Joe Rogan SHOCKED By Hitler Conspiracy Theory

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Tim Kennedy

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Tim Kennedy is a Green Beret, retired UFC fighter, founder of Sheepdog Response, and co-founder of Save our Allies: an organization dedicated to rescuing and relocating Americans and allies in war-torn environments. www.timkennedy.com

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Oh, he's unique. What is Finding Hitler all about? Um, this is a show that you're on and it's on a anne. Is that what's on? Yeah, anne is the parent network It airs on history channel and we just Had our third season that just finished airing. What's the thought process behind this? Is it legit? Because a lot of people are like finding hitler get the fuck out of here. They found hitler. He died Yeah, I mean not really we don't know right that's the that's I mean, this isn't like ancient aliens This is we they declassified a bunch of documents um, they both the israelis um, the british and the german's and americans in the past 20 years have been Consistently declassifying documents and there were a bunch of specifically fbi documents that we were spending Millions and millions of dollars actively searching for hitler after the war As was really yeah like millions of dollars like hoover was like no no no send more fbi agents to south america Um to north africa go to the canary islands go to spain trying to find out where this guy went tons of real fbi documents with real leads with real informants some hand or some first eye accounts Saying that they physically so anyways, that's the show is us trying to find out sift through reality and um The fiction of the the allure the mist the mystery of that asshole So what's the official story the official story is that he killed himself, right? Yep. He killed himself in the bunker with david brawn And is there any photographic evidence of his death or anything? So what? The russians got the body and they got his skull um, and when they brought it back to moscow, nobody has ever been able to Independently verify who and what this body is they let one genetic test occur and the body With the bullet holes that they said was hitler And have said and that's the narrative. That's the story. That's all the eyewitness accounts that are in even the vicinity of collaborating with each other um and cooperating each other's testimony Like the closest version because none of it seems to be very accurate is that? Is that okay, here's hitler's skull and when they did the genetic testing, it's that of a 35 year old woman So like oh, well, this isn't hitler, but they've said for the past 80 years that this is hitler. So Okay First before we start throwing stones at russia, let's go back to 1945 april Ma in berlin you have the allies coming in wrecking shop dropping bombs blowing everything up They can in every single which way you have the russians coming in from the opposite direction They don't even have enough guns to arm all their soldiers So if they have 200 guys they are 200 000 guys They have a hundred thousand guns if the guy in front of you dies, you just pick up his gun That's what's happening in april of 1945 in berlin. So the noose is tightening. There is no I mean it is chaos anarchy Panemonium this I mean you couldn't this is hell on earth is berlin 1945 So I don't know if you could get a real story a real The way that we do it now where we have you know, this forensic experts that come in and Document everything and we look at all the different testimonies say this is this exactly how this just not it's not csi This is 1945 berlin It's crazy so I don't know so there's there was no like absolute proof no And a lot of nazis did escape and go to south america the majority of anyone with power the nurnberg trials were A witch not a witch hunt, but it was to close a chapter so we could start moving forward with communism That's what it was The threat of fascism the threat of hitler the the threat of Killing all the jews the threat of world domination by the nazis that threat's gone. What's the next threat? Communism is communism, right? So that had to be a closed chapter of our history so we could focus our resources And our efforts to what inevitably was going to I mean the wall goes up. We have east and west berlin You know, we're already looking at korea. I mean this this happens almost overnight right very quickly No, and patin's like no, no homies. We need to go all the way to moscow This is not the end of our war and we didn't listen to him um We then have been you know fighting communism for the past 75 years So the the ones with power that went to south america. I know a bunch of them went to argentina Uh, but they think uh, they went to honduras and a few other places. Where do they think they wound up? So what you had in south america both chile and argentina back to back had fascist regimes regimes You had a perone who was part of the nazi party starting all the way back into the mid 30s He's the president of argentina So the red cross um They were facilitated there was about three different rat lines that guys were able to successfully get out of europe into south america um and These are there's no question that we're talking Thousands if not tens of thousands of high ranking nazis made it there tens of thousands of thousands and i'm not talking like little soldiers i'm talking high ranking nazis officers guys like joseph mingle and adaf eichmann I mean, these are the most disgusting despicable humans to exist at the time if hitler is dead joseph mingle is the guy that would take syringes full of blue ink and inject them oh And oh you have blue eyes joe or you have brown eyes Let me see if I can make them blue. Oh wow and then take twins and start torturing them to see if one would feel The pain that's joseph mingle a I mean, that's the guy that then in south america was helping um Argentinians have abortions and he set up. Um, have you seen the movie colonia? about colonia dignidad which is That if you're listening right now almost warn you not to google it because it is it was a torture camp That was started by joseph shafer a nazi and joseph mangale the the doctor of death that escaped Trial in nuremberg and made it um on the behest of perone into argentina. He set up the hospital At colonia dignidad, which was another safe. How safe haven for more nazis in south america Um go to my air and david and ben gurion the presidents of israel. Um, they They took the gloves off and they were just sending assassins to try to find these people and kill them Um, but what you got in south america were isolated German only communities you could go into baroloche argentina and you know, i'd be like, what else do you have amigos and they're like Guten morgan i'm like, oh Yeah, I mean I mean good morning. Yeah, sorry. It's 2017, right? I thought we spoke spanish. So In 2017 you were there and they were speaking german. Yeah. Whoa Well, i'm I don't look very I might look more european than I do so is just them seeing me walking down the street and be like Wow, yeah, and there's tons of communities. I mean if you go to colonia dignidad, which is now called via bavaria the Bavarian village it is uh only german In the center of chili in the mountains of chili like you there's no spanish being being spoken there. It is exclusively German and these are descendants of nazis Powerful nazis. Holy shit, and this is going on right now. Yeah Yeah, and what are these communities like? I mean, what's their ideology are they I mean, they're pretty white. Yeah, but are they like I mean are they do they espouse nazi values or not openly so colonia dignidad, uh If you look at the second generation there's a bunch of so It was a huge Problem for chili that they tried to hide for years and they they got so much power From the torturing that they did at colonia dignidad on a whole bunch of other high ranking south american dictators That they are almost untouchable and this this is I mean you you'd blow your mind if you look into this show You'd you'd love it. But um The second generation the kids like the grandkids sometimes they're even more fanatical than the original generation. Have you ever seen this? Where like if somebody's away from like when you travel abroad Man, it's so cool to like to get into the culture and get into the food and get into the like you're dancing the this style And you're you love the flag and you're like, oh i'm gonna go to a soccer game because we don't go to soccer games in america And then i'm gonna go but then maybe after like two months you kind of miss home you know and then like a year Like you really miss home and then 10 years like you really Really miss home and you see the same thing in the united states where it's not really a perfect assimilation It's not the milting pot where you see generations that are espousing to be more like their ethnic heritage than they are american You know, they're flying the irish flag and like i'm irish um What's just times a thousand with these communities because they're exclusively german? Yeah, it's pretty cool kind of weird. So Exclusively german and really missing home Yeah Yeah, so 70 years later the second generations I was talking about um, some of them came to the united states and were High-ranking white supremacists that are now in jail in prison for their racial crimes And they came out of south america. They came out of colonial dignidad. They came out of baroloche. They came out of Port of uh, they came out of misiones. They came out of yeah Wow Crazy, so that's the show hunting hitler fucking a man to strip how many people are we talking about all told in south america? That can come out of this I mean tens of thousands went there but how many german communities and what how big are they and we maybe have 50 german communities 50 How many people if you had a guess a few hundred thousand, holy shit a few hundred thousand descendants of nazis. Yeah. Wow Yeah, and man, it's weird when you walk into somebody's parlor and It's like you're stepping back in time into europe Like i'm walking in it's it's 2017 and i'm walking in buenas aris, argentina into somebody's parlor and all of the tile Is european and all the style and all the art is very german, you know We have like deers and you know, not Not like red stags. We're talking german everything things that hiller Loved and that's the style that's everything and then they come out and like with white gloves. They're holding their grandpa their grandfather's Memory box and inside of it are his war medals from You know when he was in the ss or when he was and it is the respect the I don't even know the right reference. Yeah, I mean it's like whole like it's the like This is a gift from the pope that they're holding their hands white gloves. No, I can't first of all tim Can't touch it. That's but I can appreciate it And then they tell me the story of every single one of these things and how he got there And how he then went and worked for the buenas aris news. You can't touch anything. No, they wouldn't know because I come You're dirty. I'm dirty dirty american. Look at these. This is too brown. Yeah Fuck man So we followed the first two seasons. It was really just Unraveling the rumors of what happened to hitler. The third season was my favorite because I actually got to do real work. They said, okay I got the second season. I got to bring in more special forces guys. Um, uh cia Targeter nadia, um who helped my unit kill zarkawi in 2006 That this is the team that is now looking at real evidence trying to figure out. Okay How did we find ben laden? How did we find zakar zarkawi? We looked at their associates and we looked at how they moved we looked at how they communicated We looked at what routes they were using to get to and from places and then we just started tightening the noose And that's exactly what we did in this third season was okay. Let's start following the adoff icements Let's start following the joseph mangolais and let's start following the scorsenskis um Hitler's personal bodyguard that was a colonel in the ss that went on to work for Everybody after the war fighting. I mean Fascists do not like communists. So this guy was working for everybody to include the cia Fighting fascism in south america or fighting communism as a fascist in south america in the 50s 60s and 70s Creepy stuff. Whoa Yeah So so hunting hitler are there any legitimate? I witness accounts of hitler in south america or are potentially legitimate Absolutely potentially. Whoa. Yep I witness accounts. I saw him get off a boat. I saw him meet here and If it was just some person saying it It's almost meaningless, right? But if you look at the context of who this person is the wealth that they have that they shouldn't have Like can can you explain how you got so rich in two generations? You know like okay, your grandpa got here from germany in 1946. That's weird um And he he he's on a legitimate visa with an argentinian passport also weird Um, and now he's a war refugee. That's now worth millions of dollars How does this how does this work? so But people and then this is the hard part people want to be connected to significant events And especially in small rural areas of the world Um developing areas like they want they're so nothing. There's so little happening They want to be attached to something massive and like the fact that they saw a u-boat land on this beach And the pot the hatch opened and you know This these cars were sitting there and they're doing morris code and this guy gets off and he had this little mustache like Well for but you boats can't beach. That's not how that works, you know, and and But you know what they're trying to do. They just want to be connected Yeah, so and now we're removed 70 to 80 years from the facts. It has been painful to try to use Real science real investigative tools to try to sift through This lore You know, what do you think happened? I mean you've been you've been studying this for how long now three years three years Yeah, if you had a guess if you had like a million bucks, you got to put it on one side or another did he go there? Yeah, whoa I would say Man, it's it's in that that's the first time i've ever said it flat out like that. What what I want to say is The way history is written is wrong That that's that's clear there's no way that we can say he died on this day This is what happened. Here is his body and that's what the physical proof is for sure the woman That that head yeah, they were saying was hitler is definitely not hitler. It was absolutely not. That's a fact So they don't have hitler's body. So then our other option was k is it ever bombs? Did they just grab the wrong body right? So there are still descendants of Of ava and we try to have them Allow us to do it. Then we try to go through like And they can get dna off of the skull. Yeah, there's meat on it. No, it's it's like tooth, yeah and But they wouldn't consent to it. So then we try to do you know, like where people have like the the tree their ethic tree What is those websites called? 23andme? Yeah, there's like a bunch of them We try to go that route but um They wouldn't consent to it. No the ava bronze family. They just want it gone They just don't want to yeah, they're super pissed that we even found them. I'm sure which was hard, which was really hard Just hold them down. Get them to spit in a bucket. Yeah The uh, I know I got I mean or pull their trash and pull stuff out of there. No, I would totally not do that. Definitely not do that um but I mean, that's how they caught the golden state killer right was off a cigarette. Yeah They got dna off a cigarette, but so history's wrong Wow for it to be black and white like that and fuck man. And if and again, if you go back to 1945 Um, we needed scientists We needed every single german electrical engineer mechanical engineer Aerospace anything you're on the vq program you you know any we want all of you because now it's a race It's a race. We have the bomb now. We need delivery systems now We need to get to the moon now. We need to you know, like all of those things are real time It's a war a war of dollars and a war of science and um We got all those scientists. Yeah, the russians didn't well, they got some so not very many operation paperclip was what what brought over the What werner von brawn who was when you talk to jews that were in berlin During the time that werner von brawn was running his rocket program there. He would hang the five slowest jews In front of the rocket factory in berlin just to give everybody motivation to work harder Yeah, it's a simon weisz and thall center said that if werner von brawn was alive today that would prosecute him for crimes against humanity He was a nazi Straight up nazi and people there's apologists that say no, no, no. He was a scientist. He was forced into doing that like that's like, okay He's a nazi. Yeah, there's photographs of him wearing nazi garb hanging out with nazis He his rocket factory killed jews like this is these are all undeniable facts It's like the war ends and they're not nazi anymore. That's not how that works exactly But they were they were forgiven because they came over and contributed to our rocket program I'm not that i'm not that good of a human. I don't have that in me. I don't have that like, okay It's you're forgiven