Joe Rogan on YouTube Censorship, Google Having a Black list

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James Damore

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James Damore is a former Google Senior software engineer, who was recently fired by Google after an internal memo he wrote about its diversity policies was leaked online.

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Hello, freak bitches, of why we behave the way we do, why we have the problems that we have. Yeah, and part of the issue though is if someone controls access to information and they want a certain narrative to be told, then it'll really color what people see. And that's what's scary. We see this a lot in YouTube now, where they're demonetizing anyone that they see as right wing, and even censoring and removing videos. It's really scary. It is, yeah. It's fascinating. It's quite fascinating to watch it all play out and to have them do it right in front of everybody's face, and everybody goes, what are you doing? You're changing narratives. You're altering information. And they feel like they are right. They're doing the right thing. They're promoting diversity. They're promoting liberal values and progressive ideas. They think they're doing the right thing. I don't necessarily think they're right though. Yeah. There's a lot of blowback though. It's not a free ride for Google right now with what they've done to you. I'm sure they're doubling down because they don't want to admit that they're fucked up. If they admit they're fucked up, everybody across the board loses that year-end bonus. It becomes a real issue, right? Everybody gets fired. If you look at it long term over the long run, they have definitely taken a hit. If someone forces them to sit down, I would love to sit down with the guy who said that you promote harmful gender stereotypes and go, let's go over this thing step by step. You tell me what's wrong and just pick them apart. That's what I've always wanted. He'll fall apart 100%. He'll just say a bunch of stupid social justice warrior bullshit. If you just keep them in a room for three hours with a microphone, it's going to look like a fucking idiot. There's just no way around it. There's no way around it if you're actually going off of what you wrote to somehow or another. I think it's very, not just dangerous to say it promotes harmful gender stereotypes, it's disingenuous. The reason why it's dangerous is because I could just read what that guy said and I would think that you're a creep and that's dangerous to you. It's dangerous towards the marketplace of free ideas. The marketplace of ideas is extremely important. I would think that if anybody would know that, it would be the people that are involved in tech. You would think so. Yeah. They're just so wrapped up, just so wrapped up in the progressive mindset. It's weird, man. It's so related to all this microaggression, speeches, violence, and all ideas are harmful. Of course, some ideas are harmful, but it's only through openly discussing them can you actually dispel some of these things by making them forbidden knowledge that's only going to attract certain people. We even see this now where some of the YouTube videos that are in this purgatory type state where you can't really get to them, but if you know the URL, you can still find them. People are getting aggregated lists of those and actually viewing them. Oh, this is what YouTube doesn't want us to see. Maybe there's some truth to it. Why don't they want to see it? If you win a certain amount of money, are you willing to buy a gold-plated Ferrari and drive around with a fur coat? Because I think they'll do shit. You got some big ass crazy sunglasses. Why don't you think you can win? I don't really know. I mean, I'm trying to ... I mean, what I would ideally want is somehow changing their policies, but I don't really know how I as an individual can compel Google to do something like that. I think at least some of the stuff like the blacklisting where they have these people that compile these spreadsheets of names of people that are conservative or even libertarian and oh, we're not going to work with them. We're going to sabotage their work and we're going to try to get them fired. When they are looking for another job, we're going to share this list so they can't get hired from any of the other major companies. That needs to- So that's real. Yeah, that's real. How do you know that that's real? Yeah, so there have been multiple people that have admitted to having a blacklist. Wow. Libertarian. Not even conservative, not even right wing, but smaller government, libertarian. Yeah, just because it's generally free thinking people and not telling the party line. Those people get blacklisted. Really? Yeah. There's an actual list somewhere? Have you seen an actual list? I haven't seen an individual list. I think there's multiple lists spread out, but people, even high up managers have admitted to having a blacklist. We've brought this up to the highest people at Google and they've just completely dismissed it. We're not going to deal with it. Do you feel like they feel that they have some sort of a social responsibility to push progressive values because they're in this massive position of influence and they feel like that's the right way to think, so they're going to go full steam ahead. Yeah. Like that. Don't be evil. Don't be conservative. Pretty much. Yeah. The libertarian man. Boy. It's a fucking tough sell to say that Gary Johnson's evil. I don't know. It's really hard to understand that mindset. Yeah. Well, I get it though because I think it's a lot of the same things along the same lines that you were talking about when you were saying that you didn't ... Maybe you would have waited until you got your year end bonus. You're a guy who's also frugal. You've saved your money and you don't have a family support and you're okay. You got fired and you're still okay. Whereas some people would be fucked right now. Maybe they'd be overextended. Maybe they have that gold Ferrari in the fur coat and like shit. Yeah. I mean, if I had a mortgage or something, that'd be really scary. That's where it gets scary. That's a lot of people's decision making. That goes back to engineering civilization and the early days of Rome. I think there was writings about that, about getting people to commit to families and it's easier to control them when they have loved ones and things that they enjoy and positions of power and status, that it's easier to get those people to give into your needs and desires. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense, right? I mean, it's just engineering a civilization. It's one of the ... Getting people to perform and behave the way that you would like them to is a critical component of engineering any sort of a civilization. Google's essentially a civilization. If you look at it that way, I mean, internally, there's a community. It's a structure. They're engineering that structure to be very much a like-minded ideological echo chamber.