Joe Rogan - What Keeps Elon Musk Up at Night?

What keeps you up at night? Well, it's quite hard to run companies, yeah Especially car companies. I would say it's quite challenging the car business is the hardest one of all the things you do Yes, because it's a consumer-oriented business as opposed to like SpaceX and Not that SpaceX is SpaceX. There's no walk in the park, but But a car company. It's very difficult to keep a car company Alive, it's very difficult You know, there's only two car companies In the history of American car companies that haven't gone bankrupt and that's Ford and Tesla That's it. Yeah, Ford rode out that crazy storm, huh? They're the only one by the skin of their teeth. Shout out to the Mustang Yeah, yeah by the skin of their teeth that is interesting right same with Tesla we barely survived how close did you get to folding? very close we 2008 is not a good time to be a car company Especially a startup car company and especially an electric car company I was like stupidity squared and this is when you had those cool Roadsters with the teatop with the target top Yeah, we had like Use a highly modified Elise chassis. The body was all completely different By the way, that was a super dumb strategy that we actually did was dumb It was based on two false premises one false premise was that we'd be able to cheaply convert the Lotus Elise and use that as a Car platform and that we would be able to use Technology from this little company called AC propulsion for the electric drivetrain and the battery problem is they see propulsion technology did not work in production and We ended up using none of it in the long term none of it we had to redesign everything and Then the once you add a battery pack and electric motor to the car. It got heavier got 30% heavier Invalidated the entire structure all the crash structure everything had to be redone Nothing like I think it had Less than seven percent of the parts were common with any other device including cars or anything Less than seven percent. Yes everything including tires and wheels bolts brakes Yeah, even as you're in well see the steering wheel was I think the steering wheel was almost the same Yes, the windscreen The wind screen right now. I think the wind screen is the same. Yes I think I think we were able to keep the last three seven percent. So that's right. Basically every body panel was different the entire structure was different the We couldn't use the H like the HVAC system the view of the air conditioner was a belt driven air conditioner So now we needed something that was electrically driven. We needed a new AC compressor and all that takes away from the battery life as well, right? Yeah, we needed a small highly efficient air conditioning system That fit in a tiny car and was electrically powered not belt driven It's very difficult. How much did those weigh the? those cars The Roadster, I think it was about 2700 pounds. It's still very long depending on which version 26 50 to 27 50 pounds Something like that and what was the weight distribution? It was about 50 well, they were different versions of the car So is about 55 on the rear because it was Rear bias right but not bad like considering like a 911 which is like one of the most popular sports cards of all time Heavy rear-end bias. Well, I mean Yeah, the 911 like the joke is like the registered Despite Newton not being on their side. Yeah, if you're fighting Newton, it's very difficult Well, it's like you've got this the moments of inertia on a 911 don't make any sense. They do once you understand them Once you understand you don't want to hang the engine off the ass. This is not a wise move You don't want to let up on the gas when you're in a corner the problem with it with it with a With with something that's where the engine is mounted over the rear axle or off the rear axle towards the rear So your pole moment of inertia is fundamentally screwed. You cannot solve this. It's unsolvable You're screwed pull them over inertia is you're screwed Right like essentially if you spawn the car like a top That that's your pole moment of inertia You're just I Promise they wouldn't swear on this show by the way really to who So it's my friend tell that friend to go fuck himself who told you not to swear afraid Good friend. Yes Realize you're fucking Elon Musk do whatever you want, man If you ever get confused call me I'll swear in private Square up a storm just say frickin It's fun way those like old house moms Wives and shit that have children. Oh, yes frickin thing. Yeah But anyway, like like the Porsche is kind of incredible how well Porsche handles given that it's the physics Yes, the moments of inertia are certain so messed up To actually still make it work. Well is is incredible Well, if you know how to turn into the corner once you get used to the feeling of it There's actual benefits to it, you know, there are some of my fits. I enjoy I the car I had before Tesla was at 9-11. Okay, that was 9 9 7 or 6. Yeah Yeah Great car man. Yeah, I mean particularly with on the Porsche turbo when they had the variable veins The turbo and yet didn't have the turbo lag. That was great. Yeah, that was really great The turbo lag was is like, you know if you floor it like phone home call your mom the older one's like about an hour later the car accelerates and Super dangerous too because in the real world start spinning. Yeah. Yeah, there's something fun about it though Like feeling that rear weight kicking around, you know, and again, it's not efficient. I could feel to it Yeah, yeah, I agree. But that's that's what I was talking about earlier about that little car that I have than 93 9 11 It's just there's it's not fast. It's not it's not the best handling car But it's more satisfying than any other car I have because it's so mechanical It's like everything about it like crackles and bumps and it gives you all this feedback And I take it to the Comedy Store because when I get there I feel like my brain is just popping and it's on fire It's like a strategy for me now that I really stopped driving other cars there. I drive that car there just for the brain juice Just for the yeah the inner the interaction. I Mean you should try model SP 100 D. I'll try blow your mind. Okay skull. Okay. Yeah, tell me what to order I'll order it one less P 100 D. Okay, Jamie. That's the best car that I drive. Okay, okay I'll get with the car you drive Okay, it will blow your mind out of your sky. I believe you. How can I drive? How far can I read or miles? That's good for LA regular days. You'll never notice the battery never never How hard is it to get like one of them crazy plugs installed in your house that difficult now? It's super easy It's like yeah, it's like a dryer plug. It's like a dryer outlet