Vinny Shoreman on the Mental Mistakes Fighters Make

Vinny, what is like when you've worked with so many different people and there's so many different psychological issues that fighters deal with, what do you think is like one of the primary causes, one of the primary things, the psychological missteps that fighters make that you maybe could help them correct? Things from the past, I think. I think it's down to what goes on in their lives before they may have become fighters. Yeah. How so? Because I don't think you can have any relationship with anxiety unless something's triggered it from the past. So I like to go deeper than just the surface. I like to go back and talk to them about the childhood and stuff like that. It seems to work. But the thing is with my job, Joe, it's so interesting because everyone's different. You know, one's got the same DNA or the same fingerprints and everybody's different to work with. So to say one thing would be very difficult. It's just about keeping them where they are completely at one with the selves or they understand the selves. You know what I mean? And not go down certain avenues of getting carried away. A simple example, Eddie told me that before one of his fights in Mexico City, I think it was, he was like, he just praying or he was that nervous. He was praying that he just, I want to go to sleep because his mind was so fucking overactive. And you know, and it's things like that. I'm not, it's now working with Cody, no love Cody Garbrandt and all that are all so different. They're all so talented and brilliant at what they do, but it's also different. It's that's to nail it down to one thing would be difficult. But many times it's memories of failure. Yeah. Or is it? Yeah. Reminder because in the unconscious, this is my belief that people might argue with it, but I think that you have to have a certain connection with something else in the past to get yourself a reference. It's like, I believe that anxiety is something from the past thought about now projected into the future. You know, so I think. Projected into the future is ultimately who you are that defines you. Projected into the future as in you're going to believe you're going to lose or you're going to do this. So what we've done now is just lead it on to what we've both been doing is I've got a new thing called the showman solution where people can go interactive website where they can go on videos and there's like quite a lot of videos of different techniques. What's the URL? The showman solution.com. Dot com. Yeah. It's not out yet. It'll be out released when this comes out. Let me know. So I can send people there, but. Yes, please. The idea behind it is you can't just do it in one session. No. It's a bunch of it's like mental training. That's what pisses me off about fighters. Yeah. They get content me two weeks before. Oh, I need help. Blah, blah, blah, you know, or on the fight day. I worked with Molly McConnie who had two fights recently. She won on, but it was, I had to stop Starbucks for all my kids and the thing you get face time and say, blah, blah, blah. But I have worked with Molly anyway, but people hire me after they lose. Hire me before you lose. So you can, you know, get the best out your training and stuff. But I think that's the nature of the job. I think it makes you question yourself when you lose. Right. So. But that can be great. Yeah. It's great for me. But I mean, no, I mean, even for them, it can be great to lose because it can give you a wake up call. And so many fighters have done their best work after they've lost and made adjustments. Yes. Mighty Mouse is a great example. True. When Mighty Mouse, well, he beat Ian McCall, but honestly, that is a real question of the animal decision. Ian was beating the fuck out of him. Ian had his back and he's pounding him in the head. I mean, it was definitely his worst performance or one of his worst performances. And then from then on, Mighty Mouse and Matt Hume had a conversation like, Hey, you can't just fucking half ass this anymore. Yeah. You got to be all in. Yeah. And he became all in and then became the best ever. Yeah. Yeah.