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Boyan Slat is an inventor, entrepreneur and former aerospace engineering student. He is the founder of The Ocean Cleanup organization: https://www.theoceancleanup.com/
Some things just take a lot of time to get used to and other things, once it's there you're kind of used to it in a second. For example, earlier this week I was driving a Tesla on autopilot and I was driving it for five minutes and then already you're kind of doing your emails and then when you take it off it just feels like you're back in the stone ages and you're just kind of have to drive this yourself, it's so weird. So you do your email while you're driving, you're not even paying attention to the machine to make sure that doesn't hit some homeless lady who steps out off the median? Yeah, I appreciate it. Like that one thing that did happen. Yeah, with the overcar. Yeah, I think things like this will come up more rapidly than people think and I think people will be very quickly that we're used to it. But you're supposed to look at the road, right? Not supposed to be staring down at your laptop. Yeah, okay. Just erase everything I said for the past minute or so. Have you ever seen the video of the guy that's falling asleep in San Francisco traffic? No. He's completely asleep. He's behind the wheel of Tesla like this and the car is slowing and going with the pace of traffic. Okay. It's really fascinating because this happens so quickly. I remember a buddy of mine got a Tesla a couple years ago and he's like, dude, I let my hands off the wheel on the highway. I'm like, really? Like that's happening already? But it's not just happening. Like people plug into their navigate here. This guy, look at him. This guy is stone dead asleep in his Tesla in bumper to bumper San Francisco traffic and the car is performing flawlessly. And I heard there was this Dutch guy actually just went to the back of his, like on the back seat and started changing his clothes. And oh, God. Yeah. And then apparently they now include the safety feature that you kind of have to touch the wheel every minute or so. Oh, that's a new thing. Yeah. Yeah. And BMW, I believe, has a similar system, but you have to have your hand on the wheel at all times. Yeah. It's probably better until it's flawless. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would imagine. Yeah. People probably doing all kinds of freaky shit in their cars while this thing is on autopilot. It's really quite amazing how, I mean, you're just about to show a video of Tesla autopilot crash compilations. It's saving people from crashes is what it's a compilation. Oh, I'm sure it does. What's unbelievable is how few crashes there are. And they said there have been two fatalities so far. Okay. How many fatalities per capita versus non-autopilot cars? Yeah. I mean, I would imagine it's far less. Yeah. Obviously, these cars are also just safer in general. So they're much safer than, I don't know, a 1990s Toyota Corolla or something. So in terms of the way the construction. Yeah, just safer when they crash. So I don't know how they compare the statistics. But yeah, I'm very impressed too. It was fun trying it out. Yeah, I'm impressed and I'm very hopeful. My friend Matt Farah was on last week and he's a car expert. And they've actually started an organization to save human driving. They're literally going to be like lobbyists to stop laws. He doesn't get banned, right? Yeah. Well, that's the concern is that one day they're going to say you cannot drive your own car. And they're really worried that the was the name of his organization. Do you remember? Okay. But the, you know, they're very serious. He's like, it's going to happen quicker than you think you're going. It's going to be very difficult to drive your own car and then it's going to be illegal. Yeah. Maybe they should keep areas like the highway one or something like that. It's just something, some freaky road where people can get crazy. Look at me, man. I'm steering. I'm hitting my own brakes. Yeah. I mean, again, these are things that it's most likely inevitable. I mean, this technology, the way it's progressing, it's going to be safer. It's going to be healthier, lower emissions, all these variables that are going to come into play where people are going to say, no, there's just, there's the benefit of driving your own car is not worth the detriment to society. Yeah. And next to that, just if you think about the normal rate of converting the entire car fleet to electric, it would be around 20 years because that's sort of how long cars last. And you only produce a few hundred million cars a year and there's billions of cars. So, you know, if you don't want that to take 20 years, well, I think autonomy then really has to come into play because if you have autonomous cars, you need much less cars out there than you would if they, you would have to drive themselves because obviously cars are just driving maybe 3% of their time. There it is. At the time they're just being parked so they can drive themselves. I think the utilization of the number of cars would be much higher. And I think that whole transition to electric cars would happen much faster. The human driving association, a human driving association is what it is here. Pull it, pull it back up again so you can look at it. Yeah. The war on driving is here. A little paranoid. They're a little paranoid, but you got to remember Matt Farah is an automotive journalist. So his, his livelihood depends on talking about cars and he's a real legitimate car. Not what is this wrong answer? What is that? Pick the electric car. Oh, you clicked it. It's the wrong answer. Oh, you go there, it takes you to the shop. Well, why is this? It would be a shame. It's just a joke. Oh, I get it. That's just a joke. Why would it be the wrong answer? It's just an answer. Do you drive? I do, yeah. Do you drive an electric car or a regular car? Actually, I don't have a car. You don't? No, and how long do you don't really need cars? You just have a bike. But it's fucking freezing there. Yeah. You have a coat. You just put a coat on and just drive? Yeah. Wow. Okay. Hardcore. Listen, I'm a big fan of Holland because I kickbox. So you guys have some of the greatest kickboxers of all time. Yeah. Came from this one small place. It's very unusual.