Leah Remini on Finding Out About Xenu (from Joe Rogan Experience #908)

Hello freak bitches. These are called Seorg members. I'm not talking about average Scientologist and explain explain to me to see or because was that Established when Elrond Hubbard was evading taxes. So yeah, he was on a ship. Yes, and he created the ship Called the free winds and whatever ship that's not called the free winds It is called the free winds now, but that's where they deliver the highest level of of Scientology there Oh t8 so when you get to OTA you gotta dig out of the bow winds But before that I don't know the name of his boats But I think it was called the Apollo that was a part of going clear that was hilarious when Who was it one of the writers or one of the the well, I guess yes Yeah, when he we received like the highest level shit that wasn't even the highest level wasn't even was OT 3 really Yeah, and when I read it, I literally, you know, you have to go into a secure room Explain to talk us through that You have to get invited you have to get an invitation so you'd been in Scientology for years you'd spend a ton of money already By the way most Scientologists don't even get to this most most don't right Yeah, because you have to be wealthy to get to this not only do you have to be wealthy? But a lot of times what they do that the new scam is you got to go you get to a level and then they go We mess that up. You have to go back down at your expense Right have to redo that part you were talking about that on your show. Yeah. Yeah, so and they were right some new thing And now David Miscavige rewrites things and says he found it in a vault somewhere Believe it baby. Honestly, we all believe it because we want to believe it. So Talk me through so you go through this. What level did you get to OT 5? Oh, yeah close. Yeah I Got to someone I went so you to get to this advanced level this is it's called advanced levels, right? You are put through the wringer. They go through every folder You know from the moment you walk into a church or Scientology folders on you So everything you've ever said is written down and videotaped. Okay, so they they they get your folders and they they call They call it they go through it. Okay, and they go through every transgression. Are you still humping your pillow? Are you still? You know a nasty asshole to your mother like they go through everything Are you still connected to this person who said something bad about Scientology 20 years ago? So they make sure that you're eligible To get the advanced data and where do they bring you? Where is it at? It's it's on Elvron Hubbard way in Los Angeles and fountain. It's so how nervous are you freaking out? Oh my god This is happening. Finally all this shit I've put up with all my life is finally gonna be answered all my questions of life We're gonna be answered in this moment and you realize this is the moment you're gonna get the sacred documents. So my mother Yeah, so because I'm a celebrity they let my mother come in and she was also higher level than me, right? So imagine I'm in this like double like so you go through one door in the security and then you got to get the land You like you got to get like clearance. You got to go take a picture You've got to sign documents and say if I ever reveal this it's gonna be $100,000 You know, you don't ever get to read any legal document that Scientology gives you So you just sign things, you know, you just they say sign here sign here. It's like today what you did here So, I don't know I could be married to you as for all I know what I signed today I Like how you shook your head. No, you don't need to shy. Okay, so, you know comedy you don't deny Joe So I don't know why you keep denying that's how you step up the comedy another notch. Got it. You deny you just go Oh, oh, I didn't get the memo. Okay, so that's what we're doing. Yeah You want a room a Secure room you got a land your they take your photo you saw the dance well, they give you a folder you have to get a briefcase that only you know the Code to a briefcase so you go up to the window to the ao window and you hand them your briefcase They scan your briefcase and they put the materials in the briefcase and they close it They turn it back to you and you lock it Then you attach the briefcase to your body. I'm not like a handcuff No, like with a little clip like it has to be has to be physically connected to you, right? So when you go pay You have your briefcase coming with you. Correct, right? Okay, so you get briefcase they go go to the go down the hall and You're saying and you're gonna get be it led into one door and then you're gonna go into another door and then you're gonna Go into the course room. That's what it's called So you go into the three doors or two doors, whatever it was They sit down you open up your briefcase and you read the material for the first time The answers so my mother sitting there in front of me, okay, she's so excited Understand that like this is what you want for your kids Like you're like they're getting up the bridge and they're getting the answers to life So when they come back next lifetime, they're not gonna forget everything They're not gonna be as fucked up as they were when they were you know, I mean, right like it's it's really a proud moment You know, and so my mom sitting crossing me like So excited and I'm reading this that my body is made up of other beings My body my whole body My thoughts and everything are mixed in with these other beings that are make up compose my body Okay. Mm-hmm. Are you following me? Yes What's your understanding of it? Your body's made up of other beings right every every everything Everything my thumb is other beings your hair Okay, your your skins other beings your eyes are other beings everything everything like foul just here just in there just My thumb is a person is a is this being trapped into this body? Mm-hmm. Okay So I read this and the supervisor comes over and he goes do you understand? I want you to draw it out. I Want you to draw it out. So the supervisor has access to this information. Yeah. Yeah He's standing there to make sure right so I go like this Joe. I know I'm a little person Okay, I go. There's a bunch of beings on me like that and I give it to him like that and he goes Start again. I want you to read it again, and then I want you to draw another one So I go. Okay, so I did all this, you know, and I literally did this Joe I made circles on every part of my body So for people that are just listening please draw on a stick figure and she's drawing little circles all over the stick figure, right? Now these beings were like from 75 trillion years ago they were put in volcanoes and blown up and packaged and Overlord and Anyway, are you freaking out at this point? I go I look at my mother who said now the supervisor standing over me So I go what in the hulk? So It's like So your mom was in she's Right, I know your mom's OTA. Yeah, your mom's top of the food chain Yeah Not only is my mother part top of the food chain when it comes to the counseling side My mother was top of the food chain when it came to administering Scientology, which is very rare She was what's considered a high trained auditor, but she hadn't read this stuff. Of course. She read it She was just there to see my excitement. Oh, I see. Okay. She's there as a spectator to see her daughter received the answers, right? But you were super skeptical Surprised comes over and he goes what don't you understand? I go I understand it I just I don't I don't loved it like I'm not happy I go, I just gotta tell you I'm not happy with this is what it was and he goes well You don't need to believe it. You just need to do it So that's the answer that's given to you. You don't need to believe it. You just need to do it So then you have to go and audit this you have to go and do it on yourself Talk to these beings on the meter by yourself So on the meter meeting you hold the cans and when I say cans folks what they look like It looks like soup cans like if you drained all the soup from a soup can and it had a string attached to it Yeah, you could just Google what's on a meter meter, okay So so you have to hold the meter and discuss this no you think it you think you know There's no thank you. So now you got to go get your material So after you've been checked out on this and they get that you get what it is Then you go back to the window and they give you your actual what you're supposed to do with this Information so it'll say like it'll be a piece of paper and it'll say ask This question and then look at the meter and what the answer is whatever answer comes to your mind write it down Huh do you saying yes, so all you're doing is awakening these things to talk to them really? Yeah Right and so let them go you're basically saying like go be free Go this is OT 3 correct and by the way when I was a Scientologist and I heard that this was a story I Was I didn't know so I would go to the internet and go OT 3 story But I didn't know what if it was true, so I couldn't verify it right decent saying so most people who go that's bullshit Because they haven't they don't know what they're looking at on the internet, right? There's no one to verify it with so if I went to my mother Let's say before I got to this level they you're told to lie to people Oh, you can't tell people what the answers are cuz they're gonna get pneumonia They get pneumonia and surely will die Okay, so a lot of times when I lied to the press and then they confronted me on it and said why'd you lie? I was like I had to to save your life. I mean I can't Give you cancer So what if you were about to go to OT 3 and then you went online and you Investigated what is OT 3 and then you read a bunch of stuff about these little beings in your body and then asked your mom Your mom would have to lie to you. She would lie to me as she did as she did so after you got through this Yeah, what made you do four and five? There's always the carrot of like just wait Here's what they do they set up that you're the auditor now so you're you're auditing these things in your body You're now the boss. So they go they tell you get your hat on like you're it's your job You don't need to believe anything. You just need to audit them. So you need to do your job as an auditor That's what they're called auditors people who are the ones who take you into session and Scientology, right? So you feel like you're in a leadership role. So you're doing these things a favor You know and you're like, well, maybe it's true. I don't know I mean, I do sometimes hear voices, you know, like, you know You have a moment with yourself and you're like I might be really kind of crazy So you're like, maybe this is an answer It's it's sick because it speaks to a side of you that wants answers about life, you know And then you're like, no, this is some crazy shit man. That it wasn't even People what no, you know it it listen you believe what you want to believe at the time, right? Does it feel to you at the moment like maybe if you just keep going In place then it'll make sense. Yes, like I'm confused now, but if I contemplate this and I really think it over Eventually, I'm gonna receive enough information. This is all gonna be like oh Right. I was a fool. I didn't understand right So for example one time I had talked to a friend about it. I said, you know, I heard something about some zenu shit She Pulled me into celebrity center so fast into a secured room and She handed me my ass. She said don't you ever Say that word outside a secured room. I'm writing a knowledge report on you. She said I'm writing You never say that word out loud in a room that's not secured Okay, and never again, so she wrote a report on a knowledge report. She wrote a knowledge report on me I got sent to what's called ethics, which is like the Justice Department of celebrities of Scientology and they said they brought me into another secured room because they have to get somebody who knows this information And they said never ever say that say this never confirm it never deny it Never give that information out ever that just never discuss it just say I never heard of it. You sound crazy And that's what we all say you sound crazy or you know properly done you get it You know like you'll get it if it's properly done those people didn't do it properly. That's why they didn't understand it. Do you say?