Roseanne on the Hawaii Telescope Protests | Joe Rogan

And they did it... People were mad in Hawaii over that movie, Moana, which is my favorite movie. I've seen it ten times. Why were they mad? Well, some of them were mad the activist sort. But the Rock is Hawaiian. No, I know. No, he's the big guy. He's Pacific Islander. Oh, okay. But anyway... But he grew up in Hawaii, right? I can't remember the story. I believe he did. Well, whatever. He's fucking gorgeous. And so is Jason Manoa. Fuck. Manoa, yeah. Manoa. God damn it. Anyway, so every... Those are like, yes, I'm real. That is pulkritude. Yeah, for sure. That's male pulkritude right there. Some cheesecake and beefsteak and pulkritude. It's like, whoa, would you love to see them bear naked? Have you been paying attention to the controversy about building that new telescope in Hawaii? Oh, of course. I prayed against it. Did you? They came to me, you know, this is something that shouldn't be told, so I'll tell it. And I said, don't worry about it, sis. I'm putting in the Jew 2 cents on this here. You don't want them to build the telescope? Well, not on the people's holy place. So I went out there and I done some prayers for direction. And it stopped three days later. And now it's back on, but all the people went up there. But I like to say to the people, I'm glad you got the telescope. I say this, and everybody hates me. It's okay, but I just have to say, maybe the telescope, which will be the new eye to behold the entire universe, which will create like a different kind of a human mind forever, maybe that should be there. I don't know. Well, it's a very unique place in terms of where it sits. Well, it's where Pele is. That's where Pele was born. And the Hawaiian people, they say, they believe that they came out of that mountain, you know. And that's their, what do you call it? Their genesis is that particular Mauna Kea, Mother Mountain. So they don't want anything built on there. Maybe there's some sort of a compromise because the idea of that place is that it's in a very unique place on earth to view the cosmos. Have you been to the Keck Observatory? I've never gone there because I, you know, I should. It's amazing. It's amazing. The view up there, it changes your place, like your idea of your place in the world. The first time I saw it was- We're so visual beings. Yes. That, you know what changed me are those round, the round films about the wall of China. Seeing that in those, whatever those places are, those theaters. So the IMAX. Yeah. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, those gigantic theaters where everything's around you. Yeah, you get to see it visually. Yeah. Well, the Keck, I've been to it a few times, but one time I caught it perfectly where there was no moon out and the sky was clear and it was unbelievably beautiful. You see the whole Milky Way. You see all the stars. The entire sky is filled with stars. It didn't even seem real. And it just makes you feel like you're looking through the windshield of a spaceship flying to the cosmos. Well, there's this app you can get to that will chart the stars for you. And it's so cool. And if you hold your phone up, which I fill up in my pool and you hold it up there and then you look and it's like, yeah, there's this, you know, whatever they're called, I can't remember. I had a similar app. Maybe it's the same one. There's the spot constellation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's incredible. It is incredible. There's nothing like seeing it. And yet all of that pales when it comes to me thinking about me. Isn't that funny? It's just so incredible that it works like that. Well, that's one of the things that helps people think about their place in the world. When you see something as magnificent and enormous as the Milky Way and all the, I mean, you see the Milky Way is so clear that it doesn't even look real. I've only caught it like that once. The other two times that I went there was still beautiful. You can see the magic. See everything. The other two times that I went, it was still beautiful, but not as stunning as the one time where I caught it. One time I messed up and I got there and it was a full moon. It was a mess. You couldn't hardly see anything. When the other time was really cloudy, it was hard to see. But the one time I saw it, it was just, oh, to this day, I think back on it. It blows me away because it really shifted in a real tangible way. The way I viewed people on a planet in space. It's just undeniable because it's so gorgeous and so epic. It's centering your eye and expanding your whole mind and consciousness. And that does something to your big ass program DNA shit. Once the eye sees it and takes it in, it's like the image. Once the image is digested, the image, they say, where does it stop being that and become this? All that integration, that's the word. Integration, yeah. In the mind. I think that lack of ability to see that is one of the things that's really screwed us up more than anything about modern civilization with all our lights, our street lights and city lights. You can't see the sky anymore. When there's no lights at all, then you see all the stars. And then you realize, oh, we're in space. We're in space. This is just the nighttime. I'm not just in Manhattan looking at the sky. No, we're in space. When you have a full blackout in a place like Manhattan, and all of a sudden you look at the sky, you're like, what is going on? All these stars have been here the whole time, but you could never see them. Light pollution. It's a terrible thing. Oh, I never heard a put like that. Light pollution is a terrible thing that we've done. We've denied people the view of the most gorgeous thing in all of the universe, the universe itself. There's a lot of beautiful things. Well, they say they put up those lights to help the homeless so, you know, they don't get raped and murdered. That's what San Francisco did. San Francisco. That's what San Francisco did to help the homeless.