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Steve Schirripa is an American actor, producer, author, and voice artist. He is best known for portraying Bobby Baccalieri on The Sopranos and Detective Anthony Abetemarco on Blue Blood.
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Michael Imperioli is an American actor, writer and director, best known for his role as Christopher Moltisanti in the HBO crime drama The Sopranos, which earned him the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series in 2004.
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When you see that Academy Awards speech, thank you compilation, where all the people go up, all the various people that eventually talk shit about him go up and praise Harvey Weinstein. I never saw it. Oh my god, it's so bizarre. It's so strange. Because they were intimidated. He had that much power over people's careers and they didn't feel like their voice would be heard or that people would, you know, take them seriously. He would know it. That he'd find a way to fuck you, basically. Fuck you up. He would know me. He would know me every three or four times. Like I run into him in Madison Square Garden and there's a restaurant, Trebecco Grill, which he had owned a piece of at one point and give you a half ass hello, maybe. He was way above. I was beneath him. He never got punched in the face. Is that what it is? I heard Jason Priestley punched him in the face. Jason Priestley? Had a party. Yeah. Yeah. I heard that. I heard him in the face. Wow. I think nobody beat the shit out of Harvey Weinstein and it wouldn't be that difficult. He could fucking holly breathe. He's smoking, chain smoking. He wasn't a tough guy. He was tough with assistance, you know. But he does. Like if you thought about a character in a film, Harvey Weinstein is almost too on the head. Almost unbelievable. Nobody would, nobody would do that. He would never get away with all that. Too much, too much. How many years has he been doing this? How many years has he been doing this? 20 something years. Is it? He's been doing this for 20 something years. And might be more, right? They've got cases in LA. Well, there's way more cases. Yeah, there's way more cases. This is just what he's been convicted for. I mean, he apparently was behaving like that for decades. So you're telling me nobody knew? They knew. They all knew. That's what's crazy is it's worked into his fucking contract. His contract had, if you get this amount, this amount of sexual, like per sexual harassment case, they had it that he would have to pay this much. If it was two, he'd have to pay that much. If it was three hit, imagine if you're signing up for a place like Steve, I know you're a piece of shit. So this is what we're going to work into the contract. All your piece of shit behavior, we're going to write it down and you're going to be penalized per piece of shit behavior. I didn't know that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing. It's fine. You know what I'm saying? They're all complicit. This is something that I don't understand. These assistants, people in his office, people that knew this stuff, that saw this stuff, that set them up, that he was meeting the girl in the lobby. Then she comes down and says, oh, Harvey needs to meet you up in his room. She was part of it, or he, or whatever the assistants were. It was like, I mean, I would never do that. They'd never play dumb. Yeah, I would never be privy to that. No, of course not. But you also, you don't have to. And when you think of an assistant in particular, you're thinking about someone who has virtually no power, and there's a thing called diffusion of responsibility, where there's too many people involved. You don't feel like you're responsible. You don't feel like you, you know, that's when they say it's easier to assault someone in front of 100 people than it is to assault someone in front of one person. Because one person might step in and stop you, but 100 people will sit around and go, someone's got to stop this. Gotcha. You know, and that's, I think that when you're an assistant, you're probably, you're working check to check. You got this guy who's the king of Hollywood. He's a fucking, he's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Intimidating you. Yes, and he's a big, angry guy, yells at people. He yells. You know, what's amazing to me is people still haven't come forward, people that worked with him, actors, whatever, actresses. I think they're still afraid somehow he's going to come back, like in a horror film. Keeps on. He's dead. Some people don't. They don't want to deal with that publicly, you know. It's a hard thing to talk about. They don't want everybody to know. I think you're right. And I think also they feel like you got it. No, I don't mean people that he assaulted, just people that were around him, that were aware. I just think they don't want to talk about it publicly. I think you're right about that. I think it's, they've already, he's already been caught. It's over. They got him. He's in jail. He'll be in jail forever. He's fucked up. His body's falling apart. He can't even walk. I mean, it's punishment. What a fall from grace. It's spectacular fall. In just a few years. I mean, if you go back seven years ago, there's not a whisper to this, right? So seven years later, the guy's in jail, can't walk. You know, his body's falling apart. That's where he just got to get somebody to give him the cyanide pill and fuck it. Should have done that. Look, he had to know where this was going when he was free. Should have just fucking. I don't think he did know. I think he thought he was going to get off and he was planning a comeback and he was not deluded. But you know, I know one of his attorneys that was there early on and he fired him and I ran into him right before he got sentenced a few weeks before and I said, this fucking Harvey's going to get off. And he said, nah, nah, nah. You see, he won't get off. If he would have kept me, he said, if he would have kept me, I would have got him off. He said, how would he have gotten him off? I didn't go. You know, I mean, I know the guy acquaintance from the Nick games and sure enough, he got what, 23 years? It seems like things happen in the court of public opinion on guys like that. Well, it certainly did. I would have just, there's no way I would want to be. What kind of life is that? He's such a character. I mean, just with his disgusting face and his body and like everything about it. Powerful, horrible. Yeah. You had some dealings with him, right? Yeah, I did a couple of jobs with him. I did it. I wrote a script for him. I had to work with him kind of closely on that. Did he try to grab you? No. Try to grab me. What was he like? You know, he was okay with me. You know, he had opinions. He was all right. I mean, it was just work. There was nothing. I mean, obviously. No, no, it was only in his office and stuff. I did it and I did a job for his brother, another job for his brother. I think his brother was a nicer guy, right? He was okay. I think he was very intimidated by Harvey. I think Harvey was bullied. It was brother big time. It's such a fascinating story because it's incredible. And the wife and the two kids and a beautiful wife was crazy. It's like, how the fuck does that even happen? And it's one of those things that if it's in a film, it's almost like he's too much of a villain. Yeah. That would never happen. All the details, when you put it all together, you're like, no, really? In Hollywood where he's famous and then he's dealing with the most famous people in the world. Right. And everybody keeps their mouth shut and he fucks A-list stars and then puts them in films. Do you think that some of the women that have denied having sex with them had sex with them? Yes. You do? Yes. I wondered about that. I would have probably. I would have talked to him. No, I wouldn't have talked about it if I did. Exactly. I don't know. Do you want to talk about that? That's hard shit to talk about. No, I understand. But the thing about Harvey Weinstein and people like that, if he would have said, listen, I'm a fat, disgusting bastard, but if you bang me, I'll put you in the next movie. They wouldn't line up. There would be people lined up around the corner. I think that is part of what he did. No, no. I don't know if that's true. From what I understand. I don't think he needed to do this. I think it's his ego. I think that's too. Like Bill Cosby was the same thing. Yes. It becomes a pathology. And I think there's also a thing about power. It's a power thing to have power over people. And also to have power over these beautiful actresses that everybody else was lusting over. You put some actress in a film and she's the center of everyone's attention. She's got a small dress on. She walks into a room and the whole place lights up and she's sucking Harvey's dick. It's the power thing. Because he could have had tons of women. I could have had a ton of women. I think it's an addiction thing too. I think if you, there was a recording of this one girl that he had groped and then she wanted a movie role and he's grabbing her and he's like, just come back to my place. Come on, come on, come on. You're hearing it like a guy asking for heroin. And he was almost sniveling, like begging her. It was weird. Like he'd go from being really intimidating to almost begging like pity me. I need you. Please don't embarrass me. You know, it was very weird. Yeah I think it's an addiction thing. I think there was so much going on with that guy. I mean he had two young, I don't know if they're daughters. Do you have two young daughters? I think he has older kids, younger kids. He had his wife and they were just gone. Right? Or maybe unless he just said... That's a rough truth. Or maybe once he just said I'm going away, I mean I don't know if they visited him or what. Jesus Christ. It's all crazy. It's a Shakespearean story. Yes, it is. Epic proportions. A horror story for everyone involved. Well it's the casting couch in Hollywood. If you stop and think about it, right, you've got all these women that want to be in films, they want to be stars, then you've got these guys that can actually help them, make them stars but they want something. And then you set up this dynamic that's existed since, you know, the fucking twenties. Imagine what it was like back then. Oh my God. Well, you know the fatty Arbuckle story? Yeah. Did you read the book, The I Fatty, that Jerry Stahl wrote? No. It's fantastic. Yeah? It's kind of almost like a fake memoir written from his point of view. It's brilliant. Well... He was like, he was the biggest star of his day. Yes. He was a world known all over the world. Yeah. I mean he was basically like, he was a comedy star, a huge star, and he did something with a woman where he stuck like a bottle up her vagina. Well, this goes into it. Apparently there's theories that he didn't really do that, that it was set up, that the guy was jealous of him like a studio guy. Yeah. It goes into that. It's a really good book. Jerry Stahl wrote permanent midnight, you know, he did that guy. Oh, okay. That's a great book. Is there real evidence that points to the fact that he was set up? There is. Oh, Jesus Christ. And that was the end of his career? Oh yeah. Done. Done. Done. Oh. Yeah. That's awful. Yeah. There's different theories that he was set up by somebody and that all that was just... Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine that. That's crazy. Well, I can tell you the world is a better place with Harvey Weinstein off the streets. Well, he doesn't. Honestly, what he did to all these actresses and women and assistants, just horrible. Not sexually, but he destroyed guys too, you know, and directors and just a horrible human and Jesus. Well, he was getting away with it, right? For the longest time. For the longest time. Behavior that was reinforced by the people around him and then he got away with it. What's also interesting is like, if you help someone murder somebody, you would get an accessory. You would get prison time. There would be charges, but there's no charges against any of the people that absolutely knew what he was doing. No. But that's what I'm saying. I have two daughters. Eighty and abetting? Yes. I have two daughters in their twenties. I don't think my daughter's in a million years, no matter how much they wanted to be in the business would be an accomplice to that and tell the girl and say, well, Harvey's going to be up in the room or whatever. It's crazy things. Go get Harvey's medicine to fucking inject his dick or something. Yeah. Come on. Do you know what he had? This is, I was going on this text thread with a bunch of comics. He had a type of gangrene that you get from diabetes on his dick. Jesus Christ. His dick was horribly malformed. So I had this, we were talking about this and then I Googled it and then I said to my friends, do not Google this. And then they're like, why not? So they send them a photo of it. Horrible. Of what it looked like. Oh my God. It's like your genitals just rot away. Like all the skin around it rotted away. And that was one of the things that one of the actresses had said is that she thought that he was maybe intersex or transgender or that he had a vagina because he was so scarred up. Oh my God. So it's like, it's again, it's almost too on the head. Like as a movie character, he's almost too disgusting. Well, what do you see playing him in this movie? Hmm. That'd be a good question. Who could pull it off? Christian Bale. I've gained the weight. I hope they don't make the movie. How's that? I don't want to see that move. If nothing else, lifetime. They're going to make the movie. They'll do it on a lifetime. Yeah.