Joe Rogan | The A-Rod Steroid Scandal w/Billy Corben

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Billy Corben

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Billy Corben is a documentarian and producer. His new series, "Cocaine Cowboys: The Kings of Miami," is now available on Netflix.

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You also touch on that. I mean there's you're a lot of these people are fucking sketchy folks and you're Exposing how stupid their activity were does that does that ever creep you out if you get nervous like because you're making these documentaries mocking these people and you know rightly so but It's not cocaine cowboys really mocking is more exposing, but this one is like openly mocking this one's really good, man It's really funny and it comes out March 29th. Yes, sir, right. Yeah, and April 5th on VOD. Yeah, and well this one's this one's tough because this is like a fresh wound From my Netflix March 20th. No VOD. I'm sorry theaters March 29th Okay, VOD April 5th so like iTunes Amazon right review on your cable box What kind of release you're gonna get in the theaters? I'm starting off with 12 cities on Friday the 29th, and then I mean is it LA oh, yeah for sure at the Lemley Music Hall Oh three and um and then where else I think San Francisco Boston Miami Orlando There's like 12 cities and then I guess depending on how well it does It's being put up by Greenwich entertainment who just won the Oscar for free solo for best documentary so they know what they're doing and and Like I said, hopefully people will go see it and listen it. I hope it's a comedy. I think it's common We tried to make it Chin-ups and laughing I was like what the fuck man that fucking guy the Tanner was his name again Porter Fisher Porter that guy like what I just Imagine if you got one of those guys in your life, and he's just stuck in your life like shit How do I get this fucking guy out of my life and the fact that he borrowed money from this guy? And then did loan money well loan money to this guy. Yeah Porter loaned it to Tony. Yeah Oh, I saw he borrowed money. Yes order and then didn't pay him and that's what caused this whole thing It is Alex Rodriguez has got to be pulling his fucking hair out going what in the fuck and and Alex was paying everybody So is MLB. I mean everyone was running a muck in Miami like just Hiring private investigators running people down Alex Rodriguez. Actually this isn't in the documentary but um when these convicted felons stole The stolen documents from Porter Fisher who had stolen the documents from Tony Bosch they set him up in this whole Fucking tanning salon heist where they're like hey, why don't you go in and try this new spray tan color? It's it's Trumpian orange Go go try it on and while he's in the fucking spray tan machine They open his car and steal these documents which has have these client lists of all these famous Baseball players including the highest paid baseball player in the world a rod and so they steal it and then they turn around And sell these stolen documents to major league baseball for cash some MLB has this ragtag band of Misfits these this internal FBI like their own internal investigations division that they created after the Balco Steroid scandal they're running a muck. They are seducing nurses former nurses from Tony Bosch's clinics They are literally in diners With convicted felons handing over bags of cash from some MLB slush fund I don't imagine they were gonna 1099 the guy and I don't know where this cash came from 125 grand and What they did was is that the felon who was doing it had a buddy at a neighboring table at this diner with his cell phone recording video recording this transaction and then he turned around and went to a rods camp and Said I'll sell you a video of me selling Known stolen documents. Everybody knew these documents were stolen So MLB is buying these stolen records stolen evidence in the state of Florida Department of Health investigation for cash from a felon at some point he gets like Freaked out and nervous and he deletes this video off the hard drive He winds up selling a rod a blank hard drive for six figures Okay, and a rod sends this hard drive a rods people Send this hard drive around the world to like data recovery services to try to get this video back so Unfortunately, the felon didn't get his second six figure payment because that was that was the first six figures were against The recovery of the debt, but he got like two three hundred grand to sell a rod a blank Hard drive and a rods dropping money on private investigators who were like having car chases through South Miami it was just totally crazy and and It's like I always say like you come down to the swamp and roll around you're gonna get some mud on you So when MLB came down to to Miami one of the guys Rome Hill the the former Baltimore cop turned Florida Department of Health investigator He he says unequivocally that major league baseball's Investigators broke the law in the state of Florida and should have been Prosecuted for it and held accountable for it and never and never were I mean it's good to be a multi Billion-dollar monopoly. Well, how old was a rod when the scandal broke? I rod was definitely towards the end of his career. And so that's the interesting thing about let's be real I don't give a shit about steroids in baseball and This era of steroids in baseball was not the same as the other, you know, the Barry Bonds, you know Kind of era of steroids in baseball These were not guys, you know with next the size of my waist or anywhere micro dosing They were micro dosing and it was HGH and testosterone and a lot of these guys. I mean listen, they're they're Livelihoods are contingent upon their physical performance. Yes, and so you got to play like what is it? 162 games in 180 days. It's the most physically grueling Schedule of any of the of the professional sports and guys have always been looking for an edge in the 1950s The Yankees were going out the Copacabana all fucking night. Apparently, there's an Adderall issue with baseball as well Absolutely a disproportionate number of baseball players compared to the general population on Adderall. That's a perform That's why I said it's a performance of course enhancing drug But you had guys like Mickey mantle and whitey Ford and Billy Martin Partying all night at the Copacabana. They have to make a 1 p.m. Game. Maybe even a double-header. They're doing greenies They're doing amphetamines. It's always been a part of of Baseball's finding that edge now you got guys who were just looking to maybe recover a little faster you know who from from injuries or fatigue you're looking for guys who are looking to maintain peak performance for a Longer period than their bodies might have otherwise allowed Is it that big of a deal? I don't know it's not and it's it's it's a weird deal It's a weird thing that we have an issue with like you look if they did the same sort of stringent testing with NFL players You'd find out that everyone's on steroids. That's just a fact You don't get people that big and they do catch them every now and then but I feel like it's like one of those things We're like, you know how the drug cartels they'll let some Drug drug shipments get busted so that the other ones will get through I almost feel like that's what they do with with NFL players to get caught like oh look we're testing We got somebody dude. That's what that's what this was with a rod, you know, Bud's e-league is the steroid commissioner Full stop that's the bottom line. His tenure was marked by the famous, you know Barry bond Derby or yeah well mark wire and Sami Sosa absolutely so he knowingly I believe Exploited and profited from that era of baseball that really saved them after 94 players strike I mean just look at the size of those guys where they started. Yeah. Yeah I mean so many of them Literally worse than the documentary we morph them from like a before and after me because they're They turn into fucking baseball monsters smacking balls to Guantanamo for Christ's sake What's interesting to me is that some people recovered from that stuff and some people did not Jose can say co never recovered. He never recovered in the public eye Does and that's why he's so pissed I guess why the it's fucked up when you're the pioneer in something people really and dude They had a street named after him in Miami Yeah They quietly took that shit down in the middle of the night after decades of naming that street from he was just totally humiliated And I think it's also because he ratted out a lot of guys But so today rod a rod leaked names to try to distract or diffuse, but he did put out a book Yeah, but like it's the public nature of can say co's book. It's like I don't know I'm just guessing but his book was like his book turned out to be like the Who's a can say co's book about stories turned out to be like the steel dossier of baseball? It's like everybody thinks it's pissed and thinks it's a bunch of bullshit and then over time It's slowly proven true right at the end. There's a P tape. Yes, I think that therefore Yeah, well, that's