Kanye West and the MAGA Hat | Joe Rogan & Donnell Rawlings

Way more people reading tweets versus newspapers, right? I'd be stunned. Like, if you could get to see that exact engagement in a good article in the New York Times on the front page versus one of Donald Trump's tweets. Like, she's... The only two people that motherfuckers are just waiting for their tweets to come out is Donald Trump and Kanye West. Yeah. Those are the two most interested tweet people. Kanye West could just say grapefruit juice and fuck up all of the media the next day. What do you think he meant? Do you think he meant he was hungry? Or he was thirsty. Kanye just tweeted grapefruit juice. One of the most... One of the most interesting tweeters out there. Yeah. You wait for a Kanye West tweet. Well, he's got a free way of expressing himself. Like, he... He has an unfiltered way of expressing himself. And a lot of people, people have mixed feelings about it. Yeah. Mixed views. I know the black community is a little stressed out right now. Well, because of his Trump thing, but you know what? I don't know how much of that. There's two things. One, Obama called him a jackass. That could weigh on you. That stung a little bit. Yeah. You know, and then Obama, when Obama's gone, Trump takes office. Trump is willing to let him talk. Right. Trump will charm him. And here's the thing, Joe, with that said, like when I do white clubs, black clubs, whatever, I do all type of clubs. But the thing is, first off, Kanye West has a voice. Not too many, as much as black people want to throw the towel on them, we don't have too many voices that everybody is waiting here. Whether, whatever comes out, he has a voice. I believe that Kanye West is trying to say something. I just don't know what the fuck he's trying to say, because I'm not fluent in Yeezy. Ah! I barely know Swahili. I can't do Swahili and Yeezy. And I think he's trying to say something, but if there was some type of interpreter, you know, and this would be a dope, and if Chappelle's show is right now, this would be a dope ass skit. Kanye West says something, and then Dave Chappelle is his conscious interpreter. That would be hilarious. Kanye says, and then Dave yells out, psh, psh, psh. You know what I think? And this, I mean, I only talked to him once on the phone, but what I think from studying him and paying attention, because we're supposed to eventually do a podcast one day, is I think he thinks different. He does. He connects dots different, and that's one of the reasons why he's so prolific with music. But that's the point I'm making, Joe. And that's the point I'm saying about not speaking Yeezy. And some people that think like that, they don't know how to get it out. It's like just speaking. I'm like, oh, okay, no, no, no, no, no. But I've been thinking about this a lot. You're Superman, I love you, you're my dad. Let me see. Ha ha ha ha. You're my superhero, you're my dad. You're like my father. You know how hard that was for the black community to hear him say that part? You can sell him a plane all you want. But when you say you're like my father, and then black people sitting back like, could you please explain that? So we think, this was funny to me. Then Kanye said, yeah, you're like a father figure to me. Like when I was younger, I thought his career hit me with a horrific, you know, father was in a shootout, a drive-by. And this would fuck me up, bruh. He said, yeah, when I was younger, my parents separated at a young age. First off, you had parents. Ha ha ha ha. You already winning, motherfucker. None of my niggas had parents. Ha ha ha ha. They had my mother and my father, you know what I'm saying? Not only that, okay, okay, cut my friends. My parents, basically, my parents separated. I mean, they were married. That's two wins. Ha ha ha ha. You up too. Ha ha ha ha. You don't even get to if they separated and mom moved down the street. You still got to see your fucking father. So that was a little troubling. But the whole thing is, I'm pretty sure at some point, Kanye West will be able to speak a language that everybody can understand. Until then, it's only a handful of people to speak it and understand it and also write it. But here's my problem with all this. And I've been thinking about this a lot. They want to medicate him, right? Look how effective he is. Just stop and think about culturally effective in terms of the music that he makes that people love. His voice, he creates clothes, okay? He's married. He creates conversation and dialogue too. He does. His wife makes hundreds of millions of dollars. They're insanely wealthy, insanely successful. If you want to talk about overall success, they're together, they have children. They're super wealthy. He produces incredible art that's loved worldwide and they want to medicate him. Just stop and think about how effective. But they want to medicate him to operate at what level though. Exactly. Think about how effective he is. And yet they want to throw- On medication or off? Off. When he's off medication, he said himself, he's his most creative. Stop and think about how creative he's been, how successful, how well received. Happy in all these other elements in his life. But yet they want him to act the way they want him to act. Well, black people just want him to take the hat off. You know what I'm saying? I mean, whatever, bro. You can say whatever the fuck you want. The black people wasn't mad because he wore the hat. They was mad because he wasn't a fitted. They was looking for a new era. If that was a new era, they would have been more accepted of it, man. We just don't want the hat, son. It's red and white now. That's a problem. Anything with red with white letters- So we will punch you. I'm telling you, it's like, when I see, it's so funny now, whenever I see a red hat, I'm like, oh, I'm immediately, but I did a show, I've stayed in New York, and it was just why a dude came up to me after the show, and he didn't have what looked like a Make American Great in hand. He had a Make American Great in hand, and it looked like he had the original one. You know how you got a Boston fan, and you're like, you only been a fan. He was a fan of American Make American Great before, like, he probably sold the hashtag to him. But here's the thing, Joe. This month I had the hat on and shit, and at the end of the show, he was one of the dudes that continued to laugh in the most, you know? And I went up to him, and I was like, yo, I gotta get a picture with you. And I took the picture, and it was a video. I was like, yeah, motherfucker, y'all see his hat, and he started laughing, and we had a good moment. It wasn't no, I wasn't angry at him. I'm not gonna let, I think it's hard to get away from him, but I think Quikane with the hat, he likes the idea of how it gets people flustered. He's a contrarian in a lot of ways. Triggered, especially with triggered, right? Yeah, one of them was. Yeah, excuse me. All right, all right. No, but I'm saying it's like triggered. And when a guy had the hat on that I was talking to, I heard in the side, it was like this, oh, he's triggered. And I wasn't. I wasn't triggered by that. What I would've been triggered by is how you make me feel with that hat. No, period. Period. You know, you could come at me with the hat on with some fucked up energy, and I could feel it, but the energy he gave me was like, I know this may sound crazy, but he was like, yo, you're a funny motherfucker. With the hat on, you're like, okay. I didn't give a fuck. Because I couldn't let him, I couldn't let him make me feel like, if that's what his intent was, he was gonna make me feel uncomfortable. I couldn't do it. Smile. Do you think he was trying to make you feel uncomfortable? No, I think he really was. That's who he was. I think that's who he was, but I think he, that's who he was. But I know that motherfucker laughed like a motherfucker.