The Max Rohskopf Corner Incident: Should Fighters or Coaches Throw in the Towel? w/Joe Schilling

was such a fucking crazy fight. I was gonna bring this up. I'm glad you brought that up. So remember everybody's talking about this week in the fight where the Drysdale, they were telling him to stop the fight. And he was like, Drysdale's just trying to be a coach, trying to keep it going. And there's a lot of people saying if the fighter says he doesn't want to do it anymore or whatever. That's Simon Marcus fight after three rounds. And I wasn't begging my coach to stop it, but I did not want to go another fucking round. And I was like, oh, did I win? I think I have to do one more. And I'm like, fuck, I can't do one more. I don't want to do one more. I can't do one more. My coach is like, fucking, you can do it one more round. Yeah, you are right there. And we do it. This is it. Boom. Nope, that's not the punch. A lot of fighters experience that. And it's the coach's job, I think, to keep them, to try to keep them going. So I'm on Drysdale's side on that. But ultimately he didn't fight anyway. They stopped it. Right? Ultimately he did. But it was very, very controversial. But I get Drysdale's position. And listen, in retrospect, like after the conversation is over, yeah, maybe you should have called it when the guy said call it. But in the moment, he doesn't know that he can't talk to the guy in the fighting and then maybe the guy wins. Like, you don't know what a person's psychological mindset is like unless you train with that person. And there are some people that you can talk into performing better. That said, he took a lot of fucking punishment that second round, right? Maybe he knew something. Maybe it was a good thing to stop. There's some times when your body's just broken. There's some times when you shouldn't go on. And this debate, I think, is very healthy. The debate of whether or not the coach was right or whether or not the guy was right. But ultimately the guy's right because he can't go on so he doesn't. He quits. And that's his decision. Only he knows what was going on with his body. You remember when Jerro McClellan got criticized for taking a knee against Nigel Benn? I don't know if you remember it, but that's the fight that put Jerro McClellan in a coma and severely handicapped him. Jerro McClellan at the time was a fucking assassin, man. He was so scary. But he was another guy that cut way too much weight. He cut a lot of weight, man. It was hard for him. He was really big. And so when he would get into the... I forget if he's fought 168. I think he was fighting in Roy Jones' division. He's at 168 or 175. Pull up Jerro McClellan versus Nigel Benn. This was the dark destroyer because Nigel Benn was a wild ass fight too. Nigel's got crazy dreadlocks. And Jerro McClellan knocked him through the ropes in the first round because he would smash people. He would just smash people. He was such a... He was a cronk guy. So he fought like a cronk guy just moving forward behind the jab, big right hands, just nasty, vicious puncher. Well, Nigel Benn gets up and he makes it through the round and then turns into a war. And then Jerro McClellan starts getting tired and then they clash heads. And then Nigel Benn hits him with a couple punches late in the fight. And when Nigel Benn hit him... See, this is early on. I mean, this is... Go a little earlier than this so we could see this combination. But this was Jerro McClellan. And everybody was like real keen on him fighting Roy Jones Jr. This was when Roy Jones was in his prime. And this was like the big challenge was Jerro McClellan, Roy Jones Jr. Everybody was thinking that was eventually going to have to happen because Jerro was just smashing people. And Nigel Benn was tough, man. Fucking tough. But look at this. Boom, boom, boom. He's like he's out, man. And he falls through the fucking ropes. You could see he's like really out of it, but so tough and so conditioned that he makes it back. Look at that. Barely can get through the ropes. Got a lot of seconds there though, right? That's probably more than 10 seconds. So anyway... For sure. And look at the referee. There's more seconds. And Jerro's still teeing off on him. And Nigel survives. It doesn't seem like he's going to survive, but he fucking survives. So then late in the fight, Nigel's making a comeback. So scooch way ahead here. And when Nigel starts teeing off on Jerro, then Jerro's punches are coming real slow and he's getting tired. And Nigel starts connecting. And I mean, the crowd is going fucking bananas. It is a wild ass fight. And at one point in time, they headbutt and then Nigel hits him with some punches and McClellan takes a knee. And everybody's like, I can't believe this. He's going to quit. He's going to quit. And then he goes to his corner and then he slumps and goes unconscious. He knew something was wrong. And anybody that criticizes in the moment, they were saying, I can't believe he's doing this. I can't believe he's fucking... He's just going to quit. But he knew something was really off. Only the fighter knows. I mean, maybe it's psychological, but maybe something's wrong, man. Maybe he can't think. Maybe his brain is just fucked. Maybe he knows he's not going to be able to punch right. Maybe he knows. There it is. So he goes down and just decides to stay down. He's like, something is fucking really wrong. He's like out of it. And you see, this is, I mean, Jerro, he just looks... It looks wrong. Something looks wrong. He's hurt bad and Nigel Ben is moving in for the fucking kill. And he drops in there with an uppercut and this is where he quits. See, now this is where, like you see him, he's struggling, man. But if I remember correctly, the commentators were shocked that he decided to stay down. He's quit. So they said it that way. And I think they were expressing some shock that he quit and pretty pumped that Nigel Ben beat him. But they didn't know. And Jerro McClellan, that injury scared the fuck out of everybody because he was one of the golden guys. He was one of the guys that everybody was excited about. It was like if that happened today to Ryan Garcia or someone like that, someone who's real exciting, up and coming dude, someone who's Canelo. Like if Canelo just, I guess Canelo is a bigger star than Jerrold. But when someone who's of that nature, like an elite, super elite fighter, winds up going into a coma like that, that's fucking terrifying shit. And he came out of it okay? No, he didn't. No, he died. No, he's all fucked up. Oh really? Yeah, he can't see. And there's been some videos of Roy Jones Jr. visiting him. But apparently that was responsible for Roy Jones kind of altering his style and being very safety first and really just thinking about eventually getting out of the sport, which is ironic because he wound up fighting later and later and later into his life. He had his last fight just a couple of years ago.