Joe Rogan | Would a Sex Strike Work? w/Neal Brennan

And this excuse making that people do do as a straight white man, I can't get a break in this town, like, oh my god. When you're a straight white man and you're complaining, like you got one of the most fucking captivated hands of cards. In world history. In world history in 2019, straight white nails. Still a great hand. Still a great hand. You might get beat with a crazy, you know, nanette. Yeah. And then that hand. And then that hand. Sink out at the hamstrings. Man, that'll get you on the river. Yeah, but. She what? I know, she got number one, but it wasn't even funny. What the fuck? Um, anti-caughtie? What's anti-con? All right. Uh, my take on the nanette thing, and I haven't even seen it. It's like, do people like it? Yeah. Good. I saw it live. Did you like it? Yeah, I liked it a lot. Nice. It's not like Stan, I saw it in New York. I saw it before it was on Netflix. I saw it and met her and was like, thought, I was like. Is she nice? It was an awkward conversation, I'll say that. Well, she is a little spectrum-y, right? Isn't she talking about that? Yeah, I think that's a fair, fair estimation. She's pretty open about it. Yeah. Like it was, it wasn't like easy. Do you find that you, when you speak to certain women in particular, you feel like almost like you're guilty of something? Like you did, like you're a male, like you're an oppressor. Do you ever feel like that? Too many women and it could just be a projection. It could be my own. It could be like auto projecting. I definitely do that. There aren't too many, but I think you have to work against stereotypes. You're working against tattoos, bald, right wing podcast. Well, cage fighting commentator. I forgot about that. Jesus, Joe. I'm a monster. Yeah, so like you have a lot, I'm pretty, you know, a feat. The way I look is a problem. It's like, and I, if you, What are the odds you're not sexist? Right, or a dickhead. Yeah. Yeah, not that good. Yeah, like what are the odds? So you try, I mean, I don't, I don't feel it too much, but I can imagine how much, what percentage of women do you feel like you have to do that with? The ones who don't know me. Once they know me, like I'm pretty, pretty nice. Like go to a venue, you go to the venue that you've never been to. There's a woman, the backstage, one of the works for Live Nation or she works the venue. Like does she assume that you're? Nah, not if they work for Live Nation. Okay. I'm nice to all those folks. Yeah. But I think that if someone has like a very staunch feminist perspective and they meet someone like me, they might, depending upon their perspective, they might think that I'm the enemy. That that's a, that's a possibility that like right away they look at me like the enemy. Yeah. That's the thing of like, what are you absolute, like even, and you can tell sometimes when you're arguing with people that are super dogmatic about whatever they believe in, they can, you can watch them go into a line of logic that they know, that they then realize I can't because that will like seed some ground to this person. They go, and it's like, I saw you start. To go down that like a, just a reason, and I'm not saying stop believing what you believe in. It's just like, it's, it doesn't have to be a hundred percent. Exactly. Just, it's fine. You can still, you're still win the popular vote. It's just majority rules. It doesn't have to be overwhelming. Just don't, it's dishonest in a way because they don't want to believe, they don't want to have, they don't want to have a check in their armor in terms of logically. Yeah. And I think a lot of people into categories, because it's easy to define them too. You know, we were goofing yesterday, me and Joe List were goofing around about Alyssa Milano's sex strike that she was proposing. And I was like, one of the things that's offensive about that is first of all that, that women would agree with you, that they would just withhold sex from the person that they love. Because Alyssa Milano said, yeah. Because Alyssa Milano said you should withhold sex because in fucking Georgia, there are limited abortion laws. And the second thing is that you would assume that all men are responsible for this. Not even just the voters in Georgia, but all men somehow. A man in Minneapolis should be denied sex from his progressive girlfriend. Or that he's going to call his friend in Alabama like, man, you better do something because I'm not getting no pussy up here, bro. This fucking sex strike is for real. Bro, this is hitting the hell off. It's so delusional and such a dumb flag of virtue that they're throwing up. And it's such stupid 2019 woke politics that that was actually something. Oh, by the way, it's based on Lhasa Strata, like an old Greek play. Wasn't really? Yeah. No shit, there's a sex strike in an old Greek play? Yeah, and that's what that movie Chi-Rack was about. It was a sex strike in Chicago. No, I'm kidding. Yeah. Did that work? I don't think it's ever, I don't know, will you Google and see if it's ever been done? I would imagine the girls would just use it as an excuse to not fuck a guy they don't want to fuck. Most of them aren't fucking anyway. It's like, yeah, like, what are you going to, it's like, Rock had that joke about like, what are you going to, you can't stop, you're already not fucking me. Dude, when you hear women talk about not wanting to fuck their husbands, it's like, it's such a depressing, like, I was listening to this gal. She was like, well, you know, most wives don't want to have sex with their husbands. Like, what? You listen to that. You're like, ugh. As a husband, it bumps you out? Or as a human being? That they're in a situation. Yeah. Well, the thing that people like the most about relationships, but besides the fact that you love someone, you care someone, is having sex with somebody who wants to have sex with you. Yeah. It's great. Fun. Yeah. It's a fun time. It's very rewarding. It's super. Feels real nice. Feels, especially, take a little hit. So you really feel it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels great. So when you hear that someone doesn't want that, and then, you know, their attitude is that most women don't want that. Yeah. Most women don't want to have sex with their husband. They just do it because they have to. Well, that's also, it's very hard to get a clear story about women and sexuality in that like, it's, I don't, I think it varies from wildly. Oh, for sure. Like, in girls you've dated? Yeah. Even the other day, I put a thing on Instagram where I said, how, if you start following a guy, how long do you think he should wait to DM you? Because as a guy, all of the girls follow me, and because I just do jokes on there, I'm like, does this girl want to, I don't want to be like, so you came for the comedy. Also dick. I don't know. Yeah, that's a weird thing. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to bum her out if she just came because she thinks I'm funny, but like, yes, but what about fucking me? Can I introduce you in that? What about my penis? Yes. So, and of course the answers were all over the place. Yeah. Four days, five days, ten minutes, and then I said, but if he's cute, it doesn't matter. And they all wrote, nope, they're not. Yeah, but if it's Aquaman, just let them DM, slide. I like that you're referencing Aquaman as like the paradigm of hotness, not because he really is. He's as good as it gets. Yep. He's, well, this is what my wife said. She goes, he's everybody's type. Yeah. Including fish. Yeah, he's a big, giant, handsome, beautiful man who seems to be extraordinarily kind. Yeah. He's got everything going for him. And like, open, he dates an older woman that's older than him. Yeah. He's got, he exercises. What does this say? Furthermore, sex strikes have historically been affected. I opened this and didn't read it. As pointed by Chicagoists, in Kenya, the Philippines, Liberia, thanks Nobel Prize winner Lima, say that, G-B-O-W-E. Lima, Guo-B. Guo-wai. Gui-b-o-wai. Gui-b-o-wai. And in Colombia, where women held a 10 day strike in 2006 to end gang fighting. Wow. End gang fighting. It's a great, it is a great idea. It truly is like, if you want to affect change, just get every, I was saying to somebody last night, like we all know, like every, somebody was asking me about cheating on, and I was like, I'm not a cheater, but I was like, every guy does what they do. Most human achievement is because they, men wanted to get like, buildings, electricity. If you think that scabs are a problem in unions, just trust me, if you got a fucking sex strike, them hoes, them hoes are gonna come out of the woodwork. What am I gonna use? I have no leverage. This is my main leverage. But yeah, like it's a great bargaining tool. Oh yeah. I mean, it is the bargaining, I mean, that's, in some ways, that's most of the negotiation of a relationship is like, where girls go like, women don't control, it's like, they may not control it explicitly, but I know if I do something that's gonna get you in a bad mood, you're not gonna fuck me. And legalized prostitution is one of the, one of the best ways to combat any kind of sex strike. And that is one reason why women fucking hate the idea of legalized prostitution. They don't ever want that to not be negotiable. They don't ever want you to be able to go, oh, oh, I'm an asshole? Yeah, I'm going for a drive. And you go right down to the store, where you go to the sex store, and you pay for a 10, and she's built like Jessica Rabbit, and you bang her and you have a time of your life, and then you go home and your girlfriend's got a little bit of a gut, and your asshole's sagging, and you're like, I just, no. You can't tell me what to do anymore. I spent 80 bucks. I just, it wasn't that much. If sex was legal, financially, if it was transactions, sexual transactions. Now having said that, it is legal in a lot of countries. Or not a lot of countries, but a few countries. A few, enough. But if it was legal in this country, how much do you think it would shift perceptions? And the way, what people, I think it would. I don't know, because I was just in Singapore, and apparently it's legal there. By the way, I went to like, there's a, I was in Singapore, did some shows, excellent, and there was a place called, it's Orchard Road, and it's a mall during the day. And at night, it becomes a mall for prostitutes. They have a prostitute mall? Yes. They have like storefronts? It's Orchard Road, and the awful saying for it is four floors of whores, which is, I hate the word whore. I hate the word whore. I don't know, it just bugs me. I had something about it, it's like you whore, it just feels like dice or something. You like hooker? I don't know. I like hooker as a term of endearment. I like hooker. No, not like that. Like, cross-toot. Like, shut your mouth, hooker. Like, you say that to your friend. Like, a girlfriend who's just joking around about something. Like, shut your mouth, hooker, and nobody will laugh. So the local guys were going there, and I was like, well, yeah, I'm going to go also because I want to see this place because I've read about it. And there was a restaurant there that they ate in, which is a whole other issue. But it's literally like a mall, like a shitty mall, like not like Glendale Galleria where it's like a law. It's just one of those square ones where it's like four floors, there's an escalator in the middle, and then there's just basically like... Then there's just wimp prostitutes, hookers as you call them, out in the walkway. Jamie's got a visual for us. I was trying to find something, but I found a TripAdvisor review of Orchard. Don't go at night. Yeah, wow. Don't go here at nighttime unless you want to be shocked a little. The whole place turns into countless brothel bars. I feel like I need to scrub myself after our visit. I was there about three minutes and I was like, all right, because the thing is there's a difference between a legalized prostitution and anyone wanting to be a prostitute. They don't want to be. I mean, they are. I don't think they're being forced to coerce, but life is coercing them into doing it. What did you think about the Robert Kraft situation? Here's what bothered me about that. Two things bothered me about that. One, they accused him of being a part of sex trafficking. It turns out that wasn't true. There were just regular girls who wanted to jerk guys off for money. There's no one there. I wanted, I think is a big word. I was. Willing. He did it voluntarily, whatever. They were threatening to release the film footage of him. What are you doing? You're trying to shame him into submission? The fact that this guy, even though he's a billionaire, he can't stop that from happening? How crazy. The funny thing is the fact that he's a billionaire and still has to go to the fucking drive-through. It's like, boy, I wish there was a better system. There should be a better system. Yeah. I mean, I think it's going to be robots. I think sex robots are going to blur the morality line. This is a similar thing about there's no relief anywhere. I was at a party recently and DiCaprio was there. It was just like a huge crazy party, like crazy Hollywood party, like the kind I never go to. Just everyone's there. DiCaprio's girl wanted to leave. And he goes, well, the girl's retired so I got to leave the greatest party ever. Like he had to leave. Even Leonardo DiCaprio, the king of kings. The girls are tired. God. How long had they been at the party for? I don't know, an hour and a half or something. But there was like a dinner before. But it was just a funny thing. Like, oh, okay, so there's no, it doesn't matter who I am. You still, when they're done, yeah. When they're done, you gotta go. Sometimes. But, having said that, we still all do it for some invisible Shangri-La. I bet you would have stayed at the party for Aquaman. You know what I mean? Yeah, she met Aquaman. Like, it's fine, let's stay. Yeah, my feet are on the wall, but I'll take off my shoes. Whatever. Yeah, but yeah, there's still, he's still kind, I mean, we're still doing it for some primal, like all the achievements and all that shit. It's still some. Yeah, well, you want to be respected and loved and liked and you want people to desire you. Yeah. That's part of it, right? Even if you're not gonna take them up on it. Like, I told an anecdote on how Neil feels this week about the best compliment I ever got. I was doing a show in Vegas with two buddies of mine who shall remain nameless. We get on the elevator at the end, a woman gets on and goes, can I just say, I'm married, but I would fuck all of you guys. And we, and it was great. But it's like, oh, you get, we feel accomplished. We did a great job at the show. You're attracted to us. You just happen to be married. And that's so nothing's ever gonna happen. But thank you for expressing your attraction to us. I wonder if she was saying, even though I'm married. No, she was saying it like, just so you know, if I weren't married. Oh, if I wasn't married. Yeah. And not, and she didn't mean at the same time either. She was a little drunk. She was, but even. She had a little tipsy. She said some ridiculous shit. But that's a very nice thing to say. Like, that's kind of what you want from everyone. For a guy, yeah. Yeah. I would fuck you. Girls don't want to hear that. Like, yeah, thanks. Yeah, no kidding. They don't want to hear that. Yeah.