Kamaru Usman on Potential Masvidal Fight | Joe Rogan

I'm really interested to see what happens with Tyran and Leon Edwards. You know, they're fighting next. That's a big fight. A very hard fight for both guys. It is. It's a hard fight for both guys. But stylistically, he matches up well for both guys because Tyran has a lot of successes with Southpaw guys. That right hand start. Yeah, he's got that cannon in his right hand. And Tyran is very, very good when guys don't completely dominate and control what's going on. And Leon Edwards has done better at that with guys that he feels like he can keep up with. But with a guy like Tyran Woodley that can wrestle like Tyran Woodley that's got power like him. I wonder how he's going to do. Well, I feel like Leon gets the least amount of attention when it comes to like top flight world class fighters. He's a top flight world class fighter. But he gets the least amount of attention out of those guys for whatever weird reason. I mean, it's the era that we live in. I mean, this this is the first fight. Like if you really think about it, this is the first fight you're actually starting to hear his voice. Right. Like it's like, who is Leon Scott or Edward? Whatever. Well, the biggest thing with him was when he had a fistfight with Maz Vidal. Like when they when they had that scrap. It wasn't a fistfight like Maz Vidal just cracked him. Whatever that guy, whatever his name is. You know, I mean, you know, you openly said it. You have one of the best sucker punches in the game and the best 40 yard dash. So you go in there, you sucker punch somebody backstage and you run out of there and they rush you out of London before it. Yeah, Brits can get a hold of you for the London boys came back. You know, so I mean, yeah, that that's kind of unfortunately for Leon. That's what put his name crazy, too, because when you're in a foreign country and you commit assault, usually they lock you the fuck up. They got him out of there. Let's just they got him out of there. They got him out of there. But it's weird, like no charges, no nothing. They got him out of there. But in that kind of because there's video. It's not like we don't know what happened. And the crazy thing is that he gets praised for that. Yes. They made him famous. He gets praised for that. I imagine I do that over there in London. Or imagine anybody else doing that in London. It's how do you do it? It's weird. Like how did Maz Vidal get away with it? It's it is weird. Well, with the forces that be, the UFC is very they're very good at what they do. And let's just say they got him out of there. Let's just say let's just say. Yeah, he's been talking crazy shit. Yeah, that might be your next fight. What do you think that you think that's going to be your next fight? I hope so because of because of the way that I'm the type of guy to where anything you say can and will be used against you inside that octagon. Oh, you're a court of law. I exactly exactly. I'm the judge, the juror and executioner in there and and that that's how I approach it. You know, some guys you just sign the contract to go fight the guys, but I get obsessed with the fact that I want them to say something. I'm waiting for them to say something. It's a little tougher than the guys that don't really have to say anything. They'll have anything negative to say. It's a little tougher to go in there and you know and get angry to fight them. And I look at I want them to say something. They do an interview that pops up my Google alerts on you know my someone from my team and tell me boom someone did this interview about this check it out. If I have time, I'll watch it. Oh, he said that okay, you know and this guy. It's you know what it's it's funny to see the way it's shifted like the career his career shifted. This is God's been known for a long long time a long time. Yeah, and he was a run-of-the-mill guy would win some lose some win some lose. I mean, you know not that long ago. He was losing you know, but and the credit to his team as well. You know, they've done a good job at picking the right fights to really get him to where he is now. But you know what actually happened? You know his story. He went he went on a South American game show. Well, yeah, he was 300 pounds before he went and did that was he like he was really fat. Bro, look at piggy fine looking pictures really but this is like post Wonder Boy, wasn't it? Yeah, was it somewhere around then I guess somewhere around there. I think it's post Wonder Boy right after but he Really bad fat night when I fought was it I fought Wonder Boy No, when I fought Damien Maya, I think that was like the tail end of the of the the huskiness on his part, but it was At some point like listen like everyone's buying into the hype This is what I'm saying that they've done a good job at creating this hype by picking the fights To where one fight was a gamble the Ben Askram fight was a gamble, you know, you win that fight You take all that hype that this guy has which this guy didn't belong in there in the first place, but Previously in his career early on his career. You could make the argument that yes, but at that point in his career He didn't belong in there, but he goes out there Let's say Ben Askram does take him down and does what Ben Askram does you wouldn't be having this conversation right now? Hmm, so he goes and that's a gamble on their part and the gamble paid off He went in they took all that height from Ben Then who's the next guy the guy that you know another guy that when some lose some but has a ton of height because he's Just fought Connor goes in there and fights Nate Now that fight turns out the way did you get all this hype now you got all these people thinking Oh my god, this guy's a killer. Where has he been this and that? It's the same guy that was 300 pounds not too long ago Damn near close I don't think he was ever above north of 220. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, really? Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm fat. Yeah, you should look at pictures Oh, yeah, but you know hats off to him and got the weight off and you know He went over and did his thing and I'm no hater. I give credit what credit is dude Yeah, but but don't he was always that guy that said, you know what? I'm not I'm not this cliche. I'm not playing this character I'm not doing this, you know I'm just a real fight in this but then you're showing up at fucking press conferences looking like the knockoff of Scarface Yeah, but don't you think that that's wise like no, it is why very smart. It is why it is But say it like it is Don't sit here and say all these guys are being the gimmick these guys are doing this You're doing the same damn thing and and then look at what he did that last fight Oh my god, he took the biggest L that night like that was corny You want to wear the robe you want to stand there? You say he was holding that silver belt like he they actually think this is a real belt the BMF. What did you think about that? They didn't need a BMF belt for this last fight with Connor and cowboy they just needed a good matchup Yeah, absolutely. So why what is why does the BMF belt? Like is that a one-time thing? Yeah, it was it was something they created to kind of hide that fight. They needed they I mean they really need a belt Oh, did they know they didn't but you know if they they get loud enough and Dana hears them and Dana sees that Dana is a very smart man. Goodest promoter ever seen, you know And to jump on that like, you know what shit like let's make a nice little Motherfucker, let's make a nice little silver belt, you know, this little little it's like instead of gold. Yeah, it's like a silver color purplish color Pull a picture of it. I want to see that thing. Yeah, it's a beautiful belt What the UFC belt is beautiful. That's more beautiful That's more it's like saying like, you know, I mean you look at a new Corvette you go. That's a beautiful car Yeah, and then you look at a Ferrari. Oh, that's a better looking car. Oh, yeah, that's better. Okay. Oh, or is Bentley's. Yes Yes, I want that. It's another level but it's yeah, but this one's like the Bentley and then the Honda Civic I'm It is silver Silver was that like that guy copper. No, that's not copper. It's like Sterling so it seems kind of goldish in some it means it seems like the lighting. No, it's sterling silver It's like I kind of think it's gold. No, it's not gold. No, no, I go It's not go wrong. Yeah, it's like bronze. It's not even silver. It's not even second place is bronze. I Mean this is like honestly, this is like a participation medal, you know How would you do the field and they give you the participation medals? They're like, here you go kid You did a great job and that's what this is. Well, if you beat him, do you get that belt, too? I want that shit. I want it because you do with it. If you had it, would you wear both of them? No, what would you do with it? Just put it aside in my closet? I would put it in my closet, but it's like there's nothing there's no I'm what that means nothing Something to hyper fight but they ran his team has ran with it like yeah When they called it when they showed the video of him when they went to the camera turn to him during the last Paperview the fucking pop was gigantic. Everybody went crazy when they saw him. Yeah, I mean the hype is real Yeah, you the hype is real. It's a lot, you know big people love Love him, you know, but that's the thing is people love you until they really see what you are You know Darren Till had a lot of hype and shout out to Darren Till I mean, you know, he's still you know growing in this in the sport But he had a lot of hype to where people were saw man. This guy's gonna beat Woodley, right? Like even at some point I was like yo, he might get Woodley Really? I was like, yeah, he might get Willie and you can see in that slide yearly disrespectful That they were making him the favor in that fight I'm like you guys are crazy you're crazy I mean this guy's already fought one of the best strikers twice in Wonderboy and beat him both times not just that he was the only one that hurt him Yeah, like he hurt Wonderboy bad in both of those fights Wonderboy never hurt him So you got the guy who's arguably one of the best strikers to ever do it in the welterweight division We wonder boys a fantastic kickbox. Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah, Tyron Segan asked him you saw a Wonderboy did To mouse with all yeah, the Al pointed him. Yeah, good fight. I mean he dropped him like several times Did he drop him? Yeah a couple times. Well Darren dropped him too. Yeah, until dropped Moss Fiddle too But yeah, Moss would all starch Tim. Yeah, you know, I give credit what credit is do, you know But um, like like I'm saying back to that like yeah, everyone but I was almost like you saw with like that So I'm sure we'll leave is a little afraid in that fight because it's like do you think so? Yeah, you have to be I think he saw the hype they were putting behind them You have to be because at some point as a champ and that's what makes you Saying as a champion is that little fears like wow, they really saying is this kid really good enough. He's the favorite He's a good enough. I thought that was so crazy Yeah, sometimes there's odds and I'm like, this is just this doesn't make any sense at all to me I agree, you know, there's certain odds where I'm like you guys who's making these odds. Yeah, I Beats me especially these rankings too. I'm Mike they've got this kid at number three He hasn't fought him before hasn't fought number one number two hasn't fought number five hasn't fought number six I'm like how in the hell is he in number three? Moms at all summer three doesn't have it. Well who it makes the rankings I rankings are okay I don't know who makes the rankings because sometimes a guy will beat a guy and then he'll be below that guy in the rain Yeah, it's like what? You