Tom Green Asks Joe Rogan About His Responsibilities As a Popular Podcaster

So you have such a huge responsibility here. You know that obviously. But because you have so many people watching this show. Okay. They're trying to freak me out, Tom Green. A little bit. You're responsible. It's all you're responsible. You're responsible for me doing this. How about that? Ultimately you. I'm like your kid. Yeah, you know, Patrice used to say that about comedians. It like imitated him. They're my babies. Patrice used to say like, like, David Tell's got a lot of babies out there. Because there's a lot of people imitating David Tell. But you have a lot of babies. And I'm one of your babies. How about that? That's very nice of you to say. That's hilarious. I'm the baby of you and Opie and Anthony and Howard Stern. Well, you know Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony got together in a gang battle with Terrence McKenna. I'm all your babies. I'm all your babies. That is very kind of you to say. I'm sitting here on your incredible show with everybody is riveted by your show. And when you say something it matters. Which is different than when you do a show on your, you know, I do a podcast now. I've got a few people listening but it's not like it doesn't matter, right? That's a responsibility. So it's a responsibility to the people listening. But you're, when you say something here, it will affect the entire society. You have people now who don't believe in the stay home order. They're out in... Well, they should. They should until the actual scientific experts tell them that they should go out. But here's the thing. Right. Who are the experts and are they different in different states? And I think that's one of the benefits of having 50 states. When I was talking about the different styles of living, Arizona lets you have a gun. Just carry it on your hip, right? You can't do that in San Francisco, right? There's different styles of living. Let's find out what different styles are the right way to reopen the world. We know the world's got to be reopened. Okay, we're not going to just stay in our house forever. We're going to run out of food. We have to do things. Right. So do we have to do things after the vaccination and can our society survive that? Do you know how many people are committing suicide right now? A friend of mine, I heard, said Nick Swartz and I said it yesterday. Sorry, Nick. He told me he was talking to this sheriff and the sheriff said they used to deal with one suicide a week. Now they're doing five a day. This is something that needs to be factored in. Right. Another thing, there's a Bloomberg, there was an article that was written that we're talking about the drop in the economy equivalent to the loss of a certain number of lives. And that every time the economy drops a certain percentage is equal to X amount of lives. We might get to a place where it's conceivable that more lives are lost because of the ensuing depression and economic shutdown than would have been lost if we didn't open up, if we didn't close down anything and we just let everybody get sick. It is a complicated thing. And this is one thing that we have to really rely on the people that are supposed to be in power to address accurately and honestly. No one knows the right way to do this. There are some real good protocols that are in place for keeping people healthy and protecting each other and staying away from each other as much as possible and wiping things down and using hand sanitizer and stopping the spread. Yes, for sure. But no one knows how to get this thing started again. No one knows what's going to happen. No one knows what the risks are. Are we going to wait? And in the meantime, what about the other diseases that are still around? What about the colds and the flus and what about all that stuff? That's tough. You know what kills more people than any of these things, including COVID-19 projections? Heart attacks. Heart attacks killing people left and right. How come there's no alarms to stop people from dying of heart attacks? Heart disease was number one. The flu and all these other things that we're all terrified of? This is lack of information, not knowing. You don't know if you can prevent this, right? You know you've eaten well, you look after yourself, you'd be less likely to have a heart attack, but you don't know if you can breathe, you can't breathe in a heart attack. Well, and then the heart attack thing is all dependent upon your genetics as well. There's some people that have a predisposition of heart attacks. But what, you know, like again, I guess I asked this already, but like that's a lot of pressure, Joe. I mean, because if you say something wrong and it's sending people, so you must, I'm just kind of curious, how much time do you spend researching? Because you know so much information. I talk out of my ass 99% of the time. You have Jamie Google things to correct me in midstream. So is it instinct? Are you able to see sort of the truth through the bullshit? And then you kind of, because I mean... Well, you sort it out in real time. Because you're walking a very fine line, then. I think you're walking it incredibly well in a way that many, many, many, many people are not, right? It seems like we're in this world now where because everything's so polarized, oh, I've got to choose to say this, because that's what everyone's saying. And they're just kind of saying it because everyone's saying it. Whereas you definitely straddle that line in a way that to me seems incredibly astute, but also must be some pressure to make sure that you're right. Not until you start telling me about it. Now I'm thinking about freaking out, Tom Green. You know, because you could easily be here and saying, hey, you should, this is bullshit. I told him he was my daddy. And now he's being like... Give me a little tap of that. I'm just trying to see. Now he's basically giving me the hard conversation. Are you going to spray down the bottle? Just want me to pour it for you? I'll pour it. Don't touch it. Yeah, okay. That'd be good. Don't be scared. Jesus Christ. I'm curious because it's fascinating to me. Thank you. How do I do that? Yeah, how do you make those determinations? Because a lot of people have made mistakes, right? A lot of commentators have made mistakes who have said things. I make mistakes, too. If you're doing 1500 whatever the fuck shows, plus fight companions and shit. I don't know. JRE MMA shows is another 50 of those at least, right? 100? Jesus. We're living the world now. You make one mistake, I take that place and they put it out there. They've already done that. That's okay. Go ahead. Keep going. Do it again. It's the number, the vast number of interactions that most people have with each other are positive, right? Otherwise, the world will be a war zone. Most of the time, you'll be like, hey, how you doing? Hey, what's up? Hey, this. The same thing with podcasts. The vast majority of the stuff that you do is going to be good. There's going to be moments where some guy, you were taking a left turn and he honked to you and you said, fuck you. And he said, no, fuck you. And like, that guy's got a bad opinion of you. You got a bad opinion of him. That's going to happen, too. Well, that's the same in podcasts. It's going to be these moments where things just fall apart or go off the rails. It's got to accept it. It is what it is. And how do you decide to not? And I don't feel like you do have an agenda to change or change things in any sort of premeditated direction. You just you're trying to be honest. People don't want. Because everyone has an agenda, right? You say this road, Nancy Pelosi, you say this about whoever on right, left, right, left. They got an agenda. Oh, I can't say this, even though I believe it, because that's not going to work with the narrative, right? That seems crazy. I don't have an agenda. Yeah. Yeah. I can tell you just want to be real. Well, I just I want to I just want to be able to talk to friends about stuff that's actually happening. That's it. But if you have an agenda, like if I have an agenda at all, I want people to do better, me included. I mean, there's one of the things that I like to do. Is that possible at this point? Sure. For sure. Everything with stand up, with archery. Yeah. I get better at playing pool tomorrow practice. Okay. I maybe get better at pool, maybe. Doing like Muay Thai, doing martial arts. Yeah. Like the more you do it, the more you think about how you're doing it and more you realize, oh, there's like a lot of stuff I could learn here. Uh-huh. That's what I want people to do. I want people to find things and try to get better at them. Doesn't mean try to be the best. Doesn't mean be obsessed with it. There's something that you get out of trying to be better. Yeah.