The Aftermath of the 2020 Election

My worry about this Biden thing is that people voted for Biden because they hate Trump. They didn't vote for Biden because he's a leader that they respect and they want and they admire and he's going to lead us out of it. Like if Obama was calling for unity, if he was the guy that was the president and he was calling for unity, we've got to abandon all these ideas, you know, about division. We're all together. And he brought everybody together again. That might work. That might work. People might recognize that this really intelligent guy with this message of unity should be listened to. Well, but that did happen, right? I mean, that happened in 2008. That's what Obama said when he won. And there was some decent amount of unity. I think he had over 70% approval rating when he first came in. I mean, it wasn't certainly anything like the country is now. But at the end of eight years of Obama, you had a Republican House, a Republican Senate and Donald fucking Trump elected president. So we had that, but it didn't matter because even with such a charismatic guy like Obama calling for unity and saying a lot of the right things, at least at first, the policies and what was actually happening in the country were really fucking over huge numbers of people. And then also things that might have been somewhat out of Obama's control, but not completely out, is that the era of it was like like the Obama recovery, which was the most crony is corrupt recovery ever. And the woke lecturing all rose up at the same time in the Obama years. Not all of it his fault, but some of it is. Do you see that Kamala Harris has her gender pronouns in her bio? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's I saw her say that in a CNN town hall when she was still running for president. She came out and just no one even asked her. She just went, I'm Kamala Harris. My genders are she her. No. What the fuck is going on? No. Do you see what Yannis Pappas wrote? No. He wrote my gender is he, he's like, I'm going to start a trend here. I recognize as he, he, he, he, he, he. That's great. I might take that on too. I might. I might do that. He, he, he, he, he. I like it. It's a very strange, strange. There it is. I would say the bio. He highly. Sciences and journalist. He wrote, ah, the fucking great. It's hilarious. Hmm. Hmm. I think though people like they, if you really did care about unity or whatever, which I think is like something that maybe we should care about a little bit. I mean, not that we all have to like a green on everything, or I don't like this. We don't have to all be one and all have the same, you know, attitude about everything. But when you see what's going on in the country over this year, the culture war shit is really scary. And like people should be appropriately concerned about that. When you see what's going on in like, was going on in Portland this year, where you had like the fucking, you know, like militias facing off against each other. You have like the Antifa versus the Proud Boys type shit. It's like, it's like they're playing pretend civil war. You know, like it's kind of a game. They're larping. Right, but it's kind of not that far off. Right, because people got shot and killed. Yeah. And there are people on guns staring each other down. And for everybody, for every sane person, should be like, you do not want to see a civil war in this fucking country. I don't care how much fun you think this is right now in the moment. You don't want this to actually come to you holding your buddy's head while he bleeds out and screams for his mom. Like you don't want that. So the idea of toning that down is a good idea. But I think the only way to do that is to understand why Donald Trump was president to begin with. And that like, to me, the big story of all of this isn't that Joe Biden looks like he's gonna be the president. That's kind of boring to me. It's like, yeah, Joe Biden got elected. He's been getting elected for fucking almost 50 years. Like, okay. The story is still that Donald Trump won the presidency. And then four years later got like millions more votes than he got the first time. And almost by a hair, almost won it again. I mean, that's like pretty fucking crazy. Did you see when he was in Pennsylvania and he drew 53,000 people to Israeli in central Pennsylvania and they start off the first like four minutes of it are a chant, we love you. We love you. I mean, like, what the fuck is that? What's going on here? And to just kind of dismiss it, like the corporate press attitude is like, well, it's racism. I think there's a little bit more. Failure of the education system. I mean, I always agree with failure of the education system. That is always an acceptable answer. But I think a big part of it. It's a rejection of looting. It's a rejection of the woke culture. It's a rejection of being called a racist and being called a fascist. That's a big part of that. It's a lot of this call for a radical shift in the identity of America. Well, I think that's a huge part of it. I also think that if you're, the woke lecturing is almost like just the insult on top. Like if you're one of these people who lives in these towns, you've seen for decades now, like factories disappear, jobs get outsourced, the life expectancy has gone down, suicides have gone up. You're one of these, some guy in central Pennsylvania or all over the country. And what, you probably lost your job. Now you're working a shittier job. You never really came back from where you were after 2008. Maybe you got a son who's addicted to opioids. You got another son who like, has never been the same since he got back from one of these stupid wars. And then after all that, the people who sent you there are now lecturing you about your white privilege. And then Donald Trump, all it really took was Donald Trump came in and said, you know what, I'm for you. Yeah. I'm for you. I'm not for the Mexicans or the Muslims. I'm not for this woke shit. I'm for you. And I want you to win. And that's like- It's a simplistic message. Sure. And that's one of the things that he got across. He boiled down the whole thing to like make America great again. Like that's a simplistic message. And to people that want to sort of like, they really, you know, some country music songs, by the way, I'm a fan of country music. I like a lot of country music, but a lot of country music I don't like because I know what you're doing. You're just trying to box everything into this real simple. We're going to go down to the lake. We're going to have ourselves a drink. You know what I'm saying? We're going to take my truck. Everything's going to be great. You know, I miss my grandma. Like there's like this simplistic, really boiled down worldview. And it comforts people because people are scared of nuance and they're scared of the complexity of life. Yes. And Donald Trump was a master at that. Boiling things down to a real simple slogan, a real, you know, simple phrase that people can wrap their heads around and get behind. But there's also that on the opposition to Trump side, where they try to boil things down to like, well, it was racism or it was white supremacy or something like that. And you're like, there's a lot more going on here. And I really think that if like, these people on some level recognize that they've been screwed over by the establishment, forgotten by them, and that they are hated by the establishment, which is true. Like they're right about that. And so they wanted someone to fight for them. And I think Trump represents that to them. I don't think he really was that from my perspective. I think he's kind of a con artist, but I do think that he tapped into something that's really powerful and that actually could get a lot worse if there's not some kind of like reconciling with it. Yeah. How does it get better now? That's the real question. Like, because what, like, how does it get better with Biden and Kamala Harris? I mean, unless people start rejecting, unless people realize that things aren't gonna change for the better with them in office. Well, that's, I think that is, that realization is gonna come soon. About a year and a half now. Yeah, something like that maybe. Maybe even sooner, because things go, things move fast these days. But I do think that, one of the things that's interesting with Biden and Kamala Harris is that a lot of these like super progressive people are celebrating right now because Trump was out, and so Trump was defeated. And they feel like they helped get Biden and Kamala Harris and they were certainly a portion of helping them. And then Trump also is the one who is saying like, well, you know, Joe Biden, he's just a Trojan horse for AOC and Ilhan Omar. He's a Trojan horse for socialism, which is actually complete bullshit. Joe Biden, if anything, is a Trojan horse for Dick Cheney. Joe Biden is a Trojan horse for the establishment, Warhawks, big banks, corporate elite, tech giants. All of those people. But what are the people who are filling his cabinet with? Yeah, it's gonna be them. He's filling his cabinet with Republicans. But those Republicans. The ones who basically caused this whole mess to begin with. One of the things that Trump said during his campaign, he's saying, talking about how much money that Joe Biden raised, he said, I could raise that money too, but I'd have to make those deals and then I'd have to be compromised. And when he was saying that, I was like, he's right. He's not wrong about that one. He's not wrong about that because if he decided to play ball with all those guys, like they would have got behind him, the narrative would have switched. Yeah, that's for sure. And it's interesting. It's a really important question that people might wanna ponder. Even people who really hate Donald Trump, and you can really hate Donald Trump, that's fine. But you might wonder why it is that the establishment hates him so much. And my guess is that it's not for the same reasons that your left-wing friend hates Donald Trump. Like I don't buy for a fucking second that the CIA and the Republican establishment hated Donald Trump because he said mean things about Mexicans. Like I just don't buy that for a fucking second. These are people who will slaughter brown people in third world countries and lose no sleep over it. Like I don't buy that's why they hated him. I think what they hated about Donald Trump was that he was a wild man who would blurt out things. And he'd blurt out a lot of crazy shit, but then he'd also blurt out the truth. And that was something that nobody, you're not supposed to say that. Like when Donald Trump was running in 2016, he stood at the Republican primary debate stage in South Carolina, Republicans in South Carolina, and looked at Jeb Bush in the eyes and said, your brother lied us into war in Iraq. And everyone was like, what the fuck? Like you can't say that at the Republican South Carolina and all the pundits, all the media class, they were like Trump's finished now. Because you can't, these are the people who fought the war in Iraq. And these are the most pro-military people around. And the next day at the primary, Donald Trump took 60% and all the other Republicans, all 12 of them split the other 40%. Episodes of the Joe Rogan experience are now free on Spotify. That's right, they're free from September 1st to December 1st. They're gonna be available everywhere. 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