Joe Rogan - Urijah Faber & Cody Garbrandt Detail Origins of TJ Dillashaw Conflict

Hello freak bitches This is an interesting fight coming up for you to be fighting TJ after training with him for so long and all the bad blood That you guys have a TJ leaving the team and going to train with Dwayne not so much about the team That's there's a lot of confusion about what what went down and it's it's what it's laid out for people because TJ Trained with you guys for a long time. Here's if I send you a text. I'll show you the four-minute video of him explaining Exactly what happened which is you know, you don't have to do that But you tell me from your point of view so TJ left the team like said hey look I First off it was it was Them done ultimate fighter with Connor with with the cop. Yeah, he came from that cuz he was there and that's what we're defending him That's why I'm kind of like, yeah took it to cuz he like I'm all about loyalty and like we don't you don't do that And I never really liked Dwayne Especially way he left because he was a strange guy and like it was always about money and weird things etc Etc, but he left and that was like fine. That was his deal TJ was gonna try to have him come back and train at our gym For his fight and Dwayne refused to do it and I had a talk with teaching He's like it was crying and like, you know that that Dwayne just wanted to focus on his own gym and this and that and he's Like, you know, whatever and so he's like I'm gonna spend some time there and spend some time here, etc. Like that's fine so TJ When he got there got some exposure for muscle farm and muscle farm Was let me help people out here Dwayne Ludwig's former kickboxing champion It was an MMA fighter who fought in the UFC and then went on to be a coach for a year I for a year and for a second. No, no, he coaches now a lot, right? It with his own gym, but for you guys He was your striking coach for a little bit for a year and three months and he worked with a bunch of fighters And he had a very special relationship with TJ Right, then he moved out to Denver and he moved out Denver to fight his own to start his own thing and then muscle farm Which has a big gym in Denver. They invited TJ to come train there So fill in the blanks for people that don't know the story that aren't maybe big-time fans so then see yeah, so then he he basically said that he wanted a That he wanted to uh, he was doing his camps there for about a year and a half He'd spend a little time there a little time here Most of the time he lived in Sacramento most time there we go work with Dwayne. No problem with it I had cornered with Dwayne even after he left with with, you know guys and stuff like that wasn't an issue So then I heard Dwayne actually text me and was like Dwayne said something like Well, I mean there's a whole side of the Dwayne thing, which is hilarious that Was him getting weird like a year after he left like acting like he was there He like tried to sue me for a figment of his imagination of some money that wasn't even there and like this whole thing He had like as one of his students write this thing. So there is something where he said that I'd like I Can't even remember like something like I didn't give him a discretionary bonus. It was supposed to be given or something like that and so There was like some some like intermingling about that whatever So Dwayne text me and says and I said dude, I never said I had to set the record straight on Dwayne and Dwayne Text me and says hey, I'm not the one trying to steal your team and your fighters I know there's a team out here in Denver Being built but I'm not a part of that and I was like are you talking about and then and I had talked to an Someone else that said that hey, I heard that Matt Brown and TJ Dilla Shaw are getting paid to Be on this team and so I come in and I was like, hey I were talking about some team things and TJ's and practice I go I go I got the weirdest thing Dwayne text me this and This other guy said this I said are you going to like are you getting? Like paid to go be starting a new team or something and it was Cody was there and Lance was there and I was there and TJ like lies straight to us about about the whole thing. He's like, he's like no man No, they offered me but I'm not I'm not I'm with you guys, you know He's like this and that and I was like, okay, whatever then time goes on and We have an actual sit down talk we go eat sometimes and everything in TJ Chad Mendez My buddy Phil we all go and eat and TJ just tells me like hey man My next camp I'm gonna go out to Denver which he'd already been going out to Denver It'd been like a year and a half since Dwayne to be gone. It wasn't like he like gone or whatever He's like but muscle farm offered me like some some real good money to like be part of their team He's like so I'm basically I'm no longer gonna be representing team alpha male. I Like I'm gonna do my camp out there and I'm gonna you know for they're gonna announce me how much money we're talking about He told me the time was I think forty five hundred bucks a month a month And they were gonna rent him a house and I go and I was like, okay and Chad was sitting right there He just sit there. I'm go. I go well shoot man. It was nice having you on the team and he's like Why are you getting upset? I go. I'm not upset I'm just saying like like you're off the team then and he's like, well, yeah, but he's like, but I have a house here I'm still gonna come back and like come in and spar and when I'm in town in the offseason or whatever and I'm like I'll real weird to you guys for real weird. And then I said I said well I Said so that so he was no longer gonna be on our team. He was gonna be on a different team and But then he wanted to come in at the time. I'm ranked number three in the world Cody and him are going at it in practice It's anybody's given day, you know, we can look at the footage if you guys have the footage you know, but uh, and then holds worse seven and oh and and had just won the ultimate fighter and So she just basically saying is leaving the team. I go bro Tj. I said I said you can you know You're welcome to stay on the team. But like if you're if you're no longer on the team like What does that mean? He's like, well, I mean, it's just a good opportunity, man They like I don't they don't have to pay they pay me to train and and like, you know It's they're starting a team and everything's gonna be under one roof and I go. All right, cool That's anybody ever done that where it worked. I don't know. They always try that black But here's the thing. So then after that it was like he's like he's gonna leave in two weeks And so me and teach me and Cody are sitting in there and like we hadn't said anything I told Fabio our instructor Our jujitsu instructor what was happening and he told someone in Brazil as a Brazilian in Brazil leaked it out that Tj was changing camps and there's all this drama and and this and that and then I said look TJ so he he was coming in and Tj was never the best teammate. He would like try to hurt people He's a very competitive guy and he has a temper and like try to hurt people. How? Sean cheap shot it We always add the bell boxing he Nia He's like I just need him to the bottom like yeah, we're boxing smart. He needs you to the body Did asked there's no secret about TJ's I mean he'll we talked about it when he was still on the team also that he had to be like Reeled in a little bit right? He's just he's just got a temper. That's why I called him kill Shaw Yeah, kill a Shaw dilla shank like all that kind of stuff I mean it was it that was his thing you know yeah, super competitive aggressive guy and cheap shots Yes, yeah the super competitiveness like I'm competitive I don't want to lose someone takes you know I'm fighting tooth and nail not to get taken down or get that extra win that round It just act in the bell knees. You know I mean that's why Chris is out You know I mean need him in the back of the head Yeah, that's it. I mean Chris holds birth. That's where the injury I mean I don't want to Chris doesn't want us really talking about that That's we're talking about cheap shot, and that's what was that is me. He doesn't care if we talk about it I mean I guess truth. That's what happened. What how did it go? I'm not say It was a materialize. I remember instinctively Dwayne used to come up to Chris like hey like grasshopper He's like we have you know TJ's fight And you take it easy on you take easy on Chris is a killer killer fucking him up everybody I mean Chris is the animal and I guess Chris choked him out and TJ got out and fucking even in the back of the head what he's down and he was down on the mat I mean grappling match Or were they sparring it was buying, but knees to the back of the head. That's what? Why have a Chris submitted? I mean just dirty shit I've been a couple times I told so Chris let him up let it let him submit it them let him off and then teach I need him in the back of the head I don't know if that's exactly how it was I I remember seeing the whole thing I don't really want to get in this because it's Chris's gig man. Yeah, that's fine But we already got in yeah, I already got into it. Just but yeah, so it's like about TJ being a cheap child I guess that's what literally killed Chris's career Yeah majority of them obviously concussions. Yeah, we grew good friends with Chris, and he's not together You know they live together Yeah He went through it is that's why his last fight was he had to fight with concussion because he you know he was scheduled to fight This is why I just like that And you know we've all you know it's one of the things that when I first came out there I was never really close with TJ. I was out there I was doing well with the guys and a couple of the guys told me that man TJ can't wait to spar you This is this is when he was coming off as Rafael since I lost I was like cool like fucking I'm I can't wait to spar with him either. He's better. It's gonna be a good round You know and I was pretty warned like hey TJ does some cheap shit. Just you know keep it cool And and either video I think I have some One of the kids that was a boxing and he sent it to me a month ago T-day like cheap shot me after in the bell I was like remember telling TJ. I said look motherfucker you cheap shot me again We're taking the gloves off. We're going in the street and fighting. Yeah, I had to talk buddy down Yeah, I just don't ever like that especially teammates. You don't do that shit like hey You get me you get me, but don't cheap shot me at the end of the bell And then as soon as you're hitting someone after chief right you're like oh, dude I'm sorry like you know what you're doing so anyway so anyways that being said We knew that was part of TJ's thing, but now he's not a longer part of our team and he's also Getting paid to go somewhere else He's no longer contributing in any way And he wants to come in and come in and spar our guys and like right like he basically want to be on our team benefit of our team without Being a part of the team anymore and getting paid to be somewhere else which I would have been fine He talked to me about like hey I want to work something out where I go get paid and do this whatever, but then I'm like okay, so that whole week he's in there and He's sitting there watching me and Cody in practice, and he I don't care. I mean TJ is a competitive He's always looking for edge the whole week prior to telling us that he was leaving he kept getting like hey There's a getting some proprietary series in this series. There's a single-leg guard series I used to get him with these like have me and Martin can't show him all this stuff We were working on I can you show me this and show me that like the week before and then So I was like I go TJ look man. This is getting awkward in practice I said look we can I had him over at my house. I said look we can build a friendship How we want to do it? I said, but this is getting awkward and like you being in in practice You no longer being on the team and everything else like you know Let's finish out this this last couple days, and then you know you be on your team We can be friends on on the outside We can work on that as a deal whatever and he's like like you he wanted to come in and train with our team still You know as not as not part of the team, right? And then I was like, but you're welcome to stay on our team obviously if you want continue to do your camps and whatnot and He is just like Like out so that at that point it became him Taking this opportunity going to Denver being with Dwayne getting paid to do the muscle farm thing And then the whole thing with Connor happened on the TV show before this Before any of this happened Connor McGregor started calling him a Call him a snake because Me and Connor had one conversation. We're sitting there and he goes he goes man congratulations on TJ Defending his belt because he was still on our team his last title defense, and I go thanks He goes but what's up with Dwayne saying that no one on your team wants to be champions. That's weird I said oh, he's just bitter cuz you know he's trying to get everyone to go out to his camp But you know he's just being a hater this and that and he goes he took that little bit of Drama between me and Dwayne like Dwayne saying that no one on our team want to be your champions including Cody who sent him a text a tweet that said hey keep my name out of your mouth You're like a jealous girlfriend or whatever and he took that one little thing and then next time he saw TJ goes Oh, there's a snake in the grass and just built it in this big thing So that's crazy how well he is so good at seeing people right yeah, so that took like what really happened Which was TJ got paid to go somewhere else me saying alright fine if you're gonna do that's cool But like you know if you're on that team you're on that team and then then Connor turned the public around on him yeah Because it came out later after the thing and so then TJ became the victim And then he and now TJ's new story is that I I I got mad that he was training with Dwayne Ludwig And I kicked him off the team well you know TJ now has a snake as his logo. I know yeah On the ultimate fighter he brought in snakes you know I mean he would just he's at home with it You know yeah, that's cool with it, so it's all good. How weird we wanted back a little bit Like if you want to be friends let's be friends, but don't don't don't lie We're going back to it I remember going to Canada the whole it was during the ultimate fighter sticking up for for TJ Because TJ wasn't saying that Connor's basically you know like inviting him to fight and and teachers like yeah You know like nonchalant like whatever about it But wasn't defending himself like I'm not a snake someone calling me a snake in the grass and say I was like Disloyal to my teammates and shit I'm we're fighting and that's why I stuck up for TJ because TJ is literally I'm like we're partying in Vegas We're having a good time like for the first time you know kind of a heart-to-heart with him with TJ Yeah, and he's like so he's telling me this shit like he said dude I'm with you guys like I'm not leaving fuck that like I'm with you guys So I'm like this is not even that I'm not that close with TJ, but he's part of the champion. He's you know Even the champion you get taken care of and people you know I defend them so Connor was doing that he's like what do you guys gonna do and it was talking about TJ? So I was like man I'll do something about like you're asking for a fight with fighting You know broken right pushing match and it was going out to the outside That's TJ saying that we were that he's with us. I'm like dude. He's not gonna talk about my team So how does it feel now? Knowing that you're gonna defend against TJ with all this weird drama all this bullshit for me I don't ever get wrapped up into it. It might look like that with the show and and This is my life's been like this Yeah, I can live and prosper and focus on when it's time to focus and die It's like a flip in a switch like I can be doing the dumbest shit like you're fighting Dom the crews We're in the back just doing dumb shit. I might even warm it up I'm just I'm just flipping the switch always was like that since I was a little kid like wrestling football I just when the lights shine. That's why I like I shine the brightest. I always feel like and now with TJ I Don't respect him as a person But doesn't mean I don't respect him as a fighter the guy is skillful He's mean as fuck and he's gonna bring a fight. That's gonna be what I I love the challenge like with TJ It's gonna be a challenge I know him like the back of my hand my coaches know like the back man We were able to dissect dominant crews for me, you know through all their experiences This is a guy they build up that was there longer than I've been you know I went out there at 1 and 0 I had 10 fights now with the team alpha male 11 now 11. Oh world champion through the you know, obviously I was skilled before I got there We blended together that the recipe for success I listened to follow lead with Faber and a lot of other guys on the team And you so we know TJ. I know what he's gonna do. I know what I have to prepare it for So I'm excited for it like all the drama bullshit Hey Whatever like it's been it's going on too long Like I'm just ready to focus on this fight and go in there and do what I have to do to get this win You have a good mindset I mean think that is the gigantic part of what makes someone successful in the sport is Being able to do that like you said having the confidence that you're gonna shine the brightest when the lights are on and Having this mindset like you're appreciating the fact that TJ is mean and skillful. Okay, it's gonna give you a great challenge Yeah, it's like man. I'm selling the couch or something like you we think TJ is doing he's sitting on the couch So you're getting I'm gonna do the extra work work, you know, TJ is a workhorse like that As for me makes me motivated. I need these guys to keep me motivated like Dominic, you know He's I watched the embeddings of him. He was running alone, you know, like a sob story on Christmas like I just gotta do this I like it. I'm sitting there, you know, we're having a party. Yeah Enjoy this shit like I'm about to fight for my first title, you know, I've never had this time again in my life I'll never fight for my first world title now It's I'm fine. I'm just finally getting to defend my title who cares a lot of we were talking about There's a lot of people win the title, but what the fuck did they do with right? You know now it's about creating that legacy and now I have TJ who's man. He's a bad motherfucker He was ranked in the pound for pound before and the top ten. You know, he's a killer So that's it. I'm gonna catapult my career with him and I know I'm gonna do to do with him You know, I like I've been with I want to know when I was green is how just boxing wrestling Athletic love to fight now. I've blended and found my own style and just filing I'm getting really Composed in there where I can let my show my skills show off and it's I'm fighting higher people So like my skill level rise I've always was like that now. What is this video? Supposedly of you knocking him out. Oh, yeah. Yep. Oh Yeah, true. It's really how come you guys didn't release it? I Don't first off I don't have my video. I have seen it. It's just it was on Justin's GoPro and dude this I Literally that I felt bad not bad for it because it was just whatever TJ came followed me around the gym Like I wherever I'd go put my gym back away like this. Hey, man, I slipped dude. I'm like, okay Literally like he was off his rocker about I'm okay. He's super competitive How did it go down what happened I remember him throwing uh, you know Doing his little footwork and then he did the jump down He does the uppercut and I just threw overhand right boom Out and he got up and he was literally fighting Easton right before the Easton flex. I remember the today He didn't go out cold like flat out. He just got dropped off and came back came and he was on Thank you leg like Walker and he's gonna come on motherfucker hit me I'm like just like I'm like like palm my jibe out like now saying that after you dropped him. Yeah, he's fucking not I love it. So yeah, he's always like god. I'm just like Jesus a fucking Wasn't a knockout as much as it was you just dropped him. Yeah, I dropped him To his I mean he his legs forward I'm gonna get back up and started saying come on motherfucker. So he was conscious right and he knew that he was staggering Bro, he looked like John Dotson had him on skates again. Let's see. That's what I was ago Okay, and he I'm not gonna hit him you're fighting in two weeks I wasn't like that But literally he had to say he fell forward he slipped I'm like dude doesn't matter like I'm not gonna say anyone You know and then I was showing Danny how I like to steal because he likes over and right It's how I like to throw my head off the lane bring the right hand this and that and buckles comes over He's like dude he goes and it was on it was Christmas Day or something sparring Filming his own film his own sparring. He's a good awesome watch you knock TJ out and I was like, oh, yeah I was like, okay He said I have it on my GoPro like oh, that's cool and then nothing ever came about it And then TJ was saying that he used to make me cry in practice No, I have cried in practice for cuz this motherfucker jumped me on my head before that I made a fight I was like super mad about it favorite comes in has a camera crew at the purest labs and Like we're going hard like don't show my head. I'm like I get mad Like, you know, I'm like try not to get hurt before the fight So like I never cried Tita never made me cry So I was like, what is he talking about making me cry like I'll admit if I cried and practice when you get dumped in your Head, did you get concussed or something? You'd hurt more like very things. I'm like He's out he cried pride pride. Yeah, probably say favor comes in just come on. I don't barely remember this I think what's happened first off. Here's the thing Cody is a dangerous dangerous Motherfucker if you're not on your even if he's not trying to you're getting fucking rocked or hurt or whatever So I have to be on on a game with him even if you're going light, you know Unless he's gonna go light but light doesn't work when the guy's accurate and strong everything else So we had to go so it was just like a like a wizard hip heist Launched me dude launched me on my head because you were coming after me So I know now when there's a camera crew fall in favor it's not light it's it's fucking the fight That came from about the video and like coming out like we have the video of you getting knocked out TJ You didn't make it. He was saying you made us beat us all up like with the Dominic sit down No, I think Dwayne was maybe saying that or something. Well, he said Dominic's they only beat your teammates up. He's yeah, I actually for a matter of fact have been beating him up