Joe Rogan & Vinnie Paz on Mumble Rap

And I don't want to not be who I am because if I I wouldn't want to do that Success wouldn't mean anything to me if I got there by not being me Hmm, you got to live with that and that's worse than not succeeding to me Yeah You know, I don't know about other people a lot of people just fake it But I'm not who they are and they're okay with that if it comes with success in order for me to shift to I am inherently My fiber my being the way that I was raised to treat people If I had to shift that and have success I the success wouldn't be success to me It would be on paper business is just so strange right and I Don't know how you feel about mumble rap, but mumble rap is one of the weirdest things to me. It's I'm confused. It's bizarre It's bizarre what is happening? I just I feel like I feel like I don't want to be that dude who doesn't get it Right. All right, you know, I mean, you don't get it. I don't get it either. I don't but When you start dealing with youth culture and when I was the age of these mumble rap kids They were older head saying, you know the the generation before us the the cold crush brothers to the big daddy Kings and they probably thought what we were doing was crazy. So is that what's happening? I don't know Maybe everyone's like what the fuck is that? It's like I It's to the point with me where I'm like, yo, is that even a genre of rap? Right. I almost look at it I guess I don't I guess I don't have a problem with it because I don't process it as anything close to what I do Right. It's almost like if you said yo, what do you think about EDM? I'd be like, I don't know I guess it's all right It's right. I don't even look at it Like I can't listen to that and then let hear big daddy Kane and think it's the same thing When we were kids listen to music right if you were you were listening to something that you enjoyed One of the things you loved was like good lyrics, of course and when you can't understand what they're saying Yeah, it's also it's just so driven by if it's like phrase driven. Yeah, they just say whatever the line over and over and over again Yeah, I don't know if like it's just cuz these kids are doing Molly or whatever Yeah, and they're just in the zone is it drug culture because that's happened before too You know one thing creates the other it's like chicken or the egg are these kids doing Molly and make mumble rap Are they doing mumble rap and they eat Molly? Right and it's all it's you know, the 60s going back to the 50s and beat mix and that scene and jazz and heroin and What created it? You know what I mean that miles and Coltrane make some of those records because they were on her on or right Vice versa and it's happened historically. Is this just a drug driven culture? I don't know because I it's I'm detached, you know, I'm detaching that and I and You know, I'm a kid who grew up, you know, listening to metal and stuff like that So I don't I'm not at a shortage for I'll listen to Slayer I'll just listen to Slayer before I listen to that if that's my only option right and I listen to Slayer You know what I mean? I listen to black flag. I'll listen to minor threat. That's what I'll do, you know it so there whether I However, I feel about it becomes irrelevant when you realize that You have so much good shit out there So I don't need it's like with film like I'm not worried about a bad movie. I'll just watch a dope movie, right? There's so many movies and not throwing them away, right? Yeah, and it's what like yo, I'll just listen to Thin Lizzy right if I if I don't feel like Adjusting to that, you know what I mean? And there's other things that we might not get because we're not doing what we used to do Maybe we're out of the bar of the club five nights a week and you weren't married with kids and we were hammered Maybe it sounds different. You know, it's time and play shit. Yeah, it's like you hear certain songs You're like, I'm not listening to my car. I'm blowing the windows up if someone sees this Yeah, but maybe it affects them differently in a live environment. It's something. I don't know. I'm playing devil's advocate Just just it's just a strange trend where it's a lot of mumbling. I'm like what is I don't know what they're on about cough Yeah, I think this is lean and Molly I just and I think that that that drug culture created that I think a friend of mine who's a real estate agent Some mumble rapper was working in the house and she's like I literally had no idea what the fuck he was saying So he's talking him talking as a human. He mumbles. Who is it? Yeah Wow, just mumbling is all about my mom. See I didn't know that I thought it was like their style when they run But maybe just this one which she was showing him this dope house and he's mumbling up a storm Wow So he's like asking her for jacuzzi and she thinks he's ordering a pizza I don't know. I mean, I you know, I love listening to Nas and I love listening to public enemy clean lyrics Yeah, you know that had had a hit to them. There was a car as well. Yeah. Yeah big daddy Can yeah, that's that's that's a side of the police. That's it. Yeah There was there was something to it though that you knew that they were trying to get a message across Along with the music or something cool about it. Yeah, though I think I think maybe these kids think you can't do both. Yeah, and our era was different It's like people could dance to public enemy and they were talking about what was going on in urban community Yeah, that that Arab you could there were there were boogie down production KRS records You could dance the sound of the police you danced out of here you could dance I think there was a there's a disconnect with these kids that they don't think you can say something and Have people dance or whatever. I don't know what these fucking mumble motherfuckers do they might just slobber in the corner It's just well, they all have to have tattoos on their face. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's another program That's like another mockery the tattoo tell you settle down man, you know, they don't come off, right? You know, it's like I think these kids think they can come off. I don't think they care. I just don't think they care I don't think they're thinking I mean, it's all this I don't give a fuck culture Yeah, it's like you just and like they're not trying to get cool shit on their face. They're trying to get like scribbles Yeah, no, it looks like you know, the you know, you draw on the face of the drunk hate at the party That's what they all look like. Yeah, you know They all look like that with pink dreads There's a lot of rap music that slipped through the cracks to like a lot of people forget about gang star Yeah, and they're the one of the greatest groups ever. Yeah