Joe Rogan - Wisdom of Insecurity

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Daniele Bolelli

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Daniele Bolelli is an Italian author, professor, and martial artist. His podcast is called “History on Fire," and his most recent book “Not Afraid” is available on Amazon (http://amzn.to/1SYRwpU).

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Yep. So, but that's the problem with forbidden stuff. Yeah. It never works. Well, it's also Italian food and wine seem to go hand in hand. And it's, I think, I mean, that used to be what they drank because they were concerned with getting sick, right? And one of the best ways to not get sick was to drink wine. The alcohol content. Well, yeah, the alcohol content would keep the water from, I mean, like if you just drink water all the time, especially if it's sitting still, you could get some bad fucking water, right? You can get bad water from a lake. I mean, how many, they didn't know jack shit about parasites back then. How many people got some terrible diseases from drinking puddle water and shit? Sure a lot. Oh yeah. You just find some water. Like, oh, we're thirsty. Time to drink. And, or even a creek. You drink in a creek and you think like, oh, this is a beautiful stream. This is a clear water. Yeah, but a beaver took a shit just a hundred yards ahead. Exactly. You don't know about it. You get what's called beaver fever. That's what, for real, that's what they call jardia. They call it beaver fever. Yeah, that can be good. No, it's terrible. So they used to drink wine to prevent what they would call traveler's disease because people would take these, those, what are those things called? The leather things that they would carry wine in. I want to say flask, but it's not flask. What are those, those leather satchels? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I thought they used flask for that, but I'm not sure. Might be. There's a term. It's like a leather bag and it had like a, on the end, like a cork and they just drink from that. And that's how they would hydrate. People must have been just hammered all day. When you read the statistics of how much people used to drink, it's amazing that anything ever got done. Cause it's just people were drinking morning through night and they must have been horrific to each other. Yeah. Then just, just to imagine like a whole civilization that is a drunken bar at 1 AM. Angry drunk. You know, it's funny cause I never, I mean, I've seen it enough that I get it. People get edgy and weird where when they drink too much, but I never got it because to me it's like, if I'm drunk, it's like, that's when I'm happy. I want to hug people. Fuck, why would I want to be in a bad mood? This is awesome. Well, you're a nice guy. That's what it is that comes out the. Yeah. If you're a fucking asshole, I see your, especially if you just barely keeping that asshole under the surface, barely just want to stab everybody and club them and steal their women and then you get a couple of drinks in you and this, this alcohol alcohol is a great social lubricant. Right. It's great for releasing inhibitions and letting people communicate with each other more freely and have fun. But this, it's also, it removes doubt and that's not good. Right. I think doubt is critical. Yeah. Like doubt is one of the pieces of the great puzzle, right? The great puzzle has many ingredients and one of those ingredients is doubt and doubt is important. You should look at anything you're about to contemplate and go, hmm, let me think about this. Let me think what could go wrong when you get a couple of drinks. Fuck it. Let's do it. Let's go. I know, you know, you're on an internet meme. Hold my beer. Yeah, exactly. We talked about that yesterday, like some of the most more ridiculous ones, but there's so many of those out there and almost all of them have to do with alcohol. Yeah. No, you're totally right. And I think what you're saying about doubt, there's a great, Alan Watts, the guy who popularizes and and that wisdom and all of that stuff, he had this great line. He called it the wisdom of insecurity. You know, this idea of thread, real careful. There's a wisdom there in not being overly dogmatic and which doesn't mean the problem is then people take the concept too far and that turn it into having no balls and not being able to take a stand. That's not a solution either. That's the other side of the problem. But there's a sweet spot in between where you can take stances, but they are careful stances. They are senses that are very willing to be changed at the drop of a dime if you showed good evidence to to change them. Yeah, is that to me is what intellectual honesty looks like. Yeah, I agree. I think it's good to be aware of all the possibilities. I used to tell people that when I was teaching Taekwondo, like people that would compete if they were really, really nervous, I'd be like the really smart people are really nervous because you're aware of all the possibilities of everything that could go wrong. The people that aren't worried about it at all, they're usually dumb. There's that, but also to me there are some people, like I look at some of the people who are able to keep it together in this kind of like Chuckly dial, right? Take a nap right before a fight kind of thing. I can't tell by look at those guys and just be like, you know something I don't know. There's something there that you're doing. Confidence, for sure. I mean, Chuck had been knocking people unconscious for many, many years and he knew exactly what to do. And I think he knew he was good at it. There's that for sure. And I think there's the other side is knowing that, okay, if I have decided to do it, fear is not going to help me now. It helped me to make decisions earlier, but right now it's not going to help me. So let's figure out, it was hilarious. My girlfriend fights MMA professionally. Yeah, I've noticed that. Yeah, she's wild. I've been paying attention to your escapades online. She's crazy. She's crazy. She literally had that Chuckly dial mode where she took a nap right before a fight and you know, like 45 minutes before you have to wake her up going like, hey, ready? And she's all like, okay, ready to roll. And I'm like, I would not sleep for a week prior. How do you manage to keep it together? Like good to do. I used to do that. I used to sleep before fights. It's good. That's awesome. Yeah. But you just can get yourself into a more calm state. It's so much better than frantically running around and freaking out and fretting. It freaks out your opponents. I would sleep like right on the bleachers. I just go to sleep right there and everybody else would be nervous and shit. And you're sleeping. Exactly. You look at that. I'm supposed to fight that guy. The guy was sleeping right before the fight. Hell no. Like the first match she did when I was nuts because you know, you're in the locker room and there's the guy sitting next to you, goes out for his match, come right back, he said he split open, covered blood. And they're telling you, okay, you get ready. You're going next. And I'm dying, right? I'm just seeking out the hell. And she's all like, la, la, la.