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Justin Wren is a professional mixed martial artist, humanitarian aid-worker, and founder of Fight for the Forgotten: a non-profit benefiting the Mbuti Pygmy people of the Congo.
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now as this expands as fight for the forgotten expands and you do more and more work in the Congo Do you anticipate moving to other parts of the world? Yeah, so we already in Uganda, right? We started that last year, but we've really Kickstarted it April with this big kind of celebration on the new land five acres Because of Dustin's donation, we're gonna take that up to 30 more acres. So 35 acres in Uganda We want to get that to a hundred we want to get it to even more than that There's a potential that with fight for the forgotten we could potentially start up a social Enterprise or what are those called B Corps or something like that where it's a social entrepreneurship Gig where we start up maybe a coffee farm maybe a honey farm In these mountainous regions and the pygmies can have a sustainable job. They love coffee and honey Those are two things that they love coffee and coffee and honey It's funny there's this but John G as a pygmy man grandfather and elder in Mabukulu village Bajanji, he's actually in the in the book a picture with my wife leaning over and she's squatting down and she's still as tall as He is and she's in a full squat and she so he's a really little guy But this one time I saw him his grandkids had just raided a honey hive or a beehive And they just had honey all over their hands their arms their faces how they like from getting stung. No, they get stung They get stung like crazy Yeah They start a fire at the bottom and then they throw a vine around it and then they just walk up it with your feet And you're holding on to the vines. Oh, Jesus and it's crazy You take an axe up there and then you just start hacking into the tree with African ized colonies Which are killer bees which is nuts? So they're getting stung like crazy from killer bees. They're gangster They're quick. They're crazy. How are you stealing honey from killer? Oh my god, and no one else everyone else is freaked out by it How many stains do they get hundreds? Oh hundreds, but it's worth it to him So they start that fire underneath and the smoke goes up So that helps keep them off then if two people climb up it the sole person's job on the back is to have these leaves from a twig and they just are Hitting the bees off of the guy raiding the hive Do you remember when everybody was worried that African eyes killer bees were gonna come over here and kill us all? Yes, that was like a big fear like 20 years ago. Oh the killer bees they've been spotted in New Mexico Oh, they came up from but then they needed right in With our pussies right I think they say We don't have to worry about those our bees when they went down to the Amazon and came up here. Mmm. Those would be dangerous Yeah, so these guys they they do this they and they they catch it in a bag or something Like how do they they put it in a basket a basket a basket of hand? Oh, here it is. There you go in India. This is some guys doing it. It's pretty much the same exact thing Yes, those are those guys the killers those are killer bees Yeah, those are different bees business a strategy same strategy. Have you? You can reach in and grab bees this guy's an asshole. What are you doing, man? Have you guys seen that? There's a certain type of honey that has some sort of psychedelic effect and it's a very popular honey I want to say Nepal Somewhere is it Nepal? Yeah, and these guys they climb up to get this shit. It's like on the side of cliffs Like see you have anything else and Yeah, see these guys use these ropes to climb up to get that rope looks sketchy as fuck That looks like some homemade shit right there And so they this honey hunting work is very I mean, it's the craziest thing I've seen people do but these guys this Honey 200 feet in the air man. There's a different kind of honey. Yeah for some reason this honey makes you trip balls Of course, it's a vice documentary. Yeah, the Nepalese honey that makes people hallucinate So they add something into it. No, no, no, no. No, it has to do with whatever these plants these guys are getting the policy Yeah, so they're making a psychedelic honey just naturally. Yes, natural. Wow So you can put it in your tea and meet Jesus that seems dangerous So maybe maybe it's like a mild micro dosing type. Oh, that's true. I don't know Yeah, so like that that's what they just grab it and eat it Honeycombs to the hunter. Yeah, so these kids I think there's a video On my YouTube Jamie's you can find it of these kids climbing these trees I think it's just Justin Ren fight for the forgotten is the YouTube channel and there's this kid that I put a GoPro on his head Because he was just climbing trees like crazy up to the canopy of the rainforest. He's like nine years old Oh my god climbs 200 feet in the air and he looks down at us It's a 12-minute video or something, but we could fast forward any kind of safety harness. No, he's literally just doing a shimmying up it He doesn't even have a vine. He's doing it with his arms in his thighs. He's not he's just my daughter's Scaling it just scaling and he looks down on us. I can barely see him in the tree still He's like over 200 feet tall and and what's he getting up there? Well, they practice for two different things. He had his bow and arrow up there so he could shoot nest And shoot birds out of nest in the trees from 200 feet up 200 feet up, but he's shooting to other trees Oh my god And then they that's how they collect honey. We got him. This is a little guy This is him going from a little tree to getting over to a huge tree next to it But that's in Bobofy and I lived there for three months. I think in this village and He's seriously just scaling the tree. Yeah, it's a 12-minute video What it's wild if we can't have sound it's just him breathing And he just keeps going until he gets And then once he gets to the big part of the tree actually go back Ups up back a little bit more because he starts just zooming down He gets to the top and looks down at us And whenever you see us, I think this is where it is maybe What whenever he looks down look at that how high oh boy and that's not even when he was at the very top And he's just using his hands and feet. Yeah, he literally has no rope no vine Don't you feel like you should be under him to catch him? Yeah, but I wet someone from 200 feet up I'm just breaking arms. Yeah, that's like yeah, it's wish me You