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Iliza Shlesinger is a comedian, actor, writer, and host of the podcast "Ask Iliza Anything." Her new book, "All Things Aside: Absolutely Correct Opinions," and her new Netflix special, "Hot Forever," both premiere on October 11. www.iliza.com
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I was reading something that there's a lot of women who are taking some new, there's some like an injection that kills your appetite and they're doing it, what is it called? I actually know exactly what you're talking about because someone... What is it called? It mimics had you had like the stomach surgery, like in terms of appetite curbing. Right. Just because yesterday someone told me that someone they know got it. They were talking about the Kardashians and they were talking about how they lose all this weight like the larger girl, what did you call it? Chloe. They were saying that she's always had a problem with weight, now she's ripped and that this is what these people are taking. She's larger. You know the conspiracy on that one is? She's OJ Simpson's daughter? Yeah, that's a conspiracy. I don't, yeah, I buy it. I'd like to get a strand of her hair and run it through a lab. I bet you can. They'd sell it to you. How much? I don't know, probably a million... You said to brush up against her. True, you probably couldn't get that close. No, security attack with you. There's that fine line, you know, as a woman, it's like you don't want to win or whatever. I have an issue with that whole family's ethos. There were parts of them that I thought were so good, the older parts. And I guess at the end of the day, this goes back to, you know, you can't have someone be your end all, be all, like whatever they do. They seem sad. And they live in this bubble. They probably have a lot of yes people. I think as a consumer, put on your fucking hat and realize like these people are not... They're selling you tummy teeth, detox teeth, waist trainers. These are people that are deeply unhappy with their bodies, as most women are, but they're not... You don't have access to the same things they do. So you can work out and diet all you want. You're never going to look like that. And I think that's really hard for people to wrap their mind around when you look at Instagram and stuff. It's really, there's that disconnect, that cognitive disconnect of like, no one looks like that, but I sure would like to try. And this is not a happy person, but this is also a person who's been called the larger one and ugly and all these things her whole life. So that's probably... This is larger. She is larger. Psychologically, it's not your fault. Psychologically damaging, but... This shot works. I can't believe people... She's ripped now. I have it. I can't believe people keep buying into this. Is it that? Is it that NFT? Are you worried about... No, I'm bringing it in. But is it... Is your appetite bothering you? No, it wasn't that. It's called... I believe this is what it's called instead of looking it up. Semaglutide is the actual drug, but there's other names for it. Right there. How many times the Kardashians tried to sell us? I was trying to see if this is what you were actually talking about with them. That is semaglutide is what I read. Yeah. No, I think I asked them for weight loss something because of the stuff I was taking. I was like, I should be losing weight. And they were like, oh, take this. Well, what are you eating, buddy? No, I changed my diet a little bit. First of all, you're not big. You're not a big boy. That's why I haven't taken it yet at all either. Can I say he's a big boy? Is that all right? You can say he's a big boy. You can say big boy. You can say big girl. Big boy's a little... Yeah, it's less offensive. You can say big girl. Some people are... My thing about the Kardashians is, this is my take, it's like human beings should have personal sovereignty. And someone shouldn't influence you that much. If that bothers you so much that they're materialistic and that they get their butts done, that's on you. And the problem though is I'm saying this as a 55-year-old wealthy man and I'm not influenced by them. But if I was a young girl and I looked to them as being the... That's one of the things that really fucks with people on social media is that you're looking at other people as... These are examples of what's ideal. And then if your body doesn't match that, if your lifestyle doesn't match that, and then you have this horrible feeling that you're not valuable, you're not worthy. And so the problem is that a lot of people look to these very wealthy people with all this plastic surgery is that that is the highest level of achievement because these are the most popular people, the most social media, and the most money, and it influences people in a negative way. I agree with all of it. I agree with all of it. If you're younger, that's not your fault that you are looking at that. If you are older, and we'll say like if you're in your 30s, you have seen this family in particular, but just in general, you've seen social media grow and you've seen this family grow, and you've seen all of the snake oil over all this time. So for you to be surprised or let down at this point is really more an indictment on your intelligence. Really? Like you think the family that would sell their own children for money, you think the family that sold you tummy tea and diarrhea pills, you think of it... Diarrhea pills? Diarrhea pills. Do they really have diarrhea pills? I think their detox tea gives you diarrhea. That's how you detox, you take a shit. I don't think that's the mechanism involved in detoxification. Detox tea. But you would also not take... That's why it's not real. But what is it? Tummy teas, they make you take a dump. I literally have never heard people say tummy tea. The most thought I've given to it is saying those words. I've never thought about it at all. Chances are it involves taking a shit. Do you know what it is? Even the semi-glute tight is going to make you have diarrhea. What do you think these times? I got to escape from somewhere. You've got to go somewhere. You're not sweating out the fat like someone putting in work. But tummy tea, is that real? What the fuck does that do? Does it really just kill your appetite? This was like early 2000s Instagram marketing tummy tea. These are like detox teas, and these family hair gummies, everything, they push... Hair gummies. Make your hair grow. They sell everything. Hair probably actually does help the health of hair. You can take biotin. I take biotin, I'm never going to have lustrous pony hair. It will grow in. I have a baby, so it's like... You know what I look like? All the hairs in the front broke. You know how Puerto Rican guys get the Caesar? It's a very Guido look? That's what I have. A full Caesar in the front. Nice. Here's your hair breaks. It will never look great, no matter how much biotin I take. So I think at a certain age it's on you. If you're still looking at these petulant women as some sort of inspiration, that's on you. Yeah. Yeah, I think so too. But I think you're right about young people. The thing that's fucked is that empty pursuit of fame for no reason. It used to be that if someone... If you were younger and you look to some celebrity that was a singer, Beyonce, or whoever it was, you're like, God, I wish I was like her. Right. And it's like putting out this incredible work of art that affects millions of people. They dance to it. They sing to it. It's very inspirational and aspirational. God, that would be amazing to be like her. She inspired me to get into music. She inspired me to pursue my dreams. But when the dreams are just making money and sticking your ass out and just taking these doctored pictures. I don't feel the need to defend this family. The one thing I will say, you have someone, however this came about, made a sex tape with a guy she was dating. And that guy's obviously a scumbag. I can respect that she didn't just lay down, and I'm saying this is a joke, and take it. That tape leaked or however they got a hold of it, this was gonna be used against her. This guy had the tape and he's had other tapes. And to pivot, because there are plenty of people who have leaked sex tapes that have not risen like a Phoenix, right? I can be okay with that, and I can be okay with it, and I will say this. And I feel like we talked about this on the podcast, but if you are not real thin, if you have thighs, if you are ... And this is for a lot of women of color in particular, but even if you're just a white girl and you don't have Nordic model boy hips, these women sort of champion dressing for your curves. And when you don't see a reflection ... I'm a white upper middle class woman and I still almost brought to tears when I put on jeans because my thighs are a little big. So they kind of made it okay, and I can respect that. But anything else, I'm just appalled at them. But I can respect making it okay if you have naturally the curvy body that they have surgery to get. If you have a body like that, I can respect creating a place where as a girl you might feel okay about the body that you have. The fucked up thing about that whole skinny look, like really scrawny look that some women think is attractive, like men don't think it's attractive. That's not something that guys like in general. It actually has less to do with guys and more to do with an inculcation of an ideal of brainwashing that is hard to unscrub. And it has to do ... I mean it's deeply- Doesn't it differ from modeling photos? Because models- Models hang. They're like hangers. The clothing hangs and a lot of gay guys model and they model women's bodies after boys' bodies, right? This is all about how the clothes will hang and it's so built into our society to be smaller, which ties to feminism and making yourself smaller. But I cannot, even though I love my body, I look at those women and I'm like, that's what you want. Really skinny? I'll never have it. It doesn't matter. But most women, it's just a brainwashing thing. You can't get out of that? You can acknowledge that that's unattainable. And I talked about this on my standup forever ago. Every girl looks at her body, you're like, I just want to lose five pounds. Even if you don't need to. It's a thing. And it has less to do with being attractive to a man and just being acceptable. And most men, good guys, they don't think about women. I always try to explain to women what you're putting your body through and what you're putting yourself through mentally with thinking you're unacceptable. Most men aren't looking at you like that. You at your worst, your husband's probably still like, that looks really good, right? If your wife didn't shave her legs perfectly, are you going to leave the room? No. And I think this has to do with self-esteem and the way that we educate women and the disinformation about their bodies. Vaginas, thighs, hips, all that stuff that good men don't actually care about all that bullshit.