Zachary Levi's Thoughts on the Johnny Depp Trial

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Zachary Levi is an actor best known as the star of the superhero film "Shazam!" and the hit television series "Chuck." His new memoir, "Radical Love: Learning to Accept Yourself and Others" is available now.

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and Rachel's fantastic. She's so good. She's she's a lovely person like can imagine she must be Interesting deceit to bro. No it is. Yeah, and sometimes we get to watch it on trial Um, oh, yeah. Oh my god. I'll do that. They had a relationship trial Like this is who was more fucked up in the relationship. Yes. Let's show the whole world. Yeah. Yeah I don't know how I feel I like there's a part of me that just wishes that nobody would really care about any of that drama as it unfolds because it's Not pertinent to anybody's life really or making the world a better place like who gets paid for the advertising money from that trial Must have been a lot of it Of the YouTube time was it all YouTube I don't know I mean, but a lot of it is available on YouTube I mean where was it available for free when it came out? I had a day the people making the videos are making money I feel like I saw an article that said someone's making like 60 grand a month making Reaction videos to the trial or something just reaction videos of the trial or showing it or highlights on everybody wants to know What everybody else thinks about it that the trial is a perfect thing to have a reaction video Because there's so many moments that certainly certainly but I think things like that though Ultimately there I don't know man it I feel like it's making us Less empathetic Ultimately, it is it is making we all get to look at these people literally, you know, like you're saying like that They're having a a marital dispute. We're all getting brought in on their nonsense. Not nonsense. They're their shit They're traumas all that stuff and everyone just gets to sit around eating popcorn and judging the entire fiasco Because it's entertainment now. It's like everything is content and everything is entertainment But the more we do that kind of stuff I do feel like we're pulling farther apart from being able to look at either her or him and say You both have issues and you both need to work on some shit and you know However, the the jury and all that that founded I ultimately I saw little bits and pieces It seemed like he was more in the right than she was I would have gone with that too But the point is they're still human beings both of them the end of the day and they're just a circus when when we see It like that. Yeah, I think he wanted the circus because the circus exposes the truth I think that was the only way to expose the truth But to get her to talk about stuff on camera and he felt like she would kind of fall apart Certainly, but I don't think that so that could have been done just in a courtroom without it airing to the rest of the world All that stuff would have been said on on some cameras that are recording in that room And why are we trying to pretend the jury didn't know how the rest of the world felt? It's already in that case you keep jurors away from anything. How do you keep away from their phone? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know like do we give up on that on jurors being influenced by the outside world? No, I'm that's still very much the law I believe but wasn't it at a certain point in time that they were restricted Like they weren't allowed to watch media. Oh, yeah, something like that. They were sequester. Yeah I mean that's not still going on or do they get to go home? It depends on the trial I think so. Yeah, like in the OJ Simpson trial all those guys got sequester for a long fucking time Oh, man, it was not not ideal for any of them. And after all that they still come up with a fucked-up verdict. I Mean it was that was I agree. I don't I don't see Him as being innocent in that at all But you know Rodney King had just gotten beaten on a freeway Yeah, there's a lot of anger and a lot of yeah pain and frustration and again, not that that should Make the other right or whatever, but it's still just I think we got to come back and be like, you know I don't know. No, you're right Well, we're like everyone who's mocking the trial me included is not being empathetic to the fact that these are two human beings But there's something about Liars in particular that people when they're lying and they are doing it to try to damage someone else. Yeah, oh, it's horrible It's one of the creepiest so there's there's a certain amount of signaling that Everybody's doing by not being empathetic because it is such a public thing The certain amount of signaling that we're doing to each other saying hey that is fucking bullshit Always and everybody kind of agrees and then it's it's kind of better for people it's better for people to see that on display and see people's reaction to it and Make people think about what is it like if someone lies about something just to try to damage someone? Yeah Well, listen, I 100% believe that all lies should be exposed that you know sunlight is the best disinfectant We should be able to talk about all that shit for sure But I think yeah, hopefully it can be done where we all get the example, but we're still nice to each other But we're yeah, we're still radically loving each other It's possible. Yeah, it is possible. It is it's possible for people to be way nicer to each other