Joe Rogan - TJ Dillashaw Wants Super-fight with Henry Cejudo

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T.J. Dillashaw

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T.J. Dillashaw is a UFC Bantamweight Champion.

Duane Ludwig

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Duane "Bang" Ludwig is a mixed martial arts coach, retired professional kickboxer and mixed martial artist.

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There's a possible super fight with you and Henry Sahuda that's being talked about. Hell yeah. Would you fight him at 125? 25s. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I don't want no excuses that I'm the bigger man. Well, he probably is bigger than you, quite honestly. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I- He struggles to get to 30, or from, uh, to down to 25. 25s. I mean, he's way over 35. Especially with the coach I have now, Sam Calavita. It's like, I was told I was gonna fight, um, Demetrius Johnson the summer before I fought Cody the first time, because Cody had to pull out because of his back. Within three weeks of time, I got down to waking up to 140 pounds by changing my- the way I'm working out, changing my calories, changing my macronutrients, and, uh, myself, like, just going full board. Like, I was able to start waking up in the morning at 140 pounds within three weeks. And so, right now, you're about 10 plus pounds heavier than that. Mm-hmm. And how much time would you need? Like, if they said, hey, December 31st, New Year's Eve, super fight. Yeah, my coach- my coach always wants, like, the, like, actual- like, he told me, like, before, after my last fight. I mean, he's 16 weeks, but, I mean, obviously, we could do it a lot faster. I could have made 25s this last fight, um, with how much water I had in me. The, the hydration that he's got me going on when I get close to a fight, too, is, it's the easiest. I don't do, I don't do baths anymore. Like, I, to make weight, I walked on the treadmill with plastics. For how long? Mm, the day of, I'd say 30 minutes. I sat in the sun a little bit. So, you're only losing, like, four or five pounds most, right? Yeah, in the morning, yeah, probably, like, three or four or five pounds, yeah. Wow. Yeah. What's the massive benefit to you in terms of your conditioning? Oh, huge. You ain't having fluid on your brain, your, your cardio, um, your muscular contraction and endurance. I mean, everything. I mean, when you deplete yourself like that, like you're talking about during till, maybe cut too much weight, that could definitely be a possibility, you know? For sure. I mean, he's huge. Till's a big guy to get down to 170. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that is the, it's the, trying to find the right balance where you're big for the weight class, but you're not diminishing yourself really drastically to get down to your weight class. And the Henry Sahudro thing also entertains me so much because he's a gold medalist. You know, he wants to, he wants to claim himself as the greatest combat athlete ever. I'm a UFC champion. I'm a gold medalist. Like, I'll go out there and beach in wrestling. MMA wrestling is completely different. I'm the better athlete. I'm going to, I could beat him anywhere. I know I can watch it and fight. So that's what I'm very excited about. I think it's the greatest thing for my name right now. Um, I, I'm very, it excites me a lot. It excites me a lot too, to be able to show the science behind not only myself and my coach and, and, and Dwayne in the system, like everything, like I'm, I'm all in dude, whatever we're doing, I'm a hundred percent in. I don't take any shortcuts and, uh, I want to show that I want to show that I can make 25s and be my best ever as well. Now Demetrius is injured, right? He's out for a little while. Yeah. So this is one of the reasons why the talk of this super fight is coming up. Yeah. Like it is, Demetrius is going to need a few months so he can't have an immediate rematch. So perfect. Have they talked to you about it proposed? You know, there's been, so there's nothing been like serious, but there's been like a hints and like we did our media tour together and they put us on camera together and how to talk shit to each other. Nice. I mean, they didn't like, they didn't say that, you know what I mean? Cause everything's real. Everything we do is real, but it's like, Oh shit, this is what you guys want. Right. You know? And like, you really think you can beat me then fuck you, man. Let's do this shit. You know, like that's where I get my motivation from, from fighting is, is not the anger, not it's, it's the, the competition. And does he want to go to 35? He told me face to face, he's willing to do it at 25. 25. Yeah. Yeah. That's what he first said after the fight is that he wanted to, he wanted the super fight. Right. That's what he, his idea. So he said, come up to 35. So I told him, I was like, look, we're doing this. I'm coming to 25. So I have no problem with that. He's got more street credit to drop a division. It's a division. It's DJ, right? So yeah, it gives you more street credit for sure. Well, it's certainly doesn't win the title. And no excuses of the bigger man. I don't want him to come to 35 and he whip his ass and be like, Oh, well he's, cause he's a 35 pounder. He's a 35 pounder too. Yeah. I'll whip your ass. He's a huge one 25. He really is. I mean, you take out the weight cutting. There's not much difference between you two guys. And when you say that, how much better I am. Oh, but that's true. Henry hang on. But when you saw him and Demetrius together, I mean, he's a much bigger person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How much weight does he lose? Who's that? Yeah. So who do I know? Good question. I mean, he's a big guy in the fifties when he shows up to fight week, he looks like he's cutting weight already. You know, when I show up to fight week, I haven't even really started yet.