Joe Rogan On What’s Really Depressing About a Wolf Sanctuary

I went to a wolf sanctuary this past weekend. Not this past weekend. What's today? I went Friday. Yeah, Friday. Yeah. Is that nearby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's depressing. Oh, really? Well, they all are abused, but being rehabilitated or something? No, no, they're not abused, but they're contained. And that's what's depressing. It's like most of them came from people wanting a wolf from a pet. For a pet. They're like, oh, I'm going to have a wolf. I'll be a badass. And then it just rips your house apart and doesn't listen to you at all. And you go, oh, my God, this isn't a dog. Yeah, yeah. The fucking wolves. Yeah, like it started off so well when you're a puppy. Some of them are so big. Yeah. But to me, what was depressing was, first of all, they neuter them when they get in there. They kind of have to because they don't want them to breed because then they'll create more of the same situation. But then the other thing is that they're in this pen and then they don't get to be free. So it's not like a big area? The pen they were in is not as big as a studio. It's not that big for a fucking wolf. Yeah. I mean, wolves want to run and hunt. That's what they want to do. They want to hunt. So they never re-released them into the wild or anything. No, I mean, that's listen to this, though. Listen to them howl. That's when we're leaving. We're leaving there a howling. They want you to come back. Well, we went into the pens. See how little the pens are, though? Yeah, we went into the pens and pet them. Like these people, they are amazing and they're doing an amazing job. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. I mean, they're keeping these animals alive and they're feeding them and they do love them and they go in there and take care of them and pet them. But to me, it's like, that's a fucking wolf. That wolf should be on a mountain somewhere. It should be chasing down a deer. It shouldn't be living like that. It's so pretty, man. They're beautiful. It just, it just bummed me out. Yeah. It made me feel like I went to a prison. Yeah. You know? Like these are incredible animals and they're, the only way they can keep them is to, that's Forrest Gullant, who's a wildlife biologist who's been on the podcast for, I'm getting kissed right there by a wolf. They're very sweet. Like you can, some of them, you could pet and hug them and hang on to them and they like you. Like they're like people, but they're fucking wolves. Like you're not telling them shit. Like there's no sit, lie down, fuck you. Like they're wolves. That's good that they have somewhere to, I don't know. I guess rescue them from like, people who would have just like put them down themselves. And that is a lot of what they did. They did keep a lot of them from being put down, but I left there feeling really depressed. Isn't that how that, I forget what his name is, but he has a huge Instagram and he has like all the big cats. Oh yeah. Fuck. What is his name? What is it called? Yeah, I can't think of it, but it's like something, cat something, big cat something. I probably doesn't even say that, but that's what I'm like, ooh, big cat videos. But yeah, the guy goes in and he like cuddles with them. And it's always like someone who had a pet tiger who was like, this is going to be cool. And it wasn't. It's mostly people in Texas. Yeah, I bet. More tigers in captivity in Texas in people's backyards and there aren't all the wild of the world. What? Are there like no laws or something with like animals? Fuck you on draft, go get yourself a draft. Oh my God. You just have a tiger. That might be fun. Get a giraffe. I feel like a giraffe would be more chill of like staying in like a, so chill. Yeah. Well, they're so chill. I used to have a bit about them. Like they're the only animals that I don't feel bad for at the zoo because they're walking around the zoo like another day with no lions. Yeah, exactly. And they just wandering around. Oh, lions majestic. Is that a random account? I was trying to find this out. Yeah, no, that's not it. But oh no, it's called black jaguar. Yeah, black jaguar or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. But yeah, it's a lot like that. Black jaguar or something. It's not. Black jaguar or white tiger. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. I'm not sure where it is, but yeah. Yeah, that's it. Black jaguar, white tiger. Yeah, he's just cuddling tigers and shit. What? Oh, he's in Mexico. We rescued animals born and sold in Mexico from horrible circumstances. The most depressing shit I ever saw for sure was a tiger sanctuary in Thailand. It was so depressing, because they were all drugged. Because you could take a picture with a tiger. The tiger's landing like this. Yeah. Like just like a drug prostitute in a room. Yeah, oh poor thing. And people like smiling and taking pictures. And then I said, I am not going in that fucking cage. I'm not taking part of it. Like we thought it was just a tiger sanctuary. You rescue tigers, you go look at tigers. I'm like, be cool for my kids to see some tigers. But then we got there, I'm like, oh no, these people are getting. And there's a difference because like, they have little cubs. And so you go in a room, there's a pen. And these little cubs, they're tiny. They're only a couple of weeks old, or you know, four or five weeks old. Whatever it is, they could be around people, six weeks old. And you could play with them. But they're super energetic. They're jumping on you and they're swatting things. They're playing with each other and rolling around. And then as they get older, it gets to a year or two. And then they stop being natural. Then they're all drugged. So you could be around the littler tigers, and there's a bunch of handlers around and everybody's real nervous. They keep the tigers away from you. And the tigers, they're looking at you, but they're there. But they're only like a year old. Then you get to the full grown tigers and they're just fucked up. They're all drugged. They're all drugged. That's crazy. And I guess that's like, that's like my brain never thought of like, oh yeah, they must be drugged in order to be sitting in a room with strangers and not freaking out. You could go there, you could tell. But yeah, that makes so much sense. If you go into that room and the cage rather and see the tigers, you know right away they're drugged. Because they're just laying there like this. Yeah, yeah. And that's a nice thing with that black jaguar tiger guy. You always see the tigers are playing with them. They're swatting them around like the kittens he was talking about. And you can see their claws are retracted. So they actually like the guy. But they're just having fun. Yeah, they could tear him apart at any point but they're still like nibbling on him and stuff. This is like, dude that guy is crazy. He's like the big cat Steve Irwin I guess. Yeah, he's nuts. There's a few of those guys. There's a guy in Texas that does that. No kidding. Another one in Texas. But he's got a tiger rehabilitation place. It's the same kind of deal. Like wrestles with these tigers and plays with them and shit and you're like, ooh, this is not gonna end well. Bro, did you watch Siegfried and Roy? A lot of times they just decide to go tiger on you. Oh my god. That's a wrap. Yeah, and then it's like, bye tiger. Put things. The wolf thing was a real bummer. I didn't think it was gonna bum me out as much. But it bummed me out. I mean, I'm happy that those people are doing it. And then I think what they're doing is amazing. Don't get me wrong. But for me, just the feeling of being around that thing, like, oh, that thing wants to run.