't work in his whole life. We work out maybe 20 25 minutes It's a motherfucker. It's a motherfucker But the way he confuses my nervous system and stuff like that, like I always feel good and energized I mean some days will be strength other days will be like what he calls hygiene But hygiene. Yeah, like like we'll do it'll always be something like it'll always be something like a full body movement right, so whether it's weighted lunges or You know Pull-ups, you know, I'll deadlift and stuff like that. But a lot of times it's not heavy weight. It's not a heavy day It's just me going low Stretching it out pulling it up and I always feel more flexible and strong. I never feel injured I can do anything so if I was in Jordan and I this is a dumbest fucking thing I've ever done But I was like I'm done with this. I'm done with being on a fucking Tour and there was this Bedouin guy with a with an Arabian horse I was in Petra and I don't know what kind of me man. I just was like How much for you just to take me on that horse? I want to get on the horse and I want to just ride now. I haven't ridden in 20 fucking years And I almost died because I had no business being you know And you know in the movies where you get on the horse and my sister's like what are you doing? And I'm trying to turn it and the horse is doing this and it just takes off. It was that is like that comedic So you were controlling the horse? No, the horse is riding me Okay, but you was just you in the horse not the guy and no it's where the guys behind me and we're galloping Oh stuff like that. I Know I just didn't have the balance. I hadn't ridden in too long. I just in that balance. I'm on a fucking horse I don't know I'm in your estrogen's eye and my estrogen. No, dude. I'd stop you weeping No, bro. Stop doing my we saw the horse. I was dead behind the eyes And I was so I was sore for a week after that Because I was trying not to die because we rode for about an hour But the point I'm making is that I can do things like that and I never I'm okay without injuring myself I can kind of do whatever it is, whether it's sand volleyball whether it's fucking tennis or it's box I got it now I was in Philly and I got in I was with Jay Rock Williams and I Julian Jay Rock Williams and I went to this awesome gym and I did I boxed for a while That was really fun. My boy coach Anthony was holding mitts, you know, you can really push yourself and I'm okay I'm okay Like I think if you train a certain way you're not gonna be injured right and as you get older I just I don't want my body to be in the way. Yeah weightlifting is very important as you get older Yes, it's very important to keep your muscle mass. Keep your strength. Yes, it's like there's a direct correlation between Longevity and muscle mass and there's also from preventing injuries from preventing injury standpoint Just being more resilient if you fall things along those lines, you really want to be strong. It's not even just for a vanity thing It's just you want to be strong because it's more valuable than being weak There's no value in being weak, but do you lift heavy weights all the time heaviest weight I lift is 70 pounds Okay, there you go. Yeah, same thing. That's what do these kettlebell routines where they're they're really brutal and I do them With long breaks in between them. I do that Pavel Tatsuleen method So what I do is it depends on the day like some days I'll do a bodyweight routine, which is much more cardiovascular intense, but when I do the kettlebell routine I warm up with 35s and Then I do a couple of sets with 50s or I just I'm just basically You know doing like 10 reps getting things going and then I switch to 70s and what I do 70s is when I'm doing my heavy shit. That's what I'm doing like Gorilla cleans where you're like switching arms. That's why I'm doing clean press and squats. That's what I'm doing windmills That's what I'm doing 70 pounds is not that heavy for you. No, it's manageable. It's totally man That's as high as you go and that that's what if I'm having two it's 140 pounds a lot of weight right, but it's the most important things that everything's working like working my back has worked and my legs are working and I'm Conditioning my body to be able to manipulate awkward weights and and do it like with windmills and stuff like that So that's what I tried to do. That's like my overall Strengthening routine. I just want to keep my body where it works really good Yep, and then I max that in on the body weight days It's push-ups body weight squats chin-ups dips pull-ups. Yep. And so that I do this what he does with me That's exactly his philosophy. He's like I'm not having you lift weight heavy weights I'll flip a tire and stuff But he's like I you are you are at an age where your tenons and your joints you are gonna get injured if you key If you try to do that crossfit stuff where you're lifting heavy weight all the max. It's good. It's gonna pop It just is you're gonna be tired that day something's gonna be off. You are not gonna be focused enough Boom and I don't do anything to failure. Yeah, and that's also what I learned from Pavel Tutsilin He's like if you can do like ten reps to failure do five Really? Yeah, and then wait a long time and then do another five why because you're getting the same amount of work in But you're not breaking down your tissue in the same way And he thinks it'll help you recover quicker and it'll condition your body to be able to do this more often Yeah, Lou calls it stimulate don't annihilate. Mmm, right? So he He always you know, you're talking about a guy what I love about working out with a guy like this guy is he's been at it For he's 66 he's trained everybody, you know, and he's done it all He was a bodybuilder power lifter and he just has seen people come and go you seen all the injuries like Dorian Yates Yeah guys like that. They just know they just know a lot They've seen what an overabundance of steroids do they've seen what this does they've seen what that does. So it's all about, you know You it's body maintenance. Yeah body man long just stimulate stimulate stimulate Yeah, we figured out a lot of stuff so far on this podcast guys Yeah, you just gotta be careful not to hurt yourself And whenever I see guys doing like heavy benching and stuff like yikes buddy. Well jujitsu too, right? You that's a good way to yeah, but you can do jujitsu with good partners Yeah, and you know, you guys can both drill you go like level seven or level eight, you know You don't you're not fucking spazzing out. You still rolling. Yeah, you are I haven't in a while, but I'm doing it again I was just waiting for my knee to get better. Have you ever rolled with mr. Ryan? No, I have not that seems like it'd be Not much fun. Yeah, he's much bigger than I ever thought Yeah, I was wrong with Gabe Tuttle who's the head instructor at 10th planet We did it for a while that I fucked my knee up and I realized like I keep fucking it up So I stopped kicking I haven't kicked a bag in forever and I got a bunch of stem cell injections and I did all those knees over toes things Yeah, and I was just concerned with this is this seems like it's continuing to deteriorate And I think like if I continue with the same activities It's gonna continue to deteriorate to a point where I can't fix it, you know, and I'm like, okay I know how this goes. I've seen other people do it I'm gonna do a very hard thing which to hit the brakes on something. I fucking love to do. I love martial arts training It's the most fun, but I realized like I really can't do that right now I could still punch the bag but I'm like for a long time. So like for like a fucking year I barely kicked the bag like I would every now and then walk up to and tap it a little bit but Now it finally doesn't hurt anymore And after all the stem cell treatments and all the strength and conditioning routines that I put it through now It just occasionally gets sore, but it's nothing like it would it used to what's the issue? Oh, I have two reconstructed knees and the left one I had some meniscus removed and Recently like about two years ago. I suffered an MCL tear and I didn't know it was an MCL tear I thought it was just you know, just tweaked or whatever and then finally I got it looked at and so I got a bunch of stem cells on that and that's when I stopped kicking and I went and just did like very Regularly did the knee over toe stuff the pulling the sleds backwards the step You know what's funny about you talking this way? It's like as you get over you get more delicate you calcify and you got a warm-up better and you just get you know I hurt my knee. How I know exactly how oh you were kicking. No, I thought you were trying to do that That's no that wasn't my other knee with Joe Schilling. Yeah, that's my other that knee is fine now Yeah, I tore my meniscus. I'm watching you do that going. Yeah fucking if I've been there It's like shop trying to race Fucking Chappelle in a race without warming up. I go you're gonna blow your hamster both of them Yeah, I um had jeans on and I was 53 with no warm-up and Joe Schilling challenged me to a kicking I saw it. I'm like, okay. I saw it. Yep kicking hard you kick too hard. Yeah, so I did tweak my knee in that but that was Fairly minor that was just annoying and then but I got a bunch of stem cells and fix that too, right? That doesn't bother me at all. My right knee doesn't bother me at all anymore But my left knee there is a piece of meniscus missing. So this would happen. I was walking on stage at Stubbs I was doing these shows with Chappelle and this is during the pandemic So we're backstage and everyone's barbecued and I'm walking the stairs at Stubbs with these concrete stairs They kind of curve and I'm going to turn my recorder on on my phone and I stub my toe I'm one of the steps and twist my knee sideways bad Like in fucking pain before they're bringing me up. No, so they bring me up on stage and my knee is Killing me and my leg is shaking like I'm nervous Like my left leg is you're in front of five. How many thousand twelve thousand people? No, no, no wasn't that many people? It's like 500 or something like that six hundred people But it's actually worse because they can see your knee. Well, they definitely could see my knee was shaking but the set went great Yeah, like no one could tell by the material. I did It was everybody was so enthusiastic We're having so much fun, but I fucked it up so bad doing that and then I started training Muay Thai right away I didn't stop. I just like I shot some BPC 157 into it. I waited a few days started feeling better I'm like, I'm just wear some knee sleeves and train so when I started doing Science well, I was doing you to shoot in my knee Muay Thai in the morning So I've done it loved to do Muay Thai and then come here straight from there Yeah, just crack pads and have a good time, but it just wouldn't get better. It wouldn't get it's also the same knee I fucked up skiing. I Wiped out skiing. I got a concussion and I suffered what's called you wiped out skiing Yeah, and I got something that's called an insufficiency fracture It's when your knees smashed together because you don't have meniscus there and it cracked the top of my shin Fuck yeah, it was very annoying That was my last skiing because like I was going around this corner and this lady was new She didn't know what to do and she's just like sliding in the middle of the trail She just couldn't stop herself and it was either take her out or fall And I fell hard at bang the back of my head off the ground Yeah, the rest of the day I was just I got hit by a young lady She knocked me just I got just wiped and all she did was look back and Keschi and I saw her down in the line and I put my head down You didn't say no, I was embarrassed. I was like, I'm an old man. Nice She was like a really good young girl. I was like she was hot you got nervous I know she was too young. She was like a fucking probably look to you like an old man Exactly. I'm like I shouldn't be on there myself Just but she just plowed in you and Gwyneth Paltrowed you Gwyneth Paltrow won that case, right? That guy seemed like he was full of shit. Yes. Yes He's seemed a little bit shit that I watched that seemed a little opportunistic. Yeah, dude Also, what's he saying that he hit her though? Yes. Yes. It was embarrassing He had all these ideas and what happened to him. He couldn't like go to dinner I couldn't I really thought he was getting paid. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Even if Gwyneth Paltrow really hurt me, I wouldn't sue her. Isn't that funny that people would do that Well, they just wanted to go away shortcut. Yeah, you're a shortcut take Yeah, you know, I don't think I'm gonna be okay And my lawyer is saying that really we need to do something about this. Yeah, I think it. Yeah, okay You go ahead and do that. Oh People who do that you I love the greatest quote I ever heard Jordan Peterson say was in my 35 years of Analysis I've never seen anyone get away with anything ever even once Amen get that tattooed you're fucked and he said you can twist the fabric of reality for a while But yank it the Piper must be paid and the truth will get you so you can go ahead and do all those things You can fuck people over you can lie you can do that. But well, I'll see you. I'll see you over there I'll be at the bottom of the river while the bodies flow by you just that's a great quote, isn't it? That's Sam Tripoli. One of my favorite people on the planet. Well, who creates it? Who is that Sun Tzu? I don't know But Sam Tripoli is the one who says you just got to wait at the mouth of the river and let all the bodies flow by Yeah live long enough to see the the bodies of your enemy drift by you in the river or something like that What is what is the exact I think I believe is the art of war. I like that I like Confucius's notion on revenge before you seek revenge remember to dig too great. Yeah, it's great. That's great Those those wise things that's actually a really interesting idea Especially back to when there's no doctors well Yeah, yeah, that's always When you grow when they would leech you here it is it Sun Tzu Yeah, art of war wait by the river long enough the bodies of your enemies will flow by damn Damn, dude. I like that. Yeah, I think about that when I watch CNN I You want that one buddy you want bodice your enemies you won that one it's um, it's an amazing thing how as you Grow older and you have more life experiences your perspective kind of like Titans and moves and you as you get older and as you see the world with more and more experience you get a better and clearer Picture and it makes you wonder What limited were humans when they only live to be like 30 like how much did people really have a chance to expand I don't know. I don't know because a lot of great things, you know We're discovered or created probably then to for sure you know, you know, I think when there's that when when you're very aware of how finite your life is and when you're very aware that you are Victim to forces that are so much stronger than yourself whether it's disease First of all losing a child, right? I mean you that was a that was a reality a common death So thank you. Thank you. Lincoln lost I think four of his children Mary Todd ended up in a Mentalist institution because she lost four of her children to diseases They don't even know what they were a fever probably dip theory or whatever it was They would just roll through towns and didn't matter poor hygiene Sure nutrition all that you just know people didn't know what it was that people would die of what is it called? Malagra, whatever. What was I'm sure? Oh, yeah. I mean that was everybody Yeah but but but I think that sometimes when you're aware that there is a clock and that clock might ding at any moment Yeah, you know that in Japan when you get sentenced to death, they don't tell you what the date is You you just sit in your cell and they show up when it's your turn It's an interesting idea because you know, there's something about Focusing your mind when you when you this might be your last day and it might be for everyone Things have a different gravity to them and I think that that's where you get, you know amazing I don't know if I'm right about this, but I do think that there there there is something to be said about Having very limited time even living with pain. Yes You'll create some shit you'll create some shit. Well, also that was the only reality available There was no notion of you know, I just need to get back to civilization There was no I need to get to the city and everything's gonna be back to normal again I'll go to New York and ride the subway. Correct. This doesn't exist. Yeah, the only reality that exists is this Unbelievably difficult world of murder and violence. Yeah, but it does something else too. I got a pee you do Let's do do I do I do yeah, we'll come back. We'll come back. I'll secure your hips But here's my thought on what you were saying On here's my thought on on the idea of like when life was kind of brutish and short and all that Yeah, I think it actually so I think it's actually in a way It is it's not an accident that some of the greatest literature was written, you know Like that like Dostoevsky who was you know Living in that rudimentary world and you have these great works of art I think part of it is what happens is if you if you are if you are basically you don't know when you're gonna die because The universe is that much of a mystery. I don't know when a disease coming. I don't when Vader's are coming in there I'm gonna enslave me. I don't know when all that stuff. There's something about creating art Under those circumstances your your mindset you are already humbled. It is not about you It'd be really weird to like build a huge chapel and then put your name on it You know that you didn't see great architecture great buildings that were built and then the architect was heralded Have you never been a Trump tower bitch? That's very different my friend. That's very giant gold Trump Yes, you wouldn't see that as much you see Kings that did that But the artist didn't do that Trump, you know apparently doesn't own a lot of those buildings. He shot the fuck up. What are you a communist? I'm just saying he leases that he puts his name on there. Which is great. What he's so entertaining He's hilarious, but we're never gonna have see what he tweeted or truth social rather No, and he was like celebrating the indictment. He's like one more indictment and then I'm a shoe in for the White House. I Know it's three indictments dude. He's got Taflon. It's it Well, if you if he wins this though, yeah, if he wins, okay Well, if he wins his case the only I think he can pardon himself. No, the only case he's gonna have real trouble with I think the other the brag Alvin brag case in in I think it's New York is a bullshit case where it's this obscure thing You got these prosecutors that are that are looking they're being very very creative with the law, right? Typically with laws it's called meat and potatoes laws You're supposed to when when somebody breaks a law and there's a law that's passed It's supposed to be something that somebody who doesn't have a law degree can understand And like if you look at Jack Smith, who's the prosecutor in this in this January 6th thing The what he's being charged with I think is a form of fraud defrauding the American Voter which is saying I won the election when he knows he lost but he never ever Admitted that he lost he they can't find anybody who said that so there there's all this gray area but the one issue he's gonna have is the mishandling of classified documents because they have them on tape saying I know this is this is classified and Then I think he has a guy he they have him talking to one of his staff saying get rid of this That that's gonna be that's gonna be a tough one for him But I think the other two are the punishments of mishandling class There are people right now who are in jail for doing that there right now and in fact some of them I think worked for his campaign. What is the difference between the accusations against Joe Biden where he was mishandling documents and the accusations against Trump so so anytime a president is Presidents are allowed to have Documents in their possession when they are working on their memoirs, etc now the Justice Department and the affiliated Agencies as far as I understand it then look at what you have and then they send you a notice and say by the way you have These documents that are in your possession X Y and Z are classified you have to return them They give you a grace period in which to return those documents So with Biden and with a lot of other presidents, that's what happens They say you're in possession of classified documents You have this window to return them and then you return them and Biden did with Trump. He didn't There are a number of things that he thought Biden had classified documents that his aides found. Yes, they all do they all do that Isn't that from? 2014 from when he was vice president. Yes, but the issue is not that he had those classifieds I didn't turn them over when they were requested. Yes, I see and that's a there's a there's a fundamental difference there Now if you then are I think he said I could have declassified this but I didn't something like that When Trump said that because but at that point he was a private American citizen and that's where the problem how These recordings how are they obtained? I think they're all a matter of public of record. I think that in discovery Well, how did you someone record him? I think there's lawyers had to well a lot of what he a lot of what a president does When you're doing your your memoirs and stuff, I think is they they record you So you're recording a lot of things you're saying and things like that He was having a conversation with someone where he was showing them the doc. Yes that was not That was recorded somehow. Yeah, they somehow they they they have him on tape saying that so was it Serbitiously recorded. I don't know and I didn't get that from what I followed I didn't I think that was just something that you know Was happened to be part of the body of evidence and discovery what I heard is an argument against that was that he was being braggadocious It they're gonna use whatever they can yeah, and there's a chance he might get off on all of these things But and there's no doubt that these indictments have made him stronger in with his base If the real question is see this is all you're never gonna get people who say well Biden is really old and we don't have an ass Don't complain if you're not gonna vote in primaries We're always gonna have the candidates that the most extreme elements of each party Nominates If you want to Santas or you want someone else you better vote in the primary if you don't vote in the primary nobody does Including me so I'm not you know scolding anybody you ain't getting you You're getting the people that the diehard Republicans diehard Democrats and the most active members of that party are gonna are gonna nominate That's exactly there. Yeah, you want to change the political system fucking vote in the primaries Andrew Yang, whoever you like all these guys That's all great. That's all adorable and the real political operatives. Just look at you and go. That's that's that's cute Well, we'll see it. What a wild system. Yeah vote in the primary a wild two-party system Yes, now the only thing that like if DeSantis Crushes in first of all, I think he should go back to being governor for former years But if he wins like the first two states like New Hampshire and Iowa and gets a lot of press for that There's a chance that there can be some you know, but I don't I don't think so Otherwise, I think the Trumpers are all in the audio recording comes from a July 2021 interview Trump gave it as bed mince to resort for people working on the memoir of Mark Meadows There you go Trump's former chief of staff Special Counselors indictment alleges that those in attendance a writer publisher and two of Trump staff members were showing classified information about the plan of attack on Iran But here's what I here's what bothers me a little bit about all this so The hold on say look when we see what Trump says here He says there was no document that was a massive amount of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things Trump said on Fox and it may have been held up or may not but that was not a document I didn't have a document per se. There was nothing to declassify These were newspaper stories magazine stories and articles Okay. Well, that's true That's a completely different thing then that sounds like they're saying That he showed them classified documents and he's saying I showed them a massive amount of papers and I didn't show them anything Specifically like saying that there was nothing to this class of there was nothing to declassify if he's telling the truth These were newspaper stories magazines stories and articles. That's true You're gonna have to his lawyers are gonna argue all that. Yeah, this is political as much as it is legal Well, that's what scares me. Yeah, people are behind this idea that you're gonna arrest your political rival That's the biggest that's not only that but you have prosecutors that are getting real creative with the law And I don't think we want a system like that And I don't think we want every time somebody runs for office because now now the Bidens are in trouble I mean a hundred buttons in real trouble here Yeah And there is there this guy Devin Archer said that Biden was on the phone on behalf of the Sun 20 times And that's that was Devin Archer who's also going to jail now That was hunter Biden's business partner and he said he personally witnessed that and he said that under sworn testimony. There is enough Evidence to at least investigate the idea that maybe Biden took a five million dollar bribe Whatever the case, but I my point about this is the mainstream media legacy media gives that almost no attention Yeah, and all you have that I think that the legacy of Donald Trump will be in some ways The other side was so hysterical about him being a clear and present danger to the United States and I'm talking about Republicans I'm talking about deep state. I'm talking about Democrats I'm talking about a lot of people that they have behaved in an undemocratic Un-American way they have bent a lot of rules and they're bringing these indictments three of which now I think are four In a period of six months. I don't think we want a system like that I don't think you want people running for office and then Somebody who's on the other side of the aisle gets real creative with with with their prosecutorial, you know with bending the law figuring out The gray areas of the law and now you're spending all your money on legal fees, especially when there's been No answer To what they did with the Russia collusion hoax You mean Adam Schiff they've taken seriously promoted that they promoted that in mainstream media They promoted that politicians promoted it. They called him a Russian asset. Listen Adam Schiff He was on the he was the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. Is that what it is? Adam Schiff knew he never saw any evidence Any evidence that Trump was in collusion with the Russians or that the Russians were interfering in American elections Or that whatever and or that there would may have been evidence of that But there was no evidence that Russia and Trump were in collusion and he kept saying it He kept saying it on every news outlet. He could that's a fact and he knew Otherwise and no one's held him to task for that that that was that was a that that was a lie to the American people It just was and that's that's what I have a problem with and there's been no Acknowledgment like in mainstream media that that was a hoax and that he was innocent of what they were accusing him of none None, that is so wild and they go from that to new accusations So for the casual for the person is not doing a deep dive in all these stories and reading all these articles What you're getting is the narrative that you see in headlines Trump indicted again Trump's a criminal Trump Trump did this Trump You know incited people to enter the Capitol on January 6 because he said the election was rigged and all this trouble that Biden is in now and his son is in was all on Hunter Biden's laptop And we were told that that was there was nothing to see there didn't 50 was it 51 Members of intelligence he signed off on that it was Russian disinformation So, what does that do about that my problem with all of this is that it's it just destroys credibility Yeah, it destroys people's faith in the which you said earlier. It's perfect. It's un-american. Yeah, it really is It's I know you're doing it because you think you want to beat this guy by any means necessary But you're becoming a tyrant you're setting up a system that's gonna be used against you to a hundred percent And it's also setting a precedent of things that we allow Yeah, and no one seems to care because it's Trump because it's Trump He's like a non-human to them like all the rules of empathy and dignity and the most charitable view of things never apply That's right. It's like the worst examples of anything that he's ever said or anything. He's ever done, and that's all he is well, you know I it's it's you know and if you say even if you say that you're a Trump apologist, but like The you got to look at what is going on? This there's there's a massive movement to keep this guy from being president again And some of it you don't want to see happening in a democratic society My worry is that you know I really do think legacy media A lot of these people come from the same colleges the same area codes They do see the world differently than most of us who are out there trying to build a life Isn't that wild it is why that they somehow or another are supposedly representing the Frequency of the country, but they're so off and they think they're superior because they're very educated Yeah, and because they're indoctrinated into this progressive ideology, and they think that there's a mandate to not just You know not just exist and do your thing but to change the world and mold it into these ideas that you were indoctrinated with In in school yeah, and and there becomes this lateral cooperation with with the the powers that be and so they can very easily highlight one story and suppress another or just not report on another and When you walk into a newsroom And you're somebody who's looking to speak truth to power And be part of the the way the fourth estate should really work which used to be that journalists were all blue-collar guys Who've been gals who hit the pavement? Now you've got people that are that agree with the idea for example that You know maybe maybe people who are in power with this education Know a little bit more than the people that are actually out the flyby states You know that that that great I can't remember who said it might have been William F Buckley who said you have to understand that would you rather be ruled by the Harvard faculty or the first? 2000 names in the in the Boston phone book if you believe in democracy You've got to say the first 2000 names in the Boston phone book it sounds very enticing the other Harvard faculty They're smart as shit. They know what's best for all of us let the philosopher kings run it but that's not how our grand experiment works, and I think this is the greatest country in the world because it it always pushes the ideal and the idea that The individual should always supersede the collective that the collective will always become a tyranny and you as an individual have certain Inalienable rights that can't be taken away from you no matter which way the wind blows and no matter how strong the collective is That's such an important distinction It is the fundamental distinction between being somebody who's for free markets and democracy and somebody who is a socialist That's why I think socialism is way more dangerous people all these young people have a favorable view of socialism no No, I'm sorry now You have a top-down authority that believes in orchestrating and socially engineering equality at all costs Which means we got to keep the people that are really exceed you know excelling I got to keep them down a little bit That's why you have Congress people like saying things like in California fuck Elon Musk They say stuff like that to a guy who creates that many jobs, and is that innovative and that much of a risk-taker And that that's what I worry about I Worry that human beings naturally we have an inclination towards competition and We think about things not just for the greater good of the country, but when you're locked into a party war You know it's the Democratic Party versus the Republican Party This is a sports game and whatever dirty tricks you can use by deflating balls or fucking spiking people's Kool-Aid whatever the fuck you can do to Get people to lose or to win there's gonna be certain elements of your party that are willing to do that It's gonna be the problem is when it becomes the intelligence agencies The problem is when when yeah, you know when they're colluding like they're working in conjunction And then also they're contacting social media companies I think I think that some of it is the stuff you've talked about which is this is new territory It's really hard to Deal with the amount of misinformation and malinformation and disinformation don't know where it's coming from how much of it's coming from us Well you think there's any American? Misinformation troll farms yes, do you think the government funds them yes? Jesus I mean it would make sense. I don't think it's done with like I don't think conspiracies like yeah, I think that there are Programs and ideas that might be you know you might set up a propaganda ministry Quietly to combat something else yeah, we did that with Isis they were very good with what they're recruiting and stuff like that Yeah, we said let's figure out a way to To deal with that Case scenario do it to combat this is new for people there's this is new you've got it You know there's all this blowback you come up with a plan and then this is hard stuff This is hard stuff There's no group of people who are so smart and they're planning all this shit good luck too many moving parts in life No I don't think that but I do think that the people who are in control whether it be the government which can contact Facebook or whether it be the the Intelligence communities that say that the hunter-biden laptops bullshit when they know it's not When you have situations where people have that kind of power and control over people And it's through this digital realm that didn't exist before so all the rules that you would apply To the First Amendment outside of that they get everything gets real slippery like this is a private corporation And we can you know this is mal information and misinformation mal information the craziest one yeah Which is true information that may be detrimental or something that yeah? What is the actual definition of mal information, but it's things that may be true Like it can they can deem something that is true mal information So you can have misinformation. That's not true. Let me ask you a question here It is mal information is truth used to inflict harm on a person organization or country so Fishing and catfishing well, that's yeah, but also just that term Truth that could use be used to inflict harm Yeah, well my work. I mean that's but how open to interpretation is that? toxic swatting and revenge porn, but how How like open-ended is that like what if you expose something in the federal government like say what if you're Julian Assange and you Expose that collateral murder video or you release those documents the WikiLeaks documents well Let me ask you something. I mean maybe you and I and everybody else are being Paranoid so so in other words. Here's what I here's my question Well, maybe it's not even a question But you know I you and I and a lot of us complain about these things We worry about the fact that there's a lot of disinformation Mission that the government's controlling this and that you know big tech is this that any other thing but Sometimes I wonder if I'm just being paranoid and sometimes I wonder if I'm just I'm in an echo chamber And sometimes I wonder that you know cuz look man. I'm on the Joe Rogan experience I don't know how many people listen to this I can say whatever the fuck I want and people listen and That could be British welders that could be I was in I was in Israel and an Ethiopian guy said to me as he's helping me with my bag in the airport in Israel he goes Do come from Joe Rogan? I was like I do come from him. I come from his rib. I'm glad you asked. Yes. I come from his fucking rib That's in that's in you know and I can I can on YouTube I can find I can confirm my bias all day long I can find politicians and thinkers who believe everything I believe in and So sometimes I wonder man and look as far as hunter Biden They tried to get away with a lot of stuff that laptop They try to do all kinds of stuff and all we're talking about now is all the shit on that laptop and it's all been exposed and I promise you I promise you hunter Biden and Joe Biden I promise you are thinking about this all the time because they're realizing it's a shitstorm That's just beginning mark my words so all of us are complaining legacy media doesn't cover this and stuff like that Yeah, but guess what the Justice Department's gonna do their job. Yes However, it's very disappointing that legacy media doesn't cover it And the reason they don't cover it because they think it's going to empower the narrative that Donald Trump is a superior president Yeah, if they their narrative was always that Donald Trump is corrupt then also there's real clear evidence That hunter Biden and Joe Biden got how many millions of dollars? Yeah, like 11 million. He made 11 million dollars He's he's he knows his law degree now hold on for a second He worked for Burisma which was and I think he had some affiliations with some Chinese energy companies And and of course hunter Biden's who studied he paints and he has a law degree But the reason I guess paid him 11 million dollars 11 million dollars over a period of I think I don't know what it was four or five years and maybe even less and You know because they needed his expertise on Energy and on natural gas a pair of cents. Yeah, Nicholas Cage should play him in a movie That'd be fucking that's such a good call. It's such a good such a good call That should be the next Tarantino movie driving 170 mile an hour. Whoa smoking crack Job, I mean he by the way, he'd be kind of fun to hang with. Oh my god. He'd be fun to hang He's the dark side. Yeah that dude went hard. Oh, yeah, no matter what you say I have sympathy for an addict. I mean, he was an addict. Yes, he was an addict and You know, his dad's the fucking president his brother's dead like there's so much so much trauma sister his mom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That's right. I mean he went through some shit So it's not surprising that he had he had to wrestle with some stuff and hopefully now he's sober and well, you know we all know addicts and that the there's something about the particular like no one that I Haven't seen him in forever, but he always had a coke problem. He was a really talented really funny guy, but he would go hard dude Like that's an issue in three days. Yeah vanish just vanish come back look like wet cardboard It looks so bad. He looks so dead well, how about that cocaine that they found in the White House and Apparently they couldn't trace it back in the most secure building in the man in the world in the most secure building in the world By the way, cuz there are no cameras anywhere, you know, it's a crazy figure it out And though and the press stopped asking questions, you know, what's crazy coincidence? Hunter Biden was there that weekend. Stop it. He was there Yeah, they tried to say wasn't the White House press secretary said that he'd left but he left on Friday. It's adorable He was there on Friday. It's adorable They made it go away and nobody asked any more questions that White House press secretary if she was Pinocchio. I Think he said with any any White House president. She has to lie every day. That is her job I feel for her so do I and she tries to do the political things with the hands And we don't talk about personal affairs. She's just the messenger and people a terrible job. Everybody hates her I bet she's a nice lady. I guarantee it. My favorite is Kaylee McEnany though. She was the best the best She's the goat. She's the goat. She came over see they're all turn it is always prepared Yeah, she always knew exactly what the actual facts were and how they were wrong Yeah, she just shut them down right in front of their face a big smile on her face. Yeah, she was the best Assassin I'm a sad that's the greatest one of those ever But I feel like that's a gig you could only do for like nine months or you lose your fucking start dying Yeah, like they all stopped doing it after yeah, write a book. I write a book just be like hey, by the way I was fucking I was bullshitting. Yeah after a while. That's how I feel about Chris Cuomo. I know Chris Chris is you know people may find Chris is a dude and I will guarantee in his mind like He had he got a good gig it was great but in his mind he's like Yeah Fuck yeah, if we already know him, what do you know? I've known him. I knew him in New York He's real good friends of Patty Patrick Bette David likes him. Oh, I love that. He's a really nice. No, he's a he's a Trust me on this Chris Cuomo's that is a is a real dude and he's one of us and you fucking love him So you just got trapped. Yeah, stupid show. Yes. He got trapped talk to him Have him on the podcast great sense of humor very self-deprecating. What does he think he's cool? No, I just like him. I haven't talked to him in a long long time But I just I like Chris and how could we don't talk to him if you like him? I just glad I keep in touch through Patty and and you know, we just ran a patty on an elevator No, yeah, she told me New York City. I just had dinner with her complete dumb luck. I love her I'm going to play pool and Patty walks into the elevator and we just make eye contact Time about Patty Jenkins who directed one woman one two monster. She's killer masterpiece. Oh Monster is such a masterpiece. I know it's so good. She's one of my favorite people. Charlie's the wrong We're gonna talk about going hard. It's my favorite performance of all time. That lady went hard It's my favorite performance. All I could think about was how crazy must she be like she could pull this monster out of her I've hung out with her a couple times Monster out of her very normal, but she had a she had a hell of a life Childhood, you know about that, right? Okay, I think it's public. Well, it's not yeah She she went through some love goddamn that performance is insane and to be that hot and make yourself that fucking gross Oh my god gained weight and I know man What other female like bombshell actress has ever done that? I know cuz you know Christian Bale's done that a bunch of times He did it for the machinists where he got down to nothing and then he did dick Cheney where he got real fat He's incredible. He's incredible. He's on another level and Robert De Niro famously did it in raging Well, that's my fifth second paper My first favorite performance is Charlize Theron in monster My second favorite performance of any actor is De Niro and raging bull and he was the first actor ever to do that He gained I think 66 pounds and he's got a frame like me very thin and not a tall guy and gained 66 pounds and No one had seen anything like that. No one was Shredded. Oh, yeah when he played Oh Jake Lamotta. He was shredded So find De Niro from that movie. Do you know how hard you and this is like pre steroid days Do you know how hard you have to train to look as good as he looked? For as long as he and you this guy is an actor. I know I mean Robert De Niro was an actor He was not like a fucking pro boxer who entered into acting he boxed He was he was he was always in the gym. Apparently. He looked fucking great. Yep. He looked great in that movie Yeah had the same mentality. Yeah, look at that God He was just a fucking animal when that guy would dive into a role. He was a fuck Fuck he was I'm so good. He was so good. Go back and watch Taxi Driver. What about their guy? Holy shit Holy shit, was he good mean streets Taxi Driver? What was the Juliette Lewis movie the fucking Oh Awakenings? No, oh fear fear dude, holy remember how shredded he wasn't that holy shit worked out with Lee Haney for that Did he really yeah Lee? I'm down Robert De Niro and Cape Fear doing chin-ups. I'm doing chin-ups. That was such a creepy That's a movie you could never make today. No, you could fucking never make it. Look at him. Look at him Yeah, and the hair Come on when you were our age when we were you were young like that Remember how we were just like I want to be an actor. I want to do that shit I know everybody wanted to be everybody after Cape Fear. He was so good It was such a creepy role looking at with Stalin the background. Look at that That's everyone's fear you fuck someone over and they go to jail and then they get out and kill you And then you get out and then this guy he was so good He was so good dude that and how about him and heat look at how that's how you should always look And he was just a fucking In here at how he could capture a role like you didn't ever think that was Robert De Niro No, you thought whoever the fuck he was playing in that movie. That's who he was the way he walks. Yeah That fuck you say you don't want hair I want that hair do you yeah I want I want thick black hair I can I can comb back just once in my life to see what it's like You do that I want to call it massage in my with oil I want to do this with oil and I want to fucking call my heart Patrick Bette David hair. Yeah, but I want stupid fucking I want to be I want to look like a fucking like a chimp I want hard muscles and I want bad tattoos and a long man I want to smell like bad cologne have Jesus saves on your knuckles fuck. Yeah, and I'm gonna carry a small-pocket Bible Yeah, and I want I want to be able to recite verse. I hate myself Sorry, you okay? All right. Yeah, I'm good. You went down a weird road there buddy. Yeah, I get excited about Brings me back bro. Yeah, it's that that kind of acting is such a different. There's like There's so many like levels of it like sitcom acting this TV show acting yeah And then there's this like what the fuck did you just do acting yeah? I think that kind of acting like Christian Bale I think said I don't like that I'm I make I make believe and I wear makeup So I got to do something that makes me feel manly like starve myself or just feel You know is Daniel Day Lewis totally done with acting is just making shoes now or something no he was a cobbler He Filled it took three years to become a fucking cobble wanted to make shoes. Yeah, I think he's still acting I think it pulls him back in really yeah No like him in gangs in New York was some crazy shit about there will be blood I mean you dad this is another guy yeah, this is another dude who said I'm just embarrassed at being a middle-class Boring Englishman, so I do just crazy shit And I wear other people's clothes say other people's words And and that's what I do and whatever it takes me to get there I do and you know I'll fucking wear that that outfit not take a shower for five days And it just gets me in character you can keep all that shit by the way you can keep all of it Okay acting like salad never started never ate a salad where I didn't want to be over every time I eat a salad I feel like a fucking coward. I'm like. I'm eating salad because apparently it'll keep cancer away It's the only reason I ever eat any vegetables. I hate all vegetables and and acting I've never been on a set I'm sorry to say this out loud where I didn't want to be off where I didn't want to be done But Brian Callen trying to get work. I see what you're doing. You're playing that hard to get thing Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Yeah, that's what you're doing. I'll stick to stand up, bro I got enough there will be blood gangs in New York, and there will be blood to the all-time grades God I Didn't see Lincoln Lincoln Lincoln was that Lincoln movie any good well I did a movie with a guy who was in that had a substantial role Yeah, and I said what was it like to work with Daniel Day-Lewis, and he said well And I went huh, and he goes now. It's just that you know he wouldn't answer any questions that If like that didn't occur after 1865 He wasn't gonna talk to you about Today today. Yeah, it's like at the Renaissance fair Yeah, someone breaks character and the other ladies what's what off now talking about yeah You like you could only speak to him and as literally as Abe Lincoln Yeah, and in fact then my buddy came in and said I'm sorry about all that nonsense in Cincinnati and Danny's a loose is like yes. Yes. Well I We're gonna work on that and and that was that that was how it was dude He's staying here talking to Abraham Lincoln period yeah There's no craft services like bro. How you doing no no no no I'm sorry sir I'm gonna hold that character for three months well You know I did Joker and I worked with Joaquin Phoenix same thing. I was in the room with him for five days and You know when when he came I think to said he was a hundred and when he was walking around He's 180 pounds or something and I think Todd Phillips said something like I think the character should be kind of skinny just kind of said it You know casually like I think and Joaquin I think showed up at 124 pounds and then they were like let's just give you a this guy's got in human discipline They go let's give you a nutritionist and everything else and he said no no it's okay He just ate an apple and smoked cigarettes and when we were on set he never looked at you And he never looked at you one at one point. I went like this I had a scene if you blink I'm out of it But I had a bunch of lines that didn't make it, but I go like this I go What'd you do take a gun and blow your head off, and I mimicked it and I put it in my mouth I'm like like that and when I did that I I fell back he I did that twice on the second time he fell straight back He fell straight back and landed Like it just he would just improvise and do crazy shit where you didn't know if he was gonna even hurt himself Remember when he punches the clock that's not in the script he just punched that clock off the wall and Todd thought he broke his hand that was not on the script I saw I when I saw you know the bus scene where he can't stop laughing mm-hmm I saw them shooting that when I got to set I swear to God I saw him walking and I I knew he was gonna win an Oscar It was that good and I looked at Todd and I go holy shit. He goes you have no idea dude It was like when I saw the fighter Christian Bale on the fighter remember that opening scene I went oh you're gonna win an Oscar this I don't know you could see it You're like you're a crack addict, and you're about you're an Xbox or mmm You see one frame and you go well this is something different is happening here It was the same thing with him, but I watched him for I think was four or five days I was there and I've never seen somebody be able to hold that Concentration and that kind of character for that long well. I was like I could never do that I don't want to do that. That's not fun to be around that was a spooky movie because I was like this is like too close to reality Masterpiece and then right after that you have the BLM riots and the Covid riots and all that stuff happened afterwards Have you met Todd Phillips who writes and directs those movies you need to meet him. I'd love to be he's one of my favorite people I love the hangover He's such a special dude. You should have him on the podcast. I think you'd love him man He grew up like he grew up like in a one-bedroom apartment with his mom in New York And and I think he's just a fucking genius. He gave me notes on a script I wrote once and I was like oh That's why you're that's why you're a genius Isn't it funny that we like people better if they grew up in a one-bedroom apartment with their mom with chaos if you like you Grew up in a mansion on Park City Park City, Utah just overlooking the slopes. Yeah. Yeah Well, you're you know lack of comfort. You didn't have an easy childhood. Yeah. Well, yeah, no, I didn't you know I think it's a superpower. I don't want it for my kids. I know that's the that's the rub though horrible You know, it's interesting but but you know, I feel like kids that are loved for whatever reason do get a certain ambition from their parents and also they recognize work ethic My kids work really hard at stuff that they do and I think a lot of is because my wife works really hard at stuff She likes to do and I work really hard stuff I like to do and they see that I work hard and they know that I have like multiple jobs Maybe part of it's also genetic you rather have that Constitution I think it's genetic with one of my daughters is one of my daughters is a complete psycho and Just like super driven towards things like tries to do things since she gets better and better and better and better and better at them like physical things I Think that's genetic. It's interesting because she comes from like Instead of like needing attention. She comes from this loving household where she gets all this love so she has confidence And her feet are on and she's happiness She's like but she's also crazy driven where when I was driven It was like I want to figure out a way where I'm not a loser Like I have to I have to make something out of myself because I feel like a loser like it wasn't from a place of Healthiness like just now I love exciting things and getting better at them. It wasn't that it was like I Am obsessed with this thing. This is the first time in my life. Well, I didn't feel like a loser Well, that's that that's that Jungian the notion of the shadow like you have two selves, right? You have your your yourself and then your hidden self the idea that you know There's all your insecurities and that that boy that I've been trying to run away from forever that that skinny Boy who is full of shame and full of fear and you know, I don't want anybody see that boy You know that that's that's somebody I always hide with something else right with bravado or with whatever this this thing is that I you know This armor construct. Yeah, and and I think that part of what helps you as an artist or even as a person is to bring That boy with you, you know bring that bring that shadow with you because there's a strength in that there's an honesty in it You know, I'm not interested in trying to present as something. I'm not I am also that other thing that that's there's a lot of strength In in that boy who's skinny and and well, there's a lot of strength in desire, right? I desire for improvement and change and that's also some of the things that come off a failure, right? You have this desire to never experience that again That's a big one with stand-up when you bomb my god or or if you're losing a fight both those things are true Because like you just like oh my god, I never want that to happen again and then you you become far more dedicated it's you have to have those moments where the realization of Effort to reward like what is the what's the real formula? Am I lying to myself on this formula? Am I going to six and I'm telling everybody I go to nine like what what is actually really happening? And the only way you really find out is by attempting to do things No matter what you're trying to do whether it's trying to put together a stand-up set Were they trying to get better at jiu-jitsu whether you're doing gymnastics, whatever it is The only way to know whether you're doing enough and doing it the right way is to see your improvement when it's tried That's right when it's tested and that's what's so great about stand-up And and and and the the challenge of being original Surprising yourself never goes away. It's why I'm so addicted to it It's why like I'm just I'm I'm more excited about stand-up now at 56 than I've ever been it's fun. Thank God It's fun, and it's a beautiful exchange like it's a beautiful exchange for me as an audience member I love the exchange of watching someone on stage kill, and I laugh so hard. I feel great It's like a beautiful drug that you get when you're laughing really hard. It's my favorite thing to do Yeah, like last night. We all went out with Patrick Bette David's crew And I was yeah, and it was me a son of my dare post in and Brian Simpson just sitting across from each other Howling laughing talking and drinking margaritas Huge part of stand-up man. That's what you've created in this in Austin. We don't it's not as much that It's so York has that Austin has LA used to have that we used to come in a store yeah in the parking lot Yeah, the parking lot and then the back bar the back comics bar was always amazing. He's done that with the mothership Well what we did is just take all the best elements that we Saw in the store and the the ethic behind the storm is the reason why the bars named mitzi's yep You know it's it's in homage to mitzi shore. Yep. I'm doing cap cities Polly came to Paulie's was so funny I hadn't seen Paulie on stage in years, and he was so funny. It was so loose How great is that and he's been working he's working a lot, but he's he's really mature. I did a podcast with him Yeah, he's not just a sweetheart. He really is yeah. I'm always happy to see him now He lives in Vegas now. I know Vegas has a real comedy scene man Vegas has multiple comedy clubs now There's like a scene of guys a lot of guys moved from LA to Vegas. He hangs with Nick Cage He told her yeah, it's his homie. Yeah, it's kind of random. Yeah, he sent me videos of him and Nick Cage Do you ever get starstruck with the celebrities you know now sometimes yeah? I ran into axl rose in Greece that was a wild one see this is what happened I was with my friend Brian Murarescu. He's the guy who wrote the immortality key that amazing book on the Illicinian mysteries in Greece and it just so happened that when My family and I were in Greece He was in Greece and so we all met up and he gave us a tour of Ulysses and He gave us on the Parthenon he explained like we went to the museum the Parthenon Museum is explaining everything to us Amazing amazing so anyway we were at this restaurant, and we were eating. It's you know late at night We're having fun, and he goes to the bathroom. He comes back and goes uh he goes axle roses here I go no way and he goes yeah He's he's right over there like as you're leaving you have to see him I'm like oh shit, so I get anxiety because when I'm leaving. I'm like do I say hi I kind of have to say hi what if he doesn't know I am right that'd be weird Oh, it's horrible right so he looked at me like he didn't know who I was he goes Oh, hey, dude, and then he shakes my hand And then he starts telling me bits that he likes really hey, he's telling me bits for me He's asking about my Netflix special. I'm like oh my god. This is amazing So then he invites us to the show so they're doing Guns N' Roses in Athens on that Saturday night And we were gonna be there Saturday night. We're leaving on Sunday morning So it was perfect so we saw three hours of Guns N' Roses in front of this massive Stadium how are that? Incredible they did three fucking hours people don't realize they can fill a stadium still right and it was 95 degrees out and nobody gives up they were dripping sweat. I mean slash was fucking Banging that guitar out. This is that this is the video of me. I filmed this backstage This is the end of the show give me give me some volume so you could hear it cuz it's fucking incredible to hear the Crowd this video has no sound oh really that's weird. I swear to God is sound on my phone Where is that anyway? That's a soul is a soul was he was on the body's on the box see him stand up there And he got down and he cut his hair. Yeah, dude is insane is insane. It was just so cool Yeah, come on the freakiest one for me still though is the Rolling Stones When we went to see the Rolling Stones we saw him at Coda the circuits of the Americas Yeah, and I was standing there and my friend was talking to me I literally couldn't hear a word He was saying because I was so freaked out that Mick Jagger was right there I was like he's really right there, and he was right in front of you like you were you know it was you know Where you were listening to I was seeing yeah, I mean it wasn't that far away We're like 30 rows back or something right, but I'm like staring at Mick Jagger piece of history He's fucking jamming to he's 80 years old today. It's old Biden. Yeah. He is he's old Biden. That's crazy It's amazing and fucking show was fantastic Fantastic fantastic wow they played everything I know They don't play brown sugar anymore though. Why too dangerous come on. They won't play it really yeah Your ad bro So good That's an homage. It's a great song great, and you know they played shelter they played they played all All the the class can't always get what you want all the classics all the classes sympathy for the deputy for the devil They played that they they stop writing they've kind of become a cover band of themselves Keith Richards played a new song Yeah, he played at least one new song Yeah, I think you might have played too, but yeah I mean I guess that's just how it has to be when you're around that long You know you kind of like if you go to see Guns and roses, and they don't play Paradise City. Yeah Yeah, they have to play welcome to the jungle they have to play patience do when you're in Greece or places like that Do you get recognized yeah a lot a lot? It's enough. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of right to be in another country and yeah, I realize that it's less than America Yeah, but it's it's enough. Yeah Yeah, I'm podcasting celebrity is different though because they listen to you so much that in a way you become Like it's um they do know you well. What's amazing is that everybody speaks English? There's so many people in other parts of the world that speak English as a second language And they consume English stuff whether it's movies and television shows or even podcasts There's so much smarter than us. There's so many people that are bilingual in this world in America It's like what are the what are the numbers besides Latinos and immigrant populations in America that are bilingual? Like what I mean I was if you had a guess let's just guess a percentage of America. That's bilingual Oh the percentage of America yeah, let's guess 30 you think it's that high I mean I'm wrong, but I'd say I'd say only because of the Spanish population, so let's say let's say Let's say 20% okay. I was gonna say 18. Yeah, so let's think probably even lower than now. Let's say Spain Yeah, they'll die of 70% sure okay. Let's look Israel Israel everybody in Israel and Jordan everyone spoke English Yeah, I mean I'm talking about the bed when spoke English. Yeah, by the way by the way just very quickly look it up Now you like to hunt all I'm gonna say with your I'm just gonna say this There are there is hunting in Jordan in that desert that Will change your life you want hunting in Jordan I didn't but I was talking to what they hunt which is wild goat which is deer which is everything you can imagine even wild hair and They do a lot of hunting and those desert that desert is some of the most I went to Wadi room that's where they shot the Martian and There's some of the most beautiful. There's some of the most beautiful part. It's a waste is that where they shot that movie Yes, dude Jordan is that's a great move Jordan is so amazing and I thought of you because the guy with this better wind guys telling me How much they hunt because you've shown me pictures everything the deer and everything I was like Where what do you have is we have everything here? We have everything in the huntings unbelievable, and you do it year-round and like even pigeon like even wood pigeon stuff like that crazy shit Pigeon was brought here for food that makes sense. Yeah all those pigeons that you see in your city. Is that true? Yeah Squab squab, it's great. It's what it is. It was brought here. Yeah from probably England or I don't know It's because in England you have a lot of wood pigeon probably England. I've eaten a pigeon if you There's parts of this country where people hunt pigeons still to this day like there's like seasons on pigeons and Pigeons apparently taste really good I think I think we should use your connections and get to the king of Jordan who lives in Malibu and shoots a tarrant tactical And he's a great guy shouldn't we go pigeon hunting instead? No, no, listen to me I'm gonna use your shoes and pigeons if the king of Jordan is listening. I think we go he loves to hunt He's he's a he's a man. You learn how to shoot a bow. I swear to God. I'll learn how to shoot a bow Well, you but it will take a long time. I'm a very athletic guy and I'm good student You just teach me remember the last time you try to pull a bow back Shut up. I had a trick shoulder Andrew Schultz came into the back. He's never pulled a bow back before. Yeah, I showed him how to do it I showed him a line of peeps I and he shot it right into the fucking bullseye at 40 yards He's a good basketball player. You see my basketball. He's an every good he can box too. You see me this time Let's not get carried away. Don't get carried away. He can hit Right. I've seen him hit pads. Yeah, I'm not gonna fuck you up that don't say that out loud He will fuck his now. I'm gonna have to fight him and I'm gonna fuck you up. He's gonna fuck you I love him too. You're out of your mind. You're gonna fuck you up. You're out of your mind He's gonna pop out. I love him. Nope, you're gonna get you like a real athlete and you're gonna panic I you're gonna think about your joints and your ligaments. Yeah, okay, you want to see me hit mitts I didn't hit miss. I love I love volume Andrews an athlete and stuff like that, but you better stop it right now Shut the back. He can play basketball This is I'm seeing Brian Callen getting boxed up. You're out of your fucking mind. You're out of your box stuff You're out of your mind, but I love you're getting boxed up. You're getting me. You're getting me really riled up He's gonna box you up. He's got good reach though. He's a big kid. He's not hitting the miss very hard But it's gonna hit you hard. All right, we'll see he's gonna hurt you. Let's go. It's gonna fuck you up Give me some Although I got a tweaked back. I slept wrong. I slept wrong. I need a lot of time to warm up hitting mitts You too. I love boxing. I love sparring, but I had to stop. I was getting dizzy. I might go back I went to black house in They have a public black house and I went there to yesterday literally yesterday And I'm like they have wrestling they have jiu-jitsu and they have moi tag classes No, I think I gotta be back so fun. It's so fun. I miss love hitting pads more than anything I love it Which I said whenever we do the UFC I would get a chance to train with mark de la grata And I was always always trying to do is hurt his arms. Well, you can't very hard his I wanted to hurt his arms Yeah, you did her his forms. That's a great video I've watched that video a lot. I was ever trying to do just wanted to fucking take it in there I think you kick crazy hard, but you punch hard, too I'm surprised you know you don't want to you want to spar cuz you want to get I don't want brain damage I'm stupid enough. I know I'm plenty stupid. Yeah. Well, it's just the problem with boxing Is that every time I like I get hit and then the next day or you know Wayne McCulloch used to laugh because I was like I all I want to do is even the score and that's the problem and then you get then you start swinging You can't have an ego with that and you have to be able to train with people that can just pull it back Well, that's why you train with really good guys Yeah, not gonna hurt you right and you have to know they have to know you're not trying to hurt them So they don't have to punish you either. That's right. Yeah, so they always have their respect It's like guys like that will say I'll go as hard as you go, right? It's like just be cool and you don't spar with pros pro you move around with them You don't say you spar with good amateurs. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You know, you're moving around And they're being nice to you. Yeah, they're going it. They're going at a five. Yes, like when you see look at that, bro You're getting fucked up. You're getting me pissed off. You're getting fucked up. You're out of your fucking mind fuck you up, dude He's gonna fuck you up. I love it. It looks good. It looks good. I'm seeing you not reaching He's not reaching. He's got seeing you in the corner. I get a little tight like a Christmas tree. You can shut the fuck up Okay, good luck put all your money on me. No, I told you I'm better than him All right, then Fucking ready now man. My shoulders are getting loose. Maybe you can be under card. I'm just fucking I'm off the center line You'd be the undercard of Bradley Martin and Mighty Mouse Johnson. I'm going to Philly. I'll work with those guys I love that. I went in that gym. Fuck. What is that name Percy Custis and where Jay well I went to Bernard Hopkins old gym and where Julian Jay Rock Williams. Did you take a lot of Instagram photos? I did I shot it. I shot it and I was my boy coach Anthony who I love he's got a great YouTube channel shout out to coach Anthony and he held mitts for me and He's a great coach and I watch his videos and I fucking it I just want to let me see you hit the minutes after I saw Schultz hit the mitts. Let's see the difference Where's the video you have any video? Come on, bitch. You know, you got something. I really don't I don't let me see the difference I want to compare compare to better you think so. Yeah, I wouldn't do I think so. I just want to know here you go That's my boy Tarik Azim not there Yeah, you hit a little harder than him. That's for sure. Do you think cuz I was really sparring What do you mean you sparring? I'm hitting the miss I was no but I was that was when I was actually getting in the gym and Tarik would teach me shit I go back to the gym and it was beautiful that fucking dude knows how to that was a He Gilbert Menendez Melinda he trained all those guys. That's that that's guitar. I know he is. Yeah, it's great All right, yeah, it's my coach Anthony. This is by the way when I'm 56 and I hadn't hit mitts and forever This is not as impressed now now cuz I much less impressive old dude. How old are you in the other 130? Shut up. I just had two years. Did you break both your hands? I was trying to I was actually I was warming up here Cuz I don't want to pull I don't want to pull anything. So I was moving around Plus I had like I had real tired and real box. You're already tired You're exhausted. This is the find out what that gym is fuck. What is that gym? We're Percy Custis I gotta give him a shout out. It's in Philly, South Philly Or West Philly, I'm sorry Brian count learning how to box for real Listen man, this is me just moving around. Do you have any desire to do other stuff like jiu-jitsu? Yes, and I want to I want to box some more really. Yeah. Well Bourdain started jiu-jitsu when he was 58 I know I've been I actually secretly do a little wrestling secretly. Yeah, not so secret anymore My buddy I do some Greco and I do some Russian what I do Russian like I do I'll just move around a little bit takedowns. It's kind of stupid. Yeah, but I love it. It's fun like He can he can Machado was teaching me a lot of shout out to he can the best I love that guy I love that guy and he can he can would teach me a lot of like Two on run this Russian arm ties and things like that and and series after that everything's a series, right? And that's that's great because you know for me as a wrestler duck unders and and arm drags There's a whole series you can do off that and I like that stuff I don't want to be diving in for a double and single it and to well Yeah, you don't want to get hurt, but you can still train you can still train it's besides Specifically if you trained you jitsu with the gi with people, you know what they're doing Like there's guys that are in their fucking 60s that roll all the time. Yes all I will do that I could find the time to be honest with you, but I got yeah kids. Yeah, I get it You got to pick your poison. Yeah, yeah, and you got to pick your distractions and your hobbies and stuff That's why I won't fuck with golf So you and Jamie out there whacking that golf ball around like you can keep that I know that one so you especially You can't because you'll get crazy. I know you you're you're you're a fucking maniac. It looks like too much fun It looks the people that do it all love it No, dude, they can't wait to get out because you love pool and you love archery Those kinds of skill sets where it's like all about your mind and stuff you would obsess over it. Yeah, I'm sure I would Yeah, I see Jamie. He's out there whacking that fucking ball every day. It's my dad. It's my dad at 83 years old I love my father because at 83 those DJ. J. Kelly's gotten in the golf. He's like making everything. It does goes viral He's having a great time. He thinks he can go pro. No, he can't but he's not bad, but he can So if he's not good enough to be pro like how good is he is he good like Santino good Santino? I was really good right. He's not as good as still in first year. How good a Santino I don't know but I Santino. I think is like isn't he a scratch golfer. Three. That's crazy That's crazy good to be in but but like my father at 83 came in the other day and this is what I love about I'm literally came in and goes I Figured out what was I was doing wrong and I go what he goes I wasn't moving my and he had just had a lesson. He was like I got it You know that that's how obsessed he is. Mm-hmm. You gotta love that. Yeah, you gotta love it. That's the same thing with pool it's like the reason why people like why is people waste their time playing that because every time you make a shot it requires all of your Concentrations it requires and the more you can keep it together and run out rack after rack after rack you get this like euphoric Mindset yes, it just like locks you into the task. I think it forces you to overcome your liabilities I think it actually forces you to Somehow contend with the things that are holding you back. Well your liabilities During shots like whether it's an archery shot or a pool shot are distractions doubts Yeah, there's a lot of things not concentrating on the task But if you can just Block all that out and just purely concentrate on the task. It's like a form of meditation. That's right That's right, particularly archery. I think because it's the same sort of position You're in the same position every time like every time you draw back Your shoulders relaxed your back is taught you're on the string. You just gently pulling through that trigger It's the same position every time and you're trying to hit this thing for with me. It's 73 yards I'm trying to hit this thing. That's this big and it's just Yeah, and to do it, right you cannot be thinking about anything else, right? It all goes away right and there's like a mind-cleansing aspect to that. Yes, I agree a hundred percent I talked to John Dudley about that. I went to any stops wedding and John John's a giant He's a giant stud talk about being built. Well, just a natural athlete, you know Yeah, he's a great guy and he's a masterful archery and I guess he is Master because I was kind of asking him about the principles bring around it and I realized very quickly that this guy could Probably talk to you for a year before you even picked up a bow about his philosophy around it Oh, yeah, no, he mean he teaches archery So he has like the most extensive video collection if you go to knock on archery on YouTube, it's knock on like NO CK It's the most extensive like archery Instructionals that you could get anywhere and the best instruction you can get everywhere. He does it perfectly He tells every he teaches you perfect form He gives you like exactly what you need to do to tune your arrows and tune your bow and I mean he puts it all up there For free. Well, I think I said I've said this before I think if you really want to get to know yourself get really good at least one thing Just get really good at one. Yeah, because the what it takes to get really good at that one thing Forces you to confront the things that are holding you back in general and I don't know what those are But all everybody has them, you know, everybody has hang ups. Everybody has insecurities everybody has you know Even resentments, you know, like it's really hard to go through life without having some resentment for people. Mm-hmm and I think One of the most valuable things to do is to be able to let go of those people with love Like I know it sounds hokey. I know it sounds hokey, but listen to Jesus over here. I know I know right This is this is a there's a book called the tools you ever see the stuts that that oh fuck Jonah Hill had his Therapist he did a documentary about his therapist his therapist When this therapist was nine years old his brother died of cancer his three-year-old brother and his parents were both atheists And his parents had nothing to fall back on so he ended up being his parents Therapists. Oh Jesus and and and by the time he became a therapist. It was a joke for him He was like I've been doing this my whole life and was really interesting about the book and also about the documentary is that then at 30 he gets Parkinson's and it's debilitating and so he has to contend he's now 75 and he has to contend with his mortality and One of the things that he found the most frustrating thing about psychoanalysis Was this idea that I I can tell you we can find out where after talking for a long time where your anxiety comes from Your dad did this your uncle did this whatever it might be you can find the causes Maybe we can we can expose those but now what do we do about it? Just because you know why doesn't mean you know what to do about it So you've got anxiety or you've got this self limiting, you know You've got to self saboteur or whatever it might be or you have this depression. Well, what do you do about that? You know, I can prescribe medication, but sometimes that doesn't work and he created these things called tools You know Which I have to say at 56 read the book and I and I really really found it useful and I found it enjoyable But one of the things he talks about is the idea of and it again It's a Christian notion, but it's also it just makes total sense if you hold on to resentment for people You're turning you back on your future You know, you're you're you're you're fighting with them. You're still fighting with them in one way or another That's a weird thing to hold on to and I think that it's really important of however You can do it to move on from that But if you move on from that like wishing for their destruction and stuff, I don't think that works as well I think better is to kind of just realize hey, whatever you're whatever you're going through. I forgive you I forgive you I forgive whatever it is and I'm gonna move on from there and actually actively do that and you can do that Through meditation, you know, he's got these these things where you do that and there's a meditative way to do it But I think that's pretty powerful. I think it's very helpful because it allows you to move on from the things that are holding you back It's also practical. It's practical. You only have so much energy. Yes, so much time and so much concentration You had to do that. Yeah, you tell me your biggest your biggest accomplishment was peace of mind. I always think yes That's a big thing. You gotta learn how Well, the way I always talk about it is that I think of my mind is bandwidth Like I have a hundred units of bandwidth and anytime I'm spending time on something that's nonsense or not constructive or not beneficial It's stealing from the amount of bandwidth that I would have to writing a new bit or concentrating on something I love to do or being with my family or friends like anytime you've got some Stuff stealing from you. Yeah, you got to figure out a way to push that out Like you don't need it you do not need to be dwelling on some did you read a book about that? Or did you just come here that out you did? Yeah, I figured it out I just I figured out I always figure out like what makes me feel bad Like what is it about like what I've said or what someone said to me or what I've done or what someone's done to me Like what makes me feel bad and then how much of that could have been preventable? How much of that is how much of it can I mitigate how much of it is necessary? And when you think about like disputes with people in particular where some people just hold grudges and disputes forever It's just the heaver you're stealing from yourself. Yes stealing from your time and That's so important though. It's such an important thing to understand. Yeah, the best revenge is to live your life. Well Just accomplish it. Yeah, just live your life well, and then let that poor person who keeps dwelling Let them hold on to that. Yeah, and also nobody gives a fuck about the universe is gonna treat you unfairly Okay, I'm sorry. It's just the way it is. You can dwell on that worry about it. We can get to work Yeah, it's gotta work and you can do amazing things with your life if you can just figure out what to concentrate on The people that fuck their life up they waste so much time concentrating on bullshit And you just don't have time for things that you really love if you do that I know and that's just a cold hard prad mat pragmatic approach to thought management And I had to figure that out on my own. I figured that out, but it's just uniquely me I would think about like Like one of the ones that was like early on that I realized was jealousy That I would have jealousy over if a comic did really well or if their career was doing that was your competitive nature Yes And I realized that I remember that when I was like 21 years old When I was at an open mic night and I was hoping that someone bombed and I remember thinking wow, what a weak thought Yeah, like what are you seeing someone die? But it was like I didn't have a framework in a structure like I did with martial arts so it was like applying like competitive drive to an artistic endeavor where Actually, the people that are really good are supremely beneficial. They're not bad for you. They're really good for you They're inspiring and it's also there's there's there's a camaraderie to it. That's Beautiful and you learn how to do it from both Observing and practicing and then the level that you're around makes you raise your own level up Well, yeah, I notice you I gotta get to work a hundred percent And then I realized so I realized that and I got past that and then but I realized like oh like these are like These kind of weaknesses that are just inherent to human character It's inherent to human desires and ego and your thoughts about yourself and what you deserve versus what you're getting And you know, there's a especially with young people There's this like frantic rush for success and you think that somehow or another if someone else does Well, it takes away from you because you're not winning, you know, they're winning right? You're like god damn it I fucking hate that dude, you know So there's like there's a thing that people can get trapped doing and they can do that with all sorts of aspects of their life It's just a waste of energy What's funny is that you have to keep reminding yourself of that. Oh, you can fall right back into that It's not you don't master anything Like it's like I finally I'm finally here and I have no demons to fight and I have no habits to overcome anymore I have arrived my job. That's a serial killer. Yeah, that's a serial killer. That shit doesn't exist that that that's like You know, what's funny? I've also been thinking about this too is the idea that you better be careful when you do hit the top of the mountain Because that's when the devil comes sorry to get biblical on you again I'm getting fucking biblical, but that's when the devil starts whispering in your ear. What does that? Well, I'll tell you what he says He goes like this. He goes, you know what? You're not just God's favorite You might be God and you know what go ahead and slap Chris Rock I know it's the Oscars, but you can get away with it You know what where I'll sock over your face and say you love Hitler You can do it because you're special and we see it where everybody can fall when you're at the top of that pinnacle You can you can man you can start to say, you know What the laws of the universe don't apply to me and I'm gonna push it and that's when the gods go ha look at this Motherfucker, he thinks he's one of us. He thinks he's one of us. He forgot he's human and and that Apparently, I don't know if this is true, but Denzel Washington Whispered in Will Smith's here. I like Will Smith, you know, but he whispered in Will Smith's here He said the devil comes to us at our highest moment, you know And Mike Tyson said that too you ever see Mike Tyson talking to Francis Ngano Mike Tyson said you're you're special man I'm watching you knock people out. You know what that means? It means you're one of God's favorites and Francis went wow, and he goes here's the bad news You're one of the devil's favorites, too And you gotta leave with the guy you came with cuz he's looking to take you home, too It's like damn like dropping fucking knowledge Right, you know, he's training Francis Ngano for the Tyson Fury fight. That's crazy. Is he? Yeah that old school That's custom auto that old school I mean, I don't know how much he's gonna change his style because they're fighting in October, you know, it's August now Yeah, he's got Mike. I mean Tyson Fury's Got a plethora of knowledge there. He's the best ever. Yes as far as heavy weight You know what hard to imagine other than Mike Tyson in his prime. Mm-hmm Anybody beating that guy? Yeah, Tyson Fury's so good He's so good. He's mad at me. He's mad at me because I said John Jones would fuck him up But in the MMA fight he would that's not being mean. Yeah, but just the way I said it I dragged him into this who's the best man on the planet thing, which I didn't mean to do I love the guy Yeah, but he's just talking a little loose. He's being dramatic. I was with Schultz. I think we probably had a couple of cocktails I was talking a little loose. He got very mad at me. He did Text you or no. No, no, no, no. No, I just talked shit about me made a video. I love the guy I really did nothing that's just the difference look if he learned MMA Look that guy's a warrior if someone taught him when he was young Yeah, how to wrestle and jujitsu and leg kicks He would fuck everybody up as an MMA fighter as well sure because that's who he is Yeah, but but but the reality of wrestling is it's just you know You're not defending against an ankle lock unless you've seen it and drilled it a lot. It's not just that you're not defending against John John a rear naked choke, especially if there's nowhere to go take down your I said trapped in a room Yeah, but that's not that's not insulting. He thought it was a different sport because he's a fucking warrior But it's a different sport that in a guy is a better man than him. That's what it is a challenge I could have said it in a much more diplomatic way. Okay, I should have said you're you mean you were too honest a Little bit a little talking shit. That's what it was. It was talking shit But I do love the guy and I do think that the thing about Francis and Gano and Tyson Fury is I do not imagine a world where Francis and Gano can outbox Tyson Fury I do not think that that will ever take place No Tyson Fury is a master his footwork his jab his understanding of what to do You ever see that fight with Otto Wilder? He's on the ropes. Yes, just bobbing and weaving See what you're doing. He's gonna put Francis and Gano So one of the great things about watching bud Crawford with Errol Spence's Oh my goodness, but Crawford was was able to put his feet in a place where Errol Spence had to keep adjusting That's why it looked As great as Errol Spence looked you'll never see him look as off-balance as he did against a genius like bud Crawford Right, it's more where he's placing his feet those little details those micro adjustments. He's never out of place and his accuracy But again, because hooks in tight like that where he's punching from yes, it's where he's perfect from this Yes, perfect that that can't be that has to be you don't learn that in four months No, no, those are those are details that are that that are if you're tutored Right and you have the kind of brain that someone like Hopkins or bud Crawford has. Yeah That's that's for you. But what I will say though is Francis and Gano hits like a freight train, correct? He hits like a freight train, but Dylan White does too and so does I don't think those guys hit his heart Francis I mean, I don't know but Francis is a natural 265 just to cut down to make 265 He hits so fucking hard. The question is will he be able to connect on the greatest heavyweight ever? Also, also how when is he gonna get tired? It would yeah, will he get tired? Will he be inefficient like with Connor and Floyd Mayweather Floyd Mayweather so efficient and so so smooth and composed? Always relaxed and he can box like that for 30 rounds. They also roll shots, you know, he can just kind of move He's we just leave this with a auto wheel. It's what's this movement? Look, look at he knows what's going on to just keeps his and the length and distance that fucking guy has look at him His job is so good. Everything he does is incredible. Yeah, and you know, there was this Crazy controversy after the Deontay Wilder fight where they were claiming that he didn't have his gloves on correctly and then his knuckles were actually over The padding stop, but that's just because he's so loose when he throws his hands out Sometimes he mixes up between showing you the jab and just popping you and then driving with a power shot He just figures out but he also figures out all your patterns, you know The other thing about being a boxer at someone like in ganos level a rather novice And someone like Tyson Fury Tyson Fury has patterns. He's got he can see what you're gonna do He but France sometimes gonna come to him with a game plan that game plan with all due respect in for someone like Tyson Fury is Rutimentary they're gonna figure out I see what you're doing. Bye. Bye. Bye. It's like what Duran I can't remember the boxer But he came back to his corner and goes he's reading my mind No, Duran just understands those patterns so well that he was beating you to the punch. Right? That's what was happening Right, it's the same idea. Once a fighter does that and Manny Pacquiao did that to the great Miguel Cotto He did it by the third round. He figured him out and you could see What's his name Freddie Roach screaming, you know knock him out and then Freddie at the after that fight said I talked to him Actually, he said he didn't want to knock him out didn't want to hurt him, but he could wow. That's how good so nice Yeah, yeah, right killer. How about that? Manny Pacquiao? Nice didn't want to knock you know that that's true though, man When a fighter figures your game out that quickly, we'll see you later. He downloaded every really He really didn't want to knock him out. That's what Freddie Roach said. Wow, that's crazy Cuz he was like get him out of here and he's like That's crazy you could see it you could see broke his nose and it was just crazy but Manny's talking about fighting again like a real fight well guys like Manny and guys like Nobody talks enough about Bernard Hopkins and how what he was able to do up through 50 50 I was talking to Muzz with all about this like You're talking about a guy in a division where speed and power make a big difference and he was 50 he was still fighting at a level that maybe to other championship. Well crazy Yeah, and that's because of his fight IQ his fight IQ and his discipline I never got out of shape never ate bad never push-ups between. Yeah Yeah, he was incredible. Yeah, and he's just one of the all-timers and just what a guy to emulate you see his style You know like when he beat Tito Trinidad nobody gave him a chance He went over to Puerto Rico and threw the Puerto Rican flag on the ground and see they try to kill him Yeah Oh He hyped that fight up in a big way and he got Tito Trinidad very emotional and then he just boxed his face off You get you he'll get in your kitchen, man He get he'll find you'll find you always have a window open in your house and he'll climb into that fucking window And good luck such a good apparently with Kelly Pavlik he who was a killer he whispered in his ear He said don't let this ruin you Wow. Yeah Wow, yeah, I remember that fight he was in his 40s And Kelly Pavlik was like was a killer killer cuz after he knocked out your main tail, right? Right and Jermaine Taylor's a monster Kelly Pavlik was a killer. Yeah killer, but just ran into a genius He just ran into a genius. That's okay. Yeah genius boxers to me But it's the most exciting thing to watch the so when you watch a guy like Terrence Crawford or the guy who's gonna fight next Boots Ennis, I don't know much about all my god. He's so is he fighting him at 54? I think they're talking about doing a rematch with Earl Spence at 54. Yeah But you know, it's that's a hard sell. Yeah, it is. The only thought would be that Earl Spence Depleted himself so much getting to 154 that he couldn't fight to the best of his abilities But just looks like Terrence Crawford's on another level. He is I mean It's undeniable the boxers do get weakened when they lose a lot of weight. It's undeniable, but he had been world champion at 47 Yeah, I don't think I don't think that was an issue of weakness. I think that was an issue of genius. Yeah You just you just you sometimes you are out about you're beaten by some I think bud Crawford is greatness He's greatness. It's he's not just good. He's greatness and greatness is a different X Factor What did you think of the Lomachenko Devin Haney fight? I didn't see enough of it. I saw highlights And I heard that Lomachenko Got the best of them, but I don't know I don't it looked to me like you won Yeah, I I've watched it twice now. It's like I could kind of see a world where it's close Yeah, it's close and the unfortunate aspect the fact that a lot of people don't agree with the decision is that it It kind of tarnishes an amazing fight Because the fight was amazing both Devin Haney his performance and Lomachenko's performance It was an incredible fight between two guys in their fucking prime. It was such a good is Lomo in his prime though Still is man the way he fought against Devin Haney. He looked fucking crazy, right? I think he's 36 now You know how many fights he's had those guys who come up through that Russian system. I think like Triple G had 350 fights. I think as amateur or something crazy like are you out of your fucking mind saying? Yeah, I mean saying Lomachenko's got a wild story too because his dad made him stop boxing for two years to learn Russian Ukrainian dance I know that's so weird. Yeah, and Ukrainian dance was like the foundation for his footwork. Isn't he you six coaches? Well, yes. Now that's a guy if you watch that Anthony Joshua fight I'm six insane. He's just a I mean, that's so beautiful to watch I know setting traps and like I Watched some guy break down the stuff that I didn't say that I didn't know is that just somebody who doesn't understand How about this sheer volume of strikes that he throws as a heavy rod? Incredible because he's a natural cruiser way to it's not like he's a big man. No, he's like 220. I think so weird Yeah, he's not a big heavyweight at all But you got to realize also that Mike Tyson in his prime was also about 220. Yeah, that's correct. That's correct He's big enough to hurt you. Ooh sick was so slick I know Anthony Joshua is such a fucking big man So you're talking about a super athlete and he almost took Anthony Joshua out in the first fight. Yep Especially like towards the end of the fight like he was battering Joshua. Just just everything's a plan though. He's doing Yeah, he's so slick man rolls with stuff And he wears you out and then he sorts of hair style and a mustache. Oh, he's such a unique character He is he's very very eccentric Was didn't he wasn't he a two-time Olympian? I believe so. Yeah, I think he won right look that up Jamie I think he was a It's great phenomenal boxer though and interesting, right? It's always interesting. I was really interested in seeing him in Tyson Fury I was too. That's an amazing. I don't know why I I wonder if his camp just doesn't want that I wonder if his camp is like whose camp Tyson Fury's campus like who knows I think they want the most money possible in the Francis and Gano fight they're doing in I think they're doing the UAE. I Think they're doing it. I don't know whether maybe they do it in Dubai. He won a gold medal there Yeah, I thought it was twice, but I think it's our Outporting Arthur bitter be of and bitter be of is the only fighter right now. That's a champion that has a 100% knockout rate. He's undefeated I think he's 19 and 0 with 19 knockouts He is a fucking monster and that was the guy that they were trying to set Canelo up with Because when Canelo fought be of all one of the other names that was on the table was big big. Oh, he's a destroyer I'm just gonna find you befall. I don't fight or be a no. I've never seen this guy bitter be of is one of the most Impressive guys in box is that right? Yeah, what would see fight it? He's a light heavyweight. He's light heavyweight champion He's the guy who knocked out Joe Smith jr. The guy who knocked out Bernard Hopkins. Oh boy That's how that's a lot to deal with for go to a better be of highlights go to his highlights a bigger man than can He's a fucking monster big for canada. He's not just big He's a fucking destroyer and he's not like an elusive guy like an oosik He's just a champion just a fucking warrior to just comes at you with insane technique blood and guts Just smashing people but but can all knockouts dude can I want there's Joe Smith jr. No, I don't believe so Okay, I don't believe he wants any of this. I think he wants another befall fight But this is the most terrifying matchup in my heavyweight He's a fucking animal dude, and he looks like an animal with that fucking beard He's he's there look there's a reason there are away classes watch some of these chaos man He's this fucking guy is terrifying and a 100% knockout ratio Everybody he fights and every fight is the same way seek and destroy come straight at you hands up high and break you down Yeah, and he hits like a fucking Mack truck Thanks, I mean he's a fucking tank, dude And he puts together these beautiful combination look how tight that left hook was Everything's tight. It's these beautiful combinations, but it just constant pressure Yeah, no, thanks I go guy breaks people down Just a beast and this was the Anthony yard fights like 12-ounce gloves and yards a monster Oh, dude, he's fucking people up to him. He's so interesting to watch too because it's just how long can the person? Outlast this this attack. Oh Christ. I Mean how long can the person handle this? I don't think that's the art I think somebody just gives in Oh covered is he hit him the body and came right to the yeah That wasn't Anthony art But this is I mean there's there's a whole series of his fights like this and they're all the same way He just puts it on guys until they break. Yeah. No. Thanks. He's incredible Who's who would be a competitive fight of all befall and him would be The ball looked like a bigger canal or like very similar style to me Like really really similar like to canelo well thought I was like that's just a bigger canal big and long Oh, yeah, a real light heavyweight Perfect ever of being 154. No, he's a real 175 pound guy I mean like props to canelo for wanting to challenge himself like that. It's kind of wild He's kind of wild that he goes up and knocks out Kovalev that that's mean Huge huge And when you go by me Kovalev was like later in his career then but if you go back and watch his fight He's first fight my god with Andre Ward and all the other guys that he knocked down Mykova when he was the crusher is a beast Andre where's another guy who could just download what you were doing did it with Kovalev twice? Mm-hmm, and by the way fought most of his career with one arm. What do you mean? They're fucked up shoulder most of his career. Yeah, he had an operation before the second Kovalev fight Hey beat all those guys all the this the the turn the middleweight tournament that he went through the Karl froch all those guys He beat all those guys with one shoulder, you know, it came out of that camp, you know boxed in in Oakland with with In Andre Ward's camp for a long time was the Diaz brothers really? Oh, that's right. They did a lost barn with them Yeah, what do you think about that Jake Paul thing? Well, that's why I was bringing it up We're gonna have that too. So we're gonna do fight companion. Well, the UFC we're gonna pause that when it starts I'm gonna be on stage. Yeah, you're not gonna be there for that I know but when are you gonna start it cuz I'll be whenever the fight start what time the fight shows? 8 p.m. Cap cities everybody. Oh, they started eight the main card starts today. You're gonna miss everything. I am right Yeah, we'll have dinner beforehand. Okay. Well there. Yeah So it'll just be Space isn't real Whether or not I should listen I do conspiracy social club with Sam Tripoli He we have sometimes he gets you though. That's amazing best What's amazing is when things you don't believe are true turn out I know cuz that's the thing like hanging out with Sam Tripoli enough you will eventually Realize that there are conspiracies and there's a lot more of them than anybody wants to admit to yep Sam Sam is is a lot of times I find myself texting him going Sam you are right. Damn it. Isn't that crazy? I know isn't it crazy? I know He he he is we had a whole we have these not it's like WWE and that show we just you know Well, he goes so deep into those goddamn things He knows so many of them and he's just bringing them up and you're like what but then we get into like nuclear bombs Aren't real and yeah, how is that one catching? What how is that? How is it does does anybody see that one? They dropped in the ocean where you literally see the fucking this Several mile high plume of water that come though I mean look probably wasn't several The people that are saying there are no nuclear with all due respect are saying there are no nuclear weapons They usually don't have an advanced degree in nuclear physics physics I know they've studied some nuclear physics, but they don't have an advanced to it's all I'm trying to say, you know It's it's like Jeff Dye had it has a great joke. He's like, why does everybody talk about cryptocurrency? Or why is everybody tries to sell me on cryptocurrency have three roommates in their 30s fucking great joke. It's like a man So, you know some of this stuff is The I always there's that great quote. He knows enough This applies to me applies to all of us. We have to be careful, you know enough to think you're right Not enough to know you're wrong. That's an important thing Especially as you're inundated with all this information all the time find that nuclear bomb detonated in the ocean around the Battleships because I remember did they did this they had an idea of how big the explosion was gonna be So they they positioned these ships so like how far can a ship be to where the bomb goes off? Wow, they were way off really Jesus. Yeah, wait till you see what this looks like. Did you see that that you've never seen this? No, did you see in Lebanon? Remember that explosion? Yes. Okay. Yeah that I think it was the It was a jet ski and he had he was video watch this. Oh my god Holy Shit the way to the pants out and you see how high it goes. Are you did they they detonated underwater? Yeah, well, how many fish that killed everyone all the fish? Are you kidding that they probably killed fish for a mile around 100% that's not the best view of it There's a view of it from the shore. There's another one. That's all water. What is that? That's crazy water Yeah, the the nuclear bomb shot the water like I'm I don't know how high yeah There's another one that yeah, that's that this is this one's wild. I love this one. Watch this one because they detonate So they detonate this one Look at this. Oh my god. Watch how it goes. It just keeps going. Oh My god. Oh, yeah, look at this Look at this, dude How insane is that? Imagine seeing that Look how high that fucking cloud is And there's there's different angles of it where it's like a zoomed back angle where you can see the whole thing Fucking incredible now, that's an atomic bomb not a thermonuclear bomb exactly. So there's a difference. Yeah, they're more powerful Yes, that is correct So like the bombs that they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki the ones that they have now are so many times more powerful Yeah, I have dinner Eric Weinstein and he comes in and he's all down I'm like, what's that? He goes. Oh, I think we have 30 years left. I'm like here we go. He's very dramatic And he's like we're gonna miniaturize thermonuclear weapons and with CRISPR Cas9 We're gonna be able to take viruses and manipulate them and I was like you have a point there You have a point get to work. Hey you get a lab and get to work That lab they found the Chinese operated lab that was in Los Angeles or in the LA area Yeah, they found some lab with mice that were in horrible conditions that there was something about them being infected with COVID-19 or they had See what see what the article is, but it was like like a bio research lab that was in some abandoned warehouse somewhere So California officials closed down bootleg Chinese lab bringing brimming with infectious agents such as COVID and HIV in addition to pathogens investigators found hundreds of chemicals a thousand mice many of them dead and Bootleg COVID and pregnancy tests apparently developed on site. That's not good, man So they were experimenting with rats and mice to develop COVID tests Somewhere with HIV so they were trying to come up with tests who knows what they were doing who fucking knows But did the rats or the mice rather most of them were dead already? Did you see where they they put in the chat GBT? Come up with chemical weapons and it came out with 40,000 different variants of a chemical weapon. You see this? Yeah No, there's a lot to worry about. Yeah, Eric Weinstein scares the shit out of me with all that We have 30 years left talk. What do you think of this UFO shit? I don't think any of it's true I feel like I'm being lied to me too. And here's the thing. I wonder if that's because disclosure I Imagine in my head that it would be this grand moment and the the clouds would part and we would figure out that we're not alone in the universe and maybe this this this reality of what they're disclosing that they have recovered alien spacecrafts that they have Biological creatures from another planet that they have frozen or from another dimension. They are in possession of both craft and biologics They know that aliens are real Maybe it's just that is so strange and so alien that my mind is not registering it as a possibility Even though it can be a possibility if you just just look at the stars in the sky and look at you know What we know about biology on earth It's totally possible that this in this infinite universe has occurred other places and gotten to a much more advanced stage I love that they were able to cross galaxies and then they couldn't land. No, that's not the thing. It's like the thing is You're if you even if you have like the most advanced Spaceships like think about cars there was so much more advanced than they've ever been before thousands people still die every year Right car accidents. If you have electrical storms and the very famous case in Virginia Brazil, which James Fox did this documentary called the moment of contact. It's amazing. It's about this town in 1996 in Brazil that experienced just universal sightings the everyone in the town saw these flying saucers and saw that there was this giant lightning storm and Something appeared to have crashed and these people went to the side of this crash site and they said that there was biological Entities one of them was badly injured this guy carried it this police officer carried it He put it in the back of a car. They took it to a hospital They kicked them out took it to another hospital the guy who carried it developed a horrible bacterial Infection that they could not cure and he was dead within two weeks. They didn't know what it was There's documentation of them bringing this thing to these different hospitals. There's documentation of this guy dying of this horrible bacterial infection There's all these eyewitnesses the town when you enter into the town has an actual statue of this fucking UFO That like is in the center like as you're entering into the town like they're famous for this incident They said the US Air Force sent a plane down there to recover the wreckage and return it back to America this guy David Grush was the whistleblower has exposed that they supposedly have a Retrieval program for crashed UFOs and that it's happened multiple times over the course of human history This was where Bob Lazar was talking about in Secret like I don't understand. Well, I think they're not they don't want to anymore and I think there's part of it that it's like it's not beneficial to keep it a secret and that too many people who feel like this is an important thing that the world should be aware of and that maybe this could actually Be a uniting moment for us if we realize that space daddy is really like watching Everything we do and like there are something that's here whether it's interdimensional whether it's from another planet That would be that would be very unifying very unifying, you know But I don't believe it but I appreciate it think what do you think is going on then? Why do you think they're having these I think it's impossible to keep a secret, especially a secret of that magnitude There's no way they're not keeping it. That's one of the things but they have since the 30s according to these whistleblowers But have they because look Bob Lazar talked about this very program Exactly. I know 1989. Exactly. Was he was he talking about a drone program? And do we have technologies that we are not aware of that can do things that are make no sense You know how it's kind of like the Manhattan Project, right? We might have we might have some technological breakthroughs that we are not sharing with other countries and that may be the case So the US military may have Game changing technologies. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's certainly possible A lot of people think that's what was able to me a lot of people think that's what that tic-tac incident is off the coast of San Diego in 2004. It's a famous one where commander David Fraver they they have multiple instrumentation The documentation of like how where this thing was and it was at 50,000 plus feet above sea level and it went down to 50 In less than a second that it took off that insane. It's crazy. They have multiple pilots 2004 Yes, multiple multiple jets that more than one jet that had visual contact with this thing They have video of this thing taking off that they estimated that at the speed that it took off There was some sort of like analysis of what it would do to a biological entity And like it would turn you into jelly it would just that the amount of force required to go that fast that quick It was something like I forget what the g-force was but it was something insane Some some insane number of g-force that it was taken off that fast Like there's no way a biological entity would survive But the question is like why would we assume that it's a biological entity? It's it doesn't have any windows is this round thing that looks like a tic-tac if there is some sort of advanced propulsion system some some Revolutionary way of moving through space and time that the US government has developed, you know in some black ops program That seems very likely impossible that seems more likely than aliens visiting us But there's more than one incident and there's a lot of these things and the possibility of alien life in the universe Although we've never experienced it seems rational. It seems very rational And if you were gonna study an emerging civilization that is both primitive and war like and yet insanely Technologically advanced to the point where they have nuclear weapons. They could transmit video through the sky. They have propaganda they have tracking of their citizens like that's us that's us right now and While we are these territorial Primal beings with fucking nuclear weapons. This would be a good time. Yeah to start exposing yourself Yes, and to stop this nonsense and say yeah, and look The reason why we named the rooms of our club fat man and little boy is because in UFO lore That's when they started showing up after the detonation the atomic bombs in Japan That's when the UFO sightings ramped up and they ran mostly in the US, right? Yes So that's interesting because the US was the one with the nuclear power So and we were the one who was doing a lot of fucking testing Yeah, you know and also we have all these military bases who the fuck has more military bases than us No one who has more nuclear weapons pointed at other people than us where we have them all over the place and there's all these Multiple sightings and eyewitness accounts of like very credible people who say these things have hovered over military bases It'd be pretty cool if these aliens were benevolent Overlords and they were like hey my children. Yeah, or maybe even so advanced Intellectually that the concept of an overlord is preposterous and they're just biological management They're just there's just the gardeners Tending to make sure the weeds don't get out of hand and just like let this process continue to play itself out because this process of technological innovation is It's the everything that humans do. Yeah, it's what we do at the pinnacle of our creation as we make better technology Well, I always wonder about fractals and whether or not like this idea of this being a simulation this being you know Like we are we are kind of replicating We are creating machines and doing our best to create them in our own image, right? Yes, and that's interesting You know That's because our the the mythologies that we subscribe to are the idea that this God that we pray to Made us in his image and we're doing the same thing now with robots and computers and that's an interesting thing that we see that seem to have this sort of paradigm this this this idea that that That's the scaffolding for the way we think right and to what end and and why are we doing that? Maybe it's already happened, but has it already happened? Are we are we the result of that that? Impulse that happened way longer a long time ago I think we are the shit throwing chimps that are going to become the nuclear physicist That's what I are the shit throwing chimps from 2001 to become Oppenheimer. Yeah Yeah, and then I think this thing that we become is integrated with technology. It's probably some sort of a hybrid It's some sort of a cyborg because I think we're already like on the verge of merging, you know all this talk of like Neuralink and all these various thing we watched this video the other day of this guy who is Googling questions and getting answers in his head with his headpiece. Yeah. Yeah, that's so crazy Incredible, right? So how long before that is like that's pong No, but that's and then you have the unreal 4 engine in 2023 that looks like a movie no, no how long before that technology gets to the point where it's just Supremely advanced and we we literally are like God, but my question really is also the idea that that's engineering right? That's a tool. It's innovation. It but but but there's there's engineering. So there are two aspects to it one is Getting information faster and stuff which doesn't get you closer to truth, but it gets you information faster There are endless facts, but more importantly I always wonder Like why we are given this I really believe that human potential is pretty much infinite Whatever you can imagine and beyond we can do and we are doing we seem to be doing this like think about crazy That is I can wear a headset and I can do things with my mind and look up the answer. Yeah, that's insane. That's Magic, it's crazier than magic, but there's a way to measure that and quantify that and replicate that so it's not magic I can do it and I can tell you exactly how I get there, which is even crazier. So What is that what is that leading us to it is nudging us closer It's it's like the I think it's very significant that we're getting a better understanding of what it's like to be someone else we are it's really hard to say that and a yanomamo Indian or whoever it might be is thinks about things differently than I do when I know so much about how all these human beings Like someone in Iran someone in Jordan Laughs and cries and bleeds at the same thing I do You know we it's Being prejudiced based on what that person looks like over there is becoming harder and harder to justify Where it was before we knew about that we were like well those people over there quote-unquote savages or they're the setting other thing And I do think that we are getting a better understanding of what it's like to be each other and not being nudged in the same Direction I'm not saying we don't yeah, I think that's true, too But why and and it's interesting to think about where that's where that's leading us What to what to what understanding to what understanding and then when we have that understanding? What are we gonna do about that right and are we gonna pull it together? And are the aliens here to make sure that we don't fuck it up. Yeah Yeah, that's the the beautiful idea the terrible ideas that it's all us And then it's all the big ruse, and it's all just drones that we're doing because we don't want China and Russia know about it We have insane Propulsion systems that operate on gravity and yeah, I think it is us, but I see it seems like both It seems like us and it also seems like there's some shit that we we just don't understand And I don't know if those people are telling the truth Because of the people that are telling the truth that there's biological entities And this is what Jackie Gleason said that Nixon told him and Nixon took him on it They were drinking you know that famous story now who knows if it's true It's it's a legend but the legend is that Jackie Gleason and Nixon were drinking and that Nixon said you want to see some fucking aliens and they get on Air Force One and they fly to some Air Force Base and they go to a place where they have a crashed UFO and they have biological beings that are in freezers and Jackie Gleason sees this and Jackie Gleason after that has a house built in upstate New York that looks like a UFO He became obsessed with UFOs after it there was a house. It was actually for sale at one point. Yeah So he has this house that he had shaped like a UFO And this is like who knows if this is a true story Yeah, right because it's like it was kind of sort of disputed his ex-wife told the story or something like that I think that kind of thing is actually impossible to keep secret. No, I don't think so really no I don't think generational like generations of government bureaucrats can keep something a secret sure They tell the the people the very highest level know about it. It's very few people. It's all very compartmentalized They're always monitor everyone's phone calls everyone's emails everything everyone does boss at a top-secret clearance level No way, I don't think you're right totally impossible I think it's impossible. Listen, man. They can keep secrets when people at high levels of military can keep see if the girl is rotating out They're retiring. They're dying. Yeah, they probably want to fucking Hillary Clinton and a lot of those dudes I'm not willing to Relinquish the idea that they could keep that secret. Well, that's because I think it's a leave Yeah, but it's not just a fun to believe in it is possible. It's a physically possible thing to do Especially if you have the right people and they're indoctrinated in the right way with top-secret clearance and by the way It's not like these people don't tell their friends and it's not like there's a bunch of stories floating around because there are there's a shitload Of stories. I'm saying but why why would you like I would never keep that a secret. I'd be like, hey Here's the thing when you have Senators and congressmen who find out about this and they find out that military contractors are the ones who have access to this stuff Because the back engineering program has to involve someone has the capability of recreating this So who would that be? That would be the people to make chats if you got someone who's making you a fucking Stealth bomber and you have a crashed UFO. Those are the people that you want Discussing like what kind of things you've recovered from a fucking alien crash and can this be replicated? No, here's a problem with your don't you know me motherfucker cuz you don't know you might be wrong. You're wrong No, no, no, don't say you're wrong because you don't know that I'm wrong with your theory Okay, I'm sorry and I love that you want to believe in this and so I but here's the problem. Okay, there's no law There's no written law that says I'm not allowed to talk about aliens And I mean at the level the top levels of clearance like the most secret level There is no world where if I'm a government official and I take a bunch of pictures and I come before Congress and I go Here's my evidence. I'm blowing the whistle. There are real alien You don't think they go after you fruit? I'd never go to jail violating your top secret clear No, because it's not violating my top secret clearance, but it was be nope Never go to jail for that because they I'd be like you're gonna put me in jail for exposing what everybody wants to know The whole world would be like holy shit. You guys kept this assuming that you have access to that material to extract Our enough people who were ever the put maybe maybe not Maybe those are the kind of people that wouldn't do that Brian. Listen, you fucking communist. I Don't like the way you think I I'm blowing I'm I'm shredding your UFO No, you're not there. You think you are just using these establishments You're allowed to talk about UFOs and you never get trouble. You sound like your dad. Come on, man Your CIA right now and you're in here spreading propaganda to the faithful listeners Listen, this listen me there are no aliens and if there are We'd know about it because if there is you're gonna come back on dress like a clown agreed agreed That's my bets. I'm making with everybody now. I'll dress like a clown. I'll do it. Okay, I'll be ready You're gonna come open for me at cap cities tonight. I can't I have two shows of my own you do But I'm excited to see your shows. Um You're there this weekend. I'm a Tonight tonight Friday and then I'm in I'm in lol comedy club in San Antonio August 24 25 26th and Salt Lake City September 1 and 2 you guys guys The best there it is Lol comedy club wise guys and King Center Saturday September 23 Melbourne Australia. My man's going over the big pond. Oh Not the same as on Melbourne King Center. I was like, that's a quick trip. How are you doing that? Dot-com for my ticket. All right. I love you brother. I love you too.