Joe Rogan - The Incident That Made Candace Owens a Conservative

This you're a very popular what I would call conservative thinker, but you're very young I am like, how did this all happen? How did you become this Fox News personality conservative thinker? Yeah, I mean I just like launched a YouTube channel and Fucking you to yeah YouTube where magic happen you just a strange place. It's strange as a strange place. Yeah Well, it's the internet and the internet Strange things happen on the internet. But yeah, I just kind of I was really passionate I understood I had studied for like it sounds strange like I spent a year underground like studying Politics once I had my red pill moment if that's what you want to explain that because you used to be a liberal Right and then you became a conservative. That's correct. So what was it? So the story like really starts with like high school, I guess like there were you know How things can happen you in life? They don't make sense when they happen you're like why God me and then like you get a little older and you're like this makes Perfect sense, right? So I was the quote unquote victim of a hate crime when I was in high school when you say quote unquote victim I hate the word no, I hate the word victim and it's I'm like and again early I can see why early on I've sort of developed This mentality that like being there's no value in being a victim and people rush to call people a victim They rushed to call somebody aggressor. So how do you describe it that you experienced a high experienced something that was labeled a hate crime I wouldn't even call it hate crime I think we live in a label obsessed culture and before we seek to understand what happened we seek to like put in a box Yeah, like so what someone has to be a demon and someone has to be an angel So what happened was I received some voicemail messages from about four kids and that like, you know The language was it was pretty strong. It was like rent a tar and feather your family We're gonna put a bull in the back of your head. We did tomorrow Luther King like, you know n-word n-word n-word And you received these on your phone on my cell phone. Yeah, how'd they get your phone number? Well, there was a prank phone call So I didn't know I was like for male voices and I was like in high school at the time and I was like Okay I cannot think of for a human beings that want me dead that would say like we're gonna Put a bullet in the back of your head like we did to Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks like naming on school Where were you what part of the country Stanford High School in Connecticut? Okay, that's a shithole. Yeah, it's a total shithole Hey Connecticut. Yeah, no, I can I think it's on the shithole. It's a running joke. I'm sorry My buddy Tommy jr. He lives in Connecticut and I'm always telling dude You got to move out of Connecticut and it became this terrible running joke where I talk about the Connecticut's the worst Bunch of times to work there all the time where what's it? Well, I used to work in all over Connecticut when I was doing stand-up. I would drive from Boston into Connecticut I did like a lot of gigs in Hartford. I did gigs Hartford is a shithole. It's a shithole Bridgeport is a shithole shout out tomorrow and Starling jr. No, yeah He Was a boxer that came out of Hartford. Yeah, big-time boxer Marlin Marlin Starling But when you were in high school, right? Somebody started doing this prank call and shit on you and was this it was all in one night It was all in one. Yeah, I was like four boys was tied to like a boyfriend A boyfriend's house when I got the calls and I just like put to silent because it was like blocked number So I was like I didn't think anything of it and then like when I listened to it Like it was like some pretty horrific stuff. Like I definitely cried, you know, I was 17 years old And then the next day at school I took this like philosophy class and like I don't know what the topic was I don't know what prompted me to raise my hand and like Introduce what had happened last night as like, you know a segue Maybe I just needed to get off my chest but with the teacher like spazz down was like get up We're going to the principal's office like, you know, you have to report this he brings me into the office a principal like Freaked out like she just like the language was like, you know, it was shocking, you know and then she called like the resource officer and then like The next period of my life was like a blackout because it turned out that three of the kids I had never even met Like this was like maybe some kids that had their first beer one of the kids I was like friends with but we were arguing because he was upset that I was like spending so much time with my boyfriend I didn't but he's gay like he wasn't like he just was like jelly You know, like just like I used to hang out with him every day. Sorry. Hang off my boyfriend. It's a stupid thing Maybe it wasn't a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah, no, I he's a 100 percent. Okay from what I'm told but um Yeah, so Just got petty. Yeah jealous And then it was like she were my three friends and they were all gonna get drunk and call these call this black girl And you know, it's easy to say awful things into like this Like if you don't have to look at a human being like it's easy to say awful things But unfortunately for me one of the people in the car happened to be the current governor of Connecticut Sun. Oh So this turned from like some kids prank called to like said some awful things to like front page of the newspaper Throughout the entire city of Connecticut a little bit in New York NAACP outside of my school. I have to leave is like this situation that was talked about outrage culture my first like Introduction to outrage culture and the things that sort of formed my thoughts like this was a very formative experience in my life Which to me it was it was non political But it was like my life wasn't mine Like I went from like sitting down watching I was watching Talladega nights with my boyfriend to being the most discussed person in the state of Connecticut and What was interesting about it was just that because it was the governor of Connecticut Sun that was in this car They had to get the FBI involved to determine the authenticity of the like like maybe she called herself Right they instead of just saying like yes, it was my son He actually let the FBI investigate for six weeks and waited for a son to get arrested six weeks You know what? I mean like did his son deny it Just want to see if they could get away with it. This is politics You know what I mean? Like can we get away with it? Is it possible for us to get away with it, you know, so six weeks of the entire state I didn't I like left school people were like fighting on my behalf fighting left school. You like It was just like yeah Yeah, this was just like it was like a Montraci of a situation and it was one of those things where like literally like letters to the editor It'd be like moms like talk about you know outrage culture, right? Like I don't believe Candice like this happened this girl I believe she called herself like you like I'm just looking for attention one night and I just decided to say I was gonna hang my Family from a tree, isn't it funny that someone would even have an opinion on that? It's bizarre I don't believe her writes letters to the editor. Like I the whole thing is weird retrospectively, right? Like I don't believe her but that is what like life is about right like that same lady's probably about to write a YouTube Exactly so it was the situation that like was just completely out of my control and then as quick as it Happened these kids got arrested and then as quick as it happened. It was over For like everyone but not for me or these kids, right? Like so I never wanted these kids to get arrested like if no one like this whole Situation was taken out of my hands people thought I didn't go to the police like my teacher went to the police it turned Into the zoo these kids were labeled publicly racists, right? The youngest kid in the car was 14 I'm not comfortable with ever labeling a 14 year old racist right or any of these kids racist These are kids and in my opinion adults that failed to act like adults and adults that fail to take a step back and say Okay, why would what would prompt these kids do this? Why is it so easy to be mean, right? Why is it so easy nowadays for children to be mean and no one to me like when I really thought about that I went through like five years of like anorexia because of the situation because of that one. Yeah those Yeah, and yeah, you went through anorexia Yeah, which is so weird now because like people that know me now There's no way you never didn't eat, but I did I did like did not eat for like five years I had issues with anorexia because I mean I actually has a disease that genuinely is about control It's about a certain control of your life, and I felt that I had my like my life was fine And then like people took the narrative I could decide to determine what the narrative was you're in your ear a victim or maybe you're a liar you know your these kids are racist these kids are this and Just nobody really thought that like you actually ruined all of our lives right like for a little bit like these kids went on to have like DUIs and get arrested and got into drugs and It was because of the pressure of everything that happened Yeah, and I was like would have been totally cool with an apology like you know what I mean? Like sorry well good for you for looking at that way and as that's hard to do because everybody loves When they are allowed to get outraged everybody loves get outraged obviously what they did to you was horrible, right? I think a lot of kids especially if they're drinking they don't even understand how stupid and gross it is what they're doing They just know they can do it and they get a thrill out of it And then there's that mob mentality when there's like a bunch of people together doing the same thing Wrap it up and start saying crazy It's really understandable when you just like think about it as a human being and not as somebody who has to have opinion like You're like hey, we're gonna call this black girl right you've got a bunch of kids We're gonna just say mean things to her on the phone, and you don't have to look her in the face, right? Right it's like if I hold up this pen, and I'm like just say mean stuff like someone's gonna You could say anything to this pen so it's it's sort of it was a formative experience that in retrospect I understand has so much to do with why I am who I am because I hated that like that label of ses culture and the Outrage machine and then like okay. We're done, but like you know forget the people that whose lives we just like Now do you know those people anymore? I don't I know like the siblings of them because I was friends like that's the thing like One of the people that was involved I was very good friends with his brother And it's like you're just gonna tell me this kids like a racist like I actually knew the kids mother You know like nobody cared. It was just a story weren't necessarily racist But they were just stupid and mean and being shitty kids And they knew that that was a way that they could scare you right that they could just yeah, and they might have You know like drunk. Maybe it was their first beer right, but people out it can do Well the youngest was 14 Youngest and this person was labeled a racist like that's to me is like that's harsh In people sale would forgive. Oh, how do you not label them a racist what they said was most certainly racist? Yes, the words are racist right can somebody I guess the question is Can somebody say something say a word that is racist and not be a racist human being yes I think no I'm gonna tell you why yes, okay, okay?