Woody Allen's Tainted Legacy

I grew up loving Woody Allen and that's a tough as a Jew from New York. That's a tough one to swallow right there. It is now. Try rewatching Manhattan and if you're comfortable watching it, you're probably a pedophile. I don't remember Manhattan. It's incredible, but it's fucking weird. What year was that? It's in the 70s. It's black and white. My friend Ronan Hirschberg has a great line about that movie where he said it's basically a romantic comedy for pedophiles because the end of the movie is not like I fucked up by dating a high school girl. It's that he said that it didn't work out. Really? Yeah. I might not have ever seen it. Mariel Hemingway. Oh, do you know what? I definitely didn't see it. I mean it's- So she's in high school? The Opus. She's a ... Get this. She's 18 at Dalton, which is where Jeffrey Epstein taught. This is the 70s. That's when he taught there. Allen and Epstein are ... This is my ... I mean ... It's a little weird, right? Yeah. I mean, here's the fucked up part though. The opening is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in a movie. It's just his love letter to New York. It's gorgeous. And I grew up worshiping Woody Allen. He's done some weird shit. He definitely has. Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt about it. He married his stepdaughter. I mean, that enough. That alone is not good. Yeah. No. I mean, that's crazy. And then there's allegations from the other kids. Yeah. Were they coach? Were they not ... I don't know. The one kid, right? Yeah. I don't know. But it's enough to go ... It's enough to be bummed. Yeah. It really bummed. Yeah. Yeah. You ever listen to his stand up, his old stand up? It's brilliant. It's brilliant. He was a great ... That's what's ... We were like, oh, you were a great short story writer. You're a great stand up. You're a great filmmaker. And then you do some weird jazz thing on the side that no one ... I have friends who are like, do you want to watch him? Like, do I want to watch the thing he's fifth best at? No. Do you want to watch me play checkers? No. Fuck that shit. I don't want to watch Woody Allen at the Carlyle. I could give a fuck. I guess if I was really a hardcore Woody Allen fan, I'd go watch it. Really? Just to see him do something that he loves, maybe. The Carlyle where you pay $26 for a Manhattan? I would go see Hunter S. Thompson play drums, even if he sucked. He's just got such a Hunter fan. I loved Woody Allen. That is like ... He loved New York in a way where we felt cool as New Yorkers to be like, fuck Woody Allen. It's Woody Allen. I used to see him on the street all the time and he would just ... Anytime he'd be like, Woody, he'd just run. It was amazing. He'd just run away from you. What year was this? Post all the accusations? I was working at a summer camp in the summer or something and I was a counselor and I saw him and I was like, Woody, and he just ran. Weird to see him run away from kids. Woody Allen, any hall is like the ... I mean, as comics. It's like the prototype right there where you're like, whoa, you made ... It's also the perfect rom-com because they don't end up together. There's so many ... It's such an honor. It's such an honor. Hollywood at that time, especially rom-com. Yeah. And Diane Keaton fucking rules. Yeah, Diane Keaton's great. What was the film that he made with ... Who's the guy with the fucked up nose? Jeez, Owen Wilson. Owen Wilson. Yeah. What a sad way that that's how you're identified. He was a handsome guy. He is a handsome guy. But he's got a fucked up nose. It is fucked up. He works with him because he's so handsome, like having that fucked up nose kind of balances it out where you like him more. That's a great movie, Midnight in Paris. It is very good, but it's him. He's playing Woody Allen. Everyone is. John Cusack and Bolto the Broadway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another great movie. Another great movie. Woody Allen. You're playing Woody. They all just feel real bad about working with them now, though. It's so strange. Yeah. They try to kind of defend him a little bit. The only one who's ever defended them ... I mean, they all kind of avoid it when they can, but it's one of those things. It's like, what do you do? Yeah. I mean, it's tough. He's one of the greatest ... I mean, Polanski's another one, right? You think of the greatest ... Chinatown's one of the greatest movies ever made. Fantastic movie. It's impossible to watch that and not ... See, I'm not enough of a film guy to notice great cinematography. When you watch that movie, you're like, every frame looks beautiful. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah, sometimes creeps are really good at a thing. Isn't that ... creeps are good, too. The problem is throughout history ... We were talking about this the other day, that Socrates and Plato, a lot of these guys that we associate with some of the most brilliant things that anybody ever wrote were pedophiles. Yeah. There was a lot of that going on back then. Maybe that's where they got their powers or something. Fucking kids just makes you really good at your art. I don't know. I don't think so. No, no. I don't think so either. But what's his face? Fucking Baldwin. Alec Baldwin. He's the only guy that defends him now. Pretty openly. Like I need some allies. Yeah, he needs somebody on his team. Did you see Tim Dillon did Alec Baldwin's podcast? I thought that was the most on-brand perfect thing. I saw that I was good.