Joe Rogan - Why is Stem Cell Therapy Illegal in the US?

Why is this not legal here? Well it's considered to be a new drug by the FDA and that's the number one reason. There are four countries so far that have approved MSC products. There's Canada and New Zealand were the first to approve. Do you go to Canada and get this done? Well not for, only for certain conditions. So in Canada and New Zealand they approved bone marrow MSCs which are in my mind are not as good as umbilical cord and I explain why. And then South Korea has approved umbilical cord for knee osteoarthritis only so the cells have to be injected into the knee and then Japan just recently approved the same product that it's used to treat a very serious acute graft versus host disease in children after they've had a bone marrow transplant. Now are there peer reviewed studies or anything that shows the efficacy of this intravenous use of these stem cells? Yeah there are hundreds, there are hundreds and my book MSC which is you know you don't want to read it unless you want to go to sleep, unless you're looking for something. You know it's just it really is purely a research tool. We have 800 references and we reference every clinical trial that's ever been done with MSCs and human beings and there are 800 of them. Well I've had some great results with stem cells. Dr. Roddy McGee in Las Vegas shot a bunch into my shoulder. I was at the door of surgery. I was like my shoulder's in pain all the time. I can't do a lot. Every time I do something I have to ice it down for a day and now I have full function. I mean it's crazy. I mean I was literally I mean it's still clicks. I've got some weird shit in there and there's probably some stuff floating around in there but as far as like the function of my shoulder and the pain it's like 100% I could do basically everything. Yeah I was 57, 58 years old and this is like what four or five years ago and both my shoulders torn labrum, arthritis, bone spurs, like rotator cuff issues and I went down and I got 10 million cells in each shoulder. I said to the doc, you know, is this going to hurt? He says only when it comes out the other side. But he put it in and it was you could feel him pierce the capsule and you could feel pressure and I couldn't flap my wings for three days but after that no more problems. And this is different than the stem cells that you can get in the United States currently. Yes. What's the difference? Well the big difference. Because I had from umbilical cords. I had what is it called? What's the kind that you can get here in the United States? Well you can use the only thing that's legally legal in the US at least for now I don't think it's going to last much longer is from Amnion. Yeah that's what I got. There's an exemption in the, it's a federal exemption for the use of Amnion for wound covering and a lot of people have now translated, now they're using it in joints and things like that. You don't think they're going to be able to do that very much longer? I don't believe so. Why is that? Because this commissioner, FDA commissioner has made it very clear that he doesn't like it and they really haven't liked it for quite some time. Because the exemption is for one thing and doctors are using it for all kinds of other things. I don't necessarily agree with it I just know what's coming down the pike from a regulatory standpoint and there have been some regulatory things that have come out. They've gone after clinics and I think they've shut down three places just in the last couple of months. And they haven't gone after Amnion yet but I think they're building their case for it and unfortunately that's what's going to happen. Why would they go after it? That's what's confusing. If you've seen all these benefits and I haven't heard anything about negative results. I don't understand it myself to be honest with you. Amnion's been used clinically in the United States for over 100 years without serious adverse events. I think it's more about the claims that people are making because there haven't been studies for example of Amnion tissue injected into a joint and I think that the biggest concern is the claims that are being made and maybe people are being vulnerable to the economics of it. I'm not really sure but I know that I just have my finger on the pulse and it seems like they're gone after fat. We were the first in the world to use fat derived stem cells in 2006 and 2007 we published on using those to treat rheumatoid arthritis and multiple sclerosis. And then a lot of doctors in the US started doing that and now there's a new guidance industry that came out a few months ago that specifically prohibits using it for, for example, taking your own fat, isolating the stem cells out of it and then injecting them in your bloodstream or even injecting them into a joint. So I don't really know the motivation behind it but I know that they very clearly stated that that's not going to fly anymore.