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Quentin Tarantino is an Academy Award-winning writer, producer, and director known for films such as "Pulp Fiction" and "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood." He is a co-host of the podcast, "The Video Archives," available now.www.patreon.com/videoarchives
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The 80s and the 50s were the worst time for movies ever because it was just this kind of politically correct time. Now in the 50s it was different because that was just society was that. In the 80s it was self-censorship was going on. What started that? Well, it was just the rise of political correctness. After the 70s where everything was just go as far as you can, then all of a sudden everything got watered down. In the 70s you had movies where it's like characters weren't necessarily the hero. They were fucked up but they were interesting characters and you sit down and you follow them whether it be Travis Bickle or Charlie Raine and Rolling Thunder or Joe, Peter Boyle's character and Joe. They weren't the heroes but you could even have heroes and they could die meaninglessly at the end. That was actually considered a commercial ending back in the 70s because it just shows how you can't win. Everything's fucked. You just can't win in America. It's just the way it is. You go and you fight in Vietnam. You survive Vietnam and you get shot in a liquor store during a hold-up. Everything was cynical. Then all of a sudden in the 80s all that was washed away and the most important thing about a character was that they were likable. Every character had to be likable and the audience had to like everybody. Within a movie that pushed the envelope and tried to do chancy things, well it could do it for about an hour. Then the last 20 minutes would be them literally going back on everything they did the first hour apologizing it and making everything fine. I'll give you a good example of that. The critics always really preferred Bill Murray movies to Chevy Chase movies. However, it does seem as if the point of all the Bill Murray movies is that he's this kind of hip, cool, curmudgeon, smart ass guy who in the last 20 minutes gets a transformation and becomes this nice guy and almost apologizes for who he was the entire movie, the whole rest of the movie before that happened. Groundhog Day. Stripes. Groundhog Day. Scrooge. The whole thing. For instance, Stripes. How does he go from where Warren Oates kicks his ass, deservedly kicks his ass. He deserves to get belly punched by Warren Oates in that movie. How does he go from being this inconticlastic, I don't give a fuck about anything, I get beat up by Warren Oates to now he's rallying the troops. Now he's getting their army on during the parade. Now he's leading a secret mission. Same thing with Groundhog Day. Does anybody really think a less sarcastic Bill Murray is a better Bill Murray? Maybe it's better for Andy McDowell but not for us as the viewer. Yet, yet, Chevy Chase movies don't play that shit. Chevy Chase is the same super-silious asshole at the end of the movie that he is at the beginning. He never changes in his stuff. He's always like a bit of a dick and is always completely sarcastic. I mean, let's say cast in playing a dope like he is in the Vacation movies, but when he's playing like a Chevy character, he never apologizes for who he is, stays that way throughout the whole film and even if there is a slight change, that's not the whole point of the movie. It's like turning him into a nice cuddly guy. Have you ever worked with him? No, I'd love to. I'm a gigantic fan of his early work, like the Fletch stuff. I just think in Saturday Night Live and so many movies. Oh, the whole first season of Saturday Night Live, pretty much all those early movies. Except for Oh, Heavenly Dog, all those early movies. He seems today to be this like really uncomfortable person. It's almost like too many people paid attention to him for too long and it freaked him out. I don't know him, but when I see stories about him or interviews with him or any weird controversy that happens with him, I'm almost like I think the guy just got overwhelmed. Yeah, I know he's just like, get the fuck away from me. Get the fuck away. You know, like everything is get the fuck away from me. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, I'm a big fan of his. Catch new episodes of the Joe Rogan Experience for free only on Spotify. Watch back catalog JRE videos on Spotify, including clips easily, seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on Spotify. You can listen to the JRE in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data costs all for free. Spotify is absolutely free. You don't have to have a premium account to watch new JRE episodes. You just need to search for the JRE on your Spotify app. Go to Spotify now to get this full episode of the Joe Rogan Experience.