Joe Rogan Reacts to Dan Bilzerian Feeding a Bear

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Phil Demers

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Phil Demers is a former professional marine mammal trainer and subject of the new documentary "The Walrus and the Whistleblower".

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Let me touch on the Dan Bilzerian thing. Is he coming here in May? Is that right? On the podcast? Not that I know of. Okay. Someone had said to me, Oh, oh, I hear Dan Bilzerian is going to be on the podcast. He's been on before though. Yeah, I know that he has. I thought that he was coming out soon. That kind of made me nervous. Cause, uh, so a couple of weeks ago, Whitney's like just, just drilling, uh, Dan Bilzerian on Instagram for having this polar bear, right? There's a video of a polar bear at a fucking party and he's feeding it. She's just, she's a polar bear to party. Oh no, it was like a big, it was a big brown bear, like grizzly. It was a big grizzly bear. Really? Yeah. On a, you know, electric fence around and everything else. So she's probably one of his crazy house. Yeah. He had a, oh Jesus, Dan Bilzerian. What the fuck, bro. Oh my God. He had a fucking brown bear at his house. Look at the size of that thing. Oh my God. I'm getting anxiety. Did he ever see the fucking, what was the, yeah, what was the, yeah, the one where the bear ripped the guy's throat apart. That was one in a movie too, wasn't it? No, the bear was in a movie. The bear was in a football movie. What was that movie? Basketball on the, uh, with, was it basketball? I think he was been in a few movies, but with, uh, Will Ferrell, where they just play basketball and he like wrestled them in the middle of the basketball game. Was that the bear? Yeah, I think so. Well, there was a bear that had been in movies and had done stunts and movies. And this guy, the video was awful because the guy is literally just standing there and the bear just goes up to him and just decided to attack it or rips his throat out. Like that in a second. It's exactly that video minus the, this can happen at any freaking time. Only you got 45 girls in the back scantily clad easily could have happened. And what's really crazy is that that bear that killed that guy, they went back to training them. They're not going to kill an animal that has value. It's the same as the orca that killed all the trainers. Like they're not going to kill him. It's just not going to happen. But they were trying to like figure out whether or not he was going to do it again. Like Jesus Christ. What do you have? Soothsayer. How are you going to figure out what a bear is going to do? It's going to be a bear asshole. But there's going to be better stuff. The people that are bringing that, that are trying to have you interact with these animals like that, they're, they're, they're, they're relying on the animals shock factor, the shock and awe, you know, they're bringing these animals in the close proximity to scare you. That's a fucked up thing, man. That's the bear right there. Look at that. See that guy's throat apart. So so horrific. So back to the Whitney thing. So Whitney's just, just harping on Dan Bill's energy. He's deleting the comments as quick as she's tossing them. So I decide, okay, well I'm going to weigh in now, right? So I throw a comment in and I forget about it. I turned the, I go off, do my thing. And then that night I'm on the Phil DeFranco show, not me personally, but he actually takes the comment because they know it's got a lot of likes and stuff. I said something to the effect of, uh, you know, that's an abused animal, blah, blah, blah, this and that, it said something like, you know, smoke more weed. Anyways, they put the comment up. Oh, by the way, the guy who handles the animal, he was sort of, he was using some legal, uh, sort of jargon with me as if he maybe was talking about lawsuit and I said, fuck it, sue me. Legal jargon. He went right into the guy who trained the famitory because I said that's a starved, abused, uh, animal. I mean, I know how to, I know how in the history of wild animals, when does a bear ever walked out and said, Hey, I'm going to become fuck friends with someone today. You know, fuck this. Well, they start them out when they're a little cubs, you know that of course. So they starve them, they abuse them. They have them. I mean, but do they have to do that to train them? I know there are people who claim to love bears that train bears to take care of bears. And I guarantee you they don't all do that. It says big no, no, there's nothing fun about abusing a drug starved animal. Delete this and your pension for animal exploitation, smoke more weed. I don't know if smoke more weed is like going to help that, but it wasn't a chirp though. It went the way, uh, uh, Phil DeFranco said, it was like, I was like, smoke more weed. You fool. I was just like, no, no, smoke more weed. Like go inside. Okay. Got it. You know, it wasn't a chirp. Yeah. It see, I feel like there are people that have bears that raise them. I'm not in any way, shape or form endorsing keeping bears in captivity. But what I see is people that have these sort of intimate relationships with these really well-fed bears. They're big and happy and they feed them and they get in the pool with them. And it looks ridiculous, but I don't think they're starving that bear. And I don't think they're abusing that bear. And I don't think you have to do that. I don't think you could automatically assume that a bear is starved and abused. So I assume the starved part, I certainly can't say. But it's a big bear. That was a fat bear. Nice feeding it. It might be hungry that day. I mean, it's more tame. But look at the body on the bear. Oh, big, not amazing. That's a well-fed bear. You can have a well-fed animal that's hungry for a week. There's no question about that. But it's not likely that that thing's starved. And my definition of abuse is there's an electric fence around that fucking thing. Which is there? Yeah. You can see it at about the ankle. At about ankle. There's a fucking electric fence at Dandel's Frans house. Well, I'm sure whoever's- Go back to that picture. I'm sure whatever installation the person who brought this thing does has to keep the animal within the confines of sorts. Oh my God. Can't just outright do that. Could you imagine if it just went on a model killing rampage? Like that's an electric fence. I, that's again, an assumption I'll say, but again, I don't see how that wouldn't be. What the hell does that serve as a barrier? It's just a trip line. Otherwise for- Dude, that is so- That's a well-fed bear though, son. Look at that thing. That motherfucker eats. That is a big ass fat bear. If you want to get an animal to do something, if you want it to be docile, you have to train it, you have to sort of, there's breaking the animal in many cases, but I'll assure you, Joe, that food deprivation is in training is your most effective tool. It just is. You can find a healthy balance, right? But food deprivation is number one. You've talked about this particularly with dolphins. To be fair, in my experience of wild animals, it is with marine mammals. So not worked with bears. There are bears at Marine Land. It's a really, it's a disgusting display. It's archaic. It looks like it's out of the 1800s even. I mean, it really is a disgusting place. Uh, but the practice was to starve them. And what people do there is they pay like, I think it's a buck and they get like this, this little cup full of corn pops and you, the bears are like waving. Yeah. Historically there's been bears. I mean, he's got, they've got like 40 or 50 bears in this little confined space. I mean, there's nothing, there's no more, no greater abomination of nature than I can imagine than a solitary, largely solitary animal sort of confined to a bunch of them of the species. And then historically they have ripped each other apart in the, oh, dude, it's crazy. I can actually delve into Marine Land's history deeper than I can. Uh, you get to hear the full spectrum of some of the things that happened and bear in mind, and it's important to note, it was a different time. Different times, different things happen. And that's just, that was the, that was the, that was the norm. It's, it's, you know, starkly contrasting time to when Marine Land started. So, but the stories are like really, um, it's jaw dropping. It's really jaw dropping stuff, but.