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Jimmy Corsetti is the independent researcher behind "Bright Insight": a YouTube channel exploring ancient mysteries and lost civilizations. www.rumble.com/c/BrightInsight
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Can you ad the YT-video to this episode? They are looking at some interesting pictures.
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I liked the episode, and it was truly ad free... thank you spotify for giving us what we paid for in the first place I guess
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the spotify widget is pretty hard to predict and im not sure how they decide things. you might get 30 second previews depending on where you live (in the US vs. outside the US), and they occasionally make it so that you can't get full episodes on your phone (but you can on a desktop). right now, i'm getting full episodes though on my phone and computer
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These episodes only play 30 second snippets, am I using the player wrong or is this just a preview club to send you to Spotify?
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I hope that makes up for not having Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock on the podcast for such a long time ;)
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Hello, Joe Rogan.
Hello, Joe Rogan.
Nice to meet you in person.
I've watched many, many of your videos on YouTube, and I really, really enjoy
them.
That's quite flattering.
Well, we share a common interest, this fascination with ancient civilizations
and the mysteries.
The first video I think I saw of you was this video of these concentric circles
in Africa
that are remarkably similar to the descriptions of Atlantis.
The Rishat structure.
Yeah, and then I started reading up on it, and I'm like, this is pretty wild.
And then I got into your whole YouTube page, which is called Bright Insight,
and it's really excellent.
So first, before we even get started, how did you get interested in this
subject?
Well, going back to the sixth grade, that was when I fell in love with the
Egyptians.
Oh, yeah.
Bring that sucker up to you?
Yeah, there you go.
How does that sound?
Perfect.
I've always had a fascination for the ancients.
Growing up in school, most topics bored the hell out of me.
In math, I'd be like counting the ceiling tiles more than I'd be counting
numbers.
But something like that, the ancients, science, history, I always thought was
fun.
But I never would have thought that I would grow up to make a career out of it.
My story is pretty unique in that I made a lot of life changes about five years
ago.
I was heading down a path.
I was really unhappy.
I was doing a corporate life, and I was more depressed than I had ever been,
and yet I had everything in my life.
I had a good paycheck, beautiful wife, house, everything, except for a soul-sucking
path of a career that was going to bring me nothing but misery.
What were you doing?
Well, I was a fraud investigator for a large retailer, one of the largest.
I'll say it's not Walmart.
Actually, I'll say it's Target.
Who cares?
Oh, Jesus, you're crazy.
I can't believe you're saying it.
It was a sweet gig for a while.
I was doing a couple of responsibilities, internal theft and fraud.
So I was investigating employees that steal from the company, and I also
managed the team that would bust the shoplifters, external theft and fraud.
And that gig was awesome for a few years until – and I'm not talking crap
about Target because it's a corporate thing.
They're all doing the do-more-with-less philosophy through attrition.
They get rid of other positions, and then they pass on those responsibilities
to you, and then you end up doing less of what you really want to do.
For example, what I was good at was busting people that were stealing from the
company, salaried managers.
How would they steal?
Like what's the most clever way?
Well, so it could be something as simple as stealing cash, but that's like the
easiest thing to catch, so that's more rare.
Some people steal merchandise, so you've got to think about it.
Like if you were to take – because we were joking about DVDs earlier.
No one's doing them anymore.
But when I was last year in 2014, DVD box sets for like television series,
those things would go $50, $60.
But if you steal a whole box of them and you sell them on the black market,
there's no overhead.
And other things that people do is mark things down.
Like you'll have a TV or patio furniture or something, whatever.
Think about it.
And you just mark that stuff down.
And yeah.
But it could be something simple as stuff.
It could be people that are just trying to – I don't know.
I mean, you think about it like it's – actually, let me put it like this.
And this is for the external – this is the shoplifters.
You want to guess what the number one most stolen thing out of Target is out of
anything else?
Gum?
Mm-mm.
No?
I'll give you a hint.
I would think it's something you could slip into your pocket.
I'll give you a hint.
Oh, yes.
It's women and something that's just dropped in their purse.
It's nail polish.
Nail polish?
More than anything.
Really?
Yeah.
So they just walk by and they just go, I can get away with this.
Yeah, just grab it.
And you catch them on cameras?
Is that how you bust them?
Yeah.
And so that's the thing a lot of people don't realize.
I tell anyone, like, don't steal from Target, man.
Like, you will send your picture to all the other stores and they will memorize
your face.
How about just don't steal?
Yeah, don't steal.
Do the right thing.
Don't be a fucking piece of shit.
Yeah.
It's like some people think, well, it's a big company and it's harmless.
But I'm like, no, like payroll matters and everything comes down to these
fractions of percentages.
And this can hurt employees from having hours.
Well, it's just gross.
Yeah.
So you did that and then you didn't like it.
So how did you get into this YouTube world of these awesome videos?
All right.
So I was at Target.
I was unhappy.
I tried to find another gig.
Nothing was panning out.
So I'm like, all right, I'm going to go back to school and get an MBA, Master's
of Business Administration.
Even though I wasn't a fan of school, I'm like, this will get me that six-figure
corporate gig.
I'm going to be manager.
And I was sick and tired of all this bureaucratic red tape shit of knowing that
there's something a company could do better and has to go through so many
people.
And no one listens.
I'm like, Christ.
So I'm like, well, let me become the decision maker.
Let me go get a high-power job and that will satisfy me.
But midway through the program, I got real depressed.
I was married and I was like – once I graduated, I was doing some soul
searching.
We moved to Boise, Idaho for a change and nothing was panning out for finding a
job.
And so I was, like I said, depressed.
I was like, fuck this.
I'm just going to go become a school teacher.
I'll bite the bullet.
I don't care about the money anymore.
I just want to be happy.
And I always thought being a teacher would be fun.
But truth be told, I'm like, I'm not doing that for $35,000 a year.
Like, that's – you're poor.
Teachers, school teachers are practically at the poverty level.
Right.
But anyway, so I was like, I'll do that.
And then they're like, well, you got to go back to school and get some certs.
It's going to be like another year and a half.
I'm like, I'm not going back to school.
I just got a master's.
And so I was like, well, I had heard people were on YouTube and making money.
And I'm like, I could teach anything on there.
And so I started shotgunning it.
I started making videos on all kinds of different topics, all kinds of crazy
stuff.
Joe, if you saw my earliest stuff – I mean, I've deleted more than half my
videos.
I was talking all kinds of woo-woo.
Well, you had to learn, right?
You had to learn how to do it right.
Yeah.
But YouTube is – YouTube has a lot of dumb shit on it, like, undeniably.
But you can learn a lot of things on YouTube.
There's a lot of, like, legitimately fascinating information on YouTube and
legitimately informative
videos.
Yeah.
So that comes to you.
So you start making these videos on ancient civilizations.
Those were the ones that got the most views.
And it all made sense because it was the most fun topic to make videos on.
So you were the most enthusiastic about it.
Yeah.
And it ended up making sense.
It worked out that way.
Because even just doing the research wasn't hard.
Because if I'm reading something I'm not interested in, like, my brain just
goes –
Of course.
Me too.
Same thing.
But I'm very, very interested in ancient civilizations, which is why I got into
your
videos.
That's very flattering, Joe.
And I guess I just want to say – it's interesting because, you know, before
we hadn't chatted,
I was like, which videos had he seen and what stuck out?
I've seen quite a few of them.
I've seen most of your videos on construction methods of Egypt, of the pyramids,
and some
of the videos on all the other structures that are there.
You've got to stop messing with that.
It's going to fuck with your head.
Is it?
You're going to keep going up and down and up and down.
Well, I know.
I've been constantly turning it down.
You're fidgeting.
Just relax.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I'm not used to hearing myself like this, so.
Right.
Yeah.
You get used to it.
But it's the best way because it stops us from talking over each other.
Right on.
Like, people normally, in normal conversation, they talk over each other all
the time.
But when you hear both voices at the same time in your ear, you realize how
annoying
that sounds to people listening.
I got you.
Like, if you do a podcast with four people, and I've done a bunch of them with
four people,
it's a fucking nightmare.
If you don't have headphones on, it's a disaster.
It's a disaster to listen to.
Yeah.
I heard your one two weeks ago on Tim Pool with everyone else, Alex Jones and
everyone.
It was disastrous.
It was only eight of you.
It was a disaster.
So, what was your first, like, one that you realized, like, actually caught on?
Like, what was the first subject?
It was on Nikola Tesla.
Oh.
And I was talking about his thoughts on intuition and where his inventions came
from and how he
would just sit around thinking up all of his inventions.
It wasn't through tinkering around.
He was convinced that there was ideas coming to him from the universe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was convinced that he was some sort of, like, a radio.
Yep.
For signals.
Yep.
Which I think a lot of people who are very creative, they think that way.
A lot of singers will tell you that their songs come from, just like, they come
from the air.
You know, some of the best jokes that I've ever written just seem like they've
come out of
nowhere, which is really confusing because it's like, you know, that's what the
concept
of the muse is, right?
The concept of the muse is you sit, like, have you ever read Steven Pressfield?
Yes.
Is that what the-
The War of Art?
Yes.
Yeah.
I thought it was The Resistance, actually.
Am I thinking of something else?
Yeah.
No.
Steven Pressfield.
Same guy.
Okay.
The Resistance is the thing that he talks about that everybody struggles
against.
This is, like, the procrastination and that The Muse, he treats it as if it's
a real thing and that you just need to sit down and then be a professional and,
like,
give yourself this amount of time.
Like, this is when I show up every day and then The Muse will meet me there.
But if you don't treat it like you're a professional, you don't respect The
Muse,
it won't show up.
Right.
And his idea is that this is, like, a real thing that's giving you this data,
which is very similar to the way Tesla thought about things.
Do you believe that?
I don't know.
But you said-
But if you treat it that way, it's real.
It's like the same feeling I have about God.
Like, if you live life like there's a God, if you live life like there's real
morals and
ethics to the universe, I feel like you can get a better result.
And it's not like that you should only be ethical and kind because you feel
like there's, like,
a big guy in the sky watching you.
But if you do uphold the principles, like, the primary principles of
Christianity, right?
Do unto others as you would have to them to you, you know, treat everyone as if
they are
your brother or your sister and, you know, love and kindness and that, you know,
all these
different, very easy to understand principles of, like, love and happiness and
camaraderie.
If you just follow those, they're really beneficial.
They really work.
Now, does that mean that a guy came back from the dead and walked on water?
And that seems a little fishy.
But if you just follow those principles as if there really is a God, I believe
that it's
a great framework for life.
And then I think that you could live a better, more fulfilled life if you live
like that.
I totally agree.
And, you know, it makes you wonder, Joe, like, do you ever wonder, like, what
is all this
about?
Life, the universe, like, where did this all come from?
Yeah.
And the very fact that we're sitting here talking about it.
So I was thinking not long ago, that's like, okay, let's say Big Bang, like the
creation.
And I can wrap my head around an expansion of energy.
What I can't wrap my head around is how there was ever nothing and then
something.
And then so essentially, if the Big Bang happened, as they say, that's
essentially an explosion.
So, like, aren't explosions essentially, that's death.
But yet here we are, we're made out of stardust, right?
Like, that's science.
They said we are made of stardust.
And yet here we are discussing meaning.
So I look at, like, love, humor, desire or the pleasure of arts, of all things,
you know,
whether it includes comedy or the way we feel when we see nature or a painting
or anything
else.
And yet I think that the meaning is the evidence of the divine.
And I wouldn't say it as, like, you're talking about, like, God, it's like
someone in the
clouds or whatever, like, you know, going to judge us or something like that.
But doesn't that mean that we're the universe experiencing ourselves or itself
in some way?
That the fact that we're...
That's how many people describe it that way.
Yeah.
That we're the universe experiencing ourselves.
If you wanted to be really pragmatic, you would say that all of these things,
whether
it's love or creativity or the desire for success and to have your work
appreciated, what all
those things really do is they encourage camaraderie, which encourages
cooperation, which gets more
work done.
Creativity encourages innovation, which creates better and newer things.
Right.
And the desire to be appreciated for one's work makes one work extra hard to
achieve these
goals.
But ultimately, what are all these goals?
Like, what's the end result?
The end result is better things.
Constant innovation.
Better thing.
I mean, I've talked about this many times before because I'm obsessed with it.
But for the people that have heard this, please forgive me.
I am obsessed with the concept that human beings are essentially like a caterpillar
that's creating
a cocoon and that out of this, this technological butterfly will emerge.
And we don't even realize why we're doing it.
The caterpillar is not consciously aware, hey, it's time to make the cocoon.
The human being stuck in traffic, working a nine to five, working for Apple
every day is
not really thinking, hey, I am a part of this thing that will one day give
birth to artificial
intelligence and to sentient beings that are made out of carbon and silicon and,
you know,
they're created in the laboratory rather than in a womb.
But I think that's what we're doing.
Yeah.
And so it gets me back when we're talking about like where these ideas come
from and the idea
of a muse because like Joe, the because you said you've got these ideas for
jokes that
have panned out quite well, right?
And it's like, so I look at my videos and sometimes I'm really struggling with
a title
and a thumbnail, which is, I would say, the most important thing because you've
got
to get people to click, right?
Right.
And then after that, you need good content or they'll just click off and they'll
never
come back.
But it's interesting.
It's that sometimes it's when I put the intention out into the universe, I'll
give myself this
feeling of self-belief that I am getting just the right title and just the
right thumbnail
to get me views.
Because that was my original goal was like, I'm like, all right, I'm going to
go down this
YouTube path that I might as well do it.
I'm going to go big.
I want one million subscribers and I want to get videos to get millions of
views and I want
to teach something to somebody in the process and have fun doing it and
encourage other people
to look into things.
And the thing is, is that sometimes with some of these ideas, I'm like from one
second to
the next, all of a sudden the idea comes and it worked out quite well in so
many times over
and over again.
But you're focusing.
I mean, you think about what you're doing.
You're sitting down there and you're thinking about it and you're focusing.
And you're using your creativity and your concentration.
It doesn't necessarily have to be mystical.
Well, true, except for that sometimes I'll be tossing in over these ideas for
weeks of
focusing on it.
And sometimes that's what delays me so long because if I have a good content, I'm
like,
I need to know how to share this.
But if you can't market, especially with YouTube and how big it is now, and if
you've got to
show somebody why they should click on your video and just focusing on it
enough isn't
necessarily what's brought me my ideas.
I've struggled tremendously by focusing too hard.
And then all of a sudden when I maybe let go a little bit, I'll get this flash.
I'm like, ah, that's how it should look.
Because especially when these topics I'm talking about, like let's say Atlantis,
which we're
going to have to talk about that.
How do you make a video when there's like 10,000 other Atlantis videos out
there?
What's going to make someone want to click on this one more than the others?
So it's got to be a title.
It's maybe perhaps a little provocative or have certain keywords for the
algorithm.
And I've learned like with thumbnails, you got to, because if people are
literally-
So you think about this shit a lot?
Yeah.
About how to get people to watch a lot.
How long have you been doing this now?
I created, all right, so August of 2016 was when my first videos started coming
out.
Or actually that's not true, June, July, but those videos don't exist anymore.
The earliest one you'll find on my channel will be, I believe, August of 2016.
So it's been a process of trying to-
Yeah.
The first four months, I didn't have 100 subscribers for the first four months.
You're obsessed with the subscriber number and the views and all that shit, huh?
It was a goal because I'm like, all right, so I did a complete 180 in my life
and I went
from like this path that was more that say normal and all the checkboxes.
And I'm like, well, if I'm going to do this, I want to be successful at it.
Right.
But I want to give back in the process.
And by give back, I mean like teach someone something.
Like I don't want to go do silly, dumbass videos even if it would make me more
money.
I'd rather be proud of something I'm doing, if that makes sense.
Right.
Yeah.
So the Atlantis one.
Yeah.
The Rishat structure.
Yeah.
I was wondering if you saw those videos, Joe.
Yeah, no, that was a big one that I saw because I've been fascinated by the
concept of Atlantis.
You know, ever since I had these conversations with Randall Carlson and Graham
Hancock about
the Younger Dryas impact theory and this concept that somewhere in the roughly
around 11,000,
12,000 years ago, we were hit by a series of comets.
And it's pretty evident that that's a fact.
If you do the core samples of the Earth, they find this nuclear glass all over
the Earth
that exists in that time period.
And it seems like something happened that reset civilization.
And there's very little evidence of advanced civilizations before that up until
recently,
up until the last couple of decades.
They started uncovering things like Gobekli Tepe and all these other structures
that are
clearly from more than 12,000 years ago.
And they're really complex and really large with enormous stones.
And it's sort of caused people to rethink the history of the Earth and the
history of human
civilizations.
And Atlantis has always been the big one.
That has been the one that everybody talked about was this incredibly advanced
civilization.
And no one can figure out where it is.
Right.
Or if it was real.
I think that Atlantis, because surely that wouldn't have been necessarily the
name just
through like the change of language, you know, over, let's say, 12,000,
13,000 years ago, which would be the time frame.
So like surely there would be several different changes of language.
But I think it represented a civilization that was doing great things.
They were more global than what many people think would be possible.
Atlantis was said to be a kingdom made up of or an empire, excuse me, made up
of 10 kingdoms.
And then there was the lost city of Atlantis, which was the capital, which was
said to be made up of
concentric circles, two of water, three of land.
And essentially that they were obliterated by a cataclysm as passed down by
Plato,
although it's worth mentioning that Plato got the story of Atlantis from Solon,
who was his uncle separated by six generations.
But what people, most people don't realize is that Solon had traveled to Egypt.
And so it's the ancient Egyptians is where that tale comes from, which makes it
even more bizarre
because I would argue that the most spectacular ancient civilization is the
Egyptians.
I mean, no disrespect to the Romans.
Hard to deny.
Right.
I mean, let me just say, because I want to, on this podcast, encourage people
to travel to Egypt.
Joe, you got to go.
I really want to.
A friend of mine just went and she got back and she was telling me incredible
things about it.
Jamie, will you pull up the photos of these concentric circles?
Tell him.
Yeah, the Rishat, R-I-C-H-A-T.
It's worth mentioning that.
He's got it already here.
Yeah.
In the first couple, I just want to say it's Rishat.
I used to call it Rickat.
I was mispronouncing it.
But let me ask you this, Joe, real quick.
When you saw my video, was that the very first time you had ever seen this
thing before?
Yeah.
That's the thing.
So many.
When I first saw this, I was like, what the fuck is that?
By the way, you see that white, all those white blemishes?
Uh-huh.
That's salt.
This was under the ocean.
And people, let me just say, you mentioned Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock.
I love them.
And I know for sure that they don't particularly think this is the site for a
few different reasons.
So let me say there's absolute doubt.
Even I am not 100% certain.
I'm not even 100% certain that lands has existed.
What I am certain is that humans were doing spectacular things in a civil, you
know, a cataclysmic event happened called the Younger Dryas and reset something
for somebody.
Is there a natural explanation for this formation?
Yes.
So let me say that it is considered to be mysterious.
They're not 100% certain of it.
However, the consensus is that it was a volcanic dome that had risen and
collapsed multiple times like 100 million years ago, allegedly.
I don't, I say allegedly.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with that.
I'm just saying I would like to know where sometimes they get these figures
from.
Like explain to me why it was 100 million years ago and not 99 or 98 because
here we are talking about how crazy things changed in just the last 12, 13,000
years.
So when they throw around these numbers, you know, 1 million years in itself is
an incredibly long period of time.
But getting back to your question, some had originally thought that maybe it
was an impact site from a, you know, an asteroid or perhaps, but there's no
evidence for it.
Like there's none of the nanodemps.
Well, the problem is there's these concentric circles.
Yeah.
I like that.
I've never seen anything.
I mean, obviously, I'm not an archaeologist, but I've never seen anything like
this in, I mean, if you study structures that are like man-made structures, I've
never seen anything like this that humans have made.
But I've definitely never seen like, go to that one where your cursor's on,
Jamie.
Yeah, please.
So is this?
You want to see some?
All right.
I'm sorry.
What is this?
Okay.
Okay.
One step at a time because we also have to take into consideration that people
are just listening.
So kind of describe what we're looking at here.
Okay.
So what you're looking at is approximately 250 miles inland in the total barren
desert of Mauritania, Africa.
So the Western Sahara.
But this image looks like, why is it blue?
That's just showing you the-
What it used to look like?
No, this is what it looks like right now through, I forgot what you call this
type of animation, but it's essentially, it's a satellite imagery that they
enhanced in order for you to see the difference in elevation and the actual
structure to itself.
Okay.
So like if there was water in this area, you would see it this way, that it
would be these concentric circles that are raised above the water and then the
water would be inside of it like that.
Well, just to clarify, this particular image, no, this is not trying to
represent water.
So that blue is actually picking up on salt.
Salt.
All that was salt.
But I mean, it used to be underwater, right?
It's salt because it was underwater.
That's what I believe.
And that's what makes the most sense to me.
Others will disagree.
And let me tell you why.
It is currently 1,200, 1,300 feet above sea level.
It's 250 miles inland.
And so some people say this was never under the ocean, at least not for the
last tens of millions of years is what the scientists claim.
I argue that since the salt is still there, and not only that, Jamie, if you go
to the other images that show you more of the white, the one that you were
previously on, the one to the middle to the left right there.
So those areas with the most white blemishes happen to be the areas that are
the lowest in elevation, which to me tells me that saltwater had settled there.
But not only that, Joe, Atlantis was said to be, like we said, multiple rings
of water and land.
However, it was said to open to the sea to the south.
And what you're looking at here, the south, so this is oriented north, south,
east, and west.
What do you see to the south?
And especially if we could get another.
This is a very flat area that looks like it's the lowest elevation.
Like around it looks like it's higher.
I mean, it's hard to tell from this image.
Jamie, will you Google map it?
Just type in, even if you went to Mortania, so you could see this from space.
Astronauts use it as a locator, and they weren't really familiar or aware of it
until the Gemini missions in the early 1960s.
So if you go to, like, if you just go to Google Earth, you could, you'll be
able to find this quite quickly.
It stands out, and it's why they call it the eye of Africa or the eye of the
Sahara.
All right, so just pan out a little bit, and it'll provide us with a much, keep
going.
All that, all that white is salt.
In fact, I have a friend, Josh Gertzen, that went out there and tasted that
shit off the fucking ground.
That's salt.
Because a lot of people say, this was never under the ocean.
And I'm like, all right, you see all that?
Even Randall Carlson himself, which, let me just say, he, for a few reasons,
doesn't, he favors the Azores.
He doesn't think this is likely to be the location for a few reasons.
He favors what?
The Azores, the island chained, which would be, it's, it's.
And he thinks that that was Atlantis?
He, to him, he's partial towards that, but, so he analyzed this site.
And you see all the striations?
How it looks like the, the ocean, or, so that's all water erosion, Joe.
And if you scroll in, so remember when Randall was on your show and he showed
you the Missoula, Missoula floodplains?
And all those giant ripples from the huge current that it went through?
This, this is here.
So scroll in, right there where your cursor is, Jamie.
The, yeah, scroll right in.
You're going to see those same water ripples.
Keep going.
Because this, what you're looking at here is panned out.
This is many miles.
Like, keep in mind, this structure is 30 miles across.
That's crazy.
That looks like the bottom of the ocean, like if you see where the water breaks
on the sand.
Yep.
And I have, there's better pictures.
Wow, that's crazy.
And that, just to clarify, that salt, or excuse me, that white is salt.
And that is the, because that's, a lot of people don't know, Joe, that the Sahara
Desert wasn't a thing until approximately 5,000 years ago.
It's only in the last several years, and by the way, I'm quoting MIT research
here, that the Sahara goes back and forth from green to desert approximately
every 20,000 years.
They believe it has something to do with the earth's tilt, and that's worth
discussing.
But, so this whole area, because people are like, well, that's not Atlantis.
I'm like, well, first of all, if this whole, if the Western, or excuse me, the
Sahara Desert was a lush green tropical paradise, which had the largest known
freshwater lakes ever known to have existed, for example, Mega Lake Chad, which
is, it's like three times more water surfaced than all of the North American
Great Lakes combined.
It's a big sucker.
Holy shit.
How's it not an ocean?
I know.
It's all freshwater?
It was when it existed, and that was at the time when the Sahara was green.
And it also had some of the largest known rivers exist that were known to have
existed throughout the world.
I think they'd still be ranked 10th today or something like that.
But, so you have to, when you see this, people have to imagine that this area
was once green, and that if that, because one of the arguments I make is that
the fact that that salt is on top of that dirt, to me, is indicative that the
ocean flowed over here far more recently than what people think.
How wide is this structure?
Okay, so.
These concentric circles.
I meant to bring, I brought a laser.
Do you have a laser pointer in here?
No.
It's okay.
So, the circles themselves is about 14 and a half miles across.
However, if you go the complete shebang, the whole circle itself is just shy of
30 miles.
So, the whole thing is 30 miles, which would be like the size of a city.
Right.
Well, keep in mind, the outer ring would have been water.
So, that wouldn't have necessarily counted.
But, some people will say that this is too big according to Plato's description.
And, let me just say that I'm like, well, hold on a second.
I don't think that we should consider that, because of loss of translation,
that we should consider the measurements a key detail.
The question becomes, is it big enough to be a city with possibly millions of
people?
Because, the way it was described is that it was a city that was said to be
busy all day, all night, rich in trade, with languages spoken from all over.
So, I'm like, okay, that would imply millions of people.
I mean, if a city is busy all day and all night, I think of large metropolitan
areas like New York, Chicago, London, whatever.
And so, if this was indeed an ancient or a site of an ancient civilization,
well, then it would have – I mean, they're obviously not going to have skyscrapers.
So, it would have to be an area big enough to sustain that many people, and the
Rishat structure certainly does.
And so, the idea would be that this would lead out to the ocean, and that these
circles would be where the water is, and then the ridges would be where the
structures are, where the houses and the buildings are.
Yep. And people will say, well, where is that stuff now?
I'm like, well, look at it. It got obliterated.
Yeah, those people should shut the fuck up.
But if you just look at what's going on with the sand and those clear water
erosion marks on the sand, but that also could be wind, right?
Couldn't the way that the ripples in that sand, couldn't that be wind?
Both. However, just to clarify –
Because is that sand where the cursor's at right there?
Yes, that's all sand.
However, the – it's also – actually, go to the right where it says layers,
Jamie.
Can you scroll in right there?
Because those will show you the ripples more.
So, it's a combination of sand and rock in between.
You mean to the left? Lower left?
Right there. That's what I'm talking about.
Those are giant ripples.
And I'm quoting – let me just say, I'm quoting Randall Carlson, who I
consider to be an expert on these – on geological formations.
And so, yeah.
Right. But isn't that what wind-driven sand looks like?
If you go to dunes, dunes look like that.
Yeah, and undoubtedly –
But hold on. This is sand, right?
Yes. Well, it's combination. Rock and sand in between.
Right. But this is like what it would look like if wind-driven sand and rock
underneath it.
Right. So, what – the implication is that it was blasted by water, and then
after that, the wind has done its thing and moved the sand all over it and in
between.
So, 20,000 years ago, this was all green, lush forest?
No, Joe. 5,000.
5,000? Really?
So, I could – yes. So, I could show you –
When do they think Atlantis was?
11,600 is allegedly when it was destroyed, which mirrors the Younger Dryas
climate catastrophe.
Because – so, Plato had – so, this is 600 B.C., and Plato said that it
happened 9,000 years earlier.
So, that would be 11,600 years ago, which coincides with the Younger Dryas
climate catastrophe, which makes it so compelling.
To me, that is actual scientific evidence that indicates that Atlantis actually
existed because it's very specific.
It is very specific, but it's not scientific, right?
It's like there's no real evidence.
Okay. Let me rephrase. That a civilization – yes. Let me rephrase. A
civilization got fucked.
Yeah.
11,600. So, never mind Atlantis. Let me rephrase. A civilization was around.
The stories of it were passed down, and they got obliterated. So, that's what I'm
implying.
Well, we all – we definitely know that the Younger Dryas impact theory is
extremely plausible.
There are, without a doubt, like many, many impact points on Earth where they
find this tritonite, this nuclear glass, which you can get either from a
nuclear explosion or you get it from some sort of a meteor impact, large scale,
all over the continent.
And we know that – all over the planet, I should say. We know that that
happened.
Yep.
This is like real hardcore geological evidence.
So, if we know that there were structures before that, which we do now because
of Gobekli Tepe and a few other places that they're reasonably sure were pre-11,000
years ago, 12,000 years ago, then we know that something was around back then
that was very sophisticated.
How sophisticated, we don't know.
But then the other thing is like how much would be left?
You know, if you've ever seen those photographs of Detroit where you see houses
that are being consumed by trees?
Yeah.
And there's some great ones in Russia as well where they have – these
photographers have taken to going into these abandoned cities and watching the
nature, like watching trees and the greenery consume these houses.
But in Detroit, we're only talking about a couple decades, you've got trees
growing through the center of houses.
So, the houses had holes in them.
Rain came in through the holes.
Right.
There's holes in the floor.
Something, whether it's a tree or something, grew up through the floorboards,
burst through the floorboards.
See if you can find some of those images, Jamie, because they're really
fascinating.
And so, for people to just get an understanding of timescale, what we're
looking at in these images –
Quick one I found real fast.
Yeah.
So, that's one –
It's not for the house, but –
Yeah.
So, it's one from 2009 and then you see it from 2013.
It's basically consuming that house.
So, in 2009, you just have a house in between two houses.
In 2013, the house is abandoned and it's being consumed by trees.
It looks like it's been condemned.
It looks like it's going to fall in on itself pretty soon.
Yeah, but it's four years.
It's wild.
That's what's crazy.
In four years – I mean, if you came back four years later and you saw that
the house is abandoned – like, right now, in 2009, it looks like a normal
house.
Like, you drive by, oh, there's a house.
Yeah.
In 2013, you go, oh, the house is getting eaten by trees.
But there's some other ones from Detroit, Jamie, where you can see houses where
the trees are actually growing up through the center of the house.
I'll find one.
I just –
Okay.
No worries.
No worries.
But my point is, this is just a few years.
Right.
If you go a few hundred years, everything's gone.
Look at the Titanic.
Granted, it's under the ocean, but in just over a little more than 100 years
–
Look at that one.
It's more than 50% gone already.
Look at that one right there.
Oh, that's good.
That's crazy.
I like that.
Yeah, that's 60 years.
Like, this house has been absolutely consumed by trees.
You know, Joe, people ask, they'll say, well, where's the rest of the evidence?
I'm like, all right, so first of all, metal rusts away.
Some people say, well, what about the plastic?
I'm like, who said they did plastic?
And by the way, if they were to, what makes you think that they would choose
petroleum for it?
Because the hemp plant used to grow naturally throughout the world before it
was eradicated.
And you can make completely biodegradable hard plastic out of hemp plants.
Yeah, you can.
And this is something we absolutely should be doing right now.
How dare you, Joe?
How dare you?
That big oil, come on now.
Isn't it fascinating, though, when you think about the idea that these
civilizations were super advanced
but did it in an incredibly different way than the way we're doing it?
Like, we think that the only way to be super advanced is to have heavy
machinery, to have electronics,
to have, you know, 5G, wireless internet access, and all these different things.
But what they did somehow was figure out a way how to cut these immense stones
and move them from hundreds of miles away.
And they figured out how to do this where they left behind no evidence of the
construction.
It's wild.
And this is one reason, Joe, I want you to get to Egypt so bad.
Because when you see these stones, so I had a really, in my own mind, I
remember thinking, picturing what it would look like before I went to Egypt,
what it would look like in person.
Joe, it's bigger and far more, everything's bigger and far more impressive in
person, and the pictures never do it justice.
I went over there with an ultra-wide camera lens, and, like, you know, that's
the only way to get the full capture of many of these stones.
But yet it distorts, it doesn't show you just how big they are.
So one of the things I like to do is have somebody stand next to it and then
take the photo because then you can actually appreciate it.
Yeah, I saw pictures of you next to it.
And you're about 5'10".
Is that what you're trying to say?
Yeah, I try to say it all the time.
5'10", so people can be, like, just, you know, an average-sized guy just...
Yeah, there you go.
Okay, yeah, look at this.
You see that.
That is a 125-ton stone.
That is...
Oh, shout-out to my Instagram, Bright Insight.
Let me just say real quick.
Bright underscore Insight on Instagram.
Yeah, but just to clarify, there's another channel called Bright Inside.
Oh.
I think they're ripping me off, to be honest, but that's another story.
But I just wanted to clarify that.
And, Joe, it's actually kind of hilarious being on here right now.
Because I never even shared my last name.
The internet didn't know.
Like, if you type Bright Insight Corsetti...
So I'm Jimmy Corsetti, to anyone listening.
And I decided to keep my last name off the internet.
Because when I first started this, I'm like, all right, I'm talking all kinds
of crazy topics.
I don't want the attention.
Leave me alone.
But coming on here, it's like, why hold it back any more?
And so, anyways, it's funny.
Nobody gives a shit.
Yeah, no, who gives a shit.
Yeah, exactly.
And the funny thing is, Joe, it's like, well, yeah, whatever.
Well, look at these images, man.
These stones.
What's fascinating to me is how they're uneven, but yet they're perfectly fit
into place.
I mean, what I mean by uneven is they're a bunch of different shapes.
For the people that are just listening, and if you go to the Bright underscore
Insight Instagram page,
there's plenty of images that Jimmy has up here.
But these stones are much, much taller than him.
They're immense.
And they're these weird shapes, but yet they fit into each other perfectly.
But what's crazy also is they're smooth in some places where they're like, it's
almost like artistic, right?
Like the way they jumbled them all together, but like perfectly fit them.
Look at that.
God, that's amazing.
Scroll over again, Jamie, because I'm going to wow you one more time, I think.
All right, so that stone right there is 17 feet tall above ground and another
12 below.
Or maybe it's the other way around.
Maybe it's 12 and then 17.
I can't remember, but it's a 29-foot-long stone.
At least 100 tons.
So they dug under the ground, or did the ground consume it?
Dug.
Well, I believe.
Hard to say.
That's what I was told.
Right?
It's hard to say because a lot of the structures in ancient Egypt, especially
the Old Kingdom,
they found them underneath where they were buried by sand, which is obviously
very different.
This is just hard dirt.
Yeah.
And where in Egypt was this?
Oh, I'm sorry.
This is Peru.
Oh, this is Machu Picchu?
No, so this is Sacsayhuaman is what it's called.
And it's these huge polygonal walls, these terraces.
And all right, because I can see it on there.
I'm such a nerd, Joe.
You got to-
Look at that doorway.
It's huge.
And that first picture we were showing you that I said is 125 tons, just to put
it into
perspective for people, that's more than three 737-800s, which is like a common,
say, Southwest
jet, heavier than three of those suckers, that one stone.
And they're not even entirely sure where it came from.
It's like, how did they move it?
Yeah, see, I put this in there.
I'm into planes, Joe.
So for comparison, because they also made the comparison that it's 20,000
pounds heavier
than a 767-400, which is a wide-body jetliner.
Can you go back, Jamie?
Go back one?
It doesn't matter.
That's fine.
These stones, do they have an idea of where the quarry was?
Not exactly.
It's at least 20 miles here.
But there's other places, say, Egypt, where you have these 70-ton stone blocks
that were
moving more than 500 miles.
Yeah.
And the only boats that they had that we know of were completely incapable of
carrying something
like that.
That's correct.
Now, that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't have something that's since gone
away.
But I have to say something, because I know exactly, because there's so many
people out
there that will cite, there was a discovery a handful of years ago of this papyrus
that
had, it was essentially a receipt for limestone blocks that were brought up the
Nile and delivered
to Giza.
And many people have said, oh, see, this is, there was such clickbait fraud
headlines about
it saying, you know, papyrus describing how they built the pyramids.
That is the biggest clickbait nonsense, because if you actually look at what
was detailed on
it, it doesn't say anything.
It doesn't use the word pyramid.
It doesn't say what they were used for.
All it says is horizon of Khufu.
And so what some people interpret that to mean is that the alleged pharaoh who
built the
Great Pyramid, his name was Khufu, and that horizon of Khufu essentially could
indicate,
oh, his resting place as in horizon being to the west, where you go when you
die.
That's all that thing says.
And it was already known, Joe, that some of the blocks were bought to Giza.
So I just want to point that out, because I know that people are going to
Google this
stuff and be like, oh, no, no, we know exactly how they did it.
I'm like, I like how you use this goofy voice.
You have your dissenters, all your dissenters have goofy voices.
As you're sitting here, you got this papyrus that will explain everything.
It doesn't.
So this papyrus is some kind of a receipt?
Is that the idea?
It was, I forgot.
Yes, it was.
I'm forgetting his name off the top.
But it was a gentleman and he was moving blocks.
But the thing that people need to realize is that there are hundreds and
hundreds of other
structures right around the Great Pyramid that are unbelievably smaller.
And the blocks are unbelievably smaller than the ones in the pyramid.
There's a lot of things that were built there over a few thousand years.
So it's like that, it doesn't prove that it was for the pyramid.
And I don't think it is.
But who knows?
Because I know how the skeptics are.
So I want to be open-minded.
But like the reality is that it does not say pyramid.
It doesn't describe how anything was constructed.
It's worth saying.
But either way, it is a limestone receipt.
So there was some sort of trade in these stones.
And is there any depictions of transport of these blocks?
Zero, except there is one that was, I don't know if it was the tomb of Renkara
or whatever.
I might be getting the name wrong.
But it shows a 58-ton statue that they dragged on sleds.
And it seems to depict them pouring water.
But it's worth mentioning.
What is that one?
How does someone find that?
I'd have to, I mean, I have it on my, I brought my computer.
I just don't have it in here with me.
I wish I could show it to you.
Type in Egyptians sled statue.
And Google will bring that up under Google image.
Is that it right there?
Boom.
So that's a recreation because this was destroyed and damaged.
But someone had interpreted it.
It was destroyed and damaged how?
I believe it was water flooding.
There was different places.
I could be wrong on that.
Can you click on that, Jamie, so we could see it larger?
But they're showing, that's what was allegedly depicted.
And I use allegedly just because we can't see it today.
But I don't have any doubt.
I'm just saying.
But so that...
Hold, slow down.
Sorry.
When we're talking about this, like when was this destroyed?
Oh, not long.
In 1850, something like that.
Scroll down, Jamie, so you can see the head of it.
A hundred something years ago.
Down, down, Jamie.
Yeah, so we get the full image.
Look out.
So the idea is that you got all these guys pulling.
It's on a sled and they're pouring water.
And how old do they think this image was?
I believe, if I remember right, 3,500 years.
Well, that seems pretty reasonable that they moved it this way.
Have you ever seen those videos from the 1930s of them moving entire buildings,
like huge buildings?
I haven't seen that.
See if you can find the time-lapse videos of them moving buildings from the
1930s.
Not only did they move these buildings like several inches a day and they
completely rotated like 180 degrees where the foundation of the building lay,
but they also kept the power and electricity and the gas on.
Yeah, this one I just told you that I'll do.
Watch this.
This is it.
People didn't quit working the entire time.
Yeah, the people that were in the building kept working.
So it's an eight-story, 11,000-ton Indiana Bell building rotation in 1930.
So in 1930, first of all, you have to take into consideration the sophistication
of the machinery was very different than what we have today.
I mean, most of these buildings were made with bricks.
They had steel beams and structures.
I'm sure you've seen those construction photos of these guys that were eating
lunch on a beam high above New York City.
Which is fucking wild.
Never do that.
That scares the shit out.
I get sweaty hands just looking at those pictures.
I'm not even afraid of heights.
Go back to that video, please.
But that video of this building, I mean, you think about it.
This is in 1930, and, you know, obviously we can do much more today than we
could then.
But what they did, play it.
Yeah, I know.
But when you watch this happen, like, this is fucking wild, man.
They moved this entire building.
I am, let me just say, I am less impressed by the moving of things.
Because technically, like, if you use wedges, you could lift a whole house.
They just keep jamming them in there.
It's kind of like, so, although one random thought I'm having is that with that
prior illustration of that 58-ton statue,
there's other ones in Egypt called the Colossae of Memnon, and those are 720
tons apiece.
And they were carved, estimated from a one, out of one piece of stone, a
thousand-ton stone.
And moved tremendous distances.
So I'd like to see that done.
But I would think that that same method could be done to scale.
And so I don't disagree with it.
What I am curious about, Joe, is how they got those 120 or 130, 70-ton granite
blocks more than 300 feet up into the Great Pyramid alleged king chamber.
Yeah.
Well, these images and that building, that's a good point, is that this is not
made with enormous stones.
Even though the building itself is enormous, we know that piece by piece it
wasn't really that big.
Right.
Except for the beams and some of the structural elements of it.
But if you look at some of those king's chamber stones, I mean, my God.
And they're so perfectly cut.
It's unreal.
It's unreal, Joe.
And that's the thing that impresses me more is the cuts themselves.
Yeah.
Because the Egyptians were said to be a Bronze Age culture, which means that's
supposed to be the most sophisticated type of tooling that they had.
However, when modern tests have been done on, you know, testing it on granite
and limestone, it's failed miserably.
And what I mean by that is that you can technically cut these things in half,
but it takes a tremendous amount of time.
And if they were alleged, because each pyramid, and keep in mind, there's more
like something like 118 pyramids in Egypt.
A lot of people don't realize that.
They just think of the, you know, the three big ones in Giza.
But all of these, if they were said to be tombs for the pharaohs, which I don't
agree with, and for a variety of reasons, they were all said to be done in a
chronological order and within a certain period of time.
And, like, when we were talking tens of millions of stone blocks in aggregate,
because, like, the Great Pyramid is 2.3 million.
You have the other couple that are a couple million a pop.
And then it does include all the other tens of millions of blocks that make up
statues, casing stones, other buildings, literally, I mean, I estimate, and
this is just a ballpark, but it had to have been at least 50 million stones cut
throughout ancient Egypt.
And I'm like, when you're doing it with methods that can barely get more than
an inch an hour, and by that I'm talking a copper saw, and they pour in sand
and water, and essentially the quartzite particles are what's cutting it.
But, Joe, it's so slow, and not to mention the precision is nowhere near it.
And so it's, like, it's a mystery.
Because there's a few things people need to know is that nowhere, and all the
tens of thousands of hieroglyphs found throughout ancient Egypt, not one single
one of them shows anything about them cutting stone, nor does it show anything
depicting the construction of a pyramid.
Well, we lost a lot during the Library of Alexandria burning, right?
Well, yes, although I've – so I made a video on that years ago saying that,
you know, the stupid Caesar burnt that thing down.
But, you know, I'm starting to think, Joe, I'm like, the Caesars were highly
intelligent, and they were gatherers of information and documented everything.
I'm like, you know, Joe, they kept that.
I would have raided that thing, took all that information, and now it gets me
thinking about, like, you know, Vatican archives and stuff.
Yeah, but hold on a second.
You weren't there, right?
Like, the Caesar probably wasn't there either.
No, he didn't.
They sent people.
Well, okay.
Right, but he invaded.
Yeah, they invaded.
But do you think, like, he was there?
Like, they probably had a bunch of barbarians at the helm, and these savages
were bloodthirsty, and they were getting crazy and killing people and taking
over Egypt.
They lit shit on fire.
They probably weren't even thinking, like, that, hey, the actual construction
methods that, you know, we could pass down from generation to generation are
here.
It's possible.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
So you think they kept it in the Vatican?
Well, no, no.
Hold on.
That is a fun topic.
I don't – I'm not convinced of it.
It just seems to me that throughout war, people gather intelligence whenever,
like, they capture somebody or they kill them.
And it just seems to me that the Caesars would have possibly – maybe they did,
maybe they didn't.
Maybe they burnt it all down, or maybe they kept that stuff because –
Have you been to the Vatican?
No.
It's wild.
Yeah?
The Vatican's confusing.
Yeah, because there's so much shit there.
I knew that there was an immense amount of artwork there, but when you actually
go there and you see the billions and billions of dollars worth of art that was
accumulated over who knows how many hundreds if not thousands of years, it's
pretty shocking.
Yeah.
It's like a raider's horde.
I mean, that's really what it is.
It's like they –
Well, yeah.
They clearly stole all this shit.
Yeah.
It's like the Romans.
You got to think about – because that all originates from the Romans.
I just want to remind everybody that, like, when they took over, like, a
quarter of the world's population, all of Europe, they didn't, like, show up
and, like, hey, you know, we'd like to just – can we have your land?
Like, everyone that didn't speak their language was a barbarian, and they pillaged,
raped, and took it and just stole it.
Yeah.
Like, it's ours now.
Yeah.
And they have it all in one spot, and that one spot is also its own country,
which is weird.
It's its own country inside Italy.
So it has its own extradition laws, which is great because it happens to be
overrun with pedophiles.
Yes, this is true.
It's pretty fucked.
And meanwhile, they have 53 miles of shelf space within that archive.
That's why I was getting my conspiracy ideas going because it's like no one's
allowed in there.
You have to be a certain academic, and you have to get permission, and not only
– so you can't just go browse it.
Right.
You have to specifically request what you want to look at.
And the issue with that is that if you don't know it exists, how do you know to
ask for it?
So it's like who knows what type of information could be in there?
I'm not suggesting that the shelves are lined with secrets from Egypt or
anything, but it does make me wonder – I mean, that's – 53 miles of shelf
space is an astronomical amount of old ancient texts.
Yeah, it really is.
It's pretty fascinating that this one country, whatever you want to call the
Vatican, has accumulated such an immense stash of artwork and of knowledge and
of information.
And just the tapestries alone that they have, you just pass by the paintings
and the sculptures.
It's like – it's really mind-blowing.
Like, I did it over the course of a couple of days, but I think you need months.
I imagine.
To go and really pay attention to it, to try to get a grasp of what the fuck
they were – and also, like, it's really weird.
Like, all the depictions of the men, they have tiny penises.
And I asked the – we had this guy who was a professor who was the – our
guide.
We hired a private guide.
He's really, really fun, really intelligent guy.
But he said that they thought of large penises as being animalistic and barbaric.
I've heard this.
So they have these men with these perfect bodies, like these Greek gods, these
tiny, tiny little penises.
You know what I think?
What?
Well, whoever carved that stone maybe had a small dick and wanted to be like,
see, this is normal.
This is what it looks like.
Because I'm sorry.
If you were doing quite well and were endowed, I think it is a natural thing
for women to like that, assuming that you're not too big.
And so – I mean, this is reality.
So it wouldn't have been any different – because people have always made fun
of small dicks because, like, you're not doing much for your lady potentially.
And so maybe these guys were carved by – there were some artsy guys and they
weren't packing.
But maybe if back then, if they – you know, the idea was that they were
trying to get away from barbarism.
They were trying to get away from these raiding hordes of beast-like men who
came – like, maybe they really did think of, like, god-like men as having,
like, smaller penises.
I mean, the weird thing about, like, aesthetics and what people like and don't
like is that it changes over time, right?
Like, at one point in time, really overweight women were considered attractive
because really overweight women had access to food.
Yeah.
Whereas really thin women were considered, like, sad and poor.
Like, a model of today.
If she went back to, like, the renaissance, they would look at her like this
poor girl.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
It just seems to me because, like, when you see that beautiful statue or
statues, that penis is so small, Joe.
They could have made it a little bit bigger is all I'm saying and still not
been barbaric.
I understand.
But, I mean, this is what this guy – I'm being humorous.
I know you are.
But this is what this guy was telling me, that this is what they were – I
mean, you're talking about a time, you know, 1,000, 2,000 years ago,
where you're dealing with the Roman Empire, you're dealing with the Germans and
the barbarians and the Mongols and the Khans.
And there's so much chaos and barbarism.
There's so much slaughter and just hardcore hand-to-hand combat.
And Genghis Khan was lighting bodies on fire and launched them in catapults.
And, like, it was wild times.
So I think that maybe they were just, like, trying to express, like, a more
delicate side of nature and mankind.
Anyway, it's not that important.
Yeah, it's a fun topic.
But what is important is that they did have in the center of one of their courtyards,
they have an obelisk from Egypt that they had imported somehow or another,
this fucking immense stone obelisk.
I took a photo of it.
I know it's on my phone somewhere, but I'm not going to find it right now.
But they brought it from Egypt.
And that's not close.
No.
You know, and they figured out a way to get that thing there.
Who knows how many fucking years ago?
I forgot.
It was like 100 or so years.
I could be wrong.
But I know that these obelisks have been brought over everywhere.
It's not just Rome.
They're in France.
They're in London.
It's in New York.
It's kind of weird.
New York has obelisks?
They have one in Central Park.
Really?
I'm 90% sure.
Oh, that's right.
We've talked about this.
Yes, that's right.
That's right.
Yeah, go to that photo because that's fucking wild.
We have an Egyptian obelisk in Central Park.
What was the significance of the obelisk?
Why were the Egyptians really interested in that particular shape?
It's a good question.
I don't think anyone can say with certainty.
Cleopatra's Needle.
Go back to that, please.
Yeah, look at that.
The description.
Cleopatra's Needle in New York.
No, go back right there.
Cleopatra's Needle in New York City is one of the three similarly named
Egyptian obelisks, erected in Central Park, west of the Metropolitan Museum of
Art in Manhattan in January 22nd, 1881.
Wow.
That's pretty cool.
It is very cool.
Although it's worth mentioning, though, Joe, like Egypt has been completely rat
fucked.
It has been looted over millennia.
You had the ancient Greeks invaded, the Romans invaded.
I mean, Alexander the Great went through.
Egypt was, for whatever reason, a highly desirable spot where it has been
completely numerous times over history has been just completely decimated and
stolen and everything else.
And I find that interesting, Joe, because I'm like, they were drawn to it for
who knows how many different reasons.
I mean, why would they feel over thousands of years people have been trying to
take that place over and have, actually?
Because even the British, like when you look at like their more modern history,
Joe, that place has been completely screwed with for thousands of years.
And it's worth mentioning that if you go back to the alleged pyramid builders,
which was said to be the fourth dynasty of 4,500 or so years ago.
Why do you say alleged?
You don't think that they're the people that built it?
There's pretty good evidence.
Somebody built it.
There's pretty good evidence that it's 2,500 B.C. was the construction date of
the pyramids, right?
Well, yes.
And I don't necessarily disagree with that.
But here's what my issue is that a lot of people don't realize that.
So that was said to be the old kingdom.
And there's been three kingdoms, Joe, and three what they call intermediate
periods.
So, for example, 4,500 or so years ago, Great Pyramid, the Pyramids of Giza.
Within 1,000 years after that, there was two periods of time where there's
approximately 345 years of lost history.
And they call them intermediate periods.
So it went from Old Kingdom, intermediate period, which was like 120-something
years, to Middle Kingdom, and then another one of like 200-something years.
So within less than 1,000 years after the alleged times that they were built,
there's more than 300, almost 350 years of – because there was turmoil, by
the way.
The intermittent periods were – there was revolts.
It was complete overthrow of the dynasties, civil war.
So I'm like, what is it that the reoccurring theme that we see whenever there's
a war?
You know, the – you know, history is written by the victors, so to speak.
I think it was Winston Churchill that said that.
And it's like in those periods of time when whoever took over and took the
power and claimed that kingdom for themselves, which may have been inner.
It may have been like, you know, a civil war revolt or whatever, revolution of
some kind.
That right there to me is indicative of lost history.
So what I – my point that I'm getting at is that I don't know how much faith
I put in that this alleged fourth dynasty was the ones that physically did it.
I'm saying that maybe it was somebody else, and those people claimed it for
themselves, saying, I did this, perhaps.
Because it's like the implications of 340-plus years of lost history
immediately after that, that – I think there's something to be said for that.
Because look at what ISIS did, Joe.
Like they went through Iraq, and so I'm an Iraq war veteran, and I had the
privilege of seeing these Assyrian bulls.
I think they're Sumerian because they found them completely buried in mud and
dirt.
And so I'm thinking like it goes back pre-flood, so to speak.
And that these – so ISIS went through and completely bulldozed them.
They got jackhammers.
And it's pretty wild.
One of the –
What are you saying they got jackhammers?
They destroyed them?
Is that what you're saying?
Oh, yeah.
Jamie, will you please bring up the gates of Nagal or type in Mosul, ISIS,
ancient?
So what's so wild, Joe, is that I had a – I was at the right place at the
right time in Mosul during my deployment in 2009 and 2010 to be able to see and
touch these things with my own hands.
And this is at the gate of Nagal at the ancient city of Nineveh.
How old were these things, supposedly?
Well, so they'll say, you know, like 4,000 years old or so.
I wonder if – so not there.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
They're destroying these things?
Oh, my God.
This is horrible.
I know, Joe.
Oh, my God.
Footage shows Islamic State militants in Iraq smashing statues of sledgehammers
and a bid to crush what they call non-Islamic ideas.
Oh, my God.
This is fucking horrible.
It gets worse than this.
Oh, my God.
All right, so –
Oh, my God.
This is fucking terrible.
It's hard to see, man.
Oh, my God.
Fucking humans.
So they're destroying these thousands of year-old artifacts and they're doing
it with sledgehammers.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
This is crazy.
Yep.
Oh, my God.
These fucking idiots.
So, yeah, see, there's the jackhammers.
But that's not even – these aren't even the images I'm – all right, so
there.
That's where I was.
That's the gate of Nergal.
The ancient city of Nineveh was said to be where Jonah had went after he
escaped the whale from the biblical story.
And so that's the same gate that allegedly he had went.
And so, Jamie, if you could just bring up – because there's a specific – a
few articles that show that spot
and these huge – are you familiar with the winged bulls?
They're called lamasu.
No.
They're like 15 feet tall.
You got to see them, Jamie.
This is so worth it.
And so they – these things were unbelievably impressive.
And they went through ISIS, Joe.
They got huge earth-moving equipment, like dozers.
And they – all right, there it is.
This is what I'm talking about.
So the picture on the upper left, that's exactly where I was.
And there's a picture of ISIS.
God, these fucking idiots.
So that picture with the guy in the black – that.
So I have a picture of me standing right in front of that.
Oh, my God.
He's just destroying that face.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Mm-hmm.
And it's wild because I remember seeing this on the news and being like, holy
shit, I stood right there.
And these things were so impressive.
And the artwork themselves, the precision of them was unbelievable.
Huge pieces of granite.
Someone should have stepped in.
I mean, we – fucking Christ.
If there's ever a reason to step in and stop morons from doing something
horrific, that is like a real priceless part of history.
The history of the entire human race.
Yep.
We should have stepped in.
Someone should have stepped in to stop that.
That is fucking priceless stuff.
Yep.
God, that's horrible.
Oh, my God.
Look at that.
So this is what gets my brain going, Joe.
I'm like, this is humans –
They've been doing this since 2014?
Just destroying these things?
Oh, they're done now.
It's all gone?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
They did their dirty work well, Joe.
Fucking morons.
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Look at this.
This is insane.
So that's what stands out in my mind, Joe, is that I'm like, you know –
God, that's horrific.
Yeah.
And it does – something tells me this isn't the first time –
Oh, look how they destroyed that.
Oh, my God.
This can't be the first time humans have invaded a place and destroyed stuff
from the past
because they didn't want it to exist, maybe for religious reasons or for
whatever.
And so when I hear about this lost history in Egypt immediately after the
dynasty that was
said to have built the pyramids, it makes me wonder what history was lost in
that process
by either claiming it for themselves, like, I did this, and then essentially
that was passed
down to something we are talking about today.
God, this is so hard to watch.
You look at those images, it's so hard to watch.
You know, because I've been obsessed with the ancient Middle East as well,
like the ancient Sumerians and Mesopotamia and, you know, basically the cradle
of civilization,
of what we know of civilization, to see them just destroy those things.
Like, fucking Christ.
Some of the oldest relics ever.
Now, yeah.
God, it's so disturbing.
Humans, huh?
It's not humans, it's morons.
Yeah.
Most humans would revere those things.
Yeah.
Most humans would look at those things and say, my God, like, what incredible
structures
and, like, this is a window into the past and we can try to figure out, like,
what these
people were like and what life was like.
Yeah.
Fucking God, Jesus.
It's hard to say.
It is.
And there was no effort to stop that?
None, Joe.
So this is, this was the hardest thing for me, Joe, is that, so I volunteered
to go to Iraq.
I, I was inspired by 9-11.
I, so I volunteered to go there because I thought I was liberating the Iraqi
people.
And coming home and seeing that in the way the, so the, one of the worst things
you could
say that happened when ISIS invaded is that they killed off the Yazidi people,
which were
a completely peaceful people who lived in essentially in northern Iraq, Kurdistan.
And these people were absolutely harmless and they came through and they killed
the men and
they took the women.
So along with killing the, or beating up those statues, they were also
completely decimating
the people themselves.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, and this is modern humans, which are relatively speaking are less vicious
and less barbaric.
I mean, if you study like Steven Pinker's work, as you go back in history,
people are
more violent as you go forward in history, life is safer and you have less
crime and less
rape, less murder.
So going back to your point when we were talking about the Romans and the savages
and the, you
know, the, the barbarians.
So let's back up another 2,500 years before even them, which would be like
Great Pyramid
of Giza time.
So isn't it fair to say that those people would have been capable of destroying
and just doing
their dirty work well, you know, despicable barbaric savagery, you know what I
mean?
So it makes me wonder, like, I think that there is, okay.
So for example, when I was saying that there's no depictions of any kind of how
they cut these
stones, I think it's because someone destroyed that.
Honestly, I don't think it's because they didn't record it somewhere.
I think it's just somewhere along the line.
Somebody beat the shit out of it.
Well, there's no dispute of that.
That's what the, the concept of the burning of the library of Alexander.
That's what most people believe.
Yeah.
The, the theory is that they went in there and lit everything on fire.
Right.
That's where all the records were.
Now, out of the, out of the construction that is depicted in the pyramids, is
there any
construction of the flooring?
Like, cause there's immense stones they used for just the floors.
Yeah.
So.
Is there any of that?
Zero, Joe.
No.
Literally zero.
The only depiction of any kind goes from the, uh, tomb of Renkare or something.
If I, it's hard to pronounce, but it just shows some guys dressing a stone and
also a statue
with some chisels.
It doesn't show how they cut the blocks.
Does it, what is the name of the, uh?
R-E-N-I-E-K-E-R-E, I think.
But I think I'm misspelling it, to be honest.
Um, and it, but it doesn't show anything about cutting or anything.
And, and, and one of the things, Joe, is that there is different clear
technology, um,
in the, in the works of the Egyptians.
You have some that's incredibly crude and some of it truly megalithic and
spectacular.
And what I argue, and others do as well, is that simply you're looking at two
different
things done by different people in different periods of time that had different
capabilities.
And some are more impressive than others.
And what's interesting is, at least as far as carbon dating, some of the least
impressive
stuff is the later stuff.
That's what's so interesting, Joe, is that the most spectacular stuff is the
oldest.
Yeah.
And that's why, to me, I wonder, one, if the pyramids could be older.
And if not, I think that our understanding, it's because it's one of two ways.
Either they're older and we have since, because of time and the sands of time,
have lost how
they did it, or our understanding of what the so-called dynastic Egyptians were
up to 4,500
years ago is just significantly different than what we know today.
But correct me if I'm wrong, but they have carbon dated some of the material
that's inside
of the cracks of some of the stones.
And that's what they come up with is 2,500 BC.
I think even Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and Robert Schock and all these
other people
that are arguing for an earlier date for some of the construction, they believe
that, like,
the Great Pyramid of Giza, that that one is 2,500 BC.
They certainly do.
And I'm not disagreeing.
It is possible, though, that the Egyptians had restored those casing stones,
because if
you look at the Great Sphinx, it's already known.
So the Great Sphinx is supposed to be 4,200 years old, but something like 100
or 200 years
after that is the evidence of the first restorations of adding more casing
stones.
And so it's like, well, maybe that happened to the pyramid as well.
So technically, it doesn't prove that that is the birth of the Great Pyramid,
but that the
earliest evidence of when humans had did something to it since.
But let me just say, let me be clear.
I'm not suggesting, and I haven't said in a video that I think that the pyramids
are 12,000
years old.
I just, what I think is that the reality is that it's a mystery.
We don't know how they did it.
Can I ask you this?
Sure.
What, when they, when they, the thing about carbon dating is you don't really
do that with
rocks.
You can't.
Because if you did, everything would be billions of years old.
Right.
Because these rocks are billions.
Yeah, you cannot date stone.
Right.
So what are they, they're using pieces of material that they find at the site,
under the ground,
like next to it, and then they kind of get a rough idea?
Sure.
Is that the idea?
Anything that's organic.
Anything that, you know, anything that was, whether it's a piece of wood or an
ancient piece
of leaf that's, you know, stuck to a rock or something.
So yeah, to me, all it proves is that somebody had done something to it then.
I don't think it 100% proves it was done, built originally then.
It's possibly restored it because if we know that the, there's no discrepancy
on, on the
restoration of the Sphinx.
In fact, it shows that it's been restored several times.
Even the Romans restored it.
But the earliest, um, the earliest restoration was something less than that.
How did the Romans restore it?
What did they do?
Casing stones to it.
It's actually pretty wild to see, um, you got to see it in person or a picture
of it
for me to show you, but like just adding stones over it to make it look better,
I guess, like
just to fill in.
Yeah, I know they've done that more recently with the paws.
Significantly, actually.
It kind of sucks that they did it.
I agree.
I don't know why they would, it just seems so dumb that they would fuck with
that and
try to make it smooth and pretty.
Like part of what's beautiful about is the age of it.
But, um, the Robert Shaka, I've had on the podcast before, he was the first geologist
to stick his neck out and say that the water erosion around the Temple of the Sphinx
indicates
thousands of years of rainfall.
And like you were saying, when it comes to the Sahara, uh, it's the same thing
with the
Nile Valley.
The last time there was significant rainfall in the Nile Valley was 9,000 years
ago.
And then you have to look at the thousands of years of rainfall required to
make these deep
fissures in the stone where the, the softer areas are eroded.
And you have these deep, you know, vertical fissures that indicate that water
coming down
from the top and leaking through have created all this stuff.
And so his, his timeline is thousands of years before 9,000 BC, because it's
required that
much time to create this erosion.
And that's very controversial around, um, traditional, like, uh, the, the Egyptologists
that want to
follow the conventional timeline.
They come up with all sorts of alternative reasons for why these fissures exist.
But one of the more fascinating things that Robert Shock did was he put, uh,
masking tape over the
areas that would clearly indicate where this was happening.
And he brought it to a series of geologists and he said, does this, this image
represent,
in your opinion, wind and sand erosion, or does it indicate water?
All of them said it indicated water.
All of them said it indicated rainfall.
And then, and then when he pulled it aside and showed that this was actually
the, the Sphinx,
they were like, I'm not putting my fucking name on that.
Like very few of them wanted to stick their neck.
More have since, since he's come forward, more, there's been many geologists
that have
agreed with him.
But initially people were very hesitant to stick their neck out because in
academia, which
is really fascinating, challenging conventional ideas gets you in deep shit
because even though
we would like to believe that these archaeologists and scientists and
historians only base their
opinions on data, only base their opinions on what's in front of them, that's
not true.
A lot of them have a long history of teaching things that eventually turn out
to be incorrect.
And they are deeply embarrassed and they fight it tooth and claw.
They do everything they can to discredit any idea that they could be incorrect.
And it's fascinating to watch.
And one of them that was fascinating to watch was John Anthony West and Robert
Schock had
had this conversation about the Sphinx and about the erosion of the Sphinx with
this conventional
Egyptologist that was working with Zawi Hawass, who was the head of antiquities.
And when they did have this conversation, the way this guy was mocking them,
the way this
guy was saying, where's the evidence of this civilization from 12,000 years ago
capable of doing this?
Like he was using your mocking voice, like using the voice that you use for
your detractors.
And it wasn't a scientific conversation.
It wasn't like a fact-based objective analysis of all the evidence that's in
front of you.
It was instead this guy trying to defend these decades of teaching.
He's been writing books and papers and teaching lectures about this stuff.
And it turns out he's probably really wrong.
And he was fighting it with every ounce of his being.
Now, since that, then the construction or then the rather excavation of Gobekli
Tepe took
place where they realized that this is undeniably at least 12,000 years old
because it was covered
somewhat intentionally.
They think that intentionally it was covered up, that it was buried 12,000
years ago.
So that means, well, how long was this fucking thing built?
How long ago was this made?
If someone intentionally covered it up 12,000 years ago, how long was it around
before they
did that?
Right.
So this is that evidence that guy was talking about.
This evidence of an advanced civilization.
Now we know for sure there's evidence of an advanced civilization.
We have the actual stone structures.
We have the actual carbon dating and not just a little bit of it.
We have massive amounts of it because the entire structure has been slowly
excavated.
And it reveals this enormous series of buildings and of stone columns and 3D
carvings that are
in it.
It's really wild, wild stuff.
And the idea that this was all done by unsophisticated hunters and gatherers
who had time to build this
in between eating berries and trying to kill squirrels, it's wild.
It is.
And there's a few things to say there, Joe.
So going back to Dr. Robert Schock.
So what I had heard is that when he presented that water erosion evidence of
the Sphinx,
apparently he was at a conference of nearly 200 geologists and everyone in the
room was
like, uh-huh, yeah, that's...
Because he did a comparison essentially as like, would you agree that this limestone
has
water erosion and would you agree that this limestone has wind and sand erosion?
It's a resounding yes.
And it turns out he was showing you two different parts of the Sphinx.
The enclosure has the water erosion and the above the neck and the chest has
the wind and sand.
And what's so wild about this, Joe, is that there's still so many people in the
so-called,
like on the mainstream, that are denying this water erosion.
Like, this is the thing, so, Jay, I don't consider myself an expert.
I'm somebody that can look at, I mean, I know more than maybe some, but like I
can look at
information and think for myself on a variety of topics.
Just show me I want to hear both sides and I can think, I can use discernment.
And what's so interesting to some people who are trying to debunk Dr. Robert
Schock's work,
it's like, you know, because we have www.google.com, you can literally go and
look for examples
of limestone from around the world that have known water erosion and then go do
the same
for wind and sand erosion.
And it's there for all who have eyes to see.
The enclosure has significant water erosion.
I mean, this is literally, you don't have to go to school for a bunch of years
to get
a doctorate in geology to at least wrap your head around that it is indeed
water erosion.
And the implications of it are astounding because it means that if the Sphinx
is supposed
to be 4,200 years old, and yet the last time the Nile Delta region had
significant rainfall
was nearly double the age of that, that in itself is, I mean, I would consider
it to be scientific
evidence that it is older.
Well, it's the hardest evidence we have, really.
Yeah.
Geological evidence is the most, it's the most tangible because you could
actually see it.
It's like, it's right there.
And everything else, they're slowly uncovering history.
And as they're literally uncovering it, they're digging this stuff up.
And particularly in Egypt, what's really fascinating is that they find these
completely different
building structures, like these construction methods.
If you go back to the older buildings that are deeper under the ground, they
have a very different
style to them.
Yeah.
Like they use much larger stones and they use them like sitting on top of each
other, like
as like these structures in these hallways and columns.
And it's like, you clearly see the difference between the stones where they
laid stones next
to each other and this one where there are immense stones sitting on other
immense stones.
There's a very specific style to them.
And it seems like the more sophisticated methods are the older methods because
the stones were
larger.
It's true.
And the reality is that what we know, the ancients were more advanced than what
we give them credit
for.
And one thing I've seen as I've gone down this path about talking about
potential lost technology
is people need to realize like the word advanced is relative.
When you say that they were advanced, some people will jump to the conclusion
like, oh, so you're
suggesting they had internet and let's go back to that voice again and Wi-Fi
and other things
like advanced is relative.
It means that they had more capabilities than what we give them credit for.
And yeah, it's another thing I was about to say is that I'm losing my train of
thought
on that.
They, oh yeah, technology.
Technology can be anything.
A saddle on a horse is technology.
When people think technology, some people jump in like, well, does that mean
they have lasers,
they have machinery and stuff?
I'm like, no, it just means they had a capability that is since gone or we're
just not aware
of.
Well, let's talk about the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber and the way that
they somehow
or another carved it out because there's real evidence that there was some sort
of a circular
drilling tool that they used to carve out the inside of the sarcophagus and
something that
had an incredibly hard cutting surface.
They don't know what it was, but if you go to, there's images of the inside of
the sarcophagus
and they showed that they were trying to figure out like how this thing was
carved.
See if the carving methods, circular drill, type in circular drill carving.
There was this whole debate about how they dug it out and they think that what,
correct me
if I'm wrong, but isn't it made out of one large piece of granite?
Correct.
Grows granite.
Yeah, and they think that what they did was use some sort of, does it show it
there?
I don't know.
All I remember seeing on it was rake marks.
Like it was crude.
There was some sort of a documentary that was pointing to some aspect of it
that said it
seemed like they used some sort of a circular drilling tool to hollow out the
center of this
thing.
What is that right there?
Lower left-hand corner.
Copper coring drills.
Copper coring drills.
Look at that.
Look at it right there.
The middle one there?
The middle one, yep.
What is that?
What the fuck is that?
So that's them carving out a, using that same drilling technique that you're
referring to
and just doing over and over again to carve out.
So there's a core grilled granite.
So you see it right there in the lower right hand, yeah, that's it right there.
Like look at that.
See, what is that?
Like how did they drill that?
Yeah.
So it says core drilled granite in ancient Egypt.
And what we're looking at is something that looks like it was a circular drill
that was pulling
out these cylinders from the granite.
And how they did that and how long it took.
See, this is an incomplete drilling, which is really fascinating because you
can actually
see that it probably took a long-ass time for them to do this.
And you see like a partially done version of it, but when you see these
circular cuts
like that right there, like what the fuck did they use?
Some argue that they, that the repetition of these drill holes was done at a
speed you
couldn't possibly do with your own hand.
I mean, I'm not.
How did they, why did they say that?
Well, so if you measure from each striation to the next, that would indicate
one revolution
of the drill.
And so some are saying that it's far quicker.
And let me give a shout out real quick to my buddy, Ben, who I went to Egypt
and Peru
with.
He has an awesome YouTube channel called Uncharted X.
And he-
Uncharted X is a great channel.
He's wonderful.
Yeah.
You, you would love to talk to him.
He's-
Is he from Australia?
He is.
He lives here in the States with his wife who are wonderful people.
And I got to tell you, he is, he gets deep into this stuff, Joe.
I'm sure he does.
His, his, his YouTube channel is incredible.
So if you look at this, this is a modern tool that they're using to do the same
or similar
work.
And what it is, is a tool that's on this like tread or track and it rolls in
and drills as
it rolls in.
And they have a circle.
It's, these are diamond tip machines that are hydraulic pressured and the Egyptologist
claim, it says right here, the Egyptologist claim that ancient Egyptians cut
granite using
copper saws, copper saws, water and sand.
It says fine, cutting granite, separating a stone block into two pieces.
We do not doubt this.
It's doable.
But to reach the level of precision found in, how do you say that word?
Abuser?
Abuser?
Abuser.
Abuser.
Should be two words.
manual work is not enough, not enough in terms of pressure and regularity in
order to cut
granite today.
We try to reach a pressure on the drilling head of 18 to 30 pounds per square
inch, which
is 226 to 380 pounds of pressure for a four inch diameter drill hole.
How can you apply such pressure by hand while keeping a mobile tool in order
for it to actually
perform the drilling?
This is the question.
So they're trying to figure out what the fuck these people use, but they use
something because
if you look at that, so that's a good example.
William Matthew Flinders Petrie during the late 19th century research, and he
wrote that
the level reached is astonishing in terms of the drilled holes.
So you can see the grooves.
Yep.
And the grooves help determine the power of the machines.
Here is what you were just talking about.
The space between the two grooves indicates how further the machine goes after
each drilling
revolution.
The space between grooves and Abuser are between one one-twenty-fifth of an
inch and one-tenth
of an inch.
Wow.
Look at that, look at that fucking crazy.
In 1983, Chris Dunn interviewed Dr. Ronald Rahn from the, am I saying his name
right?
That looks right.
R-A-H-N.
Ron, from the Ron Granite Surface Plate Company in Dayton, Ohio.
Ron indicated that in order to drill granite, they were using heads drilling at
a revolution
speed of 9,000 revolutions per minute, or 900, excuse me, 900 revolutions per
minute, going
one inch into the block every five minutes, every 300 seconds.
In other words, two one, two ten-thousandths of an inch for every revolution.
The tools used by the Egyptians were therefore 180 for one-tenth of an inch
between the grooves
to 450 for one-twenty-fifth of an inch in between the grooves, times better
performing than our
1983 modern technology.
Fuck.
That's crazy.
But look at these, we're looking at these images, folks, of these holes that
they cut
into the granite, and you see these perfect grooves where whatever they were
using, whatever
kind of drill they were using, had left behind.
And the fact that these drills were far better than what we had in the 1980s
when they wrote
this.
It's worth mentioning that, see, this is another example where there's two
different
examples, because I have seen examples where there's some that is primitive,
and you can
do it with like a piece of wood, and you just spend it over time, and you keep
grinding
away.
Hold on, don't change, don't change, stay right there.
Keep going.
And then there's a difference between these ones with the striations.
And I'm like, because some people, you know, immediately you're like, no, they
were capable
of doing some drilling with primitive methods.
I'm like, I agree.
But then you have these ones that are spectacular, and I would like to see
these methods demonstrated.
See, that's a thing, Joe.
There's going to be some people listening to this and be like, wow, I'm sure
that there's
got to be an explanation.
But Joe, I can show you videos of them demonstrating saw cutting techniques
that are said to have
been done by the Egyptians, or alleged, these primitive methods, and you see
how slow it
is, Joe.
Yeah, Jamie, stop scrolling.
Go up a little bit.
Look at this, what it says right here.
They're showing a video, and it says in this video, we see a 10-inch hole being
drilled in
only three minutes.
This is a modern video.
A real feat.
It says, let's do the same calculation.
By this time, it'll take a 1,200 RPM revolution speed 33% faster than in 1983,
so what they
had in 1983.
So all these calculations, blah, blah, blah, we're still, right now, in 1983,
they were
14 times less effective than the Egyptians with grooves separated by 1 25th of
an inch.
It says, but what does 14 times less efficient really mean?
It means that while our modern diamond tips machinery completed one revolution
and drilled
1 360th of an inch, the Egyptian tool had already drilled 1 25th of an inch 14
times more.
Wow.
The evidence is in front of us, Joe.
This is wild shit, man.
People say, you know, what's the evidence that ancients were advanced?
I'm like, it's right there.
Like, that, oh God, here we go.
This is the video they're talking about.
So this is the video of them using modern equipment to drill into it and saying
that
this stuff that they had in 1983, that the Egyptians had something that was 14
times better.
And keep in mind, again, diamond tipped.
That's what people need to remember.
Like, so are we suggesting the ancients had that?
Because that's what we're using.
And they pour water over it the whole time, too.
Because otherwise the thing will melt.
Right.
So we have zero idea how they did it.
Correct.
It is.
But we do know they did it.
Someone did it.
Absolutely.
What's amazing is seeing that actual physical evidence is, again, the geological
evidence.
I guess it's sort of geological and archeological at the same time, right?
Because they're carving into stone.
Right.
But seeing these carvings, the marks, and the fact that it's a perfect tube,
that they pulled
the cylinder out.
Yep.
Jamie, will you real quick bring up my YouTube page?
There's my second to most recent video.
There's a short clip in it where I show you these mainstream Egyptologists, Zahi
Was, Mark
Lehner, the top dogs.
Like, their names are cited in every textbook on these subjects.
And you will see these methods where they try, these primitive methods, and
they demonstrate.
Yeah, I've seen that.
It doesn't work at all.
At all.
Well, it's so unbelievably slow, it's not feasible to be the explanation.
And let me just say, the only reason why these are the suggested methods, Joe,
is because,
like, well, the Egyptians were a Bronze Age culture, so they had to use bronze,
and that's
the end of the story.
Yet, there's not one single depiction, Joe.
All right, so that one, where it says, this is how you know ancients.
All right, that one.
And just skip forward, perhaps.
Look at that handsome bastard.
So, here's an amazing photo of how close the cuts were, and about how precision
cut these
stone slabs that were used for the flooring are.
Compare that to my hotel room key.
That's right next.
That's right next.
That's flooring tile, casings, or stones, excuse me.
That's right next to the Great Pyramid.
Yeah.
All right, so, Jamie, if you go back, I believe it's the first, between the
first minute and
two minutes, actually, the clip is.
Where they're trying to recreate it?
Go forward a little bit more.
Look at that, by the way.
Look at that sucker.
30-ton stone.
And there's Ben, Uncharted X.
Love you.
There he is right there.
Hi, Ben.
Ditch the ponytail, buddy.
No, no, no, no.
Don't tell him to.
No, he's got to, I told you, he's got to bring that back.
He's got to keep growing his hair, and he needs to lay it out.
Keep going a little bit for Jamie.
Look at that stone with you standing in front of it.
That's incredible.
All right.
Yeah, yeah.
So, that one right there is at least 50 tons, and was brought from more than
500 miles away.
And look at the polygonal nature of it.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
That's rose granite.
What's listening to me is that they chose to cut it perfectly flat with no gap,
but yet uneven.
This is it.
In that they make these, like, interesting jigsaw puzzle-like shapes.
They're interlocked, totally earthquake-proof.
And so, Jamie, just go back a few more seconds.
Do you think that's why they carved it like that?
That's my best, yes.
And that's just showing off because how awesome it looks.
Look at this picture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, this is them.
This is, okay.
So, right there, that's the alleged method.
All right.
Go back a few more seconds.
Right there.
Right there.
I know.
It's because it's an 18-minute video.
All right.
Right there.
Press pause if you could.
So, this is a recreation of a glyph of a painting that once existed.
It was destroyed.
But, so, this is, Joe, quite literally the only example of them even doing
anything with
stone depicted.
There's one other stone or picture that's right next to it doing a statue.
But this, just to clarify, is not showing them cut a block.
And those are, I mean, this is-
Essentially, it's the measuring methods.
Yeah, well-
What do you think they're using in terms of, like, when those guys are on their
knees
and they have those things that are showing a line?
What do you think that is?
Is that, like, a level?
I think that they're doing measurements in order to put in hieroglyphs because
we know
they did.
There's actual evidence of them doing glyphs over prior work.
It's on some of the statues.
And so, it quite literally could just be showing them carved stuff into it
because I saw examples
where you have this wonderful stone and then these crude glyphs carved into it.
And I'm like, it's like Sesame Street.
One of these things is not like the other.
Why would the glyphs look like shit in comparison to a wonderful block?
And that's not to say all the glyphs look like shit.
Some are spectacular and were done by the Egyptians.
They are the dynastic Egyptians.
Let me just clarify to anyone listening.
Dynastic Egyptians are the so-called ancient Egyptians we all learned about in
school.
My argument and others' argument is that there was people before them doing
work.
And something worth mentioning, Joe, is that the people in Egypt, they believed
in what's
called Kemet, the people, K-H-E-M-I-T, the people that existed before the
Egyptians.
And, you know, when we'd hear these stories about the Great Pyramid being for a
tomb for
the pharaoh, it's worth mentioning that even the locals didn't believe that.
And those theories weren't developed until the latter part of the 1800s, early
1900s, by
people that, explorers that came in from Germany, France, and England.
And they are the ones.
So, just to clarify, the saying that the pyramids were built to be tombs for
the pharaohs,
that that was their purpose, wasn't even developed until 150 years ago.
That's it.
And they were learning, they were taught Kemet.
And so, you've seen the Pyramid Code, right?
Haven't I heard you say that a long time ago?
Yes.
So, that's on Netflix.
So, the tribal elder, Akeem Abdel Awiyan, that's in it, and he's the one
teaching Kemet.
So, he's talking about the people before the Egyptians.
And so, when I went to Egypt, I went and did a tour with one of his sons named
Yosef Awiyan,
and they live across the street from the Sphinx.
It's been passed down in the family.
They're on, like, the fifth floor, and it literally, their patio overlooks the
great, or excuse
me, the Sphinx.
And he's also a master stonemason.
But that's how I learned the stuff.
Like, they were taught, like, these theories that, like, oh, the pyramids were
tombs, that's
recent, and it was by invaders, so to speak.
Like, that's not something that was thought before that.
And the locals in Egypt-
So, how did that become doctrine?
How did it become what everybody teaches?
So, Egypt became Britain.
Like, this is what I'm saying.
Like, they have quite literally been invaded, and their entire government has
been overthrown
and redone so many times that we're even aware of.
So, it was already, I'm going to use the word corrupted, you know, in the 1800s.
The British were going in and out of there.
And so, it's like, this, all this, I call it the mainstream, the stuff you read
about
in the textbooks, with most of the documentaries, and all this stuff, which is
pyramids built
to be tombs.
This was all developed in modern times.
There's absolutely nothing from the ancient Egyptians in any type of glyph that
depicts,
well, there's only a couple examples of pyramids, but it's burial sites right
next to them.
It's very, excuse me, very primitive, and it's like, that's it.
There's nothing else showing anything about it.
There's nothing depicting that pharaohs, or this is the place where they were
burying kings.
And it's worth mentioning that when you go through inside these pyramids of Giza,
let's
say, which are the most impressive, although the Red Pyramid and that pyramid
are unbelievably
impressive, there's not one single glyph in any of them whatsoever.
There was never a mummy found in any Egyptian pyramid ever.
Now, that doesn't mean they weren't stolen and looted.
That's possible.
But quite literally, the only reason why we are told this stuff is because that
was the
theory developed by these men that went in there, you know, in the late 1800s
and said,
I believe these must have been for the pharaohs.
That makes sense.
So, there's no hieroglyphs that depict it as the place where...
Zero.
Zero.
So, it's all just one group of people had one theory and that theory just stuck
around.
One hundred percent.
And this is the stuff like, they didn't teach me that in school, Joe.
I didn't ever heard any of this.
I was told these were built to be tombs for the pharaohs.
How much did you learn about Egypt in school?
Not much, because it's like hardly...
It's like sixth grade, right?
Yeah, it's not something they teach a lot.
Well, right.
If you want to really study it, you really have to get...
I mean, it's an incredibly complicated subject.
Right.
But, all right.
So, people that go to school for this, that learn history and archaeology and
the ones that
are taught about Egyptology, that's what they're taught.
And not only that, there was a violent reaction to the Robert Shock podcast
that I had by some
Egyptologists that, you know, mocked him and reached out and said they wanted
to come on
and refute what he was saying.
And it was interesting to watch their reaction to a geologist talking about
erosion.
So, one thing I explained to people is that there's something happening and has
been happening in
the scientific and academic community that's the same thing we see in politics,
Joe.
It's a tribalism.
It's no different than religion.
You were taught something.
You believe it.
Not just that.
You're teaching it.
Oh, yeah.
The big one is the teaching.
It's not you were taught.
Because I think when people have been taught things, they're willing to adjust.
But when they've spent decades as the expert explaining very carefully how it
happened and
what we know and celebrating all these people that have done this great work
and shown us,
you know, how these ancients did these things, then it turns out that they're
completely wrong.
Well, you've been fucking kids over with shitty education for decades.
You don't want to admit it.
Being wrong sucks.
Nobody likes being wrong.
But the thing about history is like, of course you're going to be wrong.
I mean, what they should do is they should say, this is what we thought.
So for years we were teaching this because that's what, as far as we knew, that
was correct.
Now we know differently.
And this is what's amazing about archaeology.
This is what's amazing about history.
But they don't want to do that.
Well, now.
Because then they would have to get rid of those books.
Well, it's not just that show.
All right.
So they'd have to get rid of the books.
But there's other implications too, which is money.
Scientists and a lot of these people are making big bucks writing textbooks,
handing out
degrees, doing documentary opportunities, all kinds of stuff.
So they've made a complete livelihood on something that is, let's say,
partially incorrect.
I'm not saying they're wrong about everything.
Right.
But like, so the implications that it's like, there's big money around.
Some of these people are making, they have done very well for themselves.
And so to be wrong, it's like, oh, shit.
People don't like being wrong about anything.
In fact, no.
Yeah, it's a weird part about being a person is that we connect our ideas with
our value
as a person.
Yeah.
You know, this goes back.
I like to make the comparison too, to Galileo.
They were going to torture him to death.
He had actual definitive evidence that we were rotating around the sun and not
the other
way around.
And they were like, no, no.
And they're going to, Joe, they put him on house arrest.
He had to recant everything or else.
And I'm like.
That's a religious thing, though.
That's the same reason why these morons broke down those ancient structures in
Iraq.
When you look at the overall abundance of evidence when it comes to Egypt and
you factor in these
people like Graham Hancock and Buval and all these people that have looked at
the history
of the structures, it seems like there's multiple kingdoms and multiple eras
and that they had
existed for a substantial amount of time.
And why was it all in that one place?
That's what's amazing.
And when you say that these multiple kingdoms, so that's the story of Egypt.
They call it the Old Kingdom, which was followed by the Intermediate Period.
So Intermediate Period is essentially lost history.
That was an uprising.
It was complete overthrow of the government.
And you're talking the first intermediate was, like I said earlier, 126 years.
Then they go by a few more hundred years.
And then there was another 200 something year gap in that transition.
So we were talking Old Kingdom, Intermediate Period, Middle Kingdom, Intermediate
Period,
and then New Kingdom.
So that's my point that I'm going back to is that how can we possibly say
definitively or
they talk so definitively about, say, the Old Kingdom.
And I'm like, when two other kingdoms came after who could have wiped out that
history or
simply because it's thousands of years later passed out incorrect information.
Here's a mind blower for people.
The amount of time between Cleopatra and the iPhone is shorter than the amount
of time between
Cleopatra and the construction, the established construction date of 2500 BC of
the Great Pyramids.
It's wild, huh?
It's wild.
Like, Cleopatra lived closer to the iPhone than she did to the construction of
the pyramids.
I wish I could go back in time and date Cleopatra.
You'd go out with her?
Is that what you're saying?
When you?
No, she's probably gross.
She probably didn't shave.
The legends are that she was...
That she was...
For then.
Her looks were just okay, but her personality is what seduced everyone.
Oh, she had a great personality.
Yeah, well, she seduced Caesar and then Mark Antony.
Like, she was going for the top dogs and they...
You should look...
Like, some of the history behind it is wild in that they...
Like, she seduced these men and threw them off their path and everything.
Like, she knew what she was doing, Joe.
Well, maybe she was awesome.
My point is the last thing I'd be interested in is going back there and having
sex with somebody.
I would want to go back and see what the fuck they were doing.
Like, what was life like back then?
Like, what was ancient Egypt like?
Like, what was it really, truly like?
There's only speculation.
We really don't have any idea.
We don't have any idea what their...
If you want to go back to as far as Robert Shock and Graham Hancock want to
indicate,
they seem to point to a time where at least the construction of the Temple of
the Sphinx,
we're talking 10, 11, 12,000 years ago.
What the fuck was that like?
And when it was green, because I can show you other sources that say 4,500
years.
I'm talking about the Sahara being green.
Jamie, if you wouldn't mind, could you just Google Sahara green?
Sahara.
Yeah, Sahara.
Sahara?
What was I saying?
Sahara.
Sahara?
Sounded like you're saying Sahara.
Sahara being green.
And you'll see these articles.
Like, so the point is that like, okay, so when you say it'd be completely
different.
Well, if the Sphinx is, say, at least double the age, and I'm sure it's older,
well, that's
mean it was when it was green, because let's not forget, Egypt is in the Sahara
desert.
Right.
So when I see dates like 5,000 years, and they do say some of these estimates
that the entire Sahara went from green to desert and possibly within 100 years.
So, and this is around 5,000 years ago that it went over the shift?
Yes.
And I'm like, that is so close, Joe, to these dates of the Giza pyramids.
Right.
That makes me think that because of cataclysm and, let's say, real climate
change on a level that we don't even wrap our minds around.
I mean, think about it.
North Africa, or the Sahara, is much larger than the contiguous, or the 50
states, the United States.
So it's like, you know, it's such a huge area, and to think that something
could have changed so dramatically, and what would have been erased with it,
you know?
If you find, I was just looking for an article just to show viewers, like, I
know there's live science as a number, and the Smithsonian, and National Geographic,
and, oh, I was just, yeah, so this is, there you go.
I was trying to find visuals.
Oh, right on.
There's not a ton, but.
So the Sahara was green at somewhere around 5,000 years ago, which is roughly
around the same time as the proposed construction date of the Great Pyramid,
which is 4,500 years ago, right?
Yeah, 4,600, so yeah, right around there, and each one is supposed to, yeah.
And carbon dating is a plus or minus of a few hundred years, either way, right?
So it could have been around that.
There's a margin of error, and I'm like, it's not like they have an abundance,
I mean, don't quote me here, but they don't have an overwhelming, substantial
amount of evidence that they've repeatedly tested those dates on all this
organic matter.
Have you looked into it?
Do you know how much they did test?
I thought it was one little thing, if I remember.
I thought it was a little piece of wood or whatever it was.
It's like, aha, aha, here it is.
Let's Google that.
Yeah.
Let's find out how, what did they test?
Oh, yeah, I was getting into that.
Yeah, what did they test to date the construction of the pyramids?
I started finding something about a piece of a boat I think they thought they'd
found.
Oh, that's an...
Well, you know, it's just amazing.
It really is amazing, and it's hard for us to imagine.
I think it's hard for us to imagine 1,000 years.
I think we kind of get it.
Oh, 1,000 is 1,000s.
I think we kind of get it.
But I think it's one of those things that gets lost in the mind of how actually,
how long that is in terms of, like, if you were alive for 1,000 years.
Like, fucking, what a dreary amount of time that is.
I know.
And then you think of 4,500 years ago or whatever it was when they were
actually building that thing, and maybe it's much, much longer.
I mean, maybe you're right, and maybe the construction, maybe rather the
measurement is of a very small piece of material.
Maybe they don't have the evidence that could show what it really was.
This is an interview on NOVA, on PBS, and I don't know the exact date of this
interview, but this is where he talks about...
Okay, right here, it says, "When it comes to carbon dating, do you need organic
material?"
And Lehrer says, "Right."
There has been radiocarbon dating or carbon-14 dating done in Egypt, obviously
before we did our studies, and it's been done on some material from Giza, for
example, the great boat that was found just south of the Great Pyramid, which
you think belongs to Khufu.
And that was radiocarbon dated coming in at about 2600 BC.
See, this is what I mean.
That doesn't prove jack shit for the age of the Great Pyramid being built.
So let's keep going, 'cause it says...
NOVA says, "But how do you carbon date the pyramids themselves and they're made
out of stone and inorganic material?"
And Lerner says, "We had the idea some years back to radiocarbon date the pyramids
directly.
As you say, you need organic material in order to do carbon-14 dating because
all living creatures, every living thing, takes in carbon-14 during its
lifetime and stops taking in carbon-14 when it dies.
And then the carbon-14 starts breaking down at a regular rate.
So, in effect, you're counting the carbon-14 in an organic specimen.
And by virtue of the rate of the disintegration of the carbon-14 atoms and the
amount of carbon-14 in a sample, you can show how old it is.
So how do you date the pyramids?
Because they're made out of stone and mortar.
Well, in the 1980s, when I was crawling around on the pyramids, as I used to do
and I still do,
I noticed that contrary to what many guides tell people, even the stones of the
Great Pyramid of Khufu are put together with great quantities of mortar."
We're looking, you see, at the core.
A pyramid is basically, most basically, two separate constructions.
It's an outer shell of very fine polished limestone with great accuracy in its
joints, but most of that's missing.
And the other construction is in the inner core, which is filled in this shell.
Since most of the outer casing is missing, what you see now is the step-like
structure of the core.
The core was made with a substantial slop factor, as my friend who's a mechanic
likes to say about certain automobiles.
That is, they didn't join the stones very accurately.
You see the great spaces between the stones and you can actually see where the
men were up there and they didn't, you know,
they may have like four or five, even six inches between two stones.
And they jammed down pebbles and cobbles and some broken stones and slop big
quantities of gypsum mortar in there.
I noticed that in the interstices, how do you say that?
That's a weird word.
Interstices?
Interstices?
Yeah, I don't know.
Between the stones and this mortar was embedded organic material like charcoal,
probably from the fire they used to heat the gypsum in order to make the mortar.
You have to heat raw gypsum in order to dehydrate it, and then you rehydrate it
in order to make the mortar, like with modern cement.
So it occurred to me that we could take the small samples, we could radiocarbon
date them, not with conventional radiocarbon dating,
but recently there's been a development in carbon-14 dating where they use
atomic accelerators to count the disintegration rate of the carbon-14 atoms,
atom by atom.
So you can date extraordinarily small samples.
So we set up a program to do that, and it involved us climbing all over the Old
Kingdom pyramids, including the ones at Giza,
taking as much in the way of organic samples as we could.
We weren't damaging the pyramids because there's tiny flecks.
It's a very strange experience to be crawling over a monument as big as Khufu's,
looking for a bit of charcoal that might be as big as a fingernail on your
small finger.
We noted not only the samples of charcoal, sometimes there was reed.
And now and then, in some of the pyramids, we found little bits of wood.
But we saw in many places, even on the giant pyramids of Giza, the first pyramids
and the second pyramid and the third one,
fragments of tools, bits of pottery that are clearly characteristic of the Old
Kingdom.
And it occurred to us, you know, that these are not just objects.
These, the pyramids themselves, were archeological sites during the time they
were being built.
If it took 20 years to build them, how the fuck did they build that in 20 years?
And now begin to think that Khufu may have reigned during double the length of
the time that we traditionally assigned them.
People were building the Great Pyramid over three decades.
It was occupied, it was an occupied site as long as some campsites that hunters
and gatherers occupied that archeologists dig out in the desert.
Okay, we're getting really long on this.
Do you feel, yeah, what is your impression right now when you're reading this?
Well, I'm thinking they're basing this on what was in the cracks of these pyramids
that they could find.
It doesn't necessarily mean that that's how it was initially built.
Right.
It could really mean, first of all, the reason why there is these great gaps
and that they could see these great gaps in the core is because they stole the
structure on the outside of it.
The limestone, the smooth polished limestone was stolen.
They raided these motherfuckers throughout history, you know, like these people
that destroy the stuff in Iraq.
The pyramids used to be covered in smooth limestone, but they jacked all that
stuff, they stole it and they used it to build Cairo.
It's wild that there's buildings throughout Cairo that are made out of the
pyramids.
No.
It's crazy.
Hey, here's something else worth bringing up though, Jamie, if you wouldn't
mind, if you could like find it in the news articles.
This is just a year old where they found, so there was pieces of wood that were
taken out of behind a block inside the great pyramid.
And this thing stayed in some, lost in a England museum for the last more than
a century.
But they just recently found it and dated that wood and it's more than 500
years older than the alleged date of that great pyramid.
So now that doesn't prove that the pyramid is older.
And this is assuming that it was indeed, I mean, this is documented.
So, all right, so here we go.
Yep.
Great pyramid, lost Egyptian artifact found in an Aberdeen cigar box.
So a long lost Egyptian artifact has been found in a cigar box in Aberdeen and
it's hoped it could shed new light on the great pyramid.
So a small fragment of the 5,000 year old wood, which is now in several pieces
is said to be highly significant.
So here's something else that's pretty crazy to think about when it comes to
dating.
What I had read, I don't know if it was this article or another one, but they
had a margin of error within closer to 800 years for this wood.
So I'm like, wait a second.
So you're saying it could be closer to 6,000 years old?
Yeah.
They don't even know.
And that's okay.
But isn't that 800 forward as well?
Yeah.
So it could be 4,200.
Yeah.
So it doesn't prove anything.
And there's some other explanations.
I read, like they said, like, well, maybe because wood was more scarce out
there that maybe this wood was already 500 years old when it was used for the
construction of the pyramid, which I have doubts on that, Joe.
500 year old piece of wood being used to construct the pyramid.
I don't know about that.
But, you know, who knows?
All I know is that it could possibly be indicative of that it was older.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
Picture with it that shows the outside of the pyramid like you were just
talking about.
Yeah.
See, that's what it used to look like.
And so they fucked all that up when they were stealing the outside stones.
So the outside limestone.
So who knows what they did in terms of patching it up.
Right.
And it's worth mentioning that some of the theories it's believed that maybe
there was a large earthquake that originally knocked them all down and then
they were looted from there.
But I don't know.
You were talking about Rome, Joe.
I've never heard you mention the pyramid there.
Have you?
Did you see it when you were there?
No.
Or did you know there was one there?
Because when you're talking about restoration of a pyramid, I stumbled across
this pyramid in Rome that they restored within the last couple of years that
didn't look this clean.
Try to find it.
There's an older picture of it.
Leave it alone, you fucking apes.
I know.
Yeah.
People will say, we need to preserve it and rebuild it to preserve it.
I'm like, no, show me as it is.
Yeah.
Why would they preserve that?
God damn Italians.
I think some people just want to put their hands on stuff, Joe.
Yeah.
They definitely do.
We're going to clean it.
Wow.
You're making it nice.
It looked kind of dirty.
Oh, they just cleaned it.
Yeah.
They just cleaned it.
But I mean, leave it dirty, man.
Jesus Christ.
That dirt is part of the charm.
Yeah.
It's part of what makes it look fucking amazing.
Yeah.
So this pyramid is how old?
2000 years, it says.
Whoa.
Pretty interesting.
So not only did they raid Egypt, they went home and wanted to build a pyramid
themselves.
Yeah.
A little shitty one.
Yeah.
It's way smaller.
It's tiny.
Easy to miss.
That's why I thought you missed it.
Yeah.
I don't think I saw it.
You know, the Great Pyramid.
I don't believe I saw it.
It's fucking beautiful though.
The Great Pyramid at its height was equivalent to a 47 story building today.
And I compare that to, so I'm from Phoenix and the Chase Tower is the tallest
building in
Arizona.
And it's almost, it's within a couple of feet of the same height, like 481 feet,
original
height for the Great Pyramid, almost the same as Chase Tower.
So when you're in a skyline in different, you know, places throughout the world,
and look,
you know, a 50 story building stands out.
And this thing is 755 feet wide at its base.
It's a freaking behemoth.
I used to have a bit about the construction of the pyramids.
And it was basically that what happened was the dumb people outfucked the smart
people.
And that's why like the people that were left behind had no idea how it was
built.
And they just said, Oh, we built this.
But if you, but one of the things that I pointed out, I'm pretty sure my math
is wonky, but it's
close that the Great Pyramid of Giza has 2,300,000 stones.
The precision cut, again, some of them like the King's Chamber ones from 500
miles away.
If you cut in place 10 stones a day, it would take you 664 years to make that
pyramid.
And they think this guy made it in 20 years.
Yeah.
And they would have to do something, because estimates vary, because it depends
how many
hours a day they're working.
But it's literally one stone.
You'd have to do one stone approximately every four minutes to make that happen.
And so did you hear what they just said in that prior article where like Khufu?
Well, maybe his reign was double what we thought.
So Joe, they're 40 year reign.
They don't even know.
And it validates the point I'm making, which is that because of all the list,
lost history
since then, like how they, they don't need, what's that based off of?
Yeah.
And it's okay to not know something, but the reality is that they just don't
know.
So much guesswork.
It's so fascinating.
It's fun.
That's why I like these topics.
I do.
I love these topics.
I, but I really love is that there was this one place that was so much more
advanced than
everywhere else.
This one part of Africa where civilization had reached this incredible level,
like their construction
methods, the sophistication in, as far as the alignment to constellations.
I mean, and some of it is, it's speculative, you know, when they talk about
like the, the
equinoxes and, you know, Graham Hancock points to where the, the Sphinx is
facing the constellation
Leo, um, that that wasn't, it was like 10,500 BC that that was happening, that,
that they,
they think that the Sphinx was facing the constellation Leo.
Well, this procession of the equinoxes, which is a wobble of the earth.
That is a, I think it's a 25,000 year wobble.
Yeah.
Closer to 20, it's like 25,920 year.
I call it the great year.
Okay.
Great.
Thank you.
So this wobble, if you take that to when those, the Sphinx would be looking at
Leo previously,
now you're talking about 35,000 years ago.
Which is wild.
Which is the, the mind fuck of mind fucks.
Like if that is the old, like if you look at the distinct fissures that if they
really
were, if Robert Chalk is correct and these geologists are correct, and that
really is the
result of thousands and thousands of years of water erosion.
Like, okay, how many thousand?
Is it five?
Is it 10?
Is it 20?
Are you talking, are you looking at 25,000 years of water erosion?
Like what, is that a 35,000 year old structure?
Is it possible?
And people will scoff at this, but we were scoffing at 15,000 years ago, just a
little
while ago, just a few decades ago until Gobekli Tepe came around and you have
clear definitive
evidence of something that's at least 12,000 years old.
That was nonsense just a few years ago.
Yep.
In the nineties, it was nonsense.
Yep.
But now we know 100% that's a fact.
What the fuck were they doing 20 years prior to that?
Right.
And if this is really 35,000 years old or whatever it is, like my God, like how
long has civilization
been around and how many times has it been reset?
When you talk about this Younger Dryas impact theory, especially when you talk
about it with
Randall Carlson, it opens up a whole world of speculation because Randall Carlson's
evidence
is spectacular, well-researched, and he has a deep, deep knowledge of both the
timeline and
the erosion to the landscape that occurred in spectacular fashion because of
massive floods.
when then you look at these legends like Noah's Ark or the Epic of Gilgamesh
and you hear about
these stories of floods and of cataclysms, it's something that is a core part
of almost every
ancient civilization's lore.
When they talk about the history of their culture, they talk about these cataclysmic
events that
reshaped the society and that people emerged from the darkness and restarted
the world.
You know, like Noah and his children.
Do you want to hear something that's crazy that goes along with that?
Yes, I do, Jimmy.
You bet.
All right.
So the CIA, this is decades ago, in the '50s, discussed something called the
Adam and Eve
story.
So anyone can go to CIA.gov, go to Freedom of Information Library, and you can
look up what's
called the Adam and Eve story written by a doctor named Chan Thomas back in the
'50s.
And this details the destruction, repeated destruction of mankind, and it even
has the
year 11,500 in it.
And it's worth, or 11,550, and keep in mind, this was written more than 50
years ago.
So it coincides with 11,600 timeframe, decades before we were talking about A
Younger Dryas
Possibility.
Where's this, what's this based on?
So, well, that's a great, that's part of the mystery, Joe.
Now, this, and let me also say this, what's the declassified, this is like a
handful of
years ago, they declassified that, so we have no understanding, though, what's
not declassified
is why the CIA was discussing this book in some top secret meeting, although
every meeting
in the CIA is technically top secret.
Everything they do is top secret.
But, so it details that destructions.
So it basically says that there's a micro nova that goes off in the earth
routinely.
And what it does is...
A micro nova.
Essentially that there's a, a quite literal fusion explosion that the earth
essentially,
it's like a hiccup, and it causes continental displacement.
It causes rapid movement of continents, as well as continental sized tidal
waves that just
wash everything away.
And that's, that says why there's no evidence for any of it left over, because
it quite literally
wiped a vast portion of the earth clean.
Now I'm not...
So this was a theory from 50 years ago?
Correct.
That the CIA was putting around?
Yes.
Was there any scientific backing of this?
Yes.
So what's it, alright, so the, you know what they cite in there?
Is those woolly mammoths that were died off in mass quantities and still had
food in their
mouths?
Yeah.
That's, Joe, that's in there.
I remember hearing, I don't know if it was you or...
That's Randall Carlson.
Yes.
Yeah.
So this book was written in, I think, 1957.
It was classified in 1963.
Not the book.
Classified.
Well, hold on, let me rephrase.
The book was not classified.
The CIA discussed it, and that was classified.
So this book was pretty much little known.
But if you literally Google, or you could bring it...
Well, it used to come up at the top of Google, but now you got to go to DuckDuckGo.
Or you can go to CIA.gov.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
When you see how Google curates information, when you go to Google things?
Just type Bright Insight.
Jimmy no longer comes up on there, and they see a few pages in.
I'm offended.
Why do you think they're hiding you?
Are they scared that you're going to tell the truth?
It's probably related for...
What's that?
When I'm looking up this book, there's also a claim that Jesus was a genius
from India
and was abducted by...
Vishnu.
...two angels.
Nah, I don't know if that's written in there, but what it does say is that
Jesus,
Osiris, and Vishnu were all the same person.
It says that these stories passed down...
Yeah, no, no.
You...
I just was looking...
Another section of the book, Thomas also claims that Jesus was abducted by
aliens.
That's not in there.
That's not in there.
That's not...
No, I've read the entire document.
Jamie, will you just go...
Hold on.
Where is this coming from?
Is this a Daily Star?
Yeah, a Daily Star.
Disinformation.
It's not true.
No, listen, I'm not...
I'm mad at you, Jamie.
You know I love you.
I know.
In the description of the book, Thomas also claims that Jesus was abducted by
aliens on
Easter Sunday.
Oh God, that's so silly.
It doesn't.
It says the two angels came to earth in their space vehicle to take care of the
aftermath
of Jesus' crucifixion.
And then it goes on to say, this sounds like someone was just having fun
releasing a Daily
Star.
Daily Star is...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
It's like a tabloid.
Yeah, tabloid, yeah.
It's like the Inquirer.
You can see me running that site.
It's Bob's website.
It's no different.
They just call it the Daily Star.
I could be like the Daily whatever and then just make my own thing.
But if you go to the document itself, that's not in there.
I read the damn thing.
I made a whole video on it.
It's pretty interesting, Joe, because it lists a lot of other cataclysmic
events and
it's saying that this is the reason why we don't have understanding.
And it even cites the Great Pyramid of Giza as being, quote, an enigma.
And I like that because it is an enigma.
Let's pause right here because I've got to pee.
Okay, let's do it.
So let's talk about this.
When we come back, we'll talk about this Adam and Eve thing.
Adam and Eve story.
Right on.
Classified by the CIA.
We'll be right back.
Thank you.
And we're back.
I had to pee.
I was holding it as much as I can, but I drank a lot of water today,
unfortunately.
I was holding it as well, so that was lovely.
Yeah, it's a weird thing.
You're trying to concentrate, but you also have to pee.
It's not good.
Sometimes it's better to just pee.
So this CIA thing about Adam and Eve, what was the purpose behind this?
Like, why did they publish this?
So just to clarify, they did not publish it.
Some doctor named Chan Thomas, who's a mysterious figure in itself because it's
hard to find a lot of info.
Although, keep in mind, this is back in the 50s, so it's hard to find info.
So he published it?
He published it.
And then, for unknown reasons, the Central Intelligence Agency discussed it in
a meeting and classified that meeting.
Although, let me just clarify, everything the CIA does is technically
classified.
A lunch meeting, nothing's available to the public.
But then, it was kept secret for decades up until, I want to say it was 2012 or
2013, it was desanitized and released.
And so the big question for me is, why were they discussing it?
And the fact that there's certain details in it that are corroborated by
scientific evidence that we've gathered in the last couple decades.
Say, for example, that 11,600-year younger Dryas, and essentially, I mean, so
to me, I'm like, this is, it's highly fascinating.
What's that about?
I'd like to know why they were chatting about it, and I'd like to know what
their conclusions were.
None of that's available to the public.
They declassified this with absolutely no context whatsoever.
Hmm.
Same thing with the Rishat structure.
They studied that as well.
They did covert surveillance back in the '60s.
They flew over it in a million different directions.
And you can find that on CIA.gov.
I made a video about this earlier this year.
It was like a follow-up to the Rishat Atlantis theory, where I gave a more
compelling argument.
And what was so interesting about this, Joe, is that there's a huge part of it,
a page and a half that's redacted, and it's the entire context.
It says, although the information from the scientific study will be available
to worldwide scientific community, totally blank after that.
I could show you a screenshot of it.
Did they have a premise, like, why they were going and studying it?
Yes.
They were looking for geo-magnetic or, excuse me, geo-electric or geo-anomalies.
And so it was one of, like, 12 or 13 sites or 15 that were from around the
world they studied.
So it wasn't just that one.
But, Joe, what's so interesting about it is that Atlantis was said to have had
special properties.
It had springs of water that were warm and cold, and it was said to be special
according to the Poseidon who had created it.
But what's interesting about this, Joe, is not just the fact they studied it,
but the fact that there's the entire context of it is still classified to this
day.
Now, let me be clear, nothing in that document says anything about ancient
history or Atlantis, nothing like that.
But this site was studied.
We already discussed how unusual it is.
Neither one of us had heard about it until recently.
And if there's one comment that stuck out that had thousands of comments on
these videos, like, how have I never heard of this wrist shot structure before?
And if you were to, Jamie, if you were to bring up my video for May of this
year, and there's a certain part of it that shows a screenshot of this part
that's redacted, I want you to see this, Joe.
Because it's the entire context of the scientific study itself is classified
today.
And this is from what year?
I want to say 1963.
I got to double check.
I sometimes mix up my dates.
But yeah, that time frame.
Maybe it says, by the way, we killed Kennedy.
Probably.
It's in there.
I'm looking on the CIA's website as I was trying to find your thing, but this
is kind of interesting.
I feel like it does talk about how it's declassified in part, but a sanitized
copy has been approved for release.
Yeah.
So that's the Adam and Eve story.
Just to clarify, he's referring to Adam and Eve story, not the wrist shot
structure.
Two different things.
Wow.
This is on the website for the CIA's reading.
Sanitized copy.
Yeah.
Do you want to click on that PDF?
Just to.
I was already trying.
It's hard to look through.
I mean.
Right.
But I meant just so you see what it looks like.
Just for.
How weird is that?
That the CIA had a fuck.
What?
Whoa, back up.
What the fuck is that?
Cross section of earth?
They're saying that the internal, the whole premise of this thing is that the
earth, that something
happens inside the earth routinely.
Periodically, right?
Yep.
They say it's where the legends of Noah's flood comes from.
They.
Oh, so this was what they were throwing around before the Younger Dryas impact
theory.
Yes.
Now scroll down, skip these pages real quick because these are, these are
unrelated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, all right, right there.
Hold on.
Go up a couple.
Sorry.
Yeah.
All right.
Right there.
Like Noah's flood, like Adam and Eve's story.
This too will come to pass.
Now this is just like the opening to it.
Well, look at this.
In California, the mountains shake like ferns in a breeze, the mighty Pacific
rears back
and piles up into the, a mountain of water more than two miles high.
Then starts its race eastward with the force of a thousand armies.
The wind attacks, ripping, shredding everything and its supersonic bombardment.
The unbelievable mountain of the Pacific seawater follows the wind eastward burying
Los Angeles
and San Francisco as if they were but grains of sand.
So this is written as a story and something else worth mentioning is that it
says that that happened
because, because of this event, the earth essentially stands still for a moment,
which causes the wind and the forces of momentum to continue to go at an
unprecedented.
What a weird theory.
It's crazy.
And I'm not saying it's necessarily true.
No.
But what's interesting is that it's talking about destruction of mankind.
Yeah.
And it's very specifically says this is the reason why we don't know our
ancient past.
And I find it interesting that the Central Intelligence Agency was discussing
this.
Well, they probably had some sort of inkling that some of the stories from
ancient civilizations
about cataclysmic disasters probably had some merit to them.
Right.
They're trying to protect us or at least protect the president.
Put them in a bunker.
Yeah.
You want to hear something fun I'm going to do?
I was going to keep it to myself, but I keep pushing it off.
So maybe the internet will help us do it.
I want to fight.
Well, I've already looked into it briefly and it was really complicated because
it's hard.
It doesn't fall into any of their categories.
But I want to do a Freedom of Information Act request on the Great Pyramid of Giza.
I want to see if the CIA has ever or any of the intelligence communities or
have ever even just looked into it.
Because to me, I'm like, if if if that thing was more than just a tomb for the
Pharaohs, it seems to me that the true powers that be that have unlimited
resources would study and have a theory of it in themselves.
And so I want to see if they've ever looked into it at all.
Isn't that a good idea?
Yeah, it's a good idea.
Internet, let's do it because I went on to submit it and it's like there's a
bunch of categories you could submit and nothing applied.
So I'm like, I need to talk to somebody to figure out because Freedom of
Information Act requests are free.
Anyone can do it.
We have a right to do it.
Yeah.
The only thing you pay for is if you want them to print out pages and it's like
that's cheap as hell.
It's like it's not even a factor.
So this there if you have a story about this idea that the Earth has some sort
of a Nova effect and things explode and the Earth stands.
If they were thinking that they had to.
And if they were looking at the Richard structure, they had to be looking at
the pyramids, too.
They had to try to figure out what the hell what the hell's going on there.
Wouldn't you think?
I would.
I would think so.
If I put this way, if I was running the CIA, I'd be looking at all kinds of
crazy stuff, too.
And that would be one of them.
Yeah, no doubt.
No doubt.
I'm really interested in this whole Adam and Eve thing.
So they think that this happened and that civilization got brought down to its
knees and brought to a small amount of people.
Well, they were kind of right, right?
Like if you think about super volcanoes, like those do happen.
And if they really did think that that was some sort of a volcano, that the
Richard structure was some sort of a volcano that had erupted and cooled and
erupted and cooled.
And if there was some sort of volcanic activity that was still going on under
the surface, that would account for the idea that Atlantis was saying there was
water that was cool and also water that was hot in the same area.
It's like you get in Yellowstone, right?
Yeah.
Like you get these cool lakes, but then you also get like Old Faithful, these
geysers of hot water.
And these, I mean, there's these ponds that people have fallen into and never
seen again because they get melted.
Yeah, I think it makes it even more compelling.
Now, some people will say like, well, it's a natural formation, so it can't be
because as Plato describes it is that it was created by Poseidon.
I'm like Poseidon can mean Earth.
It was created by God or just universe.
So to me, I'm like in the fact of its very size that Atlantis was described at,
I'm like it would make far more sense that it was a geological formation
because that's what we do today.
We build on geological formations all the time.
Have you been to Yellowstone?
I actually haven't, which is a real shame because I lived in Boise, Idaho.
Pretty close, yeah.
Yeah.
It's wild.
It's really interesting.
First of all, it's kind of bizarre because the animals are, they're like, they
have no fear of people because they've been sort of habitualized.
So like you go by, especially because they've released wolves into Yellowstone
years ago.
So the elk have decided it's a smart thing to go around where the people are
all the time.
So if you go near like this visitor center, there's like, there's a photo that
I took.
I think I put it on Instagram.
It's me taking a selfie next to a soda machine.
And behind me is a whole herd of elk just hanging out like, ah.
I might not have put it on this.
I'm not, I'm not sure if I did, but these elk are like basically like town deer.
You ever been around town, like Colorado?
If you go to like Evergreen, Colorado, there's a mule deer that just wander
through the town.
Yeah.
And some of them are fucking these massive, like trophy mule deer.
Like if you were in the mountains and you were hunting, that would be a deer
that you would be like stoked, a deer of a lifetime.
And then they're just wandering down Main Street in Evergreen because they know
that people are not dangerous there.
That people basically go, oh, look at you.
And they give them food and they take pictures of them.
So all the animals in Yellowstone have been habitualized.
So when you walk around there, I mean, that's why people always get launched in
the air by buffalo.
These fucking knuckleheads.
They think that it's okay to get close to the bisons and they fucking.
I love those videos, Joe.
These people get knocked.
I don't want to see anyone get killed, but these people are so dumb.
And it's always a recurring theme where they're so unathletic.
Sad.
I'm like, you can't even run away from this thing.
You're done.
Nobody can.
No.
You can't.
You ain't running away from a bison.
But there's the saddest one.
This little nine-year-old girl got launched into the air.
I'm like, oh my God.
Like you let your nine-year-old get that close to a bison, you fucking idiot.
Yep.
But my point is, the rest of Yellowstone is absolutely fascinating because
there's this
weird smell that comes out of all these geological formations because they're
basically, what you're
looking at is a caldera volcano.
It's an immense volcano that's happening right now.
It's underneath the surface.
There's all this volcanic activity.
And every six to eight hundred thousand years, it erupts.
And when it does, it's a continent killer.
I mean, if it does erupt, we are fucked.
This whole country is fucked.
Everybody on this country is essentially dead.
If you want to live, you better get to New Zealand and pronto.
Because everybody living here is a goner.
It blows.
And when it blows, it kills everything.
And it happens every six to eight hundred thousand years.
And the last time it happened was six hundred thousand years ago.
And even if you survive the initial, you know, eruption, the ash that's going
to cover thousands
of miles away, feet deep, like that's going to, your car, everything, you're
going to be,
it's going to destroy the water.
It's going to turn into acid.
It's going to, even if you survive the initial eruption, you're still fucked.
Yeah.
And then you live in nuclear winter because the sky is going to be covered in
ash
and no sunlight will get through.
No food will grow.
Well, they believe that, God, I keep forgetting where this happened.
Um, but somewhere around 70,000 years ago, they believe that civilization got
brought down
to just a few thousand people by a super volcano that happened in some island
somewhere.
Toba.
The Toba super eruption of 72,000 years, I believe.
Is that what it was?
T-O-B-A.
Where's that near?
What's that near that we'll call it today?
Uh, I thought that was...
Some islands.
Like, isn't that east of Africa, am I thinking?
Or is it Polynesia down there in the, um...
I want to say it's down there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's South Pacific?
I don't remember.
I don't remember.
I'm trying to remember.
It's at the tip of my tongue, but I can't recall it.
But wherever this was, they're really pretty sure, and I think this is based on
genetic evidence,
that at some point in time, civilization got brought down to like 6,000 or 7,000
people.
I've heard this.
Which is wild.
It is.
And it's pretty scary.
Um, and you know the thing is, Joe, so here we are talking about cataclysmic
events,
and it's like, so, like, there's plenty of people that are into this topic.
It's fun.
But a vast majority of people walking down don't even want to hear about it.
I think it scares people, even like the scientific community, because...
Is it the Fiji Islands?
Indonesia.
Indonesia.
There it is.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Lake Toba.
So this super volcano, massive volcanic crater, lake amid tranquil mountain
scenery, nearby amenities,
like restaurants.
They have restaurants.
Is there any all-inclusives there?
Bring it up, Jeremy.
Yeah, you can go there and stay in a nice resort and get a massage.
And it's right where civilization almost died, and it almost killed off
everybody.
I mean, 7,000 people is not much.
Especially when you think about how many predators were around.
That could have been the end of us.
Yeah.
Especially 60,000, 70,000 years ago, when you're basically hunting with these
things,
like this arrowhead.
How old is that?
Is that a legit...
Yeah, it's legit.
It's a legit one from Texas.
I don't know how old it is.
I would imagine it's hundreds of years old.
May I touch it just to feel it?
Yeah, yeah, it's real.
Thank you, Joe.
It's a real arrowhead.
That was on a real arrow that hopefully somebody got their dinner with.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
I mean, really elegantly constructed.
I'm doing a little bit of research on that book, the Adam and Eve story.
Apparently, a lot of people do have a copy of it.
Yes.
Let me clarify.
It was not...
The book itself was not classified.
Correct.
Yes.
And they do have the missing version of it, and I don't know that I can see
that they've
found anything strange.
Oh, in the redacted pages?
Correct.
They have the redacted pages of it?
Yeah.
Actually, that reminds me of one of my friends, Johanna James, has a YouTube
channel.
She explores these topics, and I believe she had made a video update sharing
those details.
And it's all interesting, but the most interesting of everything was in that
book anyway.
I don't...
There was nothing that stood out to me from the missing stuff, actually, that
was, to
me, suggested something dirty.
But it's funny that the CIA redacted...
They probably just figured, you know, people are dopes.
Let's keep this from them.
Like, whatever it was.
What did they think was interesting about the redacted stuff?
I just even, like, they've...
I'm trying to find...
I'm digging through, like, comments of people that have been looking into this
from a couple
years ago.
They said this could have just been, like, a dump, and they could have scanned
everything
in the CIA, because they were talking about the handwritten notes on certain
pages, and,
like, why does this have a handwritten note on it?
Right.
Because someone just wrote it.
The guy who wrote the book wrote down his grocery list or something like that.
Lots of weird reasons.
But that doesn't...
It doesn't really mean a whole lot.
It's just that they're trying to discover...
How much time did you spend when you were in Egypt?
So I've been there twice in the last year.
I'm very blessed to say that.
So I was there for 17 nights from November, December of 2020, which was awesome,
traveling
at that period of time during the midst of all the lockdowns and everything
else.
And then I was there for just under a week in September, October this year.
Oh, pretty recent.
Yeah.
And then I went to Peru in August with a lovely man, Brian Forster, who's been
giving tours.
He's been to...
Because he lives in Peru.
He's been to Machu Picchu more than 70 times.
The Egyptian tours, did you go with a guide?
Did you...
Yeah.
That Yusuf Awian.
So it's called the Kemet School.
And his...
Well, I should say ex-wife runs it.
And so it's all based on the teaching of his father, which is again, Akeem Abdel
Awian,
who was in the pyramid code.
So it's based on the tribal knowledge that was passed down.
And by the way, it's worth mentioning that he had, Akeem, when he was a kid, he
had went
in a tunnel from Saqqar, Egypt to Giza, which is eight miles as the bird flies.
That's like...
That's...
That doesn't...
That's not supposed to exist.
That according...
Like there's no evidence of this, but like he did it.
I mean, I have no reason to doubt him.
I didn't...
I mean, but there's...
It's already been known that there's like a labyrinth within Egypt, that there's
subterranean...
What do you mean that's not supposed to exist?
Did he document it?
Does he have photos of this thing?
No.
We're talking a poor Egyptian kid that did it in like the 1950s or something
like that.
And we don't know where this is?
No.
However, there's...
So this is the weird thing about Giza, my friend, is that there's something
called the
Osiris Shaft, which is located directly under the causeway between the Sphinx
and the Second
Pyramid.
And it goes about a hundred feet underground.
It's carved out of the limestone bedrock.
It's the creepiest place I've ever been in my life.
It's disturbing.
Why is it disturbing?
I don't know, Joe.
Well, there's human bones in there.
I stepped on it.
I didn't even know.
What?
Yeah.
How old are the bones?
Well, I...
Not sure, but I was...
Someone had told me, like, not super ancient.
Like, something like people in more modern times, maybe a hundred years ago,
fell down there
or something, but...
And I got to go in there, but here's...
So that's the shaft right there?
No, that's not it.
Oh, no, that...
Yes, that's the entrance into it.
And then you go straight down from there.
God, look at a line of people.
Yeah, you gotta pay $2,000 to get in there.
Oh yeah, they were fucking floating around.
It's everywhere.
Potato chip bags.
Really?
So that's the first shaft.
So it's three different shafts, and you go down, and here's where it gets...
This is the crazy part.
When you get to the third level, which is completely dark and freaky, there was
a side tunnel.
Zahi Awas himself, there was a documentary.
It was either '96 or '99.
He went down there with...
Like, it was a Fox documentary.
And he showed...
He's standing in front of this tunnel that went sideways.
And he says, "It's yet to be explored.
And we...
I don't know what's down there."
And I'm thinking, "The hell you don't know what's down there?"
Like, you never walked down there?
But Joe, they've since sealed it up.
It's like cinder blocks.
They sealed it up.
What?
Yes!
So there is...
What?
Swear to God!
Why would they seal it up?
That's a really...
I...
Hey, Joe, I really want to know the answer to that question.
What?
That doesn't make any sense.
Alright, so here...
This ties into, like, the same thing about this eight-mile tunnel connecting
from Saqqara
to Giza, which is...
Couldn't find...
Couldn't tell you where that is today, but we already know that they were doing
shit underground.
When you look at the Osiris shaft, and you can look at Zahi Hawass...
By the way, let me just say, "I love you, Zahi."
"I would love to work with the Egyptian antiquities and go do some tours and
bring light and bring
tourism to Egypt."
Let me be clear.
Because, like, this is a sensitive topic.
These people...
You know what I mean?
I'm not dissing Egypt in their knowledge or the people running the show.
I would love to work with them.
I have my own little ideas, and it's all fun.
But...
But...
But, like, it's the same thing.
Like, they excavated the Sphinx, and there was always said to be tunnels under
there, and
they're there.
I made...
This is my most recent video.
And there was no pictures ever released to the public, and some dude snuck down
in there
and took some photos.
You can't see much.
But what you know is that there are things that have gone underground in Egypt
that, for
whatever reason, Joe, is just off limits to the public.
Completely off limits.
Is there any speculation as to why it would be off limits?
All...
It's all conspiratorial.
Like, I'll wait...
Okay, only...
My best guess is anyone else's best guesses.
But...
But some suggest that the Egyptians is one underground cataclysm, and that
people were doing things
underground in the same way that we saw in Cappadocia of Turkey, where there's
those...
Many underground cities, for example, Darren-QU, they go, like, 15 levels
underground.
Have you heard of this?
No.
So they went underground during the cataclysm?
This is the idea?
That, like, somewhere around 12,000 years ago, like, whenever this Younger Triest
Impact
Theory...
Does that make the most sense to me?
Now, if you look at Darren-QU and those underground cities, they claim, like,
modern academics
say, oh, they probably built these to defend themselves against invaders.
And I'm like, hang on a second.
If you're being invaded, you don't have time...
Let me...
Oh, I forgot to say this.
Some of these cities can support 50,000 people.
This.
What?
What is that?
See?
And the fact you haven't even heard of this, Joe, is this is what I'm talking
about.
So that's just a depiction, but they went down...
The underground city of Turkey.
That's only one of them.
They have houses on the surface, and they look all normal, but then it's much
larger
as you go underground.
Hundreds of feet, and they were made to hold livestock and everything.
And some of them...
So there's several of these that they know about, and some of them connect by
miles and
miles of tunnel, Joe.
Underground, some of them go hundreds of feet, and they go down to underground
rivers, and
it's carved out of limestone.
Underground rivers.
Yeah.
So how old do they think these things are?
Well, if you read about it, they'll say, oh, a couple thousand.
That's fucking incredible.
Look at this.
They say a couple thousand years.
However, something tells me that this was involved in...
Maybe the ancients knew about the cataclysm of, you know, and that it was
coming.
And so they prepped, because I'm sorry, Joe.
I know a little bit about war, and you don't...
If someone's invading you, you don't have time to carve out miles and miles of
bedrock tunnel.
That would take...
You know how many years that would take?
Look at that.
There's many more.
Like, there's several of these cities, by the way.
Darren Cuyo is just one of the more known ones.
And you can do tours of it.
Did you hear about that one guy?
There was a guy...
God, I want to say it was in Italy.
And he had a house.
And in the house, he had dug down through the ground and developed this
incredible chapel.
Built this immense structure.
And they came to his house.
And the authorities essentially said, "Listen, what are you doing?
Like, we know you're doing something.
Let us in and we're going to arrest you."
And he said, "Alright, I'll show you.
It's nothing nefarious.
This is what I did."
And he built this...
He had this incredible art project that he had essentially had a very modest
home.
And then as you go into this modest home, and then you go down through this
passageway,
he had developed what is essentially this immense, super intricate art project.
And by himself.
He had done this over the course of decades.
Right.
And made this incredible place.
And it had become, you know, something that was like a point of focus for the
authorities.
Where they're like, "What is this?
Does this guy have guns down there?
Like, what is he doing?
Has he got a bomb?"
Yeah, meth lab.
See if you can find that.
I found a couple.
Oh, here's the Italy one from this year, yeah.
Yeah, I believe it's Italy.
I found one in California too.
Oh.
The California one.
Oh, hold on now.
I know about the California one.
I've seen that one too.
But this, the Italy one is amazing because it's really, really beautiful.
There's a video of it, I think.
Oh, maybe this is it.
So this took him years with modern equipment?
Let's see.
Yeah.
Is this it?
It's just a tunnel.
Yeah, I don't think this is it.
Because I don't think it looked like that.
It looked really cool.
Oh, under my nose.
Tunnel system.
Oh, that's a tunnel system under his house that he bought.
That was a guy who found a tunnel system under his house.
So he had a house and then like, he's like, what's going on this floorboard?
You want to hear something really fascinating?
Sure.
So in Egypt, people, they're finding things all the time.
People are, when they're doing like renovations or on their house.
So people are digging under their homes in the Cairo area and literally finding
artifacts.
Under their homes.
Yes.
So listen to this.
Do you want to guess?
So there is a black market for antiquities.
Now, let's just talk mummies alone.
And this, you can find mainstream articles on this.
How much is a mummy?
Well, the estimated yearly black market revenue for mummies alone is between
estimated two
to six billion dollars a year.
So let's go with four billion.
People just buying mummies?
Yeah.
These rich people are probably buying mummies and because I mean, who has the
money for
that?
And let me tell you something else that's real interesting because it kind of
show like,
first of all, wasn't just a couple of years ago, the UFC's total valuation was
like four
billion.
Yeah.
So let's say, or if they're saying estimated between two and six billion, let's
just go
with four.
Right.
That's a year.
Right.
Just mummies.
So here's something else.
And I got to be careful because I'm convinced big farmer is running the whole
earth at this point.
I should be.
So the Purdue family and the Sackler family, you've heard of them.
They were the ones that did the Oxycontin.
Yeah.
Why don't you look just how much money they've put into Egyptian antiquities
and museums around
the world, including starting, this is recently, a few months ago.
And this goes back years, but recently they're starting a program at, I forgot
what, it may
be Purdue University because that's by John Sackler, or Purdue, John Purdue.
Yeah.
And anyways, so these people have an incredible interest in Egyptian antiquities.
And that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I find that quite interesting
that some
of the richest, powerful people on earth are really into this stuff.
And then I look at-
They probably got like some crazy chamber in their fucking Oxycontin bought
houses.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
And they can show you mummies and shit.
I mean, come on, I think about these guys drinking their brandy.
Oh, let me go back to my voice.
They're drinking.
Come down here and look what I purchased for a hundred million dollars.
This is King Tut's brother and look at him here.
That kind of cheddar.
Yeah.
Bring your buddies over.
Cause dude, I looked at a house in Beverly Hills.
I never actually looked at it, but I looked at it online.
And you know, we're thinking about moving to this one area of Beverly Hills and
they had
this house that was for sale and it had a dinosaur in it.
The house had a dinosaur.
There was a raptor.
Yeah.
And you could buy the dinosaur.
It was a million dollars more than the house and then a million dollars more.
You could get the dinosaurs as well.
I'm not going to lie.
I think that's pretty cool.
It's pretty dope.
Yeah.
That doesn't make me feel bad.
It's like-
No.
It makes me feel bad to own a mummy.
That's gross.
I'm not into owning a mummy.
It's a human being.
I am into owning a fucking dinosaur bone.
Joe, you got like a man cave?
What's your situation like here?
No.
This is my man cave.
Okay.
My house is a fucking- it's run by chicks.
Joe, what- okay.
My house is run by my wife and my daughters.
How are you doing with that?
How's that?
That's right.
As long as I have this, as long as I have this studio and place where I can
hang out and
I just bought a comedy club, that's-
Oh, congrats.
So this is all my stuff.
Yeah.
So I can do whatever, which is a perfect balance.
Yeah.
You know, because I, you know, I'm a moron.
I like stupid shit.
I like UFOs and chimp heads that are made out of symbols.
That's wonderful.
You know?
The one thing this place is missing now is a dinosaur bone.
We need to get something in here.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
I don't need a fucking dinosaur.
We need something.
Internet.
Those are so expensive.
Yeah.
Like that, that raptor, which was a full, full raptor.
See if you can find it, Jamie.
Beverly Hills home for sale with dinosaur.
It was fucking dope.
Cause it was like a six foot tall, like velociraptor.
I love it.
Yeah.
It was pretty dope.
And it, you know, most of those things you only get like part of the skeleton
is real.
And a lot of it is just recreations.
Like they recreate femurs and stuff that's missing.
Yeah, that's it.
That's the house.
Sees a $38 million Beverly Hills mansion with a 150 million year old dinosaur
fossil.
Look at that.
That's what I need.
Look at that thing.
Imagine that motherfucker chasing you.
Like, fuck, I'm going to get eaten by a goddamn lizard.
I, uh, I'd like to bring people over to show them that.
Like, come back to seduce people.
Like, come back to my place.
I'm going to show you my dinosaur.
I would probably spend most of my day getting high staring at that.
That's it.
It would be a problem.
I would have, I would lose a lot of my productivity cause I would be spending
so much time staring
at that fucking dinosaur.
I'd want to wear one of its teeth around like a necklace.
No, no, no.
You got to keep it in the head.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's why you buy a neck, a second head.
Jeez.
That's not like a magic key.
You got to make where like you put the tooth in and it opens up the vault.
Right.
Right.
The thing slides aside and there's an underground tunnel.
Oh yeah.
From the temple speaking of that.
Yes.
Oh, you did?
Oh, let me check it out.
This place.
Yes.
Yes.
This is it.
So this guy, yeah.
Temples of the humankind.
This is exactly it.
This guy made this man in his fucking house.
So his house on the outside, again, a very humble, modest home.
But then you go inside of it.
It is absolutely spectacular.
Beautiful artwork.
And again, all done by this guy.
I mean, I don't know how many people he had help him.
It shows the house, right?
Yeah.
So that's the house.
So look at that.
Normal house.
You look at that house.
You're like, oh, it's, you know, normal guy.
Normal house.
Yeah.
You would have no idea.
But this guy built it.
It took him forever.
Okay.
So over 15 years.
And that's, of course, using modern equipment.
Yeah.
So that's something that's worth mentioning.
Because when you look at these underground cities that are absolutely massive,
Joe, that can support some of them are 20,000 people, 30,000 people, 50,000
people.
Hold on.
Scroll up, Jamie, for where it says the 15 year part.
It says, over the next 15 years, more volunteers flocked around the globe to
join the growing community of temple builders working in four hours.
So as many people working in four hour shifts and funding their projects with
small businesses to serve the local community.
But since no planning permission had been granted by the government.
What is that word?
Damanhurians had to keep the growing temples under wraps.
See, that's what it is.
It was important to build them in secret or we would never be able to build
them.
Italian law does not foresee this sort of underground building.
So in 1991, they had completed most of the nine chambers, murals, stained glass
windows, ornate statues, vibrant mosaics, and secret doors spread throughout
the secret excavation.
So look at what it looks like on the surface versus what it looks like
underneath.
Fucking incredible, man.
I thought this guy did it by himself, but apparently he had a lot of people
working on it.
But God, it's beautiful.
It's spectacular.
And when you go down like deeper and deeper, like it is absolutely amazing.
And I think it's available to the public now.
I think you could like go on a tour of it, which is really wild.
Imagine like going through that house.
He could pull up.
Are we in the right place?
Don't let Epstein buy that.
150 volunteers.
Oh, 150 volunteers over a 15-year period, less than 40 years ago, directed by
one, now 57-year-old, former insurance broker.
That's a guy like you were working at Target, right?
Yep.
This guy really wanted to do this.
He experienced visions at age 10 of doing this.
He dedicated his life to building the temples after he experienced visions at
age 10.
Wow.
In his visions, the temples were home to a highly evolved community who enjoyed
an idyllic existence in which all people work towards a common good.
Look how beautiful that work is.
Like the artwork is incredible.
That's spectacular.
God, it's so gorgeous.
You know, to people listening, I just want to point out like, you know, you
have the ability to look into things yourselves and think for yourselves.
And when you look at these Darren Cuyo caves and there's, I'm telling you, like
50,000 people, huge, hundreds and hundreds of rooms.
Spell that out so people are just listening.
Well, I might even have D-A-R-I-N.
Caves in Turkey.
Yeah.
And there's a few.
It's in the Cappadocia region of Turkey.
It's in Turkey underground cities.
And you'll see that there's several known.
And again, so if this took a whole team a decade and a half to do, I want
people to go and look at these caves and think for yourself if you believe that
it's feasible to consider that these were done to thwart invaders.
Right.
So in short notice, and I'm like, and how big and advanced they actually are, I'm
like, the evidence is quite literally in front of us that humans were doing
something special a long time ago.
And do the estimate is just that this was done thousands of years ago.
Right.
All right.
So they say 3000 year old city, but I'm like, you can't prove that.
Like you could prove that if he found some stuff and it's 3000, but they don't
necessarily know that it's not older because, and the reason I say that Joe is
because my gut instinct on this, throw it in the trash if you want.
But that was, that was to survive a cataclysm of some kind.
It's too big.
It was meant to have farm animals and sustain them.
There was air shafts.
We're talking 15, 18 levels down, Joe.
And I'm like, you know, something tells me that was an arc of some kind.
It was a, it was a shit hit the fan cave.
Well, they have those bunkers today that these crazy preppers use.
My buddy Duncan and I did this television show a few years back and Duncan went
to visit these super preppers that had used these, I think they were like, I
want to say it was like some sort of a military base this guy had purchased.
God, I wish I could remember what the fuck it was.
Was it a silo?
They had these something along those lines, but it had these like enormous
garage doors where you pull the cars in.
They had like trailers where, you know, you pull your trailer in and then
inside they were essentially planning on having a sustainable environment that
could keep people alive in case of like a nuclear disaster or some sort of bioweapon
or some shit.
That's smart.
I think people-
Doomsday bunkers.
Doomsday bunkers.
Look at these fucking things.
Oh, that's fun.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, but here's my position.
I don't want to live.
If the fucking world gets nuked and there's like just cannibals out there.
Okay.
I hope the nuke hits me right in the face.
You know what I think is more likely to happen?
What?
So the last, this is outdated info, but this is before Trump had taken office.
And at that time, the last five Department of Homeland Security heads, all five
of them said that the greatest threat facing the United States is a grid down
scenario because there's a few things that could do it.
It could be a hacking.
It could be a solar event.
And that would be absolutely catastrophic because if the power goes down for
months on end, and you got to keep in mind that the United States is connected
by only three grids, east, west, and Texas.
And so if it went down, like they don't just have these, what do you call them,
the electrical, whatever the hell you call them, but they're huge.
And they're not made to, they're made to order.
They're not just like lined up in shelves.
What do they call it?
The big, the transformers.
So like if there was something like that that happened, it's potential or
possible that you could have a grid down scenario for in some areas or the
whole thing for months on end.
And you have to think about that if, if that happens, the city water pumps will
go down once the generators run out of their fuel, this fuel tanks won't work.
Like we're talking, that would be so apocalyptic in itself.
And if that was to happen, it would be the haves and the have nots, those who
have guns and those that don't, or those that prepped, those that didn't.
Yeah.
And that's possible.
And I wouldn't even be surprised.
I want to get too crazy.
But like, I mean, in our lifetimes, it's whether it's a solar flare, like
another Carrington event, or, or some terrible entity that wants to bring our
shit down.
And if they were successful, it would, in a short period of time, days, like
there's this saying that humanity or society is only three or excuse me, nine
meals away from chaos, which means, you know, three days.
And so if you have a situation where the grid went down for even a couple weeks,
Joe, it would be, it would be shit.
Especially if you look.
For sure.
Well, Texas almost went down last winter.
Yeah.
Came real close.
Came within four minutes.
A wake up call.
Yeah, it was for a lot of folks.
And I think that solar flares are a huge threat and not just a huge threat to
the grid, but huge set to life on earth.
Any kind of supernova that's anywhere reasonably close to us.
And we're, we're a wrap.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
Hypernovas in particular, I watched this documentary where they first started
observing hypernovas in the cosmos.
And they thought that it was wars going on with, with civilizations in space
because they were happening so frequently.
Like they were observed, cause you know, obviously there's hundreds of billions
of galaxies.
And so they were looking out in these hundreds of billions of galaxies and they
were detecting these gamma radiation bursts.
And they were like, oh my God, they're going to war.
They're going to war out there in space.
And then they realized, no, these are hypernovas.
And that these, these novas essentially just wipe out entire solar systems and
more.
I heard, well, I don't know what the last one was, but they had, it was
described as being bright.
Even during the day you could see it.
It was like essentially a flash that was sustained for, I don't know if it was
months, something like that.
And you just see in the sky.
I'm like, and they said it even lit up the sky, even when there was like a new
moon and it was dark.
Yeah.
I'm like, that would be so crazy to see that.
Well, what's really crazy is it happened millions and millions of years ago and
you're just seeing it now.
It's like a time machine.
Yeah.
Like every star that you see, when you go on a crazy clear night and you're
looking at the Milky Way, you're looking at things from millions of years ago.
Yeah.
That's what's nuts.
That's really nuts.
Yeah.
That's the one thing.
Yeah.
I find that just fascinating to think about.
Yeah.
When, when they're observing the cosmos, like we were talking about the big
bang earlier, when they're observing 13 plus billion years ago,
they're essentially looking into the past at what happened 13 plus billions of
years ago.
When they see these like stellar nurseries and they're, you know, they're, they're
using like these spectacular telescopes to look deep, deep, deep into space.
They're looking at the past.
Yeah.
So that's like an idea for a time machine is that if there was some way to
travel vastly far distances, let's say like a wormhole of some kind.
Yeah.
And then you stopped and turned around and looked at earth and say you had the
abilities for enhanced magnification of some kind.
Wouldn't you technically be watching the past then?
If you could get, if you get ahead of it, I'm saying, if you get ahead of the
speed of light somehow and then turn around and look and then you'd be seeing
earth from say a thousand years ago or something.
You would have to, yeah, you would have to figure out a way to get instantaneously
so far away that the light that comes from earth.
But if you could see that good, wouldn't be the light anymore.
Right.
Would it?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
It's not my world, but if I could go back in time and see any era, I think
Egypt during its prime would be the era that I would look into.
A hundred percent.
Because if you look at all of what we know about ancient civilization, whatever's
left, you know, whatever's intriguing, all the amazing sites that archaeologists
have explored, that's the one that's the most what the fuck.
It is.
I would do any, yeah, if there was one thing I could go back in time and look
at, I want to see what was going on then.
I want to see the construction.
Because then it would answer many, many other questions.
Yeah.
That one thing alone would answer so many other things.
Have you been in any of the Mayan structures?
Uh, no.
I went, I mean, just Inca stuff in Peru, but I do want to go down to central
Mexico.
I want to do that next.
I want to go to Chichen Itza.
I've been there.
Yeah.
It's pretty amazing.
They don't let you walk up on the things anymore.
I think one of the Jake Paul or someone fucked it up.
Didn't they fucked that up?
Didn't someone like-
I don't know one of them, I think they did.
Wasn't some, maybe someone filmed a music video up there or something?
You want to hear something?
Some pop star or something?
Well, you can't climb the Great Pyramid of Giza anymore.
You want to know why?
Why?
There's this French couple that went up there and they fucked on top of the
Great Pyramid.
Nice!
And they uploaded the video.
They ruined it for everybody?
Oh yeah.
And there's been some other instances too.
Like someone went up there and bra, titless or whatever, and that really upset
them.
But you can see a picture.
I haven't seen the porno, but you see this couple, it's a snapshot of literally
these two
naked people on top of the Great Pyramid in the night sky.
Yeah, why not?
Good for them.
But they fucked it up for everybody else.
Yeah.
But the Chichen Itza is really amazing.
And you know, when I went to Chichen Itza, they really had no idea what
happened to the
Mayans.
This was 20 years ago.
But now they're reasonably sure they were wiped out by disease.
Yep.
They think that European settlers came and the depictions that the Europeans
had of how spectacular
the Mayan civilization was back then.
And how these guys had these gold headdresses and you know, these incredibly
sophisticated
cities.
And they brought in smallpox and just killed everybody.
What a shame.
Yeah.
Well, they did that to the Native Americans.
They did that to everybody.
But what was really amazing about the sophistication of the settlements in
Mexico was that, you
know, they had these immense stone structures.
By the way, they did it to the Amazonians too, the people that lived in the
Amazon.
You know, that was another really interesting conversation that I had with
Graham Hancock, where
he was talking about how through the use of LIDAR, they've detected all these
grids.
You know, that was the basis of that movie, The Lost City of Z, you know, that
these European
explorers had gone through the Amazon and come back with these amazing stories
of these incredibly
sophisticated civilizations.
And then when people returned 50 years later, there was no such civilization.
There was no evidence whatsoever because the jungle had swallowed up all these
buildings.
And until recently, they thought it was just folklore and bullshit until they
started using LIDAR.
And this light emitting radar thing that LIDAR is, I'm not exactly sure how it
works, but through
use of LIDAR, which is non-invasive, so it doesn't destroy anything, but it
gives them a graph
or an image of what is going on.
And through that, they saw all these grids that indicated streets and
irrigation and all
this.
So, European travelers literally were genocidal by accident.
They fucking killed everybody.
I mean, as much as we like to talk about the genocide that European explorers
enacted on
Native Americans, which they absolutely did.
They slaughtered a lot of Native Americans.
There's no, it's not forgiving that.
What they really killed them with is disease.
90% of Native Americans were killed by disease.
Yeah.
It's sad.
It's heartbreaking to think about that.
It's fucking crazy.
It's crazy that a country where they're getting along with this disease, I mean,
they existed
with it.
They survived.
And they came over on boats and gave it to people that didn't have an immunity
to it.
And it just burned right through the entire population.
Yeah.
Horrific.
Yeah.
And that's what happened to the Mayans.
The Mayans, you know, and the Mayans is not that long ago.
You know, they know that the Mayan civilization, you know, they were around
hundreds of years
ago.
You know, five, six hundred years ago, they were around.
Like during Cabeza de Vaca, he details in his journeys across North America, he
details
all of his trips through the like all these various Spanish explorers detail
the Mayan civilizations.
Going back to that LIDAR study.
So one of this is something that I just thought of is that it's so interesting
that so that
area that people had already that they found on with through the use of LIDAR
had already
been previously surveyed on foot.
And one of the and they didn't see anything, including a seven story tall
building that was
consumed by trees and lush vegetation.
And it had, like I said, had already been surveyed on foot.
So that's how much the Earth consumes things.
Yeah.
And so now they're using LIDAR from space and they're finding shit, shit
ancient stuff all
over the Sahara Desert.
Whoa, that's what I'm saying.
I'm like, if this place was green 5000 plus years ago and had the largest
freshwater lakes
and a huge network of rivers, people, of course, would have been living there.
And so now they're finding random stuff all over.
I'm like, I've said it before.
I think the Sahara Desert is the ancient jackpot.
Like under that sand, they're going to find things and discoveries in our
lifetime that
I think are going to be probably amazing because I don't think people would
have been there.
It makes sense.
It makes sense if 5000 years ago, if there was an advanced civilization in that
area and 5000
years ago, it was all lush and green.
What a weird thing, huh?
That happens where the Earth just continually shifts its climate and changes
what's warm
and green.
That's why you look at houses in Malibu.
You're like, what are you doing?
You got a house.
This is not going to last, bro.
Yeah, it's a yeah.
You're on the edge of the ocean.
What makes you think it's going to stay there?
Yeah.
People need to be including these things in the topic of climate change and manmade
climate
change and all that, because I'm like, you know, if the Earth is going through
these cycles that are, I mean, if we're God, I mean, if we're looking at like
something
like 50,000 years ago, the Earth's temperature is something like 15 degrees
Fahrenheit hotter
that's been identified through the core ice samples of Antarctica.
And it's like, well, if they want to say that, you know, two, three degrees
Fahrenheit
would be enough to screw over our civilization.
And well, if we're talking 15 plus degrees naturally, I want to know more about
that and
why it's not being included in the conversation.
Well, you know, when Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson in particular, when he
discusses
this, one of the things that he says, says global warming is certainly a threat.
He goes, but you know what a real threat is?
Global cooling.
He was like, global cooling is way worse.
He's like global warming essentially makes more plant life.
You have like, that's the thing that's going on where we talk about like
increased CO2 in
the environment.
There's more green on this earth today than has ever been.
It's, it's weird.
Like you think of where we must be decimating the rainforest and we're killing
all the, we
are definitely fucking up the rainforest for sure.
However, there's a lot of green and it's more of it because green lives on
carbon dioxide,
which is kind of crazy.
Yeah.
And most people don't seem to, I mean, plenty of people know that, but I don't
know if a
lot of people do.
Right.
Well it's, we're looking at it in terms of like pollution and particulates in
the atmosphere.
And he was saying that that's the real issue.
Like pollution and particulates, that stuff's terrible and it causes cancer and
it's making
people have much shorter lives.
If you look at people that live like in a highly dense urban environments, they
generally
live less long than people who live in a clear air country.
Like it's just, it's just by virtue of the shit you're breathing in, the
environmental
sector.
But he said global cooling is fucking terrifying.
You can't grow anything.
Ice ages.
Yeah.
Ice ages are fucking terrifying.
Yeah.
That's what we really need to be worried about.
Well, I think we scared people enough.
Yep.
Oh, hold on.
One last thing.
I cannot possibly leave this podcast without telling you my DMT story.
Oh, you have one?
I do.
So this is a few years ago.
I made it myself, which was, so I'm an alchemist.
And I've only done this twice.
I bought, this is no big, this is in a different state.
No one, you can't come after me.
I don't have anything.
Uh, but, uh, so the first thing I experienced is the loud ping in the side of
my head, inside
of my head that was unbelievably loud.
And the whole room, my bedroom was vibrating.
It was like, and then I started seeing these little blobs that had like these
faces and
they didn't, I got like a bad vibe from them.
But then what I saw is it was all the beautiful colors and it was essentially a
being with big
old eyes.
I interpreted it as feminine and it kept going like this with its arms and in
the middle of
its body was a pyramid.
Now, let me say a couple of things.
Whoa.
Oh, you know, he's an ancient history guy.
Of course you can see pyramids.
No, I, I did this at the time because I was desperate for answers.
It was a, it was a spiritual thing.
And if you say, I think about all kinds of things throughout the day, I was the
pyramids
and ancient stuff was the furthest thing from my mind.
And the only reason why I did DMT is because I couldn't figure out how to do ayahuasca
and
figured that was a dangerous thing to do.
Make myself, I got to go to Peru.
How long ago was this?
This is 2018.
So you weren't into Egypt back then?
No, I was, but, but, um, I mean, more so now.
Not at the time.
Right.
And this was, I mean, this is, I was literally depressed and looking for
answers in my life
and guidance.
And I was doing it from a spiritual standpoint because I felt like at that time
I could benefit
from my ayahuasca journey, but I wasn't available to do it.
So fast forward a couple of years later to last December, 2020, I'm in Egypt
with Yosef
Awiyan, the son of Akim Abdel.
And I was asking him because I was saying earlier that I think that the pyramids
were not built
to be tombs.
I think there was something functional, but I'm not exactly sure what.
Could it be something for generating power?
Could it be something else?
I don't know.
But when I've walked through the internal structure layout is so bizarre, Joe,
nothing
about it makes sense for a tomb.
It's not meant for people to be through.
It is utterly weird.
But so getting to the point is Yosef.
I asked him, I'm like, "What do you think?"
Because he doesn't think it was built to be a tomb for anyone.
And I said, "What do you think it is?"
And he said his father told him, "It's us."
And I instantly, the first thing I thought of it was like, because I could
never explain.
I didn't understand why I was seeing in my little DMT trip that it was a
pyramid in a
body and it was going like this.
It was like this.
Explain to people who are listening.
So imagine folding out my two arms in front of me, palms up, like it was
showing me something.
Over and over again it was doing that?
Yes.
And the pyramid of all the colors was just in the middle of the body.
And then when I go to Egypt, he says, "It's us."
What does he mean by us?
I don't know, Joe.
That's what his father told him and I have no idea.
So it makes me wonder.
I'm like, is the pyramid some sort of code in itself that the construction of
it and the
math and everything behind it equates to something that explains something
about humanity?
Or, and this is a wild idea and it's nothing more than just an idea, but I look
at the fact
that across multiple continents around the world, there are different ancient
civilizations
that talk about us living to be hundreds and even thousands of years old.
It's not just the Bible.
It's the Sumerians.
It's even Native Americans.
There's different cultures around the world that had said the same thing.
Now, that doesn't mean that that's true, but what if?
Because some people think that, well, you've got to keep in mind that the Nile
River was
once eight miles closer to the pyramids and went right up to the steps.
So, for example, when you brought up earlier with that boat that was found
literally right
next to the Great Pyramid, the water went up to the steps virtually.
It was right there.
So some people argue that water was moved through the pyramid and had something
to do with
oxygen.
And this is why these are just wild ideas, by the way.
But what if it was something for DNA restoration?
Because if it was possible for people to live to have been thousands of years
old, which I
have no idea.
But if that happened, let's say, could because it's like if these pyramids were
not tombs,
then what were they?
If the water went right up next to them, that makes me think maybe had
something to do with
generating power.
And I know that sounds crazy to some people for talking about a stack of bricks
and stones.
Like, what are you talking about?
But I encourage people to look at the internal structure and layout of the
pyramid.
You can just Google image it and look at the map.
And when you walk through it, Joe, it's utterly bizarre.
It's not made to be walked through.
You've got to keep in mind you're seeing it as it is today with these boards,
these planks,
just so you can walk through it.
Like you go through this 300 foot long shaft that's like three by three.
And then when you get to the grand gallery or so-called grand gallery, it's the
same thing.
It was like smooth like a slide.
But generating power how?
Is there a speculation?
So there's a gentleman named Christopher Dunn that we saw.
He was in one of the articles that was brought up earlier.
He's the one that gender developed.
He wrote a book about it and it's called the Giza power plant.
And he some people have theorized it had to do with separating hydrogen from
the water or something.
These are wild ideas.
I don't I'm not I can't speak to it much because it's kind of a it's hard for
me my brain to wrap around.
I'm like, I don't know what they're talking about other than that.
But I can look at it and think that this thing is unbelievably different than
any type of Egyptian burial site.
For example, the the Valley of the Kings is obviously a known place of burial.
And it's wall to ceiling covered all over in glyphs paintings, beautiful stuff.
All the mastabas around the pyramids.
Same thing.
Every known burial site for anything.
The Egyptians is covered in all wall art.
And it looks like a burial site, whereas there's not one single glyph in any of
the pyramids whatsoever.
Other than the pyramid of Unas, which has some beautiful paintings.
But it's it was done.
This is a thing people don't mention.
It's over plaster.
It wasn't on the stone.
So someone it's you see the stone, which is spectacular.
And there's plaster over it.
And then and it looks honestly and I don't mean any disrespect.
It just doesn't look good at all compared to the structure itself.
So somebody probably did that later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it's worth mentioning.
And I want more people need to explore this.
Like there's almost zero evidence to even suggest that it was a pyramid.
The reason why people think it is today is because we were taught it in school
at a young impressionable
age.
And we weren't even explained any of the details.
Never mind that there was no mummies found.
That could be explainable by looting.
You know, but if you if you bring up and you see the structure itself, it is so
bizarre.
And to me, I think it's just above us.
So it's so bizarre in the way the tunnels were created and these shafts that go
up and down.
And it doesn't look like something that was designed for people to move through.
Whatsoever.
It's it's so strange, Joe.
And I'm and so this guy's book, does he speculate?
Does he have a good explanation?
He thinks it was he he posits that it is a it was a power plant.
Right.
But for what?
That's a great question.
Like, how did it generate power through water?
For when I gathered, it was the running water through it.
And you were able to separate the hydrogen out of the water or something to
that effect.
Huh.
And and do with it.
I don't know.
But that it was something they really, you know, it's all that who knows shit
is like
it goes out the window when you look at what they did do.
Like you can you can make all your like, well, who knows what they did?
But what did look what they did do, though?
Yeah.
Look what they did do.
Look at this two million three hundred thousand pound or two million three
hundred thousand
stone structure that is just pointed to perfect due north, south, east and west.
Like, what do they do?
What?
Who are these people?
What do they do?
Yeah.
How the fuck do they do this?
It's it's one of the funnest mysteries.
And this is the one thing I've seen, like, because like when I was talking
earlier at the
beginning of this podcast, like what topics do I want to talk about?
These are the ones that make me most happy.
And I remember thinking, like, it's positive.
I'm not I'm not, you know, debating abortion here.
I'm debating the pyramids.
And it's so funny, Joe, because it's quite a sensitive topic, whether it's Atlantis
or the
pyramids, even suggesting something alternative comes with so much backlash.
It's quite interesting.
But it's it's supposed to be fun.
It's interesting.
And I just can't help but think about that DMT experience that was showing me
that because
I'm like, when he said it's us and I don't know what that means, I'm like, I
think there's
something there because what I saw, I don't know, it makes me it really made me
wonder
because I didn't think much about it for a couple of years after that.
I told my brother about it and he's like, well, that's interesting.
And I kind of like it's not that I forgot about it, but I was like, I don't
know.
I guess it's just my brain that developed some.
It was just imagination.
Who knows?
Yeah, who knows?
Yeah.
Thanks for being here, man.
Joe, wrap this up.
Tell everybody one more time.
It's bright underscore insight on Instagram.
Yep.
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Yep.
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Two words.
My name's Jimmy and it's all kinds of fun topics.
Follow me on there.
And Joe, I have to say thank you very much.
I couldn't have been more flattered that you invited me on.
And my pleasure, dude.
Thanks for being here.
And thanks for putting out such interesting content.
Yeah.
You've got a lot of really cool shit on your YouTube page.
One last thing.
We're wrapping up.
I just want to tell to anyone out there, get off the couch.
Like it's surreal to me that a handful of years ago, Joe, I was on the couch,
unhappy
in life and in watching Joe Rogan podcast.
And now here I am sitting across from you.
And all I did was decide, and it wasn't easy, but I made choices and changes in
my life.
Next thing you know, I find myself traveling to these sites, being on your
podcast and other
things.
And I just want to tell people if there's only one message is that because in
the short term,
people are going to have to get creative to make money in the near future.
I suspect people are going to people more than ever are unhappy with the
direction of their
lives, corporate work and everything else.
You can make changes.
You can do it too.
Get off the fucking couch.
Thank you, Joe.
Get after it, people.
Bye everybody.
Bye now.
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