Joe Rogan's Take on Hannah Gadsby and "Nanette"

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Bert Kreischer

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Bert Kreischer is a stand-up comic, podcaster, and actor. He's the host of "The Bertcast" podcast and YouTube cooking program "Something's Burning." He's also the co-host of the "2 Bears, 1 Cave" podcast with fellow comedian Tom Segura. Watch his latest special, "Bert Kreischer: Razzle Dazzle," on Netflix. www.bertbertbert.com

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Right before I did my special, my closing bit I did on the show, on the special, the closing bit, I sat with you for a fucking hour in the back room, because I took it up in the main room following like Delia, and I just said, here we go. And I, man, that club can really let you know where the silence is. And you go, alright. And then you're like, oh, I've been lazy, I've been performing to fans who will give you the benefit of the doubt. Who love you. Yeah. And they want you to succeed. And if you're new to a Netflix special, you need it to be to put strangers need to like it. That's the old Louis quote that I used to hang my hat on. They were like, why don't you work at UCB? And he goes, anyone can make them laugh. He was like, I'm famous. Like, if I go in, like, that's like making your friends laugh. That's why this is why I do the road is the art form is to make strangers laugh. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, it is to make strangers laugh. Yeah. Well, it's also, you don't want a delusional perspective. And one thing that does happen to some comp, like Stanhope lives by it. He's like, why would I go and do someone else's audience? He goes, it took me 25 years to make my own audience. I'm like, OK, I get it. Yeah. But I really feel like to develop material to really do it right. You got to do it in front of just regular people, people that aren't necessarily there to see you. And the beautiful thing about the store is if there's 15 people in the lineup or 20 people in the lineup, whatever it is, how many are there to see you? 10 percent, 30 percent, 20 percent. Like, you know, maybe they're there to see you and Aliyah and also, you know, Tom and also Christina. Like it's they're just comedy fans. They're not Burke Kreischer fans. Yeah. Yeah. And that that's giant as giant because those guys that like develop like that. I've seen a few people that develop an audience and that's all their audience and there's they just get real complacent, real lazy. That's the does it. I mean, I've I've I say lightly because there's some Internet comics, meaning like YouTube comic people that do comedy now. And some are good. Some are good and some are developing. I don't know. I was saying that to be polite. But like that one guy got booed off stage in Montreal because he's been performing to fans. Oh, well, here's the other thing about that guy. That guy goes up on a show where the Zalzi of the comedians on and then at the end of his set says that comedy shouldn't be about about preaching. It should be about making people laugh. Right. It shouldn't be about ethics or morals, sexuality or race, sexuality or race. It should be about making people laugh. People pay to forget about that stuff. Bitch, you are on stage not making people laugh. That is what you're doing. Yeah. You silly fuck. It is one of the silliest things I've ever seen in my life. It's like this is an he's essentially a beginning comic. Open mic. He's maybe been doing stand up three years. So he does like videos and the videos are very popular and they're funny. Yeah. If you're from the south, they're really funny. Just unless someone's doing your shit, unless they're stealing or stealing from somebody else, just do your fucking act. Unless something happened before you that's so egregious and ridiculous that you feel like you have to address it when you go on stage because it's just sitting in the room and to just try to do. You never notice when you pick up your phone, if you just try to do that and everybody's like, what the fuck? You're not going to address what just happened. Sometimes you have to address what just happened. Sometimes someone will go on before you and just eat so much shit that you have to say something. You have to say something. Yeah. You have to. Yeah. But what that guy did was ridiculous. To tell someone what comedy is and what isn't, I had read an article about this, I'm assuming she's a gay woman wrote about trashing Hannah Gadsby and going, hey, we're gay and we're doing stand-up comedy. We're not just preaching. We're doing stand-up comedy talking about her trauma and it's working. You just don't see us. So don't write us off and say comedy is dead because you don't see us. I don't think Hannah Gadsby's saying comedy is dead. I think journalists are saying comedy is dead and I think we're all buying into it because these people who are writing these articles, they're not even in comedy. They're just comedy fans or fans of her. But I think she did and I've only seen part of it. I saw the whole thing. I'll tell you right now. She has one joke I like a lot. Whatever she did is fine. Here's the thing. It's her artwork. This is what she's doing. It's fine. Like, if people enjoy it, that's great. The problem with comedy is that comedy is one category. It's just comedy. But comedy could be Cat Stevens. It could be Guns N' Roses. It could be the Ghetto Boys. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But in music, there's very distinct genres. There's just comedy. Comedy is just comedy. You could go see a folk singer and what they're doing on stage, like really slow and quiet, is music. But then you go to see fucking Led Zeppelin and you go, okay, well, that's music too? How the fuck is that music too? How is Motley Crue the same kind of thing as Cat Power? How is that? How are they the same? Well, they are both music. It's like we do comedy and she's doing a version of comedy. Some of it is really funny and some of it is her just talking about stuff in a very serious way. That's fine. Yeah. We're not against each other. This is what's crazy. Everybody's like, this is deconstructing comedy. Comedy's dead now. What are you talking about? That's crazy. No, she's doing what she's doing. If you enjoy it and that's what you want to see more of, go see that. Yeah, that's what she does. That's great. She has a great joke about unicorns that I giggle about once a week. I'll tell her jokes in the title on Netflix. You can see it. When I was growing up, I knew more facts about unicorns than I did lesbians. She goes, there are no facts about unicorns. I was just like, that's a good fucking joke. That is a good joke. Yeah, I mean, that's her experience, right? She's a lesbian. It's hard out there for a pimp. It is. I get it. It's fucking like, we are... I think people create unnecessary and artificial adversaries. I really do. I think this is one of the ones that's going on right now in comedy. I see it all the time with this Nanette thing. It's like, stop. Stop with the art. I mean, I fall into it too. I buy into it too and I read some of these articles. Comedy's not dead. What the fuck are you talking about? It doesn't make any sense. You read the article and you start thinking she said it. Exactly. Exactly. She's telling us I can't do comedy anymore. She didn't say it. She just did something and someone interpreted it that way. If she says she can't do comedy anymore, that's fine too. She could just do... Now she's famous, right? She could just do one woman specials or one person specials or one entity specials. How are you framing it now? I wouldn't even say it, Joe. Don't you say the gender? I wouldn't even... I would be like, she does the thing.