Reacting to Andrew Tate's Arrest

What do you think of all his stuff? I don't know what's happening, right? Like what really happened and why is Romania going after him? Are they being pressured by someone else to do this? Like what is the reason why they're doing it and what do they have on him? I don't know. Yeah, well that to me is the right answer. Nobody knows. A lot of people are acting like they know if you go real. Well they want him. This is crazy. They want him to go down and they want him. He represents something. He represents toxic masculinity. Well he is sort of toxic. I mean he's a crazy spot. They seize his car collection as investigation continues. The one thing I don't get about this, well I do get I understand, people are actually like want the charges to be true which is crazy because that would mean a lot of bad shit to what happened to a lot of bad people. Yeah I would rather the charges be incorrect. You know look, Romania, I don't know what their system is like. I don't know whether they're corrupt. I've heard things but I don't know. I don't have any real information. So I'd be talking out of my ass to say you know if he really did like sex traffic people, if he really did all the things he's saying, well I hope that gets proven in court and I hope he gets punished if he really did that. If he didn't do that, I hope he gets exonerated and I hope he gets the fuck out of Romania. I don't know. I don't know what he did. I know a lot of what he does is theater, right? A lot of what he does is very like satire. He plays the role of this boastful misogynist who smokes cigars and drives Lamborghinis and that's his thing. And because of that he's amassed an amazing amount of money and he's done it by doing this character, this online persona but then also says very wise things. He says ridiculous shit but also says really interesting things. He's a very smart guy. If you listen to him being interviewed by Patrick Bette David. Patrick Bette David interviewed him after he got canceled off of all social media and Patrick is fantastic. He's really good at letting people talk and talking to everybody and Patrick is so wealthy and so successful outside of the world of podcasting that he only does it because he's interested in him. And so he's the perfect guy to handle that because he does not afraid to talk to anybody. He'll talk to anybody. And so he had him on for a long form conversation. They talk for hours and you get to see this is a very intelligent and calculated guy. You might not agree with his message. You might not agree with all the misogynist stuff. You might not agree with it and I don't agree with it. You might not agree with all the crazy antics but you cannot deny that that's been incredibly successful because it resonates with a lot of young men who don't feel represented in the media. And they see this guy and it looks like fun. Do they agree with what he's saying? That doesn't mean they agree with it. It's fun. It's like pro wrestling. He's like a bad guy in pro wrestling. He's a heel. He's smoking cigars at his Lamborghinis. See that's where I go. I think there's probably a lot of people think that and then I think there's probably other people who take it seriously which is where that's where it's a super. That is where it gets fucked up. Where it gets fucked up is like young boys repeating the shit that he's saying to young girls because they think that they're supposed to do that. He's property and he owns them which is nuts. So you hope people are like oh that's an act. The one thing I will say for an intelligent guy which I agree with you he is to be doing the things he's being accused of doing and then go seek publicity is a very unwise move. If he did the things that he did. Correct. Then you would think if you're committing atrocities you would try to stay under the radar he does quite the opposite. Yeah but again we don't know. Nobody knows. That's the problem. That's like the pizza thing. The pizza box. I don't know if you saw that. Everybody saying he got busted because of the pizza box and then the authorities like that had nothing to do with it. No they knew he was in Romania. It was just what's that word? Shotten frog? Shotten fruit. Shotten fruit. That's what it was like he's making fun of Greta Thurnberg and then he gets fucking arrested right afterwards. It's kind of hilarious. Yeah. The way it happens like people said it's the biggest like self-owned. The biggest tweet or retweet. It was Greta. I mean it was okay. It's kind of funny when she said that's what happens you don't recycle your pizza boxes. That shit's hilarious. That was good. Chad that shit's hilarious. You got to give it to her. Look and also like why are you going after some 19 year old autistic rose really into climate change. I tried to like figure out whether that was provoked. Like he just did that out of the blue. Yeah. Yeah he's just talking shit. Now again that move from somebody who's being accused of sex trafficking I think rape was thrown in there and then you're out there being like look at me look at me crazy again but what you said nailed it nobody else. Yeah I think the latest thing that they're saying is tax evasion right. Is that it? I'll be honest with you I'm googling them now I just found an exclusive story on Vice that says the reason he was kicked off of Big Brother is not the reason that was publicly known or what was thought of. It says that he was arrested for suspicion of rape in 2015. He was investigated over allegations of sexual assault and physical abuse in the UK during which time he appeared on Big Brother for five days. It was just posted a little bit ago. UK authorities declined to prosecute. That says that he was they told the producers of the show like five days before he was kicked off and then a video was found of him and a girl doing something that then they came out and said this was like a kinky video they were making and everyone thought. The girl came out and said that that was very consensual and that they were doing role play and that they liked to do this thing where he would like beat her up or something. This article is saying that didn't have anything to do with why he kicked off the show. This is one of the perfect. I don't know. This is one of the perfect examples though kind of what we're talking about. I don't fucking believe Vice. I don't know the idea. I don't believe how can you believe anything that is said about somebody so controversial because everybody seemingly has already made up their mind. So where to get real information on him? Who knows? All the objectionable stuff I think also was unnecessary. I think if you want I mean I don't know him. If I did know him I would tell him all the the boastful shit and the shit about him being you know the top G and all that stuff. All that shit's great. But the misogynistic stuff like if you have daughters or if you have a wife or if you have sisters stuff like that you don't want that. That narrative like putting that out there that's negative to everybody. It's not even positive to him. It's like it's not necessary. We had him on one of our podcasts and he almost struck me exactly how you said like for let's say he's talking for 10 minutes I'm like oh making sense smart and then he says something so wild over the top literally like women are my property like I own them. It's like whoa what'd you just say? And that's what he does. Yeah. And he's also selling that class. What is the class? The Hustlers University. What is that? What are they teaching people? It's like you just toss. But what do they teach? Are they? I don't know. They can quit at any time they want. It's like 70 bucks a month and you become a top G. That's literally. I mean is that bad? I don't know. I mean is it is it a con game or is it is he trying to give them legitimate information? What does he give him other than what he's already said in interviews and like how is it a university? Like what is. He has people who and that's where it's a grayer because I. Aren't there like professors? Hustlers University experience modern wealth creation. I haven't elected this I didn't know this was even real. Yeah no this is what he said like a main. So many grifters. Main business. Secure your spot for just $49 is your last chance to secure a spot or a discounted price. This weird countdown thing is such a. Oh that's hilarious. Oh my god. It's just recycle one hour 10 minutes and 36 seconds to sign up and it's going to be $147. He's enrolled now Jamie you have an hour before this class and roll. Listen roll. What's in roll. What do we have to do click on that and roll now. OK what do we have to do. The real world has launched a completely matrix independent platform where we teach you how to make money in the digital age. How do they teach you how to make money. You just hustle man you just hustle. Six hundred bucks a year. It's also another thing like this matrix thing which he has which again I. I am a firm believer based on my experience like people are out to get you there out to get you. He also if he committed these crimes he's sort of brilliant be like they're coming for me in the next couple days because you know they're coming and then your father's going aha he was right. It's like a self fulfilling. Who knows. Right. But I will say. He goes too far. And yeah you think rational people be like well you're crazy but there's a lot of you know and that's where anything's a slippery slope. He's also a wild dude that lives in the world of kickboxing and that is a wild group of people. You pay attention to like top flight kick boxes like the Bader Harries and the I mean there's some Melvin Manhauf there's some wild fucking people in that world. That is a crazy world where there's not a lot of money and you're facing fucking straight up killers and you know I mean there's all sorts of different personalities in that world but it's a different kind of human. They're just wild masculine very aggressive people you know and that's that's part of his shtick. But he if you want to use the word toxic masculinity he's he's it. Well the bad stuff that he said embodies that. Yes. Yeah. That's what people are that's why people are rooting for what he said to be true because they don't want that. Right. But you're still crazy to root for that because you're not thinking about the victims that would be you're basically that that means a lot of people are hurt. Well it means if it's true you want them to be punished. Correct. Like hoping that it's not true when it is true is not good either. No but you know what I'm saying like if you're hoping that it's true and it's not true that's horrible because you are hoping for people to have been victimized. Yes right. Yeah. I mean you should never hope violent crimes are committed. Right. Absolutely agreed. Yeah for sure. But you also hope that he's not accused of these things when it's just because of his bombastic personality and talking shit and getting all this attention which he clearly is done. You got to wonder how much of it is sat like when you talk to Piers Morgan. That was a very interesting conversation because Piers confronted him on all those things and he did a great job of explaining what he does and why he does it and and you know it's like the guy went viral in a way that no one has and so quickly. Yeah. In a while we're like my 12 year old and my 14 year old were asking me about it. Yeah no he was it. Yeah all over TikTok and all over everything and if you just look at some of those little parts. But that's the scary part in a weird way. If you're 12 you're holding 14 year olds are hearing some of the outrage like nobody wants. Yeah. Yeah he didn't even have a TikTok I think and he was like the number one guy in TikTok crazy. I think they probably banned him. Right. I mean they banned him from everything. They banned him from Facebook. Yeah. And then Elon. Yeah Elon brought him back. Yeah. Which listen I agree with. I think you should be able I don't think banning people is the way. I think this exchange with Greta Thurnberg is a perfect example of how to counteract that. Yeah. Like she just mocks him and and then he gets arrested and she has the fucking tweet of the year making fun of his arrest. Yeah. And a fucking perfect one liner. So that happens you don't recycle your pizza boxes. Yeah. Right. Genius. That's why it's good that someone like that is on social media because you get you get a chance for people to participate in the conversation.