Joe Rogan Watches Joe Louis vs. Rocky Marciano

What the heck? Sis, you fool. Fucking, someone said it would be funny if I just had one black and white and I'm just showing old Joe Lewis fights on it. Like really small. That'd actually be cool. Hahahaha. Yeah. Joe Lewis verse, who was the guy that he had these great fights with? Was it Max Schmeling? Yeah. Yeah, Max Schmeling was unfairly thought of as a Nazi. He was really just a German. He was just a German guy who was a boxer who really didn't want to represent Hitler. Apparently. From what I've read. Yeah. Was he the big rival of Lewis where they had these incredible... Well, he stopped Lewis in the first fight and then Lewis destroyed him in the second fight. Yeah. And the big thing about him beating Lewis was that he beat Lewis and Lewis was... Did he stop Lewis? Hmm. Uh, I think he... Did he think he did it in Lewis... Lewis hardly ever lost. I mean, did he lose one, two fights? Was that... He lost quite a few when he got older in his career. Oh, yeah. He lost to Rocky Marciano by brutal knockout. Ooh. But that was... He was quite a bit older. I think he was in his 40s at the time. But I think when he had the rematch... I think Max Schmeling might have KO'd him. And then when he had the rematch, he destroyed Max Schmeling. Here it is. Lost by KO. Yeah. Oh, okay. Does it say what round? 12 out of 15. 1936. Yeah. And then he came back... Max Baer was another guy. Yeah. He came back and he was a giant hero when he knocked out Schmeling in the first round. He didn't scroll up all the way. How many years later was that? 38. 38, yeah. You remembered first round? Yeah. Oh, he smashed him. Yeah. I mean, that was when Joe Lewis was Joe Lewis. I mean, that was when he had really come into his own. And then he went on this incredible tear. They used to call it the bum of the month club because he was just knocking out anybody who was willing to get in there with him. Yeah. He fought some legit guys and Billy Kahn fought him a couple of times who was actually a light heavyweight. Yeah. Yeah. Buddy Baer was that Max Baer's? It says disqualified. Do you see that 49 and 1? I don't know what happened there. I wonder if that's a relation to Max Baer. Probably. The 1930s must have been... Can you imagine going back to the 30s and the 40s? So look at this. He was the champ all the way up to Ezzard Charles in 1950. Think of that. And he started in 36? Yeah. So the fight with the first fight with Max Baer was 36. With Max Schmeling rather was 30. Oh, right there. Yeah. So he rematched him in 38. The first fight was in 36. Took two years. And then he was all the way the fuck scroll all the way up to the top by the time he lost. He lost to Jersey Joe Walcott. A unanimous decision in 1950. That's incredible. That's 14 years later. Wow. Fucking crazy. No, his first loss was the Ezzard Charles. Ezzard Charles. Sorry. Yeah, he KOed Jersey Joe Walcott. By the way, look at that. You know, Yankee Stadium was the venue for Chicago Stadium. These were huge events. Yeah. You know? And look, he won a bunch of fights after that. He lost the unanimous decision. Scrolled all the way up. And then lost again to Rocky Marciano. So he really only lost three times, it looks like. Three big ones. Unbelievable. Three big ones in the later stages of his career, unless he lost earlier. What's his overall record? It was 66 and 3, according to that top. Yeah. So three losses. So one Max Smair, the brutal one to Rocky Marciano, which ended his career. Did you see that one? Ezzard Charles. The brutal one? Yeah, you want to watch it? It's rough. I love, I love, I grew up watching boxing. Did you? Yeah, and it wasn't pay-per-view. It was up 59. Yeah, it was like network. Yeah, there was a lot of that back then. And there was something, it wasn't pay-per-view, and they were free TV, and I really got into the sport. Like, I was like, I would be like so psyched to see this shit. Yeah. I'd be like, I would watch, you remember a guy named Oscar Bonavilla? Bonavilla. Yeah, yeah. He was like a, he was just like this kind of wild brawler, but he was a big guy, and he'd fight guys like, I don't know if he changed his name yet, Cash is Clay. Oh, what's this? This is Jersey, this is Ezzard Charles, right? Is that Ezzard Charles? Oh, he beat- So that's the loss, but that's not the one we want to see. We want to see the Rocky Marciano one. This is the one where Ezzard Charles was the first guy to beat him, and he beat him by unanimous decision. But first of all, look how much smaller people were back then. Like Rocky Marciano, when he won the heavyweight title, was 15 pounds lighter than me. Is that right? Yeah, think of that. And I think he was only 5'10", and that might have been bullshit. People were a little sketchy about how tall they were back then. Try to find that Rocky Marciano one. This, yeah, I believe at the time, I think when he was the champ, he was 185 pounds. Maybe 190 pounds. And Marciano was known, like Marciano was known for just having unbelievable strength in his punches. Like he did just fucking- Yeah, that's what he was. Is this it? Yeah, this tank of an immigrant. Brocktown Brawl, like he was from Massachusetts. Yeah. Brockton. Is that him? He looked small. Yeah. Yeah, he's 15 pounds lighter than me, man. Lewis is a lot bigger. Lewis isn't even that big. Lewis is probably 200 pounds back then. That was a heavyweight back then. It's just a different world. People didn't have that kind of food. They didn't have enough to eat. They didn't have the nutrition knowledge. They didn't have steroids. They didn't have weightlifting. They had weightlifting, but boxers really didn't engage in that. It's very rare. They thought it stiffened you up. They didn't understand that the stiffening you up is just as you're getting sore and that you have to recover from that. And that's how you get bigger and stronger. Boxers today, if you look at Anthony Joshua, who's the heavyweight champ in the world now. Is he? You look at him, yeah. He's an English fellow. He's a tank. Is he? Oh, man. You look at Anthony Joshua. He looks like a superhero. Do those guys have as much stamina as these guys do though? Oh, yeah. They do today. Yeah, because the conditioning methods that they have today are just so superior. They understand rest and recovery and they monitor your heart rate and they're monitoring lactic acid buildup and creatine in your blood. So the science is really, it's such a scientific. If they engage in that, some people still take it old school, but I just think they know more about what gets you in condition and high intensity conditioning drills, high reps. Rocky Marciano had something that you can't teach people, which is just brutal strength, brutal power. He just had the ability to land these bone crushing shots. And he also was insanely tough. You're dealing with just a different time. Like I was having this conversation with my wife this morning. We were talking about old school. Keep that going. See the end is brutal. Oh, he just knocked down. Hit him with a left hook. Dropped him. And this is an older Joe Lewis. How old was Joe Lewis at the time of this young Jamie? Does it say? And Marciano. How old was Marciano? He was in his prime. I think Marciano was 30 or something. He is a lot smaller than him. Does it say? No. He was older. Yeah, 1951. He got knocked out by Marciano. That's crazy. God, I love Braddock. I love that Cinderella story. You see that with Russell Crowe. It's like fucking great. Yeah.